Strange Stories You Won't Believe Are True

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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Welcome, everyone.
Coming to you directly from theluxurious OLR Studios, this is
Templeton.
Where is Las Vegas?

SPEAKER_02 (00:10):
This is Sweet Baby Jay.
Can I see what you just saidwritten on paper?

SPEAKER_01 (00:15):
This is Melina.
It is the biggest spider I'veever seen in my life.

SPEAKER_00 (00:18):
This is Grizz.

SPEAKER_03 (00:20):
After this, I'm going to get off here and I'm
going to drag in them balls.

SPEAKER_00 (00:23):
This is the Arrogant Yeti.
At least I know two plus two isfive.
And this is the FMJ Podcast.

SPEAKER_02 (00:36):
Welcome back to Two Broke Guys and a Microphone.
We've returned.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,wait, wait.
Two broke guys and a microphone!Let's go! Okay.
So, just like last time, thereis moi, Jay, and there is...

(01:03):
What's the opposite of moi?
How do you say you?

SPEAKER_01 (01:08):
Toi.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14):
Moi.
Toi.
I like it.
So it's just me and Gris today.
Yeti is a new father.
Hang on, wait.

SPEAKER_03 (01:29):
We're

SPEAKER_02 (01:32):
all excited.
We are very excited.
Hang on.
Round of applause for getting inthere, doing your thing, and
winning a trophy.
Lifetime trophy.
Lifetime trophy, that's forsure.
Lifetime trophy.
But no, we are excited for Yeti.

(01:52):
If you get an opportunity, ifyou're following him or anything
like that, please make sure tocongratulate our boy.
Because he deserves it.
Templeton, I believe, has hisother children...
Something or another.

(02:14):
I don't know.
Melina.
I don't know.
I don't know where she is.
Doing

SPEAKER_03 (02:21):
Melina

SPEAKER_02 (02:21):
things.
Doing Melina things.
Just whatevs.
Grizz, however.

SPEAKER_03 (02:27):
That's right.

SPEAKER_02 (02:29):
What's your pulse look like?

SPEAKER_03 (02:33):
We pulsing.
We pulsing.
At dawn, we pulse.

SPEAKER_02 (02:39):
What's that mean?
I

SPEAKER_03 (02:41):
don't know.
Hey, chat, what's that mean?

SPEAKER_02 (02:45):
Yeah, hey, chat.
What does that mean?
At dawn, we pulse.
Like, what's pulsing?
Is it like gyrating?

SPEAKER_03 (02:53):
Wait, is that what the Mormons are doing?
No, that's something else.
Soaking.
Anyway, I digress.
I'll say it.
I'll say it with

SPEAKER_01 (03:04):
my chest.
Soak it!

SPEAKER_03 (03:08):
Hell yeah, brother.
Yeah, I mean, I'm doing good.
I worked a long shift todaybecause the guy that was
supposed to replace me hasn'tshowed up yet.
I hope he's there, but I left.

SPEAKER_02 (03:22):
Wait, what?

SPEAKER_03 (03:24):
Yeah, so the hotel I work part-time at...
Someone was supposed to come inat 4 o'clock And he didn't show
up I was supposed to leave at3.30 But I stayed until 4
Because he was supposed to bethere He was scheduled for 4 But
because I was scheduled for 3.30And we got busy I was like I'll

(03:47):
stay until he gets here Well atlike 3.50 I was like where's
this guy at And then at 4 I waslike

SPEAKER_02 (03:54):
I'm out Deuces

SPEAKER_03 (03:57):
i ended up staying a little later than that but then
i i was like i gotta go like igotta get stepping so i got up
out of there i got you i pickedup one of the picked up one of
the lime vessels hey we gotthese new ones they're called
gliders it's basically a bikewith no pedals okay it's 100 ev

(04:18):
bicycle with zero pedaling umthey sound like a Star Wars
racer pod.
The electric motor is loud

SPEAKER_02 (04:31):
on

SPEAKER_03 (04:31):
these puppies.
I think so.
For an electric vehicle, I canhear it.
Anyway, they're fun to ride.
I hopped on one of those to gethome.
Fed the animals.
Came down here.
And yeah, we're just doing thething, man.
That's cool.
That's cool.
No big highlights that I canthink of off the top of my head.

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Okay.
I'm sure like two hours fromnow, but oh, fuck, I should have
said.

SPEAKER_02 (04:59):
Isn't that usually how it works?
Like, show's done, and he'slike, fuck, I forgot to mention
XYZ.

SPEAKER_03 (05:08):
You know what?
I do have one little thing.
TT thing.

SPEAKER_02 (05:13):
Let's hear it.

SPEAKER_03 (05:14):
Yesterday, I went on an adventure.
I live right on a bus line, andit's convenient because it goes
down towards all the touristshit.
It doesn't get all the way tothe tourist shit, but it gets
close enough that I can just hopoff and walk down.
But in the opposite direction,I've never taken it all the way

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out.
I looked up the route.
It goes all the way down to thisplace called Madrona Park, and
it's Madrona Park slash beach.
And it sits right on the edge ofLake Washington.
OK.
And I brought my skateboard.
I brought my sketchbook, somesunscreen because, you know,

(05:55):
white boy.
And then I brought some jointsand a bottle of water.
And I was like, I'm gonna justgo and fuck off.
And that's what I did.
Sometimes you need that up anddown.
The lake, dude, it was muchneeded.
Yeah, that's dope.
It was just a good time, man.
I rode up and down the lake,found a place to eat.

(06:15):
But before I ate there, I wentback to the...
I found this nice little spot bythe lake, hung my feet over this
edge, and was just sitting thereand chilling, enjoying the
breeze, staring out the giantmountain in the sky.
It was just a good time.

SPEAKER_02 (06:31):
Yeah, that sounds nice.
It honestly does.
It

SPEAKER_03 (06:34):
was relaxing, for sure.

UNKNOWN (06:36):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (06:36):
I wish we had something like that here.
I mean, I guess we kind of do.
But we don't have the mountainrange to look at, right?
Like, you have

SPEAKER_03 (06:44):
that.
No, for sure.
And, like, you know, there's onething that maybe I would have
only come to this conclusionbecause I live out here.
But, like, going down to thewaterfront.
So I'm trapped here.
I got water on two sides of me.
Right.
I got Elliott Bay on one side,which is where like Pike Place

(07:05):
is and all the touristy stuff.
And then on the other side isLake Washington.
And then there's a smaller,like, I don't know if it's a
man-made, but it's called LakeUnion.
Okay.
And it's, it's at, it's, it'swhere a big river, oh, actually
a salmon run.
Ooh.
Um, So there's a river thatsalmon run, and they spawn, and

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then when those eggs hatch, theycome through the river, and then
they'll live in the lake for awhile before ultimately heading
out to the ocean.
I should look it up.
Cause I'm not convinced thatLake Union is natural, but I'm
also not convinced it's manmadebecause it could be natural.

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Um, it could be natural becauseit's at the end of a lake.
It's where a lake runs or I'msorry, a river runs into and it
kind of pulls up.

SPEAKER_02 (07:55):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (07:56):
And then, and then they kind of throttled it off
because there is a dam.
It's called the locks.
Damn it.
And so with the dam there, theycould have built this dam to
like make the river pull up.

SPEAKER_01 (08:07):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (08:07):
Uh, into a small lake.

SPEAKER_01 (08:09):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (08:10):
I'll look it up and then maybe next time, if I
remember, I'll talk about itagain.
But I had somewhere I was goingwith.
Oh, yeah.
So I got water on either sideand then the little the little
baby lake, Lake Union.
And I don't remember when I hadto stop, but it was fairly
recently.
I was just like down by thewater chilling.
OK.

(08:30):
And I was like, man.
Like, this is so nice.
I've never really lived by thewater.

SPEAKER_00 (08:36):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (08:37):
And then I was like, well, that's not a fair
assessment because I used tolive in Cincinnati.

SPEAKER_01 (08:41):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (08:41):
And that's right along the river.
It is.
But it's different because it'sriver water.
Yes.
Which is supposed to be freshwater, but with all the steel
industry up and down Ohio andPennsylvania.
Not so fresh.
Not so fresh.
Not so fresh.
It's supposed to be fresh water.
Fresh water.
Seattle, the sound.

(09:02):
you know, has saltwater in it.

SPEAKER_02 (09:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (09:05):
Well, the lake on one side is freshwater, but the
other, like the Elliott Bay,like that's saltwater.
Yep.
And like living in an area whereyou can smell the saltwater in
the air.
It's nice.
Like that's, that's a vibe.
Yes, it is.
I, and like, and then you stareoff into the distance as you
smoke your joint and you seethis mountain range of the
Olympics.
Yep.
Or you turn around and you seethe cascade range that runs into

(09:27):
Rainier and And I've just neverlived in an environment like
that.
And I'm just so appreciative.
And like, like I often will godown there and just like enjoy a
sunset.
And that's some shit I'd neverdid in Cincinnati.

SPEAKER_01 (09:40):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (09:41):
Um, and it's just, I don't know for anyone listening
and they're like, man, I don'thave anything to do.
just go watch the sunset, man.

SPEAKER_02 (09:49):
Honestly, it's

SPEAKER_03 (09:50):
amazing.
What?
Just chilling and watching asunset.
Or if you're in Cincinnati area,you could double down, go out to
the airport and go to one ofview parking lots, watch a
sunset and some planes take off.

SPEAKER_02 (10:02):
Yeah, that's, that is, it's really cool to do stuff
like that because I remembergrowing up on the West coast
when we grew up in California,we always had that.
We had that constant smell that,ocean air.
So it was, yes, it wasdifferent.
And then when we moved here,obviously, you know, the river,

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but...
That's totally

SPEAKER_03 (10:26):
different.
It's a thing, but like, it's, Idon't know, unless you're on the
river.

SPEAKER_02 (10:31):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (10:31):
Like sitting on the bank is not.

SPEAKER_02 (10:33):
It's not the same.
Yeah.
It's not the same.

SPEAKER_03 (10:35):
But if you're out on the water, different story.

SPEAKER_02 (10:38):
Well, yeah.
Cause that's where the fun is.
It's where everybody's boating,jet skiing and all that stuff.
So yeah, he's, he's not wrong.
If you get an opportunity, just,you know, enjoy that.
Like he said, take it in,appreciate it.
Yeah, watch a sunset.

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Because if you think about it,you only have so many sunsets to

SPEAKER_03 (11:06):
watch.
Don't think about it.
But if you do, he's not wrong.
But if you think about it, itcould get pretty sad pretty

SPEAKER_02 (11:16):
quick.
It can get pretty sad prettyquick.
But shouldn't that be the beautyof it all?
Because we don't get to see thatmany?
Like, okay, in our perspective,as far as time goes, it's a long
time, right?
Like, especially if you live afull, healthy, somewhat healthy

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life.
Get to, like, your 80s.
Like, 80 years is still kind oflong.
But in the grand scheme of itall, you don't see a lot of
sunsets.

SPEAKER_03 (11:49):
Yeah, I mean, that's 80 sunsets.

SPEAKER_02 (11:54):
80 sunsets.

SPEAKER_03 (11:55):
That's if you took advantage of

SPEAKER_02 (11:59):
everyone.
Yeah, no shit.
If you took advantage of everysingle one.
I mean, I don't know.
I don't know.
80 years worth of sunsets.
Not bad.
Not bad.
So go enjoy it.
Soak it in.
Soak it in.
Take it all in.
Soak it in.
Soak it in.

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Get your vitamin D.
That was for you, Utah.
That was for you.
Wait, hang on.
For the joke.
For the joke.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm just, like, chilling.
You know what I mean?
I've been very busy the last twoweeks.

SPEAKER_03 (12:44):
You're on dog duty, huh?

SPEAKER_02 (12:48):
Doing that and then running back and forth to
Evansville, Indiana and comingback here.
I'm trying to hire people there.
Get people ready to work there.
And it's like...
We don't.
That's the crazy part.
Nope.

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We've been in Evansville for...
like five or six years now.
And it's only been two people.
So two people with nosupervision.
And it's just, what could gowrong?

(13:31):
Like, I don't know.
I don't want to get too deepinto it because we've got so
many other things to talk about.
But yeah, I've just been very,very busy.
Running back and forth.
And then, of course, everythingthat's been going on.
And like you said, dog duty.
Actually, after this show, Ihave to go over there and make

(13:54):
sure the dogs haven't killedeach other.
Fair enough.
So, yeah, it's been hectic.
But overall, pretty good.
Still enjoying my Gran Turismo7.
Death Stranding 2.
Is that out?
It is.
Oh, okay, sick.
So the way I break it down, I domy daily workout on Gran Turismo

(14:23):
7, which is you got to drivelike 26 miles, 26.6 miles or
something like that.
Get that in and then do somephoto shoots.
Get used to that a little bitmore.
You've seen them.
You've seen them.
Yep, yep, yep.
Looking good.
Thank you.
Grazie, grazie.
And then after I'm done withthat, I switch over to Death

(14:43):
Stranding 2 if I have the timeand if I feel like it.
If I'm not super tired, I'llplay a few hours of Death
Stranding.
And it has been...
Because it's...
Buddy, the story is gettingreally good.

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The action is getting stupid.
It is like...
I'm loving it.
I'm, I'm, I'm really loving it.
So, um, yeah, that's pretty muchbeen it though.
Nothing, nothing too crazy, but,um, yeah.
So there you go.
That's what my pulse looks like.
Um, hell yeah.

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You know, you know what I'm inthe mood for?

SPEAKER_03 (15:27):
What's that?

SPEAKER_02 (15:29):
Entertainment news.
Hmm.
How about you?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (15:34):
You can use some.

SPEAKER_02 (15:35):
So, um, Remember we were kind of chit-chatting about
AI?

SPEAKER_03 (15:39):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (15:42):
It's a little weird that we've spoken about AI so
much on this channel.
Like, on this show, we havetalked about AI so much.
And I think it's because...
And not

SPEAKER_03 (15:59):
the basketball AI.

SPEAKER_02 (16:00):
No, not Allen Iverson.
He's not part of thisconversation.

SPEAKER_03 (16:04):
Which is a shame.

SPEAKER_02 (16:06):
For the joke.
It is a shame.
I want to talk about AllenIverson.
Words are hard.
They

SPEAKER_03 (16:16):
really are.
They be getting me sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 (16:18):
No, seriously, they do.
They do.
It's awful.
So AI, we've been talking aboutit a lot.
This is what I found out justlike earlier today.
You ready for it?

SPEAKER_03 (16:31):
Yep.

SPEAKER_02 (16:32):
AI is at it again.
At it again! Street Fighter 6had an art contest.
Yeah, so it's a new Challengeredition, and apparently they
caught the winner plagiarizingusing AI.

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Wow.

SPEAKER_03 (17:00):
Are we really surprised, though,

SPEAKER_02 (17:02):
at this point?
I mean, no, but...
How do they win?
That's

SPEAKER_03 (17:12):
an honest question.

SPEAKER_02 (17:15):
How do they win?
People, especially when I getonline and I'm reading comments,
shit like that, and there are somany people that are out there
that are like, how can you nottell that that's AI?
How can you not tell that?

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I mean, obviously it's gettinggood enough to, you

SPEAKER_03 (17:41):
know.
It's getting

SPEAKER_02 (17:42):
good.
Like it's getting good enough toput into a contest and win.

SPEAKER_03 (17:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (17:49):
So what are we doing?

SPEAKER_03 (17:55):
You know, I want to know who judged the contest.

SPEAKER_02 (17:58):
Yeah, that would be.

SPEAKER_03 (18:00):
Because I think that my eyes are still good enough.

SPEAKER_02 (18:05):
To know what's AI and what isn't.

SPEAKER_03 (18:08):
The AI?

SPEAKER_02 (18:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (18:10):
But I've seen videos on TikTok, the forbidden social
media platform, or InstagramReels, of videos of people's
grandmas, or even people ourparents' age, looking at these
videos, and the kids are like,Mom, you know that's fake, or

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Dad, you know that's not real,right?

UNKNOWN (18:33):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (18:34):
And they're like, it looks so real.
And I'm like, man.
So, like, how much more time domy eyes have?

SPEAKER_01 (18:46):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (18:47):
Before I can't suss it out.
I don't know.
I like to think it can't pullone over on me.

SPEAKER_02 (18:53):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (18:54):
Because me being an artist, I feel like I'm really
in tune to that shit.
Yeah.
But, like...
I don't know, man.
Maybe one day.

SPEAKER_02 (19:05):
Maybe one day.
Maybe one day.
That'll be

SPEAKER_03 (19:09):
the day that I punch out.

SPEAKER_02 (19:10):
Alright, that's it.
I'm out.
It's been fun.
No, but the story, this is thestory, says, from GoNintendo, by
the way, says, Capcom yanksWinning entry in Street Fighter

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Art Contest New ChallengerEdition.
Contest due to AI usage.

SPEAKER_03 (19:42):
Do we have a photo of it?

SPEAKER_02 (19:43):
So there is a photo.
There's at

SPEAKER_03 (19:48):
least one winning photo.

SPEAKER_02 (19:49):
There is one photo of it.
I'd have to find it, but I justhave the story.
We can look it up later.
That would probably be the bestidea, but Capcom was promoting
their art contest, obviously,and they did put it in the rules

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that you couldn't use AI oranything like that.
Now, apparently, the person thatentered that piece of work, had
just created their Instagramaccount maybe a week or two

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prior to that.
So you knew that they knew thatthey were going to do some dumb
shit.

SPEAKER_03 (20:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (20:42):
So if you know it's wrong, why do it?

SPEAKER_03 (20:53):
You know, sometimes I think I'm fully convinced that
people, even though they knowthey're doing something they
shouldn't, are just wired forsome reason to see what they can
get away with.
Okay.
How many times have we seen thisat the grocery store where

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there's a little kid with theirmom or their dad or both their
parents are with them?
Very rare.
Yeah.
and little kids doing somethingand the parents like little
johnny stop doing that and thenit just looks back and then
proceeds to do the thing youknow and you're just like you

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literally just want to watch theworld burn yeah so i think
people are just wired that way

SPEAKER_02 (21:41):
so like i could get behind that i i truly can't but
For a child, I mean, they'restill learning.
They're still growing.
So they're curious.
And children will pushboundaries to see what they can
get away with until my mom ordad says, no, you can't do that.

