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Are you being manipulated without even realizing it? This episode of the Forbidden Knowledge Podcast takes you on a profound journey through the shadowy realms of societal control and psychological manipulation. We begin by uncovering the stark contrast between independent thought and indoctrination, diving deep into the sinister use of logical fallacies and primal fear tactics. By recognizing these subtle yet pervasive methods, you can start to see how information is artfully veiled or contorted to steer your behavior and beliefs.

Have you ever wondered why political parties seem different but nothing really changes? We break down the 'divide and conquer' strategies and controlled opposition tactics that keep the status quo firmly in place. This episode draws fascinating parallels between political and religious dogma, examining how a binary "us versus them" mentality stifles collaborative solutions. We'll also expose how mass media and the debt-driven financial system play crucial roles in shaping public emotions and perceptions, anchoring us to certain societal norms and behaviors.

From the chaotic echoes of 9/11 to the widespread panic of the COVID-19 pandemic, we dissect how fear and symbolism are wielded as powerful tools of manipulation. Learn about the Hegelian dialectic and how preplanned solutions are seamlessly introduced through engineered societal events. We contrast these fear-based strategies with more empowering methodologies, showcasing how factual information can lead to more autonomous, informed decision-making. Tune in for an eye-opening discussion that promises to equip you with the knowledge to navigate and critically assess the information landscape around you.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Of course, the other one has to do with what's being
right and whatnot.
It's not even a contest forwhat's happening.
People want to claim oh, it hasto do with people not being
good people and whatnot, andthat if the government didn't
force them to do it then itwouldn't happen.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Really, really.
You believe that, you trulybelieve that that's the case for
it.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
99% of humanity wants security.
It 99 of humanity wantssecurity.
99 percent of humanity wantspeace.
99 plus percent of humanitywants abundance and prosperity
and love and all these otherthings that are going on with it
, and you believe that they aregoing to somehow behave like
complete jackasses when it comesto, I don't know.
Let's see protecting themselvesand their loved ones and

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whatnot.
That makes zero sense.

(01:29):
Thank you, hello, and.
Hello and welcome back to theVerblinden Knowledge Podcast.

(01:51):
My name is Nathaniel Hoitmacherand I will be your host Today.
We will be continuing on withthe series of how to think
instead of what to think.
In this particular instance,we'll be going over various
different techniques that havebeen used, both modern and
ancient, in order to make it sothat way population can be

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controlled, and made it so thatway they can be manipulated into
doing the bidding of otherpeople, whether they realize it
or not.
I will not be going in depthinto every single one of them
here, because this is not thepoint of this season.
I will be doing that at a laterseason, or perhaps in the form

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of a course for those who areinterested in learning more
about how to think rather thanwhat to think.
These can be generallycategorized as methods of
manipulation, and so, if you arecoming in at this point in the
show, I would expect you tominimally go back to the first
couple of episodes thatexplained the trivia method and

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how it worked, in order to makeit so that we have the minimum
basis of understanding of whatthis particular episode is about
.
On top of that, I would alsosuggest that, if this is the
first episode that you've evercome into period for what's
going on, that you go back toepisode one minimum, preferably

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zero, so that way you understandwhat the entirety of the
podcast and the season is aboutWithout further ado.
I will continue onward aboutWithout further ado.
I will continue onward, allright.
So last time we were talkingabout the Trivia Method and we
were talking about the benefitsof the Trivia Method and things

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of this particular nature.
One of the things that theTrivia Method allows you to do
is to be able to detect variousdifferent forms of deception,
various different ways thatpeople try to manipulate you
into doing other things with it.
This can be done on a consciouslevel, for people who are truly

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trying to take advantage ofsomebody else and have no good
intentions whatsoever.
Or this can be done on anunconscious level that makes it
so that way they try to make itso, that way they inactively go
after you and are just basicallypassing on information that
they've heard from somewhereelse and not realizing that

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that's the case or what's goingon, or they're coming from a
place of fear.
We'll come back to the fearpart in a moment, because it's
the most important aspect out ofall of this and we will look at
the difference betweenfear-based mentality versus a
loving-based mentality or lovingexpression.
So with that in mind, I willcontinue forward from this.

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Obviously, the most easy one togo after is the logical
fallacies.
These are things that aretalked about in the Trivian
Method all the time for what'sgoing on, and it is literally
techniques that are used to dealwith things.
One of them that's the mostobvious is like the non-sequitur
, meaning it does not follow.

