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In this Special Episode, Nathaniel Heutmaker, gives a sneak peek behind the curtain of snippets that are to come in part two of the current of season 1. He gave this material to a friend of his as recording to help them with their own practice and research, mainly from the Nordic perspective, with other tidbits thrown in along the way.
What if you could align your mind, body, and soul to achieve true transformation? Discover the ancient secrets of rebirth rituals and initiation processes that promise profound personal growth and enlightenment. We delve into the physical and mental rigors required for rebirth, emphasizing the importance of a higher power and self-honesty. Learn how to align your thoughts, emotions, and actions to avoid cognitive dissonance and reshape your reality, with insights from the ancient Greek Trivium Method.
Ever wondered how ancient civilizations achieved spiritual enlightenment? Join us as we uncover the intricacies of ancient initiation rituals, from mock hangings to being buried alive, designed to activate both physical and mental states. Explore the significance of living in the present moment and the concept of true care, symbolized by a heart as light as a feather. We also reveal how astronomical events like the heliacal rising of Sirius and Venus are intricately connected to these rituals, guiding individuals toward enlightenment and deeper knowledge.
Embrace the wisdom of ancient mystery schools and cults with our exploration of initiation processes tied to equinoxes and solstices. Discover the powerful symbolism of the number three and its reflection of the journey from the underworld to resurrection. Learn about rhythmic dancing, chanting, fire ceremonies, and purging rituals, some involving narcotics, used to achieve spiritual enlightenment. Finally, gain valuable insights into the longer rebirth processes later in life, requiring deeper gnosis and offering profound transformation for those on the path to personal growth and enlightenment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It was really trying on their bodies for a lot of
stuff with it.
Imagine a mock hanging that youhad to go through with that, or
literally being buried aliveand the mental and physical
pressure that that's going toput onto your body and whatnot,
or making it so that way youhave to hold your breath
(00:21):
underwater for a certain amountof time in order to make that
happen.
So, to help with your notion ofdoing a rebirth ritual and
(01:01):
whatnot, there are certainthings I want to talk about that
people had to do beforehand,had to have an understanding of
things beforehand, as well asthemes that are brought up
between all of the traditions ofthe world that I'm aware of
that have done this particularnotion of things.
The very, very first thing thatyou have to do is that you have
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to know that there's a higherpower than yourself and whatnot.
Anybody who does not have thatdoes not get anything out of
this in any way, shape or form,and it becomes quite obvious
that they never get the benefitsof this if they don't have this
inner knowing and whatnot.
This is something youpersonally do not have to worry
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about, because obviously youalready believe in a higher
power and that kind of thingwith it.
So step one's already beenaccomplished for you,
congratulations.
I'm just letting you know thatthis is also technically part of
it for what's happening.
Atheists were not permitted topartake in these different
things and if they slept throughit, they never got anything
(02:08):
from it.
That was the consensus from allthe general groups and things
that I read about it.
Thing number two is you have tostop lying, especially to
yourself.
So if you want to have theritual, be the way that you want
it to be and go with it and dowell, you need to make it so.
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That way, you've agreed to stoplying in general about how
things are.
In other words, it's basicallyan alignment with reality what
you want, what's happening thatkind of thing with it, and
trying to figure out exactlywhat you want with it.
The reasoning behind doing soand being honest with the world
around you and other people, aswell as with yourself, is to
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make it so that way.
I didn't get what I wanted tofrom this last year or from the
previous life that I had beforeI decided to go through this
ritual and whatnot.
But I need something better tocome out of this.
I need something with that andyou have to be honest with
yourself about what went wrongas well as what you intend to
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get instead or what you'rehoping to get instead from it,
and move towards with that andthat kind of thing with it.
So that's another thing thatneeds to be done here with it.
The next thing is to stopdreaming.
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There's different variations ofwhat this means, but in modern
terms, this is cognitivedissonance.
There's different variations ofwhat this means, but in modern
terms, this is cognitivedissonance.
This is where you say one thingbut do another, and so there
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could be something that's goingon that makes it so that way.
You say one thing and doanother.
And a perfect example of thisfor you personally would be when
you're a pagan, you are aheathen and whatnot.
You know that there are certainthings you believe in and that
kind of stuff, and then youtalked about a guy who came and
blessed you for one of thefights that was Christian with
the cross, and then that with it, do with it and then taking up
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something that is not good foryou and what you believe in and
whatnot.
That action could be whatcauses all the stuff with your
fights specifically, uh, to goon with it.
I'm not saying it is the case.
That's something for you todeep dive personally and be
honest about.
Like we talked about in thesecond step uh, here for what's
going on.
But you, that's a version ofcognitive dissonance for what's
happening, where you have onething and say you leave all
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these things over here and doanother.
You're causing a dichotomywithin yourself and it gives you
the results that you don't want.
