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Trust, loyalty, and acceptance take center stage in this raw, unfiltered episode that begins with a viral barbershop scandal. What happens when your barber's private life becomes public knowledge through a shocking video? More importantly, what does your reaction say about you?

The sacred relationship between a man and his barber becomes the springboard for a deeper conversation about masculinity, homophobia, and arbitrary social boundaries. With characteristic candor, I break down why some men suddenly question their barber loyalty when sexuality enters the picture, while others maintain that quality service trumps everything else. "If that nigga product good and my lineup crispy, I'm looking like new money... What do I have to complain about?" The inconsistency in how we apply our comfort boundaries across different service industries reveals much about our lingering biases.

Beyond the barbershop drama, this episode weaves through personal stories that illuminate a philosophy of unconditional acceptance. From embracing LGBTQ+ family members in public to wild tales of drunken misadventures with friends, each story contributes to a larger message: judge people by how they treat you, not by who they love or how they live. Particularly moving is the realization that family support shouldn't come with conditions: "Regardless of what you like or how you dress... I still love you, I still rock with you."

The conversation culminates in a powerful reminder that in a world determined to tear us down, we shouldn't contribute to that negativity by rejecting others for their differences. "Let us live our lives and let us be happy the way we're gonna be happy." Whether you're getting your lineup tight or navigating complex relationships, authentic connections matter more than rigid social expectations. How deep is your acceptance?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yo, welcome to 4 Steppers Only, where we sit down
and tell you to sit down andwatch a stepper step.
But I want to ask you somethinghow deep is your love?
How deep is your love?
How deep is your love?

(00:22):
How deep is your?
Oh shit, boy, I think I'm goingthrough puberty, good God,
almighty.
Now I want to sit down andwelcome y'all to Four Staples
Only.
Good God, almighty, my fuckingvoice cracking and shit.
Oh my God, I think my ballsjust dropped.
But I want to welcome y all tothis wonderful installment.

(00:46):
Oh boy, I heard your bartendersucking dick for clips, for tips
.
Good God, almighty, what havethese niggas come to?
What have these niggas come to?
Oh my God.
I mean I'm gonna go ahead andtell y'all, but y'all gotta be
understanding this shit is raw,uncut and unedited.

(01:08):
I apologize if I offend anybody,but if you know me in real life
, you know I really don't give afuck, my mouth just loose.
But this is where I'm about tocome from.
I done had barbers that werestuds bull dag, goddamn goth
white females, hell.
I done even slipped up and wentto grade clips, but I have

(01:31):
never, ever, ever, ever, ever inmy life have had to worry about
my bartender hitting well, notmy bartender, my barber hitting
on me.
It's like, how does thatconversation even start?
I'm just asking, shit, bro, howyou going to straighten out the
tilt this afternoon.

(01:52):
Shit, I leave the little guy.
Don't tighten up in the backroom.
What's up?
Like, bro, how do you know?
Like, how does that eventranspire?
But I'm going to go ahead andkick it to y'all how this, this
situation even popped off.
I went to go get my hair cutbecause my mama told me I looked
like I was homeless the otherday.
I'm some hair all over my face.

(02:14):
Goddamn.
Looked like I had a minifrogoing on.
Looked like I was one stage oflike I was going through some
shit, but really active, realactuality shit.
I was just being a dad betweenworking long hours, making sure
I made my son's practices,working overtime, got on trying

(02:36):
to get my son ready forgraduation.
You know I just had a lot ofshit populating, but it's it's.
I went to my barber and he said,bro, boom, bro, you won't
believe this.
I said what's happening, bro?
What's up?
I'm gonna talk to him, tell himwhat's up.
He said, bro, you heard aboutsuch and such, but I ain't gonna
disclose his name because wedon't do no name dropping unless

(03:01):
you really got them.
Piss me the fuck off.
Then I really name drop, butain't like half y'all know who
the fuck I'm talking aboutanyway.
But anyway he told me something, bro.
Bro the nigga wife done got down, popped in on.
I said what you mean?
Popped in on boy, boy, the howwatch the video.
I said boy.
He done showed me the video.
Bro, the house look like it'salready been destroyed.

