October 31, 2024 • 30 mins
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Unlock the secrets of Arthurian legend with me, Nathaniel Heutmaker, as we embark on a journey unlike any other. What if these ancient tales hold the keys to personal transformation and deeper understanding of our world? From the esoteric depths of "Parzival" by Wolfram von Eschenbach to the mystical links with Kabbalah, Tarot, and alchemy, this season promises a treasure trove of insights. Together, we'll navigate the rich tapestry of Arthurian myths, unveiling their connections to Celtic, Gaelic, and Nordic traditions, while challenging conventional interpretations of the Holy Grail. This is not a lecture but a shared exploration, an invitation to question, learn, and grow.
Our quest begins on Halloween with a fresh approach to these timeless narratives. Through engaging audio and new video content, we will delve into the symbolism of ancient traditions, seeking wisdom that resonates with today's complexities. Utilizing the Trivium Method, we'll cultivate critical thinking and open-mindedness as we analyze figures like Merlin and Guinevere, seeking their true significance. Join me for a season of discovery, where scholarly works meet alternative viewpoints, and where the myths of old enlighten the stories of our lives. This is Forbidden Knowledge—a guide to understanding the past and transforming the present.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And welcome back to the Forbidden Knowledge podcast.
As you can see, we're doingvideo for the first time and
we've set up a kind of a studiospace in order to make this
better for what's going on there.
My name is Nathaniel Hoitmacherand I am the show's host.
More than a month and a halfago, I announced that I was
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going to be starting a newseason, and the new season that
I would be starting would be onArthurian myth and tradition,
and that is exactly what Iintend to do.
I had also originally statedthat I was going to be doing it
in the middle of October.
Unfortunately, that did notcome to fruition.
I got sick.
I still have some of thesymptoms.
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I'm a little congested, alittle bit with throat stuff.
Still, you might be able tohear it in my voice.
Even I'm trying to make it sothat way.
I'm keeping my promise of doingit in October, and so I'm
recording here on Halloween forwhat's going on, at least here
in America, for what it is onOctober 31st.
So what to expect from thisparticular episode and from the
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podcast going forward andwhatnot, is that it will have
video for it.
It'll still have the exact samestuff when it comes to anything
related to things that arehappening on the audio.
So it'll still be for Apple,it'll still be for Spotify,
it'll still be for any of theother platforms that I have
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already up there for it.
Nothing's going to be changingon that.
Video is just now going to beadded to it On top of this last
season.
I was doing more of a kind of alecture style thing with it
where I went on topic, kind of alecture style thing with it
where I went on topic.
I just kind of pre-recorded it,talked to you, gave information
for what was going on on thisparticular season.
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What I'm going to be doing isI'm going to be going in and I'm
going to be making it so thatway I talk more with you, I take
a journey with you.
So to instead of just tellingyou what I already know, I chose
Arthurian myth and traditionspecifically because I don't
know anything about it.
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I haven't read the primarysources.
I've hardly at all.
I've.
Just I did a little bit overthe last six, seven weeks here.
I don't really know much interms of secondary sources, in
terms of other people's opinionson it and whatnot.
I've done that on purpose,because I want to make it so
that way for the most part.
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I'm having a fresh start, goingon with you on the journey to
discover what there is, to seewhat there is.
That's there making it so.
That way it's more of a processof discovery for what's going
on, and so I will be pullingfrom as many different things
that there are with it.
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I'm going to be reading duringthis time period, I'm going to
be taking lots of notes, I'mgoing to be making it so.
That way I kind of showcase myability to research.
I'm going to be doing this insemi real time in the beginning.
Hopefully, a little later on,when I become more tech savvy, I
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will be doing some sort ofstreaming stuff with it too, to
make it so that way it'sactually in real time for what's
going on there, what's going onthere as well.
And right now, the basic gameplan for all of this is just to
pull from as many differentsources as possible.
So I have one of them here thatI'll just show as an example.
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This is Parsifal by Wolfram vonAschenbach, and there are
plenty of other ones that I'mdoing with it that are going to
be done that way.
We're going to be covering allof the various different notions
of things with it.
I'm going to be looking intoall the different threads that
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come together to make it so thatway we can learn more about
these particular things that'sgoing on with it.
We're going to be looking atthe Holy Grail and the various
different possible meanings thatit could be with it.
You know some people are goingto use it from a Christian
interpretation and from the LastSupper.
Others are going to make it sothat way.
It's more of a hereticalunderstanding of things with
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that in terms of, you know,maybe a potential bloodline
that's going on there, that'shidden inside of it.
There's also just the spiritualillumination part of it that
goes along with that and many,many other theories that are out
there.
We're going to be looking intoall of that as well.
Currently, what I already seeinside of it as potential things
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that are happening in terms ofthe threads that come together
with it are some of the mostobvious ones.
First one is Christianity, ofcourse, but it's not just
Christians that we're looking athere.
We're looking a lot into theTemplar tradition specifically,
mainly because of the fact thata lot of the older ones that
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were done were Templarsthemselves and whatnot.
Now, when I say older, I meanthe fact that a lot of the older
ones that were done wereTemplars themselves and whatnot.
Now, when I say older, I meanthe ones that were written a
little later on in the era, forwhat's going on, not the
original stuff, for where thesources come from that have to
do with the ancient Gaelic andCeltic peoples, specifically the
Welsh Irish, sometimes even theScottish versions of things or
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what's going on.
So in order to understand this,you're going to have to be
looking into Celtic mythology,gaelic mythology or various
different things that are goingon there.