So, to add to this, there arethree parts of ourselves that we
have to understand, which theNorse myths fit perfectly for
this.
There's our thoughts, ouremotions and our actions.
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All three of these need to bein alignment in order to make
that happen, which is why youhave to stop lying to yourself.
You have to stop having thedreaming, the cognitive
dissonance that we have, inorder for all these to actually
get into what you need to bedone with it here.
All right, and this helps withthe rebirth process to make it
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so.
That way, you're very clearabout what you want.
So that way, you're sheddingthe old life like a snake would
and whatnot, in terms of gettingrid of its excess skin and
being reborn into something elsewith it.
Right, and that's what you needto have for that.
That's the next step of things.
All right, now.
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Another part of occultinitiation, in terms of this
death ritual and mock deathritual and whatnot is you need
to learn how to think.
Now, obviously, what you talkedabout with the child and all
that it's a different story andthat kind of stuff.
This is as an adult, where wehave more control over things
with it and whatnot.
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Now, this is called the TriviumMethod in the ancient Greek
traditions and whatnot.
But basically, if you want toput it in modern terms, you've
got input, meaning where yourinformation is coming from.
You've got the processing stage, which is where you try to weed
out the logical inconsistencies, and then you have the output.
All right, with this outputstage.
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With it, this creates our world, and if you have, every person
goes through these stages ofthings as they get older and
whatnot, and that makes it sothat way, their entire world is
created this particular way, andso it all starts with the
information, which is whytyrants of every age target the
first stage of things withcensorship, because if they make
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that happen, they've alreadyproduced the outcome that they
want from the get-go and thatkind of stuff.
How we use this for ourparticular stuff here, though,
in order to go through thisinitiation, to go through this
rebirth ritual and whatnot, isto make it so.
That way, we weed out anylogical inconsistencies about
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the stuff that we say that wedon't want anymore and what we
do want, and make sure thatthere isn't anything.
We stop the cognitivedissonance between the two.
We make sure everything is inalignment beforehand, doing all
these steps ahead of time, aswell as believing in higher
powers, basically purgingourselves of all the BS that
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happened to it on us in a mentalstate beforehand, and we're
going through an entire processof doing so that needs to be
done for that.
So then the next stage ofthings is you've got to live in
the present moment.
So the more you can live in thepresent moment, the less the
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past can deal with it andwhatnot, and the less you
project the past into the future, for what's going on here now.
Obviously we need to use it fortechnical knowledge, say, like
how to drive a car as an example.
I pick up that, but the momentI've stopped driving a car, I'm
not thinking about driving a caranymore and I don't need that
knowledge anymore.
That's sitting there with it.
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That's not what I'm talkingabout here.
We're talking about knowledge.
It was really trying on theirbodies for a lot of stuff with
it.
Imagine a mock hanging that youhad to go through with that, or
literally being buried alive andthe mental and physical
pressure that that's going toput onto your body and whatnot,
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or making it so that way youhave to hold your breath
underwater for a certain amountof time in order to make that
happen.
Birth and whatnot.
If you do not commit to themoment and go through these
other things properly, asdiscussed, you will not make it
so.
That way, you do what needs tobe done and whatnot, and you
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might get mixed results from itor no results whatsoever.
Typically, you won't getnegative results if you do it in
good faith, which obviously Iknow you intend to do.
That's just how it plays outfor that.
And then the next step is thatyou need to have the physical
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body activated and these typesof rituals and whatnot, at least
in ancient time periods I don'tknow how much it was in modern
time periods or what it is, ifthey're still even being
practiced in the real way thatour ancient forebearers actually
did and whatnot way that ourancient forebearers actually did
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and whatnot they needed to makeit so that way.
There it was really trying ontheir bodies for a lot of stuff
with it.
Imagine them a mock hanging,that you had to go through uh
with that, or literally beingburied, uh, alive, and the
mental and physical pressurethat's going to put um onto your
body and whatnot.
Or making it so that way, youhave to hold your breath
(10:10):
underwater for a certain amountof time in order to make that
happen.
And then I will tell you my ownpersonal stuff a little later,
in terms of stuff that I'll sendto you in a different format
rather than record it this way,and whatnot that you can read if
you're interested in of my own,you know, type of rebirth that
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occurred through going through aritual like this.
So that's stuff that's on thatparticular front.
All of these things need to bedone with that.
A hidden step that's above allof these different steps and
whatnot.
And behind all of thesedifferent steps is what I call
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true care.
Behind all these differentsteps is what I call true care,
and that's where you have toreally truly be behind the
notion of everything, reallygiving your heart, soul, spirit,
whatever you want to call itinto it.
Imagine the good imagery ofthis is.
You need to have your heart aslight as a feather, with, like
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Anubis, holding the scales up,and what I know it's not, you
know, peg, it's.
