April 16, 2025 • 25 mins
Trust—once broken, it transforms relationships forever. This raw, unfiltered episode dives deep into the epidemic of "pillow talking" and why it violates the fundamental code that genuine connections are built upon.
When did sharing someone's private business become acceptable? From intimate details to personal struggles, the host breaks down why divulging confidential conversations betrays trust in ways that can never be fully repaired. "If I find out you pillow talking, I can't consider you a friend no more," he states plainly, articulating a boundary that resonates with anyone who values loyalty.
The conversation evolves into a powerful metaphor about wolves versus sheep—distinguishing between those who inspire growth and those who simply follow without purpose. True connections should challenge you to become better, support your ambitions, and maintain unwavering loyalty. "I want to be surrounded by individuals where we can talk about business, goals, advantages, and help each other grow," the host explains, highlighting that relationships should elevate rather than diminish us.
Modern communication further complicates these dynamics. Text messages get misinterpreted, and generational differences in language create barriers. The solution? Sometimes you need to pick up the phone or have conversations face-to-face—a refreshingly direct approach to preventing misunderstandings before they damage relationships.
Whether you're reevaluating your inner circle or setting stronger boundaries, this episode offers a no-nonsense guide to navigating loyalty in a world where discretion has become increasingly rare. Listen now to discover why protecting someone's confidence isn't just about respect—it's about integrity.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, what's happening ?
What's happening, steppers?
I just want to tell y'allwelcome to Four Steppers Only.
Hey, I'm your host,motherfucking Jack.
Yeah, hey, when I tell you tosit down and watch a
motherfucking Stepper Step hereon that motherfucking podcast
(00:21):
that you always want to infectyour earlobes with.
But anyway, hey, hey, we backto the basics.
I'm sorry that y'all ain'theard from me in a little bit.
It.
It takes a little practice toget back into the groove.
You know, um, last month I didsix episodes and I felt like I
was giving y'all a little bittoo much.
But now shit, hey, back to ourregularly scheduled program,
(00:45):
because some shit really bothersme about the way people move
nowadays, because they move alittle weird, they move a little
wonky, hey, they move a littlesuspect as fuck to where they be
talking about.
Oh, I'm a good person.
Nah, nigga, you're a pillowtalker, and I can't agree with
pillow talkers Because that'sthe I mean of the basics of shit
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.
I was raised Because thesepillow talking ass men, these
pillow talking ass women, gotthis shit misconstrued in their
minds, because they think thatshit is cool, they think that
shit is acceptable, and to me,that shit is far from acceptable
, because when I was raised, Iwas raised by a code you dig.
The code was like If me and youare having a conversation, you
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trust me to have thatconversation with me, because a
lot of individuals will let youtell them whatever they want,
what you want to tell them.
Then they run back to the nextmotherfucker and tell them
whatever the fuck that, what thefuck you said, or a into,
involve you in a bullshit,involve you in a situation and
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that shit, weird as fuck.
I ain't gonna hold you becauseif I put, if I put you on GP or
I put you on game about certainsituations or certain
individuals, that shit issupposed to be like a little
cheat sheet for your notebookand your mental and your mental
for like, okay, shit, he hadthis experience with this person
.
Maybe I need to watch the waythis motherfucker move around me
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, because for you to run backand tell him what I said, nigga.
Now I can't trust you, becausenow what you running and telling
everything, or everything thatyou see, or everything that
happened around me, it ain't forthat motherfucker period to got
down.
No, you get what I'm saying andI guess what.
That's what the loyalties lie,because a lot of these
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motherfuckers will got down tellpersonal shit for personal gain
, personal, like just to get apiece of pussy, a piece of dick,
and and that shit weird as fuckto me.
I ain't even gonna hold youbecause the way I operate, the
way I move the shit that youtell me, if they ain't around to
know, they ain't around tolisten, they ain't around to be
involved in a conversation ordefend themselves, bro, that
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ain't it, ain't your place togot.
No one go back and tell thenext motherfucker what was said
or what I said about a certainsituation, and people and people
do that shit and that shit isweird as fuck.
Weird as fuck because, like,let me tell you something, me
and a couple of my partners haveus, like I grew up, grew up
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with like, um, like we've beenfriends.
We've been friends since, yay,high inch, high to an inch,
sandbox level, school level, andwe understand the code.
You get what I'm saying.
What don't need to be said,don't need to be explained.
I know a lot of y'allunderstand that terminology, but
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a lot of y'all don't, becausey'all slow and y'all mental.
But a lot of y'all step wasunderstand that bullshit.
But because, like I was tellingsomebody the other day.
What is the personal purpose ofyou telling somebody something
I said or, matter of fact, ain'teven about something I said.
If you were, if I would havecalled you and told you what the
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fuck was going on with me.
Why are you telling this femaleor this male Then they got
nothing to do with the situation.
What is?
What is what has happened?
That shit is fucking weird.
Now I got to look at you acertain way, I got to address
you a certain way, or now I justdon't trust you the same way I
used to trust you, because theway I look at it is is is
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optimal.
It's like if this motherfuckerused to we'll, we'll take it to
the extreme.
This motherfucker used to selldope, but you know he done
changed his life around.
