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Loyalty runs deeper than blood. In this raw, unfiltered conversation about trust and judgment, we pull back the curtain on what real friendship looks like in a world obsessed with oversharing.

Starting with a listener question about single parenthood and dating ethics, we navigate the complex territory of who has the right to judge others' personal choices. The truth is simple yet profound – the only judgment that matters comes from those who know your complete story, not just the pieces they've cherry-picked to form opinions.

Through hilarious and sometimes wild stories from military days in Augusta, Georgia, we illustrate a fundamental principle that seems increasingly rare: what happens in your circle stays in your circle. From unexpected adventures in unconventional strip clubs to the sobering reality of a friend's DUI arrest, these experiences demonstrate how true loyalty manifests when it matters most.

The most powerful moment comes when discussing that friend who, despite facing legal trouble, refused to implicate anyone else in his situation. This exemplifies the unwritten code that separates authentic relationships from superficial ones – protecting your people even when it's difficult, and handling your business within the boundaries of trust you've established.

For anyone struggling with betrayal or questioning where they stand with certain people in their life, this episode offers clarity: once someone proves they can't keep your business private, they've lost the privilege of being in your inner circle. In the words shared during the episode, "I can't rock with you no more, I can't trust you no more."

Ready to evaluate which relationships in your life are built on real loyalty? Listen now and consider: who would keep your secrets, stand by you in trouble, and live by the code that what happens in house stays in house?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I said, bird, it's cold in here, it might be some
steppers in the atmosphere.
Hey, welcome to Four SteppersOnly, where we tell you to sit
down and watch a stepper stephere on Four Steppers Only.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Man, I can tell y'all my voice is a little bit fucked
up today.
I ain't even gonna hold you,man.
Shit, I'm just waking up.
Shit.
I've been working like crazyshit.
I mean I'm scoped to hit a youknow a good chunk of hours but
I'm trying to give y'all thatsame content to infect y'all's
illo.
So I was questioned with thismagnificent question from one of

(00:41):
our listeners Judgment.
She said hey, jack, you gotkids.
I said yeah, would it considerme a hoe if I let another dude
hit because my baby daddy ain'tshit?

(01:03):
I said, damn, that's a, that'sa, that's a, that's a, that's a
judgment's.
Last question I said but thequestion is how much do you
trust this individual?
How much do you got to knowthis individual?
Because I mean, in my eyes,who's a judge?

(01:26):
Anybody off anything.
And the way I look at it is, ifyou shut the fuck up and don't
let everybody know your business, who is there to judge?
Because I mean, you got somepeople moving, got down real
wonky around this world but theyquick as fuck to judge another
individual situation or you know, chime in another, another
individuals.
You know whatever, whatever.
Because I told I said shit, Iain't gonna hold you the baby,
that ain't shit.
He ain't there, he ain'tpresent, he ain't, you know,

(01:49):
helping you, um, with thedoctor's appointments, checking
up, tapping in with you aboutthe child and the nigga, just
ain't shit.
Then I mean go do you boo, butretrospect.
You can't just got downsneaking, geek on a dude if he's

(02:10):
actually trying to be there asa father, you can't do that.
I said because she asked me jack, why do you say, why do you
look at it that way?
I said because I have been onthe receiving end of when my
baby mama sneaking and geeking,while my mama, um, while she was
pregnant with one of one of mykids hell, I think I was one of
them, goddamn babies, because Igot a big ass dent in the top of

(02:32):
my head from shit, somethingjabbing in the womb.
I think my mama was pregnant.
Mama, I know you're gonna killme if you ever hear that, but
anyway.
But but like we, what we say,shit, you got certain urges.
You got certain desires.
You got, if people step up andplay that position, you got that
.
It's all about trust because,like I tell people all the time

(02:52):
when you pregnant, shit, youcan't get pregnant twice.
Only thing the baby gonna getis a dent in the top of his head
and some good health, um,because I mean, it's like
fertilizer.
You gotta, you gotta, you know,spread a little fertilizer on
the seed to make it grow, so Imean shit, to make it a
functioning uh, functioningindividual in society.
You gotta fertilize that,motherfucker, but anyway.

(03:12):
But I mean back to judgment.
People are so quick to judgeeverybody's situation without
knowing the whole story, nothingbut the story, and only hear
what that one side of the partyhas to tell.
Because, like I tell people now, in this big age of 38, I am,
oh damn, I'm two years away fromfolding shit.