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This is stuff that I'm notgoing to get into here, mainly
because most people are going tofind it boring and they're not
going to really care about it,and you can go look this stuff
up easily online and it is muchmore important that I cover
other things than going over thevarious different logical
fallacies.
If there is enough of a callfor that to be made from various

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different people and from mysubscribers and followers and
things of this nature for what'sgoing on, I will do so.
But for the general, for thetime being, I have no interest
in going down that particularpath On to the next stuff with
it.
These again are only going tobe teasers that I give meaning

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that they're going to be small,they're going to be concise, I'm
not going to go over them.
In general, that's not thepoint of this particular season.
It is just to show that this isimportant for stuff, and it's
to get your appetite wet, towant more and to explore more
for your own, should you want todo so.
So the number one thing that isdone is playing on primal fears.

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All right, this is like fear ofthe dark or fear of the unknown
, or, you know, playing onpeople's insecurities and
whatnot, in terms of making themwant to feel like they have
security, even if they don'ttruly have that.
Uh, for what's going on?
Of course, this could bemanipulating people, um, in

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terms of, like you know, certaininsects, like poisonous spiders
and whatnot, or snakes andthese particular things for it.
But the playing on primal fearsis a huge part of how people
can be manipulated, and it'svery important to understand
that lots of people still usethese techniques today to

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manipulate people, to get themto do what they want.
Another one is obfuscation.
Another one is obfuscation.
Obfuscation is where peoplemake it so difficult to find the
information that it makes it sopeople are dissuaded from even
looking into it.
This could be an example.

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A lot of people associate theword occult with something evil.
It's not what occult means.
Occult literally means hidden.
That's all it means.
So in the case of someone whothinks that the occult is evil,
they won't even be, they won'teven look into it because
they've been persuaded not to,because that thing is evil and I
don't want to look and didn'tdo anything evil for what's
going on, rather than realizingthat it's just hidden knowledge

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and hidden understanding ofthings and that it doesn't
necessarily mean that it's evil,although certain aspects of it
can be on the negative side ofthings.
Just like anything else, it's atool, could be used for used
for good or for evil purposes.
So that's another techniquethat's used all the time.

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Another one that is brought upis, you know, like our food and
our medicine, or should I saylack of proper food.
A lot of the food that we eatis not even real food.
It's processed crap that does abunch of stuff to our body,
makes it inflamed, makes it sothat way more sluggish and we

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don't take active stuff in theworld, as well as messing with
our ability to think properlybecause we are in a different
state of being.
That's not optimal for us andit makes us so.
That way we don't get propersleep, we don't get properly
energized and all these otherthings that are going on with
that.
So food is a big part of that.

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Medicine is also a big aspectof this, mainly the fact that a
lot of medicines are notactually designed to cure people
in the modern world.
A lot of them are to make it sothat way.
They're on that for lifeBecause the pharmaceutical
companies make the most amountof money when the people have to

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continuously be on their drugsfor what's going on, and so they
don't want people actuallygetting truly healthy for things
.
So those are two other onesthat have also been used
historically, especially thefood part, where people don't
have access to good, healthythings with it.
This was done in the medievalera and made it so we rulers

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could rule much more easily,because the peasants had crappy
diets and crappy food and madeit so that way they couldn't go
and do anything against tyrantsthat were against them, because
they were so focused onsubsisting and trying to just
get by that they never even hadthe time to figure out what to

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do and go against the people whowere actually causing most of
their problems, which were thesetyrannical leaders.
So there's that aspect of ittoo, from the historical
standpoint.
Another one is having to do withwhat you can call worldview
poisoning.
So an example of this has to dowith like oh well, conflict and

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war is just part of humannature, and that kind of stuff
Really.
Is it really truly part ofhuman nature?
Homo sapiens, as we are knownin our modern form, have existed
in the form that we have foraround 300,000 years now, given
the current data of things, andduring this time period we've

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only been at war or any form oforganized battle maximally
12,000 years, even that'sdisputed, and maximally 8,000
years undisputed.
And then even during that wehaven't been at war constantly
for that entire 8,000 to 12,000year window.

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So what's our nature?
Something that we do 3% of thetime or less, or something that
we do 97% of the time or more?
This is an example of worldviewpoisoning, saying that we are
just doomed to repeat the sameconflicts over and over, because
that's just who we are.

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Don't confuse something that'sconditional with something that
is our nature.
That's an example of worldviewpoisoning.
Another one, of course, isindoctrination.
We call them schools now ingeneral for what's going on.
They don't teach people how tothink.

