Under Pressure

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SPEAKER_00 (00:03):
Welcome everyone, coming to you directly from the
luxurious OLR Studios, this isTempleton.
Where is Las Vegas?
This is Sweet Baby Jay.
Can I see what you just saidwritten on paper?
This is Melina.
It is the biggest spider I'veever seen in my life.
This is Grizz.
After this, I'm going to get offhere and I'm going to dragon
them balls.
This is the Arrogant Yeti.

(00:25):
At least I know 2 plus 2 is 5.
And this is the FMJ Podcast.
Alright, let's go ahead and getthis show on the road.
We're all here now.
Ready to rock and roll!Everybody knows what today's
topic is, yeah?

(00:46):
Buttholes?
Meal plans.
Welcome back to anotherwonderful episode of the FMJ
Podcast, where we make all ofyour wildest fantasies come
true.
I'm just kidding, we don't dothat.
Unless...
You offer...
Grizz a spot on your hockeyteam.

(01:11):
Come on, let's go.
And give him one reach around.
So we'll go around the room realquick.
Get everybody's pulse.
Melina will not be joining usfor this episode, so hopefully
she's doing okay.
But we'll start with...
You know what?
Grizz, we'll start with you,buddy.

(01:31):
Since I heard on the street youare looking for a hockey team.
Well, here's the thing.
I skateboard, but I have not iceskated.
Oh, okay.
But, if you're willing to take arisk on it, I could probably be

(01:54):
a water boy.
Let's go.
I've seen the movie.
I know alligators.
They brush their teeth.
So, mama said.
They got all the teeth and notoothbrush.
Yeah, I mean, my pulse is good.
I...
I'm a little tired.
Um, I, I had to work a PM shiftyesterday and an AM shift today

(02:19):
because of some call outs, butit was worth it because I'm, I'm
here today.
So let's get it.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All and, and, uh, speaking ofskateboards, um, I'm not going
to show it.
I showed it earlier, but I didbuy a new skateboard recently.

(02:39):
Um, It's like a land yacht typeof situation, you know?
Like, not a trick board, just acruiser.
And it has a bottle opener onit, so it's pretty sick.
Okay, okay.
No, you did show it, and itlooks pretty dope.
Like, I'm kind of jealous that Idon't skateboard, so I can't get

(03:02):
one like that, you know what Imean?
Yeah, you should get one.
Where's the picture at?
I would hurt myself.
I must have missed it.
What picture?
Hold on.
Fuck it.
He held it up for the class.
He's going to grab it.
Oh.
Oh, no.
Everything went to shit.
Everything that went to shit.
Man down.
Man down.
Yo, is that a dildo?
Yeah, don't mind that.

(03:23):
Hey, stop looking at it.
He said, let me kick that under.
Not me literally just likegiving up on this bit right now.
He said, he said, he said.
You weren't supposed to seethat.
He said, not me giving up onthis bit right now.
Yeah, that's what it soundslike.

(03:44):
See, Yeti asked for too much.
Where's the picture?
I did.
We didn't say picture.
We said he showed it earlier,and that's why he wasn't going
to show it again.
But there you go.
Oh, that is pretty dope.
Yeah, that is a nice.
Is that a longboard?
No.
Your face is a longboard.

(04:04):
Oh.
Did you miss everything he said?
Bazinga.
Did you miss everything he said?
Yep.
What?
About his skateboard.
Wait.
It's got a bottle opener.
I had my mic muted that wholetime.
I thought that was a USB port.
Yeah, I was going to say wecan't hear you.
This?
This is a USB port.
Yeah.
This is where I put the beers.
I put the beers in for the USB.

(04:25):
And they get charged.
All right.
It's the United Slurping Beersport.
See what happens when you showup late to the show?
No, it's not going to go any wayyou think.
I thought maybe there werespeakers built into that
skateboard.
That would be kind of dope,though.
No, but it is built out ofcarbon fiber.

(04:46):
Ooh, that's pretty nice.
Don't take it underwater.
You'll be fine.
Oh, here we go.
That was the joke.
Yeah, that's the joke.
Hang on.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
It's actually made out of wood.
Wait, wait.
What kind of wood?
Wait.
Really, Mom?
For the joke.
Okay.
Is it real strong oak wood?
Really hard wood.
Anyway, Chris.

(05:08):
Just the way God intended it.
Just the way God intended it.
Glad to hear you're doing swell.
Sucks that, you know, work iswork, right?
Yeah, work be working.
Yeah, work be working, but it iswhat it is.
Glad that you were...
You were able to join us todaybecause I know you had some

(05:29):
stuff you wanted to say aboutthe conversation we're going to
have today.
Yeah.
Moving to Templeton.
What's up?
What does your pulse look like?
I think it's like 98.6.
98.6?
Yeah.
All right, Lachey.

(05:51):
Let's get it.
Come on now.
98 degrees?
I don't understand.
Okay.
Does that mean you're doing wellor are you kind of stressed?
Yes.
To both?
Yes.
You're doing swell whilestressed.

(06:12):
And Yeti, you are muted.
You may want to unmute yourself.
Motherfucker.
So whatever funny stuff we weretrying to say, it just fell on
deaf ears.
It was pretty much what yousaid.
I said he's doing well becausehe's stressed.
Yeah, he's doing well becausehe's stressed.
Right.
Okay, but nothing new?

(06:32):
Nothing new, Templeton?
I mean, except for a fuckingbusted-ass phone, which you guys
all know about.
Yeah, we do know about thebusted-ass phone, which is so
weird that it just stopped.
Yeah, it just broke.
Yeah, it just quit on you, whichis very strange.

(06:52):
To the chat, to the group, tothe viewers, do not.
It's a Motorola.
Fuck, goddammit.
Motorola flip phone.
Words are hard.
They suck.
Words are very hard Words arevery hard But no, I know you

(07:14):
have a You got that flip phoneBut no, yeah, yeah I've had a
Motorola flip phone For likethree years And this is the
third time It's broken Really?
The same phone or differentphone?
Wait, is it the Razr?
Yeah, yeah, yeah Nice So is itthe same phone that broke Or is

(07:36):
it a different phone?
I mean, different phones, but,like, it's always the same
thing.
Like, where it folds, like,where it folds over, it breaks.
See, and that was my concern.
Oh, because it's like a screenright there, ain't it?
Yeah, it was a screen, and thatwas my concern.
I was like, you know, they lookneat, but I feel like

(07:57):
practically, like practicality,it's got to break, right,
eventually, where it's bendingat the screen so many times you
open and close it.
And Jay is correct.
So when Emily switched fromApple to Samsung, she was
looking at that phone.
And when we were there, theperson was like, listen, I've

(08:19):
got this phone, and it was thefirst gen.
And he said that the newer gensare a lot better, but this first
gen one is terrible.
He said he's replaced it liketwo or three times.
Yeah.
Like, I didn't drop it.
I did not go against anything.
I didn't, like...
do anything like personally todamage it it just broke yeah

(08:45):
that's that's what you're sayingis that razor is dull correct
that that's a pretty i see whatyou did there a dull rusty razor
yeti you're uh your camera's offbut um templeton uh i'm uh
what's up i hope you're i hopeyou're able to get your uh your

(09:05):
phone issues uh straightened outi mean I will or I won't.
I mean, mostly I will, but itjust depends on how much money
it's going to cost me.
I got you.
Oh, I have an idea.
Uh-oh.
You should get a pager.
here we go the best part aboutthat the best part about that is

(09:34):
there is a portion of ourlisteners that's googling right
now what is it absolutely wehave we have reached the
generation that doesn't knowwhat a pager is and has like no
idea what dial-up internet is.

UNKNOWN (09:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (09:49):
Isn't that crazy?
What is that loopy?
Yeah, what is that?
Beep, beep.
I secretly missed that sound, tobe honest.
Well, that's why I wasserenading.
You should bring it back.
Yo, Jay, you should throw thatinto a song.
You should open a song with thatsound.

(10:11):
Oh, my God.
Core memories would be blocked.
Dude, you have to.
I could do it.
You have to do it.
The name of the song should belike, It's About Time.
Or like, you know, I don't know.
Throwback or dial-up.
Could call it dial-up.

(10:31):
Could just call it dial-up.
Dial-up.
Dial-up or dialed in.
Dialed in.
Dialed in.
What?
That's the hook.
That's the hook for the song.
It's dialed in.
Dialed in.
Hey, let's fucking go.
Got it.
Got it.
I'm going to write all that downso that way I can.
I love tangents.
They're so great.
Yes, this is great.
My brain.

(10:53):
But no, Templeton, for sure.
Hopefully, you're able to getyour phone situation taken care
of.
What phone are you currentlyusing, Templeton?
I got a Motorola Flip Z3.
It's a decent phone.
Basically, it's a flip phone.

(11:15):
Whose phone is that?
Motorola.

UNKNOWN (11:19):
Motorola.

SPEAKER_00 (11:20):
No, I get that.
Like, did you borrow it off ofsomebody and you got to give it
back to them?
What is going on?
No.
No, my guy.
You know what?
Okay.
All right.
We're moving on.
Yeti.
Tell us what your pulse lookslike.
Okay.
I thought his phone broke and hewas borrowing a phone.
Tell us what your pulse lookslike.

(11:40):
We got to the bottom of thewhole phone thing.
Okay.
All right.
Moving on.
Five, five.
My brother's playing lottonumbers over here.

(12:04):
Grizz had to remove the shades.
Like, am I hearing anything?
Why are there so many fuckingnumbers?
That's what my pulse is rightnow.
Oh, so hang on.
911, he is stressed.
Wait, no shit.
He's incredibly stressed.
Legitimately scary.
But wait a minute.
Is that boobless spelledbackwards?

(12:27):
Five, five, three, what?
Seven.
Seven.
Eight.
Eight, zero, zero, eight.
Yeah, it's boobless.
That's boobless, fellas.
I see you.
Upside down.
Yeah, I see you.
That's sell boob.
Yeah, sell boob.
Sell boob.
I sell boob.

(12:49):
Just pissed off a wholecommunity.
Anyway, what's going on withyou?
Why are you so stressed, Yeti?
I'm busy, dude.
I got a lot going on.
Getting ready for this littlemunchkin that's causing Emily a
world of problems.
Yeah.
She had appendicitis a coupleweeks ago.
Yeah, you were sharing thatstory.

(13:11):
Did we have a podcast?
Oh, we did have a podcast.
Did we have a podcast that day?
We're supposed to.
Let's keep down to it.
Yeah, the episode that gotreleased today.
You were talking about that.
Oh.
All right, yeah.
So we had that happen, and...
Now she's having contractions,but they're not strong enough
for her to be like in actuallabor.
So I think they're called theBraxton tractions.
Okay.

(13:31):
Contractions.
So yeah, fun times.
Uh, we've got a painter comingtomorrow to paint up the nursery
and hopefully we'll get thatroom squared away this weekend.
And then we have to clean thehouse and get ready for the, the
trash bash on July 5th.
I was going to say that'sliterally next weekend.
That's a lot, my guy.

(13:52):
It's a lot going on, bro.
So that's probably why his pulseis like boobless.
Super high.
Sell boob.
Sell boob.
Are you coming to that,Templeton?
I mean, I don't know.
That sounds like a yes.
Right.
That's a lot of words for yes.
Why aren't you sure, bro?

(14:19):
Because, like...
I'm sorry.
Danny's going to be here.
Over the week.
Yeah.
Chris is coming into town forit, too.
Just for the weekend.
No, so what I heard is he'sgoing to skateboard the whole
way.
That's right.

(14:40):
That's right.
Actually, I was going to justgrab onto the back of a
semi-truck.
Yes.
And just...
I'm just gonna ride that bitchlike a kite.
Go on my way.
I fucked with that.
I fucked with that.
That's why you got that.
They're gonna call me the...
Ocean Spray 2.0.

(15:00):
That's what I'm going to do.
You remember when we had that onTikTok?
I know, bro.
We had it so simple back then.
Right?
Now it's like, it's hot andcold.
Is she leaving?
Is she not leaving?
TikTok's banned.
Now it's not banned.
Now it's banned.
Now it's not banned.
Is she leaving?
Half in, half out anyway, right?

(15:23):
So anyway...
Life motto.
Let's go.
I prefer to be half Finn.
Right.
So, Yeti, it does sound like yougot a lot going on.
No, we're not even going toentertain that, Chris.
Entertain what?
Don't encourage him.
I don't know what you're talkingabout.
No courage has been encouraged.
I'd like to be half Finn.

(15:44):
I'd like to be half him.
He's just optimistic.
You're right.
Absolutely.
That's what we're going to chalkit up to.
Optimism.
But yeah, it sounds like you gota lot on your plate.
Hopefully everything kind ofsettles down a little bit.
I know it is going to getprobably a little bit crazier

(16:06):
when the baby shows up.
Yeah.
So the other thing I have on myplate is I have a...
And this one, I'd like to getyour guys' input real quick.
So...
I go on vacation starting nextweekend.
Yeah.
So next Friday or next Thursdaywill be my last day at work.
Yep.
Do I use that vacation or do Ipocket that vacation for later?

(16:30):
You use that shit.
Because my brain's like, this isthe last week that I will be a
free man.
It's your last week of sanity.
Just enjoy the week you haveoff.
Yeah, I think enjoy it.
Take it.
Because it's not like you're notgoing to enjoy what's about to
come.
It'll just be a different...
You'll be busy.
You'll be tired.

(16:50):
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
So get all that Xbox time in.
Yep, yep.
That's what I was thinking.
Play some Assassin's Creed.
There you go.
I've been telling you that.
Hands down, take that week.
Enjoy the week.
Because you're going to need it.

