September 27, 2025 • 52 mins
Workplace boundaries aren't just HR policy – they're essential safeguards for your career and personal life. This raw, unfiltered conversation pulls back the curtain on why mixing romance with your professional life creates a perfect storm of complications that few relationships survive.
We're getting brutally honest about those office "work husbands" and "work wives" dynamics that blur professional lines. When your coworker brings you home-cooked meals in Tupperware, is it really just friendly generosity, or the first step toward something that could upend multiple lives? Our personal experiences and observations from both sides of these situations offer cautionary tales worth heeding.
The conversation shifts to exploring our hometown of Athens, Georgia – a community rich with overlooked talent that rarely receives proper recognition until validated elsewhere. From Kenny Rogers and Titus Burgess to countless musicians and creators, we examine why this cultural disconnect exists and the importance of supporting local talent from day one. What does it say about a community when its greatest champions must leave to find success?
We also tackle friendship dynamics, particularly the striking differences between male and female friendships when success enters the equation. Why do women often celebrate your wins while men sometimes harbor jealousy? The uncomfortable truth about financial disparities between friends reveals how money changes relationships in ways we rarely discuss openly. By the episode's end, we've covered everything from workplace ethics to hometown loyalty, with authenticity as our guiding principle throughout this journey through professional and personal boundaries.
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SPEAKER_01 (00:01):
Yo with four steppers only.
Mr.
Recipe.
SPEAKER_00 (00:07):
Hey man, we cooking up, man.
The cookup is real, man.
Off the menu, man.
We stepping on y'all, man.
What's happening?
What's happening?
What's happening?
Hey, y'all already know who Iam.
Hey, man.
Hey, guess what, man?
Jeff.
Time three, man.
Cooking up.
What's happening?
SPEAKER_01 (00:23):
But hey, man, shit.
Hey, this is a long time coming,Chef.
Man, hey.
I don't think thesemotherfuckers are ready for this
shit at all.
Because I'm gonna go ahead andtell you, man, shit.
We've been talking about a lotof shit before the cameras even
start rolling.
So we had to goddamn get it intothis shit.
But shit, hey, Chef, like wewere talking about.
Why, hey, everybody we got themat me talking about something
like hey Jack, hey Jack, I wannahear this.
(00:44):
I wanna hear that.
I wanna hear this.
I wanna hear that.
But the most common thing thatpeople want to talk about, they
want to hear is why should I notfuck my co-workers?
SPEAKER_00 (00:54):
Man, that's a crazy subject, especially when y'all
got no uh them at-work husbandsand all that, no at-work wives
and stuff.
Well, what you talking about?
But I seen I'm I'm from I'm fromthe class city, man, and you
know, some people call itcountry, some people call it say
we slow or whatever, but I heywhat man, for for our area, man,
we've been uh light speed for along time.
(01:17):
You feel what I'm saying?
And uh in our area, bro, we wecountry, bro.
We'll we're hey, they don't carenothing about that show girl.
Hell no.
SPEAKER_01 (01:26):
Shit, hey, I'll let her kiss you before you get out
of the car with her.
SPEAKER_00 (01:29):
But guess what?
SPEAKER_01 (01:30):
She's gonna bring me a plate in the work, goddamn it.
I'll tell you that.
SPEAKER_00 (01:33):
And they be and the bad part, they they looking at
you while they do it, they'relike, oh yeah, man.
He he kissed her, but they mightthat my bitch.
That my bitch.
Like, dang, y'all rough.
SPEAKER_01 (01:43):
So somebody brought some shit to me at work the
other night, right?
Talking about some Jack.
I said, What's up?
Um, have you seen such and such?
I said, No, I ain't seen them.
Yeah, because uh they and thethese two individuals ended up
getting a place together.
She left her husband, left herkid, and just got doing moved,
changed jobs and everything.
(02:04):
Moved, they get when they got aplace, and at the same time, he
was still fucking my homegirl.
SPEAKER_00 (02:12):
Boy, I said that is diabolical.
One thing about it, and I hateto say this, us as men, we are
terrible, right?
But we don't get past first baseunless the woman lets us get
there.
So I don't, I'm not sittingthere trying to blame it on the
women, but y'all got a big toehole of the bulk ownership of
(02:39):
this situation.
Because the cool thing about itis, if you don't, my mama used
to tell me this, my grandma usedto tell me when I was young, if
she don't open her legs, youcan't nothing happen.
SPEAKER_01 (02:49):
You were you damn right.
SPEAKER_00 (02:51):
So what if whatever I said or whatever, how have I
looked or whatever I had madeyou open your legs into
yourself, then I'm gonna be mad.
It's a free pick.
SPEAKER_01 (03:04):
The way I look at it is a free pick.
SPEAKER_00 (03:06):
Free game.
SPEAKER_01 (03:07):
Because I mean, I ain't gonna hold you shit.
That shit happened to me.
SPEAKER_00 (03:10):
Okay.
It can happen to everybody.
I got it.
I can't say that.
I uh in my my younger days, Ihaven't did the same depending
on the situation.
SPEAKER_01 (03:20):
Because I mean, like we tell, like we like me and you
were talking, like, like I'mlike if I'm beefing with you,
I'm not gonna goddamn hit yourpockets.
I'm not gonna call the police onwhat you're doing, telling you
what you're doing.
SPEAKER_00 (03:31):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01 (03:31):
Bro, I'm gonna go for your heart.
SPEAKER_00 (03:33):
I'm gonna go for your heart.
And and and I'm from an area,I'm from, I'm from ATH.
And like I was telling mypartner low last night, I'm from
where all these haters, allthese hoes, and all these
hustlers at, right?
So, so uh, I'm gonna be realwith you.
We don't care nothing about you,Monica.
We getting money.
Yeah.
Like we getting money, and if weain't getting money, we
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straight.
Yeah.
You feel what I'm saying?
So at the end of the day, wewanna uh feel you hurt
personally.
Hey, uh, you know, we want wewant to make sure that when we
sit, we reason about the laugh,like man, man, you don't even
know where it got that.
Well, you ain't know what it is.
But you don't know what y'allhave did.
I got a video that y'all gotdown getting the paint and a
paste painting.
(04:15):
Hey boy, go check this out, boy.
She got that.
Hey, but ain't that such andsuch an old lady?
Oh yeah.
And all they want to know, theydon't even want you to know
directly.
They just want someone orsomeone to know and do like
everybody looking at you whenyou come into the plant looking
at you like yourself.
Looking like crazy.
But get what?
The bad part about acting,everybody probably not even
(04:39):
looking crazy.
Because so fat.
Shoot.
They know you got uh at-workwife.
Yup.
SPEAKER_01 (04:46):
Yup.
Because I mean, let's let's likewe um I've talked about this on
another episode.
Don't you bring that Tupperwarehome that she done brought you
to work?
When she brought you that meal.
Yup.
You don't you don't bring thatTupperware home.
SPEAKER_00 (04:58):
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (05:00):
Because I mean, shoot, it's like because a lot
of these motherfuckers that gotat-work wives and at work at
work husbands, I'm just glad gota significant other at home.
SPEAKER_00 (05:08):
Look, I'm just glad I'm a chef.
I ain't never need nobody tocook for me at all.
I ain't never had thatsituation.
But I I'll take some shit forlater.
SPEAKER_01 (05:16):
I know what you talking about, something that I
can throw away.
SPEAKER_00 (05:19):
I'll take some chicken nuggets.
SPEAKER_01 (05:20):
I know that right.
Hey, you want hey, look, look,you fuck around, leave that
goddamn tupperware with me ifyou want to.
That bitch gonna end up withinthe trash.
That shit ain't going nowhereclose to my residence, my car,
or nowhere else.
SPEAKER_00 (05:31):
And I know they're crazy, but I got to say this.
SPEAKER_01 (05:33):
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_00 (05:36):
And this episode of For Steppers and the Recipe Pile
off the menu is brought to youby Snapper.
I just be trying to get himmoney, man.
SPEAKER_01 (05:46):
Hey, hey, hey man, let me tell you something, man.
Shit, but but that's all it'sabout though.
SPEAKER_00 (05:49):
Yeah, we playing the Monopoly game.
We might we're gonna getsomething.
SPEAKER_01 (05:52):
I mean, this chest never checkers.
I mean, shit, that's like that'slike right now, we're trying to
get a god-done sponsorship rightnow for screwball.
SPEAKER_00 (05:59):
Let's, let's, and that's that's the point.
You know what I'm saying?
Let's how we gonna make, and Ireally love and embrace a lot of
different podcasters.
So you can see how we can make,because I see what they're
doing, I see what Dame Dash, Isee what Cameron doing, I see
what May's doing, I see what UpDell Podcast's doing.
(06:20):
I'm watching y'all, and Irespect the game that you giving
a young podcaster like us.
So we start learning how tocross you live you live this
money and try to get thesesponsorships and turn up our
podcast, invest to ourselves tomake sure that we get the way
y'all we want, we want to get nofit.
I hear y'all talking no 15Ks amonth.
Hey, Tarren Gangster Williamover that talking about he make
(06:41):
more money than I make workingin a month.
Bro, no.
And I and I ain't hating becauseI done known about Terren Gates
Williams since I was a kid whenno one knew about Terren Gates
Williams.
But see this.
But we got stories that we couldtell about Athens uh and around
our surrounding counters for ahundred thousand people that's
(07:03):
there, we should be getting20,000 views.
Of course.
SPEAKER_01 (07:06):
But it's but it's about a popularity contest with
a lot of these motherfuckers.
Correct.
Or or like like the because thethe one thing that pisses me off
the most, y'all niggas to gofuck with a TF.
Y'all niggas to go fuck withcelebrities.
Y'all go for niggas to go fuckwith this, y'all niggas go fuck
with that, and not fuck withyour exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (07:22):
You only show your friend music.
Oh god.
And I said I show T1 music, Isaid, I shell uh nerd music, and
y'all will support everybody.
Y'all will tell uh uh youngConnor happy birthday for you.
Tell your best friend you grewup with for school, who give you
$20 anytime you need.
(07:42):
Happy birthday.
SPEAKER_01 (07:44):
Big facts, big facts.
Because like like I tell peopleall the time, like anybody I
fuck with on a personable level,I share your shit.
I'll put your shit on the pod.
I'll goddamn get you get yousitting over here with me.
Yeah, I said, but anybody thatsit over here with me, I fuck
with on a personable level.
It ain't just oh, they justshowing up to the pod because
(08:06):
they need a platform to speakon.
Yeah, they might need thatplatform, but I fuck with them
when the cameras are rolling orwhen the cameras are off.
SPEAKER_00 (08:13):
We were we were talking podcast shit before we
even start rolling.
We should have just recordedthat coming in dope.
SPEAKER_01 (08:20):
Bro, we were talking podcast shit on live on live
last night.
SPEAKER_00 (08:24):
We we was up at six o'clock in the morning to drop
podcast.
They done they done they done uhwhat Jimmy Kimball, they the CK.
We make sure I can't talk nomore because I've been talking,
I've been there with my homie,old school OG for acting, man.
Low from the infamous group LowDown and Dirty, notorious South.
One of my uh rap idols from myhometown.
(08:45):
Well, the pioneer.
So the pioneer of this thing.
Ain't nothing dirty, man.
SPEAKER_01 (08:49):
Ain't nothing like a peacancy.
SPEAKER_00 (08:51):
Ain't nothing but like a pequan seed.
SPEAKER_01 (08:53):
Oh, hey, oh, you tell them chocolate.
SPEAKER_00 (08:55):
Chocolate, man.
So in between no hedge, man.
What are you talking about?
So, like, just to be able totalk with uh this wonderful uh
student of the game and uhmentor of the game uh from
production and everything, andbeing friends with him and and
(09:16):
being being friends with dirty,being in the hood in Spring
Valley, just chilling, we justtalking, joking, and I'm sitting
like, man, I'm telling you, wecan do this.
Man, I'm telling you, man,Addison's gonna be on, we're
supposed to be on the map.
And we we we on the map, becausewe got a lot of national
championships between swimmingand football.
I know, right?
SPEAKER_01 (09:35):
But you know what's crazy?
Baseball too.
That's like that's that's likewe would we were talking.
Shit, hey, we used to havebasketball until we got hit with
that NCAA shit.
SPEAKER_00 (09:42):
Yeah, no one don't remember that that that
conspiracy.
They they with Jim H Jim Harrowand Cole.
Yeah, and then and then they endup taking a lot of money for the
reason why you're on Harley seeDavid Green and all of them
around and David Pollock and allof them on, is because it was a
Ponzi scheme.
They he they still were gettinggot by uh by them even after he
(10:06):
opened that uh even after he gottheir restaurant downtime.
See, I ain't know that.
They scammed that man they did.
Yeah, they're gonna be a goodone.
SPEAKER_01 (10:15):
But you but you know what's crazy is how much money
is in the community.
Because like I tell people allthe time, I said, like I was
telling somebody about UGA, andI and a lot of people just see
it as a college or university.
I said, bro, they don't put shitback into the community ever.
I said, because when you look atcertain aspects about UGA, they
(10:36):
have their own power plant.
SPEAKER_00 (10:38):
They're they're chicken, they got everything.
SPEAKER_01 (10:41):
Poultry, beef, they have all this these different
commodities that they don't theydon't outsource to anybody.
They just bring, they just,they, they are their own
community.
SPEAKER_00 (10:51):
No, they don't, they don't, they don't, it's so as a
chef, I used to get, they usedto try to sell uh some of the
restaurants.
I've been at a hotel and acouple restaurants I we've been
at.