I personally have seen a littlebit of connections even to
Nordic mythology and whatnot,and of course, celtic and Nordic
are very similar in terms ofstuff, which then we're going to
have to look into some of theinfluences that were on them,
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such as the scythians and theproto-indo-europeans and things
of this particular nature thatwere going on there.
We also have stuff that I justfound out now that might also
play into that.
There's a having to do with thenart sagas and the Narch tales.
There were groups of peoplethere that may have made it so
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that way they influenced thestories of King Arthur and
whatnot.
We'll be looking at thoseelements as well.
I haven't read any of thesestories.
I don't know anything aboutthem at this stage, so I will
have to be going and doing that.
We are going to be looking into, of course, influence from the
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Crusades and the politics of thetime and how that shaped things
and made things the way thatthey were.
There's just so much to cover.
In all of this.
I'm going to be pulling from asmany different source materials
as I can possibly come across.
I've seen stuff with alchemythat's in there and whatnot.
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I've seen some stuff with thetarot, other notions of things
with it that are that particularway that are just from so many
different esoteric teachingswith it.
Wolfram von Aschenbach isclearly an esoteric text.
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He even states that for himself.
We're going to try to make itso.
That way we can even figure outwho the authors are, what their
specific leanings were, whythey wrote the stories, if we
can.
Sometimes they're justanonymous, so we have nothing to
pull from.
So we have all these differentthings that are going on here
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with that.
I'm very excited to go on thisjourney and to deep dive it and
try to figure out certain thingsthat are that way with it.
Um, I know that I I also seestuff from like indonesia, uh,
as a potential.
I think that's a little maybeout there at this stage.
I do know that egypt isdefinitely, uh, a big part of
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this, and same thing withsumeria excuse me, uh and some
of the stuff that's that region,the Middle Eastern region, for
what's going on.
Islam played a big role in this, for what's happening there.
We also have the Alans thathave a potential role in this as
well, the Sarmatians, groups ofthis particular nature that
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we'll have to be looking into,and we're just going to try to
put all the threads together ofthis particular nature that
we'll have to be looking into,and we're just going to try to
put all the threads together,all the strands of it together,
and see what comes out of it andmaking it so that way.
That's the case for that.
I don't have any particularnotion of where this is going to
go or any particular findingsthat I've already have in mind
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to make it so that way.
It's going to be thatparticular way.
I literally am going on ajourney, I'm taking a Grail
quest, if you will, and I'm justgoing to see what is there,
what's not there, what'simportant, what's not important,
and I'm gonna do this for aslong as I find it interesting,
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and I'm gonna do this for aslong as I find it interesting,
and I'm going to do it for aslong as there's something that I
view that I want to learn fromit and continue on on this
journey and that kind of thingwith it.
And so I don't know how longthis particular season is going
to be, because I know that thisis a years long study that I
will be going into and whatnot,meaning this will take multiple
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years for the level of depth andresearch that I want to go into
.
But every time I go and studymythologies or history or
whatever, it ends up changing meas a person.
It makes it so.
That way I learn something moreabout myself, I learn something
more about the world around meand I learn how to make it so.
That way I change my viewpointson things and by changing my
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thinking on things, alsochanging my behavior, and
ultimately, I'm looking to seeif there's any lessons that can
be learned, anything that's ofthat particular persuasion and
whatnot, and so that's anotherpart of this that's happening on
that particular front as wellhere, and I'm trying to make it
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so that way.
It's a good journey thateverybody can have fun with and
can do stuff with it.
So this is what the game planis.
I'm very excited in terms ofmaking this happen.
For what's going on with that?
Uh, I know that there's so manydifferent things that can be
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looked at and angles.
I'm not even certainnecessarily where to begin.
I'm going to be just beginningwith my highest inspiration, I
guess you can say I'm going tobe beginning with the source
materials.
Currently, the one that callsout the most to me, even if it's
not like the first one or thelast one or even these other
ones that are going on with it,is Parzival by Wolfram von
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Aschenbach, and we're going tobe looking into that one first.
For what's happening, I canalready tell you that there are
certain things that are veryclear to me on it, that it is
extremely esoteric text forwhat's going on.
I know a little bit aboutKabbalah, which I see in there.
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I know a little bit about Tarot, which is also in there.
I know almost nothing in anyway, shape or form of alchemy,
which I know that there arereferences to it for the little
bit that I do know, and so I amgoing to make it so that way.
That is the aspect that I focuson as well, like making sure
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that I learn these other thingsthat I'm seeing there, so that
way I can understand the deepermeanings that are there as well.
For what's going on and this isthe basic game plan for it I
will go and do this season foras long as I feel is appropriate
and then I will switch toanother season later on.
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That'll still be on Arthurianmyth and tradition and lore and
romance, and we might even pullfrom other things that aren't
100% of the Arthurian myth andtradition, that have to do with
other romances of the timeperiod.
I'm not entirely certain ifI'll do that or not, just to
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kind of like give a basiccomparison and see what's like
specific to that era versuswhat's specific to these authors
that are going on there with it.
Sorry, I'm just looking at someof the books that I have over
here that we'll be touching uponand whatnot.
So we'll be dealing with theVulgate cycle, also known as the
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Lancelot cycle, and we'll bedoing with the post-Vulgate
cycle.
Some of these I'm not going tobe able to show all of them here
right now, but there's 10 booksthat make up that particular
one.
That was the biggest one withit.
It's like 3,500 pages to 4,000pages long, something like that.
If you count all 10 books, youhave Le Mort d'Arthur, which is
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the Death of Arthur.
That was done by Sir ThomasMallory.
I have this particular versionhere that we're going to be
looking at and dealing with aswell.
This is another substantiallysized text for what's happening.
