January 27, 2025 • 29 mins
Ever felt like you're battling life with nothing but imitation crab meat and a dream? Join me, Jack as I unravel the raw truth about what it means to be a real hustler. With vivid analogies and personal stories, including my time as a combat veteran, I highlight the difference between those who fake the hustle and those who live it. Hear firsthand how my past trials have molded me and the incredible people who've supported me along the way. This isn't just my story—it's a tribute to authenticity, resilience, and the power of a solid support system.
Struggling to juggle a day job, side gigs, and family? You're not alone. Discover my journey from the confines of a plant job to chasing my passion in videography, all while managing financial hurdles and family demands. Learn about the hustle required to keep moving forward, no matter the setbacks—like building an "oh shit account" to brace for life's curveballs. It's a candid glimpse into the relentless drive needed to provide for my family and set a positive example for my kids, even when the odds seem stacked against me.
Imagine choosing between productivity and crime—what's your move? This episode pushes you to ponder our paths and their impact on ourselves and our communities. We explore the dual nature of people and the potential each choice has to tip the scales. I share insights on the struggles and lessons from my own life, reminding you that true hustlers never stop learning. This is a journey of self-improvement, resilience, and the relentless pursuit of better choices. Tune in, and let's get real about what it takes to hustle.
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Yeah, nigga, fuck everybody.
Fuck everything.
Nigga, give money.
Nigga, run that shit up.
Nigga.
Run that shit all the way upnigga till you can't run it no
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more.
To fuck them all.
Nigga, all the way up nigga, upup nigga till the motherfucking
ceiling.
Nigga, fuck these bitches, fuckthese niggas too.
Fuck them all.
You know what I mean?
I mean this shit For real, forreal.
Nigga, straight up.
Ay Yo, what's happening?
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It's 4 Stepfas Only and we'reback.
Hey, this Jack Solo Dolo and Ijust gotta come back.
You know, step back up to themic a little bit, but sometimes
you gotta hear some Impactfulshit To tell you Fuck everybody,
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fuck their opinions, becausepeople are gonna have opinions
like assholes.
Shit to tell you Fuck everybody, fuck their opinions, because
people are going to haveopinions like assholes and they
never are going to understandwhat it takes to be at a certain
point in your life.
They don't understand.
People have ups and downs,trials and tribulations.
They just want to see the glitzand glamour.
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They want to see you shine likehollywood, but then they want
to talk shit behind your back.
Sometimes it ain't even themotherfucker that you think is
the most, is the motherfuckerthat crossed the room that's
hating on you.
It's the motherfuckers that arestanding right beside you, the
ones you call those friends, theones those you call those
enemies.
Man, that ain't no target tonobody, it's just a um, just a
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point to be proven.
But that's like what we talkedabout today imitation crab meat
and real and real hustlers.
A lot of y'all don't understandwhat I mean by, why the
comparison comes into part.
But those real hustlers andmotivators and real shakers out
there understand where the fuckI'm coming from, because I mean
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shit.
I've had my cousins tell meshout out to T-Main, shout out
to Extra Round, shout out toSniper, shout out to my big bro
Bu.
Hey, big bro, shit, you knowwhere we came from.
But a lot of y'all don'tunderstand what it takes to be a
real hustler.
It ain't about you, just youknow, you pushing this, pushing
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that, you selling this, sellingthat Real hustlers get up every
fucking day and grind for thatextra mile, grind for that extra
inch, just for a little bit ofdaylight, shit.
Oh, I can't forget Al Bisham,can't forget Dean and shit.
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Free all the members and shittill we see each other again.
Shit, alpo Driecus Rucker.
But a lot of y'all don'tunderstand why the fuck we say
that?
Because some people give offthe image that they are hustlers
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, that they are grinders.
I mean, those are the ones thatreally flaunt because, as Frank
Lucas said, it best thequietest one in the room I'm
sorry, I said that, fucked up,it's the loudest one in the room
, that's the weakest and themotherfucker that's putting on
the loudest in the room sometimeain't no real hustler.
That's what we call imitationcrab meat.
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It's the motherfucker that'ssitting in the back just
studying, the one that's justlearning more.
You know, being around thosewho motivate them.
Um, but a lot of people willnever seem to understand what it
takes to be a true hustler.
Um, because if y'all didn't knowshit, I've done a lot in my
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lifetime Combat vet Navy, 13years, traveled around the world
, did different certain things.
I think it's 13 total years,but I remember a couple years
ago, which was my hardest timein my life, to where I didn't
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know what the fuck I was goingto do.
I had just quit my job and Ifeel like I had been working and
certain things that I did in mylife I wasn't too proud of.
I still had my kids to feed, Istill had to do this, I still
had to do that.
But anybody who actually knowsme knows me.
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I mean, shout out out my kidsparents.
Um, they actually know mytrials and tribulations.
Um, they understand, if wallscould talk, they would say a lot
.
But to the man that y'all seebefore you now, isn't the man
that I was 10 years ago.
Um, shit hell, I'll take thateven further.
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It wasn't the same that I was10 years ago.
Shit hell, I take that evenfurther.
It wasn't the same man fiveyears ago.
Because when we look at certainthings and certain aspects of
our life, shit, you understand,there's a difference between
what you want to do and what yougot to do.
I remember at one point in timethat this is a little story
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time for y'all, before y'allknow I'm I'm a goofy
motherfucker period.
But shit, it's just a littlestory time just to build up to
where this damn four steppersonly came from.
Because when you step on someshit, you better stand on that
shit.
Um, a couple years ago, shit, Iwasn't working Shit.
I had about 10 grand in my hand, didn't know what the fuck I
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was going to do, but I knew Ididn't want to work at the time.
So I used certain things to mydisposal that I knew how to do
and knew how to wear.
I still had my camera, I stillhad my videography.
So I went real hard on that.