I've had a couple guys from overthere try to sell me some beef
from over there, right?
Because I was looking, I wasdealing with a lot of different
local farmers just from aroundour area because as a chef,
that's what you're supposed todo.
(11:12):
You're supposed to kind of reachout to your local farmers, reach
out to people who got stuff whoare not, because they don't sell
stuff the way uh purveyors comethrough and sell stuff.
They don't make that much money.
Right.
So I I did a lot of businesswith a lot of people and UGA,
they they don't push that outlike that.
The only thing that I feel likeUJ does for Athens is if you
(11:34):
need a job, you can get a job.
Yeah.
And they about almost messedthat up, I believe, a little
bit.
I think so too.
SPEAKER_01 (11:40):
Because you remember when they were, they were the
society was pushing heavy to golegalize with marijuana.
SPEAKER_00 (11:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (11:47):
Do you know that they were already pushing to go
because they already have theirown hemp farms there?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (11:53):
So Athens, so I don't know if you know this, but
they had a couple shops aroundAthens.
Like not UGA, but just regularpeople who were students of UGA.
Yes.
Classic City, they're shut downnow.
SPEAKER_02 (12:07):
What?
SPEAKER_00 (12:08):
Yeah, because I want to at the time, my dad got some
land out there on uh one likegoing to a 106 danger.
I want we got like 3.75 acres orwhatever.
I want to utilize some for thehemp bill that was coming in.
Now, what people don'tunderstand about Adam George is
that we actually have our ownstrand of weed.
(12:28):
Yeah, yes, right.
So we we actually are theinventors of what you call Kush,
or the strand green crack, whichhas been basically tagged on by
Snoop Dogg and a lot of people.
But back in the 70s or 80s, youcan look this up, Chat GPT, uh
Greencrack, or the former knownas Kush, uh, because that's what
(12:49):
strand green crack is, uh, camefrom growers at UJ.
They made that strand, which hasbeen a strand that has been one
of the most prevalent strands inthe last 40, 50 years.
Right, absolutely.
You know what I'm saying?
And it comes directly from wherewe stay from.
Niggas from Athens don't knowthat type of information.
SPEAKER_01 (13:08):
Because I mean they don't do that research.
They just go, they just run withwhatever names that you got on.
Oh boy, this is that cookie.
Boy, this exotic, this isexotic, this ain't gas.
SPEAKER_00 (13:16):
When when when everybody started doing the weed
game, I was going back and forthfrom Adna to Lano, and uh the
runs came out.
SPEAKER_01 (13:25):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (13:26):
And I would, they would, man, I seen the park go
from this to that to this tothat, trying to try to try me
300 for a zip.
I'm like, how much money I'mgonna make off that?
I ain't gonna make no money offthis.
Even when people were selling$25around, it was hard to get$25
for out of nigga's pocket for agram.
That weed had to be dumb bad.
Right.
So I said shit.
(13:47):
I was a chef.
I was like, man, I'm finna go.
I'm gonna go out with.
I got Femlock though.
I said, I'm gonna go to the weedconference.
So I went to uh San Franciscofirst, went to the uh High Times
Weed Conference, right?
So now I'm digging in strandsfor real.
Like the cookies, like cookies415 basically supplied that era
(14:10):
strands for a long time.
And what people don't know afterso long a strand dies.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's why you don't see a lotof the weeds that like the sour
diesels and uh a lot of thedifferent weed that we love
growing up, you don't see themno more.
But the thing about Runz, Runcewas always a gimmick.
Because Runts was nothing butwedding cake or what you call
(14:30):
birthday cake strand, right?
If you got birthday cake, youhad white runs.
Right, right, right, right.
People didn't know that becausepeople didn't know strands.
They end up tagging it runs, andnow everybody got it.
Cookies had uh animal cookies.
Yeah.
The cookie 415 menu animalcookies, mimosa, gelato, it was
like five strands.
Right.
That's why cookies 415 notdoing.
(14:52):
I'm a uh avid uh marijuanasmoker.
Right.
Avid.
So these people don't understandthat in Athens, we are supposed
to have some kind of toeho onthis game in Georgia as growers.
That's why, like right now, I'mgoing into a process with NACA,
FHA, uh the Georgia uh but notthe University of Georgia, but
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the government agriculturallawn.
SPEAKER_02 (15:18):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (15:18):
Trying to get some land, possibly in this area or
an area I am now.
That way, when because it'scoming, right?
Oh, yeah, it's coming.
But the point is, most AfricanAmericans in our culture, we
don't see what you call like thevariable curve.
You can't see in the future.
We'll wait till something hitand then everybody jump on it.
(15:40):
Most of the stuff that we'redoing right now, even podcasting
or uh video shooting and stufflike that.
We've been doing this for a longtime in our area when people
didn't even have theseresources.
JJ was one of Surgery Fans wereone of the resources and actors
that we had, and when we didn'thave a photographer actor.
So I remember he came to myhood, I was going through some
(16:00):
stuff, and uh we were gonna wewere finna link up to do a uh
documentary.
You know what I'm saying?
Walked around with me andeverything.
We talked, had a good time at mymama hall.
You know what I'm saying?
So I've always wanted to dosomething with you, you know
what I'm saying?
Always respected what you didand the talent that you brought
and the skill that you broughtfor act for for Athens.
Because being Atlanta, they hadthose type of pieces, and we
(16:23):
never had that, and peoplewanted to blow, and they didn't
know that you was a piece thatthey needed to actually blow out
of Athens because we need thatvisual aspect.
SPEAKER_01 (16:30):
So a lot of people don't know I was I was a
director at one point in time,and like shit, they don't know
how many awards I got.
Shit, I even got recruited byUGA to be one of their film uh
um videographers, and like likeI know a lot of people don't
even know this shit.
I've even done like shit forindividuals that are on bang
(16:52):
roads now, yeah.
And like I told somebody,somebody asked me the other day,
Jack, JJ, how long have you beenshooting videos?
I said, shh, I said, I don'treally like calling them videos,
I like shooting movies.
You're a movie, they said, Whydo you like calling them movies?
I said, Because I want to see aplot line, I want to see the
meat and potatoes, I want to seeit it plays out because I was
that kid that was raised up inthe 90s and believing the whole
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store.
SPEAKER_00 (17:15):
Thank you, people, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (17:16):
Like when I saw how it's going down, or when I saw
Big Pimping, when I saw when Isaw 106 in Park, when I saw Rap
City the Basement, yeah, that'swhat I wanted to do.
I seen it, but now these kidsare doing these running guns.
I understand a lot, I like thevisuals, I like the aspects that
they act, they add into it, buta lot of times I break this shit
(17:37):
down.
I'm like, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (17:38):
It ain't no thought process.
No, it's not.
It's zero thought process likeif you jammed and got a viral
clip or jammed and got a viralhit out of it, you just really
just jammed.
SPEAKER_01 (17:49):
Bro, you but but the thing is, um, you just put it up
there, you shoot to you shootone location, two locations,
three locations, and you justsee me up there goddamn just
dancing with the stick.
Yeah.
Just dancing with the pole.
That's all I'm doing.
Instead of, hey, bro, hey,that's what I want to be like.
SPEAKER_02 (18:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (18:08):
But not to knock nobody, but it's it's just it's
just where's the lack ofcreativity.
We were talking about that withmovies last night.
SPEAKER_00 (18:15):
So some people I feel like it's we talk about
this era and such a because theydon't respect stuff.
Even though we had the samethought parts or help y'all get
the thought process that y'allare at now, we cared about our
shoes.
We used to clean them because weain't had nothing.
(18:35):
See, uh, I tell my son this allthe time because I see that the
money comes to him and he justdon't care.
It's like we can get it likethat.
So we respected it if we wouldhave got it.
It don't mean we wouldn't havemessed it up after we got so
much of it, just like me andLowe were talking about like
that.
It's it's hard for a personwho's never been financially or
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been in the fame or been a starto accept that off the river.
You need someone to guide youthrough being like if you go to
college and you had a demo tapeout in Athens and you come back
and every girl that you used towant is sitting there telling
some, hey, because of youralbum, you go you your brain
(19:21):
rate is gonna change a lotdifferently because you used to
be the weird rapping dude thatno one liked.
Yup.
SPEAKER_01 (19:29):
But it but that's it's fucked up how that that
happens.
Because it's it's messed up thateverybody, like, when you put
the shit out, nobody fucks withyou.
SPEAKER_00 (19:39):
It got to hit for everybody to focus.
SPEAKER_01 (19:41):
If it hits everywhere else, and then next
to no, it's like my area slow tocatch on.
It's like, bro, I've been doingthis shit.
Well, I just saw your pocket.
I'm bro, I've been doing thiswith the city.
SPEAKER_00 (19:52):
Have to go.
I was telling Lord this lastnight, and I done told you this
before.
I done told Gene just a lot.
No matter, Atnes is not a placeyou can build up interiorly.
Okay, yes, I can see.
You feel like you can buildthere from the people you know
because we are from a town ofall these haters, all these
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hoes, and all these hustlers.
Yes, yes, yes.
Listen, and it sounds messed upto say that this is the classic
city, man.
You know what I'm saying?
This is this is not Savannah,this ain't Macon, this ain't
Columbus, this ain't Atlanta,this ain't Decatur, this is the
whole northern east side.
SPEAKER_01 (20:29):
But the fuck, but the but the fucked up part about
it is you have individuals thatwill blow up and claim they from
Athens and never set foot inAthens.
Never, never, never, never beenin, never been in the Bethel.
Never been never been in thegarden, never been in the AG.
SPEAKER_00 (20:48):
But they not trying to, but they're not making, they
not doing it's uh me and Lowesaid something about this night,
like what who's the most famousperson out of Athens that's a
star?
Because we don't got a rapperyet.
SPEAKER_01 (21:00):
So you're talking about that.
SPEAKER_00 (21:04):
I told them, I said, you if you want to name my first
thought process, do what I toldLowe on the live last night.
I said, Kenny Rogers will be myfirst thought process.
SPEAKER_01 (21:13):
Nobody realized Kenny Rogers is from Athens,
though.
SPEAKER_00 (21:16):
I I said Kenny Rogers, I said I said, I never
want to throw this shot atpeople, but anytime I want to
just knock you out, RM.
Yup.
Now, if you want to go black,now B-52s, some of the group was
from Athens, some of themweren't, someone from
Watkinsville or whatever.
B-52s, like, but I want to goour culture of black, right?
(21:37):
That's our Athens culture.
But our black culture, we have ahomeboy, and he's uh of the
Rainbow Comedy.
SPEAKER_02 (21:47):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (21:47):
But he's a comedian and an actor, and he's very
famous.
Who is it?
I just cannot, I can't rememberhis name last night.
But hold up, let me get it.
SPEAKER_01 (21:57):
But I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'ma say
something that you that a lot offolks don't don't agree with.
Oh, Nene Leaks.
Yep, Nene Leaks.
Then we got Bubba.
SPEAKER_00 (22:07):
Bubba ain't Bubba ain't from Athens though.
No, but we can give him becausehe already said like right, but
he he repped Athens.
SPEAKER_01 (22:14):
He repped Athens though.
But you'll see but you butyou'll hear, but but Bubba will
come down there and show hisface.
Nene Leaks had Athens look likeit was country.
She went and took them folks togot them Oglethorpe and showed
and made people think that'swhat Athens looked like.
You get what I'm saying?
Yeah, we hunt, yeah, we fish.
SPEAKER_00 (22:36):
Oh, my look, my my big cousin, you know what I'm
saying?
Big Dexter Eccles.
Yep.
He was on um not uh AnthonyBardane, but the other cooking
guy show from Overthought, uhAndrew Zimmerman.
Yep.
Uh so we got some, but I'mtalking about as far as famous,
I'm gonna pull this guy's nameup.
(22:57):
Hold on, I want to make sure.
Cause this guy is, he he got hisown movie, and a lot of people
know him, I just don't know hername.
SPEAKER_01 (23:09):
But it's it's amazing how we know all these
individuals.
But the shit just don't takeoff.
What a lot of people don'trealize that Titus Burgess.
Oh, Titus?
SPEAKER_00 (23:24):
That's one of the most famous people that I can
say is from Actors.
That's black in our community,that's a star, uh, movies,
comedy.
Titus Burgess from Athens,Georgia.
Okay, okay.
I see, I see it.
Yeah, Titus Burgess.
So we gotta understand it'speople for action that are stars
(23:45):
that we don't even know.
Damn.
It's it's people like and I haveto always say this, cause I love
and respect Elite theShowstopper with all my heart.
Bro, he was one of it's a lot ofpeople that had deals out of
Adams.
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (24:03):
Hell Sambo.
SPEAKER_00 (24:04):
Body had a deal at one time.
Uh I'll give you that.
Uh it's a lot of people that hadminor deals.
I'ma say these guys' names.
And they say catch one got anice deal right now.
I don't know.
He the last time I remember whenI I was in the county about
three years ago.
(24:25):
Uh they said it was at thegoddamn uh music awards with the
big catch one Taylor.
I was like, boy, and I I I bewanting to see that you can't be
from your city if it don'tmatter who up there.
I don't care who up there.
I don't care what side of townyou from.
(24:46):
I don't care if I like you,don't like you, know you, don't
know you, I wanna see you there.
I wanna see you win.
I wanna see you win, dog.
I just ain't never been likethat.
I don't care.
I won't I want Tony B to win sobad.
You wanna know why?
Why I feel like Tony B is one ofthe person who actually has the
(25:08):
blueprint.
But like every artist, right?
We all got our own personalflaws.