Some of them are very short,though, and have various
different small references toKing Arthur or something like
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that.
I mean, as you can see here,this one here is very thin and
yet there's stuff that needs tobe dissected in it as well, and
it's a much, much older source,meaning it's having to pull from
ancient celtic and uh stuffwith it.
I don't really like that term.
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We'll get the reasons why thatis later on, so we're going to
be looking into that.
We're also going to be lookinginto the various different
people that there are and tryingto deep dive them merlin,
guinevere, you know, king arthurhimself, whether he had,
whether they have any historicalbases in reality, whether
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there's anything that's of thatparticular nature that's
important for us to look at, totry to understand that.
So I'm not just going to belooking at the stories, I'm also
going to be trying to placepeople in them, if possible in
their historical context.
Now, the ultimate goal for allthis for me, just like with all
my research that I've been doingwith it, is to make it so that
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way I learn the lessons ofhistory, and to make it so that
way I ultimately change myself,and to make it so that way I can
gleam more insight into theworld around me and how it works
and whatnot.
And this is what the game planis on that particular front as
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well.
I know that there are somepeople who put that there's no
King Arthur at all, that it wasjust completely legendary
mythical figure.
Some people claim that it wasan amalgamation of multiple
different people and characters.
Some say it's a specific onethat came out of 2nd century AD
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and whatnot, or CE, if youprefer, common Era, and that
particular aspect of things.
We also have another one thatmight show up in it in the late
500s, early 600s, for potentialthings that are going on there
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too, and so that's what will behappening there.
Some of this stuff.
I won't be able to like readdirectly to you because of
translation and copyright stuffwith it, so I will try to give
my summation of the storieswhenever I'm talking about
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certain important parts that arehappening there, in order to
make it so that way you canunderstand what's going on and
follow along on this too, if youso wish.
I'm also going to be making itso that way.
I just really go and really tryto deep dive this.
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I just really go and really tryto deep dive this.
I already have lots of books onthe topic, but I have plenty
more that need to be bought tohelp me out with that, and so I
have made it so that way.
I have two things that can bedone in order to help with that,
if you wish to help support meon this particular journey.
The first one is a buy me acoffee account and account,
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which will be linked down in thedescription.
The second one is I have anAmazon wish list in which you
can go buy some of the booksthat I want to purchase directly
in order to help me researchthis and study these materials,
so that way you know exactlywhat's going on there.
I'll be adding more books overtime as I purchase them or other
people purchase them andwhatnot.
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Any and all money that I getwill be going directly towards
the research and or towards thewebsite that I'm building to
help be a database for all thisand whatnot.
For those of you who arewondering what are my
qualifications for all this thatmight make it so that way,
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you'd be like well, what givesyou the right?
First off, I'm a historian bytrade.
I have a bachelor's degree inhistory and whatnot.
Focus was on Asia and theIslamic world Specifically.
Since that time time period,I've continued to do a lot of
research on different things orwhat's going on with that.
If you want to get a taste forsome of the things that I've
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done in terms of the researchthat's been going on with it,
you can listen to any of mybonus episodes that have been
going on for season one, andalso the one of them that I've
done for season two that givesmore of a historical component
for these things and talkingabout some of that stuff.
It'll become quite clear toeverybody later on when
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listening to this and whatnot,that I know, or watching this
and whatnot, that this is thecase for that.
For those of you who want towatch this that are currently
only doing the audio format,it'll be on YouTube and it'll be
.
Forbidden Knowledge Initiates aJourney on YouTube channel for
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what's going on.
You can also go and watch this.
That'll be embedded on mywebsite at forbidden knowledge
org for what's going on there.
And so this is what I am, thenew project that I've taken on,
and this is what I am very, veryexcited to dive into and
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whatnot, because it is somethingthat I've wanted to do for
quite some time, that I knew Icouldn't do, mainly because I
lacked the amount of sufficienttraining and information in
order to really truly deeplyunderstand these traditions for
what's going on here that aregoing to be showcased inside of
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it.
And now I feel like I'm finallyat a place and an area to make
it so that way I can go andreally truly deep dive it and
fully understand it for myselfand for other people on that
particular front as well, butthrough other research that I've
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done beforehand, now that willhelp make it so I understand how
to do this.
In season one, I went oversomething called the Trivium
Method, which has to do with away of thinking, a process of
how to think rather than what tothink.
I'm going to be trying toshowcase how that works here and
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how I do research and making itso that way.
That's the case, for that.
Why I'm bringing this up alsois to make it so that way, if
there's something that happensto where I say something that
contradicts me from previousepisodes when I'm doing this,
something that contradicts mefrom previous episodes when I'm
doing this, it'll be done insuch a way that it's important
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to note that what's happeninghere is either one of two things
.
One is that I'm just talkingabout something else completely
and I'm just giving anotherparticular variation of what
could be going on, or lookinginto a different angle of it, if
it's like the Holy Grail, orpotentially who King Arthur is,
or whatever the deal is.
That's thing number one.
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Number two, which is just aslikely to occur and I will try
to make it very clear when I dostate that this is the case or
what's going on that in thoseinstances where I have changed
my mind on something due to newevidence, new information that's
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coming in, I will explain why Ino longer view it the old way
and why I view it this way andthe process of how that changed
from one part to another.
And so, with this, I think thatthat's all that is going to be
done for the first episode.
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In the second episode, we'llstart reading Wolfram von
Aschenbach.
I will start taking notes and Iwill make it so that way I
share my findings on that, forwhat's going on, and making it
so that way, we all kind oflearn about this together.
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Some of you may already know alot about the Arthurian myth and
tradition.