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But at this point in time in mylife, shit, I took a good chunk
of that and shit, I'd be out inthe streets all day.
Like when y'all say y'all outin the streets, y'all just think
y'all partying and shit.
But actual, real, motherfuckinghustlers know when we out in
the streets, we out there tryingto make a dollar, we make
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trying to grow up two penniestogether to make two dollars,
and they don't say that youdon't out there doing shit
illegal, you just trying to pavea way.
Because it don't matter if youcutting grass, it don't matter
if you got them reinstallingsomebody's motor in their car,
swapping them out, it don'tmatter if you got them doing
break exchanges.
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Them the real hustlers, becauseyou can never knock somebody's
hustle.
But back to the story.
Um, I was out here, moving andshaking.
Some nights were longer thanothers some nights.
Shit, I can't even tell you.
I ain't come home until like 4o'clock in the morning just
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because I didn't know how toface the person that was at home
with me because of the shit Iwas out there doing, because I
knew this is she wouldn't be tooproud of me.
But with that being said, billswere still being paid, money
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was still being spent, I wasstill spending time with my kids
, still seeing my kids, but Ihad to do what I had to do.
At one point in time she pulledme to the side and said you need
to figure this shit the fuckout.
You need to get your head outof clouds and honestly sit your
ass down and actually think.
Can you sit back and expect thesame?
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You know these same tacticsfrom your children.
Could you explain to what yourchildren are doing right now and
nowadays and could you tellthem straight to their face what
their dad is out here doing?
Shit, not really so shit.
I quit what I was doing and Istarted trying to.
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You know, just go get me a job,do shit the right way, the nine
to five way, which I've neverreally been fond of, because
it's just controlled slavery.
They give you enough money tocome back the next next day, but
in retrospect you sit back andyou listen to a lot of shit.
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So I got this job.
Man, I'm driving to Atlanta,I'm wearing suits, I'm going
door to doors, I'm being afucking customer service person.
That shit was ass.
I swear to God, that shit wasfucking ass.
I remember and she jokes withme to this day, which I'm going
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to go ahead and tell y'all.
That's my ex-wife who jokeswith me to this day exactly
about how I was busting my ass.
Monday through Friday, Iwouldn't get home until after 11
pm.
I leave out at nine in themorning, won't get back home
until 11 pm At night.
That motherfucker Clown me, butin a what the fuck Type matter,
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because y'all got to understandCertain people are allowed To
clown you In certain lights andcertain people Aren't, because
they come, the one, the onesthat are good, they don't come
from A malicious place, they tryto make light of the situations
that you're going through.
So, boom shit, she came at metalking about something.
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What the fuck is this type ofshit?
You on, you brought home a $23check.
Yeah, she said so.
Where the other $11.50?
.
I said, well, I had to split itwith my coworker cause he ain't
had gas to get home and I I hada little bit of gas.
She said so what you, finna, do?
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I said I'm, finna, got down,keep doing this shit.
I said because it taught me alot.
It taught me drive, it taughtme motivation.
It told me this some bullshit.
But this told me hey,regardless of how tough shit get
, how big shit get, there'salways a way.
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So next thing I know I foundout that shit.
I got another job interview.
I'm gonna go work at a plant.
Man, I ain't never worked at aplant A day in my life, never.
This is my first time working ata plant, and I think I was 32
but I was making decent.
I was back making an hourlywage To where I had a guaranteed
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paycheck coming in.
But then that shit.
What you gotta realize is I wasstill doing my videography on
the side.
I'm still grinding that.
So I'm talking is I'm stilldoing my videography on the side
, I'm still grinding that.
So I'm talking about I'm doingany gig, every gig that I could
possibly get to pave a way.
So, boom, shit starts to startlooking up.
But then shit started lookingtough too, because I wasn't
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making the funds that I wasmaking before because I was
still on child support.
So, boom, that fucked up checkhit.
I was like what the fuck am Igoing to do with this?
So, man, I had some shit aroundthe house.
Man, I started selling shitJust to make sure rent was paid,
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making sure we had food on thetable Right, because at this
time I got a newborn dude, notalone from my other kids.
I still, hey, daddy has to bedaddy, regardless of what light
he's in.
Daddy still has to be king.
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Daddy still has to show a goodexample.
Daddy still has to do the shitthat daddies have to do.
Daddy still has to do the shitthat daddies have to do,
regardless of what daddy has todo.
On the back end and the shitthat everybody don't get to see
the quiet times, the doubtinghimself, the wish everything
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would end, the times daddy justwants to break down and fucking
cry.
Sometimes we can't, but y'allgot to understand.
But that's where a real hustlercomes into play.
Shit, ain't that little boy.
Shit Ain't that goddamn shit.
I just want a goddamn party.
Nah, shit, I ain't got time todo that.
I'm trying to goddamn buildthis shit back up.
So boom, everything, everything.
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So you're doing what you got todo to survive.
You're not doing what you gotto do to survive.
You're not doing what you wantto do to survive, you're doing
what you got to do to survive.
There's a big difference.
Little boys do what they want.
Men do what they can't have todo.
You got to understand that.
But then shit I'm talking about, I'm selling the computer I had
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, I'm doing this, I'm doing that.
That's why I tell my kids nowsometimes you got to have that
fuck up money.
What is it?
That old shit account?
It's not fuck up money, it'sold shit.
Fuck up money is when you fuckup a bag and you just flip that
shit back the next day.
That old shit money is whensome shit pop off that you
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weren't expecting A bag and youjust flip that shit back the
next day.
That old shit money Is whensome shit pop off that you
weren't expecting it, likelights get cut off, phone bill
get cut off and you got to reachin that pocket that old shit
account and shit that you wassaving for.
You got to spend it to God.
Make sure you stay afloat.
Make sure y'all still able toeat ramen noodles and vinyls and
shit.
You stay afloat.
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Make sure y'all still able toeat ramen noodles and beanies
and shit.