Yes.
Could be the complaining byeverybody hating.
Yeah.
But I feel like his otherproblem is that when he rap, and
I'ma say this, and I'm nothating, I love you, you know me,
did Joseph Houston third on it.
(25:28):
You be rapping like you rap offpaper.
If you stop doing it, it don'tnever sound like you really know
the song.
No matter what hit you do, youdone had hits, and it sounds
like you like this, it soundslike you rapping out, it don't
sound like you actually know thesong.
It sounds like someone gave youthe song.
Somebody wrote it for you.
You see what I'm saying?
Somebody your own penny pat.
And it and I never feel becauseof Tony Voice, I never feel no
(25:51):
passion out of what he's saying.
I don't know.
Because when he got that, let mesee that ass drop.
That was 80% of what I want outof Tony.
SPEAKER_01 (26:02):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (26:03):
That was the best Tony B version you can ever see.
He was there, that was like, youall you but you I'm talking
about, if I were Dame dancingtoo, I'm like, you almost there.
SPEAKER_01 (26:16):
What's the other song that the Migos took?
Because he was about to blowwith that song, but the Migos
went and did their own versionof it.
SPEAKER_00 (26:29):
I don't, I can't say it.
It can't be Fight Night.
I just I just always rememberFight Night because I know Twan
made to be.
SPEAKER_01 (26:40):
A lot of people don't know.
The Migos used to say they werefrom Athens.
But they from O'Connor.
SPEAKER_00 (26:47):
Look, when Low, when Lowe put this on me last night,
I'm gonna I'm gonna put it likethat.
I'm gonna tell you what I know.
I know this is what I know aboutthe Migos in the Athens
affiliation.
I know that Mike Ball, from whatI think I know, I'm gonna say
think I know, is take off daddy.
(27:10):
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
His mama, they from what I know,I don't even believe they were
born in Addis.
SPEAKER_01 (27:19):
No, they weren't.
SPEAKER_00 (27:20):
They're born on North Side.
SPEAKER_01 (27:24):
That's why they called it North.
SPEAKER_00 (27:26):
And um, but his mama, because his mama, after
Mike Ball had his run a littlebit, or during the run, she
dipped on him.
Yeah.
They they separated and moved upto the A.
That's and then uh I don't knownothing about Quavo.
Yeah.
I've never seen him.
I done seen, I know his folksthat I see in pictures with him
(27:50):
online.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
That that cause I see SheilaWise around a lot.
I see uh mama be on, I forgot uhmama's name.
I forgot that that that lady'sname, but she went around, she
she still real beautiful.
Yeah.
And still try to act, you know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm talking about.
Yes.
But uh she that's her hercousin, her nephew, I believe.
(28:11):
Yeah.
Uh but I've never seen him inAthens directly like that.
I know, and I've never heardthem claim acting personally.
I'm just saying that from when Iwas in Atlanta.
SPEAKER_01 (28:20):
Who was it?
Was it um who just got locked upnot too long ago when he got
done and took him on a highspeed chase?
Well, he was out less than amonth.
SPEAKER_00 (28:27):
Uh for Athens?
SPEAKER_01 (28:29):
Yeah.
Cause he got busted.
The first time he got busted onthe black road.
Oh, uh, James.
Talking about James here?
Mm-mm-mm-mm mm.
Um, what's his fucking name?
Because he took him on the tookhim on a run.
Cause it's Quavo signed him.
SPEAKER_00 (28:45):
Oh, yeah, Petro.
Petro, yeah.
Uh, what's called somethingcalled now?
Petro.
I'm gonna tell you of someonethat I feel made away for
anything that no one don'trespect.
Petrol mama, Mona.
SPEAKER_01 (29:03):
Oh, hold on, hold on.
Mona J is Petrol.
SPEAKER_00 (29:09):
Petrol mama, bruh.
That's how he got that.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (29:14):
I did not know Mona.
SPEAKER_00 (29:15):
Mona done put me on in Atlanta.
Like, I done I'd have been at A.
She put me on with the dude.
I was on the first season ofLove.
I was, well, the first show ofLove for Hip Hop, right?
Right.
Uh, because I was working as akind of like a marketing
director for Jay uh for DaveDeJoule.
Yeah.
Dave the Jewler, she was, Idon't know what her affiliation
(29:36):
with Dave DeJulia.
She was doing someone, but shehad, but Mona plug.
SPEAKER_01 (29:40):
Bro, I I remember working with Mona at Athens
Regional.
SPEAKER_00 (29:47):
I was at tech with Mona.
But but that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01 (29:50):
I did not know that was Petro Mama.
I used to see I used to see Monaover there.
SPEAKER_00 (30:01):
She moved out to uh Cali.
And I hate to say this, thisain't no disrespect.
But I just gotta because ifpeople go look at this online,
Mona, you know people gonna see.
So I'm not saying this to talkabout you.
I just want to make sure youunderstand.
She moved out to Cali, doinggood.
She ended up uh I believe she'sin a relationship with a uh a
dude kind of like porn star.
(30:21):
Yeah.
Everybody was kinda trying tocry on a little bit.
No, you know.
But Mona go get it anywhere shegoes, bro.
I'm talking about from the body.
It don't mean that she's asuperstar famous, but to me, a
woman at the boy, she has put inher work and her due diligence
to be in the industry becauseshe is a part of the music
(30:44):
industry, and people don't knowthat.
You know what I'm saying?
Like in Atlanta, she pushed me,man, she showed me a lot of love
as a Athenian and a homeboy whowent to school for marketing and
athletes and had a record labelup there and did marketing and
put in, you know, someone who'sgonna put you in another room.
Like be like, look, go mess withhim.
He's gonna put you on.
(31:05):
You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01 (31:06):
I mean, but that's what it that's what it all is
about, networking.
Because you gotta you gottafigure out I might not have the
key to that room, but somebodyelse might you gonna help me
down getting into that room.
SPEAKER_00 (31:16):
People don't on don't don't give Mona that type
of respect, but but Mona gotsome keys, bro.
I'm talking about some keysgetting rouge, but you be like,
but I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_01 (31:28):
So this this is my question.
So it's fucked up to me whenI've seen when I hear people
like they pass judgment beforejudgment is even due.
Because they'll say, that's likethat bullshit ass T app.
SPEAKER_00 (31:42):
Yeah, that T app, boy, y'all got hit.
Hey, I'ma let y'all Negroesknow.
That's why I ain't never had oneno car.
I posted on Facebook where y'allwere getting hit.
I'll be y'all caught themessage, but that's why I ain't
never had one no car, man.
My daddy taught me that when Iwas young.
SPEAKER_01 (31:57):
Hey, but don't hey look, we was just talking about
it.
Look, like hey, that's what Iwas just telling him a second
ago.
Why should I rather jump in mylower?
SPEAKER_00 (32:05):
She wanna fuck my car.
There you go, there.
SPEAKER_01 (32:08):
But like I was telling you, shit, I'm ready to
get rid of my charger.
Because if I go anywhere, peoplesay, Oh, is it top black?
Is it front wing shit tennis?
SPEAKER_00 (32:21):
Oh, that's such a city.
No, because we used to thinkit's uh like when I see that,
anytime I seen that, I thoughtthat was my homeboy, the other
nigga who shot uh with for stepone now.
Yeah.
I used to think he him and hisgirl here one right over the uh
Talesy just like that.
You know what I'm saying?
It was like an orange color.
And then the only orange one inAndrew.
So you knew it with Dick.
You know what I'm saying?
You knew it was him.
(32:41):
So that's why I ain't never, Iswear to God, I've never Well,
that's why my shit stays in thegarage every time.
I'm glad that my father taughtme the thing that he taught me
about cars.
I've never been that car guy.
I don't care.
I've never been that person whoreally I've been flashing.
I love jewelry.
Bought some jewelry.
I'ma buy some jewelry, man,because I I feel like it's an
(33:03):
investment.
Right to a certain extent.
I try not to buy BS.
I don't know why y'all buyingstuff off TikTok.
Why?
Why the f why listen, why the Igotta ask that question of
y'all.
Why y'all buying this T Mu jewryand stuff?
I'm not saying it ain't stuff tobe bought off Timu.
SPEAKER_01 (33:23):
You talking about them, you talking about them,
them, them them APs.
But uh yeah, but come on.
SPEAKER_00 (33:28):
If you're gonna buy some jewelry, at least get you
some real metal, man.
Even if you're gonna gomarcanite.
If you got a little marcinite onthere, okay, I got a little
marcanite.
But get you the real metal.
If you don't get the real metal,you're you gonna get killed
about something fake, man.
Yeah.
Like for real.
Like you gonna go out here withall this stuff on, it's shining
(33:50):
for a couple days.
And someone's gonna rob youabout something that ain't even
real.
At least try to have somethingon there.
Real.
I'm not saying, I'm not talkingabout nobody.
It just don't make no sense todie for fake ass shit.
SPEAKER_01 (34:01):
Yeah, no, not no nigga, not no glass.
SPEAKER_00 (34:03):
No saying I'm getting what you and you don't
want to come out there, man.
I ain't coming off my fake dirtchain.
SPEAKER_01 (34:10):
But you give that nigga that fake that dirt.
Give that shit.
Get that nigga that shit, bro.
You get that shit back?
SPEAKER_00 (34:16):
Bro, get what, man.
That Freddy Gill said to me,man, y'all are free picking,
free chicken, because you don'twant to give up that rap, that
thought process of your littlerap image to go down because you
gave your chain up to keep fromdying.
But you better let that rapimage go.
I'm worth more than goddamn 10.
But I'll come back and rap abouthow they took my chain.
(34:37):
I bought another one.
Back in the day, we can'tlisten.
Back in the day when we wereyoung, if someone robbed you, we
didn't think the person who gotrobbed was like.
Hell no.
When we see that person pull upand something new or got some
new shit, like, yeah, theyrobbed me last week, but shit.
I'm back.
SPEAKER_01 (34:53):
I'm back.
I'm nigga out of it.
SPEAKER_00 (34:56):
They fucked them a little bad.
Yeah, but I'm back.
I'm back.
I done seen nigga acting and getrobbed 50 times he still right
now.
Thank you.
And he got plenty of money.
And done had plenty of money,but it just shows how much y'all
hating on that man.
I believe that's that person'sson we talking about.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think so.
Is it is that it starts with a Wor something?
(35:19):
Wingfield or something, man?
Yeah, yes, yes, yes.
Yeah, but see, I'm on that, I'mthat one.
I don't care who called for me.
I and that that's why I saystuff I say, because I say your
name.
You can address me.
My name's Joseph Houston.
You know my mama, you knowBrunner, you know, you know me.
You know I've been they call mecrazy Joe when I was little.
(35:41):
You think it stopped?
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm gonna actually tell thetruth.
I'm not gonna sit here and be ifI'm talking about you or talking
about a subject about you, I'm Ican say names, places, all that
stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (35:53):
But but that's but but but that true aspect of it
is because we don't live in afacade.
Nah, we live in the real world.
Because a lot of people thinkthat, oh, that social media is a
real place.
SPEAKER_00 (36:05):
No, it's not.
SPEAKER_01 (36:05):
They live off of that, like, like, oh, but now
because I was telling somebodyone day, I said, um, like when I
was living overseas, I had abunch of homegirls that was
triples.
I never saw them with theirmakeup off.
So we threw a cookout one day,and they showed up with their
makeup off.
SPEAKER_00 (36:24):
You didn't even know who they was.
But what the fuck?
You thought different peopletrying to come like, who are
you?
SPEAKER_01 (36:28):
Hey, but hell no, you ain't put on this Jack.
This is me.
This is JJ, this is me.
Jeep a creeper.
Big Jeep.
That's that's what the fuck Ithink you look like.
SPEAKER_00 (36:39):
I used to work in a strip club as a chef.
And before I worked there inthis shit, it was vivid.
Club.
Yeah, yeah.
So I've been in and out of thestrip club doing my thing my
whole life.
But I never actually worked init, know how it worked.
You know, people think you knowhow a strip club works until you
actually there.
Yep.
(37:00):
I was inside that motherfucker.
First night about strip clubs, Inever thought about.
You can get robbed.
Hell yeah.
We never got robbed, buteverybody went over strapped.
Everybody.
I'm talking about everybody.
Even the strippers, I know.
Strapped because they could comethrough that door, like they
could.
Could you think about it?
(37:20):
I never thought about it.
That would be the sweetest lickin the world.
Go out there and rob the stripclub.
Everybody hit that.
Let go.
That's crazy.
I never thought about it until Iworked in a strip club.
Secondly, I know everybody beenin love with a stripper, uh,
porn star or somebody.
If you have it, you ain't noguy, right?
(37:42):
I'm just saying.
I'm not saying that you're not aguy.
You are a guy, but you just nota guy like us.
SPEAKER_01 (37:47):
Look, we would hey, I'm gonna go into it.
I'm gonna put it put it outthere like this.
Shit, I I heard niggas that lastnight at work talking about
goddamn um hating on Cardis Baysareolas.
I I didn't see wrong with them.
SPEAKER_00 (37:59):
I seen the pictures of y'all talking about her
areolas look like the ThomasEnglish muffins.
I like Thomas English muffins.
I'm a shit.
But like them talent Englishmuffins.
I'm trying to figure out a DuchyStank so I can get my fantasy
over.
(38:19):
Y'all let me know.
Who gonna let me know?
Because I got the picture on myphone right now.
This is crazy.
Man, that's your man one of theolder cats.
Man, I'll say it, boy.
You a fool, boy.
I don't know how you fuck withthat bag.