Some of you might know nothing,for what's going on on this
particular front.
Welcome one and all To thisparticular thing.
I am just going to try toRevitalize this tradition and
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bring it back to the forefront.
I think that it has a lot ofPowerful information that can be
put forth To help out thisworld and to help other people
understand the various differentstories, for what's going on
there, and stories do have thepower to change the world,
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whether you believe it or not.
That's what all of our beliefsare based upon stories that we
tell ourselves and whatnot.
This could be our politicalbeliefs, it could be our
religious beliefs, it could beanything and everything that's
going on there, for that Storiesare what make up our world and
how we understand our world, andcertain stories have lasted for
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a very long time and still havea very much an impact on our
world and civilization to thisday.
Some of them don't matter inany way, shape or form.
Sometimes, whole nations riseand fall based upon a particular
narrative that they believe intype of story for what's going
on.
We also use the narrative forthe term that's used, for you
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know, when we're watching TV orreading newspapers or articles
online or whatever the deal is,it's all part of the same thing,
and showcasing how to navigatethis particular thing and
whatnot.
The process of how research isdone makes that happen.
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Now, one of the things I willbe saying on this particular
front is that I will be pullingfrom a plethora of sources.
I will not just be pulling fromscholarly sources and whatnot.
Scholarly sources are veryimportant and I will be pulling
from that, but that does notmean that they have all the
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answers for what's going on.
I will be pulling fromalternative historians and
alternative people that are factcheck researchers, let's say as
well, and then, of course, myown particular things and
findings on this, because that'sthe only way you can get the
full picture.
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To pull only from one source isto make it so.
That way you blind yourself towhat the possibilities are in
terms of whatever you'reresearching and you cannot have
a truth discovery mechanismthat's done properly.
You've already censoredyourself from the beginning by
doing that, and it is a verypoor form of doing research.
That doesn't mean that what thescholars are doing are wrong.
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They could very well be right,but to ignore the fact that
other people who are everydaypeople might see something that
the scholars do not, would befoolish on that particular front
.
Some of these people that areup there are in the ivory towers
and whatnot.
They are so far removed fromthings that unless it
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definitively uh says that thisis something with it, then they
don't believe it.
An example of this that I canpull from would be from the
nordic research and that kind ofthing, where you Mjolnir Thor's
hammer, the necklace that'sworn and whatnot by certain
heathens and pagan groups oreven people who just like it and
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that kind of thing with it andpeople who wore it during the
Viking Age.
If it weren't for one of thenecklaces saying there of
Mjolnir, literally stating thisis a hammer, there would be
certain historians that wouldnot believe that it was that way
, which to me is utterlyridiculous, that it needs to be
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to that level, that it has toexplicitly state that it is,
that, even when you can justtell by looking at it that it
fits the description of whatMolnir is inside of the text and
whatnot.
Okay, so sometimes that's thecase.
For another one is that youknow, there's sometimes I had
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someone I was speaking todirectly about this who is a
researcher and it just shows howthey have no capacity for
lateral thinking and no capacityto understand even real world
stuff and they just get so stuckin their particular paradigm of
research for what's going onthere that they just can't see
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the reality of stuff for it.
So there's the association hadto do with this god named Ullr,
which is also a Norse one, andI'm focusing on the Norse
because that's what I was justresearching myself before I did
all this other stuff that wasgoing on and it's the one that's
freshest in my mind.
But I'm shifting gears into thearthurian myth and tradition,
as I stated before.
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Um, and one of the things thathappens with uler is that his
name could potentially beassociated with wool meaning,
meaning literally the woolly one, and he's a god that shows up
in the Norse pantheon inwintertime and whatnot, and for
whatever reason, the professorwas having a hard time
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understanding that wool isdirectly associated with winter,
that we wear wool and even inour modern era, some of us
during winter time, that wedon't wear it during summer time
.
So it was helpful to showcasethat he was in fact at least in
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part associated with winter insome capacity or another, and
there's plenty of other thingsthat help with that notion.
But the point I'm trying tobring up is that he couldn't
make that connection with wooland winter.
Now I'm not saying that he is awinter god, I don't know.
I'm not going to get into allthat here.
I have my own interpretation ofthings based upon that.
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But the fact that the professorcould not make that intuitive
leap directly inside of it, thenit's not going to work.
A lot of these myths andtraditions, they do not make it
so.
That way everything is literaland whatnot.
The ancient peoples of theworld thought more symbolically
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than we do now.
Too many of us are trapped in aleft-brain prison idea that
makes it so that way.
Everything has to be literal,everything has to be categorized
, everything has to fit into aparticular box.
That's not how the ancientsthought I want to make this very
clear on this particular pointhow the ancients thought I want
to make this very clear on thisparticular point and because of
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that, it makes us of that way,no matter what, we have to take
that into account for thingswith.
I mean, you can see behind meover here with a new bus and
whatnot, and he has, you know,the heart and the feather there
for what's going on and theweighing of the scales and
whatnot.
Obviously, if you were to weigha heart versus a feather, the
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heart's going to weigh more in aphysical sense.
But it's a sense, it's symbolicand it's not literal.
It's a feather of ma and truth,and so it's about your
consciousness and whether you'vemade it so that way.
You do this and it's done infront of 42 judges and it's
called the 42 negativeconfessions of Egypt.
I'm not going to go into that,but the point is to the stories,
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to the legends.
Rather than being alwaysliteral, there are parts that,
of course, are all literal aswell.
So this is the game plan andthis is what's going to be
happening with it.
I thank you all for listeningand watching.
It's been a lot of work to tryto get the studio set up the way
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I want to and whatnot.