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And then it becomes a serious,no, you can't do that, rather
than the A, stop.
hey, stop.
Like, there are levels, right?
And every child knows that.
And when you're young, you startlearning that.
And you're like, oh, his tone ischanging.

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Interesting.
Let me see.
Stop it! Stop it! No! Oh, okay.
That's where it gets serious.
You know, so it's like, I mean,again, I can get behind that
because there are grown-asspeople that will Push buttons
just to push buttons.
So...

SPEAKER_03 (22:46):
What's that famous quote from Batman?

SPEAKER_02 (22:48):
Some people just want to watch the world burn.

SPEAKER_03 (22:54):
That's the one.
I really do think it is likethat sometimes.
This is an extreme case, butwhen you think about people like
Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, thesereally crazy motherfuckers.

SPEAKER_02 (23:11):
Crazy bitches.

SPEAKER_03 (23:13):
Just doing shit, man.

SPEAKER_02 (23:14):
Doing shit.
Seeing what they can do.
Just to do it.
I don't know.
Maybe

SPEAKER_03 (23:20):
I've been trying to secretly in the background while
you were talking, find thisimage.
This is one of those rare casesbecause I don't know what it
looked like to begin with.

SPEAKER_02 (23:30):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (23:32):
Like, has the Internet actually expunged it?
Because I don't know.
Oh,

SPEAKER_02 (23:37):
you can't find it?

SPEAKER_03 (23:39):
Yeah, I don't know what I would be finding if I
found it.

SPEAKER_02 (23:42):
So supposedly it was an image of Kimberly from Street
Fighter 6.
Which one's Kimberly?
That's a good question.
I think she is.
Fuck, hang on.
Hold, please.

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Analyzing white hair by chance.
No, I don't think so.
I think her hair is like bluish,something like that.
hang on uh kimberly streetfighter oops street fighter six
nope not five six street fightersix okay so nope

SPEAKER_03 (24:29):
yeah i don't know man god damn it there's a bunch
of there's a bunch of images butthey just I just want there to
be an article that says, this isthe winning image, but it's
gone.

SPEAKER_02 (24:42):
That's what she looks like.
That's what Kimberly looks like.

SPEAKER_03 (24:46):
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Then this might be...
I

SPEAKER_02 (24:52):
am curious as to what it looks

SPEAKER_03 (24:55):
like.
It might be this.
I know you can't really seethat, and I'm not putting effort
into leaning forward.
That's the only thing...
That's the only thing thatconsistently pops up.
There's also this one, but thisdoesn't look like it would be
AI.
This just looks like a cartoon.

SPEAKER_02 (25:16):
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the one that keepspopping up on all the threads or
the stories that I see.
It could be.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (25:26):
Okay, so I don't see anything, but I do want to...
analyze an image that we haven'tseen if it's something like that
second one where it is likealmost like a animation style
illustration

SPEAKER_01 (25:45):
uh-huh

SPEAKER_03 (25:46):
i could see i could see this being ai now that i'm
staring at it i i could seesomebody prompting like maybe
putting Let's give them thebenefit of the doubt.
Let's say that they put theirown drawing, like a rough
sketch, and then put it in, andit was like...
Or they probably did it.

(26:08):
I'm not going to give them thebenefit of the doubt.
I changed everything.
They put in a few images of thischaracter, and they're like...
They ask it to turn this into adrawing illustration or a
digital painting.
And then it does it.
And then they go in anddigitally paint over top of.
I've seen that.
I've seen that at Comic-Cons.

(26:28):
Now, is that cheating?
I don't know how to answer thatright now.
Because throughout history,we've seen artists take magazine
clippings, photographs even, andput them...
in a collage and then do apainting over top of it or like

(26:50):
do it digitally where they takea bunch of images and then they
smear it all around.
And then it's like, where do youdraw the line from saying like,
like, is that art or is that notart?
And at what, like what capacitymakes one an artist?
Because you could make theargument that they are like,

(27:15):
using things that are alreadythere but like are recomposing
them

SPEAKER_02 (27:21):
yep

SPEAKER_03 (27:23):
so i could i could see that being like if you use
ai to like get a jumping pointand then you go in and
manipulate over top of it.
I don't hate it, but what I dohate is how much you manipulate.
Like if you, if you change onething, like if you alter the

(27:43):
colors, that's not good enoughfor me.
No, I get that.
Like paint over top.
I need it to be like layers.
Right.
Right.
Not one singular layer.

SPEAKER_02 (27:52):
So I changed the earring.

SPEAKER_03 (27:56):
Yeah.
I didn't like the flip flops.

SPEAKER_02 (27:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (27:59):
I put Crocs

SPEAKER_02 (28:01):
on it.
The most vanilla ice thing youcould possibly do.
I

SPEAKER_03 (28:04):
added

SPEAKER_02 (28:09):
that part.
What?
Not good enough.

SPEAKER_03 (28:16):
That was beautifully said.
Don't vanilla ice it.

SPEAKER_02 (28:20):
Don't vanilla ice it.

UNKNOWN (28:23):
Fuck.

SPEAKER_02 (28:24):
Vanilla ice don't sue us.
But no, like, I agree with you.
Where do we draw the line?
Because, again, an argument canbe made about fan art, whatever,
but the problem is when AI ispulling from shit that's already

(28:48):
there that is literally justputting it on paper.
When somebody makes fan art,They add their own twist to it.
Even though it might look...
Yeah, even though it mightlook...
Some might look almost exactlylike it, but there is this...

(29:09):
I don't know if you want to callit nuance or what have you, but
you can tell there's some kindof difference.
You can tell there's somethingthere that is their signature.
Every image they draw, itbelongs to them.

SPEAKER_03 (29:26):
Yeah, you could, for lack of better terms, summarize
it as the artist filter.

SPEAKER_02 (29:33):
Right.
right there you go that that'sprobably the best way to put it
is they run it through their ownfilter and yes again it might
look pretty damn similar butyou're like that's not the same
like you can tell ai isliterally like okay so it's

(29:55):
gonna take this picture of gokuright and If that's what you
want Now it might It's going tofuck up the hands Because for
some reason AI can barely dohands

SPEAKER_03 (30:08):
Yeah I mean You know what To be fair Every artist's
journey

SPEAKER_02 (30:15):
The hands

SPEAKER_03 (30:18):
Comes with the mountain of hands I get it You
have to draw a mountain of handsJust to get one good hand

SPEAKER_02 (30:24):
Something about

SPEAKER_03 (30:25):
hands That's what AI's are working

SPEAKER_02 (30:27):
on right now Hands and fingers?

SPEAKER_03 (30:30):
Fingers for some reason?

SPEAKER_02 (30:32):
Why are they so hard to draw?

SPEAKER_03 (30:34):
Yeah.
So brittle at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 (30:37):
Yeah, so stupid.

SPEAKER_03 (30:39):
So

SPEAKER_02 (30:39):
stupid.
So stupid.
But no, I found that interestingbecause I was like, at least
Capcom did the right thing.
They pulled the winner and said,okay, you can continue voting
and we'll get somebody whoactually put time and effort
into this and didn't just, youknow, phone it in.

(31:02):
Cause that's kind of feel like,I feel like that's kind of what
it is, right?
Like you're just, let me typesomething real quick.
Oh, it looks decent.
Let me just throw that in there.

SPEAKER_03 (31:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (31:13):
Okay.
As opposed to, uh, I've seen afew on Facebook.
I wish I would have saved thatone instead of this one.
Cause some people show like whatthey do, entered and there was
an Akuma one that was fuckingdope.
I was like, how did they notwin?

(31:35):
You know, I was like, what?
This doesn't make any sense.
So I don't know.
Again, we talk about AI a lotand I think it is due to the
fact that it is, you know, it'shere and it's rapidly growing
and I will always follow up ourconversation with that statement

(31:57):
it is rapidly growing we can'tescape it it's here and it's
just gonna continue to getbigger and bigger and bigger
until it's damn near controllingeverything that you do so

SPEAKER_03 (32:13):
yeah i you know it's a double-edged sword because on
one hand it's scary It's new.
It's in many ways misunderstood.
Yes, for sure.
A lot of it is fear-based, andeverything that we know about

(32:33):
horror tells us that the fear ofthe unknown is the biggest fear
of all.
Yep.
And because a lot of us don'tunderstand it or don't know its
true power, I think that's whereit boils into a little bit.
What's its true capacity?
Is this thing going to take overus?

(32:56):
That's what a lot of people...
Like Skynet, oh no.
But on the other hand, as longas it's not weaponized, it
should never turn against us.

SPEAKER_02 (33:10):
It should, but...
When you look

SPEAKER_03 (33:13):
at things like nuclear power, if it was never
weaponized, dude, if we neverweaponized nuclear power, the
world that I think the peoplewere trying to build in the 50s,
what they were trying to buildis what the Fantastic Four

(33:35):
movie, I think, looks like.

SPEAKER_01 (33:36):
Ooh.
You know

SPEAKER_03 (33:39):
what I'm saying?
Like nuclear fusion, nuclearpower, it's clean energy.
You know, as long as it's stableand it's not weaponized.

SPEAKER_02 (33:48):
Now, we already know somebody out there somewhere is
going to be like, I need this.

UNKNOWN (33:57):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (33:58):
To take over the world.
Like, we have a pinky in thebrain.
Yeah, there's always one.
To ruin it for everybody.
Like, bro, why?
This is why we can't have nicethings.
God damn it.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 (34:17):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 (34:18):
So, I don't

SPEAKER_03 (34:20):
know.
The point I was trying to makeis I think that AI, you know,
with, like, the power of...
How do I word it?
Like automation.
And, you know, there's a lot ofjobs that we do as humans that
should be automated.
Yeah.
Because it would just makeliving easier.

(34:42):
I agree.
And I know the counter argumentis like, oh, people are going to
lose their jobs.
What are they going to do?
Well, if we look at everythingnegatively.
we can find a reason to fear it,hate it, whatever.
Absolutely.
But if we think positively,like, Hey, if I don't have to do
this mundane task of pickingproducts for Amazon, yeah, I

(35:08):
could go back to school.
I get better.
Now I know that these problemswould be better off if like
education wasn't so expensiveand so on and so forth.
One problem out of time here.

SPEAKER_01 (35:20):
Right.
One foot in front of the other.

SPEAKER_03 (35:23):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Assuming that like everything isgoing well and education is not
crazy, we could, you know, thesepeople that are maybe being
displaced from these jobs beingmore automated, they can go on
and like learn how to overseethe operation because everything
that's automated is going toneed a human as a backup.

(35:44):
Yes.
To make sure everything runssmoothly.

SPEAKER_01 (35:46):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (35:48):
So like, that's where people could like expand
and pivot.
And like, who knows, maybe like,I don't know.
It just opens the door forpossibilities.
And I think instead of fearingartificial intelligence, we
should usher it cautiously.
I

SPEAKER_02 (36:06):
agree.
I agree with you because as wesaid, it's here, it's here to
stay.
So we need to learn to live withit and not, I don't want to say
this.
Again, I've been saying multipletimes, if we use it like the

(36:28):
tool it's supposed to be usedfor, everybody should love AI.
They should.
It should make life so mucheasier.
Again, make it be a third hand,a second brain.
Hey, you know, I need, you know.

SPEAKER_03 (36:47):
Second brain is brilliant.

SPEAKER_02 (36:48):
Right?

SPEAKER_03 (36:49):
We already kind of use it like that.
Yeah.
Alexa, Siri, whatever the otherversions are.
Yeah,

SPEAKER_02 (36:58):
which one?
What else do we have?

SPEAKER_03 (37:01):
Oh, Google.
Google.
I guess it's just Google.
Yeah, because when you say,okay, Google.
Yeah, Google's so pretentious,they were like, yeah, we're not
going to give

SPEAKER_02 (37:10):
it a name.
Yeah, it doesn't need a name.

SPEAKER_03 (37:12):
Yeah, you just talk to us.
Yeah.
But I mean, that's the thing,right?
I think AI is...
Okay.
Final thought on it.
AI shouldn't do creative work.
It should do mundane tasks thathelp us be better humans.

SPEAKER_02 (37:32):
Agreed.
Agreed.
Agreed.
I like that final

SPEAKER_03 (37:36):
thought.
Because I'm the emotional one.
I'm the one that can see andfeel and hear and touch and
taste.
That's where creativity comesfrom in my mind.
Creativity is an extension ofour senses in a weird, abstract,
artsy-fartsy way.

SPEAKER_02 (37:56):
Artsy-fartsy.

SPEAKER_03 (37:57):
And I don't think AI will ever be truly capable of
it.
It can only mimic.
It can never do what we do.

SPEAKER_02 (38:05):
Right.
I agree.
I agree.
Good final thought.
I appreciate that.
I appreciate that.
All right.
So, you know, you heard it here,folks.
Street Fighter 6, Capcom, goodjob on controlling that whole
situation.
Go vote.
You know, I loved Street Fighter6.

(38:26):
I didn't know that it was goingon.
Otherwise, I would have threw myhat in the ring.
But, you know, it is what it is.
There's always next year.

SPEAKER_03 (38:34):
Do they do it yearly?

SPEAKER_02 (38:35):
So this is supposedly just their second
year doing it.
So it's kind of new.
Yeah, it's kind of new.

SPEAKER_03 (38:44):
Now, do you know if the first one happened the same
time the second one is?
I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 (38:49):
I got to look into it.
Like in the

SPEAKER_03 (38:50):
summer?
I have no idea.
You know what?
Fuck it.
You and I should just make artfor it for next time.
Hey, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (38:59):
Ready to roll.
Yeah.
Ready to roll.
Fuck

SPEAKER_03 (39:01):
that.

SPEAKER_02 (39:01):
We don't need that.

SPEAKER_03 (39:02):
And then when it comes around, we're like, oh,
cool.

SPEAKER_02 (39:06):
Yeah.
Hey, check this out.
I like it.
I like it.
Be be pro.
active.
That's what I'm hearing.

SPEAKER_03 (39:13):
Be, be ready.
So we don't got to stay ready,man.
Yeah.
Something backwards.
That's okay.
Ready.
So I don't got to be

SPEAKER_02 (39:20):
ready.
No, be ready.
So we may not have to stay readyand then get ready.
And then something about ready.
Anyway, words are hard.
All right.
Um, Do we want some Redditroulette since Yeti isn't here?

(39:45):
I

SPEAKER_03 (39:46):
think in honor of Yeti, we should do Reddit
roulette.
Reddit roulette.

SPEAKER_02 (39:52):
All right.
We'll do some Reddit roulette.
So I am going to ask you, pick anumber between 1 and 2.4.
Ooh.
2.
What?
Two.
Okay.

(40:15):
One.
I don't know if it spun.
No, it didn't.

SPEAKER_03 (40:19):
It spun good enough.
One.

SPEAKER_02 (40:21):
Two.
Okay.
Which one am I doing?
Top?
Bottom?

UNKNOWN (40:31):
Hmm.

SPEAKER_02 (40:33):
Which one are you?
Anyway...
For the joke.
Thank you, thank you.
So at the top, we have, am I theasshole for not letting my
husband meet our firstbornchild?
Or...

SPEAKER_03 (40:50):
Topical, topical.

SPEAKER_02 (40:52):
Or, am I the asshole for wanting to get married?

SPEAKER_03 (41:01):
That's it?

SPEAKER_02 (41:03):
I mean, there's stuff in between.
No,

SPEAKER_03 (41:05):
no, no, no, no.
No, I'm saying, I'm saying, wasthat the title?
Yeah, that's the title.

SPEAKER_02 (41:10):
That's the title for wanting to get married.

SPEAKER_03 (41:15):
Oh, my God.
That was beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 (41:17):
So let's go.
Let's go with this one here.
Am I the asshole for not lettingmy husband meet our firstborn
child?
We'll roll with that.
Oh, fuck.
Shit.

SPEAKER_03 (41:30):
A lot of words.

SPEAKER_02 (41:31):
Oh, shit.
It's not too

SPEAKER_03 (41:33):
late to back out.

SPEAKER_02 (41:34):
That's a long one.
That's what she said?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We're not going to do that.
What's the spark notes?
Cliff's notes.
Did you say spark notes?

SPEAKER_03 (41:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (41:53):
Fucking shit.
Yeah, this is long.
Like incredibly long.
Like super long.
Like Really long.

SPEAKER_03 (42:04):
In summary, without even looking at it, probably the
asshole.
Oh, Lord.
Why you ask?
Because there's a lot of words.

SPEAKER_02 (42:12):
So the consensus is not the asshole, surprisingly.
So do we want to read it?
Do we want to stick with this?
Grizz, when I say it's long...

SPEAKER_03 (42:27):
Did you scroll more than you did for the roulette?

SPEAKER_02 (42:31):
Yes.
We should move on.

SPEAKER_03 (42:35):
Look at all them paragraphs.

SPEAKER_02 (42:37):
It's still going.
It's still going.
This

SPEAKER_03 (42:40):
could have been an email.

SPEAKER_02 (42:44):
Finally over.
I

SPEAKER_03 (42:46):
tell you what, let's read the first comment.
It seemed smaller.

SPEAKER_02 (42:56):
Less words.
Less fucking words.
Hang on.
We can

SPEAKER_03 (43:03):
read the first paragraph and the last paragraph
and see if we can figure it out.

SPEAKER_02 (43:08):
We could.
Like you'd...
Fuck.
I just fill in the gaps.

SPEAKER_03 (43:30):
Let's do it.

SPEAKER_02 (43:32):
I

SPEAKER_03 (43:32):
didn't even mean to bring all these guns out

SPEAKER_02 (43:41):
for the joke, for the joke.

SPEAKER_03 (43:43):
You're

SPEAKER_02 (43:46):
like, you're like South park right now.
It's fucking, it's fuckingcrazy.
Um, no.
So, okay.
So it says my husband has thisbest friend, Anna.
They've been friends for a longtime and dated years ago,
mutually deciding that it's bestfor them to remain friends.
I've had no problem with thisrelationship until now.

SPEAKER_03 (44:10):
Oh.
This might be worth the read.

SPEAKER_02 (44:13):
Okay.
You want me to continue?

SPEAKER_03 (44:18):
I'm not going to lie.
I'm pretty hooked

SPEAKER_02 (44:20):
on that first sentence.
Uh-oh.
Okay.
I will carry on.
What did he do?
What did this motherfucker do?
Okay, so on that day, on the daythat I gave birth, Anna's
brother got into a car accident.
My husband got a call from herin the middle of the night and
asked him if he could drop herat the hospital her brother was

(44:42):
at, an hour away from us, sinceshe was too scared to drive.
My husband agreed, told mequickly while I was half asleep
and rushed out.
A few hours later, I hadcontractions and called my
husband.
He didn't pick up after multipletries, so I gave up and called
my dad, who drove me to thelocal hospital 12 minutes away.