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They teach people what to think.
Teaching anybody what to thinkequals that you're
indoctrinating them.
If you don't give them thetools to be able to think for
themselves in any capacitywhatsoever, then you are
literally only telling them whatyou want them to know, which
makes it so that way.
You are trying to control thatindividual.

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That's all.
The outcome education system.
Outcome based education systemexcuse me, that we have now is a
part of that's.
It Doesn't matter where it is,doesn't matter if it's in Europe
or in Japan or China or NorthAmerica, it's all the same stuff
for what's going on.

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And so it makes it so.
That way you have where you'reindoctrinating somebody else
into doing what you want them todo rather than making it so.
That way you teach them theskills that they need of how to
think instead of what to think.
Many people, of course, arefamiliar with the divide and

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conquer technique that has beendescribed by many different
people throughout history andwhatnot.
We're seeing that hugely heregoing on in Western world,
especially in America, where thedivision keeps ramping up more
and more and more.
That's what the people who arerulers want from other people.

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They want to make it so.
That way we fight amongst eachother rather than turning
against the people who areactually the problem, who are
actually causing the issues.
For everybody that's going on.
The left fights versus theright, so to speak.
For what's happening?
You have man versus woman.
For what's going on?
Various different ethnicitygroups and nationalities going

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against each other and havingtheir own ways of doing things
and whatnot.
Cultures, religions, etc.
Anything that can be used todivide a group of people.
That's what they're playing on,and of course, they're also
adding that on with people'sfears of leaving the known.
All that group's scary becauseof that or that group's against
you and they don't want the samething as you don't go get you
know they're evil type deal.

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So that's what the identitypolitics that's going on in
america is about, both from theleft and the right.
It doesn't matter which side andwhatnot, as well as other
countries, of course, too.
It's a divide and conquerstrategy, one that some of you

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are going to be familiar with.
Of course, too, it's controlledopposition.
This is where you put somebodyin that seems to be going
against the established order,but in reality is the exact same
thing business as usual andwhatnot, because they know that
people are dissatisfied with thesystem and so it makes it so.

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That way, no matter what youknow, the overall people get
what they want.
In america, this has workedextremely well.
Uh, we see this uh very easilywith certain things that have
occurred with it.
I mean, it doesn't matterwhether a republican or
democratic congress or presidentor whoever gets put into power,

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at least on the federal level.
What ends up happening is isthat there's always money for
things that we want to get done,meaning the people that in
power went, like war, alwayshave a budget for that, but we
don't have a budget for, like,taking care of our housing
situation the way that it needsto, or fixing our education

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system or our health care systemor roads, or taking care of our
veterans or whatever the dealis that's going on there, and so
it doesn't matter who gets intopower, or at least seemingly.
Uh, for what's going on inamerica?
The same shit keeps happeningover and over and over again.

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Government gets bigger, itintrudes on your life more, just
maybe in different ways, forwhat's going on?
So that's that.
Another point you could say isdogmatic belief of any sort.
This can be done in certainreligions, or it could be done
in the form of politics, whichis just another way of having

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dogmatic belief.
My team believes this.
Therefore, I follow what myteam tells me.
Whether it be Republican,democrat, libertarian, whatever,
really doesn't matter, it's thesame thing, for what's
happening causes people to thinkin a us versus them mentality,

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rather than treating each otheras individuals and trying to
work out things properly andtogether as individuals and
coming together to solve theproblems that face all of us,
rather than, oh, I have to dothis because my team wants this,
or I have to do that because myteam wants that.
It causes a lot of issues forstuff with it.

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This is true of other politicalparties everywhere in the world
.
It doesn't matter which one itis and that kind of thing with
it.
They all have their platforms,they all have their beliefs that
they're going with and whatnot,and by doing so, you have
fallen into the divide andconquer aspect yet again, but

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also have gotten into it whereit has the dogmatic religious
aspects go into it as well thatyou're not allowed to go against
your own team, at least to acertain extent.
One of the biggest things thatis there that manipulates and
controls us all the time,regardless of whether we realize

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it or not, is our currentfinancial system, which is a
debt-based system, and debtdoesn't exist in nature, aka you
can't have to where you owesomething to someone and and
whatnot.
What I mean by this is that, ifyou see it in nature, there is
always has to be something.
There can't be nothing or anegative thing with it.
Debt is a negative thing,meaning it's something that's

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not there and it's beingpromoted onto the future and
whatnot.
Now, this, of course, dictatespretty much everything that we
do, whether we go out to eat ornot, roof over our head or not.
It dictates our entire behaviorand touches on all of our
emotions and this kind of thing,and it is one of the biggest

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manipulators and biggestcontrollers that there is of all
of our behaviors on the planet.
Just food for thought on thatparticular one, for what's going
on.
Regardless of where you stand onpolitics, religion, any of this
other stuff, this one here issomething that binds almost all
of us.
Another one, of course, iscontrol of mass media.