(03:22):
Next thing, you know, the wifegot on, pops open the door, bruh
the nigga, butt naked I meanbutt, booty hole naked, with
nothing but a do-rag on andanother individual laying in the
bed.
We don't know if it's a man,woman or whatever, but folks, I

(03:46):
mean like the internet istalking, saying that this is
another man laying in a bed,saying this man has snuck in in
a wee early morning just togotten on.
You know, come over there andchill with the man.
And it's a friday morning, bro,you're supposed to be at the
barbershop cutting heads, butyou at the house, laid up with

(04:08):
another man Bro, oh my God bro,I hope this wasn't one of his
goddamn clients making a home,goddamn, getting a home trim, if
you know what I mean.
Trim and paying him with a tip.
You get what I'm saying.
I don't know if it was the tipor the nut that he was panning
with, but hey, whatever floatsyour boat and rocks your ship,

(04:33):
hey, that's on you.
Hey, I'm not judgmental here.
I'm just saying, like, how doesyour client turn into your
goddamn rendezvous, yourrendezvous, your woot-a-woot,
your duck-off, something likethat?
Because I'm trying to figureout how y'all's conversations go
, because I know there's othermen in the barbershop while he's

(04:55):
cutting your head and I meanshit, I understand you cutting
his head, but I wasn't expectingthe nigga to be getting some
head from you, but anyway.
So I asked a bunch of my buddies, but much of my side of
partners, a bunch of dudes Iwork with the the number one
question if this is disclosedabout your barber, do you go

(05:18):
back and still fuck with yourbarber?
In my Regulation about thesituation I told him my barber
ain't never Hit on me.
So shit, if that nigga productgood and my lineup crispy, I'm
looking like new money, looklike I'm about to go.
You know, I'm casket sharp.

(05:39):
What do I have to complainabout?
Because I mean, he's never hiton me.
He's never tried to swoop in onme and my product is a one
where I never have to question aproduct.
Because if a lot of y'all don'tknow a lot of these barbers out
here charging 50 and 60 dollarsjust to fuck up your lineup

(06:02):
Because of social media, thesocial media is telling them
they should charge this whenthey're not worth this.
So where do we stand on this?
Because, like one of my otherpartners pointed out, said shit
if they questioned it aboutstill going to their barber.
Because I mean, it's a lot oftrust between a man and his
barber.
I mean, straight up, there's alot of trust between a man and

(06:26):
his barber.
I mean, straight up, there's alot of trust between a man and
his barber.
Because I know sometimes youjust go, you ain't got to see
the mirror put up, like to checkout what it look like.
You just know he going to comethrough.
But the thing I sit there andquestion because I've gone, I've
had barbers.
They be juked out.

(06:47):
They be high as fuck on pills.
Goddamn gotta take 35 smokebreaks.
Goddamn trapping out abarbershop.
I'm just saying I've had thesetype of barbers to where I get
frustrated.
Or I'm sitting in thebarbershop for four hours for
nothing, to wait to see, hey,bro, how many in front of me,
tight shit, but why?

(07:11):
The biggest question, like a lotof my partners asking if they
questioning their barber, didthey find their barber cute?
You scared to see over there.
You get seen over there toviolate.
What image of yours?
What image are you violating,bro?
Because I'd rather see a mother, a motherfucker, seeing me walk
out of a great clips than abarber shop.

(07:34):
You get me, because there's adifference between a great clips
and a barber shop.
Because the first time I went toa great clips, but that shit, I
told Ashley do you know whatshe's doing?
Hey, this is my last resort.
I had to go there because I hada job interview the next day.
I think I ain't get the jobbecause my lineup was fucked up,
but anyway, I asked the lady doyou know how to cut hair?

(07:59):
She said yeah, I know how tocut hair.
The first thing she did was gobackwards against the grain Boy.
I about died.
I about motherfucking died.
I thought I was about to have awhole conniption.
I literally think I died threetimes in that chair while she
was cutting my hair.
But anyway, go back to thestory.
A lot of these guys like whatare you thinking?

(08:20):
Is your barber cute?
You thinking dirty thoughtsabout your barber?
Or have you had, or somebodyquestioned, your masculinity,
about being, you know, analphabet diver or you know a
sneaking geek?
A line of frequent, they callthem.