I know that it's not norsepaganism, but that that imagery
of your consciousness being thatlight you need to have in order
for this to be as successful asas possible, um, and and as
plausible for and to have themost benefits and the effects
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that were going on with this andwhatnot.
This is actually what I'mworking on right now is a book
that has to do with all thisstuff on it.
It's very similar to the hero'sjourney that Joseph Campbell
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did, except I'm calling it theinitiate's journey, and I have
my own version of things thatI'm working on towards with it,
and a lot of the stuff that I'mdoing is about this, and I'm
hoping to have the book come outsometime March or April of this
next year and whatnot.
So a lot of this stuff is tyingin with this right now.
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For what's going on.
Anyway, there are otherimportant aspects and themes
that are going on with all this.
It's not just about goingthrough the hole that you
pointed out, or going into thewater, or even the purging of
everything that we've talkedabout here and making sure
everything's good, uh, the waythat it needs to be done.
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In terms of that, there's othersymbolic acts that you can do,
uh, ahead of time.
All those things are good, likewith the dolmens that you
brought up.
Um, none of that.
I'm detracting from all that istrue, all that's valid, all
that's other stuff.
I'm giving other layers ofthemes here in this next section
to give food for thought forwhat's going on.
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A lot of these rituals were tiedalso to the heliacal rising of
either Sirius or the heliacalrising of Venus and whatnot.
Both have to do withenlightenment and knowledge and
things of this particular natureand various different pagan and
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occult traditions for where itcomes from and makes it so.
That way you have illuminationthat goes along with this.
Also, most of these rituals interms of isolating yourself and
burying yourself alive andwhatnot, and all that aren't
supposed to just be done on oneparticular day.
It's supposed to be a minimumof three days and a lot of times
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up to nine days.
For what's going on?
Maria and her work on the maidenwith the mead and a temple at
Uppsala and that kind of stuff,with there being some sort of
mystery, cult, tradition andkind of a rebirth notion and
idea, and that kind of stuffdovetails perfectly with my
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research.
I thought these traditions diedout, at least in terms of
Northern Africa, europe and Asia, with the exception of India,
of course, and maybe certainpockets of China, but for the
most part had died out in aboutthe year 500 AD or so.
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It is quite clear after readingher work and knowing the
differences of things with meand myself for what's going on
here and my own research andstuff with it, that these
traditions continued onward inEurope through the Viking Age
and it was done with the Maiden,with the Mead Um, and it was
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done with the maiden, with themead uh, as it's called, and
whatnot, um.
And so just put that out therefor whatever that's worth to you
Maybe nothing, maybe everything, for what's going on to add uh
to these things with it.
Typically, uh, north and Eastis the direction in which you
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want to be facing.
In almost all the traditionsthat there are in the world it
is associated with uh,illumination and enlightenment
and um, a spiritual rejuvenation.
Uh, from the occult standpoint,once again, um, every single
one of them has to do withsomething with the earth and the
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underworld and, um, what or andor.
Water, which also representstransformation and reflection,
and all these other things thatgo along with that.
Um, each culture has their ownvariation of this.
You have the pyramid texts forancient Egypt.
You have some of theinitiations and rituals in the
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poetic edda that have survived,that go on with things with it.
That, again, she's touched onMaria has touched on quite a bit
.
You have various differentthings that show up in the
Celtic traditions.
Whatever the point is, it's allover the world and each has
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their own variation of thingswith it.
But it's a sh to kind of showyou some of the stuff, at least
in its original form.
I'm not talking about what it'sbecome now.
I don't know.
I'm not part of the Masonictemples in the New Age of Reform
, um, but they have their ownrituals that survived through
the Templars and all the way upthrough stuff with it.
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And one of them has to do withHiram Abiff, who is a fake
mythological figure that's justthere for allegorical purposes,
and his name, literally, if youbreak it down, hiram Above.
And I'm bringing this upbecause, literally, if you break
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it down, high ram above and I'mbringing this up because this
is where the Yule Book comes in,and the traditions that are
with that, and goatsrepresenting reincarnation and
rebirth, also having to do withthe sign of Sagittarius and
Capricorn and whatnot, andthat's where all these type of
things come together, beingpulled from it.
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It's also part of the Norsetraditions, as you very much
know, and so here's anotheraspect that's playing out with
that.
You can see this everywhere andall the traditions for it, and
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they would go most of theseplaces that were these rituals
to partook, including thedolmens, including the hypogeum,
including the pyramid, thegreat pyramid and whatnot, the
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burial mounds, whatever.
This was sometimes referred toas the bridal chamber, okay, and
so that gives us a lot of hintsfor things.
Already you have Odin, who isthe spirit, and he is trying to
seek out Freya, slash Frigg,depending upon you know which
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one you want to look at, andwhatnot.