Oh boy.
I'm so I'm sorry, but I don'tbut forget the bag.
I'm talking about the bag, man.
(38:41):
But I ain't letting out.
I'm sorry, boy.
Y'all crazy, boy.
You better be trying to well, Idon't I know it probably weird
now.
She done had a baby out ofnothing trying to get a baby.
Uh hold on.
But you do got like three kids,but uh, four how many kids you
got a lot of kids, bro.
At least you stamped it.
SPEAKER_01 (38:59):
But hey, but the but the crazy part about it is he
might have a lot of kids.
He might let her go back out.
But that's like somebody askedme the other day, would what
would you try to spin back?
I said, it depends on the levelof disrespect that you go
through.
Boy, I'm spinning.
But but you get what I'm saying?
It depends on the level ofdisrespect.
(39:20):
We are celebrity.
There ain't no disrespect.
SPEAKER_00 (39:23):
You doing an album right now, baby.
Oh shit.
See, y'all didn't look thatwhile my wife loves me.
You see how supportive I amright now?
Baby, go on shake that.
You doing an admiral.
Yeah, it's all right.
By the book.
Because you think about the bagon the back end.
I'm not finna mess your money.
I'm a business man.
(39:44):
I'm not finna mess your moneyup.
So let's talk about that.
Most dudes can be pimps.
SPEAKER_01 (39:50):
Most dudes ain't dudes.
But because any motherfucker Ifuck with certifiably, any
motherfucker I fuck withcertifiably, if I fuck with you,
I wanna see you win.
SPEAKER_00 (40:02):
Yeah, like that's why I say like if if you if your
occupation is selling coochie,and I'm a market manager, right?
And I know business and I knowpeople who buy coochie.
Hey, go on over there.
Man, look, this nigga papers apretty good motherfucker.
(40:22):
Don't go to him, he ain't gonnatry to give them on the 40.
SPEAKER_01 (40:25):
Hey, because like like bro, I used to tell folks,
like when I went to um like whenI used to go to strip clubs, I
used to have regulars.
They used to come over there andgot them no, if I they came over
there, I'll buy him a drink,we'll sit down in politics,
whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
And I see a motherfucker lookingat her, I say, hey, I'll put a
nap.
I put a napkin over her drink.
I said, That dude over therelooking at you, go get your
money.
Get your money.
(40:46):
She's talking about somethingfor real.
I said, go get your money.
I'm hey, I'm gonna be hereafter.
SPEAKER_00 (40:50):
If in in the respect that I give, if you care about
my nah, I ain't gonna give youno respect for that.
Because my family from SanFrancisco, I come from a line of
assistant, assistant, assistantpimps.
You feel what I'm saying?
And I'm I respect this shit.
Look, if you sit here feelingabout my feelings, talking
(41:13):
about, I are you okay with megoing over there?
I'm mad at you for asking me, amI okay if you go over there?
I'm okay.
I'm not okay if you don't goover there.
Now I'm gonna be okay.
SPEAKER_01 (41:25):
I'm gonna be pissed off if you don't come back with
no money.
SPEAKER_00 (41:28):
I'm pissed off.
I feel pissed on if you comeback with no money.
I'm mad because you didn't evenwant to go over there to see
what the if the money it's aboutsome money.
Right, right, right.
If you just want to- and we in astrip club and this is a money
situation.
Because I mean Because I mightbe helping you get more money by
you sitting over there talkingto me and the fit folk and folk
(41:48):
hating on me.
Sometimes I used to do that instrip clubs.
I had friends that were girls atstrip clubs, and we'd sit there
and shit politics.
When it's a slow night, she'ssitting there politics with me
just to make sure it looked likeI'm like her boyfriend and ain't
gonna get mad and want to spendmoney.
Yep.
It's a whole game.
SPEAKER_01 (42:06):
Yep.
Man, shit.
Let me tell you something.
Cause uh a lot of y'all don'trealize this shit.
Cause I do that shit for myhomegirls too.
Like they go on that stage anddance and shake their ass.
And I tell them, hey, when youget up, this motherfucker, these
niggas watching.
So you gotta go up there andmotherfucker and goddamn put on
a motherfucking show.
Therefore, so we can goddamnmake this bag.
(42:29):
You'll see me throw$20 out.
This motherfucker goddamn toldme, man, I'm gonna outdo this
nigga.
Yep.
And he gonna throw 40.
Another motherfucker might throw60.
SPEAKER_00 (42:39):
Look, dudes, I try to tell my son all the time, you
need female friends that youdon't try to have sex with.
Like real female friends.
SPEAKER_01 (42:49):
First of all, a lot of niggas don't understand that.
And a lot of females don'tunderstand that because they
they they think that everyfemale that we cool with, we
gotta try to fuck.
SPEAKER_00 (42:59):
You need them, bro.
They got so when I got out ofprison, bro, I knew it was
females that it was so females Ijust kind of smashed.
SPEAKER_01 (43:11):
I don't feel like it was they couldn't, that you
couldn't smash.
I just felt like we have adifferent bond.
SPEAKER_00 (43:16):
We were too good of a friend.
It don't mean that ourfriendship was so close and then
feel like maybe if we take thisto a different level, it would
be good.
But it was like, I would ratherhave you as a friend than to
lose you as a in a relationship.
Relationship.
SPEAKER_01 (43:34):
Because the way I look at folks, certain
individuals, like I value moreis that you're a friend.
It means so much more to me tohave you as a friend than on
that next level.
Because you know what I'msaying?
Because it's like I know I gotyour back the same way you got
mine.
SPEAKER_00 (43:50):
I want to know why women are better friends than
men than men are to men.
Talk to me.
No matter how cool you are witha dude, no matter if y'all grew
up together, and I hate to saythis, this is just my thought
process.
I'm not saying I don't have afriend that we thoroughly love
each other.
I thoroughly love a lot of myfriends, and I know they love
(44:12):
me.
But a dude always has jealousy.
Yeah.
So that means if both of usstart off with an ounce, right?
I come back next week.
You still got the same stuff.
Like you doing your thing, but Icome back next week in the
bench.
Lit.
Like, bro, what up?
(44:34):
Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Hey, yeah.
Yeah, you finna gonna get twoon?
Hey, I'll be on, let me go droptwo.
I'm gonna come back right backbefore which I'm gonna bring
some drinks too.
You sinna like What the fuck?
No man, I don't care what niggayou is.
Now, now if that's a girl, I'mgonna tell you the game between
(44:55):
girls being your friend.
Women want to see you doinggood.
Women want you to promote you.
They want you to be in a goodposition.
Cause they're motherly.
Yeah, yeah.
We are men.
Yeah.
After so long, it don't counterhow much you up.
If I ain't up with you, nigga,fuck you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
(45:16):
You get what I'm saying?
That's how that shit goes.
Unless you just say an undying,like y'all just done bend up
from the bottom.
Yeah.
Y'all done had a struggle withyou.
You gotta be there, you donebeen at the bottom with the
nigga, you gotta have somemoney.
You done been in the bottom withthe nigga, you gotta have some
money.
Okay, if not, a nigga gonna feelsome kind of way about you if
you go up on him.
If you working at a job rightnow, both of y'all start
(45:38):
together,$20 hour.
Y'all happy about$20.
Then, but his credit fucked up,your credit good, you go pull up
in the challenger, and he stillriding the Toyota.
Boy, he hot.
He hot, he's 38.
You get what I'm saying?
He wanna know how you got it.
Yup.
Bro, but how you got down there?
He ain't he ain't saying thatlike, bro, hey man, you know,
(45:58):
um, you that credit prep placeyou were telling me about, bro,
but put me on games, I got toget me something new, bro, about
next year, bro.
I've been saving up.
Hell yeah, my nigga, da da da.
Not not just in a nigga, man,fuck that nigga, bro, man.
Man, that's why man, that niggacheat on that girl, bro.
Oh, they start throwing outdime.
Hey, look, look, like, man, shh,man.
(46:20):
No nigga pedal talking.
That one thing about nigga, Ilook, thug.
I done seen your kind before.
Listen, I done seen people actlike they ain't told nothing.
It's okay, brother.
This is what I want to tell you,though.
Look, man.
You done had your run.
(46:41):
Sometimes when you lose thegame, you can get booed off or
you can get walk off.
You got a choice right now.
Don't get booed off, dog.
You gotta be, well, that's kindathat's kinda, you get booed
right now.
But you can make it worse.
(47:01):
Now, you free, right?
You don't got to be donethrowing on everything you said
to no folk when you walking outthat courtroom.
Look, I'm gonna try to be, uh,I'm gonna do some free concerts,
and we're gonna you need to bedoing that.
Be a civilian.
Look, get what?
Go do some gossip music likeyeah, doing Y ain't doing some
(47:24):
gossip music, he listening.
Go do a gossip song like Yaydoing, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (47:27):
He didn't yet get with the uh the attorney.
SPEAKER_00 (47:32):
Oh nah nah, the person who with the turn is uh
Shannon.
He chillin'.
You see, he ain't here.
Shannon chillin', go make you agospel song, bro.
It'll be alright.
Cause you do not bank let youget away.
Real street niggas, nah.
(47:53):
We seen as in that interview, assoon as you start doing like
this, and we know you ain't ondrug no more.
Cause I know you when you usedto be on drugs and you actually
used to be like that.
So we know you ain't on drug.
And when you start acting likethat and start playing, when you
were talking about where youfrom, you were, yeah, man, you
know I'm from goddamn JoanBurrow's out dah duh.
Everything was all good.
Soon they started talking aboutthat situation, you shaking like
(48:15):
a two-dollar hole in Sundayserver.
Got uncomfortable like amotherfucker.
I feel you.
Got the tweaking, got thetweaking.
Yeah, what?
Where I come from, and off fromthe country, off from Adam
George.
Look here.
They tell you off the rip.
If you go in there, you don'tknow nothing, bruh.
I was 15, 14 years old.
(48:37):
You can't sit here and pull thaton me, bruh.
I was 14, 15 years old.
I had people telling on me.
And I'm sitting there like this,yeah.
My lawyer showing me thepaperwork.
Rest in peace, Todd Woo.
He's showing me the paperwork.
Man, this man telling on you,this man tending on you.
Lil Joe, they gonna give you ayear.
(48:58):
Take the five years, do one, godo some RYDC time, get out and
do and get what?
You you might not even get RYDCtime.
We might go and get you to themilitary, gonna get you up out
of here.
You gotta get you doing good athis show.
You gotta get IQ, you donebusted basic skill test, just go
on.
Get what I wanna be.
I thought I was Tupac.
I want to be MT.
(49:19):
I want to be titty head.
I wanna be uh Big Dale fromSpring Valley.
I want to be fat G.
I wanna be Shane.
I wanna, I wanna I wanna be, Iwanna go jail.
I want to go jail.
That's what I'm saying.
See me down the road.
I'm really like that.
I know I am.
I didn't know I was like that,it just don't happen.
SPEAKER_01 (49:35):
I was, but it could have been a situation where I
really wasn't.
Because hey, we done seen a lotof niggas got them going go
behind that wall, go on themstay and go on them staycations
and they ain't built for thatshit.
They be up there talking aboutsome tap out.
I'm uh I'm I'm reformed.
SPEAKER_00 (49:49):
Well, I got a I got a home where and this I don't
when I get in these situations,I don't say no name.
But it's someone whodisappointed me when I was
locked up really bad, and I wasthere to save him.
I could have saved him.
All he had to do was want to besaved.
And he didn't do it, and heain't even really about
homework.
He ain't we ain't from the samehood, and I tried to save him.
Look, just think about it, youknow that shit don't go.
(50:12):
Nigga, you in and I I don't lookat better hole at the West Side.
I just want to make sure y'allunderstand that.
That's me, that's that's that'scentral ass.
That's central ass, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
So the dude I'm talking about,he's from the belt.
Oh, lived in the belt a lot.
I ain't gonna say you're from,but it's ready for party.
Oh god.
Really, we out of the niggaparty, I believe.
(50:33):
But but I was there to save him,and he wouldn't let me.
He basically was if a dude.
SPEAKER_01 (50:42):
Maybe call them crash dummies.
SPEAKER_00 (50:44):
Nah, I'm I'm gonna put like this up.
If you're in a situation, I'm inanother situation with a
homeboy, and I say a name,because they're my partner.
There, he like, bro, I don'tknow what I'm gonna do with this
shit.
You know what I'm saying?
We was in boot camp.
He like, bro, I don't know.
I was like, bro, I got you.
I don't give a fuck, bro.
Bro, I'm I'm you know what I'msaying?
You know, I didn't know I wouldthen when I was telling Lola,
(51:04):
like, that when I kind of justfirst started feeling like I
knew I was that.
You know, I was already thenerd, the cool, the weird,
whatever.
You know what I'm saying?
My dad smoked dope, all that,goddamn.
You know what I'm saying?
So I was already chasing thedream of wanting to be a
gangster or wanting to bewhoever I thought I was.
Little Joe Springfield, JoeCool, Crazy Joe, whoever I
thought I was.
But I ain't know who I was untilI seen someone want to remember
(51:28):
my own words.
Yeah.
Then I really knew how much Icared for actors and how
gangster I was for real and whoI was.
Because I realized from being onstreets in the east side, west
side, and not getting along withyou, that I could get over this
because ain't no one else gonnafuck with us and make us look
back.
Cause when I seen how um townsand cities get portrayed if your
(51:50):
people don't look good, I ain'twant us to look like that in
Chang'e.
Right, absolutely.
And I'd have been in situationswhere I done went to Chang, they
be looking at you like, oh, yourhomeboy, some BS.