He done went to jail this, thatand that in a third.
All I can speak on is the shitthat you tell me.
You feed me information.
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I'm gonna come back with arebuttal.
That's, you know, parliament,to the conversation that we're
having.
Not knowing like shit.
Yeah, that motherfucker, yousell cocaine, heroin and it's on
the third, whoa.
That's not for them to know,that's for that person to tell
them, if they are involved withthem.
It is not your responsibilityto leak you know top level for
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top five clearance secrets aboutthis individual and a lot of
people don't understand thatthat's bullshit, because even
we'll take it to another extreme.
I'm sorry to gotten on, you know, just keep jumping from topic
to topic.
But this, this has to be saidbecause too many motherfuckers
out here think that shit is coolto me and the way I was raised,
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that's that.
Them fighting terms, that shitmessy, that's that man.
I can't fuck with that personbecause I can't trust this
person.
Because they're gonna tellanything and everything that
they see or I I'm exposed to, orany situation I got going on to
the next motherfucker that Idon't know or don't trust.
Because now this person thatyou don't, that he don't leak
information over to, can takethat shit and run with it.
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Because let's go ahead andlet's go ahead and keep this
shit funky.
Why are you telling shit tothis person?
So they can dislike me, so theycan hate on me, so they can be
on your side of this.
That and the third, because my,I'm sorry, I base my theories
and the way I treat people offthe way they treat me.
Whatever the fuck y'all hadgoing on over there ain't got
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shit to do with me.
Because what you got tounderstand with most people they
only going to privy you to orinclude you in certain things.
When it's beneficial, that'slike okay, they're going,
they're going to tell you allthe bad shit about a person, but
they ain't going to never tellyou the way they looked out.
Well, you needed a place tosleep.
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Well, you needed a place to gotnow, or you needed a couple
dollars because your lightsabout to get turned off or your
cell phone about to get turnedoff.
They ain't gonna tell you thatshit.
Or the way a nigga bought you agoddamn computer, or where your
cell phone got cut off, he putyou in position to help you out.
Or look out for.
Look out for you because basedoff the way they fought with you
because a lot of people don'taren't privy or that they can't
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wrap their mental around thisshit, so fuck with people.
How they fought with you it's.
It's like seasoning you can'tput every type of seasoning on
every type of food, because thatshit gonna fuck up your taste
buds.
Did y'all track that?
Because that's the same way weused to tell people hey, bro,
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shit, if I fuck with a certainperson or I'm I'm dealing with a
certain person, I'm not fin toinclude them into shit.
I know that you got going onand I know you don't fuck with
them, just based off ourconversations.
We don't have or the energy oryou ain't got to tell me why you
don't fuck with them.
You just don't fuck with thembecause, like I tell people all
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the time, shit.
They ask me Jack, why do youchoose not to fuck with me?
I said, man, based off theirenergy and just the way they
move.
If they move like chess piecesor checkers and they just
looking for positions ofattention, man, I can't fuck
with them.
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I'm sorry y'all, I'm pausingthere.
I'm freestyling this shit andit's just coming straight from
my mental.
I don't have a little notepad Idon't go off of.
This is just the bullshit thatI deal with and I see that's
some fucked up bullshit andpeople don't see that it's
fucked up.
That's like okay, I'll give youanother example.
That's like if a female has anex and she's telling you all the
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bad shit about this individual,shawty, why were you fucking
with him if the only thing youcan tell me the bad shit.
It had to be some good shitabout this motherfucker for you
to fuck with him.
You get what I'm saying.
And vice versa.
Man, shit bro, why are you,pillow, talking about you?
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You done fucked.
Y'all.
That's sacred.
That ain't nobody else'sbusiness except for y'all.
If y'all fucked, y'all fucked.
You get what I'm saying.
You ain't got to tell the worldhow nasty she is, how goddamn
she gargle your nut, how shelick your ass or play in your
asshole None of that shit.
How she goddamn squirt shit,creamer this, that and the third
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, that ain't none of that shit.
How she got down, squirt she acream of this, that and the
third, that ain't none of yourbusiness.
And I'm tired of niggas gettingthat confused with you just
bragging about some shit, bro.
Why we gotta brag about pussy?
Are we 12?
Are we 13?
If you did, you did.
If you didn't, you didn't.
If the motherfucker just foughtwith you on a friend type level
, in a friend type basis, thenthat's what it is.
Don't go lying and saying someshit that ain't even happened,
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because you might get checkedabout the shit and a lot of
people don't understand thatshit and then you get treated
like the cold side of the pillowthat nobody want to touch,
nobody want to fuck with at all,because it's like, yeah, I fuck
with you every once in a while,but I'm gonna fuck with you on
a regular basis.
Or shit, don't invite thatnigga over my house, I don't
fuck with him, or you gettreated that way, but then you
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got down anyway.
But I just can't agree withcertain individuals.
Pillow talking, that shit isnot cool.
I don't understand what insociety pushed everything to
that aspect to where we need totell people everything that goes
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on.
Because that shit weird.
Because, hey, if I got apartner to do coke, that man and
it ain't for the outside worldto know that's his habit, that's
his responsibility.