Even Idun, because all of thefemale Disir come together into
one and they all haverepresentation of things with it
, and so you are awakening yourpersonal Norn, your Bakaria,
your Fugia, fugia.
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Excuse me for what's going onwith it by doing so, excuse me
for what's going on with it.
By doing so and you are makingit so that way, you are having a
true rebirth experience towhere you're not having your
personal Norn.
Make it so that way it weavesrandom fates for you.
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You're making it so that way.
It's weaving random fates foryou.
You're making it so that wayit's weaving active fates for
you, and that things are goingon in a particular point of view
for what's happening.
And part of how we can do thisin a not just realistic sense,
but also in a real-world sense,is nature is a far better
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planner than you and I oranybody else will be, and we
just have to figure out what westand for, what we actually
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truly to choose the best andmost important course of action
for us in any given moment.
So if we have a North Star,let's say something we believe
in, whatever that is, and we gotowards that.
It doesn't matter which way theriver bends and turns and what
fate throws at us.
We make it so that way we havethe best, if we choose the best
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option for us.
If it's like a river, mostpeople they're a river that
doesn't have a rudder, becausethey don't know where they're
going, what they're doing, sothey crash into everything and
they have to take whatever lifethrows into us.
But if you go through thisprocess of stop lying to
yourself, stopping the cognitivedissonance, understanding how
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to think and where to get stuff,living in the present moment,
believing in a higher power,having our activated physical
body and whatnot, going throughthis ritualistic thing of it and
making sure that we choose thebest course of action for us
based upon what our higherprinciples and beliefs are every
step of the way with it, thenwe will be able to navigate the
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river of life, no matter what itthrows at us, and we will
choose the very best possiblecourse of action for ourselves
which makes it so.
That way, we will live the verybest possible lives for
ourselves.
This is the wisdom that's hiddeninside of the ancient mystery
school traditions and ancientcults and whatnot that are there
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for that, are there for thatand I know kind of going all
over the place with this here,but I'm trying to bring up
everything that's going on withit here and another time period
that a lot of places did it wereactually done also on the
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equinoxes, that they would dothis for, not just the solstices
, marrying yourself, and thatyou're getting in touch with
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your, with your soul, andletting it do things for you and
whatnot, and connecting with itdirectly.
There's actually multipledifferent levels of doing this
type of stuff, and the deeperyou go into it, the more that
you get out of it.
And most of the traditions havethree steps that they have to
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go through, minimum, in order todo that.
And the final one is where youget to the level of like Autor
and seeing everything inside ofit, knowing your lineage,
knowing who you are, coming backwith the mead and all that
other stuff, and basicallyconquering death itself.
Uh, on a spiritual level atleast.
Uh, and whatnot.
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Now, I know that's not whatyou're looking for, but the
process of initiation is thesame and maybe you'll get
something more um from it.
Uh, with that, I can tell youthat when I and I didn't
understand it all the time causeI didn't that when I and I
didn't understand it all thetime because I didn't, I hadn't
done the research for it, and Istill have a lot of
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understanding.
I need to go through with this,but you know, I had an outer
body experience when I wentthrough this type of stuff with
it, and that's all I'm going tosay in this particular recording
.
If you're interested in more onthat particular front for it,
I'm more than happy to go intothat with you personally and
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that kind of thing.
Yeah, I think that's all that Ineed to go into.
If you have any questions,comments or concerns about um
what?
I went the night time with itand it was made so that way they
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would get up just before thesunrise and they would make it
so that way they would seeSirius or Venus if they were
doing stuff with those things,and they would witness it right
before the sun rose and thenthey would see the sunrise for
what was going on, kind of as apurging of everything with it,
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and the night being theunderworld part and the day
being the resurrection coming up, through everything with that.
I think the three days isimportant too.
It fits 100% with the sun onthe cross for what it is in the
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sky and whatnot, and it doesn'tgo anywhere and it looks like
it's dead for three days andthen it starts rising up again
on an astrotheologicalstandpoint for stuff with it,
when you're using astronomy, andI think that that's the
important part for it.
I think that's why there's alsothree degrees that they did for
it.
Three by three equals a nine.
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So three degrees and three daysfor what's going on equals the
nine days that need to be donewith it, which gives us the nine
days that they've done in othertraditions, especially the
Eleusian mysteries, for what'sgoing on With that.
Most traditions they took somesort of drug or narcotic or
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things of this nature in orderto make it happen.
There's lots of traditions thatdon't do that, of course, too,
and there's other rituals thatlead up to it that have to do
with purging and stuff with it.
There's some rhythmic dancingthat helps get you in the
present moment, or chanting, orsome sort of fire ceremony
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that's done with things with it,using to purge things away and
kind of destroy everythingthat's going on with it going in
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to the ocean, getting in thefetus position, fetal position
and just letting it do stuff fora little bit and whatnot, or
burying yourself in the sand fora little bit or any of those
other things with it.