But like.
This is the difference though.
So, boom, I got to this plant.
I was there about a year.
That money wasn't good enoughfor me.
I was working plastics.
It's hot as fuck.
I'm driving an hour to work.
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I'm working overnight again.
Boom, I left that plant to goto another plant when I'm making
a little bit more money.
Alright, now I'm an equipmentoperator, but I'm in a plastics
plant.
I'm a machinist.
So, boom, you know, I doneknocked up a couple notches.
Man, this shit, hot the fuck inthere, bitch, I'm coming home
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dirty, I'm coming home exhausted, I'm coming home top, but guess
what?
That is still gotta do, thishustler still gotta be a hustler
.
I'm still lining up gigs.
Boom, this ain't enough.
So I get a god damn propositionfrom another plant.
Oh, this guy, I know Shit, Ineed you.
Come over here and be asuperman, hey.
So I'm like shit, how much theypaying.
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Boom, oh shit, for real.
Man, I went over though I wasmaking 26 an hour.
No, I don't, I take that back.
I was making 23 an hour, remindyou, I'm just trying to get
back in my groove, man, to whereI would be, you know, be afloat
, man, when I got over there.
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When they say, the grass ain'talways greener than what they
promised you, man, I'm overthere being pimped like a hoe on
Broad Street.
I'm doing this job, that job,this job, that job Ain't no
organization, this shit, afucking hot mess.
So I started looking for jobs.
I go back to the only careerthat I'm good at, but, remind
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you, I'm still, I'm still ahustler, I'm still gonna find a
way.
So, boom, I was like, man, Igotta get this job.
They end up getting me a joball the way out in Sandy Springs
.
Now I'm driving an hour, hour 10, hour 20, and that's without
traffic doing front work.
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I'm talking about like hey,that's what, almost three hours
out of my day.
God forbid, it had traffic on85.
You ain't got no, boom, you on285.
God forbid, it had traffic on85.
Gang got down.
Boom you on 285.
So, boom, I'm trying to figureout what the fuck I got going on
.
So, boom, next thing, I knowI'm there six months.
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No, the first day of the job.
Man, these motherfuckers don'tknow that I'm coming, they ain't
got no uniforms for me.
I'm showing up in intact pantsand a black shirt and some boots
.
Now, sometimes you gotta takethem risks To reap the reward.
So I'm back on night shift.
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I'm doing eight hours a day.
I'm back feeling a little bitbetter, like a human being.
Next thing, I know I'm dealingwith some shitty ass management.
The grass ain't always greeneron the other side.
I'm going to tell y'all Shit.
They damn near tried to fire memy first fucking 30 days
telling me I don't fit with therest of the team.
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Nah, you right, I don't fit.
I'm nothing like thesemotherfuckers.
I can tell pretenders versusgenuine people.
I end up going to my managerhey man, I'm going to go ahead
and school you on this.
Either I get transferred tothis other place or I'm gonna
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quit.
I said because, number one, Idon't fit in here.
I said the type of mind framethat y'all got here is not
applicable to my lifestyle andwhat I've been trained and what
I've been trying to do.
I'm not taught to be a fuckingpuppet.
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I've always been a leader.
I guess that comes from my momteaching me hey, no matter who's
standing in front of you.
You stand up for what youbelieve in, you stand up for
what you got to do.
So, boom, I go for theinterview.
I start recognizing people onthe panel.
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I'm like, oh shit, here we go.
So I get to this new spot.
Next thing I know I've beenthere three years.
I done got three, four, two,three, four, five promotions in
three years.
That's a real hustler mentality.
I'm trying to get more and morethe more out of you that I
could possibly get To where itgrows me as an individual, not
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for a company, but as anindividual.
So sometimes, yeah, the grassain't always greener, but
sometimes you got to make it outto what you got to make it.
Sometimes you got to be yourown puppet master and play with
your own strings so you can getto what you got to make it.
Sometimes you got to be yourown puppet master and play with
your own strings so you can getto where you got to go.
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So, with that being said, um,that's why, shit, like I was
telling somebody else, they wereasking me why I started a
podcast in the first place.
I was at a dark spot in my life,real, real dark.
I was about to have shouldersurgery.
Shit got dark.
Shit got real dark and shit.
A couple of things went throughmy head, but because of the
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shit I had going on, shit.
So, boom, I thought, hey, shit,maybe it wouldn't be too bad
not to wake up on this table.
But then next thing I know,after I said that, five minutes
later my kids come walking in ZyFat, tink, dude, and they let
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me and that was my sign sayingman, I can't quit, the fuck is
wrong with me.
Hell, no, I can't quit becausey'all gotta understand shit.
Them little motherfuckers iswho I wake up for every
motherfucking day.
When I don't have the energy toget up out of bed myself, they
make sure I get up to make.
They make sure they call me andtalk about some.
Daddy, I appreciate you, daddy,I love you.
Daddy, thank you for all youdid for me, thank you, the
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little shit, because, like Itell them all the time when I'm
gone, you are my legacy, thethings I'm to have to show you
to, where you don't have to yellor beg nobody for no goddamn
money or be like, hey, I'mfucked up, you make your own way
.
That's what hustlers do.
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We ain't these imitation crabmeat ass niggas out here.
The fuck, I ain't no goddamnflaker, no flunker.
I ain't out here doing this,doing that just to make
everybody else to think I'm amotherfucking hustler.
No, I do that shit for my kids.
I do that shit for my familybecause what you got to
understand is sometimes it ain'tabout me, it's about them how I
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gotta get up, how I gottaprovide for them.
So sometimes when you hear thatfuck everybody, fuck everything,
that ain't no derogatory, thatmeans hey, fuck everybody's
opinion, fuck everybody'sthoughts, fuck everybody else
what they feel about you.
So sometimes you got to makeyour own way.
Sometimes it is, you got tostand on them too.