If I got a partner that gotthem just out here fucking
airtime, dick and harry, orthat's his, that's his, that's
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his part, that's his preface.
Or you got a motherfuckinghomeboy that keep getting fucked
over and fucked over and fuckedover and he's, he's confiding,
what the shit and the stressorsthat he's going through, that
ain't your place to tell nobodyelse.
Because what you pillow talkingto a bit I'm sorry, not, not,
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not to be disrespectful youpillow talking to a female or
male, they're gonna give you thepussy or the dick either way,
because they that's what theychoose to do.
You just fuck with them on yourpersonal level of fucking with
them.
You don't have to includeeverybody in your situation
unless you trust them, unlessthey got them down there, you
you know you can got them.
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Take some shit to the gravewith them and they don't prove
themselves with you becauseeverybody doesn't have that
proof, everybody doesn't havethat same loyalty within their
souls with them.
Fucking with each other likethat and that shit weird.
Honestly, that shit weird.
I'm.
I'm just saying because ninetimes out of ten, a female
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goddamn gonna fuck with you theway she want to fuck with you.
You ain't gotta goddamn go likeshh.
Let me, let me goddamn saltthis nigga up so she don't
goddamn find him attractive.
She might still fuck with himand not choose to fuck with you.
Just because I can't trust thismotherfucker, that's not
telling my business to anybodyand everybody that's goddamn
gonna listen, or everybody thathe's not around.
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So it's.
It's based on how you move andyour and your responsibilities
in life, not nobody else's.
You get what I'm saying Becausea lot of people fail to realize
that bullshit and they don'tknow how to move from that shit
you get me.
It's just a lot and I'm going togo ahead and tell y'all like
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this let's keep it funky.
I can't consider you a friendno more.
If I find out you pillowtalking.
I can't fuck with you on thesame capacity.
If you pillow talking, how do Iconsider you a friend?
You didn't want to protect myneck from these toxic ass
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outside walls, because that'swhat friends do.
Friends look out for individualsthey truly fought with.
They hold genuine.
That is closer, that's close toblood.
If you don't really fought withthem nigga, that's an
acquaintance.
Nigga, that's an op, nigga,that's an enemy how, how can you
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sit there and trust them?
You can't, I mean, and that'ssome real shit.
You really can't trust them nomore, because they're gonna move
the way they want to move andspread shit the way they want to
spread.
And you can.
There's nothing you can doabout it.
Yeah, man, because man, I meanpeople move out here.
Wonky and weird man, that's,that's all it has to say about
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it.
But that's like just because amotherfucker hanging around you
24 7 got down kicking a bobowith you, blah, blah, blah.
That motherfucker got down mightbe, that might motherfucker,
might be a whole leech, becauseI'm so used to hanging around
wolves and sharks that we, we,we got down.
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We, we, we consider ourselveswolves because we're like-minded
, we have the same ambitions.
We I'm sorry, let me refrainthat we might not have the same
ambitions, but we still have thesame support in each other that
we're supposed to have, and alot of these motherfuckers will
will be a wolf in sheep'sclothing.
You get what I'm saying.
They will.
They will dress up supposed tohave, and a lot of these
motherfuckers will what will bea wolf in sheep's clothing.
You get what I'm saying.
They will.
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They will dress up like a wolfand a motherfucker, but they
really are sheep.
They want to be herded, theywant to be guided.
Then wolves gonna hunt in thepack with a bunch of wolves and
you're gonna know that energywhen a motherfucker walk in the
room, because most sheep willtuck their legs and got down by
and go the fuck on.
Wolves gonna be like this shit,bro, what you got, what you got
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moving, what you got cooking, ohshit, for real shit.
I got this idea.
You want to try this idea.
You want to move this way, bro,I got that shit, I got going on
and they and they push you tobe better, because nobody wants
to hang around a bunch of sheepwhen you're a wolf or you're a
shark and you from it with abunch of fish, nigga, all them
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fish, finna, look like food tome.
Because I'm not, I'm not here to.
I want to be surrounded byniggas or individuals, whether
whether it's men or women, andwe can talk about business, or
we can talk about goals, we cantalk about advantages and we can
help each other grow.
Because if we can't help eachother grow, why the fuck are you
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around me?
Because I can't hang withmotherfuckers that want to get
told drunk every time I see them.
They want to get goddamn jukedout.
Every time I see them, oh, bro,shit, the first thing they have
out their mouth is bro, shit, Igotta go get me some new pussy.
Is that what your life is basedoff of?
That little Minuscule Aspect oflife Is getting your dick wet.
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How Don't you have sustenance,don't you have value?
Like they say, chase your goalsand ambitions now and
everything else will fall inplace.
Maybe, maybe you will find thatwoman that wants to see you
grow, wants to be, see youbecome the best version of you,
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instead of you just worriedabout getting your dick wet, and
that's and that's ridiculous,because a lot of men out here
will pillow talk and pillow talkand pillow talk Just to derail
you from your happiness.
Females will do the same,because that's why they say a
lot of times, birds of a featherflock together.
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Toxic people hang with toxicpeople.
People that are toxic areinvolved with toxic people and
that and that's fucking retardedand remedial for me because I'm
sorry in my life, my 38 years,about to be about to be 39 damn,
I'm about to be 40 motherfucker.