Again, if you're trying to curea child of these things, like
you mentioned, that's acompletely different thing, or
the child is in a separatecategory of things with it.
We are talking about a rebirthritual when you are older and
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whatnot, and it takes longer toreset your mind, so to speak,
and and whatnot.
There's much more to it.
There's much higher levels ofgnosis that need to be, that
need to be represented and thatkind of thing, and this is where
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I'll leave off with that, ifyou have any questions.
This is getting longer than Ianticipated it would be.
I hope this is helpful, thatyou can take kernels of truth
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and wisdom from it and make itso that way you gain something
from this and what not, and thatit is a boon in your quest for
doing things.
Thank you.
It was really trying on their bodies for a lot of
stuff with it.
Imagine a mock hanging that youhad to go through with that, or
literally being buried aliveand the mental and physical
pressure that that's going toput onto your body and whatnot,
or making it so that way youhave to hold your breath
(00:21):
underwater for a certain amountof time in order to make that
happen.
So, to help with your notion ofdoing a rebirth ritual and
(01:01):
whatnot, there are certainthings I want to talk about that
people had to do beforehand,had to have an understanding of
things beforehand, as well asthemes that are brought up
between all of the traditions ofthe world that I'm aware of
that have done this particularnotion of things.
The very, very first thing thatyou have to do is that you have
(01:25):
to know that there's a higherpower than yourself and whatnot.
Anybody who does not have thatdoes not get anything out of
this in any way, shape or form,and it becomes quite obvious
that they never get the benefitsof this if they don't have this
inner knowing and whatnot.
This is something youpersonally do not have to worry
(01:47):
about, because obviously youalready believe in a higher
power and that kind of thingwith it.
So step one's already beenaccomplished for you,
congratulations.
I'm just letting you know thatthis is also technically part of
it for what's happening.
Atheists were not permitted topartake in these different
things and if they slept throughit, they never got anything
(02:08):
from it.
That was the consensus from allthe general groups and things
that I read about it.
Thing number two is you have tostop lying, especially to
yourself.
So if you want to have theritual, be the way that you want
it to be and go with it and dowell, you need to make it so.
(02:34):
That way, you've agreed to stoplying in general about how
things are.
In other words, it's basicallyan alignment with reality what
you want, what's happening thatkind of thing with it, and
trying to figure out exactlywhat you want with it.
The reasoning behind doing soand being honest with the world
around you and other people, aswell as with yourself, is to
(02:56):
make it so that way.
I didn't get what I wanted tofrom this last year or from the
previous life that I had beforeI decided to go through this
ritual and whatnot.
But I need something better tocome out of this.
I need something with that andyou have to be honest with
yourself about what went wrongas well as what you intend to
(03:18):
get instead or what you'rehoping to get instead from it,
and move towards with that andthat kind of thing with it.
So that's another thing thatneeds to be done here with it.
The next thing is to stopdreaming.
(03:40):
There's different variations ofwhat this means, but in modern
terms, this is cognitivedissonance.
There's different variations ofwhat this means, but in modern
terms, this is cognitivedissonance.
This is where you say one thingbut do another, and so there
(04:00):
could be something that's goingon that makes it so that way.
You say one thing and doanother.
And a perfect example of thisfor you personally would be when
you're a pagan, you are aheathen and whatnot.
You know that there are certainthings you believe in and that
kind of stuff, and then youtalked about a guy who came and
blessed you for one of thefights that was Christian with
the cross, and then that with it, do with it and then taking up
(04:26):
something that is not good foryou and what you believe in and
whatnot.
That action could be whatcauses all the stuff with your
fights specifically, uh, to goon with it.
I'm not saying it is the case.
That's something for you todeep dive personally and be
honest about.
Like we talked about in thesecond step uh, here for what's
going on.
But you, that's a version ofcognitive dissonance for what's
happening, where you have onething and say you leave all
(04:48):
these things over here and doanother.
You're causing a dichotomywithin yourself and it gives you
the results that you don't want.
So, to add to this, there arethree parts of ourselves that we
have to understand, which theNorse myths fit perfectly for
this.
There's our thoughts, ouremotions and our actions.
(05:10):
All three of these need to bein alignment in order to make
that happen, which is why youhave to stop lying to yourself.
You have to stop having thedreaming, the cognitive
dissonance that we have, inorder for all these to actually
get into what you need to bedone with it here.
All right, and this helps withthe rebirth process to make it
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so.
That way, you're very clearabout what you want.
So that way, you're sheddingthe old life like a snake would
and whatnot, in terms of gettingrid of its excess skin and
being reborn into something elsewith it.
Right, and that's what you needto have for that.
That's the next step of things.
All right, now.
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Another part of occultinitiation, in terms of this
death ritual and mock deathritual and whatnot is you need
to learn how to think.