(45:05):
I was so scared of giving birthalone since I've had about three
miscarriages and one stillborn.

SPEAKER_03 (45:12):
Okay.
How many paragraphs has thisbeen?

SPEAKER_02 (45:18):
Three

SPEAKER_03 (45:19):
so far.
You don't need to read anyfurther.
He's an asshole.

SPEAKER_02 (45:22):
He's an asshole.
okay

SPEAKER_03 (45:25):
and here's here's why

SPEAKER_02 (45:27):
let me explain

SPEAKER_03 (45:28):
you like like in the middle of the night in

SPEAKER_02 (45:30):
the middle of the night

SPEAKER_03 (45:31):
if i get if i get a phone call from

SPEAKER_02 (45:33):
in the middle of the night

SPEAKER_03 (45:38):
i'm likely not going to pick up anyway because i'm
dead asleep yeah but if on theoff chance i do wake up and on
the other end of that phone linemy friend who happens to be a
female that I used to date eonsago, says, my brother got in a
car accident and I need to go tothe hospital he's at.

(46:00):
If the first words out of mymouth isn't, my wife is due
sometime in the next 48 to 24hours?
No?

SPEAKER_02 (46:09):
No.
No.

SPEAKER_03 (46:11):
Then I'm an asshole.
Yeah, you're an asshole.
Immediately.
Immediately.
Like, there's not another friendyou can call.
Guess not.
There's not that person's ownparents they can't call.
Nope.
Fuck it.
You know what?
Nine non-emergent police numberand have an escort take you.

(46:32):
No shit.
You might have to ride in thebackseat, but they'd probably do
it.

SPEAKER_02 (46:36):
Yeah, I'm sure they would.
But for a car accident, I betyou.
Depending on how severe it was,I'm willing to bet they would
take you over there.
You could probably call, likeyou said, non-emergency help,
maybe even 911.
Because, I mean, somebody'sgoing to have to call it for the
accident anyway.

SPEAKER_03 (46:56):
Yeah, yeah.
Just, hey, can you take me tothe hospital my brother's at?

SPEAKER_02 (47:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (47:04):
And then bill my brother.

SPEAKER_02 (47:06):
Throw it on his bill.

UNKNOWN (47:08):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (47:10):
Oh, but that's crazy.
So no more?
You don't need any more?

SPEAKER_03 (47:13):
Honestly, I mean, it's up to you, but I feel like
there's no way there's aredeeming arc if those are the
first three paragraphs.

SPEAKER_01 (47:26):
And it

SPEAKER_03 (47:26):
was titled, Am I an Asshole for Not Letting My
Husband See the Child?

SPEAKER_02 (47:30):
I

SPEAKER_03 (47:31):
mean, there's no redemption arc, right?

SPEAKER_02 (47:33):
Hang on, hang on.
So my husband promised me thatno matter what, he'd be there
for me.
Guess what?
He wasn't.
We called multiple times while Iwas in labor, and when he
finally picked up my dad's callwhen I was giving birth, saying
that he'd misplaced his phone inthe chaos, my dad informed me,
or informed him, that no matterhow fast he drives anymore, he's

(47:55):
going to miss the birth of hischild.
Well, my husband took that as,he's already screwed up, so it
doesn't matter when he shows upat this point.
So when he finally came...
Our daughter was about fivehours old and I'd already moved
to the maternity ward.
When he came, I refused to lethim see our baby.

(48:18):
Edit.
Did let husband hold and playwith the baby after discharge
because I was so high onemotions and was shaking when I
saw him and didn't want itnegatively affect my time with
the babies.
I wanted her birth to be a happytime and I was already
struggling to feed her.

(48:39):
My husband was in a bad stateand told me to please let him
see her.
So I told him to stand by thewindow and held the baby up so
he could see her.
I told him to then leave andhe'll be allowed to interact
with the baby at my father'shome when we're both well and
out of the hospital and that Iwas most likely divorcing him.

(49:04):
Woo! The plot thickens.

SPEAKER_03 (49:09):
I'm still standing firm on my he's an asshole.
He is an asshole.
I don't know how steep of anasshole he is now.

SPEAKER_02 (49:18):
Well.

SPEAKER_03 (49:20):
All right, I'm fucking locked in.
Let's get

SPEAKER_02 (49:21):
it.
Okay.
He started bawling, crying, andapologizing, and defended
himself by saying that Anna'sbrother was in serious critical
condition, and although he'sfine, Anna needed him.
Though Anna's parents werethere, she's not that close with
them, and she was in anunbearable state.
I told them that I didn't careand that his daughter has

(49:43):
already come second to him, andall she did was be born.
I'm putting my daughter's and myhealth first and won't let her
be sidelined.
My husband agreed and left.
However...
Anna called me later and saidthat I was being controlling and
she'd never met someone as cruelas me for not letting a father

(50:05):
see his baby.
I told her that my husband madehis decision and that this was
his doing, not mine.
But now I can't help feel cruelin my actions and feel like I'm
depriving my baby of both herparents being together.
My husband sees her a few hourseach day now.

(50:27):
Am I the asshole?

SPEAKER_03 (50:32):
Man.
If it was something as simpleas...
I didn't let my husband see mydaughter after she was born
because he chose to give his...
ex-partner now friend arrived tothe hospital and he missed the

(50:57):
birth of my our daughter's uhmissed the birth of our daughter
and that was like the end of thestory she was like nope you
gotta wait until i get home fromthe hospital if that was the end
of the story she's not anasshole okay he's very much the
asshole in my opinion I don'tknow how many straws have been

(51:25):
dropped for this to occur andher to be like, all right,
that's it.
I'm fucking done.
This was such a low effortbranch.

SPEAKER_02 (51:39):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (51:40):
All you had to do was show up.

SPEAKER_02 (51:42):
Yeah, that was low-hanging fruit.
Like, literally, it's just showup for the birth of your child.
Just be there.
Yeah, just be there.
That's it.

SPEAKER_03 (51:50):
And he ultimately, at the end of the day, he wasn't
there for that.

SPEAKER_02 (51:55):
He chose not to.
He chose not

SPEAKER_03 (51:57):
to.
He chose not to be there.
whatever the excuse is afterthat choice of giving that
friend a ride losing his cellphone likely story yeah uh
honestly honestly could havevery well happened

SPEAKER_02 (52:12):
yeah he could have it doesn't look good though the
the the optics don't look good

SPEAKER_03 (52:17):
like i i honestly i don't think he lost his phone i
don't think so either left it inthe car yeah left it in the car
and just chose to not bebothered but why would you do
that when you know your wife ispregnant

SPEAKER_02 (52:29):
yeah you know she's your baby Yeah, your baby's due
any moment.

SPEAKER_03 (52:33):
Yeah.
So...
Like, when you get to...
Now, unless...
His only redemption would bethat the baby came a couple
weeks early.

SPEAKER_02 (52:41):
Right.
Yeah, yeah.
Did she carry the full

SPEAKER_03 (52:44):
term?

SPEAKER_02 (52:45):
It's not.
You

SPEAKER_03 (52:46):
know?
It's not.
It's not.
Like, if you know that your wifeis in her third trimester, that
phone is on.
Yeah.
Always.

SPEAKER_02 (52:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (52:53):
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Yep.
And, like, you definitely don'tleave it somewhere.
No.
No.
in the rush of things yeah noshit the chaos drive to the
hospital

SPEAKER_02 (53:02):
hello what rush you got all that time the fuck what
do you mean

SPEAKER_03 (53:12):
low-key i want some more updates like was her
brother actually in the hospital

SPEAKER_02 (53:16):
so you know okay okay all right you want more But

SPEAKER_03 (53:22):
wait.
But wait, there is more.
While you look for that, I'llfinish my little thought.
Okay.
I think that initially hearingit, I feel like it seems extreme
to divorce him over somethinglike this.

SPEAKER_01 (53:42):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (53:42):
But I have a suspicion that this is not We
don't have all of theinformation.
Correct.
There are some unknownvariables.
There is some unknown variablesthat could be very well valid
for deciding, you know what, Idon't want part of this anymore.

(54:03):
Yeah.
And if I'm being 100% honest,she owes nobody anything for her
decision on anything.
Nope.
It's her life.

SPEAKER_02 (54:13):
Exactly.
It's her baby.
Yeah.
The

SPEAKER_03 (54:18):
fuck?
And, like, yeah, you can makethe argument of, oh, I don't
want to deprive my daughter whohas no say in this, has no
choice in what's going on.
I don't want to, like, youknow...
ruin her life so to speak withlike having a broken family or
whatnot and it's like nah seethat's an old-ass value because

(54:40):
like you don't have to staytogether to be together and you
don't have to like forceyourself to be unhappy in a
marriage for a child you couldend up giving a better life as a
single parent

SPEAKER_02 (54:53):
absolutely absolutely especially when the
child sees you happy What's

SPEAKER_03 (55:00):
going to be a core memory for that child?
Watching two parents fightmiserably as it's growing up and
not understanding why mommy anddaddy hate each other?
Or seeing you fucking thrivingas a single parent, assuming
that both parties can bemutually...

(55:22):
Yeah, respectful.
Respectful.
You don't have to be hateful.
We just didn't work out.
Now we got to raise a babytogether.
Fucking suck it up.

SPEAKER_02 (55:30):
The problem is people aren't...
They can't manage

SPEAKER_03 (55:34):
that.
No, they can't, dude.
So there

SPEAKER_02 (55:38):
is...
So there is an edit.
That's where a lot of the extrashit came in from.
So the first edit says, I feellike this is useful information
and could explain why I was somad.
Anna's brother was not in alife-death situation.
He had serious injuries, butmost were concentrated on his

(56:00):
legs and arm.
He did have a concussion, butgained consciousness soon.
Anna was there along with bothher parents who managed all the
hospital stuff.
My husband was there asemotional support.
For Anna.

(56:44):
I don't know, but I'm still somad at him.
And it's not the first time heput Anna before me.
I can, I can forgive the othertimes since I could handle it,
but this time was the straw.
So now I'm curious how manytimes, you know what I'm saying?

(57:07):
Like you said, you called it,nailed it.
How many times has thishappened?
Cause obviously like, Somebodydoesn't just say divorce the
moment that happens, right?
I can see it happening throughan emotional state, especially
just having a baby, all thatkind of stuff.
But to go to that extreme andstick to your guns.

SPEAKER_03 (57:32):
Yeah.
Yeah, saying it after theemotions of having birth,
because there's a lot going onwith your body, I assume.
Yep.
I'm never going to know whatthat feels like.
Yeah, me neither.
I can assume with context clues.
Right.
There's a lot going on.
Yeah.
And I could see someone in, likeyou said, a heightened state of

(57:54):
emotion to be like, I'm going tofucking divorce this
motherfucker.
I ain't doing this shit no more.
Yep.
And then after a couple hours ordays or whatever it takes, you'd
be like, you know what?
I was being stupid.
silly yeah that's crazy i'vereacted yeah right but one thing
that i've come to realize in inthis 35 young years that i've
been on this earth is peopledon't just snap

SPEAKER_02 (58:17):
yeah

SPEAKER_03 (58:18):
just like bridges don't just fall

SPEAKER_02 (58:20):
yep

SPEAKER_03 (58:21):
there's there is a weight to capacity ratio that
occurs when in a mental form forwhen somebody has a psychotic
break or a meltdown.
Yep.
Um, and, and I think that thatsame formula is, uh, applied to

(58:42):
if a relationship is dissolvingwith somebody, like you don't
just snap and say, I want out ofthis after one thing.

SPEAKER_01 (58:51):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (58:51):
It's usually like a combination and, um, I'd be
curious on how many timesbecause the human capacity to
forgive and kind of like Letbygones be bygones type of thing

(59:16):
is way greater than I think thatI have the capacity to
understand.
Because I see people time andtime again forgiving
motherfuckers who don't deserveit in my humblest of opinions.
But there's also no right orwrong for...

(59:37):
what that amount of forgivenessshould look like or not look
like.
So like, like, I don't think if,if, if, for instance, if this
was me, if I was this lady andthis happened to me and this was
the very first time, I feel likeI would be well within my right
to be like, nah, I'm done.

(59:59):
Yeah.
And then someone, cause someonecan make the argument.
Well, it was only one time.
Yeah.
But it was one really fuckingimportant time.
No shit.
But you know

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:07):
what I mean?
But you want an update?
Yes.
Not just an edit, but an updateto the situation.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:14):
Yeah, yeah,

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:15):
yeah.
Okay, because this is going tobe where not the asshole.
She's not the asshole in theleast bit.
So update.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:23):
Before you update.
Yes.
I'm still in the she's not anasshole camp.
I have been from the thirdparagraph.
Right, right,

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:30):
right.
Samesies.
So edit.
Says, thank you, everyone, foryour replies.
I think that I was an assholefor using my child against him
and should have told him that hecould hold and then asked him to
leave.
So the divorce is probably goingto happen.
My brother's looking at lawyersfor me.
In the midst of this whole mess,this post made me realize I

(01:00:54):
never checked on Anna's brotherto see how he's healing because
I was so irked by Anna.
I called him, and he said thathe was doing well and will be
out of his wheelchair soon.
He asked about me and the babyand how I was doing with the
split and if I was okay with myhusband and...
Anna.

(01:01:19):
Uh-oh.
Says, I can't believe I was sooblivious.
I thought they had an emotionalthing going on because of this,
and when I confronted myhusband, he denied it.
and said me and our baby werehis priority and he made a
mistake, in quotes, and he wasbeing dumb.
Yeah, no.

(01:01:39):
Anna's brother kindly informedme that he and Anna's parents
thought that my husband and Isplit when I was seven months
pregnant and that Anna and himwere back on.
He showed up at the hospital asAnna's boyfriend, which is why
they didn't bat an eye that hewas there and not with his

(01:02:01):
pregnant wife, becauseapparently we split.
Her brother's procedures weredone well before the afternoon,
so I don't know why.
So I don't know that my husbandand Anna split.
Uh-huh.
They thought they had split?

(01:02:45):
Bro, they've been seeing eachother.
That was not the ex.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:54):
Listen, I'm flabbergasted.
Right?
I shouldn't be surprised.
However, I am shocked.
What?

SPEAKER_01 (01:03:05):
Bro.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:07):
What?
I don't know.
Okay, that's crazy.
So that means when she called inthe middle of the night or
whatever.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:14):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:15):
And she said it was going to be an hour drive.
That was all a hoax.

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:25):
It's all bullshit.
That was all bullshit.
Who even knows

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:30):
if that hospital was an hour away?

SPEAKER_02 (01:03:32):
Who knows?
Who

SPEAKER_03 (01:03:36):
knows?
Like a few rooms down.
Yo.
Yo.
That's crazy.
That's fucking wild.
Yeah.
Anything's possible.

(01:03:57):
I mean, they could have come upwith this plan.
This bitch could have been like,man, I really miss my mans.

SPEAKER_01 (01:04:03):
I'm

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:04):
going to come up with this plan on my own, and
when he gets here, I'll cue himin.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:08):
That's wild work.
That's terrible.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:12):
I found out where his phone was.
It wasn't lost.
It wasn't lost.
It wasn't lost.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:18):
What chaos are we talking about, sir?

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:22):
My man's over here writing bars.
My phone was lost in the midstof chaos.

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:28):
Fire.
Fire.
He's spitting, y'all.
Let him cook.
Let him cook.
He's cooking

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:37):
right now.
He's got himself in a boil.
That's fucking

SPEAKER_02 (01:04:40):
crazy, bro.
Here's the thing.
It's going to be interesting howthat turns out, how that ends,
because if Anna's parents andher brother thought that they
were together...
And he was split with the wife.
What happens when they find outhe's going through a divorce now

(01:05:04):
from the wife they thought hesplit from?
Are the parents going to belike, yo, so you were...
And you, my daughter, were...
You know what?
Nah.
Like, nah, you can go.
You can go.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:23):
Is Anna...
supposed to be the same orsimilar age range?
Because it was an ex frombefore, right?
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:34):
So I would assume they're probably about the same
age.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:38):
And if he's old enough to have kids, that's at
least 15.
So...

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:43):
well well if you ask hang on wait for the joke if you
ask Epstein you know wait

SPEAKER_01 (01:05:54):
oh shit

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:55):
for the joke so hey we'll never know I guess we'll
never know for the joke so

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:05):
oh my god you can't stop us

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:13):
But no, that's wild behavior.
That is wild behavior that youwould literally...
You'd miss the birth of yourchild to go fuck around.
Like I said, it almost soundslike Anna was not the ex.
She wasn't an ex.
I'd venture to say they werefucking each other the entire

(01:06:36):
time.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:38):
So...
If you look here on this chart,the more you fuck around,

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:43):
the more you're going to find out.
Brought to you by Forky.
Because guess what?
That guy was trash for the joke.
So, yeah.
You know, I'm kind of glad westuck with that.

(01:07:04):
It seemed long, but it wasmostly edits.
So I'm good with that.
And then we got an update.
So I like that.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:14):
You know, I'm glad we stuck with that one, too,
because I don't think that wecould have topped that story.
No, we couldn't.
Times.
Times Magazine.
Where you at?
I have a story for you.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:29):
No shit.
That is like.
That's almost Hallmark-worthy.
You could make a Hallmark movieout of that.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:39):
That'll almost make you forget that there's Epstein
files out there.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:42):
That's what I'm saying! For the joke! For the
joke! Because we're coming foryour head! So, yeah, that's
crazy.
And you know what?
In the midst of all of that,dude couldn't focus.
So it sounded like he probablyneeded a shot of Magic Mind.

(01:08:11):
See what I did there?
See what I did there?
That was well placed.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Wait, wait, wait.
Everybody cheering me on.
Yeah, Magic Mind.
It is a wonderful little mentalperformance shot.
Jesus Christ.
Why were it so hard today?