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You got to stand on your pivotto where these niggas understand
who the fuck you really are.
Because a lot of time peopleget a misconception of what they
hear from other motherfuckersthat don't even have a pot of
piss in or a leg to stand on andthey looking like Lieutenant
Dan out this bitch.
You cannot tell an aunt how tobe an aunt if you never walked
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in that man's shoes.
So you cannot tell me how to bea fucking man or go to my
trials and tribulations withoutbeing able to walk through my
shoes, because half of thesemotherfuckers have been and
killed theyself three times overby this time in their life.
Because a lot of motherfuckersthat goddamn fragile like
motherfucking goddamn glass,fragile like paper, because they
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don't know how to revamp, theydon't know how to get that shit
out the mud, they don't know howto wash that shit off, they
don't know how to dust that shitoff, because they don't
understand.
Oh shit, what you got moving,what you got, man, shit.
Who.
I will sell water to a?
Well, I will sell air to you.
I will tell you hey, taste theL.
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Don't that shit taste likegrapes?
Don't that shit taste likewatermelon?
Don't that shit taste likemango?
Man, I'm always looking toelevate.
I don't care who I'm learningfrom.
I don't care if I'm learningfrom my 18-year-old all the way
down to my five-year-old.
I'm learning from themotherfuckers.
I can learn shit from a junkie.
I don't give a fuck.
Because when the day I stoplearning is the day you put me
in a pine box.
That's what a real hustler is.
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Because I sat back and Ilistened to this little young
boy last year no cap, no kizzy.
He asked me, could he cut hisgrass?
I was just fucking with himbecause the little young man had
a little ambition.
He wanted something out of life.
Little young man had a littleambition.
He wanted something out of life.
He was getting out his ass, offhis ass instead of in front of
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a game in the house, wanting tomake something of himself.
So I was like shit, hell, yeah.
When that motherfucker told meit was 70 dollars.
I was like 70 dollars to cut mygrass.
I said so.
I started and this only thinghe doing is weed, whacking,
edging and cutting no extras.
So next, I know I threw him,you know, I threw him 80.
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So I'm thinking every two weeks, you, you cut my grass for 80,
that's, that's 160 a month.
I said so.
I asked a young man how many,how many yards do you cut?
He said, oh, I cut about, youknow about 10 in a weekend.
I said, wait a minute, youcutting 10 yards a weekend.
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I said, yeah, ten at eightydollars a pop.
You making eight hundreddollars?
He said yeah, but yeah.
Then I got my little friend, he, he, um, he helped me.
What this this guy doing?
13 year old boy, now has anemployee, what of?
What the fuck is going on.
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So I could nothing, do nothingbut salute that young man
because I I admired his dreamsand ambitions when it came to
this shit, because that's a,that's a true hustle.
Next thing, I know I had my son.
Hey, why don't you got down?
You know, learn something fromthat little boy.
Next thing, you know, my sonstarted hanging with him.
My son started learning from.
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Sometimes it's not about whatyou do or what you can learn
from a book, sometimes it's it'sabout chess.
Sometimes you got to putanother piece beside another
piece beside another piece thatare all in the same correlation
so you can learn from them andso you can grow from them,
because you ain't gonna learneverything from your own
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experiences.
Sometimes you got to surroundyourself by hustlers, motivators
, shakers instead of bum assniggas just and and and to.
To put it in retrospect, whenyou talking about imitation crab
, meat ass nigga to.
When you talking about imitationcrab, that's the motherfuckers
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that em that play like.
They all that but never come upwith an idea they own, never
have the motivation themselvesto do whatever.
They just want to do the sameshit somebody else doing instead
of creating their own path.
Or they try to, they try tobutter themselves to everybody
in a room to make you feel likethey are that person when, true
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enough, they are truly imitationcrab meat.
They ain't no cream crab, theyain't no lobster, they ain't no
blue.
Honest to god, they a bust downwig on a mannequin.
That being said, shit, a lot ofthese motherfuckers that are
imitation crab meat are alwaysall over around you.
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They just trying to wait foryour opportunity to blow to
where that.
You can goddamn listen to whatthey got going on or be a part
of what we call, like my dadused to tell me, like what we
used to call them was leeches.
You don't come up with your ownideas.
You don't come up with your ownmotivation.
It's like shit.
Sometimes it takes energy off ahustler to not motivate and
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it's like man, this shitdraining man, this shit.
Too much work to me to sit hereand motivate another nigga to
do what I want to do, to where Iwant to be, to where they they
trying to learn the ins and outs, the chess pieces when they
still playing chuckles, becauseI'll give y'all another story.
I mean shit.
I was paying child support, Iwas paying a hefty amount and
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this dude I was friends with wasso-called friends with.
Come to find out, man, thatnigga was a hater.
I remember this motherfuckertold me one day.
I said, shit, I was always hadhouse having a couple beers.
You know, just back in chilling, I was like shit, man, I'm only
, I ain't gonna have too muchmore.
I'm about to go home, come outto take a nap so I can go around
uber.
Oh, nigga you a taxi driver,nigga you a taxi driver.
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I was like, no, I'm a uberdriver, there's a difference.
Oh, when you get you, when youget to a certain point, bro,
shit, I'm gonna call you and letyou come pick me up, because
you a taxi driver, nigga you,I'm gonna buy you one of them
hats.
I said, okay, let me go aheadand preschool you on something
young fella.
I said would you rather me doinguber as something productive or
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you want to sit over there andkeep hating or being
disrespectful?
I said because I could be outhere doing some bullshit or on
some fuck shit and, goddamn,peeping out your house and make
a phone call to have somebodycome and got a crackhead from
around the way.
Pay him, goddamn, fifty dollarsand a double out to come, kick
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in your front door then bring meeverything he got from your
house.
I said, damn, ask him what hewant to charge for certain x, y
and z's.