Right.
And you looking like I can'tbelieve that.
SPEAKER_01 (52:07):
On that note, I gotta cut it short.
Right.
Cause I gotta get to my son'sdentist appointment.
SPEAKER_00 (52:13):
Dennis appointment.
SPEAKER_01 (52:14):
Hey, that's what it talks about.
Hey, real shit, you gotta dodaddy shit straight up.
But thank you for making gettingus here on four.
Sister Puss only meets therecipe.
Man, all the menu.
Hey, we out.
Yo with four steppers only.
Mr.
Recipe.
SPEAKER_00 (00:07):
Hey man, we cooking up, man.
The cookup is real, man.
Off the menu, man.
We stepping on y'all, man.
What's happening?
What's happening?
What's happening?
Hey, y'all already know who Iam.
Hey, man.
Hey, guess what, man?
Jeff.
Time three, man.
Cooking up.
What's happening?
SPEAKER_01 (00:23):
But hey, man, shit.
Hey, this is a long time coming,Chef.
Man, hey.
I don't think thesemotherfuckers are ready for this
shit at all.
Because I'm gonna go ahead andtell you, man, shit.
We've been talking about a lotof shit before the cameras even
start rolling.
So we had to goddamn get it intothis shit.
But shit, hey, Chef, like wewere talking about.
Why, hey, everybody we got themat me talking about something
like hey Jack, hey Jack, I wannahear this.
(00:44):
I wanna hear that.
I wanna hear this.
I wanna hear that.
But the most common thing thatpeople want to talk about, they
want to hear is why should I notfuck my co-workers?
SPEAKER_00 (00:54):
Man, that's a crazy subject, especially when y'all
got no uh them at-work husbandsand all that, no at-work wives
and stuff.
Well, what you talking about?
But I seen I'm I'm from I'm fromthe class city, man, and you
know, some people call itcountry, some people call it say
we slow or whatever, but I heywhat man, for for our area, man,
we've been uh light speed for along time.
(01:17):
You feel what I'm saying?
And uh in our area, bro, we wecountry, bro.
We'll we're hey, they don't carenothing about that show girl.
Hell no.
SPEAKER_01 (01:26):
Shit, hey, I'll let her kiss you before you get out
of the car with her.
SPEAKER_00 (01:29):
But guess what?
SPEAKER_01 (01:30):
She's gonna bring me a plate in the work, goddamn it.
I'll tell you that.
SPEAKER_00 (01:33):
And they be and the bad part, they they looking at
you while they do it, they'relike, oh yeah, man.
He he kissed her, but they mightthat my bitch.
That my bitch.
Like, dang, y'all rough.
SPEAKER_01 (01:43):
So somebody brought some shit to me at work the
other night, right?
Talking about some Jack.
I said, What's up?
Um, have you seen such and such?
I said, No, I ain't seen them.
Yeah, because uh they and thethese two individuals ended up
getting a place together.
She left her husband, left herkid, and just got doing moved,
changed jobs and everything.
(02:04):
Moved, they get when they got aplace, and at the same time, he
was still fucking my homegirl.
SPEAKER_00 (02:12):
Boy, I said that is diabolical.
One thing about it, and I hateto say this, us as men, we are
terrible, right?
But we don't get past first baseunless the woman lets us get
there.
So I don't, I'm not sittingthere trying to blame it on the
women, but y'all got a big toehole of the bulk ownership of
(02:39):
this situation.
Because the cool thing about itis, if you don't, my mama used
to tell me this, my grandma usedto tell me when I was young, if
she don't open her legs, youcan't nothing happen.
SPEAKER_01 (02:49):
You were you damn right.
SPEAKER_00 (02:51):
So what if whatever I said or whatever, how have I
looked or whatever I had madeyou open your legs into
yourself, then I'm gonna be mad.
It's a free pick.
SPEAKER_01 (03:04):
The way I look at it is a free pick.
SPEAKER_00 (03:06):
Free game.
SPEAKER_01 (03:07):
Because I mean, I ain't gonna hold you shit.
That shit happened to me.
SPEAKER_00 (03:10):
Okay.
It can happen to everybody.
I got it.
I can't say that.
I uh in my my younger days, Ihaven't did the same depending
on the situation.
SPEAKER_01 (03:20):
Because I mean, like we tell, like we like me and you
were talking, like, like I'mlike if I'm beefing with you,
I'm not gonna goddamn hit yourpockets.
I'm not gonna call the police onwhat you're doing, telling you
what you're doing.
SPEAKER_00 (03:31):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01 (03:31):
Bro, I'm gonna go for your heart.
SPEAKER_00 (03:33):
I'm gonna go for your heart.
And and and I'm from an area,I'm from, I'm from ATH.
And like I was telling mypartner low last night, I'm from
where all these haters, allthese hoes, and all these
hustlers at, right?
So, so uh, I'm gonna be realwith you.
We don't care nothing about you,Monica.
We getting money.
Yeah.
Like we getting money, and if weain't getting money, we
(03:54):
straight.
Yeah.
You feel what I'm saying?
So at the end of the day, wewanna uh feel you hurt
personally.
Hey, uh, you know, we want wewant to make sure that when we
sit, we reason about the laugh,like man, man, you don't even
know where it got that.
Well, you ain't know what it is.
But you don't know what y'allhave did.
I got a video that y'all gotdown getting the paint and a
paste painting.
(04:15):
Hey boy, go check this out, boy.
She got that.
Hey, but ain't that such andsuch an old lady?
Oh yeah.
And all they want to know, theydon't even want you to know
directly.
They just want someone orsomeone to know and do like
everybody looking at you whenyou come into the plant looking
at you like yourself.
Looking like crazy.
But get what?
The bad part about acting,everybody probably not even
(04:39):
looking crazy.
Because so fat.
Shoot.
They know you got uh at-workwife.
Yup.
SPEAKER_01 (04:46):
Yup.
Because I mean, let's let's likewe um I've talked about this on
another episode.
Don't you bring that Tupperwarehome that she done brought you
to work?
When she brought you that meal.
Yup.
You don't you don't bring thatTupperware home.
SPEAKER_00 (04:58):
That's crazy.
SPEAKER_01 (05:00):
Because I mean, shoot, it's like because a lot
of these motherfuckers that gotat-work wives and at work at
work husbands, I'm just glad gota significant other at home.
SPEAKER_00 (05:08):
Look, I'm just glad I'm a chef.
I ain't never need nobody tocook for me at all.
I ain't never had thatsituation.
But I I'll take some shit forlater.
SPEAKER_01 (05:16):
I know what you talking about, something that I
can throw away.
SPEAKER_00 (05:19):
I'll take some chicken nuggets.
SPEAKER_01 (05:20):
I know that right.
Hey, you want hey, look, look,you fuck around, leave that
goddamn tupperware with me ifyou want to.
That bitch gonna end up withinthe trash.
That shit ain't going nowhereclose to my residence, my car,
or nowhere else.
SPEAKER_00 (05:31):
And I know they're crazy, but I got to say this.
SPEAKER_01 (05:33):
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_00 (05:36):
And this episode of For Steppers and the Recipe Pile
off the menu is brought to youby Snapper.
I just be trying to get himmoney, man.
SPEAKER_01 (05:46):
Hey, hey, hey man, let me tell you something, man.
Shit, but but that's all it'sabout though.
SPEAKER_00 (05:49):
Yeah, we playing the Monopoly game.
We might we're gonna getsomething.
SPEAKER_01 (05:52):
I mean, this chest never checkers.
I mean, shit, that's like that'slike right now, we're trying to
get a god-done sponsorship rightnow for screwball.
SPEAKER_00 (05:59):
Let's, let's, and that's that's the point.
You know what I'm saying?
Let's how we gonna make, and Ireally love and embrace a lot of
different podcasters.
So you can see how we can make,because I see what they're
doing, I see what Dame Dash, Isee what Cameron doing, I see
what May's doing, I see what UpDell Podcast's doing.
(06:20):
I'm watching y'all, and Irespect the game that you giving
a young podcaster like us.
So we start learning how tocross you live you live this
money and try to get thesesponsorships and turn up our
podcast, invest to ourselves tomake sure that we get the way
y'all we want, we want to get nofit.
I hear y'all talking no 15Ks amonth.
Hey, Tarren Gangster Williamover that talking about he make
(06:41):
more money than I make workingin a month.
Bro, no.
And I and I ain't hating becauseI done known about Terren Gates
Williams since I was a kid whenno one knew about Terren Gates
Williams.
But see this.
But we got stories that we couldtell about Athens uh and around
our surrounding counters for ahundred thousand people that's
(07:03):
there, we should be getting20,000 views.
Of course.
SPEAKER_01 (07:06):
But it's but it's about a popularity contest with
a lot of these motherfuckers.
Correct.
Or or like like the because thethe one thing that pisses me off
the most, y'all niggas to gofuck with a TF.
Y'all niggas to go fuck withcelebrities.
Y'all go for niggas to go fuckwith this, y'all niggas go fuck
with that, and not fuck withyour exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (07:22):
You only show your friend music.
Oh god.
And I said I show T1 music, Isaid, I shell uh nerd music, and
y'all will support everybody.
Y'all will tell uh uh youngConnor happy birthday for you.
Tell your best friend you grewup with for school, who give you
$20 anytime you need.
(07:42):
Happy birthday.
SPEAKER_01 (07:44):
Big facts, big facts.
Because like like I tell peopleall the time, like anybody I
fuck with on a personable level,I share your shit.
I'll put your shit on the pod.
I'll goddamn get you get yousitting over here with me.
Yeah, I said, but anybody thatsit over here with me, I fuck
with on a personable level.
It ain't just oh, they justshowing up to the pod because
(08:06):
they need a platform to speakon.
Yeah, they might need thatplatform, but I fuck with them
when the cameras are rolling orwhen the cameras are off.
SPEAKER_00 (08:13):
We were we were talking podcast shit before we
even start rolling.
We should have just recordedthat coming in dope.
SPEAKER_01 (08:20):
Bro, we were talking podcast shit on live on live
last night.
SPEAKER_00 (08:24):
We we was up at six o'clock in the morning to drop
podcast.
They done they done they done uhwhat Jimmy Kimball, they the CK.
We make sure I can't talk nomore because I've been talking,
I've been there with my homie,old school OG for acting, man.
Low from the infamous group LowDown and Dirty, notorious South.
One of my uh rap idols from myhometown.
(08:45):
Well, the pioneer.
So the pioneer of this thing.
Ain't nothing dirty, man.
SPEAKER_01 (08:49):
Ain't nothing like a peacancy.
SPEAKER_00 (08:51):
Ain't nothing but like a pequan seed.
SPEAKER_01 (08:53):
Oh, hey, oh, you tell them chocolate.
SPEAKER_00 (08:55):
Chocolate, man.
So in between no hedge, man.
What are you talking about?
So, like, just to be able totalk with uh this wonderful uh
student of the game and uhmentor of the game uh from
production and everything, andbeing friends with him and and
(09:16):
being being friends with dirty,being in the hood in Spring
Valley, just chilling, we justtalking, joking, and I'm sitting
like, man, I'm telling you, wecan do this.
Man, I'm telling you, man,Addison's gonna be on, we're
supposed to be on the map.
And we we we on the map, becausewe got a lot of national
championships between swimmingand football.
I know, right?
SPEAKER_01 (09:35):
But you know what's crazy?
Baseball too.
That's like that's that's likewe would we were talking.
Shit, hey, we used to havebasketball until we got hit with
that NCAA shit.
SPEAKER_00 (09:42):
Yeah, no one don't remember that that that
conspiracy.
They they with Jim H Jim Harrowand Cole.
Yeah, and then and then they endup taking a lot of money for the
reason why you're on Harley seeDavid Green and all of them
around and David Pollock and allof them on, is because it was a
Ponzi scheme.
They he they still were gettinggot by uh by them even after he
(10:06):
opened that uh even after he gottheir restaurant downtime.
See, I ain't know that.
They scammed that man they did.
Yeah, they're gonna be a goodone.
SPEAKER_01 (10:15):
But you but you know what's crazy is how much money
is in the community.
Because like I tell people allthe time, I said, like I was
telling somebody about UGA, andI and a lot of people just see
it as a college or university.
I said, bro, they don't put shitback into the community ever.
I said, because when you look atcertain aspects about UGA, they
(10:36):
have their own power plant.
SPEAKER_00 (10:38):
They're they're chicken, they got everything.
SPEAKER_01 (10:41):
Poultry, beef, they have all this these different
commodities that they don't theydon't outsource to anybody.
They just bring, they just,they, they are their own
community.
SPEAKER_00 (10:51):
No, they don't, they don't, they don't, it's so as a
chef, I used to get, they usedto try to sell uh some of the
restaurants.
I've been at a hotel and acouple restaurants I we've been
at.
I've had a couple guys from overthere try to sell me some beef
from over there, right?
Because I was looking, I wasdealing with a lot of different
local farmers just from aroundour area because as a chef,
that's what you're supposed todo.
(11:12):
You're supposed to kind of reachout to your local farmers, reach
out to people who got stuff whoare not, because they don't sell
stuff the way uh purveyors comethrough and sell stuff.
They don't make that much money.
Right.
So I I did a lot of businesswith a lot of people and UGA,
they they don't push that outlike that.
The only thing that I feel likeUJ does for Athens is if you
(11:34):
need a job, you can get a job.
Yeah.
And they about almost messedthat up, I believe, a little
bit.
I think so too.