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:32):
It's Friday.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:33):
I don't know.
Maybe that is

SPEAKER_03 (01:08:35):
it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:08:36):
But no, it's a mental performance shot.
It's got 12 little magicalingredients.
It's got lion's mane.
It's got L-theanine.
You got matcha tea in therethat'll give you a little
caffeine.
And the L-theanine will help youabsorb that caffeine at a decent
rate to where it'll keep youawake and alert pretty much all

(01:08:59):
day.
Okay.
And it doesn't taste bad.
You would think so because it'sgreen and most people associate
green stuff to being like, ugh.
But I'm telling you right now,this thing tastes fabulous.
And it's only a little show.
It is.
Listen to Grizz.
He knows what he's talkingabout.

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:20):
Now, do you drink yours ice cold right out of the
fridge?

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:24):
Oh, yeah.
oh

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:26):
yeah yeah

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:28):
like like they say you don't have to drink it
refrigerated but refrigeraterefrigeration does something to
drinks some drinks some drinksit just hits different yeah it's

SPEAKER_03 (01:09:41):
it scratches a part of my brain that's like this is
pretty nice

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:44):
right right right right so it's like you know get
get you try it out you know tryout some magic mind um it'll It
gives you gives you like calmenergy, helps you focus, gets
you into a flow state, into thezone, as they say.
And excuse me.
And it's got ashwagandha to calmyou down, chill you out.

(01:10:09):
So if you had a stressful day,you know, you can just pop one
of these and you're like.
Yeah, you know, that sounds likeyour problem, man.
You know, so it's like...
That

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:21):
sounds like your opinion.

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:22):
Yeah, that's like your opinion, man.
I'm glad you picked up on that.
That's the best

SPEAKER_03 (01:10:28):
dude reference I'm gonna have.
That's

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:31):
all I got.
That's all I got.
I'm out.
Tapped out.
But no, if you want to try MagicMine, feel free to stop by at
www.magicmine.com and use ourdiscount code FMJPOD20 that'll
give you 48% off your firstsubscription to Magic Mind or

(01:10:56):
20% off one-time purchases.
Go ahead, give it a try.
I am gonna pop one right nowbecause just like that dude in
the story, he can't focus on theright things, right?
Like, what the fuck, bro?
Don't be like that guy.

(01:11:18):
man.
Clear the corners.
Clear those corners!

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:23):
Clear the corners.
Corners cleared.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:26):
Corners cleared.
Focus is going up.
I feel it working right now.
It's so nice.
So nice.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:35):
Alright! That might be the closest thing that we
have in our universe to a sensubean.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:43):
Yo.

SPEAKER_01 (01:11:45):
You're

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:45):
welcome.

SPEAKER_02 (01:11:46):
Yo.
I didn't even think about that.
I didn't.
I honestly didn't.
But that's a good one.
That's a good one.
No, he is.
Let him cook.
Let him cook.
Because goddamn.
I said, I didn't even thinkabout that.
It's green, too.
It is green.

(01:12:06):
Just like I said to be.
So there you go.
All right.
So today we got stuff to talkabout.
What are we talking about?
Willis.
What you talking about, Willis?
Wait.
We're talking about.
For the joke.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:23):
Strange and unusual stories.

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:27):
Strange

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:28):
stories.
That you wouldn't believe aretrue.
That

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:30):
you wouldn't believe are true.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:36):
Or something like that.
Something

SPEAKER_02 (01:12:38):
like that.
So, yeah, there are lots ofstories out there from many
people.
That could be paranormal, maybejust something weird that
they've seen one day.
And so strange, out of theordinary, out of the blue, from
the left field.
And they're like, I wish I wasrecording, because nobody is

(01:13:02):
going to believe this.
Because it's so strange.
And if I tell anybody, they'regoing to look at me like I'm
some kind of green bug.
And probably shoo me away likeone, you know, like, get out of
here.
Get out of here.
Get out of here.
You're so full of shit.
You're in the macaroni salad.

(01:13:22):
Right, get out of here.
You're in the macaroni salad.
So I just want to give anexample of a strange story, a
weird story that is so strangethat you won't believe it's
true.
So I'm on Reddit.
and it says, what's your no onewill ever believe this true

(01:13:47):
story?
Here's the first one.
It says, my weirdest true storythat's most likely not
paranormal.
Waiting for a city bus one daynear an intersection.
Perfectly normal day.
Normal looking car drives past.
As it approaches the trafficlight, I notice there's a

(01:14:10):
murderer of around 30 crowsflying behind the car.
I don't know a lot of peoplethat use the word murder,
especially in the right context,but good job.
Right, right.
But they say there are about 30crows flying behind the car,
like one car length up in theair and one length behind.

(01:14:35):
Car turns left at the trafficlight.
The crows turn left and followit.
Weirdest fucking thing, and Icouldn't get my phone out in
time to take a video.
It's like if the crows wereballoons on a 15-foot string,
that's how tightly they werefollowing that car.
And it drives me crazy because Iwill never know what happened.

(01:14:56):
Did the driver kill a crow?
Was the driver a witch?
What happened when the drivergot out of the car wherever they
were going?

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:09):
That's crazy work.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:10):
That's fucking wild.
Could you imagine?

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:12):
I mean, like, yeah, because would crows do that
under the certain variable?
I think yes.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:23):
You think

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:23):
so?
What

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:24):
would cause crows to

SPEAKER_03 (01:15:25):
do that?
Okay, so let me explain why Ithink this.
Okay.
I didn't experience very muchcrow activity when I lived in
Cincinnati area.
Gotcha.
And I don't have a reason why.
I just never came across crowslike that.
Okay.
I would see them, and that wasabout it.

(01:15:45):
But since I've lived here inWashington, there's been two
consecutive years of parentcrows having baby crow near the
hotel.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:02):
Hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:03):
And baby crow gets pushed out of nest.
Yeah.
Mind you, baby crows are huge.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:09):
Baby crows look like adult crows.
Like, they're so big.
Because crows themselves aremassive.

SPEAKER_01 (01:16:17):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:19):
The baby crows are like the size of an adult
pigeon.

SPEAKER_02 (01:16:21):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:23):
So when you see it on the floor, chirping its
little chirp.
Chirp, chirp, chirp.
You're like, dude, what are youcrying about?
You have fucking wings.
You have wings.
Go fly.
And for the longest time, thefirst time that last year, the
first one that I saw, I waslike, oh, dang, this crow looks
injured because it's not tryingto fly away.

(01:16:43):
And then there's two crowshanging out above.

SPEAKER_02 (01:16:46):
Ricky, two crows.
I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 (01:16:49):
Yeah.
And this story and a coworker.
because he was like, have youever seen the Rick and Morty
episode?
Yes.
It's topical.
I think I did go back andisolate watch that, but I don't
remember it.
But anyway, so baby crow, babycrow needs adult crows to like

(01:17:14):
oversee it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:15):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:17:16):
And because I'm in the city, like it's going to
die.
So people put it in a box.
These crows didn't like that.
They came down and would fly atpeople's

SPEAKER_01 (01:17:26):
heads.

SPEAKER_03 (01:17:27):
Long-winded way of saying, if that car abducted a
baby crow,

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:33):
I

SPEAKER_03 (01:17:35):
could see a murder of crows rallying behind this
shit.
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:40):
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
Because crows are like prettyintelligent birds.
Super

SPEAKER_03 (01:17:45):
smart.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17:45):
Yeah, they're very smart.
And just like wasps, apparently.
What a weird word that is.
Wasps.
They remember your face.
Waspi.
Waspi.
I'm

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:01):
sorry.
Multiple

SPEAKER_02 (01:18:01):
wasp.
Multiple wasp.

SPEAKER_01 (01:18:04):
Wasp.
Wasp

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:07):
squared.

SPEAKER_02 (01:18:07):
Hey, tell your cat I said.

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:10):
Tell your cat I said wasp.

SPEAKER_02 (01:18:15):
Oh, shit.
Anyway, but just like wasps,crows do remember your face.
So it's like they hold grudgeslike they they will beef with
you.
If you fuck with them.
So don't fuck with crows.
And apparently, the saying goes,if you gotta ask, it's probably
not a crow.
Because you have crows andravens.

(01:18:37):
They are two different birds.
Ravens are much bigger than

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:41):
crows.

SPEAKER_02 (01:18:43):
And they say, if you gotta ask, it's probably not a
crow.
Because you'll know.
You'll know if it's a raven.
You'll be like, oh, ooh.

SPEAKER_03 (01:18:55):
Not only are ravens way bigger than crows, they're
also terrible at AFC Northfootball.
Go Bengals.

SPEAKER_02 (01:19:03):
Ooh, hold on.
Wait, wait, wait.
For the joke, just pissed off anentire community.
A whole fucking community.
I know.
This is the last Thursday we hadwith no football.
So, you know, hang on.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
That's something to celebrate.

(01:19:25):
But you had, you had to just,that's really.
He's seen it.
It

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:35):
was the bangle inside of

SPEAKER_02 (01:19:37):
him.
I get it.
I get it.
Cause you know, you know, abangle and a Raven who's really
going to win.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:42):
Honestly, it could go either way.

SPEAKER_02 (01:19:48):
Come on.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:49):
No, get out of here.
Get out of here.

SPEAKER_02 (01:19:55):
This is how much I agree with you.

SPEAKER_03 (01:19:59):
Not me trying to win back 2% of the Raven fans that
listen to this show.

SPEAKER_02 (01:20:10):
They're going to be like, oh, he's okay.
He's all right.
Sorry, I'm sorry.
He's all right.
Yeah, he's all right.
So yeah, just don't piss offcrows, I guess.
Want another story?
Yeah.
Okay.
So this one states, this wasfrom three years ago.
Sweet older lady in our churchwas a retired nurse.

(01:20:33):
Never married, no kids.
She had a heart attack, andwhile she was in the hospital,
her niece and nephew came andtook her stuff.
She had a modest apartment, butshe had some very nice crystal
and silver and some lovelyfurniture.
When she came home, she had nodishes and almost no furniture.
Several years later, she passedaway.

(01:20:55):
Her most recent will, datedafter her heart attack, left$1
each to her niece and nephew.
Everything else went to thechurch.
Her estate?
was nine million dollars

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:20):
brother that's crazy that okay y'all get one dollar
each i will pull the microphoneclose to everybody this is the
level of pettiness that i strivefor.
Bro.
That's

SPEAKER_02 (01:21:41):
crazy.
Nine million dollars is how muchher estate was worth.
And she said, y'all gonna getone dollar each.
Don't spend it all in one place.

UNKNOWN (01:21:55):
Wow.

SPEAKER_02 (01:21:57):
Damn.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:58):
Damn.
I don't even hate that,

SPEAKER_02 (01:22:02):
bro.
I don't either because it soundslike they were awful.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:05):
I would one-up her and join said

SPEAKER_02 (01:22:08):
church.

UNKNOWN (01:22:10):
Ooh.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:11):
I'm going to get my eyes, Grandma.
I'm going to get my eyes.
I'm

SPEAKER_02 (01:22:15):
going to get my get back.
I'm going to get my get back.
Hold on.
$9 million?
Nah.
Nah, we beefing now.
We beefing now.

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:26):
Grandma.
I'm going to be in that choir.
I'm going to be there.
They're going to pay me out ofthat$9 million.

SPEAKER_02 (01:22:33):
I'ma be saying it.
I'ma be saying it.
And you know a song?
I'ma be saying it.
I have a structured settlementand I need cash.

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:48):
That

SPEAKER_03 (01:22:50):
was

SPEAKER_01 (01:22:52):
stupid.

SPEAKER_02 (01:22:59):
That was stupid.

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:03):
It's perfect because nobody saw that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:05):
Nobody saw it.
They're just like, what?
Oh, I was like a

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:12):
murderer.
Nobody saw

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:15):
it.
No,

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:18):
it's a dumb ass.
Why would he do that?
But, but I will tell you this.
If anybody listens to that, Iguarantee you they finished that
jingle.
They said, Call J.J.
Wentworth!

SPEAKER_01 (01:23:35):
877-CASH-NO!

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:39):
At least all the audience that have driven cars
in the Ohio area for

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:45):
however

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:47):
long that commercial's been on the air.

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:49):
And it's still going strong, so they're doing
something

SPEAKER_03 (01:23:56):
right.
Oh,

SPEAKER_02 (01:23:59):
shit.
Oh, my God.
Oh, man.
That's actually fucking wild,bro.
Okay, so you want another one?

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:05):
Wait, you can top the$9 million church donation?

SPEAKER_02 (01:24:10):
Probably not, but we're going to try.
We're going to

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:12):
try.
All right, let's go.

SPEAKER_02 (01:24:14):
This one's...

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:16):
Swing at it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:24:18):
Swing away, Meryl.
Shout out M.
Night Shyamalan, by the way.
One of the greatest directorsever.

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:31):
You could say he's the Babe Ruth of directing.

SPEAKER_02 (01:24:33):
What?

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:36):
What?

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:38):
What?

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:40):
He just keeps making movies and eventually one of
them will be good.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24:43):
Well...
Damn.

SPEAKER_02 (01:24:50):
Let's not take shots at M.
Night Shyamalan.
Next thing you know.
Hey,

SPEAKER_03 (01:24:54):
I like some of his movies.
No, I do too.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:25:00):
He's missing.
He's

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:01):
missing.
Not twisting.

SPEAKER_02 (01:25:04):
They ain't twisting.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:05):
Those twists are more like turns.

SPEAKER_02 (01:25:07):
Yeah, basically.
Like very soft turns.
Not like hairpin, right?
It's just gradual twists.
Listen, you

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:16):
miss every shot you don't take.
I guess.
I guess.

SPEAKER_02 (01:25:21):
Oh, my God.
Which is why I

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:22):
call him the Babe Ruth of directing.

SPEAKER_02 (01:25:26):
For the joke.

SPEAKER_03 (01:25:29):
Okay.
All right, go, go.

SPEAKER_02 (01:25:31):
All right, this one says, when I was 16, this was
three years ago, When I was 16,I woke up into one of those very
vivid real-life dreams.
Like a dream where you wake upin your room and don't realize
you're still dreaming.
I sat upright in bed and lookedsideways to my door and saw a

(01:25:54):
figure standing in my doorway.
The figure said, Your dad willdie when you're 22.
Then I actually woke up.
laying in bed, too nervous toturn around and look at the
door.
The next morning at breakfast, Itold my family, including my
dad, about the dream.

(01:26:16):
Everyone was uneasy, and then mydad said, don't worry about it.
Now that you've told me, there'sno way it'll happen.
Famous last words.
Why?
He died tragically and suddenlywhen I was 22.
Wait.

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:36):
I thought they said three years ago they were 16.

SPEAKER_02 (01:26:39):
So this is when it was posted.
It was three years ago.
And they're just saying when Iwas 16.
That was three years ago.
So I don't know how old theywere when they...
oh okay

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:57):
i was assuming

SPEAKER_02 (01:26:58):
no

SPEAKER_03 (01:26:58):
three years ago a 16 year old posted no no no no okay

SPEAKER_02 (01:27:03):
this person was just saying in their story they

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:05):
were i'm glad i'm glad because like i was like in
my mind this is a 19 year oldtalking time

SPEAKER_01 (01:27:11):
travel why would

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:13):
you post this before you're 22 right now i'm on a
cliffhanger we need an updatethree years i can't math we need
an

SPEAKER_02 (01:27:23):
update

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:25):
yeah I'm

SPEAKER_02 (01:27:25):
sorry.
I'm

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:26):
not going to lie.

SPEAKER_02 (01:27:27):
That's crazy.
That's crazy work.
Yeah, that's crazy.
That's crazy to actually have ithappen.
I'd be like, oh, no.
Like, who the fuck came to me?

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:35):
I got one.
I got a personal one.

SPEAKER_02 (01:27:38):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (01:27:39):
It's not that crazy, but I live in a over
100-year-old building.
Ooh.
And I'm convinced it's haunted.
Okay.
And...
So I've always been a...
I don't know if a believer inparanormal is accurate.

(01:28:04):
Okay.
Because I guess like hopeful,optimistic.
I don't know.
Because I never had like apersonal account.
Okay.
But I'm like open.
I had been open to thepossibility of paranormal shit
existing.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:22):
Correct.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:22):
Cause why not?
Right.
Like we don't know why any ofthis bullshit is anything.
So like, why wouldn't there beright.
Right.
So we moved to this building andI've lived in old buildings
before when I was in Cincinnati,but nothing quite as old as this
building.
Yep.
And it also used to be like asenior living facility, not

(01:28:45):
quite like a nursing home, butjust like an apartment building
for seniors.

SPEAKER_01 (01:28:48):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:49):
And so there was a full kitchen on the first floor
that they would prepare all themeals for the house.
And there is a dining hall onthe third or fourth floor, I
forget, where the people thatlived here could go to eat their
dinner.

SPEAKER_02 (01:29:09):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:29:10):
And there's also offices and all kinds of other
shit.
But it's very likely...
that people have passed away inthis building of course because
it was a senior living facilityright um and with that
information being understoodwhere there's death death can

(01:29:31):
linger of course or theafterlife right yeah excuse me
so got two elevators in thebuilding that we technically i
think there's four but there'stwo elevators that we use um for
like the main transportation forthe building and oftentimes one

(01:29:53):
of the elevators is always downAnd there's, you know, there's
probably a medical reason or amedical and mechanical reason
for the problems, like whetherit's like a compromised part or
whatever, a sensor that's gonebad after so many whatevers.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:10):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:11):
But the fact that it's always down, I've been here
for three years and it is alwaysdown.

SPEAKER_01 (01:30:17):
Hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (01:30:18):
Like abnormal amounts of elevator downtime.
Maybe it's regular, but I mean,like...
you're having this much elevatorproblems buy a new elevator you
know what i'm saying like it'stime for a new one how is this
such a problem right yeah yeahuh so like that makes me think
that there there's some weirdbehavior going on and then

(01:30:39):
furthermore there's two otherthings one is related to the
elevator when you're going upthe elevator it will uh like
each floor like it like pings onthe LCD, like four, one, two,
three, so on.
Yep.
Um, and then like a light that'slike pointing up or with an

(01:31:01):
arrow up or a light with anarrow down will light up.
Like when it stops on a floor,say you stops on three and it's
going up, this little light willlight up for arrow going up.
And then there's a, like a bell,but it, it only happens when the
doors open.
Sometimes when the elevator'straveling, uh, That light, the

(01:31:21):
arrow light and the bell will gooff on every fucking floor.
But the doors aren't opening.
You're just traveling.
So it's like a malfunction.
And I'm like, when that happens,I like to think that it's just a
fucking ghost just being likebling, bling, bling.
With the fucking door, like withthe little door thing.
Because it just, like, why is itdoing that?