Hopefully you guys like it.
Eventually there'll beexpansions and things with it.
There'll be different cameraangles, but for now this is what
it is.
It's going to be more of avlogging type style thing that's
going to be done here with itand I look forward to seeing any
and all of you that areinterested in this and the next
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episode.
Thank you so much for stoppingby.
And welcome back to the Forbidden Knowledge podcast.
As you can see, we're doingvideo for the first time and
we've set up a kind of a studiospace in order to make this
better for what's going on there.
My name is Nathaniel Hoitmacherand I am the show's host.
More than a month and a halfago, I announced that I was
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going to be starting a newseason, and the new season that
I would be starting would be onArthurian myth and tradition,
and that is exactly what Iintend to do.
I had also originally statedthat I was going to be doing it
in the middle of October.
Unfortunately, that did notcome to fruition.
I got sick.
I still have some of thesymptoms.
(00:45):
I'm a little congested, alittle bit with throat stuff.
Still, you might be able tohear it in my voice.
Even I'm trying to make it sothat way.
I'm keeping my promise of doingit in October, and so I'm
recording here on Halloween forwhat's going on, at least here
in America, for what it is onOctober 31st.
So what to expect from thisparticular episode and from the
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podcast going forward andwhatnot, is that it will have
video for it.
It'll still have the exact samestuff when it comes to anything
related to things that arehappening on the audio.
So it'll still be for Apple,it'll still be for Spotify,
it'll still be for any of theother platforms that I have
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already up there for it.
Nothing's going to be changingon that.
Video is just now going to beadded to it On top of this last
season.
I was doing more of a kind of alecture style thing with it
where I went on topic, kind of alecture style thing with it
where I went on topic.
I just kind of pre-recorded it,talked to you, gave information
for what was going on on thisparticular season.
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What I'm going to be doing isI'm going to be going in and I'm
going to be making it so thatway I talk more with you, I take
a journey with you.
So to instead of just tellingyou what I already know, I chose
Arthurian myth and traditionspecifically because I don't
know anything about it.
(02:12):
I haven't read the primarysources.
I've hardly at all.
I've.
Just I did a little bit overthe last six, seven weeks here.
I don't really know much interms of secondary sources, in
terms of other people's opinionson it and whatnot.
I've done that on purpose,because I want to make it so
that way for the most part.
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I'm having a fresh start, goingon with you on the journey to
discover what there is, to seewhat there is.
That's there making it so.
That way it's more of a processof discovery for what's going
on, and so I will be pullingfrom as many different things
that there are with it.
(02:52):
I'm going to be reading duringthis time period, I'm going to
be taking lots of notes, I'mgoing to be making it so.
That way I kind of showcase myability to research.
I'm going to be doing this insemi real time in the beginning.
Hopefully, a little later on,when I become more tech savvy, I
(03:13):
will be doing some sort ofstreaming stuff with it too, to
make it so that way it'sactually in real time for what's
going on there, what's going onthere as well.
And right now, the basic gameplan for all of this is just to
pull from as many differentsources as possible.
So I have one of them here thatI'll just show as an example.
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This is Parsifal by Wolfram vonAschenbach, and there are
plenty of other ones that I'mdoing with it that are going to
be done that way.
We're going to be covering allof the various different notions
of things with it.
I'm going to be looking intoall the different threads that
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come together to make it so thatway we can learn more about
these particular things that'sgoing on with it.
We're going to be looking atthe Holy Grail and the various
different possible meanings thatit could be with it.
You know some people are goingto use it from a Christian
interpretation and from the LastSupper.
Others are going to make it sothat way.
It's more of a hereticalunderstanding of things with
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that in terms of, you know,maybe a potential bloodline
that's going on there, that'shidden inside of it.
There's also just the spiritualillumination part of it that
goes along with that and many,many other theories that are out
there.
We're going to be looking intoall of that as well.
Currently, what I already seeinside of it as potential things
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that are happening in terms ofthe threads that come together
with it are some of the mostobvious ones.
First one is Christianity, ofcourse, but it's not just
Christians that we're looking athere.
We're looking a lot into theTemplar tradition specifically,
mainly because of the fact thata lot of the older ones that
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were done were Templarsthemselves and whatnot.
Now, when I say older, I meanthe fact that a lot of the older
ones that were done wereTemplars themselves and whatnot.
Now, when I say older, I meanthe ones that were written a
little later on in the era, forwhat's going on, not the
original stuff, for where thesources come from that have to
do with the ancient Gaelic andCeltic peoples, specifically the
Welsh Irish, sometimes even theScottish versions of things or
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what's going on.
So in order to understand this,you're going to have to be
looking into Celtic mythology,gaelic mythology or various
different things that are goingon there.
I personally have seen a littlebit of connections even to
Nordic mythology and whatnot,and of course, celtic and Nordic
are very similar in terms ofstuff, which then we're going to
have to look into some of theinfluences that were on them,
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such as the scythians and theproto-indo-europeans and things
of this particular nature thatwere going on there.
We also have stuff that I justfound out now that might also
play into that.
There's a having to do with thenart sagas and the Narch tales.
There were groups of peoplethere that may have made it so
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that way they influenced thestories of King Arthur and
whatnot.
We'll be looking at thoseelements as well.
I haven't read any of thesestories.
I don't know anything aboutthem at this stage, so I will
have to be going and doing that.
We are going to be looking into, of course, influence from the
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Crusades and the politics of thetime and how that shaped things
and made things the way thatthey were.
There's just so much to cover.
In all of this.
I'm going to be pulling from asmany different source materials
as I can possibly come across.