Um, in my, in my mind, in myaspect, to see my partners or my
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homeboys win or doing shit goodfor themselves makes me happy,
makes me feel like shit.
The conversation that we've hadabout our dreams and goals and
ambitions pays off or is payingoff, or it's motivating you to
do something different ormotivating you to gain traction
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in another aspect of your life,when you're around certain
individuals that don't want tosee you win, because everybody
in this world does not want tosee you win, because, like we've
said in other other uh podcasts, some of these men or some of
these women out here want to bea crab, a lobster, but really
they imitation crab meat.
They come out phony, they cameoff fake, they come off
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fraudulent and their energyisn't genuine with you.
So what do you do?
You treat them accordingly.
You treat them like they are,like they are.
That.
This ain't real, this ain'tfake.
This is phony right here.
And sometimes I'm sorry.
You don't have to addresseverything that happens.
You just know when and where tofuck with them or what capacity
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to fuck with them on, andthat's fucked up.
It's really fucked up becausesometimes you want to give
people the benefit of the doubtand you can't because they, they
, they have already tainted thatthought or that process in your
mind to where you don't want tofuck with them on that level
anymore.
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It's like you can't double back.
It's like, okay, you canforgive, but you don't forget.
You come on.
Fucked up to me.
I'm, I might, I might not fuckwith you, no more, I might be
just goddamn.
Two cars passing traffic, Imight see you and you might see
me speak and keep it pushing.
It ain't no, what's up, dog?
I said I'm the worst personthat does this shit because I
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usually make people.
Let it be known if I fuck withthem, I don't fuck with them
Because my facial expressionswear right there in front of you
.
It's like a billboard.
Or I might speak to individualsaround you, but never say two
words to you again, because Iknow that you violated my trust.
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You violated my type offriendship with you
Companionship, relationship,situationship, whatever the fuck
it is Because when I startlooking at you a certain way, I
start treating you a certain way, eventually to the point where
it's like it's like that food inthe lunch line that you look at
and be like you said this shitlasagna, but this shit look
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nasty as fuck.
And that's the same way I treatpeople.
It's like, yeah, I know whatyou say, you are, but you, you
coming off something totallydifferent.
It's like, but people say, oh,you're supposed to forgive and
forget the fuck.
There's no way in human naturethat we forget that easy.
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We try to make people look atus in a different light.
We attempt to, but it's hard asfuck.
Even when you fucked up, youeat that shit, you own that shit
and you try to show themsomething different.
And it's like it takes morework.
That's like I'm going to keepit funky with you.
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That's like if somebody sayssomething about me and I tell
them like this, I believewhatever the fuck they said.
Because I'm not here to argueor change your mental about
whatever they say or the way totreat you differently, because
now you have what their thought,what they to tell you, or their
their version of me to.
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Well, how can I put it?
They wanted to you to heartheir version of me, no matter
whether it's real or fake, nomatter whether it's lies or
anything.
They just want you to believethat.
So I tell them now shit, heybelieve whatever that
motherfucker said to you.
Because I'm not here to debatethat, because if you truly fuck
with me, you see how I operate,you see how I move and all of
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that shit might not be true, butyou so blindside about what
this person's telling you.
Hey, you just go off whateverthe fuck they say, because, like
my mom used to tell me when Iwas growing up, you only bet,
you believe only half.
You only believe half of whatyou see and none of what you
hear, unless you have solidifiedproof in front of you saying
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this is this individual, this isbecause that's like okay, I'll
give you another perfect example.
That's like you see conceptlike text messages.
Text messages can be construedin so many different ways, so
many.
Because, like, like, I tellpeople in the heartbeat you can
read my shit and if I don't feellike arguing with you, I just
short talk you or I'll get mypoint out and I'll let you talk
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to yourself.
You can only, you can only gointo so much depth through a
text message because I'll goahead and keep it funky with you
.
Shit, I had a guy.
I saw somebody text me acertain way and I picked up that
phone and called him hey, bro,what type of shit you want?
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Oh, bro, I didn't mean it likethat.
Bro.
You mean, hey, the next timebefore you goddamn think about
sending that message, read thatshit before you press send,
because your energy can bemisconstrued through a text.
And that's what I wish a lot ofpeople would go back to.
Because, man, hey, a phone calltakes two seconds, a text
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message can be misconstrued orunderstood so many different
ways that you did not mean Atext message might have y'all
beefing.
And you might not even mean itlike that, because I guess I'm
the old type of generation yousay some bullshit through a text
.
I might have to call you, Imight have to say something to
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you.
I might have to say somethingto you.
That's like I've realizedcertain lingo and certain
phrases that I had growing up.
This new generation doesn'tmean the same.
That's like, man, we having adisagreement and you tell me hey
, bro, I just want to pull up onyou and see you face to face.
To me that's fighting terms.
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Hey, we about to get dusty, getdusty.
Hey.
Hey, play some with straightlike.
I'll tell somebody in aheartbeat, straight to their
face play in the street, notwith me, because that that that
shows you what that's, thattells them where you stand,
because they know.