(17:11):
But yeah, hopefully everythingdoes settle down and very much
looking forward to the partynext weekend.
It's going to be epic.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
It's going to be a good time.
What's the footwear?
Are we all wearing Dad Force 1s?
It's a trash bash.

(17:33):
Maybe it's Crocs or sandals.
Yeah, like it's going to be bad,bro.
Crocs.
Crocs.
Everyone's coming dressed.
Blue Crocs.
Blue Crocs.
Blue Crocs.
Red, white, and blue Crocs.
Let's go.
Hey, yo.
America.
Come on now.
America Crocs.
America Crocs.
So, Templeton, are you good?

(17:54):
Because I know he was saying.
Did we lose him?
Yeah, I heard him cussing at hispewter, so.
Hopefully, we probably lost him.
So, who wants entertainmentnews?
I would like to hear it.
Do you want some entertainmentnews?
Okay.
So, I heard...
that Sony will not be addingfirst-party games on PlayStation

(18:18):
Plus day one, like Xbox GamePass does.
What do you mean by that?
So the 15th anniversary ofPlayStation Plus will be on the
29th of June, which, as of thisrecording, is three days from
now.
And people were expecting themto kind of, since Xbox is going

(18:40):
the route they're going, peoplewere kind of expecting,
especially for a 15thanniversary, Oh, I see what
you're saying.
PlayStation Plus.

(19:07):
That's interesting.
Instead of kind of doing whatthe fans or players, consumers,
want them to do.
They're kind of sticking withthe business model.
So, will that help them or hurtthem?
In the long run.

(19:28):
Is that how they already areconducting business?
That's how it's always been.
And they said they've seen anuptick in like, I think they
said 18%.
of people, because they havethree tiers, right?
Instead of, because I don'tthink Game Pass has a tier
system like No, it's just aone-or-all.
Right.
So you have your standard, yourwhatever, and then your premium,

(19:50):
which premium is what I have,and you get charged once a year,
and you get access to literallyeverything.
So they've seen an 18% increaseof PlayStation Plus users going
from a lesser tier to thehighest tier, or a higher tier.
So, I mean...
I guess the motto goes, if itain't broke, don't fix it.

(20:13):
But at the same time, is itpossible they're missing out on
some other players or consumersif they don't add something day
one?
To quote my boy Loki, an ant hasno quarrel with a boot.
Ah, yeah.

(20:37):
Okay.
Fair enough, fair enough.
He came to play.
You most certainly did.
I don't know, because here's mything, and I thought about this
today after I read that, becauseI was like, Game Pass, yes, is a
great thing, especially for Xboxplayers, right?

(20:58):
Especially for those that arelike, ooh, Assassin's Creed, day
one, release, on Xbox, on GamePass, I'm going to play it,
blah, blah, blah, what have you.
Right.
Right.
Right.

(21:30):
They have to be, right?
Yes, they have to.
How else are they getting paid?
How else are they getting paidfor these games?
My question is this, just likeany other streaming service or
anything like that, coming fromsomebody that has music out on
Spotify, what have you, in orderfor an artist to get paid like
myself on streams, you've got toget a lot.

(21:53):
To put some perspective on it,I've got maybe 500,000 streams
as of right now.
And you want to take a guess onhow much total I've banked so
far over the years?
No clue.
Yeah, I don't even know what agood metric would be.
Yeah, I don't know a baseline.
Right.
So even with 500,000 streams,I've only made, accumulated,

(22:20):
like$150,000.
Damn.
That's it.
Wow.
And that's 500,000 streams.
So if we're going based off ofthat as a baseline on what a
subscription service would payout at the end of the day, if
I'm the developer, how am Igetting paid?
Because all that's kind of like,behind the scenes, right?

(22:45):
That's never really publicinformation, how much a
developer or a studio is makingbased off of how many streams or
downloads or what have you fromGame Pass that they're going to
make.
Now, is there a quota?
Do you have to hit so manystreams?
Do you have to hit so manydownloads?
How many is that?
Are you getting pennies on thedollar?

(23:06):
What is this, right?
How much could a developerpossibly make via streaming?
that's interesting because iwonder if you can look at it two
ways i wonder does microsoft goto these game developers and
they're like hey we would likeyour game to be on game pass i

(23:27):
don't think it goes this way ithink it's a different way but
hypothetically microsoft mr mrwilliam gates goes door to door
assassins creed i would like toput your game on game pass
here's some money and he justthrows money at them like a
percentage yeah I doubt it'slike that.
It's probably the flip reverse.

(23:48):
These games probably have to goto Bill Gates' doorstep and
they're like, hey, I would likemy game to be on your Game Pass.
And then they work out some sortof deal and it probably is
pennies on the dollar what theyget out of it based on Downloads
or streams or however Game Passworks.
I think it's downloads, right?
I'm thinking downloads.
I think it's downloads.

(24:08):
Yeah, I'm thinking downloads.
But still, does it also comeinto play?
Again, I mentioned Sony's notgoing to release first-party
games.
on launch day what's a firstparty game yeah i don't know
what first party game is so likeso like your big your bigger
studios like um like likenaughty dog like a triple a

(24:28):
title right yeah triple a titlelike naughty dog like fucking
blizzard or what have you orsanta monica studios for for
sony um they won't they won'trelease those on day one now if
you're like you know if you're12 months is crazy, though.
12 to 18 months, by the way.
So it could be a year to a yearand a half.
That's extensive.
It is, but if you think aboutit, because now that kind of

(24:53):
makes the consumer, I now haveto purchase this from the
developer.
Who gets all the money now?
Yeah, I mean, it isdeveloper-friendly.
And because everything can bepurchased digitally now, it's
not like these people are goingto be like, oh, I'm going to go
to the store, I don't want tobuy it.
Right.
Because you can just pressbuttons.
So I guess I like that more, tobe honest.

(25:14):
Yeah.
It is nice to have everything inone house, like with Game Pass.
Yeah, yeah.
But I think if you're looking atit from the creative standpoint,
the creators getting their moneydirectly is probably more up my
alley.
I feel like it's probably likean NFL contract.
I bet you they get paid money upfront just to secure the bag,

(25:37):
like up front.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, if they do so well or somany streams or so many
downloads, then they startgetting probably pennies or
fractions.
Yes, that's probably what it'slike.
I would venture to say it couldfollow that route.
save for like I'd say for theirAAA games that's probably how

(25:59):
that goes like Call of Duty orwhatever that is Xbox friendly
mostly they probably go to themand say hey here's some money
make this game you can put it onGame Pass as soon as it launches
and once you hit I don't know1.2 million downloads we'll
start paying you extra like youknow you'll get your bonuses and

(26:22):
I can see see it going thatroute, but at the same time that
doesn't feel...
And that's where I did read athread where some people were
saying that also kind of playsinto, on the Game Pass side, why
there are alsomicrotransactions, lots of DLCs,
because how else can you makeyour money as a developer from

(26:43):
streaming?
I can make extra if I have youpay for stuff.
And that's directly in mypocket.
I'm going to go off on a sidenote on this.
On microtransactions, I hatethem.
Nobody likes them.
Ever since we, the consumer, waslike, sure, I'll buy them.

(27:06):
Right.
It was just downhill from there.
Yeah, we are part of theproblem.
Right, right.
Microtransactions, they werejust DLCs in the beginning.
Yeah, that's all they were.
Yeah.
And then...
And then they realize they canbreak down the DLC even further.
It perpetuates them to give us ahalf game.
And then be like, we'll updateit.

(27:27):
right when we're ready rightyeah yeah we'll update when
we're ready so i don't know forme i'm kind of like i'm not like
obviously it's been working forsony right but there's a lot of
people that are out there thataren't super fond of the idea
they're like oh you know gamepasses this is why game pass is
better i'm like i get it it doeshave its perks and this isn't to

(27:51):
start a war or a fight i'm justyou know food for thought right
like sony literally is stickingto their business model, which
has obviously been working.
Again, like I said from thejump, if it's not broke, don't
fix it.
If they start doing that, whatare the percussions at the end
of the day?
Does that mean people havealways pitched?

(28:13):
At least I've read and heardfrom a lot of people that have
used Game Pass that yes, it'sgreat, but at the same time,
they have this extensive libraryof garbage that's out there.
Just a whole bunch of games thatare...
I've looked...
And yes, there's a lot of gameson there that I would never,
ever think about trying.
So you're paying this money forthis streaming stuff or

(28:34):
whatever, what have you.
You're paying money for GamePass and you only got it for
what?
The AAA games like Call of Duty?
Maybe four games at mostprobably.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm kind of like, Is it worthit?
I mean, don't get me wrong.
It is worth it for those thatare heavy into gaming, want to
try every game under the sun.

(28:54):
I'm not trying to discourageanybody from buying Game Pass.
Get Game Pass.
Game Pass is fucking phenomenal.
I would love to be able to justbe like, ooh, day one, I can
play it for free.
Yeah.
And to be fair, I'm willing tobet...
and it's probably a small amountof people, but I'm willing to

(29:15):
bet some of the people that havethat Game Pass, they will try a
game out.
They use that service almostjust to test games.
Absolutely.
Because if you test a game andyou realize this thing is
fucking hot garbage, thank God Ididn't buy it.
Exactly.
And have to go through theprocess of trying to return it.
Now, I can try it, like it,definitely going to go buy this

(29:35):
game and then they go get it.
I guess you don't need to buyit, right?
So here's the thing, though.
But things can come and go,right?
Yes, that's the catch.
Yeah.
I forget what game it was, butthere was a game I was rocking
with and it did get taken off ofGame Pass.

(29:56):
But that was years ago.
Yeah, they only stayed for solong and refreshed the library
and Put in new games, put inolder games, what have you.
Now, Sony does plan on addingcertain additions to PlayStation
Plus.
I forgot what I read on there,but I know that they will have

(30:21):
kind of like an online thingwhere it's like you're playing
for free, but you're not reallyplaying for free, and you get to
try a game out, almost like freegame trials and shit like that.
I don't hate that.
Yeah, they will have newadditions to it.
It's just people were kind ofhoping, I guess, for a Game
Pass-esque version type of feelwhere I can just be like, oh,

(30:46):
okay, their next AAA game iscoming out in a couple of
months.
As soon as it comes out, I'mplaying it day one and I don't
have to go pay$70 for the game.
And for me, I'm like, you know,especially on games that I
really like, I want to supportthe developer, right?
I want to help them create thesame games that I love, you know

(31:09):
what I mean?
To where, I don't know.
Again, just food for thought.
And Sony, if that's how you wantto do things, that's how you're
going to do things.
And we're just going to have tolive with it, right?
sony fanboys so but anyway butanyway enough about enough about
me let's talk about me anyway umso since we don't have melina

(31:34):
yeti yo would you like to stepto the plate oh he's got it up
we're gonna do a little bit ofred roulette today batter in the
box batter in the box okay allright all right um Pick a
number.
Between 1 and 2.5 million.
1 and 1.8.

(31:55):
1.8 what?
Yeah.
Finish your sentence.
1.8.
I'm too scared to answer this.
1.8.
It's a trap.
No trap.
What do you got, Grizz?

(32:16):
1.2.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
1,000.
All right, go get some snacks.
Two.
Nice.
Looks awful.
Am I the asshole for not goingahead with a plan that changed

(32:36):
at 3 a.m.?
I'm going to tell you right now.
You're not the asshole.
You're not the asshole.
Moving on.
I don't even need to rest, bro.
Yeah, next question.
Bro, I'm telling you right now,any of you motherfuckers trying
to make some plans, and they'retrying to make you changes at 3
a.m.?
Oh, no.
No.
No.
No.
Absolutely not.
Hell no.
We're fighting.

(32:58):
Big facts.
You can make that change, and Iwill keep doing what it was we
were doing.
Sleep in.
Yep.
3 a.m., I'm asleep.
Good night.
Okay, me and my best friend arevery busy people.
She has two small children andchildcare is very difficult for
her.
But several months ago, sheinvited me to a hike to several
hours away.
But luckily, it was the daybefore I was going back on

(33:18):
shift.
So I could actually go.
A few weeks after we agreed tothat, she went out for a drink
to catch up.
And she said, although I don'tremember this, that she needed
to change it from that day tothe day after.
Then I'd be at work.
I don't think she said that.
Or if she did, it wasn'tcommunicated properly because I
knew I'd be at work, so wouldhave instantly said no if she

(33:41):
had asked.
Last week, I messaged her to askif the hike was still on.
Yes, I messaged her on theTuesday about 7 p.m.
asking what I needed for thenext day, and she was confused,
saying, you mean Thursday?
I said, no, Wednesday, and senther the screenshot of when we
originally planned it.
She said, yeah, but when we wentfor drinks, I said Thursday.
And I said, I don't rememberthat.
I would never have been able togo on Thursday.

(34:04):
So I said during theconversation that went around 7
p.m.
until 10 p.m., I said, oh, Iguess I can't go.
Then she messaged me back alittle bit when I was already
asleep saying it was only thefact her car was in the shop
that we couldn't go.
I have a car.
She didn't ask me.
At any point, if I could drive.
Otherwise, we could have gone.

(34:25):
She sent me a message at 3 a.m.
saying she managed to borrow acar.
We could still go.
Obviously, I was asleep at thispoint.
She messaged me several timesfrom 6 a.m.
to about 10 a.m.
when I woke up.
I even messaged my husband eventhough he was out.
So he could also only message mewhatever.

(34:45):
But again, I was asleep.
By then, it was too late.
She's mad at me because I didn'tsee any of her messages in that
time frame.
And when I made alternativeplans for that day, when it was
clear that I had missed her 6a.m.
to 9 a.m.
window for leaving, she said Icould have messaged her back
faster after I woke up and wecould have gone somewhere.
Even though I was under theimpression that she still

(35:07):
couldn't get all that onWednesday because of her
childcare.
Big group.
I've tried an olive branch andsent her my work schedule for
the next month saying how we canfix this.
Love you.
And she's left me on read forthe past few days.
Yeah, not an asshole.
Yeah, you're not an asshole.
Your friend's an asshole.