I've seen stuff with alchemythat's in there and whatnot.
(06:53):
I've seen some stuff with thetarot, other notions of things
with it that are that particularway that are just from so many
different esoteric teachingswith it.
Wolfram von Aschenbach isclearly an esoteric text.
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He even states that for himself.
We're going to try to make itso.
That way we can even figure outwho the authors are, what their
specific leanings were, whythey wrote the stories, if we
can.
Sometimes they're justanonymous, so we have nothing to
pull from.
So we have all these differentthings that are going on here
(07:37):
with that.
I'm very excited to go on thisjourney and to deep dive it and
try to figure out certain thingsthat are that way with it.
Um, I know that I I also seestuff from like indonesia, uh,
as a potential.
I think that's a little maybeout there at this stage.
I do know that egypt isdefinitely, uh, a big part of
(07:58):
this, and same thing withsumeria excuse me, uh and some
of the stuff that's that region,the Middle Eastern region, for
what's going on.
Islam played a big role in this, for what's happening there.
We also have the Alans thathave a potential role in this as
well, the Sarmatians, groups ofthis particular nature that
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we'll have to be looking into,and we're just going to try to
put all the threads together ofthis particular nature that
we'll have to be looking into,and we're just going to try to
put all the threads together,all the strands of it together,
and see what comes out of it andmaking it so that way.
That's the case for that.
I don't have any particularnotion of where this is going to
go or any particular findingsthat I've already have in mind
(08:41):
to make it so that way.
It's going to be thatparticular way.
I literally am going on ajourney, I'm taking a Grail
quest, if you will, and I'm justgoing to see what is there,
what's not there, what'simportant, what's not important,
and I'm gonna do this for aslong as I find it interesting,
(09:02):
and I'm gonna do this for aslong as I find it interesting,
and I'm going to do it for aslong as there's something that I
view that I want to learn fromit and continue on on this
journey and that kind of thingwith it.
And so I don't know how longthis particular season is going
to be, because I know that thisis a years long study that I
will be going into and whatnot,meaning this will take multiple
(09:23):
years for the level of depth andresearch that I want to go into
.
But every time I go and studymythologies or history or
whatever, it ends up changing meas a person.
It makes it so.
That way I learn something moreabout myself, I learn something
more about the world around meand I learn how to make it so.
That way I change my viewpointson things and by changing my
(09:48):
thinking on things, alsochanging my behavior, and
ultimately, I'm looking to seeif there's any lessons that can
be learned, anything that's ofthat particular persuasion and
whatnot, and so that's anotherpart of this that's happening on
that particular front as wellhere, and I'm trying to make it
(10:10):
so that way.
It's a good journey thateverybody can have fun with and
can do stuff with it.
So this is what the game planis.
I'm very excited in terms ofmaking this happen.
For what's going on with that?
Uh, I know that there's so manydifferent things that can be
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looked at and angles.
I'm not even certainnecessarily where to begin.
I'm going to be just beginningwith my highest inspiration, I
guess you can say I'm going tobe beginning with the source
materials.
Currently, the one that callsout the most to me, even if it's
not like the first one or thelast one or even these other
ones that are going on with it,is Parzival by Wolfram von
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Aschenbach, and we're going tobe looking into that one first.
For what's happening, I canalready tell you that there are
certain things that are veryclear to me on it, that it is
extremely esoteric text forwhat's going on.
I know a little bit aboutKabbalah, which I see in there.
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I know a little bit about Tarot, which is also in there.
I know almost nothing in anyway, shape or form of alchemy,
which I know that there arereferences to it for the little
bit that I do know, and so I amgoing to make it so that way.
That is the aspect that I focuson as well, like making sure
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that I learn these other thingsthat I'm seeing there, so that
way I can understand the deepermeanings that are there as well.
For what's going on and this isthe basic game plan for it I
will go and do this season foras long as I feel is appropriate
and then I will switch toanother season later on.
(12:09):
That'll still be on Arthurianmyth and tradition and lore and
romance, and we might even pullfrom other things that aren't
100% of the Arthurian myth andtradition, that have to do with
other romances of the timeperiod.
I'm not entirely certain ifI'll do that or not, just to
(12:29):
kind of like give a basiccomparison and see what's like
specific to that era versuswhat's specific to these authors
that are going on there with it.
Sorry, I'm just looking at someof the books that I have over
here that we'll be touching uponand whatnot.
So we'll be dealing with theVulgate cycle, also known as the
(12:51):
Lancelot cycle, and we'll bedoing with the post-Vulgate
cycle.
Some of these I'm not going tobe able to show all of them here
right now, but there's 10 booksthat make up that particular
one.
That was the biggest one withit.
It's like 3,500 pages to 4,000pages long, something like that.
If you count all 10 books, youhave Le Mort d'Arthur, which is
(13:15):
the Death of Arthur.
That was done by Sir ThomasMallory.
I have this particular versionhere that we're going to be
looking at and dealing with aswell.
This is another substantiallysized text for what's happening.
Some of them are very short,though, and have various
different small references toKing Arthur or something like
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that.
I mean, as you can see here,this one here is very thin and
yet there's stuff that needs tobe dissected in it as well, and
it's a much, much older source,meaning it's having to pull from
ancient celtic and uh stuffwith it.
I don't really like that term.
(13:59):
We'll get the reasons why thatis later on, so we're going to
be looking into that.
We're also going to be lookinginto the various different
people that there are and tryingto deep dive them merlin,
guinevere, you know, king arthurhimself, whether he had,
whether they have any historicalbases in reality, whether
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there's anything that's of thatparticular nature that's
important for us to look at, totry to understand that.