(08:40):
A lot of folks call them justthem download as motherfuckers.
A lot of folks call them justthem down low ass motherfuckers.
I'm just curious about what youthink, because me personally, as
long as my barber ain't neverhit on me, I would still go back
.
But I know a lot of men ain'tconfident in masculinity, where
they can be seen in that light,to where they're like, oh shit,

(09:05):
I ain't got shit to worry about.
The nigga ain't never hit aboutme.
My money, good shoot.
I just know I'm going overthere for a product, I'm just
going to get a job done and boom, I'm out the door.
That's it.
Because I mean, men don'tquestion when you go to a spa
and there's a man there to giveyou a massage.
So what are you questioning?
What are you literallyquestioning?

(09:28):
So now this story time, now offthat subject with this story
time.
Um, because I had anex-girlfriend one time.
I mean she ain't shit anyway,but anyway, um, I had an
ex-girlfriend, um, and a lot ofmy like my day, one day, ones

(09:50):
that ain't never folded on me,were females and they're my
solid partners even to this day.
I mean we like 20, 30, 30 yearsdeep, um, home girls and
homeboys you know what I'msaying.
And oh, by the way, long liveBubba Chuck, long live B-Chuck.

(10:11):
Um, yeah, that's one of mypartners that passed along,
passed away not too long ago.
So long live B-Chuck.
But anyway.
So the girl was got down tellingme because I used to hang out
with my, my homegirl, a lot,because they knew how to got
down, you know they'll whip upsome, um, some meatballs, some

(10:32):
wings they cooking before we goout.
So you know, I'm over theremunching and crunching before I
got known.
You know, drink my liquor,cause, like back then, shit,
we'll go through a bottle in thenight and shoot, we be looking
for more liquor, um, but anyway,she asked me oh, you hang with
all these females, are you gay?
Nah, I didn't, I'm just solidwith.

(10:56):
No, they just cool the fuck.
But so one night I'm walking outof a bar like I used to drink
liquid cocaines.
If y'all never had a liquidcocaine, that shit is like death
in a glass.
It's in a little shot glass.
What you do is you take 151,you take Golden Slugger and you

(11:17):
take Jaeger, put it all in ashot.
So I used to do those like 3-4times a night and if you know me
, you know me.
It wasn't shit for me to bringup a new alcohol for us to try
for us going out our ourpre-game rituals, um, like I
can't tell you how many of myhome girls and homeboys, um I

(11:39):
done made throw up outside of aclub or in the club bathroom or
on our way home, shit, I used totell, to tell them, shit, we
either calling Chewbacca or wecalling the dinosaurs because
they're going to sound like youknow, all the way through.
So I'm getting outside, I'mfucked up, drunk.
So they asked me what I want toeat because I'm fucked up.

(12:00):
Like you don't take friends tothe ER, you take them to the
Waffle House or the Crystals.
So I told them hey, let's goget some Crystals, them little
goddamn you know them littlebite-sized sliders, or some
wings, because that's the onlyplace open at this time of night
.
Cool, no problem, as I'mwaiting for them to go get my
car and pull back up because I'mtoo fucked up to walk fast

(12:24):
enough, a random joe schmo walksup to me.
He said hey, bro, can you helpme to the waff house?
Shit, sure, bro, you just makethat out of that.
Some directions, I ain't.
At first time I heard it was,hey, well, what you finna do.
So me being drunk, I was likeshit, well, me and my friend

(12:47):
we're gonna go to crystals, yeah, but I know that, baby, you
want to go too.
My dumb ass is thinking thenigga from new orleans.
So I'm thinking he just sayingbaby is like we say hey, what's
up shawty or something.
Hey, what's up partner, what'sup bro, what's up twin shit out
or something.
Hey, what's up partner, what'sup bro, what's up twin shit like
that, like just lingo.
So he says well, baby, I'll payfor yours if you just want to

(13:19):
go with me.
Why the fuck that nigga keepcalling me baby.
Immediately, immediately, getsober.
And I get.
I say hey, bro, what you doing?
Bro, hey, what you doing.
My friend walks, my homegirlswalk up.

(13:40):
Hey, jj, what's going on?
Hey, man, I think thismotherfucker trying to fuck me.
They bust out laughing.
I said, man, I know I'm short,I know I'm small, but these
niggas, well, what the fuck, man, I ain't this, ain't that type
of party.
So, yeah, and then.
But after that we would end upgoing to crystals and we ordered

(14:05):
like 35 in food, then headedback to um Broadacres, but I, I
think we pulled off without thefood.
I don't even know if I, becauseI don't remember eating,
because I know my cousin Zay waswith me, but I don't remember
eating.
Yeah, that, yeah, that wasfucked up night.