(35:29):
For sure.
Leaving you on red because of amisunderstanding?
Right.
See, so that's the thing.
It's going to come down to...
That's young kid shit.
Exactly.
It's going to come down to hesaid, she said bullshit.
We're adults.
That's what that comes down to.
So she texts her at 3 a.m.
to say, hey, I got a car.
apparently so right hey we arewe on for three hours from now

(35:53):
shut up go to bed exactly whatthe fuck like like to be fair if
it's that big of a deal and likeyou were you were eager and
going and the last conversationyou had with your friend was
like i don't work wednesday icould do whatever i want on
wednesday if it's that big of adeal get in said borrow car go
to said house well yeah Yeah,absolutely.

(36:15):
Like, if you're really,really...
Yeah, like...
I mean, that's borderline crazy,too.
Well, no, because, I mean, sothe window for leaving was,
what, between 6 and 9?
Is that what they said?
Yeah, that was, yeah.
I mean, that's a pretty bigfucking window.
You can just show the fuck upat, like, 6.30.
God, God, God, God.
You can drive...
Wake your bitch ass up.
You can drive said car throughthat window.
I mean, or you can show up at 8o'clock, and 8 o'clock is pretty

(36:37):
manageable.
Right.
Yeah, right.
You know, at a decent time, ifthe window is between 6 and 9,
three hours, Jesus Christ.
I also think they're a littlebit older.
Somebody in this conversation isnot.
Because she said she has kids.
She has two small children.
Okay, that doesn't meananything.
She could be 25.

(36:58):
Or 19.
Or 19.
That's not out of the realm ofpossibilities.
It's not.
There's an OSTV show on thisshow.
Where are they now?
That's crazy.
And also like...
That's 100% miscommunication,bro.

(37:20):
That's exactly what it is.
It's exactly what it is.
Who the fuck texts somebody at 3a.m.?
I know you're not awake, right?
I'm going to text you at 3 a.m.
and say, hey, I got this car.
No, if I got the car at 3 a.m.,I'm going to wait until that
window when we're supposed toleave.
I'm going to shoot a text orprobably make a phone call.
And if I don't hear from you,I'm going to be like, oh,
they're probably asleep becauseit was 3 a.m.

(37:42):
when I got this fucking car.
Let's go over there and wakethem up.
Right.
Then that's it.
like I just feel like ifanything the friends the asshole
for sure yes yeah so friends theasshole so our verdict not the
asshole my personal verdict isit should be rewritten to is my

(38:05):
friend the asshole change thattitle to is my friend the
asshole for texting me at 3amknowing good and god damn well I
was asleep to let me know shegot a fucking car to drive in
the next 3 hours that's how thatneeds to be written exactly

(38:26):
perfect fucking crushed it shewent to bed around 10.30pm and
she said that she was workingshe's been working late late
nights and she's also remodelinga house damn the girl the girl
that was supposed to go yes andshe said that's why she was

(38:47):
sleeping that's why she slept solate she'd been remodeling a
fucking house yeah she probablyis right fucking tired and then
she says and i mean here's thething she said my phone goes on
silent when i sleep dnd babysame girl same yep you ain't
getting a hold of me like andhere's the thing and and my mom
hates me when i say this butit's the fucking truth if
there's an emergency at threeo'clock in the morning there's

(39:12):
nothing that i can do no i agreewith that like that's very like
i'm not trying to be a dick No,it's true.
If you require medicalattention, you need to call 911
before you call Chauncey.
The only thing I'm going to giveyou is a fucking band-aid.
Or I'm going to dial 911 for youand I'll be tired.

(39:33):
Or I'm going to say, call 911.
Click.
That sounds like something mytax dollars should do.
Again, and this is the selfishside of me.
If there is legitimately anemergency...
and I'm sleeping, I would ratherdeal with whatever that
emergency is after a good nightrest.

(39:53):
I mean, yeah.
Listen, let me problem solvewith a clear mind.
There you go.
There you go.
Let me get my eight hours ofbeauty sleep, and then let me
get some food in my stomach.
I'm straight at six.
I'm straight at six.
Let me get some food in mystomach.
Let me get some wafflesafterward, and then you can
talk.
Yeah, maybe like an OJ.
Right.
Hold the gloves.

(40:14):
OJ, hold the gloves.
Oh, my God.
Hold on.
Time out.
I'm going to say that.
I'm going to say that when Iorder.
Wait.
Listen, you better do it inthose Dad Force 1s.
I swear to God, the next time weare at a fucking restaurant and
it's breakfast, I'm going tosay, let me get OJ, but hold the

(40:36):
gloves.
Here's the problem.
Here's the problem you're goingto run into.
You might have a generation thathas no idea what the fuck you're
talking about.
They're going to be like, OrangeJuice doesn't have gloves, dude.
OJ doesn't come with gloves, youcall me?
Brother?
Brother, don't you know that OJdoes not come with gloves?

(40:59):
Oh, okay, okay.
Not my OJ.
My OJ does.
Oh, if you Google OJ, hold thegloves.
The AI response is about theO.J.
Simpson trial.
Let's go.
So I'm golden.
So I'm golden.
And he even gives a picture ofO.J.
trying to set the level.
Absolutely.
It don't fit, dog.
It don't fit.

(41:19):
You must have quit.
That motherfucker had hisfingers spread out like...
They got the wrong size glove,bro.
Like, really?
They had like a medium for likethe guy with extra large fucking
hands.
They're like, did you forget?
Wasn't he a running back?
Yes, I was going to say, did youforget he played football?

(41:41):
Like, the motherfucker's huge.
Hey, so...
They're like, here, try thisglove on, OJ.
Sure.
Look at this motherfucker.
Looking like...
I'm weak.
Anyway, so the verdict, not theasshole.

(42:03):
Not the asshole.
Your friend is 110% the asshole.
So yeah, just listen.
Those of you listening, ourlisteners, our lovely listeners,
don't do that to your friends.
I got a question.
Yes.
Jeremy, for Halloween this year,Can you just wear a gray suit
and some black gloves and justwalk around like this the whole
time?

(42:23):
I could, but I would like toknow who Jeremy is.
Oh, sorry.
Sorry.
Sorry, Jay.
I would like to know who thatis, because he sounds like a
really awesome dude, though, bythe way.
No, he sounds cool.
I want to meet him someday.
But no, I could probably dothat.
I could probably swing that.
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Woo!

SPEAKER_00 (43:58):
And now you can watch the health bar raise.
You can watch my concentrationlevels spike when we get into
this topic of ours, which, whatare we talking about today?
Because I think it's going to bea deep conversation.

(44:18):
It's 100% going to be a deep.
I see what you did there, too.
Let's dive in it.
Let's go ahead and dive right onin.
The jokes just keep coming.
They write themselves.
They really do.
Something of like titanicproportions.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you right now.

(44:38):
This conversation is about to godown.
I'm telling you.
It's about to go down.
Oh, yeah.
It's about to go down because weare under pressure to get this
shit going.
This is literally the equivalentof a family guy cutaway.
100%, bro.
I say we submerge ourselves intothis conversation starting right

(44:58):
now.
I think so, too.
We'll kind of wade into it alittle bit.
We're fucking idiots, dude.
Absolute gold.
Absolute gold.
Absolute cinema.
Absolute cinema.
So, anyway, what are we talkingabout today, y'all?

(45:20):
You know what's funny The nameof the It's called the Ocean
Gate So we're going to betalking about the Ocean Gate But
isn't that like What was the TomBrady thing It didn't end with
the gate as well Oh like thedeflate gate Yeah the deflate
gate And it's just funny thatOcean Gate One would say it's a
bigger version of Watergate.

(45:41):
I mean, sure.
Now, Ocean Gate is the name ofthe company, by the way.
Which is crazy.
Yeah, that is fucking crazy.
That's what I'm saying.
It's fucking wild.
It's got multiple meaningsbehind that.
But yeah, we will be talkingabout the Titan Submersible.
Mainly not because, you know,we're bored.

(46:03):
Because Netflix and Max now havewonderful documentaries to watch
at haven't watched them you needto check them out um but they do
have whole documentaries aboutall the fuckery that was
happening at ocean a lot therewas quite a bit there was a lot
of fuckery going on dude okayyou know my favorite part about

(46:24):
this documentary so i watchedthe netflix one specifically uh
titan yep yep was it calledtitan so i watched i watched the
netflix one exclusively ihaven't seen max's and i want to
But my favorite piece of lore isall that shit was built right in
my backyard here in Seattle.

(46:45):
Just north of Seattle andEverett, Washington.
That shit is crazy.
Grizz is like, it was right upthe street.
No joke.
It was right up the street.
Right up the street.
You got people from UW andBoeing working on it.
These are words that I know.

(47:08):
That's crazy.
I for real thought you weregoing to say when Stockton said
or when he was quoted sayingI'll just buy a congressman.
Yo, that was wild work.
Dude, I guess.
Okay, so let's dive into this.
And again, every pun that wethrow out here is intended.

(47:28):
Because, number one, fuck thisguy.
Yes, yes.
Like, in every way, shape, andform.
Please hold all empathy for theend.
Yes, exactly.
At least for this one guy,right?
Because if you haven't seen it,and you watch it, you will find
out very quickly that all itdoes is make you more pissed off

(47:49):
at Stockton Rush.
That's right.
That was his name.
I forgot his name.
He was so above everybody andeverything else.
It was asinine.
Their investigations are stillongoing, but let's get into this
about how Stockton Rush knew alot of problems that were

(48:12):
happening with these fuckingsubmersible And did nothing
about it.
Literally did nothing about it.
And anybody that said anythingabout it, he just said, yeah,
you gotta go.
Bye-bye.
Yeah.
Right.
What?
Straight up fired everybody.
That's crazy.
Literally the Tom Cruise ofsubmersibles.
He was like, I can't do thisstunt.
Out of here.
Out of here.

(48:33):
The fuck out.
Give me another guy.
No shit.
And I'm just like, what in theabsolute fuck?
Because let me tell you, when hesaid that, the way that he was
doing everything to...
Everything in his power to avoidany kind of U.S.
regulations.
That's insane.
He went through and literallyfound every loophole.

(48:56):
Every loophole.
every loophole literally everysingle one because because these
people were considered what werethey called mission specialists
yes because if they'reconsidered mission specialists
they're not technically touristsso yes you know right yeah
they're not they're not they'renot uh like they pay money right
yes yeah they're not uh whatthey call it um um tourist was

(49:21):
the word No, passenger.
That's the word I was lookingfor.
They're not passengers.
They are crew members.
They're crew members.
They are mission specialists.
The fuck they are.
Right.
Exactly.
No fucking shit.
And for him to straight up lieto these people and say, okay,
so we're going to flag it in theBahamas, but we're launching

(49:41):
from somewhere in Canada.
I was like, what?
And the guy that was like, yeah,that's not okay.
We need to get the...
We need to get the sub classed.
Right.
Like that was the whole thing.
They were under the impression.
Right.
They were under the impressionthat Stockton was going to get
that submersible class becausehe had like two or three others

(50:03):
that he made that were classed.
So, you know, why would theythink anything else?
And this guy is doing everythingin his power to have the U.S.
government or anybody just stayaway from it.
And the reason is he knew heknew that it wasn't going to
work.
this is why he was so adamant ongetting that machinery down

(50:28):
there and it's because all thesubmarine submersive aircraft or
crafts or whatever you want tocall them they're all made out
of steel or titanium and whenyou make and they're heavy as
balls yes and but they'redurable But the four that are...

(50:52):
Out of the four pods that canmake it, they're made out of
titanium, steel, but the thingis they're super expensive.
Yes, they are.
They're expensive to make.
They're heavy.
Yes, and apparently carbon fiberis cheaper.
Yes, it is.
It's much cheaper.
And he is...
Lighter.
Very lighter.
Yes, and he thought...
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.

(51:22):
And that's what fuckedeverybody.
That's all it came down to washe wanted to be a pioneer
because he said, everybody keptcalling me crazy and said,
you're fucking nuts.
And I'm like, I'm going to provethem wrong.
And it cost you and four otherpeople their fucking lives.
Like, what?
It was literally, it was stillan experimental sub because with

(51:45):
every experiment, every, likewhen they did the one third
scaled sub.
Yeah, the scaled version.
Yeah, I know on The Netflix one,they showed that.
Every time they did that, it waslike, it would burst.
And the crazy part was they gotto like 6,700 PSI.
So on the small scale, you coulddouble how far they got down.

(52:08):
But when they got to the fullscale, they could never make it
to 4,000 fucking meters.
Yeah, right, right.
And he knew that.
He knew that.
But when somebody would bring itup, he's like, yeah, you know, I
don't think you're asadventurous as we are.
So you're going to have to,yeah, just pack your things and

(52:28):
go.
You know what I mean?
And then he would literally findlike, oh, this accountant right
here, you're going to be ournext sub driver.
That was crazy when Iinterviewed her.
She was like, I'm not.
I'm an accountant.
A pilot.
Yeah.
He's like, this is going to beso great.
You're going to be the firstwoman pilot of this thing.
She's like, huh?

(52:49):
Huh?
Me?
Huh?
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
I'm good on that.
You're going to be our nextpilot.
Huh?
Me?
You ain't talking to me.
I know you ain't talking to me.
Dude, I don't even have mypermit yet, bro.
Yeah.
No shit.
No fucking shit.
Yeah.
That was crazy work.
It was crazy work.
What was that firstwhistleblower's name?