(03:33):
Well, I ain't even two, I'mlike one and a half.
Um, that I don't.
Even if you want to judge me, Idon't give a fuck, no more.
And the I the reason why I'vecome to that conclusion is you
going to believe what you wantto believe?
If you know me, you know me.
If you don't, you don't.
If you want to believe whatthat person said about me, and

(03:54):
you know, and you've dealt withme before, man, fuck you and
fuck your opinion.
I already know where you'restaying, you will flow anyway.
So you staying, you will flowanyway.
So stand on the curb, watch andwatch from the bleachers.
You can't, you can't come playin the street with me, no more,
because that tells me right nowthat your loyalty lies elsewhere
.
You ain't really loyal to me.

(04:15):
You really just truly don'tfuck with me.
That or, in in retrospect, thatyou really truly don't know me
um, and we don't need to berocking together, we don't need
to be talking nothing, because Imean, like like once I get
burned or find out, find outyour hand, like we're playing
cards or I can be able to readyour hand.
Bro, I never trust you againonce I hear you flaw.

(04:39):
If y'all people don't know whatflaw means, I mean we're gonna
scroll to this urban dictionaryright quick in my mind, in my
mental, and tell you flaw meansfucked up, faded, jaded, um, an
individual that's not um, thatdon't really have your back in
different shit, and that was ourreading rainbow moment of the

(05:04):
individual called flaw.
But anyway, if your ass ismotherfucking flaw with me, man,
I cannot fuck with you.
Nigga, you cannot ride in thecar with me, we cannot go do
dirt together, because in mymind you tell everybody and
their mama whatever they want tohear or whatever we had going
on, because I mean, we, like meand my buddies, used to run by a

(05:27):
code.
I mean, shit, that's my buddyJern Ferrari Fresh, let's see
Jern Ferrari Fresh, springer,and god damn, long live my buddy
man.
Shit, yeah, I lost a buddy inthe military.

(05:50):
Um, shit, I'm gonna tell y'allabout a crazy night we had.
So this is, this is to telly'all what kind of individuals I
like to have around me.
We used to speak by a codebecause a lot of the shit people
don't need to know.
Like we used to say, if, if youweren't with us, you ain't
going to know what we did.
Only thing you won't know iswhat we, the basics, like yeah,

(06:13):
we went out.
Yeah, we kicked it.
Yeah, we have fun.
That's the basics.
You ain't going to know theescapades we went on, but anyway
, like, ok, I'm going to breakthis shit down to you.
So I used to be stationed inAugusta, good old disgust of
Georgia.
I'm going to go ahead and tellyou that right now.
So you know, we used to go downthere for drill.

(06:33):
So we all text each other earlyin the day, find out when
everybody pulling up.
We'll either do this Friday orSaturday night most nights is
Saturday.
They used to pay for our meals.
Oh, the Golden Corral, you know.
You go get your goddamn goodfeeling before you start
drinking.
You know what I mean.
We go get, you know, wings,steak, ribs, oh, if y'all didn't

(06:57):
know, go to Corral, be bussinglike that they do.
Even you can tell them whichway you can cut your steak to if
y'all want to take somebody ona cheap date, you Tell them
which way you can cut your steakto if y'all want to take
somebody on a cheap date.
You know what I mean.
Or y'all just want to get outon the town, you and the fellas.
We ain't got to do all thatbougie shit that the females do.
You know what I mean.
But anyway, we got down andwent there to get something to
eat.
Boom, all of us link up, we alllaughing and joking.

(07:20):
Everybody done put that shit on, everybody fresh.
But you got to understand allof us do not look militant at
all.
Everybody got on their fits.
They got the full beards, theyrocking their shit, they jeweled
out whatever.
I don't do no jewelry, though.
I might rock my Apple Watch,but that's it, but anyway.
So when we leave there they said, jack, what we finna do, man,

(07:50):
we finna go politic downtown,you know, get a couple drinks in
, then we're gonna go, you knowwe're gonna, we're gonna go
which way the ocean flows us.
So, boom, we out, we having agood time.
Um, we had this little dive bar, um, on washington street in
augustine.
So boom next.
I know we over there takingshots, boom now.
Now you got to understand.
We some drinkers.
Well, I used to be a drinker, Iused to be a heavy drinker,
like shit.
They used to ask me, jack, whatday is you drinking Shit?