(14:28):
Yeah, fucked up night.
I can't tell you how many nightsI've had like that, to where
it's just a blur, like, okay,man, um, nephew, nephew, drink,
um, nikita Shaw, shawana, tawana, all of us done went to Harlem

(14:51):
nights in Atlanta, remind you.
We getting to it, we drinking,and it's about 45 minutes back
home, 45 minutes to an hour backhome.
So I mean we getting to it, wehaving a ball.
Next thing, I know we therethere I done had a lot of drunk
escapade nights.
Y'all don't judge me.

(15:13):
Whatever.
I used to drink like a fish.
Now I don't.
I mean, y'all need to see thesebottles here.
But I got even more over thereshit.
I damn near got a bar but, um,so the club closes.
So I done snuck a bottle, a halfa bottle, of what was I
drinking that night?
I don't even know what I wasdrinking back then.

(15:33):
I don't know it wasn't brownyet.
I wouldn't establish it brownyet, I think, because I know I
remember paying for a bottle andI was like shit, I ain't, finna
, let that bottle go to waste.
I'm finna, sneak that bitch outto the car.
So I ended up sneaking it outto the car.
Don't ask me how I got it tothe car, because all I know,

(15:54):
like my homegirls ain't had nobags, no, nothing like that.
So I don't even remember how Igot it to the car, because I
know it's a half a bottle.
So we get back in the car.
Nikita, jimmy, half a bottle.
So we get back in the car.
Nikita, jimmy, all them tookoff, it's only me and tot in the
car.
So I'm driving.
Bro, tell me how I get lost ona one-way street in atlanta.

(16:15):
If you go down downtown atlanta, a lot of the streets are
goddamn one way.
So how the fuck did I get lost?
I know I was fucked up,couldn't find 85, um, but I
ain't even had a GPS, I ain'thad Waze and these motherfuckers
long gone.
Tell me why I find 85.
Boom, I said, oh shit, thereyou go.
Yum Got on there.

(16:35):
I done jumped in the HOV lane.
I know I'm running like 90 to95 miles an hour.
This is not a good decision.
Kids, do not take my shit as away of life.
I made a stupid decision.
I drove while I was intoxicated.
I don't do that shit, no more.
But I ended up catching up toNikita and Jimmy and I just blew

(17:01):
past him.
Next thing, I know Jimmy donejumped behind me.
Boom, but Nikita calling bothof our phones, cussing us the
fuck out.
At this time, y'all, I was in mylittle, my black Acura Boy.
I love that motherfucker.
That motherfucker used to go,but we done made it to

(17:22):
McDonald's, went to McDonald's.
I don't know what the fuckhappened.
I done got kicked to aMcDonald's.
Went to McDonald's.
I don't know what the fuckhappened.
I done got kicked out of aMcDonald's.
Ask me how I got kicked out ofa McDonald's.
I wasn't trying to fight nobody, I was just being me.
If you know me, I like to havefun, I like to joke, I like to
crack jokes.
But I was in McDonald's and Igot kicked out.

(17:46):
I stay super shit.
That's like one time we went toStroker's and I was with one of
my exes.
We went to Stroker's and Ihanded her some wines to go
throw up at the club, throw upat the stripper.
If you know, certain certainstages have those little ropes

(18:08):
around it so you can't go incertain areas.
But next I know I look up thisgirl and got down, went straight
towards the rope and just wentflat first and hit the flow in
front of the stripper.
The stripper came down off thestage to check on the girl.
I said oh my god.
I said oh my god, we too drunkfor this.
We too drunk for this.
That's just type of.
That's just type of nights weused to have, just to have fun

(18:32):
and have a good time.
But I mean shit.
But back to back to the firsttopic that we bust this story
out with.
A lot of men are very homophobicand it's saddening because a
lot of them don't know how to.
You know, just fuck with peoplehow they fuck with people.

(18:52):
Because you got certain peoplethat I'm real close with that
people look at me like damn, whythe fuck?
He fuck.
Like one of my cousins.
I love him to death, love himto death, love him to death more
.
He is a makeup artist for thestars.
He is a artist.
He's a multi-talentedindividual.