But then they try to retract andthen they come off fucked up,
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and now they don't know wherethe hell to go, because now they
didn't got a fuck up taste intheir mouth about you, or you
got a fuck up taste in yourmouth about me, based on a truth
or a lie or a misconception ofthe smallest and minuscule
things that you could possiblyever do to somebody.
But hey, shit is, it is what itis and ain't what it ain't.
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But I just want to let y'allhit.
I want to thank y'all forletting me vent to y'all a
little bit on this wonderful,wonderful wednesday afternoon.
Here on four step was only weout?
Peace, outro Music, oh yeah.
Hey, what's happening ?
What's happening, steppers?
I just want to tell y'allwelcome to Four Steppers Only.
Hey, I'm your host,motherfucking Jack.
Yeah, hey, when I tell you tosit down and watch a
motherfucking Stepper Step hereon that motherfucking podcast
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that you always want to infectyour earlobes with.
But anyway, hey, hey, we backto the basics.
I'm sorry that y'all ain'theard from me in a little bit.
It.
It takes a little practice toget back into the groove.
You know, um, last month I didsix episodes and I felt like I
was giving y'all a little bittoo much.
But now shit, hey, back to ourregularly scheduled program,
(00:45):
because some shit really bothersme about the way people move
nowadays, because they move alittle weird, they move a little
wonky, hey, they move a littlesuspect as fuck to where they be
talking about.
Oh, I'm a good person.
Nah, nigga, you're a pillowtalker, and I can't agree with
pillow talkers Because that'sthe I mean of the basics of shit
(01:05):
.
I was raised Because thesepillow talking ass men, these
pillow talking ass women, gotthis shit misconstrued in their
minds, because they think thatshit is cool, they think that
shit is acceptable, and to me,that shit is far from acceptable
, because when I was raised, Iwas raised by a code you dig.
The code was like If me and youare having a conversation, you
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trust me to have thatconversation with me, because a
lot of individuals will let youtell them whatever they want,
what you want to tell them.
Then they run back to the nextmotherfucker and tell them
whatever the fuck that, what thefuck you said, or a into,
involve you in a bullshit,involve you in a situation and
(01:50):
that shit, weird as fuck.
I ain't gonna hold you becauseif I put, if I put you on GP or
I put you on game about certainsituations or certain
individuals, that shit issupposed to be like a little
cheat sheet for your notebookand your mental and your mental
for like, okay, shit, he hadthis experience with this person
.
Maybe I need to watch the waythis motherfucker move around me
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, because for you to run backand tell him what I said, nigga.
Now I can't trust you, becausenow what you running and telling
everything, or everything thatyou see, or everything that
happened around me, it ain't forthat motherfucker period to got
down.
No, you get what I'm saying andI guess what.
That's what the loyalties lie,because a lot of these
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motherfuckers will got down tellpersonal shit for personal gain
, personal, like just to get apiece of pussy, a piece of dick,
and and that shit weird as fuckto me.
I ain't even gonna hold youbecause the way I operate, the
way I move the shit that youtell me, if they ain't around to
know, they ain't around tolisten, they ain't around to be
involved in a conversation ordefend themselves, bro, that
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ain't it, ain't your place togot.
No one go back and tell thenext motherfucker what was said
or what I said about a certainsituation, and people and people
do that shit and that shit isweird as fuck.
Weird as fuck because, like,let me tell you something, me
and a couple of my partners haveus, like I grew up, grew up
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with like, um, like we've beenfriends.
We've been friends since, yay,high inch, high to an inch,
sandbox level, school level, andwe understand the code.
You get what I'm saying.
What don't need to be said,don't need to be explained.
I know a lot of y'allunderstand that terminology, but
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a lot of y'all don't, becausey'all slow and y'all mental.
But a lot of y'all step wasunderstand that bullshit.
But because, like I was tellingsomebody the other day.
What is the personal purpose ofyou telling somebody something
I said or, matter of fact, ain'teven about something I said.
If you were, if I would havecalled you and told you what the
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fuck was going on with me.
Why are you telling this femaleor this male Then they got
nothing to do with the situation.
What is?
What is what has happened?
That shit is fucking weird.
Now I got to look at you acertain way, I got to address
you a certain way, or now I justdon't trust you the same way I
used to trust you, because theway I look at it is is is
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optimal.
It's like if this motherfuckerused to we'll, we'll take it to
the extreme.
This motherfucker used to selldope, but you know he done
changed his life around.
He done went to jail this, thatand that in a third.
All I can speak on is the shitthat you tell me.
You feed me information.
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I'm gonna come back with arebuttal.
That's, you know, parliament,to the conversation that we're
having.
Not knowing like shit.
Yeah, that motherfucker, yousell cocaine, heroin and it's on
the third, whoa.
That's not for them to know,that's for that person to tell
them, if they are involved withthem.
It is not your responsibilityto leak you know top level for
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top five clearance secrets aboutthis individual and a lot of
people don't understand thatthat's bullshit, because even
we'll take it to another extreme.
I'm sorry to gotten on, you know, just keep jumping from topic
to topic.
But this, this has to be saidbecause too many motherfuckers
out here think that shit is coolto me and the way I was raised,
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that's that.
Them fighting terms, that shitmessy, that's that man.