(53:09):
The actual pilot who was like,we're not getting this thing
regulated?
I'm out.
Yeah, I don't remember hisfucking name.
Dude, that guy is my hero.
Yes, yes, yes.
But here's the thing, though.
My question is, when all thesepeople got fired...
How come they didn't raise abigger fuss?

(53:29):
So if you were paying attention,I don't remember if it was a
Netflix one or the Max one.
I'm pretty sure it was a Netflixone.
But Stockton Rush, he told hisbuddy who, which again- He told
the engineer.
Yeah, the engineer.
The main engineer.
Yes, he told the main engineerthat he had no problem spending
$50,000 on ruining somebody'slife.

(53:51):
he basically scared everybody tonot talk he was bullying people
into not saying anything becausehe had the money and that was
the thing he barely had themoney you're right but he was
putting up a good front makingeverybody believe that he could
afford to ruin your fucking lifebecause mainly Boeing bowed out

(54:16):
because he had no money and andThey probably knew the shit
wasn't going to work.
Dude, that's fucking, that'scrazy.
Here's the crazy thing is I, I,after watching that documentary,
I believe it can work.
It just needs more testing.
It may be, maybe the whole can'tbe a hundred percent carbon

(54:38):
fiber, right?
Maybe, maybe you need to do somesteel reinforcing like a cage
and then have the carbon fiberput around it something.
But he was, he was so dead seton like, no, we're doing it this
way.
And it's like, brother, you arebeating your head into a wall
and expecting the wall to move.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
It was interesting because ofcourse, you know, um, um, Getty,

(55:01):
you know, mom does, does allthose, all those, uh, uh, audits
and everything like that.
And she has, she has like, sheknows the ins and outs of that
stuff.
And she did make thesuggestions.
She was like, what I thinkhappened when Boeing left, when
Boeing like parted ways withocean gate, uh, Because Boeing
gave him the design for thatsub, for the hull.

(55:25):
When they pulled out, when theywere like, no, I'm good.
She was like, Stockton wassupposed to send everything
back.
That includes the plans and theschematics for that sub.
Oh, yeah, he kept that shit.
He kept that shit.
So he was working with what hehad.
And at that point, he's like, ithas to succeed.

(55:46):
At that point, he was like, Ihave to because now I'm hurting
on money.
I have no backing, and I got tostart getting money in.
He started selling tickets topeople, started selling rides
for people.
What?
Bro, that makes me so mad.
He sold tickets and took peopledown to these expeditions that

(56:07):
weren't the Titanic.
Right.
They were like, I forget, whatwas it, like somewhere outside
of Mexico?
Shipwrecks, yeah.
Some shipwrecks that were likewell below the 3,000 PSI range.
And like, honestly, it couldhave probably fucking imploded
at that point too.
Yes, it could have.

(56:28):
Because in the dock, one of theexperts that was like part of
the cross-examination wasbasically saying, if you take a
ski and you bend it, And youhear it cracking.
It's not, oh, it cracked 700times.
We're good.
It's a matter of when it's goingto crack, not if it will crack.

(56:51):
It's going to ultimately break.
And that's the thing with thesubmersible.
It was always going to break.
It was just a matter of when.
Another perfect example, yousaid a ski.
Another thing is, because I knoweveryone's done this.
This is a paper clip.
If you take a paperclip and justcontinuously bend it, at some

(57:12):
point it's just going to snap.
Yeah, it breaks.
One of the engineers was smartenough before he got canned, he
put all those microphones inthere and Stockton wanted there
to be one microphone and my manput like five billion or some
shit.
He put a bunch of them.
So fun fact.

(57:32):
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
I mean, I don't want to jump toofar into the documentary
timeline, but I found itinteresting that each one of
those trips, they have audiorecordings of said microphones

(57:55):
and when big spikes would occur.
And so they have a track recordof when...
They can basically calculatefrom that point, okay, it
survived all these trips.
It's going to fail eventually.
And it was, thankfully, one ofthe mission specialists fucking

(58:16):
saw water back in between thetitanium and the carbon fiber.
And I'm pretty sure thatabsolutely pissed off.
Destroyed it.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because then they found thatseven-foot-long crack.
And that was Cyclops 1.
And then they brought in a wholenew design team, whole new

(58:37):
engineers.
It's no longer Boeing.
It's some other company that cando it even cheaper than Boeing.
And that one, Cyclops 2, neverpassed the tests on the scaled
version.
It never got close to 4,000 PSI.
Nope.
And they just fucking ran withit.
Yeah.
Stockton just ignored everywarning sign.

(59:00):
And I was going to say, funfact, that acoustic system that
they put in there, I mean, yeah,Stockton was all for it.
Like you said, he just wantedone microphone in there, though.
So he was telling everybodythat, oh, we'll know well before
catastrophic failure that it'sgoing to fail.
Nope.
Well, technically speaking, itdid work.

(59:22):
Because when they found thatmassive crack in the hull, that
was on dive 80, I believe itwas.
And that's when they had theloudest pop.
Because they said they heardof...
The guy was like, I didn't wantto go.
Or he was fine going.
But once he got to the surface,they were almost breaking the

(59:43):
surface of the water.
And that's when they heard areally loud pop.
And that showed...
on on the acoustics on thecharts right it showed on the
charts and that's when thatcrack in the hole happened so
technically speaking theirsystem worked he just ignored
the failsafe right theyinstalled on this fucking thing
yeah yeah and then dive 81 youthey show the they show them

(01:00:07):
they have the fucking paperworkright they have and you see in
dive dive 80 The little, like,the little, like, raises.
The no line.
Little baby.
And then dive 81.
Fucking all over the place.
Oh, everywhere.
Yes.
Dude, like.
Yes.
Dude, I would have seen that andbeen like, I'm good.
Yeah, I'm straight.
I'm not getting in there.

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I'll go door dash.
Like, I'm out.
No, no, no.
For real.
For real, though.
Okay, let's put it like this.
The average American, they getin their car, right?
Yep.
A car that we drive everyfucking day.
Yeah.
The moment you hear a noise thatyou do not recognize or it is
repetitive or whatever the casemay be.
What do you do?
Oh, you are literally like mostof the time what I'm doing.

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Listen, most people do what youwant us to say.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Turn it on the radio.
They stop.
I'm like, they take their shitto a fucking deal to a fucking
mechanic and say, hey, fix thisor what's wrong with it.
Yeah.
Stockton's the guy that justturns the radio up.
Or crazy people turn the radioup.
I was going to say Stockton'sthe guy that'll turn the radio
up and say, I don't hear athing.
But here's the difference.

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Here's the difference betweenpeople in their cars and people
in their submersible.
If something happens and Iignore a problem in my car,
something could break and Imight get in an accident.
But likely the statistic saysI'm not going to die.
Right.
And I'm not underwater.
If I'm in a vehicle and I hearsomething that sounds anything

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remotely like it's not supposedto be there, abort.
We're going back.
Abort.
But it was interesting to seeeven in the documentary when
Stockton went down himself whenthey went to the Bahamas and
they did all the testing on theone.
Is that when he was driving it?
Well, he was in there byhimself.

(01:01:54):
Oh, okay.
He went down.
They started like 3 a.m.
or some shit like that.
Yes, I remember.
They have the video of him inthere, and as it's going down,
all you hear is that.
And I keep telling people, I'mlike, if you watch the Netflix
documentary, they focus– I knowI said they have their
differences, but they aresimilar in the likes of, they're

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telling kind of the same storyabout Stockton and all that kind
of shit.
But in the Netflix documentary,they show a lot more about, they
focus more about the fuckerythat went on in Ocean Gate.
And when he goes down in theBahamas, I mean, the moment that
bitch is in the water, the noiseyou hear inside of that fucking
hole will haunt your fuckingdreams.

(01:02:36):
Dude, it's insane.
Bro, it's loud.
It's just this popping,non-fucking-stop.
And I'm like, the first timethat I heard it on the
documentary, I was like, thatcan't be good.
I was like, there's just nofucking way.
I feel like you shouldn't behearing those things.
No, and what's happening isthose tiny little carbon fiber

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strands are breaking.
They're breaking.
Yeah.
That popping is, every fiber onthere is just...
And eventually, it's going todisappear.

UNKNOWN (01:03:09):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:03:09):
And he's like, no, that's totally normal.
As if it's not.
But here's where thismotherfucker, he's too smart to
be this dumb.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Those fibers are breaking.
Right.
When you come back from anexpedition, they don't refuse.
Yeah.
and then re-break again.
Now, if that was the case, ifthey had a fucking Wolverine

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healing factor...
Regenerative hold.
Different fucking story.
But you take a 100% healthyvessel, and you go down, and
then 20% damage occurred, youcome back up, and then you
compound that over 80 fuckingexpeditions?
Yep.
That's a problem.
And then keep in mind, becauseyou said that there was water

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between the hull and the...
The exterior and the interior.
Yes, yes.
When water gets in that shit,they kept that shit out in the
fucking winter.
That was their other problem.
It wasn't supposed to stay incold temperatures.
Water freezes.
Carbon fiber, regardless, shouldnot be in that kind of

(01:04:14):
temperature because carbon fiberis so brittle.
Because, I mean, just to befair, I got a carbon fiber hood
on my vehicle.
And yes, it's like putting a lotof pressure on one point.
But they tell you, don'tover-tighten.
Because once you over-tightenit, that shit's going to crack.
Because it's not like the steelhood that they put on it.
It's not metal.
Right, it's not metal.
So it's like, it's good.

(01:04:35):
Right.
It's brittle.
It's plastic and glue.
Right.
If it's sub-zero temperature,that shit's going to break.
Listen to what you're saying.
You're saying carbon fiber isbrittle.
Why would you make a fuckinghole out of fucking carbon
fiber?
He thought it was thick enough.
It's incredibly strong, but itcan be brittle under a certain
stress.

(01:04:55):
Right.
It's durable, but everybody kepttelling him that carbon fiber...
alone is not meant for thosekind of pressures.
It's not meant for what the fuckhe was doing.
Because we use carbon fiber onspacecraft and shit, but they
don't build the whole spacecraftout of carbon fiber.

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He was just trying to find acheaper way to make it where he
can make money off of fucking...
rides to the fucking Titanic.
That's it.
Yes, that is all it was.
Because again, when Boeingbacked out, he knew that money
was going to start becoming anissue because he didn't have the
support anymore and all thatkind of shit.
So he had to get the moneyflowing in somehow.

(01:05:40):
And how do I do that?
I just start getting expeditionsto fucking to the Titanic or to
wherever I can.
And the crazy part is a quarterof a million dollars?
Right.
To maybe survive.
To maybe come back.
What?
That's crazy, man.

(01:06:01):
I don't even play the lottery.
I don't even play the lotteryand I'm guaranteed to not die.
No shit.
That's crazy work.
Yeah, I like those ones.
Oh, man.
So I don't know.
It's just, again, thosedocumentaries, if you do get a
chance, Grizz, watch the Maxone, Implosion, because they got

(01:06:25):
Josh Gates, which I don't knowif you guys know who Josh Gates
is.
Destination.
Whatever it is.
Destination.
Expedition.
Yeah.
Whatever it is.
You know what I'm talking about.
Expedition.
Yeah.
One of those.
Yeah.
I like him yes he's and he doesa lot of shady shit like when I
say shady I mean like shaky likehe was in a plane that literally

(01:06:46):
had the floor rusted out and hewas flying right well so right
so it's crazy and and when hegot and when he went over there
and he like the look on his facewas like it screamed like this
is not a good idea and I'm likeif Josh Gates is telling you
this is a bad idea it's probablya fucking bad idea like oh boy
the No, I was just going tosay...

(01:07:10):
Oh, sorry.
Go ahead.
No, I was just going to say thatthe one person that I also
feel...
I probably feel the most bad foris the YouTuber.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I mean, I wouldn't feel toobad for him.
He gets to survive.
No, you're right.
That's survivor's guilt.
Yeah, the survivor's guilt.

(01:07:32):
No, because in theory, intheory, he...
He would have been on theexpedition, right?
Yes.
He would have been.
But they had to bring him back.
If they actually went, it wouldhave been better then.
And that's why he feels bad.
I feel bad for him.
The empathy for that kid isthere.
But he should be grateful thathe wasn't.

(01:07:54):
And I'm sure he is.
I'm not saying he's notgrateful.
Right, right.
But if he could just recognizethat...
Every single person that went onthat thing was fucking lied to.
Yep.
Big time.
You know?
And, like, that's crazy.
You know who I actually feel themost confused by?

(01:08:14):
Is that, like, Frenchexpeditioner.
Oh, yeah.
Mr.
Titanic.
Yeah, that, like, well-traveledguy.
Like, what the fuck?
Because that guy seemed way toosmart.
And I just want to know whatlies was being fed to that guy.
Right.
So I don't remember which one itwas, but I know somebody asked

(01:08:35):
him about it.
They were like, so with all theissues that are going on with
the sub...
Why do you do it?
Aren't you worried that thiscarbon fiber is a bad idea?
And he gave some sort of answerthat I was like, it almost
sounds like he just wants tofucking die.
I was like, this guy soundssuicidal.
I was like, he wants to go downto the Titanic and die there.

(01:08:57):
And I was like, what?
His obsession could have led himthere.
Because I remember there was aclip from where he talked about
that guy specifically...
he said something along thelines.
I'm going to paraphrase.
Uh, if, if, if my expertise canprovide some safety to these
trips, then I'm more than happyto lend that expertise.