(01:31:44):
And I'm sure you can find amechanical reason to explain it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:31:47):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:31:50):
Why?

SPEAKER_02 (01:31:51):
Yeah, no, I get it.
I get it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:31:54):
The third thing, the third thing that kind of ties to
the, I'm just saying that thebuilding is weird at this point,
but just like weird shit hashappened to the building that I
can't explain.
And nobody would believe me.
Probably.
There's a spot in our garagearea that we have to walk
through to get to the dog gardento take my dog out.

(01:32:15):
And it's right in front of thegarage door.
Not only does the garage doorsometimes roguely open in the
middle of the night when no oneis around.
And I'm talking, like, 1 or 2a.m.
Because I sometimes am a fuckinglate guy.
Like, I'm a night owl.
So I'm up until, like, 2 in themorning sometimes.
And I'll go downstairs, take thedog out one last time, or, like,

(01:32:38):
just go out to smoke at, like, 1in the morning.
And when I'm walking down there,like, the garage door just
opens.
And I'm like, the fuck is that?
You know?
What's this?
have little garage door keypobthings, but I don't think that
there's somebody just pressingthe garage door button randomly.

SPEAKER_02 (01:32:55):
That wouldn't make sense.
Yeah, that wouldn't make

SPEAKER_03 (01:32:57):
sense.
So something is happening.
Some energy field is being doneto fucking make it open.
And right now, Huh.
You know, animals are sensitive.

SPEAKER_02 (01:33:32):
to that kind of stuff.
So the

SPEAKER_03 (01:33:34):
cat acts up sometimes in the apartment.
And like, I think, I just thinkthis place is haunted.

SPEAKER_02 (01:33:38):
Could be, could be.
I mean, if it's old, if it's anold building.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't doubtthat there's some energy left
there.
And yeah, that's who knows

SPEAKER_03 (01:33:53):
when people, when people ask me like, what do I
believe in?
It's energy, bro.

SPEAKER_02 (01:33:56):
No energy.
110%, 110%.
Yeah.
So it's funny you bring that upbecause I have always said I
feel like I'm followed bysomething.
I don't know what.
I don't know who.
And I don't know why.

(01:34:20):
But we can get into that wholeentire thing some other time.
But I will give you a story.
When I was working, because alot of the times that it
happens, I'm sleeping and peoplesay, oh, you were probably
dreaming.
That was probably what it was.
Kind of like what this personjust talked about, like a very

(01:34:42):
lucid, vivid type of dream.
So I share this story and I willalways say, you believe what you
want.
Like, I'm not here to changeyour mind.
Or anything like that.
I'm not here to convert you.
To shit.
Like you believe what youbelieve.
And you stand on that.

(01:35:03):
Now if you ever want to questionsomething.
Have at it.
But I just share.
My experiences.
So this was at work.
What I do now.
And I was.
At an apartment building.
I was there to do a turn off.
Turn the gas on.

(01:35:25):
And.
Whenever you do, you have to gocheck the appliances, water
heater, furnace, stuff likethat.
I checked the meter, cameinside, and the way the
apartment was set up, it waslike, you walk in, living room,
kitchen, hallway, furnace in thecloset here, bedroom, go back,

(01:35:50):
and it dead ends, and then T'soff, and there's second bedroom,
water heater sink was outside ofthe bathroom which was kind of
strange but i've seen it beforebut the sink was over no it was
it was like i said it was anapartment building so i

SPEAKER_03 (01:36:08):
got you

SPEAKER_02 (01:36:10):
and then the sinks there and then the bathroom like
toward the sink the bathroom'son the left so i went in checked
the furnace went to the backchecked the water heater to mark
it I usually check the sink,make sure the water's on.
Cause if it's not on, I don'thave to light the water heater.

(01:36:33):
So went to the sink, turned iton, made sure it was running,
got water.
Cool.
Turned it off.
I was coming back and came downthe hallway, made the turn.
I shit you not.
Soon as I turned the light inthe bathroom came on.
I was like, and, and I was likethis.

(01:36:54):
I was like, Everything in mesaid, go outside.

SPEAKER_03 (01:37:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:37:03):
But there was that one little thing of curiosity.
And I was like, no way.
So I walked over there.
And I poked my head in.
And as soon as I poked my headinto the bathroom, light turned
off.

UNKNOWN (01:37:21):
I'm good.

SPEAKER_02 (01:37:22):
And I was like, huh.
And I looked over at the lightswitch.
It was in the off position.
I flip it up.
No light.
I was flipping this thing.
I was like, no fucking way.
I went through that wholeapartment.
Flipping switches.
No electricity.

(01:37:45):
I was like, I'm going

SPEAKER_03 (01:37:49):
to leave.
I'm going

SPEAKER_02 (01:37:50):
to head out.
See ya.

SPEAKER_03 (01:37:56):
That's insane.

SPEAKER_02 (01:37:57):
So again, you can believe whatever you want to
believe.
I share my experiences and youtake it how you want.
Some people have said maybethere was a short.
Okay, so you're telling me thatit timed up just right.
Like that's my luck that ittimed up just right for the

(01:38:21):
light to turn on as I'm leavingand then shut off as soon as I
stick my head in the bathroom.

SPEAKER_03 (01:38:28):
Yeah, right?

SPEAKER_02 (01:38:29):
Buddy.

SPEAKER_03 (01:38:31):
Crazy coincidence, if so.

SPEAKER_02 (01:38:32):
Yeah, no shit.
Like, that'll never happenagain.
But, you know.
But do I have more of thosestories?
Absolutely.
Because, again, I feel likesomething is following me and I
don't know what.
I don't know who.
That's

SPEAKER_03 (01:38:49):
really interesting.

SPEAKER_02 (01:38:50):
It is interesting.
Now,

SPEAKER_03 (01:38:54):
I have questions.

SPEAKER_02 (01:38:54):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (01:38:58):
in the because there's obviously multiple
accounts you just said yep hasany of these moments made you
feel like like a shift on likelike good or bad energy or
neutral energy very neutral okaybecause i was going to say like

(01:39:21):
a light a light turning on isn'tinherently

SPEAKER_02 (01:39:26):
bad or good right Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:39:28):
Right.
But, like, anything that's,like, out of the abnormal is
inherently scary.

SPEAKER_02 (01:39:36):
Because you don't see, especially, like, lights
like that that are running offof, you know, just a light
switch, you don't see themturning on and off by themselves
all the time.
Like, it just

SPEAKER_01 (01:39:49):
doesn't.
Or

SPEAKER_02 (01:39:50):
ever.
Or ever.
But it's just, that's the crazypart.
Right.
I'll share one more just to...
Since we're sharing stories thatare crazy and strange that you
won't believe are true.
So I want to say it was maybeafter the second experience that

(01:40:16):
I had with said entity that Ifeel is following me.
I had a friend...
We used to do the YouTubechannel together years ago.
I kind of told them what wasgoing on.
I explained the whole situationand what was going on in the

(01:40:39):
house that we were living in atthe time.
I was like, I'm the only onethere from literally the time I
get home from work until thetime I leave, really.
I'm the only person there.
So I know it's not somebodyelse, right?
Like, you know what I mean?

(01:41:00):
Like, I know it's not somebodyelse.
So this one's going to blow yourfucking mind.
So I'm explaining things to him,how it went down, all that kind
of shit.
And he started getting on thetopic of like, do you want to do
like some EVP sessions?
Do you want to do like try toget some, you know, proof, so to

(01:41:23):
speak?
And I was like, you know, Ihaven't done that in a while.
I kind of want to.
Like, you really want to do it?
He was like, yeah, let's do it.
And we kind of like talked aboutwhere we were going to start.
And I was like, I don't know ifI have batteries.
And I promise you.
Now, this was 1030 at night,something like that, maybe 11.

(01:41:45):
Nobody was outside or anythinglike that.
And where we were sitting, itwas in the living room.
He was sitting over on thisside.
I was sitting over on this side.
And the kitchen's over here.
All of a sudden, he heard ittoo, by the way.
All of a sudden, we just hearthis, hey.

(01:42:07):
And I'm like, we're the only twoin here.
And I was like,

SPEAKER_03 (01:42:14):
what do you mean,

SPEAKER_02 (01:42:15):
hey?
I was like, what?
So we went to the kitchen,looked out back.
We were like, nobody's outthere.
And he was like, bro, now wouldbe the time to do EVPs, right?
Like, let's do this.
I was like, okay, I got it.
I got you.
I got you.
So we started, you know, kind oftalking to whatever it was.

(01:42:38):
We were like, hey, we're goingto get something real quick.
If you want to talk, you want tospeak your mind, now's the time
to do it.
And if you're willing to, giveus a sign.
Now, we're saying this as we'regoing up to get the equipment.
And in my room, I do.

(01:43:00):
But unfortunately, the stuff wedid is no longer on it because
it was so old that it justdeleted for whatever reason.

SPEAKER_03 (01:43:07):
Or

SPEAKER_02 (01:43:09):
something

SPEAKER_03 (01:43:09):
deleted

SPEAKER_02 (01:43:10):
it.
Or something deleted it.
No shit.
No shit.
Never thought of it that way.
But...
We go into my room to get thedigital recorder.
And I was like, I distinctlyremember.
I was like, if you want to saysomething, now's the time to do

(01:43:31):
it.
While I'm grabbing it out of thedrawer, and I promise you, I
shit you not, Grizz, thecomputer I had in my room, it
was off at the time, suddenlystarted playing music.
I said, no fucking way.

(01:43:52):
That's crazy.
Bro, we looked at each other andhe was like, you got batteries?
I was like, yes.
I was like, hang on.
Hold on,

SPEAKER_03 (01:44:05):
please.
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (01:44:07):
He's like, what are you waiting for?
So it was interesting because itonly played for like 10 seconds.
And then it just, I don'tremember.
I honestly don't, but it just,

SPEAKER_03 (01:44:22):
I feel like it might've had like a

SPEAKER_02 (01:44:25):
meaning.
Yeah.
Something contextual.
Yes.
Yes.
But I don't remember.
I was just, I was more

SPEAKER_03 (01:44:32):
right.
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (01:44:35):
I was more shocked that we got that.
I was like, yo man.
And we didn't have anythingrecording it.
Of course not.
Right.
I was like fucking bullshit.
So yeah.
So, of course, I get thebatteries in.
We start moseying around.
He's like, where do you want tostart?
I was like, we can start in thebasement.
Start in the basement, work ourway up.

(01:44:56):
He was like, okay, fine.
So we did that.
Didn't catch anything in thebasement.
Didn't catch anything on thefirst floor.
So I told them, I was like, thisis probably where we should
start.
Really, where we should havestarted.
Because I told them every nightat 10 p.m., around 10.

(01:45:18):
Because I got off of work at9.30, and I was only 20 minutes
away.
So I'd get home by like 10.
I'm sitting in the living room,eating my dinner, watching TV.
And every night at 10 o'clock,right above the living room,
where the farthest bedroom, itwould sound like somebody stood

(01:45:43):
up out of a chair, out of thebed, whatever it was, And it
would walk down the hallway andstop at the stairs every night.
And I was like, I guess we'rejust living with this.
Like, what am I going to do?
I mean, I never felt any malice,any negative energy.

(01:46:09):
It was just happening.
So I was like, all right, fuckit.
So I told them.

SPEAKER_03 (01:46:14):
Did that always happen?
You felt like it sounded likesomeone would stand up and just
walk to the stairs and that wasit?

SPEAKER_02 (01:46:20):
That was it.
It would stop.
It would stop at the stairs.

SPEAKER_03 (01:46:23):
I forget what it's called.
But there is a term for that.
Like where a soul

SPEAKER_02 (01:46:30):
is trapped in

SPEAKER_03 (01:46:33):
a replay loop.

SPEAKER_02 (01:46:34):
So you have a residual haunting, which is
basically on a loop.
Where they're stuck in time.
Yeah, where it's stuck in time.
And then you have a smarthaunting that interacts with
you.
That is like, you know, it'sintelligent.
Well, I think it's anintelligent haunting is what

(01:46:57):
they call it.
So I'm not sure.
I still don't know to this day.
Because I told them, I was like,we should go to where it starts.
Let's go to where it startsevery single night.
And see what we get.
So we asked questions.
Whatever.
Now the crazy part was.

(01:47:18):
As we were upstairs.
We did chase it around.
It did move.
It went into a bathroom.
We went in there.
And then we heard it in anotherbathroom.
And we were like.
Yo what the fuck.
It was wild.
It was crazy.
So when I listened back to thetape.

(01:47:39):
And I wish it didn't delete.
But when we listen back, when wewent into the bedroom at the
end, I specifically rememberasking the question, it was
like, I think I asked, who areyou?

(01:48:00):
Why are you here?
Are you stuck here?
Are you mad?
And I think right after I askedthat, all you heard was a low,
like it was, it was a growl.
And I was like, that's not good.
When I heard that, I was like,yeah, could have been, could

(01:48:23):
have been a grunt, but itsounded almost like a low growl.
And I was like, well, I knowthat's not good.
I was like, I, you know, I waslike, I've, I've, I love ghost
hunters, all that kind of stuff.
But I was like, if there'sanything they taught me, that's
not good.
You know, I was like, so,

SPEAKER_03 (01:48:47):
so interesting.
Like, why would, why would likea benevolence or would it be
benevolent?

SPEAKER_02 (01:48:53):
Probably

SPEAKER_03 (01:48:54):
benevolent.
Yeah.
Benevolent, um, spirit beseeming, unless it's a trap
trying to draw someone in byhaving this loop that it plays
could be, and then get it,getting someone to, uh, inquire
yep like hey what are you doingand then that's when it sinks

(01:49:15):
its teeth

SPEAKER_02 (01:49:16):
could be could very well be

SPEAKER_03 (01:49:18):
so let me ask you yeah you you obviously don't
live in that house anymore

SPEAKER_02 (01:49:23):
no

SPEAKER_03 (01:49:25):
where was that house at

SPEAKER_02 (01:49:27):
so funny you ask it was in kentucky now mind you
where the house was built It wasbuilt brand new.
Like, there was never...
Like, it's not an old house,right?

SPEAKER_03 (01:49:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:49:47):
But it was built on a plantation.

SPEAKER_01 (01:49:52):
Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_02 (01:49:53):
Yeah.
So...

SPEAKER_01 (01:49:56):
Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_02 (01:49:57):
Take that how you will.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:50:05):
Well...
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's a thing.
Yeah, that's a thing.
Now...

SPEAKER_02 (01:50:13):
Good old Commonwealth.

SPEAKER_03 (01:50:14):
Is that house still there?

SPEAKER_02 (01:50:16):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (01:50:19):
Obviously, you don't know who lives there.

SPEAKER_02 (01:50:21):
No, I don't know who lives there now.
But again, again, listen to me,listen to me.
Again, I don't think it was thehouse.
I don't think it was what itwas.
I think...
Because when...
Fuck.
We went to Paducah, and my momis obviously big into ancestry.

(01:50:49):
So whenever she goes where ourfamily is, she's always looking
at dead people.
She's got to chase them.
We got to go to the cemetery.
Got to go to the cemetery.
Got to find all these missingpieces.
And it was interestingbecause...
that one time that one year whenwe went i had a feeling that

(01:51:11):
like we were being watched inthe cemetery but i never brought
it up like it felt likesomething was watching us and
shortly after that trip is wheneverything started happening

SPEAKER_03 (01:51:26):
okay so like the house story you just told

SPEAKER_02 (01:51:29):
yep

SPEAKER_03 (01:51:30):
happened after

SPEAKER_02 (01:51:32):
the Paducah trip.
And that was like a few months

SPEAKER_03 (01:51:36):
afterward.
I have so many questions.
Ask them.
Ask away.
I want to go to that house andask those people that live there
now If they experience anything.

(01:51:59):
Do you experience anything?

SPEAKER_02 (01:52:01):
Any weird shit?

SPEAKER_03 (01:52:02):
Don't be too descriptive.
Like stairs walking or whatever.
Because then they might be like,you know what?
There was this one time.
But if you were like, hey, thisis going to be so fucking weird.
But we grew up in this house.
I distinctly remember everynight at 10 p.m.
or a.m., whichever side of theclock, I'm assuming.

SPEAKER_02 (01:52:24):
P.m., p.m.,

SPEAKER_03 (01:52:25):
yeah.
a weird event would occur.
And I just want to know if likethat happens to you.
Yeah.
And if you think that me askingthis is weird, you don't have to
answer.
I will take your non-answer asI'm probably being weird and

SPEAKER_02 (01:52:43):
I'll just walk away.
I'll leave you alone.

SPEAKER_03 (01:52:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:52:47):
I'm leaving.
Goodbye.
I need

SPEAKER_03 (01:52:49):
to know more about this

SPEAKER_02 (01:52:50):
house.
So again, I'm almost willing tojust like give you all of it.
Cause I now, now I have youhooked, right?
Like now

SPEAKER_03 (01:53:01):
I'm in there.

SPEAKER_02 (01:53:02):
He's like, I'm invested.
I'm invested.
Like, give me more, give memore.
Like, so I can give you thecrash course, like readers
digest.
Cause I think we're coming.
We're probably over time rightnow.

SPEAKER_03 (01:53:16):
So what's it, what's those magazines called at the
checkout line of the grocerystore?

SPEAKER_02 (01:53:21):
Oh, fuck.
Fuck.
Like the readers digest.

SPEAKER_03 (01:53:28):
Yeah, I guess.
Yeah, that's probably.
Or

SPEAKER_02 (01:53:31):
the tabloids.
The tabloids.
Yeah, give me the

SPEAKER_03 (01:53:34):
tabloids story version.
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (01:53:39):
So the first time I had an experience.
Again, believe what you want to.
First time I had an experience,I was sleeping.
Happened at like 9 o'clock inthe morning.
It was right before my alarmwent off.
And Yeti.
He was over.

(01:53:59):
And he was sleeping in the roomwhere all the shit was starting.
And he was sleeping.
And I was sleeping.
And I was sleeping with my backtoward the door.
And I heard the door open.
And when I rolled over, it wascracked.
Like, about that much.
And all I seen was this blackfigure.

(01:54:19):
I mean, like, pitch black.
Now, it's early.
And I'm like, I'm thinking it'sYeti.
And he's just, like, beingweird.
Because he...
used to do that all the time.
Just like, I'm looking at you.
And I'm like, oh, man.
So I thought it was him.
So I roll back over and I goback to sleep.