So would you rather me be thattaxi driver, nigga, or would you
rather me be a goddamnmotherfucker that's kicking in
your front door?
You make the opportunity, youmake the choice before you out
here, disrespecting another man.
Remember there's two sides of astory with a man the good side
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and that demon in him.
Because a lot of times peopledon't understand.
It ain't the person I don'ttrust, it's the demon inside
them I don't trust Becauseeverybody can't walk with the
devil in the pale moonlight,because sometimes you got to get
out here and get your handsdirty and niggas don't
understand that.
Niggas don't learn to underrespect that.
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So I want to thank y'all forlistening to me on.
Four Step is on and I'm out.
Peace.
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Yeah, nigga, fuck everybody.
Fuck everything.
Nigga, give money.
Nigga, run that shit up.
Nigga.
Run that shit all the way upnigga till you can't run it no
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more.
To fuck them all.
Nigga, all the way up nigga, upup nigga till the motherfucking
ceiling.
Nigga, fuck these bitches, fuckthese niggas too.
Fuck them all.
You know what I mean?
I mean this shit For real, forreal.
Nigga, straight up.
Ay Yo, what's happening?
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It's 4 Stepfas Only and we'reback.
Hey, this Jack Solo Dolo and Ijust gotta come back.
You know, step back up to themic a little bit, but sometimes
you gotta hear some Impactfulshit To tell you Fuck everybody,
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fuck their opinions, becausepeople are gonna have opinions
like assholes.
Shit to tell you Fuck everybody, fuck their opinions, because
people are going to haveopinions like assholes and they
never are going to understandwhat it takes to be at a certain
point in your life.
They don't understand.
People have ups and downs,trials and tribulations.
They just want to see the glitzand glamour.
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They want to see you shine likehollywood, but then they want
to talk shit behind your back.
Sometimes it ain't even themotherfucker that you think is
the most, is the motherfuckerthat crossed the room that's
hating on you.
It's the motherfuckers that arestanding right beside you, the
ones you call those friends, theones those you call those
enemies.
Man, that ain't no target tonobody, it's just a um, just a
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point to be proven.
But that's like what we talkedabout today imitation crab meat
and real and real hustlers.
A lot of y'all don't understandwhat I mean by, why the
comparison comes into part.
But those real hustlers andmotivators and real shakers out
there understand where the fuckI'm coming from, because I mean
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shit.
I've had my cousins tell meshout out to T-Main, shout out
to Extra Round, shout out toSniper, shout out to my big bro
Bu.
Hey, big bro, shit, you knowwhere we came from.
But a lot of y'all don'tunderstand what it takes to be a
real hustler.
It ain't about you, just youknow, you pushing this, pushing
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that, you selling this, sellingthat Real hustlers get up every
fucking day and grind for thatextra mile, grind for that extra
inch, just for a little bit ofdaylight, shit.
Oh, I can't forget Al Bisham,can't forget Dean and shit.
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Free all the members and shittill we see each other again.
Shit, alpo Driecus Rucker.
But a lot of y'all don'tunderstand why the fuck we say
that?
Because some people give offthe image that they are hustlers
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, that they are grinders.
I mean, those are the ones thatreally flaunt because, as Frank
Lucas said, it best thequietest one in the room I'm
sorry, I said that, fucked up,it's the loudest one in the room
, that's the weakest and themotherfucker that's putting on
the loudest in the room sometimeain't no real hustler.
That's what we call imitationcrab meat.
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It's the motherfucker that'ssitting in the back just
studying, the one that's justlearning more.
You know, being around thosewho motivate them.
Um, but a lot of people willnever seem to understand what it
takes to be a true hustler.
Um, because if y'all didn't knowshit, I've done a lot in my
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lifetime Combat vet Navy, 13years, traveled around the world
, did different certain things.
I think it's 13 total years,but I remember a couple years
ago, which was my hardest timein my life, to where I didn't
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know what the fuck I was goingto do.
I had just quit my job and Ifeel like I had been working and
certain things that I did in mylife I wasn't too proud of.
I still had my kids to feed, Istill had to do this, I still
had to do that.
But anybody who actually knowsme knows me.
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I mean, shout out out my kidsparents.
Um, they actually know mytrials and tribulations.
Um, they understand, if wallscould talk, they would say a lot
.
But to the man that y'all seebefore you now, isn't the man
that I was 10 years ago.
Um, shit hell, I'll take thateven further.
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It wasn't the same that I was10 years ago.
Shit hell, I take that evenfurther.
It wasn't the same man fiveyears ago.
Because when we look at certainthings and certain aspects of
our life, shit, you understand,there's a difference between
what you want to do and what yougot to do.
I remember at one point in timethat this is a little story
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time for y'all, before y'allknow I'm I'm a goofy
motherfucker period.
But shit, it's just a littlestory time just to build up to
where this damn four steppersonly came from.
Because when you step on someshit, you better stand on that
shit.
Um, a couple years ago, shit, Iwasn't working Shit.
I had about 10 grand in my hand, didn't know what the fuck I
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was going to do, but I knew Ididn't want to work at the time.
So I used certain things to mydisposal that I knew how to do
and knew how to wear.
I still had my camera, I stillhad my videography.
So I went real hard on that.
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But at this point in time in mylife, shit, I took a good chunk
of that and shit, I'd be out inthe streets all day.
Like when y'all say y'all outin the streets, y'all just think
y'all partying and shit.
But actual, real, motherfuckinghustlers know when we out in
the streets, we out there tryingto make a dollar, we make
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trying to grow up two penniestogether to make two dollars,
and they don't say that youdon't out there doing shit
illegal, you just trying to pavea way.
Because it don't matter if youcutting grass, it don't matter
if you got them reinstallingsomebody's motor in their car,
swapping them out, it don'tmatter if you got them doing
break exchanges.
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Them the real hustlers, becauseyou can never knock somebody's
hustle.
But back to the story.