(08:12):
Every day ending?
Why?
And shit, honestly, why notdrink Shit?
I'm enjoying myself.
As long as I can control myhabits and control my vices, I
don't let the alcohol do me andtake control of me and make me

(08:33):
make judgments that I don't needto make.
We good, we cool, we steady,whatever, whatever.
So boom next.
I know we go from that spot toanother spot.
So then we go to this otherspot.
This other spot, it is a stripclub.
So we like shit.
Hey, man, off our renditions ofwhat we know about strip clubs.
They drinks, be heavy, it's agood time, they play good music,
whatever.

(08:53):
So boom, we walk inside.
Why ain't?
Why they ain't got no poles inthe strip club, they just got
these damn little pedestals inthis motherfucker.
You get what I'm saying.
So we like what kind of stripclub we is.
So we just bust out laughing.
So jern, come back from the bar, mad as fuck I said, jern,

(09:17):
what's wrong with you?
man, these motherfuckers tryingto charge me nine dollars for
corona, nine dollars for corona.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Oh my god, where the fuck are we at?

Speaker 2 (09:30):
I ain't no goddamn coronas before it because you
usually, if y'all don't drinkshit, coronas usually run you
about 325, four dollars in a bar.
They ain't gonna run you nohigh, unless you in cali.
That's when they charge ninedollars.
So shit, I'm like shit, fuck it, we'll just go in on a bucket.
I said or I think this is thethe mindset of the establishment

(09:53):
if I charge you nine dollarsfor a brew, you will go and pay.
You'll rather go buy liquorthan beer, all right.
So you know, we said fuck thatshit.
We've already been drinkingliquor, shit.
We were just trying to mellowand you know, die down and shit.
We'll just slow pimp thisgoddamn this drink.

(10:14):
So you know, we got a littlecup of wine.
We like shit man, thesemotherfuckers talking we, we up
there getting our drinks and wegetting our ones and shit, we
got thems here.
Coming to the next event aglitter party.
What the fuck is a glitterparty?
This motherfucker comes outlooking like the god now, like a

(10:36):
little motherfucking orlandobrown at a diddy party, covered
in goddamn body oil.
No, it was not a male stripclub.
The motherfucker just lookedlike a little boy with no
titties, no ass, just covered inbody oil.
So it was like what the fuck isthis shit here?
So this motherfucker startedthrowing glitter on themselves.
I said, oh no.

(10:59):
I said I said so we just, youknow, we sit back in a cut and
laugh about this shit.
We just like man.
What the fuck man, when we getout this motherfucker, we're
gonna we, you know, we're gonnago to another bar.
Tell me why shit we.
So we sitting there.
They said the next next showcoming up a dominatrix party.

(11:20):
Okay, these females look kindof good.
They're coming out in allleather and shit.
I really didn't think it wasreally gonna be dominatrix type
shit coming to thismotherfucking shit.
So Old girl done, bent the girlover Then strapped her to some
shit.
Man, it's the first time I seenone of them got down like the

(11:43):
little strap down chairs and thegear that comes with being a
dominatrix.
Tell me why this motherfuckerstarts beating her ass.
I'm talking about she turningfucking fiery.
I ain't talking about no littlebaby pets.
This motherfucker winding backand yeah, hey, yeah, hey, yeah.
I'm like, oh my god, this isabuse.

(12:05):
Oh, no, how did somebody enjoythis shit?
I'm talking about she grabbingabout her throat, grabbing about
her jaw, grabbing about a hell.
I'm talking like forceful.
I'm like, oh, my god, she gonnabeat her ass.
So boom.
And then the next one up wascoming to the stage, a brothel

(12:25):
party.
What the fuck is a brothelparty?
Tell me why they don't got.
Oh no, no, it wasn't a brothelparty, it was a burlesque party.
I ain't never seen no burlesqueshit.
So I was fascinated, I ain'tgonna lie.
She came out in that beat.
I said, boy, shit, I think Ishould have been born in the
goddamn 30s, 20s, whenever theyhad that shit going on, that
bordello shit.
I should have been there.