Now, obviously, what you talkedabout with the child and all
that it's a different story andthat kind of stuff.
This is as an adult, where wehave more control over things
with it and whatnot.
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Now, this is called the TriviumMethod in the ancient Greek
traditions and whatnot.
But basically, if you want toput it in modern terms, you've
got input, meaning where yourinformation is coming from.
You've got the processing stage, which is where you try to weed
out the logical inconsistencies, and then you have the output.
All right, with this outputstage.
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With it, this creates our world, and if you have, every person
goes through these stages ofthings as they get older and
whatnot, and that makes it sothat way, their entire world is
created this particular way, andso it all starts with the
information, which is whytyrants of every age target the
first stage of things withcensorship, because if they make
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that happen, they've alreadyproduced the outcome that they
want from the get-go and thatkind of stuff.
How we use this for ourparticular stuff here, though,
in order to go through thisinitiation, to go through this
rebirth ritual and whatnot, isto make it so.
That way, we weed out anylogical inconsistencies about
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the stuff that we say that wedon't want anymore and what we
do want, and make sure thatthere isn't anything.
We stop the cognitivedissonance between the two.
We make sure everything is inalignment beforehand, doing all
these steps ahead of time, aswell as believing in higher
powers, basically purgingourselves of all the BS that
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happened to it on us in a mentalstate beforehand, and we're
going through an entire processof doing so that needs to be
done for that.
So then the next stage ofthings is you've got to live in
the present moment.
So the more you can live in thepresent moment, the less the
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past can deal with it andwhatnot, and the less you
project the past into the future, for what's going on here now.
Obviously we need to use it fortechnical knowledge, say, like
how to drive a car as an example.
I pick up that, but the momentI've stopped driving a car, I'm
not thinking about driving a caranymore and I don't need that
knowledge anymore.
That's sitting there with it.
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That's not what I'm talkingabout here.
We're talking about knowledge.
It was really trying on theirbodies for a lot of stuff with
it.
Imagine a mock hanging that youhad to go through with that, or
literally being buried alive andthe mental and physical
pressure that that's going toput onto your body and whatnot,
(08:41):
or making it so that way youhave to hold your breath
underwater for a certain amountof time in order to make that
happen.
Birth and whatnot.
If you do not commit to themoment and go through these
other things properly, asdiscussed, you will not make it
so.
That way, you do what needs tobe done and whatnot, and you
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might get mixed results from itor no results whatsoever.
Typically, you won't getnegative results if you do it in
good faith, which obviously Iknow you intend to do.
That's just how it plays outfor that.
And then the next step is thatyou need to have the physical
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body activated and these typesof rituals and whatnot, at least
in ancient time periods I don'tknow how much it was in modern
time periods or what it is, ifthey're still even being
practiced in the real way thatour ancient forebearers actually
did and whatnot way that ourancient forebearers actually did
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and whatnot they needed to makeit so that way.
There it was really trying ontheir bodies for a lot of stuff
with it.
Imagine them a mock hanging,that you had to go through uh
with that, or literally beingburied, uh, alive, and the
mental and physical pressurethat's going to put um onto your
body and whatnot.
Or making it so that way, youhave to hold your breath
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underwater for a certain amountof time in order to make that
happen.
And then I will tell you my ownpersonal stuff a little later,
in terms of stuff that I'll sendto you in a different format
rather than record it this way,and whatnot that you can read if
you're interested in of my own,you know, type of rebirth that
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occurred through going through aritual like this.
So that's stuff that's on thatparticular front.
All of these things need to bedone with that.
A hidden step that's above allof these different steps and
whatnot.
And behind all of thesedifferent steps is what I call
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true care.
Behind all these differentsteps is what I call true care,
and that's where you have toreally truly be behind the
notion of everything, reallygiving your heart, soul, spirit,
whatever you want to call itinto it.
Imagine the good imagery ofthis is.
You need to have your heart aslight as a feather, with, like
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Anubis, holding the scales up,and what I know it's not, you
know, peg, it's.
I know that it's not norsepaganism, but that that imagery
of your consciousness being thatlight you need to have in order
for this to be as successful asas possible, um, and and as
plausible for and to have themost benefits and the effects
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that were going on with this andwhatnot.
This is actually what I'mworking on right now is a book
that has to do with all thisstuff on it.
It's very similar to the hero'sjourney that Joseph Campbell
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did, except I'm calling it theinitiate's journey, and I have
my own version of things thatI'm working on towards with it,
and a lot of the stuff that I'mdoing is about this, and I'm
hoping to have the book come outsometime March or April of this
next year and whatnot.
So a lot of this stuff is tyingin with this right now.
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For what's going on.
Anyway, there are otherimportant aspects and themes
that are going on with all this.