SPEAKER_01 (11:40):
Because you remember when they were, they were the
society was pushing heavy to golegalize with marijuana.
SPEAKER_00 (11:46):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (11:47):
Do you know that they were already pushing to go
because they already have theirown hemp farms there?
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (11:53):
So Athens, so I don't know if you know this, but
they had a couple shops aroundAthens.
Like not UGA, but just regularpeople who were students of UGA.
Yes.
Classic City, they're shut downnow.
SPEAKER_02 (12:07):
What?
SPEAKER_00 (12:08):
Yeah, because I want to at the time, my dad got some
land out there on uh one likegoing to a 106 danger.
I want we got like 3.75 acres orwhatever.
I want to utilize some for thehemp bill that was coming in.
Now, what people don'tunderstand about Adam George is
that we actually have our ownstrand of weed.
(12:28):
Yeah, yes, right.
So we we actually are theinventors of what you call Kush,
or the strand green crack, whichhas been basically tagged on by
Snoop Dogg and a lot of people.
But back in the 70s or 80s, youcan look this up, Chat GPT, uh
Greencrack, or the former knownas Kush, uh, because that's what
(12:49):
strand green crack is, uh, camefrom growers at UJ.
They made that strand, which hasbeen a strand that has been one
of the most prevalent strands inthe last 40, 50 years.
Right, absolutely.
You know what I'm saying?
And it comes directly from wherewe stay from.
Niggas from Athens don't knowthat type of information.
SPEAKER_01 (13:08):
Because I mean they don't do that research.
They just go, they just run withwhatever names that you got on.
Oh boy, this is that cookie.
Boy, this exotic, this isexotic, this ain't gas.
SPEAKER_00 (13:16):
When when when everybody started doing the weed
game, I was going back and forthfrom Adna to Lano, and uh the
runs came out.
SPEAKER_01 (13:25):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (13:26):
And I would, they would, man, I seen the park go
from this to that to this tothat, trying to try to try me
300 for a zip.
I'm like, how much money I'mgonna make off that?
I ain't gonna make no money offthis.
Even when people were selling$25around, it was hard to get$25
for out of nigga's pocket for agram.
That weed had to be dumb bad.
Right.
So I said shit.
(13:47):
I was a chef.
I was like, man, I'm finna go.
I'm gonna go out with.
I got Femlock though.
I said, I'm gonna go to the weedconference.
So I went to uh San Franciscofirst, went to the uh High Times
Weed Conference, right?
So now I'm digging in strandsfor real.
Like the cookies, like cookies415 basically supplied that era
(14:10):
strands for a long time.
And what people don't know afterso long a strand dies.
Yeah, absolutely.
That's why you don't see a lotof the weeds that like the sour
diesels and uh a lot of thedifferent weed that we love
growing up, you don't see themno more.
But the thing about Runz, Runcewas always a gimmick.
Because Runts was nothing butwedding cake or what you call
(14:30):
birthday cake strand, right?
If you got birthday cake, youhad white runs.
Right, right, right, right.
People didn't know that becausepeople didn't know strands.
They end up tagging it runs, andnow everybody got it.
Cookies had uh animal cookies.
Yeah.
The cookie 415 menu animalcookies, mimosa, gelato, it was
like five strands.
Right.
That's why cookies 415 notdoing.
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I'm a uh avid uh marijuanasmoker.
Right.
Avid.
So these people don't understandthat in Athens, we are supposed
to have some kind of toeho onthis game in Georgia as growers.
That's why, like right now, I'mgoing into a process with NACA,
FHA, uh the Georgia uh but notthe University of Georgia, but
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the government agriculturallawn.
SPEAKER_02 (15:18):
Yes.
SPEAKER_00 (15:18):
Trying to get some land, possibly in this area or
an area I am now.
That way, when because it'scoming, right?
Oh, yeah, it's coming.
But the point is, most AfricanAmericans in our culture, we
don't see what you call like thevariable curve.
You can't see in the future.
We'll wait till something hitand then everybody jump on it.
(15:40):
Most of the stuff that we'redoing right now, even podcasting
or uh video shooting and stufflike that.
We've been doing this for a longtime in our area when people
didn't even have theseresources.
JJ was one of Surgery Fans wereone of the resources and actors
that we had, and when we didn'thave a photographer actor.
So I remember he came to myhood, I was going through some
(16:00):
stuff, and uh we were gonna wewere finna link up to do a uh
documentary.
You know what I'm saying?
Walked around with me andeverything.
We talked, had a good time at mymama hall.
You know what I'm saying?
So I've always wanted to dosomething with you, you know
what I'm saying?
Always respected what you didand the talent that you brought
and the skill that you broughtfor act for for Athens.
Because being Atlanta, they hadthose type of pieces, and we
(16:23):
never had that, and peoplewanted to blow, and they didn't
know that you was a piece thatthey needed to actually blow out
of Athens because we need thatvisual aspect.
SPEAKER_01 (16:30):
So a lot of people don't know I was I was a
director at one point in time,and like shit, they don't know
how many awards I got.
Shit, I even got recruited byUGA to be one of their film uh
um videographers, and like likeI know a lot of people don't
even know this shit.
I've even done like shit forindividuals that are on bang
(16:52):
roads now, yeah.
And like I told somebody,somebody asked me the other day,
Jack, JJ, how long have you beenshooting videos?
I said, shh, I said, I don'treally like calling them videos,
I like shooting movies.
You're a movie, they said, Whydo you like calling them movies?
I said, Because I want to see aplot line, I want to see the
meat and potatoes, I want to seeit it plays out because I was
that kid that was raised up inthe 90s and believing the whole
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store.
SPEAKER_00 (17:15):
Thank you, people, yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (17:16):
Like when I saw how it's going down, or when I saw
Big Pimping, when I saw when Isaw 106 in Park, when I saw Rap
City the Basement, yeah, that'swhat I wanted to do.
I seen it, but now these kidsare doing these running guns.
I understand a lot, I like thevisuals, I like the aspects that
they act, they add into it, buta lot of times I break this shit
(17:37):
down.
I'm like, okay.
SPEAKER_00 (17:38):
It ain't no thought process.
No, it's not.
It's zero thought process likeif you jammed and got a viral
clip or jammed and got a viralhit out of it, you just really
just jammed.
SPEAKER_01 (17:49):
Bro, you but but the thing is, um, you just put it up
there, you shoot to you shootone location, two locations,
three locations, and you justsee me up there goddamn just
dancing with the stick.
Yeah.
Just dancing with the pole.
That's all I'm doing.
Instead of, hey, bro, hey,that's what I want to be like.
SPEAKER_02 (18:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (18:08):
But not to knock nobody, but it's it's just it's
just where's the lack ofcreativity.
We were talking about that withmovies last night.
SPEAKER_00 (18:15):
So some people I feel like it's we talk about
this era and such a because theydon't respect stuff.
Even though we had the samethought parts or help y'all get
the thought process that y'allare at now, we cared about our
shoes.
We used to clean them because weain't had nothing.
(18:35):
See, uh, I tell my son this allthe time because I see that the
money comes to him and he justdon't care.
It's like we can get it likethat.
So we respected it if we wouldhave got it.
It don't mean we wouldn't havemessed it up after we got so
much of it, just like me andLowe were talking about like
that.
It's it's hard for a personwho's never been financially or
(18:57):
been in the fame or been a starto accept that off the river.
You need someone to guide youthrough being like if you go to
college and you had a demo tapeout in Athens and you come back
and every girl that you used towant is sitting there telling
some, hey, because of youralbum, you go you your brain
(19:21):
rate is gonna change a lotdifferently because you used to
be the weird rapping dude thatno one liked.
Yup.
SPEAKER_01 (19:29):
But it but that's it's fucked up how that that
happens.
Because it's it's messed up thateverybody, like, when you put
the shit out, nobody fucks withyou.
SPEAKER_00 (19:39):
It got to hit for everybody to focus.
SPEAKER_01 (19:41):
If it hits everywhere else, and then next
to no, it's like my area slow tocatch on.
It's like, bro, I've been doingthis shit.
Well, I just saw your pocket.
I'm bro, I've been doing thiswith the city.
SPEAKER_00 (19:52):
Have to go.
I was telling Lord this lastnight, and I done told you this
before.
I done told Gene just a lot.
No matter, Atnes is not a placeyou can build up interiorly.
Okay, yes, I can see.
You feel like you can buildthere from the people you know
because we are from a town ofall these haters, all these
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hoes, and all these hustlers.
Yes, yes, yes.
Listen, and it sounds messed upto say that this is the classic
city, man.
You know what I'm saying?
This is this is not Savannah,this ain't Macon, this ain't
Columbus, this ain't Atlanta,this ain't Decatur, this is the
whole northern east side.
SPEAKER_01 (20:29):
But the fuck, but the but the fucked up part about
it is you have individuals thatwill blow up and claim they from
Athens and never set foot inAthens.
Never, never, never, never beenin, never been in the Bethel.
Never been never been in thegarden, never been in the AG.
SPEAKER_00 (20:48):
But they not trying to, but they're not making, they
not doing it's uh me and Lowesaid something about this night,
like what who's the most famousperson out of Athens that's a
star?
Because we don't got a rapperyet.
SPEAKER_01 (21:00):
So you're talking about that.
SPEAKER_00 (21:04):
I told them, I said, you if you want to name my first
thought process, do what I toldLowe on the live last night.
I said, Kenny Rogers will be myfirst thought process.
SPEAKER_01 (21:13):
Nobody realized Kenny Rogers is from Athens,
though.
SPEAKER_00 (21:16):
I I said Kenny Rogers, I said I said, I never
want to throw this shot atpeople, but anytime I want to
just knock you out, RM.
Yup.
Now, if you want to go black,now B-52s, some of the group was
from Athens, some of themweren't, someone from
Watkinsville or whatever.
B-52s, like, but I want to goour culture of black, right?
(21:37):
That's our Athens culture.
But our black culture, we have ahomeboy, and he's uh of the
Rainbow Comedy.
SPEAKER_02 (21:47):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (21:47):
But he's a comedian and an actor, and he's very
famous.
Who is it?
I just cannot, I can't rememberhis name last night.
But hold up, let me get it.
SPEAKER_01 (21:57):
But I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna I'ma say
something that you that a lot offolks don't don't agree with.
Oh, Nene Leaks.
Yep, Nene Leaks.
Then we got Bubba.
SPEAKER_00 (22:07):
Bubba ain't Bubba ain't from Athens though.
No, but we can give him becausehe already said like right, but
he he repped Athens.
SPEAKER_01 (22:14):
He repped Athens though.
But you'll see but you butyou'll hear, but but Bubba will
come down there and show hisface.
Nene Leaks had Athens look likeit was country.
She went and took them folks togot them Oglethorpe and showed
and made people think that'swhat Athens looked like.
You get what I'm saying?
Yeah, we hunt, yeah, we fish.
SPEAKER_00 (22:36):
Oh, my look, my my big cousin, you know what I'm
saying?
Big Dexter Eccles.
Yep.
He was on um not uh AnthonyBardane, but the other cooking
guy show from Overthought, uhAndrew Zimmerman.
Yep.
Uh so we got some, but I'mtalking about as far as famous,
I'm gonna pull this guy's nameup.
(22:57):
Hold on, I want to make sure.
Cause this guy is, he he got hisown movie, and a lot of people
know him, I just don't know hername.
SPEAKER_01 (23:09):
But it's it's amazing how we know all these
individuals.
But the shit just don't takeoff.
What a lot of people don'trealize that Titus Burgess.
Oh, Titus?
SPEAKER_00 (23:24):
That's one of the most famous people that I can
say is from Actors.
That's black in our community,that's a star, uh, movies,
comedy.
Titus Burgess from Athens,Georgia.
Okay, okay.
I see, I see it.
Yeah, Titus Burgess.
So we gotta understand it'speople for action that are stars
(23:45):
that we don't even know.
Damn.
It's it's people like and I haveto always say this, cause I love
and respect Elite theShowstopper with all my heart.
Bro, he was one of it's a lot ofpeople that had deals out of
Adams.
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (24:03):
Hell Sambo.
SPEAKER_00 (24:04):
Body had a deal at one time.
Uh I'll give you that.
Uh it's a lot of people that hadminor deals.
I'ma say these guys' names.
And they say catch one got anice deal right now.
I don't know.
He the last time I remember whenI I was in the county about
three years ago.
(24:25):
Uh they said it was at thegoddamn uh music awards with the
big catch one Taylor.
I was like, boy, and I I I bewanting to see that you can't be
from your city if it don'tmatter who up there.
I don't care who up there.
I don't care what side of townyou from.
(24:46):
I don't care if I like you,don't like you, know you, don't
know you, I wanna see you there.
I wanna see you win.
I wanna see you win, dog.
I just ain't never been likethat.
I don't care.
I won't I want Tony B to win sobad.
You wanna know why?
Why I feel like Tony B is one ofthe person who actually has the
(25:08):
blueprint.
But like every artist, right?
We all got our own personalflaws.
Yes.
Could be the complaining byeverybody hating.
Yeah.
But I feel like his otherproblem is that when he rap, and
I'ma say this, and I'm nothating, I love you, you know me,
did Joseph Houston third on it.
(25:28):
You be rapping like you rap offpaper.
If you stop doing it, it don'tnever sound like you really know
the song.
No matter what hit you do, youdone had hits, and it sounds
like you like this, it soundslike you rapping out, it don't
sound like you actually know thesong.
It sounds like someone gave youthe song.
Somebody wrote it for you.
You see what I'm saying?
Somebody your own penny pat.