Um, I was out here, moving andshaking.
Some nights were longer thanothers some nights.
Shit, I can't even tell you.
I ain't come home until like 4o'clock in the morning just
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because I didn't know how toface the person that was at home
with me because of the shit Iwas out there doing, because I
knew this is she wouldn't be tooproud of me.
But with that being said, billswere still being paid, money
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was still being spent, I wasstill spending time with my kids
, still seeing my kids, but Ihad to do what I had to do.
At one point in time she pulledme to the side and said you need
to figure this shit the fuckout.
You need to get your head outof clouds and honestly sit your
ass down and actually think.
Can you sit back and expect thesame?
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You know these same tacticsfrom your children.
Could you explain to what yourchildren are doing right now and
nowadays and could you tellthem straight to their face what
their dad is out here doing?
Shit, not really so shit.
I quit what I was doing and Istarted trying to.
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You know, just go get me a job,do shit the right way, the nine
to five way, which I've neverreally been fond of, because
it's just controlled slavery.
They give you enough money tocome back the next next day, but
in retrospect you sit back andyou listen to a lot of shit.
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So I got this job.
Man, I'm driving to Atlanta,I'm wearing suits, I'm going
door to doors, I'm being afucking customer service person.
That shit was ass.
I swear to God, that shit wasfucking ass.
I remember and she jokes withme to this day, which I'm going
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to go ahead and tell y'all.
That's my ex-wife who jokeswith me to this day exactly
about how I was busting my ass.
Monday through Friday, Iwouldn't get home until after 11
pm.
I leave out at nine in themorning, won't get back home
until 11 pm At night.
That motherfucker Clown me, butin a what the fuck Type matter,
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because y'all got to understandCertain people are allowed To
clown you In certain lights andcertain people Aren't, because
they come, the one, the onesthat are good, they don't come
from A malicious place, they tryto make light of the situations
that you're going through.
So, boom shit, she came at metalking about something.
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What the fuck is this type ofshit?
You on, you brought home a $23check.
Yeah, she said so.
Where the other $11.50?
.
I said, well, I had to split itwith my coworker cause he ain't
had gas to get home and I I hada little bit of gas.
She said so what you, finna, do?
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I said I'm, finna, got down,keep doing this shit.
I said because it taught me alot.
It taught me drive, it taughtme motivation.
It told me this some bullshit.
But this told me hey,regardless of how tough shit get
, how big shit get, there'salways a way.
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So next thing I know I foundout that shit.
I got another job interview.
I'm gonna go work at a plant.
Man, I ain't never worked at aplant A day in my life, never.
This is my first time working ata plant, and I think I was 32
but I was making decent.
I was back making an hourlywage To where I had a guaranteed
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paycheck coming in.
But then that shit.
What you gotta realize is I wasstill doing my videography on
the side.
I'm still grinding that.
So I'm talking is I'm stilldoing my videography on the side
, I'm still grinding that.
So I'm talking about I'm doingany gig, every gig that I could
possibly get to pave a way.
So, boom, shit starts to startlooking up.
But then shit started lookingtough too, because I wasn't
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making the funds that I wasmaking before because I was
still on child support.
So, boom, that fucked up checkhit.
I was like what the fuck am Igoing to do with this?
So, man, I had some shit aroundthe house.
Man, I started selling shitJust to make sure rent was paid,
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making sure we had food on thetable Right, because at this
time I got a newborn dude, notalone from my other kids.
I still, hey, daddy has to bedaddy, regardless of what light
he's in.
Daddy still has to be king.
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Daddy still has to show a goodexample.
Daddy still has to do the shitthat daddies have to do.
Daddy still has to do the shitthat daddies have to do,
regardless of what daddy has todo.
On the back end and the shitthat everybody don't get to see
the quiet times, the doubtinghimself, the wish everything
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would end, the times daddy justwants to break down and fucking
cry.
Sometimes we can't, but y'allgot to understand.
But that's where a real hustlercomes into play.
Shit, ain't that little boy.
Shit Ain't that goddamn shit.
I just want a goddamn party.
Nah, shit, I ain't got time todo that.
I'm trying to goddamn buildthis shit back up.
So boom, everything, everything.
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So you're doing what you got todo to survive.
You're not doing what you gotto do to survive.
You're not doing what you wantto do to survive, you're doing
what you got to do to survive.
There's a big difference.
Little boys do what they want.
Men do what they can't have todo.
You got to understand that.
But then shit I'm talking about, I'm selling the computer I had
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, I'm doing this, I'm doing that.
That's why I tell my kids nowsometimes you got to have that
fuck up money.
What is it?
That old shit account?
It's not fuck up money, it'sold shit.
Fuck up money is when you fuckup a bag and you just flip that
shit back the next day.
That old shit money is whensome shit pop off that you
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weren't expecting A bag and youjust flip that shit back the
next day.
That old shit money Is whensome shit pop off that you
weren't expecting it, likelights get cut off, phone bill
get cut off and you got to reachin that pocket that old shit
account and shit that you wassaving for.
You got to spend it to God.
Make sure you stay afloat.
Make sure y'all still able toeat ramen noodles and vinyls and
shit.
You stay afloat.
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Make sure y'all still able toeat ramen noodles and beanies
and shit.
But like.
This is the difference though.
So, boom, I got to this plant.
I was there about a year.
That money wasn't good enoughfor me.
I was working plastics.
It's hot as fuck.
I'm driving an hour to work.
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I'm working overnight again.
Boom, I left that plant to goto another plant when I'm making
a little bit more money.
Alright, now I'm an equipmentoperator, but I'm in a plastics
plant.
I'm a machinist.
So, boom, you know, I doneknocked up a couple notches.
Man, this shit, hot the fuck inthere, bitch, I'm coming home
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dirty, I'm coming home exhausted, I'm coming home top, but guess
what?
That is still gotta do, thishustler still gotta be a hustler
.