It's not just about goingthrough the hole that you
pointed out, or going into thewater, or even the purging of
everything that we've talkedabout here and making sure
everything's good, uh, the waythat it needs to be done.
(12:39):
In terms of that, there's othersymbolic acts that you can do,
uh, ahead of time.
All those things are good, likewith the dolmens that you
brought up.
Um, none of that.
I'm detracting from all that istrue, all that's valid, all
that's other stuff.
I'm giving other layers ofthemes here in this next section
to give food for thought forwhat's going on.
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A lot of these rituals were tiedalso to the heliacal rising of
either Sirius or the heliacalrising of Venus and whatnot.
Both have to do withenlightenment and knowledge and
things of this particular natureand various different pagan and
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occult traditions for where itcomes from and makes it so.
That way you have illuminationthat goes along with this.
Also, most of these rituals interms of isolating yourself and
burying yourself alive andwhatnot, and all that aren't
supposed to just be done on oneparticular day.
It's supposed to be a minimumof three days and a lot of times
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up to nine days.
For what's going on?
Maria and her work on the maidenwith the mead and a temple at
Uppsala and that kind of stuff,with there being some sort of
mystery, cult, tradition andkind of a rebirth notion and
idea, and that kind of stuffdovetails perfectly with my
(14:08):
research.
I thought these traditions diedout, at least in terms of
Northern Africa, europe and Asia, with the exception of India,
of course, and maybe certainpockets of China, but for the
most part had died out in aboutthe year 500 AD or so.
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It is quite clear after readingher work and knowing the
differences of things with meand myself for what's going on
here and my own research andstuff with it, that these
traditions continued onward inEurope through the Viking Age
and it was done with the Maiden,with the Mead Um, and it was
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done with the maiden, with themead uh, as it's called, and
whatnot, um.
And so just put that out therefor whatever that's worth to you
Maybe nothing, maybe everything, for what's going on to add uh
to these things with it.
Typically, uh, north and Eastis the direction in which you
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want to be facing.
In almost all the traditionsthat there are in the world it
is associated with uh,illumination and enlightenment
and um, a spiritual rejuvenation.
Uh, from the occult standpoint,once again, um, every single
one of them has to do withsomething with the earth and the
(15:38):
underworld and, um, what or andor.
Water, which also representstransformation and reflection,
and all these other things thatgo along with that.
Um, each culture has their ownvariation of this.
You have the pyramid texts forancient Egypt.
You have some of theinitiations and rituals in the
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poetic edda that have survived,that go on with things with it.
That, again, she's touched onMaria has touched on quite a bit
.
You have various differentthings that show up in the
Celtic traditions.
Whatever the point is, it's allover the world and each has
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their own variation of thingswith it.
But it's a sh to kind of showyou some of the stuff, at least
in its original form.
I'm not talking about what it'sbecome now.
I don't know.
I'm not part of the Masonictemples in the New Age of Reform
, um, but they have their ownrituals that survived through
the Templars and all the way upthrough stuff with it.
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And one of them has to do withHiram Abiff, who is a fake
mythological figure that's justthere for allegorical purposes,
and his name, literally, if youbreak it down, hiram Above.
And I'm bringing this upbecause, literally, if you break
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it down, high ram above and I'mbringing this up because this
is where the Yule Book comes in,and the traditions that are
with that, and goatsrepresenting reincarnation and
rebirth, also having to do withthe sign of Sagittarius and
Capricorn and whatnot, andthat's where all these type of
things come together, beingpulled from it.
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It's also part of the Norsetraditions, as you very much
know, and so here's anotheraspect that's playing out with
that.
You can see this everywhere andall the traditions for it, and
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they would go most of theseplaces that were these rituals
to partook, including thedolmens, including the hypogeum,
including the pyramid, thegreat pyramid and whatnot, the
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burial mounds, whatever.
This was sometimes referred toas the bridal chamber, okay, and
so that gives us a lot of hintsfor things.
Already you have Odin, who isthe spirit, and he is trying to
seek out Freya, slash Frigg,depending upon you know which
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one you want to look at, andwhatnot.
Even Idun, because all of thefemale Disir come together into
one and they all haverepresentation of things with it
, and so you are awakening yourpersonal Norn, your Bakaria,
your Fugia, fugia.
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Excuse me for what's going onwith it by doing so, excuse me
for what's going on with it.
By doing so and you are makingit so that way, you are having a
true rebirth experience towhere you're not having your
personal Norn.
Make it so that way it weavesrandom fates for you.
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You're making it so that way.
It's weaving random fates foryou.
You're making it so that wayit's weaving active fates for
you, and that things are goingon in a particular point of view
for what's happening.
And part of how we can do thisin a not just realistic sense,
but also in a real-world sense,is nature is a far better
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planner than you and I oranybody else will be, and we
just have to figure out what westand for, what we actually
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truly to choose the best andmost important course of action
for us in any given moment.