I can't fuck with that personbecause I can't trust this
person.
Because they're gonna tellanything and everything that
they see or I I'm exposed to, orany situation I got going on to
the next motherfucker that Idon't know or don't trust.
Because now this person thatyou don't, that he don't leak
information over to, can takethat shit and run with it.
(06:01):
Because let's go ahead andlet's go ahead and keep this
shit funky.
Why are you telling shit tothis person?
So they can dislike me, so theycan hate on me, so they can be
on your side of this.
That and the third, because my,I'm sorry, I base my theories
and the way I treat people offthe way they treat me.
Whatever the fuck y'all hadgoing on over there ain't got
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shit to do with me.
Because what you got tounderstand with most people they
only going to privy you to orinclude you in certain things.
When it's beneficial, that'slike okay, they're going,
they're going to tell you allthe bad shit about a person, but
they ain't going to never tellyou the way they looked out.
Well, you needed a place tosleep.
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Well, you needed a place to gotnow, or you needed a couple
dollars because your lightsabout to get turned off or your
cell phone about to get turnedoff.
They ain't gonna tell you thatshit.
Or the way a nigga bought you agoddamn computer, or where your
cell phone got cut off, he putyou in position to help you out.
Or look out for.
Look out for you because basedoff the way they fought with you
because a lot of people don'taren't privy or that they can't
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wrap their mental around thisshit, so fuck with people.
How they fought with you it's.
It's like seasoning you can'tput every type of seasoning on
every type of food, because thatshit gonna fuck up your taste
buds.
Did y'all track that?
Because that's the same way weused to tell people hey, bro,
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shit, if I fuck with a certainperson or I'm I'm dealing with a
certain person, I'm not fin toinclude them into shit.
I know that you got going onand I know you don't fuck with
them, just based off ourconversations.
We don't have or the energy oryou ain't got to tell me why you
don't fuck with them.
You just don't fuck with thembecause, like I tell people all
(07:53):
the time, shit.
They ask me Jack, why do youchoose not to fuck with me?
I said, man, based off theirenergy and just the way they
move.
If they move like chess piecesor checkers and they just
looking for positions ofattention, man, I can't fuck
with them.
(08:14):
I'm sorry y'all, I'm pausingthere.
I'm freestyling this shit andit's just coming straight from
my mental.
I don't have a little notepad Idon't go off of.
This is just the bullshit thatI deal with and I see that's
some fucked up bullshit andpeople don't see that it's
fucked up.
That's like okay, I'll give youanother example.
That's like if a female has anex and she's telling you all the
(08:39):
bad shit about this individual,shawty, why were you fucking
with him if the only thing youcan tell me the bad shit.
It had to be some good shitabout this motherfucker for you
to fuck with him.
You get what I'm saying.
And vice versa.
Man, shit bro, why are you,pillow, talking about you?
(09:01):
You done fucked.
Y'all.
That's sacred.
That ain't nobody else'sbusiness except for y'all.
If y'all fucked, y'all fucked.
You get what I'm saying.
You ain't got to tell the worldhow nasty she is, how goddamn
she gargle your nut, how shelick your ass or play in your
asshole None of that shit.
How she goddamn squirt shit,creamer this, that and the third
(09:23):
, that ain't none of that shit.
How she got down, squirt she acream of this, that and the
third, that ain't none of yourbusiness.
And I'm tired of niggas gettingthat confused with you just
bragging about some shit, bro.
Why we gotta brag about pussy?
Are we 12?
Are we 13?
If you did, you did.
If you didn't, you didn't.
If the motherfucker just foughtwith you on a friend type level
, in a friend type basis, thenthat's what it is.
Don't go lying and saying someshit that ain't even happened,
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because you might get checkedabout the shit and a lot of
people don't understand thatshit and then you get treated
like the cold side of the pillowthat nobody want to touch,
nobody want to fuck with at all,because it's like, yeah, I fuck
with you every once in a while,but I'm gonna fuck with you on
a regular basis.
Or shit, don't invite thatnigga over my house, I don't
fuck with him, or you gettreated that way, but then you
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got down anyway.
But I just can't agree withcertain individuals.
Pillow talking, that shit isnot cool.
I don't understand what insociety pushed everything to
that aspect to where we need totell people everything that goes
(10:31):
on.
Because that shit weird.
Because, hey, if I got apartner to do coke, that man and
it ain't for the outside worldto know that's his habit, that's
his responsibility.
If I got a partner that gotthem just out here fucking
airtime, dick and harry, orthat's his, that's his, that's
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his part, that's his preface.
Or you got a motherfuckinghomeboy that keep getting fucked
over and fucked over and fuckedover and he's, he's confiding,
what the shit and the stressorsthat he's going through, that
ain't your place to tell nobodyelse.
Because what you pillow talkingto a bit I'm sorry, not, not,
(11:15):
not to be disrespectful youpillow talking to a female or
male, they're gonna give you thepussy or the dick either way,
because they that's what theychoose to do.
You just fuck with them on yourpersonal level of fucking with
them.
You don't have to includeeverybody in your situation
unless you trust them, unlessthey got them down there, you
you know you can got them.