(01:09:22):
Right.
And like, valid yeah howeverthere's like a long list of
people saying that you shouldn'tbe doing this exactly and you're
just gonna ignore what they saylike i don't i didn't understand
it i i honestly didn't andstockton rush like again i know
his his engineer friend was itwas his friend it was his buddy

(01:09:45):
and at the end of that wholething he was like you know you
shouldn't talk ill of the deadand blah blah blah because you
know he was like if he was herenow yeah i'd smack him one i'm
like nah bruh motherfucker knewbetter he knew better and then
and then still took lots ofmoney from people and put their
lives in danger no i'll talkshit yeah yeah because and

(01:10:10):
someone someone got it in hishead that he was going to be the
next like bezos or the next elonmusk because you know those guys
those guys were going to spaceand he's like no one's going to
no one's going to the Titanic.
Not like this.
Right.
And he thought he was going tobe like the, the underwater
version of those two guys.
Yeah.
And that's probably what fuckingdrove him mad.

(01:10:31):
I could see that.
Honestly, I could see that.
Yeah.
A little bit of envy orsomething.
it was crazy.
Yeah.
It's, it's fucking nuts.
But, um, I think part of theconversation I wanted to have
was cause I told my parents theyshould watch it.
They did watch both of them,which congrats to them.
Um, I don't remember which oneit was, but the guy at the end

(01:10:53):
of it, he mentioned it wasn'tthe issues, it wasn't the
warnings that Stockton had thatled to them dying, it was the
culture.
And my mom was kind of confused.
She was like, what does he meanby the culture?
And I was like, well, I mean, ifyou think about it, especially

(01:11:13):
the culture nowadays, Stocktonhad enough money, obviously, to
ruin somebody's life, or...
buy a congressman if they gotinvolved and make the problem go
away, right?
Because that's literally, that'sa direct quote from Stockton
Rush himself.
If the U.S.
came poking around and said,I'll buy a congressman and make
it go away.
So the culture is they've got somuch money that they can, that

(01:11:40):
they think they can at least, dowhatever they want to do.
Right, so it's like that cultureis, especially amongst the 1%,
shall we say, is like, if Ithrow enough money at it, my
problems all go away.
Okay.
It's dangerous.
It's very dangerous.
And this should be a hugemonument to how dangerous that

(01:12:04):
mindset can be, becauseespecially if you're doing
something like that, not onlyhave you put yourself first, at
risk obviously it was anexperimental sub the entire time
because it never passed you knowit never passed a fucking test
so you now have four otherpeople on this sub with you and
the one person I feel the worstfor and I hate it is the guy's

(01:12:29):
son who went because the storyis he didn't even want to go he
just went there because it was afather's day thing so he went
there to appease his dad and Andnext thing you know That's crazy
I didn't even want to be here Ididn't even want to be two miles
underneath the fucking ocean Buthere I am And that's the last

(01:12:50):
thing you know You know whatactually Wrecks me when I think
about it Is the fact thatThey're I don't even know what
to call them We'll call it thecontrol room The people on the
boat that are monitoring whilethey go down, lost signal, what

(01:13:14):
was it, like three or fiveminutes?
They lost them.
It was like a few seconds.
I thought there was a little bitof time.
It was a few seconds, becausewhat...
What had happened, I don't knowif it was the Netflix one.
I think this one was on the map.
I think it's the Netflix one.
Is it?

(01:13:34):
Because I remember, I watchedthe Netflix one, and they talk
about it a little bit.
And there's footage from theboat, and they all hear an
explosion.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Then it was the Netflix one.
So, yeah, they caught the momentthat implosion happened.
Because you hear it.
It sounds like...
But what sucks, man, is theywaited...
To report that shit.

(01:13:56):
Okay, so here's what happenedwith that.
And that's why I wanted to touchon what you were saying when
they lost contact.
Because when she radioed andbasically asking, what's going
on?
What's your position?
What's going on?
And then they hear...
the implosion or what we, I'mgoing to use air quotes, the
implosion.
Um, and then the problem wasthey had sent a text from the

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sub saying they had dropped twoweights and that text came
through after the noise.
So they thought that what theyheard were the weights getting
dropped and that's why nothingwas said.
Because if you notice his wife,who is the one that's talking
that whole time, she hears itand she says, what was that
boom?

(01:14:40):
And you can see on her face thatshe knew at that moment that's
an implosion.
She knew that it imploded.
I'm not going to lie to you.
You could drop weights all day.
I don't think you're hearingthat shit.
No, I don't.
I don't know how heavy thoseweights were, but I don't think
you're hearing that shit.
You're not hearing that.
You're not.
Not like that.
Right.
She even said they were about500 meters from where they

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needed to be.
So they weren't all the way atthe fucking bottom.
They still had a way to go.
So for me, I mean, the way thatthey're looking at it is that
message gave them false hope.
basically saying okay so weheard you know what i'm saying
they heard it and the guy thatwas doing the investigation was
like judging by the speed ofsound and how that delay what

(01:15:22):
they had a five second delay ittook about three seconds for
that to hit because they wereabout three thousand meters uh
below below the surface at thatpoint and it took and about a
couple seconds later they gotthe message so that's where it
was like that's why they didn'treport it because they were like
oh yeah they just droppedweights okay we're good all
right so we'll wait and theywere waiting and waiting and

(01:15:44):
waiting and waiting and thenthey're like oh we're not
getting it and that's when theysaid we lost communication but
at that point it's like watchingthat footage you knew like you
knew once you heard that you'relike yep they're gone yeah
that's horrible dude it is youknow what sucks too is you I

(01:16:08):
hate to say it because I don'twant to believe it but I've I,
when this news broke, like whenwe were just reading headlines
on Twitter and shit.
I'm watching the countdown clockof no air.
Yeah.
Remember when they did that?
So when I saw all that, I waslike, when they had the
countdown, I kind of didn'tbelieve that.

(01:16:30):
I was like, they're probablyalready gone.
I didn't think they were justdown there with no...
Running out of oxygen.
I don't know.
I just didn't believe that part.
But...
When you think about...
Once you realize, watching thedocumentary, that all the
problems that that thing had andthe fucking creaking and

(01:16:51):
cracking that that thing did onall those other expeditions...
Dude, they fucking knew it wascoming before it came.
They just didn't know when.
And I hate that for them.
They were probably scared out oftheir mind.
And they got this cocky-assnarcissist motherfucker down
there that's like, don't worry.
I put the PS2 controller inhyperdrive.
We'll be fine.
And then the thing just fucking,you know what I'm saying?

(01:17:13):
Turbo mode or something.
Yeah, no shit.
I hear you, bro.
That shit makes me so mad when Ireally think about it.
It makes me sad and mad at thesame time.
It really does.
and hearing the important soundyeah and the fact that the
camera caught that audio thatshit was loud right and dude

(01:17:34):
that's like I don't know like itsucks because when you hear that
sound you know that's when theydied oh yeah Because you just
know.
And that was another thing thatkind of drove me a little nuts
when they pulled all thewreckage out and everything.
They were like, well, if itimploded, why is the rest of

(01:17:55):
this sub?
Because that wasn't the hullimploded.
The hull was made of the carbonfiber.
Everything else was made ofsteel, titanium, whatever it
was.
They had certain parts thatcould withstand pressures like
that.
But when they pulled the hullout, you seen it was just
shredded.
It was fucking shredded.

(01:18:17):
And I'm like, bro, you don't seethe hull and what the fuck it
looks like?
That's where the fuck they weresitting.
Right.
Are we serious?
And people are like, well, howcome you found these remains and
not these remains?
And somebody put it in aninteresting way that they were
thinking more physics.
They had to think more biologyat that point because they

(01:18:40):
literally became toothpaste.
Yeah, that's what I was actuallycurious.
I was looking up the definitionof implosion to see if I could
find...
If there was like a temperatureor, you know what I mean?
So it's a combination of thingsbecause when the implosion

(01:19:05):
happened, again, I don't knowwhich documentary he states it,
but at the end of it when hetalks about when the implosion
happened, they were introducedto temperatures hotter than the
sun and pressures that were morethan double inside of a scuba
tank.
So, I mean, if you think aboutit, about where they were at,

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like 3,600 feet, I mean, you'retalking 3,600 PSI.
Mm-hmm.
All around you at one time.
We are, we, whenever, aboveground, we are, I think we're
subject to like one...
or something like that at alltimes.
Like, you can, like, we havepressure against us, but nothing

(01:19:49):
like what they were, nothinglike they were at down there.
So, I mean, people kept showingthese photos or videos of
implosions because they werelike, there's no way, you know,
the conspiracy theorists.
Because there's that famousvideo of a tanker that implodes,
right?
And they're like, see, itdoesn't shred, it just kind of
shrinks a little bit.

(01:20:09):
You would, it would have heldperfectly fine.
I'm like, okay, number one, It'snot carbon fiber.
Two totally different materialsgoing on here.
Number two, you are notrecreating that pressure when
it's sitting outside.
You're not.
You're not putting over 3,600PSI on that fucking thing.

(01:20:31):
You're not.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'll tell you what.
You put that bitch in 3600 PSIand have that motherfucker
implode.
I bet that motherfucker lookslike the hole did.
I can almost guarantee it.
Yeah.
I mean, there was no recovery ofthe hole, right?
No.

(01:20:51):
No.
It was there.
Because they just recoveredthe...
No, I'm talking about the carbonfiber part.
That carbon fiber was gone,right?
They just pulled back titaniumand steel.
Yeah, that was literally it.
And they pulled up the nose.
which I think this one was onthe Max documentary.
Because the Coast Guard, oryeah, I believe the Coast Guard,

(01:21:14):
they lean more into theinvestigation side of things on
Max, on the Max documentary.
That's why I say watch that one,so that way you can kind of...
Yeah, I want to.
They've absolutely said...
It looks like that.
So right there, that's whereyour hole used to be.
It's gone That whole thing It'sfucking gone It should have

(01:21:38):
attached to this guy right hereYeah, because that's the nose
And when they pulled the noseout That's where the globe was,
right?
That was the nose of the sub Sowhen they pulled that nose out
They said it was just full ofsand And what they could just
imagine Is like human paste,essentially That's crazy Because
this is what it looked like YeahSo what you're not seeing in

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that photo is the carbon fiberblack circular part.
Right.
Which is inside that thing.
Yes.
Which is why they only were ableto recover the tail.
With a strip of carpet.
Right.
Or whatever was on the bottom ofit.
Dude, literally, he had somefucking problems.

(01:22:21):
Like you said, Grizz, he was toosmart to be that fucking stupid.
And I don't understand it.
All it came down to wasarrogance.
He thought...
Arrogance and greed, probably.
Yep.
Let's see how cheap we can buildthis.
Because that's the other thing.
If it's lighter, it's cheaper tolaunch because you can rent a
smaller boat.

(01:22:41):
Yep.
And those boats that they haveto rent are not cheap.
They're not cheap.
So if you can get a smallerboat, it's less money you got to
spend.
Yep.
So I don't know.
It's tough because it's like...
And at the same time, because Iknow back when it happened,

(01:23:02):
everybody on TikTok all of asudden became experts and
everything.
And they're like, oh, so.
You know how it is.
Actually.
Actually.
Shut the fuck up.
You mow lawns for a living.
Right, right, right.
Over here, all of a sudden,understand how two miles

(01:23:22):
underneath the fucking oceanworks.
Go home.
Go home, Kevin.
Yeah, go home, Kevin.
Go home.
Get out of here.
But it's like, you know, whenthat happened, I don't know,
just people just out there withtheir conspiracy theories and
just, I don't know.

(01:23:42):
Again, it's tough.
It's tough because for me, Ifelt bad for the four other
people that were on therebecause they were lied to.
Just straight up fucking liedto.
Straight lied.
Every single person that went onan expedition.
The journalist from...
Fuck, what was that newsstation?

(01:24:03):
CNN or MSNBC?
Yeah, something like that.
ABC somewhere.
Some from New York.
It was ABC, that's right.
Dude, the ghostly face on thatgentleman's body when they're
interviewing for the doc yeahlike dude that's insane yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For me, I'm just like, themoment you open that bitch up,

(01:24:25):
if I'm stupid enough to go overthere, right?
The moment you open that bitchup and I see everything that's
in there and I'm like, how doyou pilot this thing?
And he holds up a fuckingcontroller that looks very
similar to this.
I'm like, you know what?
We are a boarding mission.
I'm good, dog.
Yeah, I'm good.
You know what?
You keep my$250,000.

(01:24:45):
You need it more than me.
You need it more than I do.
Clearly.
I'm going to watch from topside.
No shit.
No shit.
You go down.
I'll be rooting for you.
You got an extra controller?
I'm going to go find a PS5.
Right.
That's what I'm doing.
I just found this video.
It's on YouTube.
It's what they feel is areenacting of the implosion.

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They said that the implosionduration probably took 20
milliseconds.
Yeah.
The human brain pain responseDupain is 150 milliseconds.
They didn't feel anything.
The problem was what Grizz said.

(01:25:29):
That's the only good part aboutit.
That is best case scenario togo.
You're here and then you're not.
You didn't feel a thing.
It's just black.
But to Grizz's point, you knowthey were hearing all kinds of
fucking popping and shit.
It just sucks because you knowthat that shit lost lost

(01:25:50):
connection moments before ithappened.
So this is what it...
Hold on.
I'm trying to get it to where itfucking does not have glare and
shit.
So bear with me.
So like this...
Does that help at all?
Yeah, a little bit.
A little bit, yeah.

(01:26:10):
Oh, you're playing us a video?
Aw, I feel like I'm in school.
So that's how quickly ithappened.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, again, their brain didnot have any time to process any
kind of pain.
Once again, you're there, andthen you're not.
That's crazy.
Yeah, that's how quickly ithappened.

(01:26:31):
Again, best case scenario.
But for me, the people that weresaying, oh, they weren't
panicking, they didn't feel athing.
No, all that noise they werehearing, I'm sure.
This is what the bodies possiblylook like.
Yes.
Hold on, just wait.
It's...