I'm still lining up gigs.
Boom, this ain't enough.
So I get a god damn propositionfrom another plant.
Oh, this guy, I know Shit, Ineed you.
Come over here and be asuperman, hey.
So I'm like shit, how much theypaying.
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Boom, oh shit, for real.
Man, I went over though I wasmaking 26 an hour.
No, I don't, I take that back.
I was making 23 an hour, remindyou, I'm just trying to get
back in my groove, man, to whereI would be, you know, be afloat
, man, when I got over there.
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When they say, the grass ain'talways greener than what they
promised you, man, I'm overthere being pimped like a hoe on
Broad Street.
I'm doing this job, that job,this job, that job Ain't no
organization, this shit, afucking hot mess.
So I started looking for jobs.
I go back to the only careerthat I'm good at, but, remind
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you, I'm still, I'm still ahustler, I'm still gonna find a
way.
So, boom, I was like, man, Igotta get this job.
They end up getting me a joball the way out in Sandy Springs
.
Now I'm driving an hour, hour 10, hour 20, and that's without
traffic doing front work.
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I'm talking about like hey,that's what, almost three hours
out of my day.
God forbid, it had traffic on85.
You ain't got no, boom, you on285.
God forbid, it had traffic on85.
Gang got down.
Boom you on 285.
So, boom, I'm trying to figureout what the fuck I got going on
.
So, boom, next thing, I knowI'm there six months.
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No, the first day of the job.
Man, these motherfuckers don'tknow that I'm coming, they ain't
got no uniforms for me.
I'm showing up in intact pantsand a black shirt and some boots
.
Now, sometimes you gotta takethem risks To reap the reward.
So I'm back on night shift.
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I'm doing eight hours a day.
I'm back feeling a little bitbetter, like a human being.
Next thing, I know I'm dealingwith some shitty ass management.
The grass ain't always greeneron the other side.
I'm going to tell y'all Shit.
They damn near tried to fire memy first fucking 30 days
telling me I don't fit with therest of the team.
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Nah, you right, I don't fit.
I'm nothing like thesemotherfuckers.
I can tell pretenders versusgenuine people.
I end up going to my managerhey man, I'm going to go ahead
and school you on this.
Either I get transferred tothis other place or I'm gonna
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quit.
I said because, number one, Idon't fit in here.
I said the type of mind framethat y'all got here is not
applicable to my lifestyle andwhat I've been trained and what
I've been trying to do.
I'm not taught to be a fuckingpuppet.
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I've always been a leader.
I guess that comes from my momteaching me hey, no matter who's
standing in front of you.
You stand up for what youbelieve in, you stand up for
what you got to do.
So, boom, I go for theinterview.
I start recognizing people onthe panel.
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I'm like, oh shit, here we go.
So I get to this new spot.
Next thing I know I've beenthere three years.
I done got three, four, two,three, four, five promotions in
three years.
That's a real hustler mentality.
I'm trying to get more and morethe more out of you that I
could possibly get To where itgrows me as an individual, not
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for a company, but as anindividual.
So sometimes, yeah, the grassain't always greener, but
sometimes you got to make it outto what you got to make it.
Sometimes you got to be yourown puppet master and play with
your own strings so you can getto what you got to make it.
Sometimes you got to be yourown puppet master and play with
your own strings so you can getto where you got to go.
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So, with that being said, um,that's why, shit, like I was
telling somebody else, they wereasking me why I started a
podcast in the first place.
I was at a dark spot in my life,real, real dark.
I was about to have shouldersurgery.
Shit got dark.
Shit got real dark and shit.
A couple of things went throughmy head, but because of the
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shit I had going on, shit.
So, boom, I thought, hey, shit,maybe it wouldn't be too bad
not to wake up on this table.
But then next thing I know,after I said that, five minutes
later my kids come walking in ZyFat, tink, dude, and they let
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me and that was my sign sayingman, I can't quit, the fuck is
wrong with me.
Hell, no, I can't quit becausey'all gotta understand shit.
Them little motherfuckers iswho I wake up for every
motherfucking day.
When I don't have the energy toget up out of bed myself, they
make sure I get up to make.
They make sure they call me andtalk about some.
Daddy, I appreciate you, daddy,I love you.
Daddy, thank you for all youdid for me, thank you, the
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little shit, because, like Itell them all the time when I'm
gone, you are my legacy, thethings I'm to have to show you
to, where you don't have to yellor beg nobody for no goddamn
money or be like, hey, I'mfucked up, you make your own way
.
That's what hustlers do.
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We ain't these imitation crabmeat ass niggas out here.
The fuck, I ain't no goddamnflaker, no flunker.
I ain't out here doing this,doing that just to make
everybody else to think I'm amotherfucking hustler.
No, I do that shit for my kids.
I do that shit for my familybecause what you got to
understand is sometimes it ain'tabout me, it's about them how I
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gotta get up, how I gottaprovide for them.
So sometimes when you hear thatfuck everybody, fuck everything,
that ain't no derogatory, thatmeans hey, fuck everybody's
opinion, fuck everybody'sthoughts, fuck everybody else
what they feel about you.
So sometimes you got to makeyour own way.
Sometimes it is, you got tostand on them too.
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You got to stand on your pivotto where these niggas understand
who the fuck you really are.
Because a lot of time peopleget a misconception of what they
hear from other motherfuckersthat don't even have a pot of
piss in or a leg to stand on andthey looking like Lieutenant
Dan out this bitch.
You cannot tell an aunt how tobe an aunt if you never walked
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in that man's shoes.
So you cannot tell me how to bea fucking man or go to my
trials and tribulations withoutbeing able to walk through my
shoes, because half of thesemotherfuckers have been and
killed theyself three times overby this time in their life.