(01:54:39):
Try to, at least.
And I get the feeling thatsomeone or something is still
staring at me.
And I was like, huh.
So I rolled over and it's stillthere.
Door's cracked.
Black mass.
I was like, the fuck?
So I'm staring and I'm liketrying to adjust my eyes because

(01:55:00):
I'm still like half asleep andI'm trying to see who it is.
And from that moment, like whenI was trying to see what it was,
my whole body basically, andthis is where people are like,
you're probably dreaming.
It's probably night terrors,whatever.

(01:55:23):
Because from head to toe, Ifroze.
Like, I was paralyzed.
Like, sleep paralysis?
Yes.
Yeah, people call that a thing,too.
Yeah.
And I felt it was pins andneedles from, like, head to toe.
And I was like, what the fuck?
And I was, like, trying to move,right?

(01:55:43):
Like, I didn't understand.
I was like, what the fuck?
Come on.
Come on.
Come on.
And, like, it was really hard.
And that lasted for a fewseconds.
and this is how hard i wastrying to move i almost fell out
of bed because i rolled over andi was like holy shit and i
looked at the door it was closedand i was like odd crazy work

(01:56:08):
yeah i was like what i was i wasi was flabbergasted i was
flabbergasted and i was likewhat the fuck and i shit you not
my alarm goes off like rightafter all that happened and i
was like What just happened?
So I explained that to people.
They're like, it's probablysleep paralysis, whatever.

(01:56:30):
So the second time it happened,same thing.
I was sleeping, but it happenedearlier.
Happened at like two o'clock inthe morning.
And I was sleeping.
I was all like this, just outcold.
And I just got the feeling thatsomebody was watching me.
And I said, you got it.

(01:56:52):
You got it.
But like, literally, I'm justthinking as I'm waking up, I'm
like, no way.
I was like, no way it'shappening.
Like, it was like a month afterthe first.

UNKNOWN (01:57:02):
Wow.

SPEAKER_00 (01:57:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:57:03):
Yeah.
So I was like, no way.
Now, this is how I know it was ablack mass because I have a
stereo that's literally right ontop of this guy right here.
And it's got a red light.
on it.
And I could usually see the redlight from when I was laying
down.
I could see it.

(01:57:25):
So I opened my eyes because Iwas like, what the fuck is
staring at me?
Two o'clock in the morning.
Not cool.
And right next to my bed,standing right there.
Black mass.
Same black mass.
And I can't see the red light.
So I was like, that's solid.
That's a solid mass.
So I was like, I did the onlything I would...

(01:57:47):
I knew what to do.
Blanket over the head, right?
Like, you're safe.
You're

SPEAKER_03 (01:57:53):
safe.
You know what I'm

SPEAKER_02 (01:57:55):
saying?
I was like, I'm safe.

SPEAKER_03 (01:57:57):
It's like S-tier spooky armor.

SPEAKER_02 (01:58:00):
Protection.
Protection.
Exactly.
That's plot armor is what thatis.
So I throw the blanket over myhead, right?
I said, uh-uh.
And at that moment, from head totoe, once again, almost like,
you know, pins and needlesagain, like how you get when
your arm goes to sleep.

(01:58:22):
And I was like, fuck, I can'tmove.
And then it lasted shorter thanit did the first time.
And it went away.
And I did one of these.
I was like, okay, it's gone.
You know, so I was like, whatthe fuck?
At that point, I'm like, no waythat's a dream.

(01:58:42):
No way.
That's sleep paralysis.
First

SPEAKER_03 (01:58:45):
time you got to throw the blanket on the

SPEAKER_02 (01:58:46):
black mass.
No, because I think that wouldbe scarier.
Especially if it just stays.
If it stays.

SPEAKER_03 (01:58:55):
I'm not ready for the truth.
I'm good.

SPEAKER_02 (01:59:01):
I'm good.
I'm good.
I will pass.

SPEAKER_03 (01:59:02):
Now it's not a black mass.
You see a real cello.

SPEAKER_02 (01:59:06):
No! Yeah, and I lose my protection.
Like, I don't have my blanket.

SPEAKER_01 (01:59:14):
I gave up my shield.
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (01:59:15):
I gave

SPEAKER_01 (01:59:16):
up my plot armor.
Who's got

SPEAKER_03 (01:59:17):
without his shield?
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (01:59:19):
So that was the second time.
The third time, I wasn't even inthe house.
I went to Gatlinburg with agirlfriend of mine at the time.
And we were sleeping.
Again, it was about 2 o'clock,2.30 in the morning.
Now, at this point, I'm notbothered by it.

(01:59:42):
I'm more so curious.
But I shit you not, it was likea horror movie.
I was,

SPEAKER_03 (01:59:49):
buddy,

SPEAKER_02 (01:59:51):
just wait, just wait.
So, I'm like, I'm sleeping, andI get the same feeling.
Something's watching me.
And I was like, I'm inGatlinburg.
No way.
Right?
No way.
No way you're here.
Can't be.
Can't be.
Can't be.
Cap.
All cap.

SPEAKER_03 (02:00:10):
All cap.

SPEAKER_02 (02:00:11):
So I wake up, and Chris, again, I'm not bothered
at this point.
I woke up, opened my eyes, and Isat up a bit, just like this.
And it was almost like I knewexactly where to look.
And I just looked right in themirror that was...

(02:00:32):
down the hallway to thebathroom.
Like it was on this wall and youcould see the bathroom door.
It was standing in the mirror.

SPEAKER_03 (02:00:41):
See, I don't like that.
Yeah.
Mirrors are like little portaldimension.

SPEAKER_02 (02:00:46):
Hello.
Hello.

SPEAKER_03 (02:00:48):
Don't like

SPEAKER_02 (02:00:48):
them.
Yeah.
So I'm looking and I'm justlooking at it and I'm thinking,
and I wanted to say like, whatare you?
Right.
Right.
Like, those words wanted toleave my mouth.
But as soon as I wanted to saythat, whole body went numb.

SPEAKER_03 (02:01:07):
Bro, it's just playing with you.

SPEAKER_02 (02:01:09):
Right?
So I was like, and I'm juststaring at it.
And it lasted for a little bit.
And I looked over to see if mygirlfriend was awake.
She was not.
I went back to the mirror.
It was gone.

SPEAKER_01 (02:01:23):
Hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (02:01:31):
That's wild, dude.
Right.
Now, how long ago was the firstinteraction?

SPEAKER_02 (02:01:39):
Oh, it's been years.
It's been a long, long time.
If you had to put a number

SPEAKER_03 (02:01:43):
with your best guess.

SPEAKER_02 (02:01:50):
How old was I?
How old am I now?
38?
So probably 16 years ago.

SPEAKER_03 (02:01:57):
Okay.
16 years ago to present day, howmany weird interactions have you
had that were similar?

SPEAKER_02 (02:02:08):
A lot.

SPEAKER_03 (02:02:09):
Like, more than 10 a lot?

SPEAKER_02 (02:02:11):
Probably, yeah.
So, hang on, wait.
So, like, those kind ofinteractions...
I think there's only four.
I got one more to share.
And that

SPEAKER_03 (02:02:23):
was here.
Interesting that there's onlyfour.

SPEAKER_02 (02:02:27):
That was here.

SPEAKER_03 (02:02:27):
And at what time span?

SPEAKER_02 (02:02:30):
So the first time was like 9 o'clock in the
morning.
I mean

SPEAKER_03 (02:02:34):
like intervals.
So you said between the firstand the second

SPEAKER_02 (02:02:39):
was like a month.
And then the third one betweenthe second and third was
probably I'm trying to think.
I'd say probably six months,maybe seven.

SPEAKER_03 (02:02:54):
Okay.
And then between the third

SPEAKER_02 (02:02:58):
and the fourth?
Next one.
A couple of years.

SPEAKER_03 (02:03:02):
Very interesting.

SPEAKER_02 (02:03:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:03:06):
Yeah.
Any other weird things?
In

SPEAKER_02 (02:03:10):
between?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That

SPEAKER_03 (02:03:12):
weren't this specific black mass?

SPEAKER_02 (02:03:14):
Yes.
The story I just shared with youabout the apartment that was in
between all that.
Oh, yeah.
The story with my friend thatwas in between all that.
And I'm awake, okay?
I was awake during these times.
That's why I was like, no way.

(02:03:35):
No fucking way.
At that point, I'm notconvinced.

SPEAKER_03 (02:03:38):
It's interesting that And I want to hear the last
time that you interact with thismask.

SPEAKER_02 (02:03:43):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (02:03:46):
But I'm intrigued on why.
So how long ago would you saynumber four was between then and
present?
Like more than 10 years?
No.

SPEAKER_02 (02:04:01):
Maybe five, six years ago.
It was like literally the firstyear we moved in here.
In this house.

SPEAKER_03 (02:04:11):
Okay.
Yeah.
And it was like rinse andrepeat.
It was like two in the morning.
Woke you up or

SPEAKER_02 (02:04:19):
you want it?
You want it?
Yeah.
You want

SPEAKER_03 (02:04:21):
it?

SPEAKER_02 (02:04:23):
So the fourth interaction, very different,
very different.
And I thought it was weird.
So this happened at about four30, four 30.
No, Yeah, somewhere aroundthere.
Maybe like 440.
Closer.
Closer to when my alarm wasgoing to go off.

(02:04:44):
So I'm sleeping.
Always happens when I'msleeping.
And I get that same feeling.
Somebody's watching me.
And I was like, bruh.
I was upset.
I was kind of mad.
Like, not going to lie.
Because I was like, no way.

(02:05:06):
And I looked at my phone.
I seen what time it was.
And it was like, I'm pretty sureit was 440 because it was a few
minutes before my alarm wentoff.
And I was like, bruh.
So it wasn't at my door.
It was at the foot of my bed.
And for the first time ever,it's moving.

(02:05:29):
And it's running like back andforth at the foot of my bed,
like very rapid.
And for the first time ever, Iwas able to speak to it.

SPEAKER_03 (02:05:44):
Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 (02:05:45):
Because I was like, I didn't ask questions.
I mean, I did, but I didn't.

SPEAKER_03 (02:05:52):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (02:05:52):
Because I was like, what are you doing?
That's all I could think of.
I was like, I'm trying to sleep.
Rolled back over.
Still felt like it was staringat me.
I was like, bro, come on.
I got, like, I'm mad, right?
Like, I'm pissed because I wantto go to sleep, right?

(02:06:15):
And I was like, just stop.
Try to go back.
Again, still there.
So I was like, hey, because ithit me.
And I was like, I'm talking toit.
I've never gotten this far.
I was like, what?
What?
Way?

(02:06:35):
Why?
Why?
And suddenly, again, almost likeI knew where to look.
Again, it's moving like fuckingfast as fuck, boy.
It looked like Flash at the footof my bed.
And I was like, something elseis in the room.

(02:06:58):
I felt two.
Ah.
And I was like, There'ssomething else here.
And again, like I knew where tolook, I just so happened to look
literally right here on thiswall that I'm sitting next to.
It's hard to explain, and I'venever seen anything like it

(02:07:20):
before, but it stood from thefloor to the ceiling.
I could see it.
It wasn't a black mass.
It was like a light.
kind of grayish but it was darkso you know what i mean similar
to the color of your vecnabehind you

SPEAKER_03 (02:07:44):
interesting

SPEAKER_02 (02:07:45):
it was very tall very thin like i mean real thin
arms that reached all the way tothe ground and some slenderman
shit kind of but it had hair ifyou can imagine the ring Like
the girl with the long hair.
And it went all the way to thefloor.

(02:08:05):
Now that one, I was like, you'rea big motherfucker.
That was my first thought.
I was like, you're huge.
And I was literally, for somereason, I was just like, I
wanted to ask, what the fuck areyou?
And when I tried, I was frozenagain.

SPEAKER_03 (02:08:31):
So whatever the other one was, you could talk to
it.

SPEAKER_02 (02:08:33):
I could talk to it.
But whatever that one

SPEAKER_03 (02:08:36):
appeared, I

SPEAKER_02 (02:08:39):
was like, what?
Now, Chris, this is where it gotstrange.
I got I got mad again because,mind you, I was trying to sleep.
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (02:08:53):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (02:08:54):
And now I'm pissed because I'm like, I was just
able to talk to this thing.
Why can't I talk to you?
So I got, I felt very angry.
And again, I had the pins andneedles, but somehow, some way,
I was kind of like shaking itoff.

(02:09:17):
And I was like, I was kind ofgrowling in a way.
And then I was just yelling atthis thing.
And then I heard, I heard it.
Now, I don't know if it actuallyhappened or not.
But I heard it.
I heard my tone change.
My voice.

(02:09:37):
Because in my head, I was like,that's not me.

SPEAKER_03 (02:09:41):
Interesting.
Do you think it was channelingthrough you?

SPEAKER_02 (02:09:45):
Maybe.
I don't know if it was the newguy or the old guy.
Because why else would he or itchange?
Whatever it is.
Just be going nuts.
Could it have been warning meabout something?

SPEAKER_03 (02:10:05):
I'm trying to wake you up before he got there.

SPEAKER_02 (02:10:07):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (02:10:08):
But why?
Why all of a sudden theappearance?

SPEAKER_02 (02:10:12):
I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (02:10:12):
Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 (02:10:14):
Couldn't tell you.
Could not tell you.
But that was the last.
So after all that, again, I wasthinking I was like, that's not
me.
That's not my voice.
And it went on for 30 seconds.
I didn't know I had that kind oflung capacity.
And everything went black.

(02:10:35):
And then my alarm went off.
And I just woke up like businessas usual.
Like I was unbothered.

SPEAKER_03 (02:10:43):
And there was no one else in the house?

SPEAKER_02 (02:10:46):
So there were two other people in the house
upstairs.
They

SPEAKER_03 (02:10:51):
didn't hear you?

SPEAKER_02 (02:10:51):
They never said anything.

SPEAKER_03 (02:10:57):
I'm not going to lie.
If I heard screaming coming fromsomewhere in the house.
Hello.
Hello.

SPEAKER_02 (02:11:03):
I wouldn't want to.
Yeah.
That early.
I wouldn't want to.
Yeah.
That early in the morning.
That's a game.
Yeah.
No shit.
So that was the last interactionthat I had.

SPEAKER_03 (02:11:15):
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 (02:11:15):
That was like that.
Yeah.
So have I had

SPEAKER_03 (02:11:19):
other experiences since then?
Just not like that.

SPEAKER_02 (02:11:22):
Yeah.
Now, here we go.
You ready?
One just happened.
Two days ago.
Oh,

SPEAKER_03 (02:11:29):
shit.

SPEAKER_02 (02:11:31):
Breaking news.
Update.
Update.
I was sitting here playing GranTurismo and I shit you not, it
sounded like little feet runningin the hallway.
I thought it was my nephew.
That's what it sounded like.
I heard it just like and it cameto my door.

(02:11:54):
It made me stop And I look.
Huh.
Nobody came in.
I was like.
That's that little dancer.
Bro, I was like.
Little

SPEAKER_03 (02:12:03):
dancer boy.

SPEAKER_02 (02:12:04):
I was like, okay.
So I went back to playing anddriving.
I heard it again.
Nobody came in.
I was like, okay.
I'm just going to ignore this.

UNKNOWN (02:12:15):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:12:17):
Let me turn the radio up.

SPEAKER_02 (02:12:23):
No problems if I can't hear it.
I just kept driving and I said,nope, I'm not investigating.
I'm just going to keep moving.
That's all I'm doing.

SPEAKER_03 (02:12:34):
That's crazy work,

SPEAKER_02 (02:12:35):
dude.
It's little things like thatthat I experience throughout the
day and other shit like that.
I've had several accounts that

SPEAKER_03 (02:12:47):
are like that crazy opinion

SPEAKER_02 (02:12:52):
okay

SPEAKER_03 (02:12:55):
what if it's not one thing following you oh here we
go what if you're sensitive toyour like paranormal
surroundings and there's likewherever you're at if there's

(02:13:16):
something there, like it may noteven be trying to reach out to
you specifically, but you justsense its existence.
Maybe.
That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 (02:13:26):
I mean, so, and, and Yeti can attest to this.
We did have an experience whenwe were younger, like very
young, like our whole familydid.
Um, and no, like it was, it wasfucking crazy, but

SPEAKER_03 (02:13:42):
no,

SPEAKER_02 (02:13:44):
like my mom, used to say when like I was like maybe
four five years old she saidthat I would stand at the bottom
of the stairs and I would justbe bawling like crying my eyes
out I would be afraid to goupstairs and I would constantly
say Chucky standing at the topof the stairs and she wouldn't

(02:14:07):
see anything but I did

SPEAKER_03 (02:14:09):
hmm Now, do you remember these memories?
I don't.
Or have you been regurgitatedthem?
I don't.
So people have told you, okay,so you don't remember seeing a
Chucky.

SPEAKER_02 (02:14:20):
I don't.
You just know that, yeah.
I'm willing to bet.
Do you think

SPEAKER_03 (02:14:24):
it's in there, though?
I'm willing to bet.
Do you think you'vetrauma-blocked it?

SPEAKER_02 (02:14:28):
I'm willing to bet.
If I did some kind oftherapy-type deal where they
unlock parts of yourconsciousness, it's probably up
there.
I can almost guarantee you.

SPEAKER_03 (02:14:43):
Would you do it?

SPEAKER_02 (02:14:43):
How did I know you were going to ask

SPEAKER_03 (02:14:50):
that?
Bro, also, side note, bestepisode ever.
This has been the greatest

SPEAKER_02 (02:15:00):
interview ever.
You're welcome.
Would I?
Would I do it?
Probably.
I probably would.
Just to know.
what's up there.
Cause like you said, my brain,especially at the, that young of
an age, the human body does somany things to protect itself.

(02:15:24):
And if that was traumatizing tome as a child, you know what I
mean?
So I wouldn't, I wouldn't doubt.
Now here's going to be thequestion.
If I do that and unlock that,what floodgates then open up?

SPEAKER_03 (02:15:43):
Yeah, like, do you fucking get superpowers?
Like, is this how we turn thetide?
Is this a story we've beenwaiting

SPEAKER_02 (02:15:55):
for?
Is this an origin story?
What's happening right now?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know if, like you said,is it possible that it's not
just, like you said, one thingfollowing me.
It's just like a multitude ofshit.
You could be

SPEAKER_03 (02:16:14):
Constantine for all we know.
I

SPEAKER_02 (02:16:17):
don't know if I want that job.