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Take some shit to the gravewith them and they don't prove
themselves with you becauseeverybody doesn't have that
proof, everybody doesn't havethat same loyalty within their
souls with them.
Fucking with each other likethat and that shit weird.
Honestly, that shit weird.
I'm.
I'm just saying because ninetimes out of ten, a female
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goddamn gonna fuck with you theway she want to fuck with you.
You ain't gotta goddamn go likeshh.
Let me, let me goddamn saltthis nigga up so she don't
goddamn find him attractive.
She might still fuck with himand not choose to fuck with you.
Just because I can't trust thismotherfucker, that's not
telling my business to anybodyand everybody that's goddamn
gonna listen, or everybody thathe's not around.
(12:20):
So it's.
It's based on how you move andyour and your responsibilities
in life, not nobody else's.
You get what I'm saying Becausea lot of people fail to realize
that bullshit and they don'tknow how to move from that shit
you get me.
It's just a lot and I'm going togo ahead and tell y'all like
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this let's keep it funky.
I can't consider you a friendno more.
If I find out you pillowtalking.
I can't fuck with you on thesame capacity.
If you pillow talking, how do Iconsider you a friend?
You didn't want to protect myneck from these toxic ass
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outside walls, because that'swhat friends do.
Friends look out for individualsthey truly fought with.
They hold genuine.
That is closer, that's close toblood.
If you don't really fought withthem nigga, that's an
acquaintance.
Nigga, that's an op, nigga,that's an enemy how, how can you
(13:27):
sit there and trust them?
You can't, I mean, and that'ssome real shit.
You really can't trust them nomore, because they're gonna move
the way they want to move andspread shit the way they want to
spread.
And you can.
There's nothing you can doabout it.
Yeah, man, because man, I meanpeople move out here.
Wonky and weird man, that's,that's all it has to say about
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it.
But that's like just because amotherfucker hanging around you
24 7 got down kicking a bobowith you, blah, blah, blah.
That motherfucker got down mightbe, that might motherfucker,
might be a whole leech, becauseI'm so used to hanging around
wolves and sharks that we, we,we got down.
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We, we, we consider ourselveswolves because we're like-minded
, we have the same ambitions.
We I'm sorry, let me refrainthat we might not have the same
ambitions, but we still have thesame support in each other that
we're supposed to have, and alot of these motherfuckers will
will be a wolf in sheep'sclothing.
You get what I'm saying.
They will.
They will dress up supposed tohave, and a lot of these
motherfuckers will what will bea wolf in sheep's clothing.
You get what I'm saying.
They will.
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They will dress up like a wolfand a motherfucker, but they
really are sheep.
They want to be herded, theywant to be guided.
Then wolves gonna hunt in thepack with a bunch of wolves and
you're gonna know that energywhen a motherfucker walk in the
room, because most sheep willtuck their legs and got down by
and go the fuck on.
Wolves gonna be like this shit,bro, what you got, what you got
(14:50):
moving, what you got cooking, ohshit, for real shit.
I got this idea.
You want to try this idea.
You want to move this way, bro,I got that shit, I got going on
and they and they push you tobe better, because nobody wants
to hang around a bunch of sheepwhen you're a wolf or you're a
shark and you from it with abunch of fish, nigga, all them
(15:12):
fish, finna, look like food tome.
Because I'm not, I'm not here to.
I want to be surrounded byniggas or individuals, whether
whether it's men or women, andwe can talk about business, or
we can talk about goals, we cantalk about advantages and we can
help each other grow.
Because if we can't help eachother grow, why the fuck are you
(15:33):
around me?
Because I can't hang withmotherfuckers that want to get
told drunk every time I see them.
They want to get goddamn jukedout.
Every time I see them, oh, bro,shit, the first thing they have
out their mouth is bro, shit, Igotta go get me some new pussy.
Is that what your life is basedoff of?
That little Minuscule Aspect oflife Is getting your dick wet.
(15:56):
How Don't you have sustenance,don't you have value?
Like they say, chase your goalsand ambitions now and
everything else will fall inplace.
Maybe, maybe you will find thatwoman that wants to see you
grow, wants to be, see youbecome the best version of you,
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instead of you just worriedabout getting your dick wet, and
that's and that's ridiculous,because a lot of men out here
will pillow talk and pillow talkand pillow talk Just to derail
you from your happiness.
Females will do the same,because that's why they say a
lot of times, birds of a featherflock together.
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Toxic people hang with toxicpeople.
People that are toxic areinvolved with toxic people and
that and that's fucking retardedand remedial for me because I'm
sorry in my life, my 38 years,about to be about to be 39 damn,
I'm about to be 40 motherfucker.
Um, in my, in my mind, in myaspect, to see my partners or my
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homeboys win or doing shit goodfor themselves makes me happy,
makes me feel like shit.
The conversation that we've hadabout our dreams and goals and
ambitions pays off or is payingoff, or it's motivating you to
do something different ormotivating you to gain traction
(17:22):
in another aspect of your life,when you're around certain
individuals that don't want tosee you win, because everybody
in this world does not want tosee you win, because, like we've
said in other other uh podcasts, some of these men or some of
these women out here want to bea crab, a lobster, but really
they imitation crab meat.