(12:45):
That shit was sexy as fuck.
I ain't gonna have you with thegoddamn big flowing dresses and
the goddamn motherfuckershaking that leg and winding it
up in the air.
I said, oh, she had a longstockings with the frilly frills
on it.
I said, boy, this is where weat right here.
So my'm popping, so we.
So we didn't watch about threeshows.
So we, you know.

(13:06):
So next thing, I know after.
But in between those shows theyused to have like certain
situations pop off.
I mean, in certain situationsthat popped off were like you
know, your normal strip clubstuff.
I guess they had to get readyin the back.
Um, so you have the regularstrippers, you know, going
around, but they ain't do nopole work, they ain't have

(13:26):
nothing to climb up, they ain'thave to be Spider-Man, so you
know, they just did the groundmovement, shit, I guess it was.
You know they couldn't havepoles in there because of the
insurance, whatever it's fuckingcalled.
I'm having a brain fart y'all.
But you know, know they stillhad that they were playing the

(13:48):
trap music.
They're playing, they.
You know what matter of fact,they were not playing trap music
, they only played like low,like low, low quality trap music
.
They ain't pay no g's and noshit like that.
They played the delicate music,I guess, because they didn't
like, uh, certain environmentsbeing there, though, if y'all

(14:08):
can understand that, um, butspeaking on that shit, I'll do a
story time for another timeabout my journey to west
virginia, about day strip clubs,um, but anyway, so boom, you
know.
So we were cool on that, so wewere like shit.
So we, we good, we bought fourdrinks in on this situation, but

(14:32):
after we came from the bar.
So you know, I'm good, and I'mgood and lubricated because I
see, when my partners, he overthere got, now I'm looking like
he ready to go to sleep.
So we're like whatever,whatever.
So we got now I'm wondering todo so and so damn, they got a
line outside of this.
Let's go to there.
Let's go check that shit out.
So we go them one of the dudesso.
And so damn, they got a lineoutside of theirs.
Let's go to there, let's gocheck that shit out.
So we go in this motherfucker.

(14:54):
I kid you, motherfucking not.
We walk in this motherfuckingstrip club.
This shit looks like a goddamngunshot house, if you don't know
what a gunshot house is.
Like this shit, like you see,wall, wall, straight to the back
though.
So we're like, oh shit, whatkind of strip club is this?
Like, literally, I shit you not.

(15:15):
I don't even remember the nameof the motherfucker they had.
As soon as you walk in the ballright there to your left, you
walk down like about 20, 30 feet, the stage right there to your
right.
So you ain't really got nobreathing room in this
motherfucker.
You sneeze too hard, you mightgot down, your elbows might
touch both of the walls.

(15:36):
So you know, we find a littlespot for all four of us and you
know we sitting there chillingpoliticking next thing, you know
.
But we see this.
We see this thick girl comingin so got in one of the partners
I can't remember who it wasthey talking about something Boy

(15:59):
like you know, he talking lowand he talking about something
Boy, shit, I like a motherfucker, like that boy I'm talking
about, like she was thick butthis day and age fit thick, like
she had a fat ass, big tittiesand you know, she had a little
waist.
So I guess she thought we weretalking about him, because when

(16:26):
she got up in front of us shelooked my homeboy dead in the
face and said if you don't likeit, you can get the fuck out.
I said, oh, but I mean she didher thing on that motherfucker.
I mean she was souped up.
I ain't gonna, I ain't gonnalie to you.
She would got down had thatmotherfucker goddamn punked up.
And in this establishment theyplaying trap music, they playing

(16:49):
, they playing my shit, theyplaying like we getting out of
the mud, we got down.
We ain't a bad boy in thekitchen whipping crack.
You get what I'm saying, butit's funny that that happened.
So boom, we get like, so we get.
This is before Ubers and allthat shit got to popping.
So we leave this motherfucker,we thugging it.

(17:10):
So we walk outside.
So we asked everybody,everybody straight to dry,
everybody straight dry.
Yeah, all right.
So, boom, we get it out.
Cause this motherfucker, one ofmy buddies long god rest his
soul I'm having a brain fart, Ican't remember his name, shit.
And I feel so embarrassed aboutit because, um, it's fucked up,

(17:34):
um, but that's my dog for life.
I don't give a fuck whathappened, but anyway, so long
story short, so I get in my carto drive back to my hotel.
So our rule of thumb iswhenever you get to your
destination, no matter whetherit's a female's house, no matter
there's a female's hotel room,you get back to your own hotel

(18:03):
room.
You text a group and they'reable to let everybody know.
So in my mind, I'm like, fuck,let me go to speed limit, let me
turn my music down, let me juststay in this one lane and focus
on this one thing.
And I'm I'm so focused on theroad I'm driving, driving I said

(18:25):
, damn, they go.
My Fuck, I am not making thisleft turn.
I am not making this left turnBecause the motherfucker is
still behind me when I look back.
So I'm still.
So I fuck it.
I say I'm going to drivestraight.
I done drove straight.
I know about a good 30 minutes.