(19:14):
I mean top tier.
Bye tux, but um, he, I'm sorry,I'm telling my dog to go away.
He is a multi-talentedindividual.
It's so crazy because one day mycousin is, he dresses up.
He dresses up.

(19:36):
I mean wigs.
I mean that motherfucker bedressing to a T, makeup on point
every time.
That motherfucker be playinghis fuck in his own way.
You get what I'm saying.
So one night I saw him out at abar I'm talking about him.
He in his full little get up.
I mean like I mean nails on wigon, makeup on like eyeshadow,

(20:00):
all that shit.
I said what's up cuz?
What's going on with you?
I love you cuz.
So I go up, dap him up and givehim a hug.
He says you don't, you're myonly cousin that will hug me in
public when I'm dressed likethis.
I said man, fuck them folks, ifthey got something to say,
they're gonna say it to my face.
I said if they're questioningme about my sexuality because

(20:22):
I'm hugging my cousin, they cando that shit all day.
I don't give no fucks, because,regardless of what you like or
how you dress, whatever,whatever, whatever, I still love
you, I still rock with you.
I don't give a fuck.
Who's the judge?
They ain't God.
That's just how I feel Because,like one of my uncles, my

(20:45):
uncle's the same way.
Shit, we make a joke all thetime.
Because he tells me I'm theblack sheep of the family
because at one point in time Iwas married to a white woman.
That's my ex-wife, that'sdude's mom, but that's dude's

(21:05):
mama.
But he, his new boyfriend, waswhite.
So he tells me hey, john, wethe black sheep of the family.
I said, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.
I said that's because youbrought.
I said, no, you got me beat.
He said well, how you say I gotyou beat.
I said because you brought awhite man home.

(21:30):
I brought a white man home.
I brought a white woman home.
You, you took mine up a tier.
I can't beat that.
I ain't trying to beat that you.
Hey, yo, yo, drunker trump'smine.
But we joke about that because.
But, but as soon as I see him,I love him.
Shit, I'll always.
That's like.
That's like one of my uncles Irock with.
I got got shit.
I got four uncles, top three,top tier, hands down my uncle,
my uncle Carlos, my uncleWilliam and my uncle Jew Top

(21:54):
tier.
I don't care what nobody say.
They are my favorite unclesbecause no matter what I want to
hear or I need to hear, they'regoing to tell it and keep it
straight.
That's like when I was goingthrough all my bullshit about my
divorce, my uncle and my auntcame down to take care of me
when I was going through mysurgery and he told me a lot and

(22:18):
helped me learn a lot.
And he was also helping methrough those tough times and
giving me those conversationsthat I needed to hear to pick
myself up at that low point,because I was going through a
shoulder surgery and a divorceat the same time.
So at that time I ain't hadnobody to have my back.
I ain't had nobody to tell meit was going to be all right,
except for my family, my blood,people that actually fought with

(22:41):
me, my friends.
But that's, that's just what itis.
No matter what you look like,what you dress up like, whatever
, whatever, if they rock withyou, just that way.
Treat them as such.
Don't alienate them because oftheir choices.
Because would you want somebodyto alienate you because of your

(23:02):
choices, your decisions, yourhiccups, your misfalls?
Because what makes them happy?
Let them make them happy,because there's too much shit
out there in this world that'shere to tear us down when we
don't need our families tearingus down or those we, those
so-called ones we care about, totear us down.
So let us live our lives andlet us be happy the way we're

(23:23):
gonna be happy.
Happy Because I mean shit.
I get.
I got told plenty of times oh,you want to know me, what the
fuck you mean?
One of them, what you fuck youmean by one of them?
Because this, this individual,made me happy at this point in
time in my life, because I don'tsee none black and white.
I see shit like the crayon box,because everybody has their own

(23:47):
potential and own good thingsabout them to where you can love
them for them and you ain't gotto judge them off off of the
bullshit you want to judge themoff of.
So I mean, if that's youropinion, fuck you and your
opinion.
And goddamn, just rock how youwant to rock, because at the end
of the day, shit steppers gonnastep the regardless, regardless
if you like us or you don'tlike us, we're gonna step for
forever, for our life.

(24:07):
So that's why I tell y'all,thank y'all for joining us here
on four steppers, only we out.
Peace.
We'll see you next time.
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