(01:26:52):
And just jelly.
Just becomes jelly right there.
Yeah.
I mean, what did you say, Jay?
They got, like, temperatures,like, double or triple the sun?
Yeah, hotter than the sun.
So it's like you are instantlycooked.
And I don't mean that as in,Chatter, how cooked am I?
Like, you're fucking...
You are fucking cooked, bro.

(01:27:13):
Like, instant.
Instant.
You're done.
You're done.
Again, yes, they didn't feel athing, but...
They had to have known it wascoming.
That entire trip down, I betthat motherfucker was singing to
him.
I bet it was fucking screaming.
I'm sure it was.
Screeching.
Yes.
Probably sounded like a 95 FoxBody Mustang just screaming all

(01:27:36):
the way down there.
I'm sorry.
Terrible.
Bad idea.
Bad idea.
But, yeah, just, it's, again,we're not talking about it
because we're bored.
We're talking about it becausethere is a documentary, right?
And one of the guys did bringup, he said, Stockton Rush just
wanted to be famous.

(01:27:57):
He wanted to be remembered.
And guess what?
Well, he got it.
He got it.
Yeah, he did.
And I'm like, that sucks, right?
Like, in a way, that fuckingsucks.
It may not be the way that hewanted, but.
Right, it kind of sucks because,I mean, granted, it,
Double-edged sword.
Because, yes, it should be aneye-opening wake-up call to
those that think they can getaway with whatever and cut

(01:28:18):
corners and think they'll befine.
But at the same time, you reallywant to make this dude famous?
Yeah, right, right, right.
Like, this dude was an asshole.
There's lessons to be learnedhere.
Yes.
But...
It just sucks that this assholeis going to get famous for this.
Thankfully, it'll be more infamythan anything.

(01:28:42):
God damn it, dude.
I know.
I told you.
Some of his employees I feel badfor, too.
That one girl that stayed waylonger than she felt like she
should have, but she was like,it's COVID.
It's good money.
I can't blame her.
I probably would have done thesame shit.
I mean, hell, I worked at ashipping company for...

(01:29:03):
many years longer than i wantedto oh you know shipping company
did you work at i'm kidding i'mkidding i'm kidding i'm joking
i'm joking i'm joking but itrhymes but it rhymes with that's
fucking great that's fuckinggreat are we twins what the fuck

(01:29:27):
The funny thing is when you guyswere saying it, I was saying
that in my head.
I didn't want to interrupt youguys.
You know how amazing that wouldhave been if all three of us
said it at the same fuckingtime.
Right.
Wavelength.
Put a bow on it and wrap thatbitch up.
We would have just ended rightthere.
Oh, yeah.
And we're done.
And on that note, we're good.

(01:29:49):
That was insane, dude.
Couldn't do that again if wetried.
I swear to God.
That's beautiful.
Like Grizz said, there is alesson to be learned there.
And I hope, I'm praying, thatsomebody learns from his
mistakes.

(01:30:09):
I can't even say mistakes.
Because mistakes are somethingthat you don't mean to do,
right?
Right.
True, true, true.
Learn from his negligence.
There you go.
Yes.
That's a better way to put it.
Yes, because that's all thatwas.
It was negligence.
It was arrogance.
Learn from that.
Learn from that.
And of course, the...

(01:30:30):
Coast Guard or whoever it isthey're still doing their
investigation because of coursepeople you know my parents were
asking so I mean how what couldthey do I'm like well because
remember he'd had everybody signa waiver as you should
especially if you're doingsomething in the ocean but
here's the thing when you sign awaiver it is for like accidental

(01:30:50):
death right there is a suchthing as accidental death
accidents happen especially ifyou're going down to the fucking
Titanic there's no telling whatcan happen so question yes Is it
an accidental death if the tourguide, if you will, knows the

(01:31:11):
potential risk?
So that's literally what I wasabout to lead into was if it's
negligence, I believe that thatwaiver is null and void because
it is now a crime.
You knew there were problems.
You knew it was going to fail.
You knew there were problems.
It is now a crime because thisis now murder.
Whether it be manslaughter orwhatever the case may be.

(01:31:35):
Yo, I didn't even think about itlike that.
That's absolutely what it was.
That's some crazy-assmurder-suicide shit.
Yeah, when you break it down,yeah, that's exactly it.
So, of course, my parents werelike, but who do they go after?
Because Stockton is dead.
I'm like, you go after thecompany.
His wife, right?
She's still here.
And you go after the company.
Obviously.
It's going to be the company.
People at that company knewbecause, you know, yes, there

(01:31:57):
were employees that went againstwhat he said, but we all know
what happened to them.
He said, you know, gave him theboot.
But his wife, I can almostguarantee you she knew what the
fuck was up.
I can almost guarantee you that.
But she didn't say anything.
I'm curious to know how much sheactually knew.
So I don't think they'll goafter her.

(01:32:18):
Why not?
Personally, I would because youknow he had a life insurance
policy.
You dive into the Titanic, lifeinsurance policy.
You know it.
You fucking know it.
Whether he knew he had a lifeinsurance policy or not, he got
one.
Yeah, he got one.

(01:32:39):
I'm just saying, I just don'tknow if the family members who
lost people, I don't know I knowthat rich girl is trying to sue
him.
Yes, she is.
Her dad went down.
But I think she's going afterOcean Gate.
Yeah, she's going after thecompany.
I just don't think the wifeherself can be a targeted

(01:33:02):
individual.
Unless she knew something.
If she knew there was a problem,you are now an accessory.
I will say this much even ifshe's like in the clear she will
be a part of the investigationyes she will I do agree with
that if they do find yeah I justI don't know because then it

(01:33:23):
becomes like a he said she saidbecause if they do find where
she may have known well then whydidn't you do anything to stop
them and that's where she'sgonna get some problems that's
where the charges are gonna gettouch to her.
But again, now you've got toprove that I 100% If there's any

(01:33:46):
kind of text messages that weresent back and forth between the
two, emails, anything, anylittle thing that could possibly
show that she knew something anddidn't say anything, she's in
trouble.
I guarantee you she's introuble.
But will somebody go that far?
I don't know.
I'm going to assume thegovernment is going to

(01:34:09):
definitely go after OceanGate.
I mean, they have to.
They're going to investigateOceanGate and probably ask a lot
of people that work there, whathappened?
What did you know?
How much did you know?
What do you do if you're thesecompanies like Boeing or that
pilot even?
that ultimately was the firstperson to resist him.
Let's rewind the clock.

(01:34:33):
You're working with this guy andthese tests keep failing and
you're like, you don't have thebudget for me anymore and you're
bowing and you walk away.
Do you tip off some authoritieslike, hey, you might want to
keep an eye on this company.
There's some weird shit goingon.

(01:34:54):
Or do you just let that shitride?
I mean...
Oftentimes, I think people justlet it ride, obviously.
I think that's what that...
I think nine times out of ten,that's what they're going to do.
Because they're afraid ofretaliation, number one.
But I do know that the pilot guythat we're talking about, if
we're talking about the sameguy, excuse me, he did try to do

(01:35:17):
something about it.
That's true.
He's in a lawsuit, or he was ina lawsuit battle, right?
Right, he was.
The problem was, The company washitting him with like...
Countersuits.
Yeah, countersuits.
I think.
For whatever the fuck it wasthat they were suing him.
Defamation or some shit.
Yeah, something like that.
But they kept going to basicallydrain him of money and just kind

(01:35:41):
of suffocate him until hedecides, okay, well, I can't
continue this.
That's crazy.
That is crazy.
Yeti, did you have something youwanted to...
I was just going to say So theproblem is You go down a fucking
rabbit hole And you just fallFall, fall, fall So anyways So I

(01:36:08):
did look it up They said thatit's highly Unlikely that she
can Face criminal charges Butnot impossible That's not a no
It's highly unlikely But there'sstill a possibility But they
said that where she will be heldaccountable is for civil suits.

(01:36:28):
Right.
Again, the families would haveto do something and go...
What'd you say?
I said the families would haveto do something, take something
civilly.
Yes, because of her positionswithin the company during the
time...
Correct.
Wait, was she a part of thecompany?
Yeah.
Yes.

(01:36:49):
Oh, shit, that changeseverything.
Yeah.
So she held positions likedirector of communications and
member of the expedition teamand was also the personal
representative of Stockton RushReal Estate, placing her in a
position of legallyresponsibility for Ocean Gates
liabilities.

(01:37:09):
However, the primaryresponsibility of the tragedy is
going to fall on Stockton Rush,who is the CEO and designer of
the submersible and hisdecisions to disregard safety
warning.
How are you going to sue a deadman?
That's crazy.
Right.
Well, again, they did it withthe company.

(01:37:31):
No, it's insane.
The whole thing is just reallyshitty.
It's sad.
Yeah, and watching thedocumentary definitely is
eye-opening, in my opinion.
It is.
I have a crazy question for usand the audience if they want to
jump in.
what is more tragic the originaltragedy of the titanic in the

(01:37:58):
what was that like 20s or 30s nono it was it was like 1910 or
some i forget 12 i don't knowearly 1900s is that more tragic
or is this i mean i guess i knowthe answer however i just want
to hear the discourse like whatwhat do we think is more tragic
2 000 people dying crazy deathor like this rich asshole

(01:38:24):
neglecting, you know, handlingof this submersible and then
just like putting people at risk80 times.
88 times.
Hey, Yeti.
Oh, 88 times.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Here we are.
Uh-oh.
Here we are.
Yo, that's, dude, that shouldhave been their red flag.
They should have had you undone.
Yeah, I have 88.

(01:38:45):
Bingo.
Yeah.
Yep.
That's insane, bro.
What a crazy coincidence.
To answer your question, dude, Imean, that's kind of tough.
It is, right?
Because there's so many morepeople that were affected OG.

(01:39:05):
Right.
And it's not like they got ontoa ship that was full of issues.
Right.
To our knowledge.
You know, everything that's beentalked about about the Titanic
ship was it was a beautiful shipand everything worked and
everything was good.
Big, beautiful ship.

(01:39:27):
Yes.
It was a big, beautiful ship.
It was just the damn iceberg.
Yeah, no, it was just theiceberg.
To me, that's sad becauseeverybody was enjoying their
trip.
Right.
I hate that for them it happenedin the middle of the night.
Yeah, because when you're outthere on the ocean, you see

(01:39:49):
nothing.
Right.
And when you watch the movie,granted, it's a movie based on
reality.
It's not real.
It's fake news.
But the history that we knowabout it is somebody on the
ship- Uh, I forget who he was,but he was like, if we, if we,

(01:40:10):
you know, maintain speed, we canarrive early and you know, like
we could get there right beforethe morning and blah, blah,
blah.
And like, that wasn't theoriginal plan.
The original plan was to slowdown at night so they can get,
have a better eye on the, on theicebergs.
So like you got, you got thatkind of mishap mixed with like

(01:40:30):
fog and.
human error.
Let's be honest.
You got some kids up in theeagle's nest watching.
Getting drunk.
Who knows?
You really don't know.
It's the fucking 1900s.
Anything could have happened.
And only so much records werekept.
We have a good idea of whatlikely happened, but there are

(01:40:55):
little variables that we justdon't know.
We had to fill in the blanks.
Because anybody that was there,well...
I mean, you have a few survivorsthat got off on those lifeboats.
And obviously, that was...
a little bit of arrogance ontheir part as well because they
thought that the ship wasunsinkable which led to not
enough lifeboats because theydidn't want it to be this

(01:41:17):
eyesore of, you know, look atall these lifeboats that are on
this thing.
Are you sure this thing's safe?
Wait, can we talk about howthat's a problem too?
Like, I'm tired of these richpeople being like, yeah, I don't
really like that because it'snot my thing.
Who gives a shit if you like it?
Like, I don't give two fucks ifyou think it looks dumb.

(01:41:38):
Like, that's crazy.
And you know what's funny iseven in my line of work, it's
interesting that I can tie thisinto that.
But in my line of work, I doutility work, obviously, for
those of you listening thatdon't know.
But there are so many people,especially in the more high-end
communities.
Privileged group.
Yeah.
The gas meter is the company's.

(01:42:04):
property right so like ifanything were to happen they
need to get access to it thesepeople are like, it's an
eyesore.
So they plant like these massivetrees or rose bushes right in
the front of them.
And now we got to dig through itjust to get to our property.
And I'm like, you fucking dick.
That's crazy.

(01:42:27):
It's crazy, but that's actuallyinsane.
Yeah.
Cause they're like, this looks,this looks ugly on my house.
Well, it's not supposed to lookgood.
It's supposed to give you yourfucking gas.
That's all it's doing.
It's a tool.
Who cares what the fuck it lookslike?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, so, so there's, waysaround that, right?
There could be better ways thanto just slap some bushes around
it.
Yeah, you can get some woodfencing or something like that.

(01:42:50):
Yeah, you can build a structureto surround it and then have
access for those like you whoneed to come and maintain them.
There are people that do that.
It looks almost like anextension of their house.
It'll literally be made ofsiding and they'll have shingles
on top of it to protect it andhave one little hole where you

(01:43:11):
can actually still read themeter, and you can remove it off
of it if you need to get to it.
Do you have to use a controller,like a PS2 controller, to work
on it?
I have to use the PS5controller.
Remember, Grizz, we haveupdated.
My bad, my bad.
It's 2025, man, keep up! But no,there are other ways around it.