Because a lot of motherfuckersthat goddamn fragile like
motherfucking goddamn glass,fragile like paper, because they
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don't know how to revamp, theydon't know how to get that shit
out the mud, they don't know howto wash that shit off, they
don't know how to dust that shitoff, because they don't
understand.
Oh shit, what you got moving,what you got, man, shit.
Who.
I will sell water to a?
Well, I will sell air to you.
I will tell you hey, taste theL.
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Don't that shit taste likegrapes?
Don't that shit taste likewatermelon?
Don't that shit taste likemango?
Man, I'm always looking toelevate.
I don't care who I'm learningfrom.
I don't care if I'm learningfrom my 18-year-old all the way
down to my five-year-old.
I'm learning from themotherfuckers.
I can learn shit from a junkie.
I don't give a fuck.
Because when the day I stoplearning is the day you put me
in a pine box.
That's what a real hustler is.
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Because I sat back and Ilistened to this little young
boy last year no cap, no kizzy.
He asked me, could he cut hisgrass?
I was just fucking with himbecause the little young man had
a little ambition.
He wanted something out of life.
Little young man had a littleambition.
He wanted something out of life.
He was getting out his ass, offhis ass instead of in front of
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a game in the house, wanting tomake something of himself.
So I was like shit, hell, yeah.
When that motherfucker told meit was 70 dollars.
I was like 70 dollars to cut mygrass.
I said so.
I started and this only thinghe doing is weed, whacking,
edging and cutting no extras.
So next, I know I threw him,you know, I threw him 80.
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So I'm thinking every two weeks, you, you cut my grass for 80,
that's, that's 160 a month.
I said so.
I asked a young man how many,how many yards do you cut?
He said, oh, I cut about, youknow about 10 in a weekend.
I said, wait a minute, youcutting 10 yards a weekend.
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I said, yeah, ten at eightydollars a pop.
You making eight hundreddollars?
He said yeah, but yeah.
Then I got my little friend, he, he, um, he helped me.
What this this guy doing?
13 year old boy, now has anemployee, what of?
What the fuck is going on.
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So I could nothing, do nothingbut salute that young man
because I I admired his dreamsand ambitions when it came to
this shit, because that's a,that's a true hustle.
Next thing, I know I had my son.
Hey, why don't you got down?
You know, learn something fromthat little boy.
Next thing, you know, my sonstarted hanging with him.
My son started learning from.
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Sometimes it's not about whatyou do or what you can learn
from a book, sometimes it's it'sabout chess.
Sometimes you got to putanother piece beside another
piece beside another piece thatare all in the same correlation
so you can learn from them andso you can grow from them,
because you ain't gonna learneverything from your own
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experiences.
Sometimes you got to surroundyourself by hustlers, motivators
, shakers instead of bum assniggas just and and and to.
To put it in retrospect, whenyou talking about imitation crab
, meat ass nigga to.
When you talking about imitationcrab, that's the motherfuckers
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that em that play like.
They all that but never come upwith an idea they own, never
have the motivation themselvesto do whatever.
They just want to do the sameshit somebody else doing instead
of creating their own path.
Or they try to, they try tobutter themselves to everybody
in a room to make you feel likethey are that person when, true
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enough, they are truly imitationcrab meat.
They ain't no cream crab, theyain't no lobster, they ain't no
blue.
Honest to god, they a bust downwig on a mannequin.
That being said, shit, a lot ofthese motherfuckers that are
imitation crab meat are alwaysall over around you.
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They just trying to wait foryour opportunity to blow to
where that.
You can goddamn listen to whatthey got going on or be a part
of what we call, like my dadused to tell me, like what we
used to call them was leeches.
You don't come up with your ownideas.
You don't come up with your ownmotivation.
It's like shit.
Sometimes it takes energy off ahustler to not motivate and
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it's like man, this shitdraining man, this shit.
Too much work to me to sit hereand motivate another nigga to
do what I want to do, to where Iwant to be, to where they they
trying to learn the ins and outs, the chess pieces when they
still playing chuckles, becauseI'll give y'all another story.
I mean shit.
I was paying child support, Iwas paying a hefty amount and
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this dude I was friends with wasso-called friends with.
Come to find out, man, thatnigga was a hater.
I remember this motherfuckertold me one day.
I said, shit, I was always hadhouse having a couple beers.
You know, just back in chilling, I was like shit, man, I'm only
, I ain't gonna have too muchmore.
I'm about to go home, come outto take a nap so I can go around
uber.
Oh, nigga you a taxi driver,nigga you a taxi driver.
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I was like, no, I'm a uberdriver, there's a difference.
Oh, when you get you, when youget to a certain point, bro,
shit, I'm gonna call you and letyou come pick me up, because
you a taxi driver, nigga you,I'm gonna buy you one of them
hats.
I said, okay, let me go aheadand preschool you on something
young fella.
I said would you rather me doinguber as something productive or
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you want to sit over there andkeep hating or being
disrespectful?
I said because I could be outhere doing some bullshit or on
some fuck shit and, goddamn,peeping out your house and make
a phone call to have somebodycome and got a crackhead from
around the way.
Pay him, goddamn, fifty dollarsand a double out to come, kick
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in your front door then bring meeverything he got from your
house.
I said, damn, ask him what hewant to charge for certain x, y
and z's.
So would you rather me be thattaxi driver, nigga, or would you
rather me be a goddamnmotherfucker that's kicking in
your front door?
You make the opportunity, youmake the choice before you out
here, disrespecting another man.
Remember there's two sides of astory with a man the good side
(28:37):
and that demon in him.
Because a lot of times peopledon't understand.
It ain't the person I don'ttrust, it's the demon inside
them I don't trust Becauseeverybody can't walk with the
devil in the pale moonlight,because sometimes you got to get
out here and get your handsdirty and niggas don't
understand that.
Niggas don't learn to underrespect that.
(28:58):
So I want to thank y'all forlistening to me on.
Four Step is on and I'm out.
Peace.
Thanks for watching.
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