SPEAKER_03 (02:16:19):
That's

SPEAKER_02 (02:16:22):
fair.
I'm not saying it's a goodthing.
I don't know.
I don't know if I want that.
But again, let me say this.
We're

SPEAKER_03 (02:16:29):
the Supernatural Bros, dude.
You need a car.
You

SPEAKER_02 (02:16:32):
have a rabbit.
I do.
I do.
It'd be like supernatural.
Yeah, supernatural.
Yeah.
Jesus Christ.
Chris.

SPEAKER_03 (02:16:45):
I'm saying, bro.

SPEAKER_02 (02:16:45):
No, I'm with you.
It's just, I don't know.
I don't know.
Again, I don't know what thatwould look like.
I don't know.
Now I feel

SPEAKER_03 (02:16:52):
like we need to go to the Oregon Ghost Conference
that I went to a couple yearsago.
I

SPEAKER_02 (02:16:57):
love that kind of

SPEAKER_03 (02:16:58):
stuff.
We should, because I...
That would actually be fun.
I don't even need to go as avendor.
Like we could just go.
Yeah.
Cause I remember there beinglike, you know, tarot card
reader type people.
I went on a couple of ghosttours, you know, throughout the
little city town or whatever.
And, uh, yeah, there's like,there's people there that claim

(02:17:23):
to be like mediums and shit likethat.
Like,

SPEAKER_01 (02:17:26):
yeah.

UNKNOWN (02:17:27):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:17:29):
I don't know.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 (02:17:31):
Because where did we go?
Waverly Hills.
We went there one year.
And that was interesting, seeinga lot of shit there, like shadow
people.
I just

SPEAKER_03 (02:17:44):
got the craziest idea.
Oh, boy.

SPEAKER_02 (02:17:46):
You know, if you're going to say what I think you're

SPEAKER_03 (02:17:49):
going to say.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 (02:17:51):
Say it.

SPEAKER_03 (02:17:52):
Say

SPEAKER_02 (02:17:54):
it.

SPEAKER_03 (02:17:55):
We

SPEAKER_02 (02:17:56):
should go to Waverly Hills.

SPEAKER_03 (02:17:58):
No, no.
What if we went to famous hotspots?

SPEAKER_02 (02:18:06):
I'm all for it.
Say less.

SPEAKER_03 (02:18:12):
Just places where people have definitely famously.
Just places that we know.
Like Gettysburg.
Gettysburg is 100% haunted.

SPEAKER_01 (02:18:22):
Yeah.
I agree.

SPEAKER_03 (02:18:23):
Or Salem Witch Trials.

SPEAKER_02 (02:18:27):
Yep.
Go up to Salem.

SPEAKER_03 (02:18:29):
Yeah.
Go somewhere where some shit'sbeen happening.

SPEAKER_02 (02:18:33):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 (02:18:33):
And then we can test the theory of are you sensitive
to the supernatural or is it aspecific thing?
I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 (02:18:43):
I don't know.
That would be interesting.
Also, are

SPEAKER_03 (02:18:45):
you even interested in following this journey?

SPEAKER_02 (02:18:47):
I'm pushing you into something.
No.
So I've always been...
into that kind of stuff like isaid i loved ghost hunters ghost
adventures wasn't my cup of teaum because zach baggins is
always like oh what was that ohgod i i bet it was paranormal
like ghost hunters sorry againpissed off a whole community um

(02:19:14):
ghost hunters yeah ghost huntersi enjoyed because they looked to
debunk things like make sense ofit because if you can Cool.
Like, you don't have to jump to,okay, I can explain this away.
Not a problem.
But if I can't, all right, nowwe got to look further into it.

(02:19:35):
Because when we went to Waverly.
That's what I like.
Yes.
That's what I like.
That's why I appreciated GhostHunters so much.

SPEAKER_03 (02:19:42):
So now let me ask this because I am a bit of a
paranormal and supernaturalnovice.
What is the significance toWaverly?

SPEAKER_02 (02:19:53):
So Waverly was a sanatorium many, many moons ago
where they took tuberculosispatients to try to cure them.
So it was a

SPEAKER_03 (02:20:05):
site where a lot of people have died.

SPEAKER_02 (02:20:06):
A lot of people died.

SPEAKER_03 (02:20:07):
Yes.

SPEAKER_02 (02:20:09):
And they're pretty sure they're still there.
No one left.
No one left.
Like a roach motel.
I'm just kidding.
I'm joking.
I'm joking.
Okay.
But no, like they do want toturn it into a hotel eventually.
And I'm like, I want to do theovernight before that happens.

SPEAKER_03 (02:20:33):
Oh, can you do an overnight?
Yes, you can.
Yes, you can.
Like for freezies?

SPEAKER_02 (02:20:38):
No, it's pay.
You got to

SPEAKER_03 (02:20:40):
pay.
Okay.
Yeah, you got to pay.
Now, is it guided or is itself-guided?

SPEAKER_02 (02:20:44):
So they have two.
They have two.
They have one that is guided.
And I think that one's only sixhours.
But if you do the full night,that's eight hours full
overnight.
They will give you a quick tourand then it's you have fun.

SPEAKER_03 (02:21:00):
Now, would you do that?
Yes.
By yourself?
Yeah.
Or would you rather it beguided?
Or would you do both?

SPEAKER_02 (02:21:07):
So the problem with that is it's expensive.
It's$1,000 because I think theminimum you can take is 10
people.
which divide that up by 10, it's$100 a person.
Not too bad.
But if you do go by yourself, itis.
But if you do go by yourself,you have to cover the fee.

(02:21:30):
So I'm paying$1,000 out ofpocket just to go by myself.
That's for the overnight.
That's for the overnight.
The unguided.
It is.
I believe.
I have to look into it.
Their prices could have raised.
I don't

SPEAKER_03 (02:21:44):
know.
I would want to do the unguidedby myself first.
Yep.
Well, not by myself, but withyou and a couple other people.
Like with a crew.
By ourselves.
Do that one night and then comeback the next night or a couple
nights from then.
Probably the next night forlogistics purposes.

(02:22:06):
And then do the guided thing.
Because I feel like if you startwith the guided and then you do
it, there could be somepreconceived ideas

SPEAKER_01 (02:22:13):
implanted.

UNKNOWN (02:22:14):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:22:15):
But if I go in raw and I have no preconceived
information from some guy that'sbeing paid to tell me things, I
think I'd have a more honest andauthentic experience.

SPEAKER_02 (02:22:31):
So, I will say...

SPEAKER_03 (02:22:33):
Because our brains are powerful.

SPEAKER_02 (02:22:35):
I know, but I will say we did the two-hour guided
tour.
And...
Off jump from the rip before thetour even got started.
We were standing in a stairwell.
Mind you, middle of July,hottest fucking day of the

(02:22:55):
summer.
And no breeze, nothing.
We're standing in this stairwellwaiting to go to the next area
or whatever.
And all of a sudden, I'm like,y'all, I'm cold.
And they're like, what do youmean?
I was like, like the air aroundme is cold.
Like, it's colder than anywhereelse.

(02:23:19):
Man.
Now, I was with my mom, mysister, and my girlfriend of the
time.
And my mom was like, no way.
I was like, I shit you not.
And she felt it.
And she was like, it's cold.
I was like, yeah.
And it's everywhere.
Like, it was all around me.
I was like, I am cold.

(02:23:40):
In the middle of July.
I was like, I'm cold.
I wasn't sick.

SPEAKER_03 (02:23:44):
That's insane.

SPEAKER_02 (02:23:45):
Right?
And I felt that the entire timewe were there.
I felt cold the whole trip.

SPEAKER_03 (02:23:52):
Now, do you think the cold was following you
specifically?

SPEAKER_02 (02:23:56):
Probably.
Because they do say...
No

SPEAKER_03 (02:23:59):
one else knew it was cold until they got in your
zone.

SPEAKER_02 (02:24:02):
Right.
Because they do say if youexperience spikes in temperature
like that, a spirit could bepresent.
All kinds of stuff because it'strying to manifest.
So it's using the energy arounditself to try to manifest, show
itself, right, or do something.

(02:24:23):
So it'll use, like, the energyin the air.
So if it's hot, obviously it'sgoing to be cold because it's
trying to draw that energy fromthe heat and, you know, maybe
your body.
But all around me, I was like,bro, what?

SPEAKER_03 (02:24:41):
What?

UNKNOWN (02:24:42):
What?

SPEAKER_03 (02:24:43):
That's insane.
That's nuts.
Dude, this is all making methink, what if Monsters, Inc.
is low-key real?

SPEAKER_02 (02:24:52):
I wouldn't doubt it.
Hear

SPEAKER_03 (02:24:53):
me out.
Hear me out.
So, if entities need to use theenergy around them to manifest
their, let's say, powers ortheir presence, and the...
main driver would be our fear inmost cases okay because that's

(02:25:19):
why everything everything thathappens with the supernatural or
paranormal leans on the side oflike creepy right right um like
none of none of those thingsthat's ever happened has been
like oh this is a joy i lovethis you know um so like what if
like that fear factor is therelike fuel And then the

(02:25:41):
harnessing their energysurroundings is like them trying
to manipulate us to create thefear so then they have the power
to continue fearing us.

SPEAKER_02 (02:25:55):
So from my many years of studying and such,
again, I'm not an expert by anymeans.
I just dabble in it.
Certain entities, depending onwhat they are, why they're
there, if they are malevolent,yes, they will want to do things

(02:26:20):
just to frighten you, to kind ofmake you lose.
Right, yes.
And they kind of want to, again,they want to draw feed off of
that energy because it does, youknow, energy's real, man.
And and certain things need.
Yeah, it is.

(02:26:41):
It is.
Energy is real and it cannot bedestroyed, just transferred,
which is for me why I believe inwhat I believe in.
So, you know.
It is what it is.

SPEAKER_03 (02:26:54):
I know it wasn't supposed to be, but that shit
was philosophical.

SPEAKER_02 (02:26:57):
Sorry.
That's just for me.
Again, you believe whatever youwant to believe.
That's not me trying to convertyou to anything.
We have our own experiences.
We believe.
Again, whatever you believe in,stand on it.

(02:27:21):
Stand on.
Now, if something seems off andyou're like, and it does make
you kind of side-eye some thingsa little bit, yeah, look into
it.
Do your research.
Be informed, as they say.
So you're not just blindlyfollowing somebody or something.

(02:27:43):
But if everything checks out,stand on that shit.
Stand on it.
if not

SPEAKER_03 (02:27:49):
honestly a message that the world needs

SPEAKER_02 (02:27:52):
again like you said didn't mean to turn it into that
but

SPEAKER_03 (02:27:57):
yeah

SPEAKER_02 (02:27:58):
every moment for sure yeah every

SPEAKER_03 (02:28:00):
moment like each individual on this planet like
me you or the next person we'reall living with our own
perception yep And, like, forbetter or for worse, nobody can
honestly take that away from us.
Nope.
You know?
And that's just the cards.

(02:28:22):
It is.
Whatever I perceive, like,that's my truth.
Yeah, that's you.
Whatever you perceive, that'syour truth.
Exactly.
And it's all perception.
It is.

SPEAKER_02 (02:28:32):
And sometimes they run

SPEAKER_03 (02:28:34):
parallel.
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It's...
it's something I've come torealize lately is it's all, it's
all just like in, in layman'sterms, it's perspective.

SPEAKER_02 (02:28:49):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (02:28:50):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (02:28:51):
I'm with you.
I'm with you.
So yeah, that's, uh, I hope yougot what you needed for your
interview, Lois.
Hang on.
Well done.
For the joke.
I gave you more than enough.
I gave you more than enough.

(02:29:12):
I'm not an idiot, I know.
Solid film.
Yeah, it is.
It is fucking amazing.
But anyway, there you go.
I know we are way over time, butstories that are so crazy and
strange that you don't believethey're true.
That they don't sound true,right?

(02:29:34):
Um...
Yeah, if you see somethingstrange, it's always when you're
unprepared.
You don't have any recordingdevice, nothing to take
pictures, video, audio.
You're just viewing youreyeballs.

SPEAKER_03 (02:29:51):
Dude, imagine living in an...
Because humans have been aroundfor a long time.

SPEAKER_02 (02:29:56):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:29:57):
Like thousands of years at this point.

SPEAKER_02 (02:30:00):
Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 (02:30:01):
And I don't know that we really know what that
means.

SPEAKER_01 (02:30:05):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:30:06):
Like, that's a long time.
And there's likely a time beforetechnology, like recording
devices and shit.

SPEAKER_01 (02:30:15):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (02:30:17):
And some people may argue that there's always been
some sort of recording device.
Technology's always been around,right?
But I...
I would love to know what it waslike to live in a period where
all you had was living in themoment.

(02:30:39):
Like, truly living in themoment.
No recording device.
No phone.
No camera.
Just

SPEAKER_02 (02:30:46):
you and your

SPEAKER_03 (02:30:48):
eyeballs.
On one hand, you could speak tothe scary.
Oh, yeah.
Like, my security.
Yeah.
Well...
my argument to that is now youhave to be more aware for
yourself.
Yep.
Instead of, um, chalking it upfor other people to be aware for

(02:31:08):
you.
Um, but whether or not peoplebelieve these stories that were,
we were talking about today ornot, there was a time in history
where that's all people had wastheir story.

SPEAKER_02 (02:31:23):
Yep.
And your word meant something.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:31:26):
And it did.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (02:31:29):
Yeah.
That's, that's, I mean, again,think about it.
Like you just mentioned Salem,which trials, right?
They see, they see a girl orwoman, should I say?
And they're like, uh, she'slike, Oh, uh, you have a cough.
Here's some honey that willhandle that.
Wow.
Which, you know?

(02:31:53):
So it's like, it's like, andthat's word of mouth.
Like, If you were to do thattoday and somebody caught that
on film, oh, here's some honey.
Oh, well, we can now deconstructthis video.
It's honey.
Let's look up what honey does.
Oh, guess what?
It soothes your throat.

(02:32:14):
Oh, check it out.
It's a natural coughsuppressant.
Interesting.
They're just, you know, naturalremedies is what it is.
It's not witchcraft.

SPEAKER_03 (02:32:24):
And then those crazy people that were scared figured
out that those witches areactually just people.
Yeah, just people.
And then was like, hey, you wantto help take care of me?
Right.
Hey, yo, take me to dinner.
Hey, yo, hey, yo.

SPEAKER_02 (02:32:46):
So, I don't know.
People have...
We've done strange things as aspecies.
I don't know if being able tothink and problem solve...
I guess it's a double-edgedsword.
It can be good, but it can bereally bad.

SPEAKER_03 (02:33:10):
Yeah.
A common...
I feel like a common word thathas been brought up in my life
in the last 15 years is balance.

SPEAKER_02 (02:33:21):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (02:33:22):
Man, it's such an important word.
Balance is everything, man.
It is.
It is.

SPEAKER_02 (02:33:30):
I've never used that word so much until now, until I
got older.
My understanding balance and howimportant it is.
When you're young...
Nobody gives a fuck.
It's opposite ends of thespectrum.
Then you get older and you'relike, if I was more like this

(02:33:51):
and like this and like this andI balanced it out, probably
wouldn't have made all thedecisions that I did.
I don't know.
Anyway, I know we are way overtime.
If you got some stories you wantto share, share them.
Feel free.

(02:34:13):
We are...
Yeah, we're here for it.
Get in the comments.
Share them.
Have fun.
Speaking of fun.
Speaking of fun.
Do you want some fun in games,Chris?
I always want some fun in games.
Right?
I know it's just us two, but wecan still have this discussion

(02:34:36):
because it is option-based.
I'm going to give you fouroptions.
One of these has to go.

SPEAKER_03 (02:34:47):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (02:34:49):
All right.
We got Little Caesars.
We got Papa John's.
We've got Domino's.
And finally, Pizza Hut.
Which one you sending off?

SPEAKER_03 (02:35:12):
johns ah

SPEAKER_02 (02:35:14):
no oh no oh no why why papa johns what did he do to
you other than be a littleracist wait sorry for the

SPEAKER_03 (02:35:29):
joke enough said okay

SPEAKER_02 (02:35:35):
moving on

SPEAKER_03 (02:35:37):
yeah i mean it's it's i i feel like that's the
main reason okay and also umlike truly speaking the last
time i had papa john's pizza wasincredibly disappointing really
there was a point at which iranked papa john's very high on
the list of like chain pizzerias

SPEAKER_02 (02:36:00):
okay

SPEAKER_03 (02:36:01):
you know uh like when i was growing up my
grandparents they always like toorder papa john's mainly
probably because they were oneof the few that would actually
deliver all the way out to wherethey lived

SPEAKER_02 (02:36:13):
gotcha

SPEAKER_03 (02:36:13):
um because they were kind of out in the sticks but um
There were so many otheroptions.
We could have ordered Angelo's.
Shout out Angelo's.
Shout out Angelo's.
I'm pretty sure that's a verysmall chain.
Yeah, definitely.
Got like two links left.
Two links.
That's

SPEAKER_02 (02:36:34):
it.
That's

SPEAKER_03 (02:36:35):
it.
Also the name of my rapper.
Oh my God.
Two links.

SPEAKER_02 (02:36:41):
Two links, but I got a few on.

SPEAKER_03 (02:36:45):
God damn it.
But, yeah, like, we used to seePapa John's, and I love that
they would come with, like, thelittle pepperoncinis.
Okay.
I love that.
I love that pepperoncini game.
Yeah.
But then, like, Papa had to goand, like, be all

SPEAKER_02 (02:36:56):
weird.
Be all racist and

SPEAKER_03 (02:36:58):
stuff.
Yeah.
Like, why he gotta be all,like...
Why'd I say

SPEAKER_02 (02:37:03):
that?
He

SPEAKER_03 (02:37:04):
tried to be like Hulk Hogan and it just didn't

SPEAKER_02 (02:37:07):
pan out for him.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
You thought

SPEAKER_01 (02:37:12):
I was going to let him

SPEAKER_02 (02:37:13):
go?
I wasn't even going to bring itup.
I was like, we don't need totalk about him.

SPEAKER_01 (02:37:16):
No,

SPEAKER_02 (02:37:16):
I was like, we don't need to talk about him.
We don't need to talk

SPEAKER_01 (02:37:19):
about

SPEAKER_02 (02:37:21):
him.
He said, I brought the RPG.
Fuck a street sweeper.