(01:43:34):
So at the time that thishappened, was he using...
The newest controller?
No.
I think it was a PS4.
Yeah, a PS4 controller.
Pretty sure.
But if I'm being 100% with you,the PS4 controller looks awful.
Well, there's a funny memethat's floating around where it
shows all the differentcontrollers from Nintendo, Sony,

(01:43:56):
Xbox.
And Sony's on the top and says,if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Xbox is like, it's okay for alittle bit of change.
And then Nintendo's like, whatthe fuck is...
They're like, who fucking cares?
Yeah, because each one is vastlydifferent.
Vastly different! like we'relooking at you in 64 exactly we

(01:44:18):
love fucking change yeah who thefuck thought of that like they
have the joystick in the middleand then these deep the d-pad
that had like no use whatsoeverwhy do we have this wait hold on
i know this is a tangent butit's a question that must be
asked how did you hold the n64on the outsides or did you hold
one hand on the middle yeahInteresting.

(01:44:39):
Interesting.
So I'm crazy.
I held it on the outside.
It would just stretch my thumbto the joystick.
No, my hands are not big enoughfor that.
Not quite sure what to do withmy hands here.
Just put them to your side,Ricky Bobby.
Oh, okay.
Oh, shit.

(01:45:00):
But anyway, to get back ontrack, to answer your question,
Grizz, because I know we'vetaken a very long detour, I
would probably say that bothincidents have their tragedy
behind it.
Like Stockton knew better andlied to a lot of people to get
them into this fucking deathtube, and I absolutely hate it

(01:45:20):
for them, and that's where I'mI'm like, that's the tragedy.
He basically took your...
Yes, they're top 1%.
They're the people that canafford to do that, but still,
you don't deserve to be...
They're still people.
Right, they're still people, andyou don't deserve to be lied to
to get on something like that.
The Titanic obviously had...
Did it have problems?

(01:45:40):
No.
Did it have some things thatwere overlooked because they
thought it was unsinkable?
Sure.
As you said, Grizz, human error.
Human error.
It was hubris, mostly, thatbrought the fucking shit down.
So it's like, they're bothtragedies in their own right,
but for me, I'm going to go offand say that Titanic is going to

(01:46:01):
be just a little bit more of ahuge tragedy.
Because, like you said, therewere a lot more people involved
in something that could havebeen avoided, maybe.
Possibly.
We don't know.
As opposed to Stockton Rush, whojust was like, we might make it,

(01:46:23):
we might not, but, you know,hold on.
Hold on, we're going.
The clue's in his surname,right?
He's just rushing on down there.
Exactly, exactly.
No, I think I'm with you, Jay.
I think that the Titanic is moretragic, but the fact that the

(01:46:45):
ocean gate even rivals it isinsane.
No, you're right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's up?
What's up Yeti?
Speak your mind.
No, no, no, no.
I'm just, I'm just, I'm justthinking about everything that
we've been talking about.
And I mean, you're hitting thenail on the head with everything

(01:47:05):
that's being said, you know,it's, it's crazy to think that
this, I'm going to use thisword.
I don't like using littleaccident.
or whatever you want to call it,rivals such a big accident.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think that's where it ishard to call the Titan sub an

(01:47:28):
accident.
Because, again, an accident issomething that is unexpected.
For me, for me, an accident issomething that is unexpected.
Like, I don't expect to hit mytoe every morning when I walk,
when I wake up coming out ofbed, right?
But if I cut the corner a littletoo sharply and I hit my toe, I
accidentally stubbed my toe.
I didn't go up and kick thefucking door.
For me, Stockton literally waslike, hey, I wonder...

(01:47:52):
Kick! Ah! Yeah, that does hurt.
This will hurt my toe.
Right.
Fuck.
Hey, engineer, how do I kickthis door without it hurting my
toe?
Exactly.
Try steel toes.
No.
No, no, no.
I don't want to wear steel toes.
I don't like that.
I don't like that idea.
I'm going to try this againtomorrow morning and see if it
changes.
What?

UNKNOWN (01:48:14):
Yeah.
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (01:48:15):
That's the type of shit Stockton Rush was on.
So for me, it is hard to call itan accident, but it is an
accident for the most part,right?
I mean, at the end of the day.
100%.
There were four other people onthere that had no clue what the
fuck was going on with it.
It was an accident for them.
Yes.
It was an accident for them.

(01:48:35):
For him, it was just a...
Will we, won't we?
Exactly.
It was another Tuesday.
Another flip of the coin.
He was like, you know what,guys?
I make my own luck.
Bruh, stop watching Batman.
Where's Harvey Dent?
Exactly.
Harvey, Harvey, Harvey Dent.

(01:48:56):
But anyway...
Good talk.
Anybody for our listeners thatare curious, again, we are
talking about the documentarieson the streaming services, one
on Netflix called Titan, theother is on Max called
Implosion.
If you are curious and just wantto really hate somebody for the

(01:49:17):
next three hours of your life,take a look at those.
Take a look at thosedocumentaries.
It's interesting.
Again, they're similar in thestories they tell with Stockton
Rush, but they do the NetflixNetflix version focuses again a
lot on the fuckery that happenedin Ocean Gate and the Max side
shows more of the investigationwhich was really interesting to

(01:49:40):
see which obviously is ongoingand I'm sure will be some time
before anything actually happenswith Ocean Gate and I'm sure
that's probably gonna be just asbig as the Diddy trial if not
bigger so we have that to lookforward to Speaking of
documentaries.

(01:50:01):
I got a question, though.
The word Titanic, it's a funnyword to me.
Because it's big?
No.
Or because it has tits in it.
Yeah, so how come we pronounceit that way?
Like, for example...
I can't believe that I nailedthat.
You did.
You know what's crazier?
That was a blind leap.
He fucking crushed it.

(01:50:24):
That was an Assassin's Creedleap of faith from the top rope,
dude.
He's like, yeah, absolutely.
He has tits in it.
It ends with N-I-C.
Titanic ends with N-I-C, soshouldn't it be called Titanic?
No, it's Titanic.
No, Titanic.
No, it's Titanic.

(01:50:44):
See, fun fact is, we don'treally have a lot of recordings
from back then.
There you go.
So there probably was at least afew people going around being
like, hey, I'm going to catch aride on the Titanic.
On the Titanic.
On the Titanic.
I'm going to get on the Titanic.
Titanic.
Titanic.
Titanic.
Titanic.
No, that's not how that works.
That's not how that works.

(01:51:05):
That's not how that works atall.
Oh, okay.
Oh, well.
Missed opportunity.
I'm sorry, guys.
I tried.
I asked my wife that last night,and she just shook her head and
went to bed.
Appropriate.
Appropriate reaction to that.
Because Yeti, if it was up toYeti, he would have painted...
I gotta wake up in the morning.
If it was up to Yeti, he wouldhave painted a big old pair of

(01:51:27):
tits on the Titanic.
He'd be like, it is now theTitanic.
No.
Titanic.
Unseekable Titanic.

UNKNOWN (01:51:37):
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (01:51:37):
Ooh, can I rub them?
Can you imagine?
No, they have barnacles on them.
Right.
Can you imagine christening thatkind of ship?
Don't hit my titties.
I don't need to bring motorsbecause I can just have people
motorboating.
Motorboating, son of a bitch.
And we're moving.

(01:51:58):
Nice.
Nice.
It's amazing how we can go froma serious conversation to jokes
in like 2.5 seconds.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
So yeah, take a look at thosedocumentaries if you're curious.
And yeah, let us know how youfeel about everything that you
learn.
Are you cool with what he did?
I hope you're not.

(01:52:21):
Would you sign up?
Yeah, no shit.
Would you sign up for somethinglike that?
Because I'm going to tell youright now, that's a no for me,
dog.
Yeah.
Yeah, just fire off in thecomments.
Let us know your thoughts on allof that.
With that being said, who wantssome fun and games?

(01:52:42):
Let's do it.
So, I have a couple of options.
Hang on, let me get to it first.
Okay.
I'm going to give you a coupleof things here, and I want to
know...
There are some discontinueditems from McDonald's that I'm
going to list for you.
And I...

(01:53:02):
Le gasp.
I want to know whichdiscontinued item you would
bring back if you could.
Ooh, I love this game already.
All right.
So, first up, we have the friedapple pie.
Then we have the Cheddar MeltSandwich.

(01:53:23):
Then the Big and Tasty.
The Steak and Fries.
The Arch Deluxe.
Or the Mixed Salad Shakers.
The Mixed Salad Shakers werelike in a cup, right?
Yes.
So which of those did you have?
They were good.

(01:53:43):
Who's really going to McDonald'sfor that product?
They still have salads.
They do still have salads.
Right, but if someone is like, Ireally wish I had a salad that I
could put in my cup holder,they're not going to McDonald's.
To be fair, listen, I understandthat, but to be fair, with all

(01:54:03):
this healthiness going on andpeople on these health kicks,
you would be shocked.
Honestly, I can almost guaranteeyou that there are more people
than we even care to realizewould be more than happy to have
uh mick shakers back and to behonest with you i could actually
that's my stripper name to behonest what shaker i could

(01:54:26):
obviously find myself fallinginto that category to be honest
with you because there's timesmc shaker there's times where i
just want something light andthat's perfect Oh, yeah.
That's fair.
Honestly, I just remember theMcSalad Shakers just being so
convenient, number one.
Because literally, you just pourthat shit in there, shake it up,

(01:54:46):
you have a whole fucking saladin a cup.
And I'm like, what?
That is nice.
I feel like I've seen thataround here in Seattle.
It still exists, just not forMcDonald's.
Okay.
Right.
Some of the bodegas, there'sthis place...
I forget the name of it, butthey do a bunch of green stuff.

(01:55:08):
They're known for being thesalad place.
Gotcha.
I feel like I've seen a tallcylindrical version of that.
Me, personally, I think I wantthe fried apple pie.
Oh.
Because you can tell.
When they brought out the bakedapple pie, I was like, I want my

(01:55:35):
deep fried apple pie.
Come on.
There's apples in it.
It's called counter thefriedness.
Exactly.
Hello.
Come on.
No, that's a good pick becausethose fried apple pies.
They should at least offer it.
Have the baked and then have afried.

(01:55:55):
Offer the fried apple pie.
No, I'm with you.
Yeti, what would you bring back?
It's tough.
No, it's tough because I leantoward the McSalad Shakers,
whatever they're fucking called.
But the Big and Tasty, though.

(01:56:18):
That motherfucker slaps.
Don't lie.
That's your stripper name, isn'tit?
Big and Tasty?
Hell yeah, it is.
And I guarantee you he is worth99 cents.
Every penny, daddy.
Every penny.
I'm kidding.
No, I think it's going to be thefucking Big and Tasty, bro.

(01:56:39):
Okay.
I mean, it's just, it was sosimple yet so good.
Yeah.
I feel like the Big and Tastywas almost McDonald's
counterpart to the Whopper.
100% because what was on itbecause what they have now is
like the quarter poundersupposed to be the Whopper-ish

(01:57:00):
kind of sort of no because itdoesn't have lettuce they do the
Whopper doesn't have lettuce yesWhopper does does it?
lettuce tomato onion you can geta quarter pounder with cheese
deluxe you can get a deluxe thatis basically the big and tasty

(01:57:21):
now so i mean whatever but forme i'd have to agree with yeti
the big and tasty because thebig and tasty every time as a
kid every time we went that'sall i ever fucking ordered it's
all i got ask yeti he fuckingknows hey you know you know what
a good hack It was only 99cents.

(01:57:43):
That's why I said he's probablyonly worth 99 cents.
That's crazy work.
This was 100% supposed to be thefucking Junior Whopper.
What's the present?
The Whopper.
Oh, yeah.
Excuse me.
A good McDonald's hack foranybody out there that really

(01:58:04):
likes McDonald's.
They probably already know thehack if they're McDonald's
enthusiasts.
Oh, for sure.
But you can get the McDouble Andthen substitute mustard and
onion for mac sauce.
Yep.
And it's basically a Big Macwithout the middle bun.
So way back in the day, I don'tknow if they offer it now.

(01:58:24):
I don't think they do.
But if you did order a doublecheeseburger, they actually did
have an option if you went in tomake– your, your, uh,
substitutions or whatever, theyhad a like Mac button.
So literally you just, Oh,that's cool.
Yeah.
You hit like a Mac and it sendsit back to the kitchen to where

(01:58:46):
it lets them know, okay, theywant Mac sauce, onion, lettuce,
cheese, pickles, all that kindof basically what comes on a
double cheeseburger.
We got to bring that back.
Hey, Ronald, if you're listeningnow, bring that, bring that
button back.
Do you guys remember when theyhad, they came out with three
versions of the big Mac?

(01:59:06):
Yes.
Vaguely.
Didn't they have, like, a miniMac and, like, a Mega Mac?
Yeah, it was like, yes, yes,yes.
And I...
Hey, do you guys remember...
Motherfuckers.
No shit.
Do you guys remember the chickenBig Mac that McDonald's had for
a little bit?
That was atrocious.
Bro.
You can say what you want.
Did you try it?

(01:59:26):
My God, it was so good.
Okay.
Okay.
Hold on.
Pause.
I think I got done dirty.
I think I, I think I gotyesterday's chicken patties.
I took one bite of that thingand it was like, Oh yeah.
I was like, nah, this is theworst thing I've ever had.
I literally, I've never notfinished food at McDonald's.

(01:59:47):
I didn't eat it.
Really?
I was like, nah, I'm good onthis.
It was just, It was likeeating...
It was bread, lettuce, macsauce, cracker.
Bread, lettuce, mac sauce, othercracker, bread.
If it was that crispy, that's aproblem.
Because every time...
Dude, it was not an...
It felt like they put two hockeypucks in there.

(02:00:09):
I want a fucking Big Mac now.
There you go.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
Two all-be-petty-petty sauces.
Like, I just looked it up.
It was called the Mac Junior.
Then you had the normal Big Mac.
And then you got the Grand Mac.
The Grand Mac.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah, I remember that.
I remember that.