So I'm not just going to belooking at the stories, I'm also
going to be trying to placepeople in them, if possible in
their historical context.
Now, the ultimate goal for allthis for me, just like with all
my research that I've been doingwith it, is to make it so that
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way I learn the lessons ofhistory, and to make it so that
way I ultimately change myself,and to make it so that way I can
gleam more insight into theworld around me and how it works
and whatnot.
And this is what the game planis on that particular front as
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well.
I know that there are somepeople who put that there's no
King Arthur at all, that it wasjust completely legendary
mythical figure.
Some people claim that it wasan amalgamation of multiple
different people and characters.
Some say it's a specific onethat came out of 2nd century AD
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and whatnot, or CE, if youprefer, common Era, and that
particular aspect of things.
We also have another one thatmight show up in it in the late
500s, early 600s, for potentialthings that are going on there
(15:47):
too, and so that's what will behappening there.
Some of this stuff.
I won't be able to like readdirectly to you because of
translation and copyright stuffwith it, so I will try to give
my summation of the storieswhenever I'm talking about
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certain important parts that arehappening there, in order to
make it so that way you canunderstand what's going on and
follow along on this too, if youso wish.
I'm also going to be making itso that way.
I just really go and really tryto deep dive this.
(16:29):
I just really go and really tryto deep dive this.
I already have lots of books onthe topic, but I have plenty
more that need to be bought tohelp me out with that, and so I
have made it so that way.
I have two things that can bedone in order to help with that,
if you wish to help support meon this particular journey.
The first one is a buy me acoffee account and account,
(16:53):
which will be linked down in thedescription.
The second one is I have anAmazon wish list in which you
can go buy some of the booksthat I want to purchase directly
in order to help me researchthis and study these materials,
so that way you know exactlywhat's going on there.
I'll be adding more books overtime as I purchase them or other
people purchase them andwhatnot.
(17:16):
Any and all money that I getwill be going directly towards
the research and or towards thewebsite that I'm building to
help be a database for all thisand whatnot.
For those of you who arewondering what are my
qualifications for all this thatmight make it so that way,
(17:36):
you'd be like well, what givesyou the right?
First off, I'm a historian bytrade.
I have a bachelor's degree inhistory and whatnot.
Focus was on Asia and theIslamic world Specifically.
Since that time time period,I've continued to do a lot of
research on different things orwhat's going on with that.
If you want to get a taste forsome of the things that I've
(17:57):
done in terms of the researchthat's been going on with it,
you can listen to any of mybonus episodes that have been
going on for season one, andalso the one of them that I've
done for season two that givesmore of a historical component
for these things and talkingabout some of that stuff.
It'll become quite clear toeverybody later on when
(18:19):
listening to this and whatnot,that I know, or watching this
and whatnot, that this is thecase for that.
For those of you who want towatch this that are currently
only doing the audio format,it'll be on YouTube and it'll be
.
Forbidden Knowledge Initiates aJourney on YouTube channel for
(18:43):
what's going on.
You can also go and watch this.
That'll be embedded on mywebsite at forbidden knowledge
org for what's going on there.
And so this is what I am, thenew project that I've taken on,
and this is what I am very, veryexcited to dive into and
(19:06):
whatnot, because it is somethingthat I've wanted to do for
quite some time, that I knew Icouldn't do, mainly because I
lacked the amount of sufficienttraining and information in
order to really truly deeplyunderstand these traditions for
what's going on here that aregoing to be showcased inside of
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it.
And now I feel like I'm finallyat a place and an area to make
it so that way I can go andreally truly deep dive it and
fully understand it for myselfand for other people on that
particular front as well, butthrough other research that I've
(19:53):
done beforehand, now that willhelp make it so I understand how
to do this.
In season one, I went oversomething called the Trivium
Method, which has to do with away of thinking, a process of
how to think rather than what tothink.
I'm going to be trying toshowcase how that works here and
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how I do research and making itso that way.
That's the case, for that.
Why I'm bringing this up alsois to make it so that way, if
there's something that happensto where I say something that
contradicts me from previousepisodes when I'm doing this,
something that contradicts mefrom previous episodes when I'm
doing this, it'll be done insuch a way that it's important
(20:34):
to note that what's happeninghere is either one of two things
.
One is that I'm just talkingabout something else completely
and I'm just giving anotherparticular variation of what
could be going on, or lookinginto a different angle of it, if
it's like the Holy Grail, orpotentially who King Arthur is,
or whatever the deal is.
That's thing number one.
(20:56):
Number two, which is just aslikely to occur and I will try
to make it very clear when I dostate that this is the case or
what's going on that in thoseinstances where I have changed
my mind on something due to newevidence, new information that's
(21:17):
coming in, I will explain why Ino longer view it the old way
and why I view it this way andthe process of how that changed
from one part to another.
And so, with this, I think thatthat's all that is going to be
done for the first episode.
(21:38):
In the second episode, we'llstart reading Wolfram von
Aschenbach.
I will start taking notes and Iwill make it so that way I
share my findings on that, forwhat's going on, and making it
so that way, we all kind oflearn about this together.
(21:59):
Some of you may already know alot about the Arthurian myth and
tradition.
Some of you might know nothing,for what's going on on this
particular front.
Welcome one and all To thisparticular thing.
I am just going to try toRevitalize this tradition and
(22:20):
bring it back to the forefront.
I think that it has a lot ofPowerful information that can be
put forth To help out thisworld and to help other people
understand the various differentstories, for what's going on
there, and stories do have thepower to change the world,
(22:41):
whether you believe it or not.
That's what all of our beliefsare based upon stories that we
tell ourselves and whatnot.