(18:46):
I look back no, it wasn't no 30minutes, it was like 10, 15.
I look back no, it wasn't 30minutes, it was like 10 15.
I look back up.
This motherfucker ain't behindme, no more.
So I look around like you knowhow.
You so focused on something,you forget what if like
everything else going on.
I look around, I'm on the otherside of the river, in augusta.

(19:10):
I'm in north aug side of theriver in Augusta.
I'm in North Augusta.
I'm almost in South Carolina.
I do not need to be here,especially at 3, 4 o'clock in
the morning when I got to beback at drill at 7 o'clock in
the morning.
So boom, I plug it into mygoddamn Google Maps.
I get my man.
It's telling me I'm 45 minutesaway from my goddamn hotel.

(19:31):
Everybody else done shot me atext Letting me know that I made
it, except for my partner.
My partner ain't texted me yet.
So I'm like shit, he might bejust fucked up sleeping in the

(19:51):
truck.
So we get back to drill.
I see all these motherfuckersand we talking about the shit.
We said what man?
We're our boy, we're our boyman.
So we went to the with theadmin because nigga working
admin, he ain't show up for work.
This morning we get a call about11 o'clock.
Tell him why this motherfuckerbeen in jail.
He got pulled over for a DUI.

(20:12):
He's like, oh man, what thefuck?
So then?
So boom, they're gonna ask himwho you were with.
He said oh, I was by myself, mynigga, my nigga.
And that shows you wherecertain people live by the code
and other people don't.

(20:32):
But that ties back into thesituation that we were having
before, because the only peoplethat knew that we were with each
other were us and whoever sawus out in town.
But because people would passjudgment on us because we were
like shit, hey bro, what we gotto do to help you out, what we
got to do to goddamn make sureyou straight.

(20:53):
Because at the same time, sincehe couldn't drive shit if we
lived in augusta, shit, hey bro,we'll make sure you get to work
.
You need us to go do anything.
You need us to go help you withthe kids.
We need us to do.
We never judged about hissituation.
We were just there to help,even though we influenced, but
we were there to help.
We didn't tell nobody else whatthe hell he ain't going on.

(21:13):
Well hell, we might even liefor him a little bit.
Hey man, shit, the motherfuckerhad uh man he calling the shop
so he can't drive right now.
So I'm just giving him a rideto work.
But we ain't gotta tell himthat your license fucked up
because you were out drinkingand driving.
Because, because that's not ourstory to tell, it's not my place

(21:35):
to tell other motherfuckersthat are outside our circle
everything that goes on in ourcircle.
You get what I'm saying.
Everything that happens in our,in our situation is not
everybody's business, whathappens in our situation.
So this and that's my point ofview and that's my speculation
on the shit because let me tellyou something if I rock with you

(21:57):
and we out here doing dirt orwe got something going on, it
ain't for the world to know,even if we arguing, we bitching,
moaning this, that and thethird, and it's in, it's in,
it's in my relationship, itain't for other motherfuckers
outside to know what the fuck isgoing on in my household.
Because once you start tellingshit in my household, I can't

(22:18):
fuck with you no more.
I can't rock with you, no more,I can't trust you, no more.
Then that means you want to beone of these outside
motherfuckers that don't knowshit, like straight up, because
in my mind shit what happens inhouse stays in house.
I can't tell.
I can't tell on myself.
That's why I ride by myself,because I mean by the head

(22:41):
bangles had the best song.
I smoke by myself, I drink bymyself, I fuck these ho whole by
my goddamn self, for real, bymy goddamn self.
The reason why that's just sickso hard with us is because, hey
, I can't go fed on myself, so Iwanted to let y'all know.
Hey, keep letting niggas putthem dancing.

(23:03):
We out it's fold.
Step is only Peace.
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