And it and I never feel becauseof Tony Voice, I never feel no
(25:51):
passion out of what he's saying.
I don't know.
Because when he got that, let mesee that ass drop.
That was 80% of what I want outof Tony.
SPEAKER_01 (26:02):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (26:03):
That was the best Tony B version you can ever see.
He was there, that was like, youall you but you I'm talking
about, if I were Dame dancingtoo, I'm like, you almost there.
SPEAKER_01 (26:16):
What's the other song that the Migos took?
Because he was about to blowwith that song, but the Migos
went and did their own versionof it.
SPEAKER_00 (26:29):
I don't, I can't say it.
It can't be Fight Night.
I just I just always rememberFight Night because I know Twan
made to be.
SPEAKER_01 (26:40):
A lot of people don't know.
The Migos used to say they werefrom Athens.
But they from O'Connor.
SPEAKER_00 (26:47):
Look, when Low, when Lowe put this on me last night,
I'm gonna I'm gonna put it likethat.
I'm gonna tell you what I know.
I know this is what I know aboutthe Migos in the Athens
affiliation.
I know that Mike Ball, from whatI think I know, I'm gonna say
think I know, is take off daddy.
(27:10):
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
His mama, they from what I know,I don't even believe they were
born in Addis.
SPEAKER_01 (27:19):
No, they weren't.
SPEAKER_00 (27:20):
They're born on North Side.
SPEAKER_01 (27:24):
That's why they called it North.
SPEAKER_00 (27:26):
And um, but his mama, because his mama, after
Mike Ball had his run a littlebit, or during the run, she
dipped on him.
Yeah.
They they separated and moved upto the A.
That's and then uh I don't knownothing about Quavo.
Yeah.
I've never seen him.
I done seen, I know his folksthat I see in pictures with him
(27:50):
online.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
That that cause I see SheilaWise around a lot.
I see uh mama be on, I forgot uhmama's name.
I forgot that that that lady'sname, but she went around, she
she still real beautiful.
Yeah.
And still try to act, you know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I'm talking about.
Yes.
But uh she that's her hercousin, her nephew, I believe.
(28:11):
Yeah.
Uh but I've never seen him inAthens directly like that.
I know, and I've never heardthem claim acting personally.
I'm just saying that from when Iwas in Atlanta.
SPEAKER_01 (28:20):
Who was it?
Was it um who just got locked upnot too long ago when he got
done and took him on a highspeed chase?
Well, he was out less than amonth.
SPEAKER_00 (28:27):
Uh for Athens?
SPEAKER_01 (28:29):
Yeah.
Cause he got busted.
The first time he got busted onthe black road.
Oh, uh, James.
Talking about James here?
Mm-mm-mm-mm mm.
Um, what's his fucking name?
Because he took him on the tookhim on a run.
Cause it's Quavo signed him.
SPEAKER_00 (28:45):
Oh, yeah, Petro.
Petro, yeah.
Uh, what's called somethingcalled now?
Petro.
I'm gonna tell you of someonethat I feel made away for
anything that no one don'trespect.
Petrol mama, Mona.
SPEAKER_01 (29:03):
Oh, hold on, hold on.
Mona J is Petrol.
SPEAKER_00 (29:09):
Petrol mama, bruh.
That's how he got that.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_01 (29:14):
I did not know Mona.
SPEAKER_00 (29:15):
Mona done put me on in Atlanta.
Like, I done I'd have been at A.
She put me on with the dude.
I was on the first season ofLove.
I was, well, the first show ofLove for Hip Hop, right?
Right.
Uh, because I was working as akind of like a marketing
director for Jay uh for DaveDeJoule.
Yeah.
Dave the Jewler, she was, Idon't know what her affiliation
(29:36):
with Dave DeJulia.
She was doing someone, but shehad, but Mona plug.
SPEAKER_01 (29:40):
Bro, I I remember working with Mona at Athens
Regional.
SPEAKER_00 (29:47):
I was at tech with Mona.
But but that's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01 (29:50):
I did not know that was Petro Mama.
I used to see I used to see Monaover there.
SPEAKER_00 (30:01):
She moved out to uh Cali.
And I hate to say this, thisain't no disrespect.
But I just gotta because ifpeople go look at this online,
Mona, you know people gonna see.
So I'm not saying this to talkabout you.
I just want to make sure youunderstand.
She moved out to Cali, doinggood.
She ended up uh I believe she'sin a relationship with a uh a
dude kind of like porn star.
(30:21):
Yeah.
Everybody was kinda trying tocry on a little bit.
No, you know.
But Mona go get it anywhere shegoes, bro.
I'm talking about from the body.
It don't mean that she's asuperstar famous, but to me, a
woman at the boy, she has put inher work and her due diligence
to be in the industry becauseshe is a part of the music
(30:44):
industry, and people don't knowthat.
You know what I'm saying?
Like in Atlanta, she pushed me,man, she showed me a lot of love
as a Athenian and a homeboy whowent to school for marketing and
athletes and had a record labelup there and did marketing and
put in, you know, someone who'sgonna put you in another room.
Like be like, look, go mess withhim.
He's gonna put you on.
(31:05):
You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01 (31:06):
I mean, but that's what it that's what it all is
about, networking.
Because you gotta you gottafigure out I might not have the
key to that room, but somebodyelse might you gonna help me
down getting into that room.
SPEAKER_00 (31:16):
People don't on don't don't give Mona that type
of respect, but but Mona gotsome keys, bro.
I'm talking about some keysgetting rouge, but you be like,
but I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_01 (31:28):
So this this is my question.
So it's fucked up to me whenI've seen when I hear people
like they pass judgment beforejudgment is even due.
Because they'll say, that's likethat bullshit ass T app.
SPEAKER_00 (31:42):
Yeah, that T app, boy, y'all got hit.
Hey, I'ma let y'all Negroesknow.
That's why I ain't never had oneno car.
I posted on Facebook where y'allwere getting hit.
I'll be y'all caught themessage, but that's why I ain't
never had one no car, man.
My daddy taught me that when Iwas young.
SPEAKER_01 (31:57):
Hey, but don't hey look, we was just talking about
it.
Look, like hey, that's what Iwas just telling him a second
ago.
Why should I rather jump in mylower?
SPEAKER_00 (32:05):
She wanna fuck my car.
There you go, there.
SPEAKER_01 (32:08):
But like I was telling you, shit, I'm ready to
get rid of my charger.
Because if I go anywhere, peoplesay, Oh, is it top black?
Is it front wing shit tennis?
SPEAKER_00 (32:21):
Oh, that's such a city.
No, because we used to thinkit's uh like when I see that,
anytime I seen that, I thoughtthat was my homeboy, the other
nigga who shot uh with for stepone now.
Yeah.
I used to think he him and hisgirl here one right over the uh
Talesy just like that.
You know what I'm saying?
It was like an orange color.
And then the only orange one inAndrew.
So you knew it with Dick.
You know what I'm saying?
You knew it was him.
(32:41):
So that's why I ain't never, Iswear to God, I've never Well,
that's why my shit stays in thegarage every time.
I'm glad that my father taughtme the thing that he taught me
about cars.
I've never been that car guy.
I don't care.
I've never been that person whoreally I've been flashing.
I love jewelry.
Bought some jewelry.
I'ma buy some jewelry, man,because I I feel like it's an
(33:03):
investment.
Right to a certain extent.
I try not to buy BS.
I don't know why y'all buyingstuff off TikTok.
Why?
Why the f why listen, why the Igotta ask that question of
y'all.
Why y'all buying this T Mu jewryand stuff?
I'm not saying it ain't stuff tobe bought off Timu.
SPEAKER_01 (33:23):
You talking about them, you talking about them,
them, them them APs.
But uh yeah, but come on.
SPEAKER_00 (33:28):
If you're gonna buy some jewelry, at least get you
some real metal, man.
Even if you're gonna gomarcanite.
If you got a little marcinite onthere, okay, I got a little
marcanite.
But get you the real metal.
If you don't get the real metal,you're you gonna get killed
about something fake, man.
Yeah.
Like for real.
Like you gonna go out here withall this stuff on, it's shining
(33:50):
for a couple days.
And someone's gonna rob youabout something that ain't even
real.
At least try to have somethingon there.
Real.
I'm not saying, I'm not talkingabout nobody.
It just don't make no sense todie for fake ass shit.
SPEAKER_01 (34:01):
Yeah, no, not no nigga, not no glass.
SPEAKER_00 (34:03):
No saying I'm getting what you and you don't
want to come out there, man.
I ain't coming off my fake dirtchain.
SPEAKER_01 (34:10):
But you give that nigga that fake that dirt.
Give that shit.
Get that nigga that shit, bro.
You get that shit back?
SPEAKER_00 (34:16):
Bro, get what, man.
That Freddy Gill said to me,man, y'all are free picking,
free chicken, because you don'twant to give up that rap, that
thought process of your littlerap image to go down because you
gave your chain up to keep fromdying.
But you better let that rapimage go.
I'm worth more than goddamn 10.
But I'll come back and rap abouthow they took my chain.
(34:37):
I bought another one.
Back in the day, we can'tlisten.
Back in the day when we wereyoung, if someone robbed you, we
didn't think the person who gotrobbed was like.
Hell no.
When we see that person pull upand something new or got some
new shit, like, yeah, theyrobbed me last week, but shit.
I'm back.
SPEAKER_01 (34:53):
I'm back.
I'm nigga out of it.
SPEAKER_00 (34:56):
They fucked them a little bad.
Yeah, but I'm back.
I'm back.
I done seen nigga acting and getrobbed 50 times he still right
now.
Thank you.
And he got plenty of money.
And done had plenty of money,but it just shows how much y'all
hating on that man.
I believe that's that person'sson we talking about.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think so.
Is it is that it starts with a Wor something?
(35:19):
Wingfield or something, man?
Yeah, yes, yes, yes.
Yeah, but see, I'm on that, I'mthat one.
I don't care who called for me.
I and that that's why I saystuff I say, because I say your
name.
You can address me.
My name's Joseph Houston.
You know my mama, you knowBrunner, you know, you know me.
You know I've been they call mecrazy Joe when I was little.
(35:41):
You think it stopped?
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm gonna actually tell thetruth.
I'm not gonna sit here and be ifI'm talking about you or talking
about a subject about you, I'm Ican say names, places, all that
stuff.
SPEAKER_01 (35:53):
But but that's but but but that true aspect of it
is because we don't live in afacade.
Nah, we live in the real world.
Because a lot of people thinkthat, oh, that social media is a
real place.
SPEAKER_00 (36:05):
No, it's not.
SPEAKER_01 (36:05):
They live off of that, like, like, oh, but now
because I was telling somebodyone day, I said, um, like when I
was living overseas, I had abunch of homegirls that was
triples.
I never saw them with theirmakeup off.
So we threw a cookout one day,and they showed up with their
makeup off.
SPEAKER_00 (36:24):
You didn't even know who they was.
But what the fuck?
You thought different peopletrying to come like, who are
you?
SPEAKER_01 (36:28):
Hey, but hell no, you ain't put on this Jack.
This is me.
This is JJ, this is me.
Jeep a creeper.
Big Jeep.
That's that's what the fuck Ithink you look like.
SPEAKER_00 (36:39):
I used to work in a strip club as a chef.
And before I worked there inthis shit, it was vivid.
Club.
Yeah, yeah.
So I've been in and out of thestrip club doing my thing my
whole life.
But I never actually worked init, know how it worked.
You know, people think you knowhow a strip club works until you
actually there.
Yep.
(37:00):
I was inside that motherfucker.
First night about strip clubs, Inever thought about.
You can get robbed.
Hell yeah.
We never got robbed, buteverybody went over strapped.
Everybody.
I'm talking about everybody.
Even the strippers, I know.
Strapped because they could comethrough that door, like they
could.
Could you think about it?
(37:20):
I never thought about it.
That would be the sweetest lickin the world.
Go out there and rob the stripclub.
Everybody hit that.
Let go.
That's crazy.
I never thought about it until Iworked in a strip club.
Secondly, I know everybody beenin love with a stripper, uh,
porn star or somebody.
If you have it, you ain't noguy, right?
(37:42):
I'm just saying.
I'm not saying that you're not aguy.
You are a guy, but you just nota guy like us.
SPEAKER_01 (37:47):
Look, we would hey, I'm gonna go into it.
I'm gonna put it put it outthere like this.
Shit, I I heard niggas that lastnight at work talking about
goddamn um hating on Cardis Baysareolas.
I I didn't see wrong with them.
SPEAKER_00 (37:59):
I seen the pictures of y'all talking about her
areolas look like the ThomasEnglish muffins.
I like Thomas English muffins.
I'm a shit.
But like them talent Englishmuffins.
I'm trying to figure out a DuchyStank so I can get my fantasy
over.
(38:19):
Y'all let me know.
Who gonna let me know?
Because I got the picture on myphone right now.
This is crazy.
Man, that's your man one of theolder cats.
Man, I'll say it, boy.
You a fool, boy.
I don't know how you fuck withthat bag.
Oh boy.
I'm so I'm sorry, but I don'tbut forget the bag.
I'm talking about the bag, man.
(38:41):
But I ain't letting out.
I'm sorry, boy.
Y'all crazy, boy.
You better be trying to well, Idon't I know it probably weird
now.
She done had a baby out ofnothing trying to get a baby.
Uh hold on.
But you do got like three kids,but uh, four how many kids you
got a lot of kids, bro.
At least you stamped it.
SPEAKER_01 (38:59):
But hey, but the but the crazy part about it is he
might have a lot of kids.
He might let her go back out.