They come out phony, they cameoff fake, they come off
(17:43):
fraudulent and their energyisn't genuine with you.
So what do you do?
You treat them accordingly.
You treat them like they are,like they are.
That.
This ain't real, this ain'tfake.
This is phony right here.
And sometimes I'm sorry.
You don't have to addresseverything that happens.
You just know when and where tofuck with them or what capacity
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to fuck with them on, andthat's fucked up.
It's really fucked up becausesometimes you want to give
people the benefit of the doubtand you can't because they, they
, they have already tainted thatthought or that process in your
mind to where you don't want tofuck with them on that level
anymore.
(18:28):
It's like you can't double back.
It's like, okay, you canforgive, but you don't forget.
You come on.
Fucked up to me.
I'm, I might, I might not fuckwith you, no more, I might be
just goddamn.
Two cars passing traffic, Imight see you and you might see
me speak and keep it pushing.
It ain't no, what's up, dog?
I said I'm the worst personthat does this shit because I
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usually make people.
Let it be known if I fuck withthem, I don't fuck with them
Because my facial expressionswear right there in front of you
.
It's like a billboard.
Or I might speak to individualsaround you, but never say two
words to you again, because Iknow that you violated my trust.
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You violated my type offriendship with you
Companionship, relationship,situationship, whatever the fuck
it is Because when I startlooking at you a certain way, I
start treating you a certain way, eventually to the point where
it's like it's like that food inthe lunch line that you look at
and be like you said this shitlasagna, but this shit look
(19:35):
nasty as fuck.
And that's the same way I treatpeople.
It's like, yeah, I know whatyou say, you are, but you, you
coming off something totallydifferent.
It's like, but people say, oh,you're supposed to forgive and
forget the fuck.
There's no way in human naturethat we forget that easy.
(19:55):
We try to make people look atus in a different light.
We attempt to, but it's hard asfuck.
Even when you fucked up, youeat that shit, you own that shit
and you try to show themsomething different.
And it's like it takes morework.
That's like I'm going to keepit funky with you.
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That's like if somebody sayssomething about me and I tell
them like this, I believewhatever the fuck they said.
Because I'm not here to argueor change your mental about
whatever they say or the way totreat you differently, because
now you have what their thought,what they to tell you, or their
their version of me to.
(20:40):
Well, how can I put it?
They wanted to you to heartheir version of me, no matter
whether it's real or fake, nomatter whether it's lies or
anything.
They just want you to believethat.
So I tell them now shit, heybelieve whatever that
motherfucker said to you.
Because I'm not here to debatethat, because if you truly fuck
with me, you see how I operate,you see how I move and all of
(21:01):
that shit might not be true, butyou so blindside about what
this person's telling you.
Hey, you just go off whateverthe fuck they say, because, like
my mom used to tell me when Iwas growing up, you only bet,
you believe only half.
You only believe half of whatyou see and none of what you
hear, unless you have solidifiedproof in front of you saying
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this is this individual, this isbecause that's like okay, I'll
give you another perfect example.
That's like you see conceptlike text messages.
Text messages can be construedin so many different ways, so
many.
Because, like, like, I tellpeople in the heartbeat you can
read my shit and if I don't feellike arguing with you, I just
short talk you or I'll get mypoint out and I'll let you talk
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to yourself.
You can only, you can only gointo so much depth through a
text message because I'll goahead and keep it funky with you
.
Shit, I had a guy.
I saw somebody text me acertain way and I picked up that
phone and called him hey, bro,what type of shit you want?
(22:08):
Oh, bro, I didn't mean it likethat.
Bro.
You mean, hey, the next timebefore you goddamn think about
sending that message, read thatshit before you press send,
because your energy can bemisconstrued through a text.
And that's what I wish a lot ofpeople would go back to.
Because, man, hey, a phone calltakes two seconds, a text
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message can be misconstrued orunderstood so many different
ways that you did not mean Atext message might have y'all
beefing.
And you might not even mean itlike that, because I guess I'm
the old type of generation yousay some bullshit through a text
.
I might have to call you, Imight have to say something to
(22:52):
you.
I might have to say somethingto you.
That's like I've realizedcertain lingo and certain
phrases that I had growing up.
This new generation doesn'tmean the same.
That's like, man, we having adisagreement and you tell me hey
, bro, I just want to pull up onyou and see you face to face.
To me that's fighting terms.
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Hey, we about to get dusty, getdusty.
Hey.
Hey, play some with straightlike.
I'll tell somebody in aheartbeat, straight to their
face play in the street, notwith me, because that that that
shows you what that's, thattells them where you stand,
because they know.
But then they try to retract andthen they come off fucked up,
(23:35):
and now they don't know wherethe hell to go, because now they
didn't got a fuck up taste intheir mouth about you, or you
got a fuck up taste in yourmouth about me, based on a truth
or a lie or a misconception ofthe smallest and minuscule
things that you could possiblyever do to somebody.
But hey, shit is, it is what itis and ain't what it ain't.
(23:59):
But I just want to let y'allhit.
I want to thank y'all forletting me vent to y'all a
little bit on this wonderful,wonderful wednesday afternoon.
Here on four step was only weout?
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