So if we have a North Star,let's say something we believe
in, whatever that is, and we gotowards that.
It doesn't matter which way theriver bends and turns and what
fate throws at us.
We make it so that way we havethe best, if we choose the best
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option for us.
If it's like a river, mostpeople they're a river that
doesn't have a rudder, becausethey don't know where they're
going, what they're doing, sothey crash into everything and
they have to take whatever lifethrows into us.
But if you go through thisprocess of stop lying to
yourself, stopping the cognitivedissonance, understanding how
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to think and where to get stuff,living in the present moment,
believing in a higher power,having our activated physical
body and whatnot, going throughthis ritualistic thing of it and
making sure that we choose thebest course of action for us
based upon what our higherprinciples and beliefs are every
step of the way with it, thenwe will be able to navigate the
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river of life, no matter what itthrows at us, and we will
choose the very best possiblecourse of action for ourselves
which makes it so.
That way, we will live the verybest possible lives for
ourselves.
This is the wisdom that's hiddeninside of the ancient mystery
school traditions and ancientcults and whatnot that are there
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for that, are there for thatand I know kind of going all
over the place with this here,but I'm trying to bring up
everything that's going on withit here and another time period
that a lot of places did it wereactually done also on the
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equinoxes, that they would dothis for, not just the solstices
, marrying yourself, and thatyou're getting in touch with
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your, with your soul, andletting it do things for you and
whatnot, and connecting with itdirectly.
There's actually multipledifferent levels of doing this
type of stuff, and the deeperyou go into it, the more that
you get out of it.
And most of the traditions havethree steps that they have to
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go through, minimum, in order todo that.
And the final one is where youget to the level of like Autor
and seeing everything inside ofit, knowing your lineage,
knowing who you are, coming backwith the mead and all that
other stuff, and basicallyconquering death itself.
Uh, on a spiritual level atleast.
Uh, and whatnot.
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Now, I know that's not whatyou're looking for, but the
process of initiation is thesame and maybe you'll get
something more um from it.
Uh, with that, I can tell youthat when I and I didn't
understand it all the time causeI didn't that when I and I
didn't understand it all thetime because I didn't, I hadn't
done the research for it, and Istill have a lot of
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understanding.
I need to go through with this,but you know, I had an outer
body experience when I wentthrough this type of stuff with
it, and that's all I'm going tosay in this particular recording
.
If you're interested in more onthat particular front for it,
I'm more than happy to go intothat with you personally and
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that kind of thing.
Yeah, I think that's all that Ineed to go into.
If you have any questions,comments or concerns about um
what?
I went the night time with itand it was made so that way they
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would get up just before thesunrise and they would make it
so that way they would seeSirius or Venus if they were
doing stuff with those things,and they would witness it right
before the sun rose and thenthey would see the sunrise for
what was going on, kind of as apurging of everything with it,
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and the night being theunderworld part and the day
being the resurrection coming up, through everything with that.
I think the three days isimportant too.
It fits 100% with the sun onthe cross for what it is in the
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sky and whatnot, and it doesn'tgo anywhere and it looks like
it's dead for three days andthen it starts rising up again
on an astrotheologicalstandpoint for stuff with it,
when you're using astronomy, andI think that that's the
important part for it.
I think that's why there's alsothree degrees that they did for
it.
Three by three equals a nine.
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So three degrees and three daysfor what's going on equals the
nine days that need to be donewith it, which gives us the nine
days that they've done in othertraditions, especially the
Eleusian mysteries, for what'sgoing on With that.
Most traditions they took somesort of drug or narcotic or
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things of this nature in orderto make it happen.
There's lots of traditions thatdon't do that, of course, too,
and there's other rituals thatlead up to it that have to do
with purging and stuff with it.
There's some rhythmic dancingthat helps get you in the
present moment, or chanting, orsome sort of fire ceremony
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that's done with things with it,using to purge things away and
kind of destroy everythingthat's going on with it going in
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to the ocean, getting in thefetus position, fetal position
and just letting it do stuff fora little bit and whatnot, or
burying yourself in the sand fora little bit or any of those
other things with it.
Again, if you're trying to curea child of these things, like
you mentioned, that's acompletely different thing, or
the child is in a separatecategory of things with it.
We are talking about a rebirthritual when you are older and
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whatnot, and it takes longer toreset your mind, so to speak,
and and whatnot.
There's much more to it.
There's much higher levels ofgnosis that need to be, that
need to be represented and thatkind of thing, and this is where
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I'll leave off with that, ifyou have any questions.
This is getting longer than Ianticipated it would be.
I hope this is helpful, thatyou can take kernels of truth
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and wisdom from it and make itso that way you gain something
from this and what not, and thatit is a boon in your quest for
doing things.
Thank you.
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