But that's like somebody askedme the other day, would what
would you try to spin back?
I said, it depends on the levelof disrespect that you go
through.
Boy, I'm spinning.
But but you get what I'm saying?
It depends on the level ofdisrespect.
(39:20):
We are celebrity.
There ain't no disrespect.
SPEAKER_00 (39:23):
You doing an album right now, baby.
Oh shit.
See, y'all didn't look thatwhile my wife loves me.
You see how supportive I amright now?
Baby, go on shake that.
You doing an admiral.
Yeah, it's all right.
By the book.
Because you think about the bagon the back end.
I'm not finna mess your money.
I'm a business man.
(39:44):
I'm not finna mess your moneyup.
So let's talk about that.
Most dudes can be pimps.
SPEAKER_01 (39:50):
Most dudes ain't dudes.
But because any motherfucker Ifuck with certifiably, any
motherfucker I fuck withcertifiably, if I fuck with you,
I wanna see you win.
SPEAKER_00 (40:02):
Yeah, like that's why I say like if if you if your
occupation is selling coochie,and I'm a market manager, right?
And I know business and I knowpeople who buy coochie.
Hey, go on over there.
Man, look, this nigga papers apretty good motherfucker.
(40:22):
Don't go to him, he ain't gonnatry to give them on the 40.
SPEAKER_01 (40:25):
Hey, because like like bro, I used to tell folks,
like when I went to um like whenI used to go to strip clubs, I
used to have regulars.
They used to come over there andgot them no, if I they came over
there, I'll buy him a drink,we'll sit down in politics,
whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
And I see a motherfucker lookingat her, I say, hey, I'll put a
nap.
I put a napkin over her drink.
I said, That dude over therelooking at you, go get your
money.
Get your money.
(40:46):
She's talking about somethingfor real.
I said, go get your money.
I'm hey, I'm gonna be hereafter.
SPEAKER_00 (40:50):
If in in the respect that I give, if you care about
my nah, I ain't gonna give youno respect for that.
Because my family from SanFrancisco, I come from a line of
assistant, assistant, assistantpimps.
You feel what I'm saying?
And I'm I respect this shit.
Look, if you sit here feelingabout my feelings, talking
(41:13):
about, I are you okay with megoing over there?
I'm mad at you for asking me, amI okay if you go over there?
I'm okay.
I'm not okay if you don't goover there.
Now I'm gonna be okay.
SPEAKER_01 (41:25):
I'm gonna be pissed off if you don't come back with
no money.
SPEAKER_00 (41:28):
I'm pissed off.
I feel pissed on if you comeback with no money.
I'm mad because you didn't evenwant to go over there to see
what the if the money it's aboutsome money.
Right, right, right.
If you just want to- and we in astrip club and this is a money
situation.
Because I mean Because I mightbe helping you get more money by
you sitting over there talkingto me and the fit folk and folk
(41:48):
hating on me.
Sometimes I used to do that instrip clubs.
I had friends that were girls atstrip clubs, and we'd sit there
and shit politics.
When it's a slow night, she'ssitting there politics with me
just to make sure it looked likeI'm like her boyfriend and ain't
gonna get mad and want to spendmoney.
Yep.
It's a whole game.
SPEAKER_01 (42:06):
Yep.
Man, shit.
Let me tell you something.
Cause uh a lot of y'all don'trealize this shit.
Cause I do that shit for myhomegirls too.
Like they go on that stage anddance and shake their ass.
And I tell them, hey, when youget up, this motherfucker, these
niggas watching.
So you gotta go up there andmotherfucker and goddamn put on
a motherfucking show.
Therefore, so we can goddamnmake this bag.
(42:29):
You'll see me throw$20 out.
This motherfucker goddamn toldme, man, I'm gonna outdo this
nigga.
Yep.
And he gonna throw 40.
Another motherfucker might throw60.
SPEAKER_00 (42:39):
Look, dudes, I try to tell my son all the time, you
need female friends that youdon't try to have sex with.
Like real female friends.
SPEAKER_01 (42:49):
First of all, a lot of niggas don't understand that.
And a lot of females don'tunderstand that because they
they they think that everyfemale that we cool with, we
gotta try to fuck.
SPEAKER_00 (42:59):
You need them, bro.
They got so when I got out ofprison, bro, I knew it was
females that it was so females Ijust kind of smashed.
SPEAKER_01 (43:11):
I don't feel like it was they couldn't, that you
couldn't smash.
I just felt like we have adifferent bond.
SPEAKER_00 (43:16):
We were too good of a friend.
It don't mean that ourfriendship was so close and then
feel like maybe if we take thisto a different level, it would
be good.
But it was like, I would ratherhave you as a friend than to
lose you as a in a relationship.
Relationship.
SPEAKER_01 (43:34):
Because the way I look at folks, certain
individuals, like I value moreis that you're a friend.
It means so much more to me tohave you as a friend than on
that next level.
Because you know what I'msaying?
Because it's like I know I gotyour back the same way you got
mine.
SPEAKER_00 (43:50):
I want to know why women are better friends than
men than men are to men.
Talk to me.
No matter how cool you are witha dude, no matter if y'all grew
up together, and I hate to saythis, this is just my thought
process.
I'm not saying I don't have afriend that we thoroughly love
each other.
I thoroughly love a lot of myfriends, and I know they love
(44:12):
me.
But a dude always has jealousy.
Yeah.
So that means if both of usstart off with an ounce, right?
I come back next week.
You still got the same stuff.
Like you doing your thing, but Icome back next week in the
bench.
Lit.
Like, bro, what up?
(44:34):
Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Hey, yeah.
Yeah, you finna gonna get twoon?
Hey, I'll be on, let me go droptwo.
I'm gonna come back right backbefore which I'm gonna bring
some drinks too.
You sinna like What the fuck?
No man, I don't care what niggayou is.
Now, now if that's a girl, I'mgonna tell you the game between
(44:55):
girls being your friend.
Women want to see you doinggood.
Women want you to promote you.
They want you to be in a goodposition.
Cause they're motherly.
Yeah, yeah.
We are men.
Yeah.
After so long, it don't counterhow much you up.
If I ain't up with you, nigga,fuck you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
(45:16):
You get what I'm saying?
That's how that shit goes.
Unless you just say an undying,like y'all just done bend up
from the bottom.
Yeah.
Y'all done had a struggle withyou.
You gotta be there, you donebeen at the bottom with the
nigga, you gotta have somemoney.
You done been in the bottom withthe nigga, you gotta have some
money.
Okay, if not, a nigga gonna feelsome kind of way about you if
you go up on him.
If you working at a job rightnow, both of y'all start
(45:38):
together,$20 hour.
Y'all happy about$20.
Then, but his credit fucked up,your credit good, you go pull up
in the challenger, and he stillriding the Toyota.
Boy, he hot.
He hot, he's 38.
You get what I'm saying?
He wanna know how you got it.
Yup.
Bro, but how you got down there?
He ain't he ain't saying thatlike, bro, hey man, you know,
(45:58):
um, you that credit prep placeyou were telling me about, bro,
but put me on games, I got toget me something new, bro, about
next year, bro.
I've been saving up.
Hell yeah, my nigga, da da da.
Not not just in a nigga, man,fuck that nigga, bro, man.
Man, that's why man, that niggacheat on that girl, bro.
Oh, they start throwing outdime.
Hey, look, look, like, man, shh,man.
(46:20):
No nigga pedal talking.
That one thing about nigga, Ilook, thug.
I done seen your kind before.
Listen, I done seen people actlike they ain't told nothing.
It's okay, brother.
This is what I want to tell you,though.
Look, man.
You done had your run.
(46:41):
Sometimes when you lose thegame, you can get booed off or
you can get walk off.
You got a choice right now.
Don't get booed off, dog.
You gotta be, well, that's kindathat's kinda, you get booed
right now.
But you can make it worse.
(47:01):
Now, you free, right?
You don't got to be donethrowing on everything you said
to no folk when you walking outthat courtroom.
Look, I'm gonna try to be, uh,I'm gonna do some free concerts,
and we're gonna you need to bedoing that.
Be a civilian.
Look, get what?
Go do some gossip music likeyeah, doing Y ain't doing some
(47:24):
gossip music, he listening.
Go do a gossip song like Yaydoing, bro.
SPEAKER_01 (47:27):
He didn't yet get with the uh the attorney.
SPEAKER_00 (47:32):
Oh nah nah, the person who with the turn is uh
Shannon.
He chillin'.
You see, he ain't here.
Shannon chillin', go make you agospel song, bro.
It'll be alright.
Cause you do not bank let youget away.
Real street niggas, nah.
(47:53):
We seen as in that interview, assoon as you start doing like
this, and we know you ain't ondrug no more.
Cause I know you when you usedto be on drugs and you actually
used to be like that.
So we know you ain't on drug.
And when you start acting likethat and start playing, when you
were talking about where youfrom, you were, yeah, man, you
know I'm from goddamn JoanBurrow's out dah duh.
Everything was all good.
Soon they started talking aboutthat situation, you shaking like
(48:15):
a two-dollar hole in Sundayserver.
Got uncomfortable like amotherfucker.
I feel you.
Got the tweaking, got thetweaking.
Yeah, what?
Where I come from, and off fromthe country, off from Adam
George.
Look here.
They tell you off the rip.
If you go in there, you don'tknow nothing, bruh.
I was 15, 14 years old.
(48:37):
You can't sit here and pull thaton me, bruh.
I was 14, 15 years old.
I had people telling on me.
And I'm sitting there like this,yeah.
My lawyer showing me thepaperwork.
Rest in peace, Todd Woo.
He's showing me the paperwork.
Man, this man telling on you,this man tending on you.
Lil Joe, they gonna give you ayear.
(48:58):
Take the five years, do one, godo some RYDC time, get out and
do and get what?
You you might not even get RYDCtime.
We might go and get you to themilitary, gonna get you up out
of here.
You gotta get you doing good athis show.
You gotta get IQ, you donebusted basic skill test, just go
on.
Get what I wanna be.
I thought I was Tupac.
I want to be MT.
(49:19):
I want to be titty head.
I wanna be uh Big Dale fromSpring Valley.
I want to be fat G.
I wanna be Shane.
I wanna, I wanna I wanna be, Iwanna go jail.
I want to go jail.
That's what I'm saying.
See me down the road.
I'm really like that.
I know I am.
I didn't know I was like that,it just don't happen.
SPEAKER_01 (49:35):
I was, but it could have been a situation where I
really wasn't.
Because hey, we done seen a lotof niggas got them going go
behind that wall, go on themstay and go on them staycations
and they ain't built for thatshit.
They be up there talking aboutsome tap out.
I'm uh I'm I'm reformed.
SPEAKER_00 (49:49):
Well, I got a I got a home where and this I don't
when I get in these situations,I don't say no name.
But it's someone whodisappointed me when I was
locked up really bad, and I wasthere to save him.
I could have saved him.
All he had to do was want to besaved.
And he didn't do it, and heain't even really about
homework.
He ain't we ain't from the samehood, and I tried to save him.
Look, just think about it, youknow that shit don't go.
(50:12):
Nigga, you in and I I don't lookat better hole at the West Side.
I just want to make sure y'allunderstand that.
That's me, that's that's that'scentral ass.
That's central ass, yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
So the dude I'm talking about,he's from the belt.
Oh, lived in the belt a lot.
I ain't gonna say you're from,but it's ready for party.
Oh god.
Really, we out of the niggaparty, I believe.
(50:33):
But but I was there to save him,and he wouldn't let me.
He basically was if a dude.
SPEAKER_01 (50:42):
Maybe call them crash dummies.
SPEAKER_00 (50:44):
Nah, I'm I'm gonna put like this up.
If you're in a situation, I'm inanother situation with a
homeboy, and I say a name,because they're my partner.
There, he like, bro, I don'tknow what I'm gonna do with this
shit.
You know what I'm saying?
We was in boot camp.
He like, bro, I don't know.
I was like, bro, I got you.
I don't give a fuck, bro.
Bro, I'm I'm you know what I'msaying?
You know, I didn't know I wouldthen when I was telling Lola,
(51:04):
like, that when I kind of justfirst started feeling like I
knew I was that.
You know, I was already thenerd, the cool, the weird,
whatever.
You know what I'm saying?
My dad smoked dope, all that,goddamn.
You know what I'm saying?
So I was already chasing thedream of wanting to be a
gangster or wanting to bewhoever I thought I was.
Little Joe Springfield, JoeCool, Crazy Joe, whoever I
thought I was.
But I ain't know who I was untilI seen someone want to remember
(51:28):
my own words.
Yeah.
Then I really knew how much Icared for actors and how
gangster I was for real and whoI was.
Because I realized from being onstreets in the east side, west
side, and not getting along withyou, that I could get over this
because ain't no one else gonnafuck with us and make us look
back.
Cause when I seen how um townsand cities get portrayed if your
(51:50):
people don't look good, I ain'twant us to look like that in
Chang'e.
Right, absolutely.
And I'd have been in situationswhere I done went to Chang, they
be looking at you like, oh, yourhomeboy, some BS.
Right.
And you looking like I can'tbelieve that.
SPEAKER_01 (52:07):
On that note, I gotta cut it short.
Right.
Cause I gotta get to my son'sdentist appointment.
SPEAKER_00 (52:13):
Dennis appointment.
SPEAKER_01 (52:14):
Hey, that's what it talks about.
Hey, real shit, you gotta dodaddy shit straight up.
But thank you for making gettingus here on four.
Sister Puss only meets therecipe.
Man, all the menu.
Hey, we out.
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