SPEAKER_03 (02:37:28):
Not in my house.

SPEAKER_02 (02:37:29):
Not in my house.
He ain't getting away with this.
I get it.

SPEAKER_03 (02:37:34):
I feel like these chain restaurants in general,
companies in general, corporateAmerica in general.
Corporate America.
In the last 10, maybe 15 years.
Definitely the last 10 years.
I feel like they're justmanufacturing and production is
tanked.
Yeah.
And I think that comes all theway down to the food level.

UNKNOWN (02:37:53):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (02:37:53):
A lot of these companies low-key suck

SPEAKER_02 (02:37:56):
right now.
They do.
And they're expensive.
You raise your price, it's allbullshit.

SPEAKER_03 (02:38:01):
Oh my god.
You want to raise your price andlower your quality?
That's crazy.
That's crazy work.
The fuck?
Even Domino's.
I have two slices upstairs.
Shout out Domino's.
Hey, listen.
They're

SPEAKER_02 (02:38:18):
black

SPEAKER_03 (02:38:18):
box.
Dude.
What are we doing?

SPEAKER_02 (02:38:22):
I don't know.
Pizza

SPEAKER_03 (02:38:24):
isn't that hard.
Why are we doing this?

SPEAKER_02 (02:38:26):
It shouldn't be that

SPEAKER_03 (02:38:27):
hard,

SPEAKER_02 (02:38:28):
but...

SPEAKER_03 (02:38:29):
It's not a lot of ingredients.
No, I get it.
It's like water, yeast, flour,salt.
That's like the dough in time.
Time's the fifth ingredient ondough, and you can't even do
that?

SPEAKER_02 (02:38:44):
Terrible.
Fucking terrible.
Oh, shit.

SPEAKER_03 (02:38:48):
But I do like Domino's.
That's fair.
I do eat them, but it's purelyout of...
It's out

SPEAKER_02 (02:38:56):
of spite.
It's out of spite for PapaJohn's.

SPEAKER_03 (02:39:00):
Not really.
Actually, there's so many localchains in Seattle.
I wouldn't even call themchains.
There's just local pizzeriasthat I think are better than the
chain stuff.
It's just every now and then,you know, fucking...
mix two for$7.99.

SPEAKER_01 (02:39:19):
Okay,

SPEAKER_03 (02:39:20):
I got you.
It's hard to beat.
I hear you.
You get two pizzas for$30.
It's like, eh.

SPEAKER_02 (02:39:27):
It's not bad.
Can't

SPEAKER_03 (02:39:30):
complain.
You said out of those four, onehas to go.
I'm doubling down on Papa

SPEAKER_02 (02:39:36):
John's.

SPEAKER_03 (02:39:37):
And then if I did a mini ranking, it would be Pizza
Hut, Little Caesars, Domino's,Papa John's number four.

SPEAKER_02 (02:39:44):
Little Caesars over Domino's.

SPEAKER_03 (02:39:47):
Yeah, and I'll tell you why.
It's a price thing.

SPEAKER_02 (02:39:54):
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (02:39:54):
Like, what you're paying for and what you

SPEAKER_02 (02:39:57):
win.
What you're getting.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (02:39:59):

SPEAKER_02 (02:40:00):
All right, all right, all right.
I can get behind that.

SPEAKER_03 (02:40:03):
Like, Domino's is a better pizza than Little
Caesars, but for the price...
Little Caesars got him beat

SPEAKER_02 (02:40:11):
on that.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
I'll give that to you.
I'll give that

SPEAKER_03 (02:40:15):
to you.

SPEAKER_02 (02:40:16):
Yeah.
Okay.
That's

SPEAKER_03 (02:40:16):
a pure business decision.

SPEAKER_02 (02:40:18):
That is.

SPEAKER_03 (02:40:19):
I

SPEAKER_02 (02:40:21):
looked at my wallet for that decision.

SPEAKER_03 (02:40:24):
Yeah, dude.
This is a corporate meeting and

SPEAKER_02 (02:40:30):
I'm on a budget.
Falling on a budget.
He said, fuck flavor right now.
How much money can you save me?
Fuck that.
Honestly, honestly, for me,Little Caesars gotta go.
For me, Little Caesars gotta go.

(02:40:50):
I've never, like, the only timeI had Little

SPEAKER_03 (02:40:53):
Caesars.

SPEAKER_02 (02:40:55):
So, no.
So, no.
No.
Oh, no, no, no.
Little Caesars was big back inthe day, like when we grew up.
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (02:41:10):
You used to dine in.

SPEAKER_02 (02:41:11):
Yes, used to dine in for Little Caesars.
Did that with the press.
Exactly.
And I just remember we'd getLittle Caesars, go to
Blockbuster, Hollywood Video,whatever it was.
Come on now.
And that would be...
friday night right like that'sthat's what i remember but right
now little caesars i never gothere ever i haven't had i

(02:41:37):
haven't had little caesarsprobably since i was a kid

SPEAKER_03 (02:41:41):
i

SPEAKER_02 (02:41:41):
just have no desire to go there because there are so
many other

SPEAKER_03 (02:41:45):
needs to really go there

SPEAKER_02 (02:41:47):
there isn't unless honestly unless you are balling
on a budget and you're like Giveme that.
I

SPEAKER_03 (02:41:53):
don't go there as often as it sounds like I do
from raking them.

SPEAKER_02 (02:41:56):
No, I get it.
I get it.
I get it.
But you go there enough to knowthat they are more affordable
than Dominos.

SPEAKER_03 (02:42:03):
There's not a close one here in Seattle.
Really?
I got to drive 30 minutesminimum.

SPEAKER_02 (02:42:10):
Not for Little Caesars.

SPEAKER_03 (02:42:11):
Which is why the only time we get Little Caesars
is if we out and about

SPEAKER_02 (02:42:17):
and

SPEAKER_03 (02:42:17):
we get a whiff of that garlicky cardboard.

SPEAKER_02 (02:42:22):
And we're like, ooh, I could go

SPEAKER_03 (02:42:23):
for some shit pizza right now.
Okay, listen, chat.
I'm talking to the audienceright now.
We all know that you have thatone food that is absolutely
shit.
but you crave it because it'sgot fucking chemicals in it.
I mean, yeah.
Yeah.
They got me.

(02:42:45):
They got me.

SPEAKER_02 (02:42:47):
Gotcha bitch.
Nah, but nah, I get it.
I get it.
Cause there is like, likeraising canes for me is probably
that one thing.
Cause I hate their chicken.
I think their chicken is theworst chicken.

SPEAKER_03 (02:43:04):
It's incredibly mid.

SPEAKER_02 (02:43:07):
It's disrespectfully mid.

SPEAKER_03 (02:43:11):
It's giving...
No, I shouldn't say it.
I won't say it.
It's giving...
No, because I don't know if I'mright.

SPEAKER_02 (02:43:17):
Say it!

SPEAKER_03 (02:43:19):
Where did Raising Cane's come from?

SPEAKER_02 (02:43:21):
Oh, I don't know.
Somewhere in Georgia.
That's a guess.

SPEAKER_03 (02:43:28):
If that's true, it might make my argument
Coldwater.

SPEAKER_02 (02:43:33):
Oh, here we go.
Why should it be Tennessee?
Something stupid.

SPEAKER_03 (02:43:39):
Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

SPEAKER_02 (02:43:41):
Louisiana.
How?
That, no.
That's what

SPEAKER_03 (02:43:47):
it says.

SPEAKER_02 (02:43:48):
No, they were kicked out of Louisiana.
That's what happened.
They didn't start there.
Okay, they started there, butthey got kicked out because they
said that's disrespectful.
I don't know.
I'm just saying, how are youfrom Louisiana and you have the
blandest chicken ever made?

(02:44:09):
You know what it tastes like?
You know what it tastes like,Chris?
It tastes like somebody seasonedthe chicken, washed it, and then
breaded it.

SPEAKER_03 (02:44:19):
When did Okay, so Raising Cane's came around in
1996.
Okay.
Okay, I can finish what I wasgoing to say.
Raising Cane's chicken, theirsauce, great.
The little breadstick Texastoast thing, love it.
The chicken tastes like a whiteguy went to Popeye's and said,

(02:44:42):
let me try that.

SPEAKER_02 (02:44:44):
Thank you.
Thank you.
That chicken is...
I literally just had thisdiscussion with somebody today
because one of my techs, he waseating.
I was like, what you eating inthere?
He's like, canes.
I was like, that's disgusting.
He said, what do you mean?
It's really

SPEAKER_00 (02:45:00):
good.
I

SPEAKER_02 (02:45:02):
was like, what?
You like canes?
He was like, well, it's thesauce.
I was like, that right there iswhy canes is trash.
The sauce shouldn't make Thechicken.
Never.
Ever.
Should never.
Your chicken should havesomething to say.

(02:45:22):
The sauce should complement it.
That's how it always should be.
Always.
But because they bank on thatsauce, they don't give a fuck
about that chicken.
I can't believe that they bredtheir own chicken and they fail
that bad.

SPEAKER_03 (02:45:39):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (02:45:40):
There's no way.
There's no way.
No

SPEAKER_03 (02:45:42):
way.
Looking at you, Todd Graves.

SPEAKER_02 (02:45:44):
Yeah.
So but just to finish up theconversation, if I did have to
do like like what you said, amini, you know, mini ranking.
Yeah, mini ranking.
I'd probably rank it.
I'd say.
I'd say Pizza Hut.

(02:46:08):
Papa John's simply for thegarlic sauce.
Love the garlic sauce.
Their garlic sauce slaps.
Yes.
Yes.
It

SPEAKER_03 (02:46:19):
slaps.
For

SPEAKER_02 (02:46:22):
whatever reason.
Doesn't matter the pizza.
I think it's just

SPEAKER_03 (02:46:24):
a garlic butter, but it's not real butter.
It must have some real butter init, though.
Because it does get thicker?
Yeah, it does get thicker.
So I bet you it has a percentageof real butter, but it's not
mostly butter.
I think it's mostly an oil.

SPEAKER_02 (02:46:39):
Yeah, because when it's hot, that's basically what
it

SPEAKER_03 (02:46:42):
looks like.

UNKNOWN (02:46:44):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (02:46:44):
It looks more watery than anything.
That garlic sauce slaps, andthen I'd probably say Domino's,
then Little Caesars.
Again, Little Caesars, I justdon't do it.
Domino's, give me that blackbox.
Give me the black box.

SPEAKER_03 (02:47:02):
Give me the black box.
What's the black box aboutagain?
I

SPEAKER_02 (02:47:07):
believe it's like they're hand-tossed or something
like that.
The crust is really good, and Ithink it's brushed with like a
garlic garlic butter on thecrust.
They got

SPEAKER_03 (02:47:20):
like a stuffed crust thing going on right now.
Do they?
That's what I got sittingupstairs.

SPEAKER_02 (02:47:24):
Bro, I'm hungry.
I'm hungry.
So we're gonna have to wrap thisup.
Because it's late and I need

SPEAKER_03 (02:47:32):
to eat.
In lieu of that, I want to shoutout one group of people.
Go for it.
All the food scientists, man.
Hell yeah.
The food people thatsometimes...
It's for the worse.
But oftentimes, I think they'redoing it for the better of
humanity.
And without them, we'd all behunting and gathering.
So

SPEAKER_02 (02:47:52):
thank you, food scientists.
Or we'll be trying to make Cokeflavors, and they taste like
ass.
So with that being said,brother, with that being said,
we'll close this out.
Do you want a fun fact?

SPEAKER_03 (02:48:13):
Always.

SPEAKER_02 (02:48:16):
Did you know that the world's oldest dog lived to
be 29 and a half years old?

SPEAKER_03 (02:48:39):
Please tell me his name was Shaggy.

SPEAKER_02 (02:48:41):
Zoinks! So, What's the longest a dog can live for?
It's a dog's life, but how longit lasts depends on a number of
factors, including size andbreed.
I think we all know that.
True, true, true.

(02:49:01):
True, true.
Facts, facts.
The median lifespan of dogs isthought to be 10 to 13 years.
But the figure variessignificantly depending on the
breed and a number of otherfactors.
The oldest dog who ever lived,an Australian cattle dog named

(02:49:22):
Bluey, survived to an age of 29and a half.
Now I'm curious...
Is the show bluey based offof...
Anyway, you analyze that.
There is a surprising amount ofresearch into the lifespan of
very good boys.

(02:49:44):
The Dog Aging Project is anongoing canine health study in
the United States that aims tounderstand how genes, lifestyle,
and environment influence agingin man's best friend.
Its research suggests the mediansurvival time is actually a
little over 15 years.
It found little differencebetween males and females, but

(02:50:04):
small breeds typically livelonger.
Mm-hmm.

(02:50:25):
attributed to the same selectivebreeding that led to its large
wrinkly heads.
Its average lifespan is betweenfive to six years, thought to be
the shortest of any breed.
Research like the Dog AgingProject is primarily conducted
to increase the health span ofour canine friends, the number
of years they spend free ofdisease.

(02:50:47):
But there's also something in itfor humans.
Dogs are thought to be a goodmodel for human aging because
they suffer some of the sameailments that we do in later
years, such as obesity,diabetes, and arthritis.
It's hoped that a betterunderstanding of how dogs age
will eventually help humans tolive longer, more healthful

(02:51:08):
lives.
That's got to be worth at leasta treat, right?

SPEAKER_03 (02:51:14):
Nice.
You know what?
You deserve that cookie.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank

SPEAKER_02 (02:51:23):
you.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 (02:51:26):
Thank you.
My man.
No, that's crazy.
29 and a half years

SPEAKER_02 (02:51:32):
old.
29 and a half years old.
That's an old dog.
29?

SPEAKER_03 (02:51:34):
29?

SPEAKER_02 (02:51:34):
29?
That's an old dog, though.

SPEAKER_03 (02:51:38):
That's an old dog.
My dog, Daisy, is a young, ripe13 years old.
There you go.

UNKNOWN (02:51:45):
Um...

SPEAKER_03 (02:51:47):
Which, there's two hard truths.
One is she's getting one daycloser to no longer being here.

SPEAKER_01 (02:51:58):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (02:51:59):
And two, because she's 13, she's above the
threshold at which Donald Trumpwouldn't be with

SPEAKER_02 (02:52:05):
a person.
Oh, damn.
For the Joe.
Sorry.
For the Joe.
It's for the Epstein.
We have...
For the Joe.
Like, we have been on a rollthis episode.

SPEAKER_03 (02:52:20):
I don't know if that last one will make it, but

SPEAKER_02 (02:52:23):
I just saw my shot.
It's making it.
It's making it.
But no, that's...
Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 (02:52:31):
But yeah, dude, like, watching a dog age...

SPEAKER_02 (02:52:34):
It's tough.
It's tough.
It

SPEAKER_03 (02:52:37):
was easier when I was a kid because I didn't have
to understand it all

SPEAKER_02 (02:52:40):
the way.
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (02:52:41):
Like, I understood it.
I knew what was happening.

SPEAKER_01 (02:52:44):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (02:52:44):
But I didn't have to be as attached to it because I
wasn't the one responsible fortaking care of it.
It's different.
I just had to play with afriend,

SPEAKER_01 (02:52:52):
right?

SPEAKER_03 (02:52:54):
But now, I've raised Daisy for all 13 years of her
life.
Yep.
Minus the first eight monthsbefore I adopted her.
Mm-hmm.
And...
This year, she had her toeamputated because it was a weird

(02:53:15):
ingrown wart situation under hertoe or whatever.
And she was just not having agood time.
We didn't know what was goingon.
She always had this nail thatwas growing weird.
But, yeah, she had to get hertoe amputated.
And then, like, now she's, like,having arthritis issues.
Damn.
And, like, she's full-blown asenior.
But, like, I got a grandma.

SPEAKER_02 (02:53:36):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (02:53:36):
Walking around the house.

SPEAKER_02 (02:53:38):
Yep.

SPEAKER_03 (02:53:38):
In the form of a dog.
You know?
And it's just...
There's no user manual.

SPEAKER_02 (02:53:46):
Okay.
Like, that's facts.
Like, facts.
But I heard it from...
Who was it?
Elvis Duran.
Shout out to Elvis Duran.
Because when I found him, when Istarted working in Dayton,
instantly fell in love with hisshow.

(02:54:08):
But he does point out, for dogs,we are their entire life.
We're their entire life.
So whatever dog you have, youknow you're outliving it.
Hopefully.
Yeah.
If you're living right, you'regoing to outlive your dog.

(02:54:29):
Remember that conversation wewere having about the sunsets
and not seeing relatively...
It's weird

SPEAKER_03 (02:54:39):
how things come full circle like

SPEAKER_02 (02:54:41):
that.
Just like the planet going fullcircle.
Whoa.
What?
That's crazy, dude.
It's crazy, bro.
The earth is not flat.
And on that, we will end.
Pissed off another community.

SPEAKER_03 (02:55:07):
You thought this was a regular Friday?
It's not.

SPEAKER_02 (02:55:13):
We came strapped.
We came to fight.

SPEAKER_03 (02:55:16):
This is what happens when you leave unintended.

SPEAKER_02 (02:55:21):
It's exactly what happens.
They're just the two of us.
We're in trouble.
We are in trouble.
So we'll go ahead and wrap thisup because it is late and I got
to eat and get over to Yeti'shouse to watch his dogs because
I'm sure they're like, where thefuck is everybody?
So with that being said, don'tforget.

(02:55:43):
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(02:56:07):
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Give it a go.
But until then, we don't reallyhave anything to plug for our
next episode.
So I'm sure we will come up withsomething that's going to be
interesting to talk about.
We haven't had a guest in a longtime.

SPEAKER_03 (02:56:32):
Maybe that's the move.

SPEAKER_02 (02:56:33):
I'm going to try.
I'm going to talk to somebodyand see if they're willing and
ready.
Because if they're ready, I'dlike to get them on the show.

SPEAKER_03 (02:56:44):
Okay, word.

SPEAKER_02 (02:56:46):
And yeah, I think that might be what we do.
I'll talk to them this weekend,see how they're feeling.
But until then, Grizz, say ta-tato your fans.

UNKNOWN (02:57:03):
Bye!

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You can dance if you want to.

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SPEAKER_02 (02:57:14):
about that.
There was a plague involved.
I can't do that.
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