This could be our politicalbeliefs, it could be our
religious beliefs, it could beanything and everything that's
going on there, for that Storiesare what make up our world and
how we understand our world, andcertain stories have lasted for
(23:05):
a very long time and still havea very much an impact on our
world and civilization to thisday.
Some of them don't matter inany way, shape or form.
Sometimes, whole nations riseand fall based upon a particular
narrative that they believe intype of story for what's going
on.
We also use the narrative forthe term that's used, for you
(23:28):
know, when we're watching TV orreading newspapers or articles
online or whatever the deal is,it's all part of the same thing,
and showcasing how to navigatethis particular thing and
whatnot.
The process of how research isdone makes that happen.
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Now, one of the things I willbe saying on this particular
front is that I will be pullingfrom a plethora of sources.
I will not just be pulling fromscholarly sources and whatnot.
Scholarly sources are veryimportant and I will be pulling
from that, but that does notmean that they have all the
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answers for what's going on.
I will be pulling fromalternative historians and
alternative people that are factcheck researchers, let's say as
well, and then, of course, myown particular things and
findings on this, because that'sthe only way you can get the
full picture.
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To pull only from one source isto make it so.
That way you blind yourself towhat the possibilities are in
terms of whatever you'reresearching and you cannot have
a truth discovery mechanismthat's done properly.
You've already censoredyourself from the beginning by
doing that, and it is a verypoor form of doing research.
That doesn't mean that what thescholars are doing are wrong.
(24:57):
They could very well be right,but to ignore the fact that
other people who are everydaypeople might see something that
the scholars do not, would befoolish on that particular front
.
Some of these people that areup there are in the ivory towers
and whatnot.
They are so far removed fromthings that unless it
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definitively uh says that thisis something with it, then they
don't believe it.
An example of this that I canpull from would be from the
nordic research and that kind ofthing, where you Mjolnir Thor's
hammer, the necklace that'sworn and whatnot by certain
heathens and pagan groups oreven people who just like it and
(25:38):
that kind of thing with it andpeople who wore it during the
Viking Age.
If it weren't for one of thenecklaces saying there of
Mjolnir, literally stating thisis a hammer, there would be
certain historians that wouldnot believe that it was that way
, which to me is utterlyridiculous, that it needs to be
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to that level, that it has toexplicitly state that it is,
that, even when you can justtell by looking at it that it
fits the description of whatMolnir is inside of the text and
whatnot.
Okay, so sometimes that's thecase.
For another one is that youknow, there's sometimes I had
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someone I was speaking todirectly about this who is a
researcher and it just shows howthey have no capacity for
lateral thinking and no capacityto understand even real world
stuff and they just get so stuckin their particular paradigm of
research for what's going onthere that they just can't see
(26:44):
the reality of stuff for it.
So there's the association hadto do with this god named Ullr,
which is also a Norse one, andI'm focusing on the Norse
because that's what I was justresearching myself before I did
all this other stuff that wasgoing on and it's the one that's
freshest in my mind.
But I'm shifting gears into thearthurian myth and tradition,
as I stated before.
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Um, and one of the things thathappens with uler is that his
name could potentially beassociated with wool meaning,
meaning literally the woolly one, and he's a god that shows up
in the Norse pantheon inwintertime and whatnot, and for
whatever reason, the professorwas having a hard time
(27:29):
understanding that wool isdirectly associated with winter,
that we wear wool and even inour modern era, some of us
during winter time, that wedon't wear it during summer time
.
So it was helpful to showcasethat he was in fact at least in
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part associated with winter insome capacity or another, and
there's plenty of other thingsthat help with that notion.
But the point I'm trying tobring up is that he couldn't
make that connection with wooland winter.
Now I'm not saying that he is awinter god, I don't know.
I'm not going to get into allthat here.
I have my own interpretation ofthings based upon that.
(28:12):
But the fact that the professorcould not make that intuitive
leap directly inside of it, thenit's not going to work.
A lot of these myths andtraditions, they do not make it
so.
That way everything is literaland whatnot.
The ancient peoples of theworld thought more symbolically
(28:35):
than we do now.
Too many of us are trapped in aleft-brain prison idea that
makes it so that way.
Everything has to be literal,everything has to be categorized
, everything has to fit into aparticular box.
That's not how the ancientsthought I want to make this very
clear on this particular pointhow the ancients thought I want
to make this very clear on thisparticular point and because of
(28:57):
that, it makes us of that way,no matter what, we have to take
that into account for thingswith.
I mean, you can see behind meover here with a new bus and
whatnot, and he has, you know,the heart and the feather there
for what's going on and theweighing of the scales and
whatnot.
Obviously, if you were to weigha heart versus a feather, the
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heart's going to weigh more in aphysical sense.
But it's a sense, it's symbolicand it's not literal.
It's a feather of ma and truth,and so it's about your
consciousness and whether you'vemade it so that way.
You do this and it's done infront of 42 judges and it's
called the 42 negativeconfessions of Egypt.
I'm not going to go into that,but the point is to the stories,
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to the legends.
Rather than being alwaysliteral, there are parts that,
of course, are all literal aswell.
So this is the game plan andthis is what's going to be
happening with it.
I thank you all for listeningand watching.
It's been a lot of work to tryto get the studio set up the way
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I want to and whatnot.
Hopefully you guys like it.
Eventually there'll beexpansions and things with it.
There'll be different cameraangles, but for now this is what
it is.
It's going to be more of avlogging type style thing that's
going to be done here with itand I look forward to seeing any
and all of you that areinterested in this and the next
(30:39):
episode.
Thank you so much for stoppingby.
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