(02:00:29):
But no, like, that chicken BigMac.
Grand Mac Flash.
Yeah, no shit.
That chicken Big Mac, though,like, it tasted like, It was
just a giant chicken nugget.
It was like their chickennuggets on the Big Mac because
the breading they had on thatchicken was the same breading
the chicken nuggets had.
It wasn't the same as the bigchicken.
It wasn't the same as the crispychicken.
It was its own chicken.

(02:00:51):
And when I had it, I was like,it tastes just like a fucking
chicken nugget.
I was like, these sons ofbitches.
That's what they did.
That's what they did.
They enlarged the nugget, put iton a Big Mac.
That's funny.
Let me ask you, have you orderedthe McChicken and then added mac
sauce to it?
Yes.
Never.
I've never done that.

(02:01:12):
That doesn't sound good to me atall.
It's delicious.
Alright, so this conversation isfor Jay and I only.
Yeti, you can play on your phonefor the next couple minutes.
Take a nap.
Because That's why I was sodisappointed when I had that
chicken mac.
Because I will often get theMcChicken because it's like the
only thing that's like close toa dollar anymore.

(02:01:33):
It's no longer a dollar here inSeattle.
It's like a dollar and you haveto give blood or some shit.
You don't have the dollar menuover there in Seattle?
I don't think they know what adollar is anymore.
The closest thing that we knowto a dollar is Starbuck.
But anyway, I digress.

(02:01:57):
So I would get the McChicken andthen I would add mac sauce
because the app makes it soeasy.
You just press a check mark andit's good to go.
And so I was like, oh, I want totry that.
I order it under delivered.
Like I'm telling you.
I must have pissed someone off.
Probably.
I must have been like, fry thembitches again.
Because it was harder thanrocks.

(02:02:22):
I was so pissed.
I was so disappointed.
So I guess my question is goingto be this.
Excuse me.
What time are you orderingthese?
Is it afternoon?
Is it late?
The only time I tried it, Iwouldn't say it was late, but it
was...
It was after your typical dinnerrush, but, like, before 10

(02:02:44):
o'clock.
Okay.
So, like, it was, like, between6 and 10.
Like, it wasn't late late, butit was probably, like, 7 or 8.
I'm just curious if it was,like, maybe you caught him right
after a rush or something andyou were just getting, like,
left over shit.
Maybe.
Yeah, or, like, maybe there was,like...
the the last couple patties theyhad on the fucking slider right

(02:03:06):
you know what i mean that littleplastic tray that they put them
in maybe they just been sittingin there and just got dried or
some shit like so so i do i tryto give things benefit of the
doubt but like that i was likei'm not even gonna try it again
i was so mad i was like no neveragain i'm not getting i'm not
getting caught twice Fool meonce, that's it.

(02:03:30):
So I don't know if you knowabout this.
I don't know if you know thisabout me, Grizz, but my very
first job was working atMcDonald's.
So anything that you've tried ontheir menu, save for all the new
stuff, I've probably tried.
You've already made.
Bro, I was probably theoriginator.
They're making shit that you'relike, dude, I used to do that

(02:03:52):
shit when I was like 17.
Swear to God, when they came outwith the fucking snack wraps, we
were so pissed because we usedto have much bigger breakfast
burritos.
And I miss them so fucking much.
Same.
Legitimately, they used to have.
Because now they're like Midgey.

(02:04:13):
No, they're little.
Can I say Midgey?
I don't know.
Listen, we can say that.
You already did.
What do you mean?
So they had come out with a newbreakfast burrito that literally
was like, it was almost the sizeof a Chipotle burrito.
And it was like, it was madewith, it was one slice of

(02:04:33):
cheese, but you cut it in half.
And then you had a sausage thatyou cut in half and you put in
the middle.
And then they had this mix thatwas like potatoes, eggs, and,
you know, a couple other things,like some onions, green peppers.
And then you put that on there,and then they had a Roja sauce.
And oh my God, it was the bestfucking breakfast burrito
McDonald's ever made.

(02:04:54):
so they had bigger tortillas andwhat we used to do was take
their chicken selects and we'dput the chicken selects on there
and then like honey mustard orranch or barbecue sauce with
lettuce tomato and bacon and wehad snack wraps before snack
wraps were a thing and thensnack wraps came out and we were
like these motherfuckers sothere's my royalty right I had a

(02:05:19):
similar thing happen to me atBurger King with what so Okay so
We used to take like the I tooklike the hamburger bun The
smaller one not the whopper sizethe small one I'd get three This
is when they had Their chickentenders were Slightly different
back in the day They were alittle bit They weren't like

(02:05:41):
super super long but they were alittle bit More long than they
were wide They were like oblongright Yes yes So what I would do
is I would Put three of thosebad boys on the bun I'd get a
top bun, put lather up somemayo, and their barbecue sauce.
And I would put that bitchtogether.
And it was fucking delicious.

(02:06:03):
I kid you not.
I kid you not.
Probably about six to sevenmonths after I did it, they came
out with them.
What?
Somebody was watching.
It was a very simple sandwich,too.
And I think they sold it forlike 99 cents.
And they said, hey, this looksso fucking good.
Somebody made it, tried it, andsaid, this man right here knows

(02:06:25):
how to make a sandwich.
So we're going to steal hisidea, and he ain't going to see
a fucking dime.
I'm waiting for Subway to stealmy sandwich that I've been
making there.
So Subway used to have buffalochicken on the menu, right?
Yes.
And they discontinued theirbuffalo sauce.
They no longer carry it.

(02:06:46):
And they've replaced it with acreamy sriracha.
Okay.
So I am a creature of habit anddon't like new things sometimes.
So I was in there and dude waslike, we only got one bottle of
hot sauce left.
I'm the only one that orders thebuffalo chicken.
So he was like, I'll keep it inthe back of the fridge for you.
I tore through this.

(02:07:07):
bottle i was the only person toorder the sandwich i had it for
a good like two months you knowbecause like i just i just go to
subway uh for lunch when i wheni'm working at the hotel and um
we get through it he's like nowwe're out of the buffalo sauce
he's like we do have this creamysriracha would you like me to
like basically make the samesandwich using creamy sriracha

(02:07:30):
see if we like it and i was likeyeah let's do it we did it and
now like when i go in there thesubway that i go to Almost all
the employees, I walk in,they're like, spicy chicken?
And I'm like, spicy chicken,let's go.
So I'm trying to get this damnsandwich named after me, like
the grizz monster or some shit.

(02:07:51):
I mean, I would just, I'd try tomake it like, you know,
sometimes less is more and justcall it the grizzly or some shit
like that.
But I don't know.
I mean, they'd have to put yourface right next to it.
They would need his face.
100%.
Yeah, they'd need his face andthat beard right next to it.
Uh-huh.
So look at that.
Trip down memory lane.
Y'all are welcome.
So you heard what we would bringback.

(02:08:12):
Fire off in the comments whichdiscontinued item from
McDonald's you would bring backif you are, you know, if you
want to.
Now, who wants a fun fact?
Let's hear it.
Did you know...
Did you know...
Y'all ready for this?

(02:08:34):
That deaf people are known touse sign language in their
sleep.
Is that equivalent to sleeptalking?
So...
That's a crazy joke.
That is a crazy joke.
It's a good joke, but it's acrazy one.

(02:08:58):
But...
He's kind of not wrong.
So do deaf people do signlanguage in their sleep?
Let me read this to you.
Anecdotally, some people who'velearned sign language do
occasionally use it in theirsleep.
There's not a lot of scientificdata, but one 2017 case study

(02:09:21):
describes a 71-year-old man witha severe hearing impairment who
also had rapid eye movement orREM sleep behavior disorder.
This involves a loss ofparalysis during REM sleep, and
the man was observed signingfluently The researchers could
even get an idea of what he wasdreaming about by decoding his

(02:09:43):
signs.
So he was basically signing.
That's pretty crazy.
Yeah, he was basically signingwhat he was seeing in his
dreams.
I'd freak out and think you wereclaiming a set.
Yo, man.
You just flushed up crib.
What, cuz?
This is my hood.
This is my block.

(02:10:03):
What's wrong with you?
Come on now.
Why did you murder this man?
Man, we were sleeping and heflashed up blood.
Yeah, he threw up all kinds ofgang signs.
I didn't know what to do.
I was worried.
But there's your fun fact.
Fire off in the comments on howyou feel about that if you're
hearing impaired.
Let us know, like, Has anybodyever mentioned that to you?

(02:10:27):
If they ever caught you doingthat in your sleep?
Do you know if you do that inyour sleep?
Let us know.
We are interested in hearingyour stories.
Want to know what I do in mysleep?
I don't.
No.
Two no's.
That means you can't share.
Come on.
Come on.
One person say what.
I tell you what.
I tell you what.
You write it down.

(02:10:48):
No.
No.
No.
No.
You will laugh when I tell youwhat I do.
Oh, my God.
I don't even want to know.
You know what?
I'm going to regret this.
Yeah.
But do it.
I have an evil laugh.
You know, I didn't expect that.
That's so underwhelming.

UNKNOWN (02:11:10):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (02:11:12):
What'd you say, Jay?
I said that's so underwhelming.
I have an evil laugh.
Okay, so you laugh evilly inyour sleep.
Like you have some sort offucking evil genius plan to take
over the world.
Oh, no.
He's like, one million dollars.
Okay, let me change it.
It's more like a scary laugh.
It's more like a scary laugh.

(02:11:35):
And when I laugh, I scare Emily.
And I want sharks with freakinglaser beams on their head.
Could you imagine Sharknado withthat?
No, that'd be kind of scary.
But no, that is pretty crazythat you have a fucking evil
laugh while you're sleeping.
Because I will say, if I everheard that in the middle of the

(02:11:56):
night, Burn the whole housedown.
Burn it down.
Start anew.
What's crazy is Emily's used toit, but it scares her for a
little bit.
But she'll be like, You laughedagain last night.
I'm like, oh, sorry.
Well, you know what?
Tell her I give her permissionto just sock you while you're
sleeping.

(02:12:16):
Whenever you laugh very evilly.
Because that's evil, right?
You gotta get the evil out.
So just hit him as hard as youcan.
True.
I rebuke you! She's exercisingthe demons, bro.
Wow.
I rebuke you! I rebuke you! Irebuke you.
That's crazy.

(02:12:37):
She busts out the whole exactlygo sleep on the fucking couch so
anyway I know we're coming up totime so lastly I think we're
actually over a little bit butlastly what I want to mention
here's what I want to mentiontop listening area for the month

(02:12:59):
is anybody curious Yeah, let'sdo it.
Germany.
I don't know.
He said Germany.
So, Grizz, you're not wrong.
Germany is, but they're tied.
They are tied.
Hang on, let me go to locations.
So they are tied.
Again, I always do just the lastfive episodes just to get a

(02:13:19):
really good idea on what the topfive are.
We don't have a top five.
I mean, we do, but we don't.
So everybody's kind of tied forthe top three, right?
So we have two places tied forthe first spot, and that would
be Dayton, Ohio and Frankfurt,Germany.
Our German friends are stilllistening.

(02:13:41):
And for second place, we haveone, two, three, four places
tied for second place.
Whoa.
And that would be Edgewood,Kentucky, Lakeside, California,
Westerville, Ohio, and Columbus,Ohio.

(02:14:04):
It's so weird places.
It's random spots.
I love it.
And then we have four tied forthird place.
And that would be PortWashington, Wisconsin, Xenia,
Ohio.
Still don't know who the fuck islistening in Xenia.
Knoxville, Tennessee, andLouisville, Kentucky.

(02:14:25):
Okay.
I'm concerned about Knoxville,right?
Because I...
Oh, wait, no, never mind.
I'm thinking of Fort Knox.
That's in Kentucky.
I just remembered that.
I was going to be like, what FBIagent is listening?
No, no, no, no, Tennessee,Tennessee, Tennessee.
This is so...
How bad?
It's all random.

(02:14:45):
But no, it is, but people arelistening.
That's crazy.
People are listening, and I'msure they want to hear that we
recognize that, we see that.
Who would listen to this shit?
I hope a lot of people.
The coolest people...
On the motherfucking planet.
Thank you, Chris.
Jesus Christ.
What do you mean?
Who would listen to this shit?
I listen to it.
I hope everybody else listens toit.

(02:15:07):
If not, it is what it is.
With that being said, please donot forget, if you do listen to
us on Buzzsprout, we have anoption to text us.
There's a little text us thingright above the description that
you can just click on, and it'llpop up this little box, this
little thing to communicatewith, just like texting on a
phone.

(02:15:27):
And you can be like, hey, guys,love your work, or y'all suck,
get off the air.
Just give us something.
Let us know how we're doing.
We love feedback, right?
Whether good or bad.
Let us know how we're doing, andmaybe we can read shit on air.
We can let you know that we'rereading that, too.

(02:15:47):
Just give it a go.
Let us know what's going on.
We'll wrap this up with a prettylittle bow.
Please join us next time in thenext two weeks.
This is where I'm going to say,because when we did our...
volunteering at the air show,Yeti, our buddy Pat brought up a

(02:16:10):
really good topic for next showthat I want to use about
scammers.
Fishing texts, emails, phonecalls, because Okay, so I read a
few for Pat and Yeti while wewere going up there.
I'm not going to, but it justdepends on the mood that I'm in,

(02:16:32):
on if I want to interact withthese things.
And I'm telling you right now,I'm going to read a few on the
air.
Just so you have an idea, Grizz,on how I fuck with these people.
Nice.
I think you'll find it fun.
But we can talk about scammersand if you've ever interacted
with them or what have you, whatto look out for, all that kind

(02:16:55):
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