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We've already touched on thiswhen it comes to the
indoctrination part with theeducation system, but that
doesn't just include that.
This also includes, you know,various different news media
outlets and whatnot, wherethey're basically all saying the
same stuff over and over andover again.
There was a minister thatworked for a certain leader in

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germany that we know as hitlertoday, and whatnot, and it was
the minister of propaganda who,known as gobbels, who literally
stated that if you tell a lie, abig enough lie, over and over
and over again and I'mparaphrasing, of course then
eventually people believe it.
That's what's happening here.

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If you have, everybody isrepeating the same, whatever it
is that they're repeating thesame slogan, the same idea, over
and over and over again, thenof course, eventually people are
going to believe it becauseit's what they hear over and
over and over again, and so it'swhat's important to them, thus

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being able to manipulate themand get them into believe a
bunch of nonsense that isn'ttrue.
We see this all the time.
Inside of our current paradigmthat we live in, unfortunately,
lies are what dominate today,rather than anything that has to
do with truth.

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When it comes to the media,everybody is trying to tell
their own story, a narrative ofsome sort, and put their own
spin on it and make it so thatway things aren't about whatever
the actual facts are of thatparticular topic that they're
trying to present.
That's just the way that it is.

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Another major technique issomething that can be referred
to as like chaos sorcery orchaos magic or whatever the deal
is.
This is where some sort ofevent has happened that is
chaotic, whether it waspreconceived or just happened

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randomly, and whatnot but theyreally play it up, they really
harp it up to make it so thatway.
They need to control thepopulace more and make it so
that way.
You do what you are told to doby them and that kind of stuff
with it.
And you know people want tofeel secure, so they give up

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their rights during this timeperiod in order to feel more
secure.
For what's going on.
Example of this that happened,you know, is 9-11 for America or
you know, the whole pandemicfor the world and that kind of
thing with it.
We were told that this diseaseexisted and doing all these

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other things that are going onwith that that are that way, and
we were basically compelled inmost countries to behave a
certain way because of mandatesand laws that were passed and
all these other things that haveto do with various different
stuff with it.
I'm not going to get toodetailed on this particular
front at this moment.
I'll be doing that a littlelater on, for what's going on,
we'll come back to this point.

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Another major one is what can bereferred to as subversive
symbolism.
All right, subversive symbolismis where you take something and
use it in such a way as tomanipulate someone in order to
get them to do what you wantthem to do, by bypassing their

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conscious mind and making themact unconsciously about things
with it.
An example of this is, you know, look at Betty Crocker and what
it did in the early 1950s inAmerica.
Betty Crocker had come, thecompany had come up with a new
product.
Betty Crocker had come, thecompany had come up with a new

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product, and this particularinstance, you know, was instant.
You know various differentproducts that are instantly made
by just adding water and thingsof this nature to it.
However, most people at thattime period especially women,
who were the ones that weremainly doing the shopping, just
due to the era that was going onwith it didn't want it, and so,

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rather than admitting defeatand saying, hey, we spent
millions of dollars buildingthis thing that nobody wants,
they came up with a way tomanipulate people.
I'm not going to get into thefull story of that right now,
but the short version of it isis that they decided to uh,
survey people uh, the women's,uh mainly and what the basic

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hurdle was that they had toovercome for the women is that
the women didn't feel like theywere giving their creative
essence, or that they weresomehow cheating, or that, uh,
they weren't giving their loveand care because, again, at this
era, most people were makingtheir own food and all that
other stuff at home, um, ratherthan buying all the crap that's

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already pre-made and whatnot,like most of us do in America
today.
And so what they learned isbasically that the woman felt
like she was not contributing insome way, shape or form.
All right, well, any of hercreative powers and her loving
aspect of stuff.

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What's the most creative thingthat anybody can do in this
world?
Bring new life into it.
Period.
Bringing new life into it isthe most creative act that
anybody can do.
And what does the womancontribute to the act of

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procreation other than just theincubator and making it so?
There's literally lives insideof the woman's womb for a?
You know, the nine months togestation time period.
What she contributes is eggs.
So what did Betty Crocker do?
They made it so that way.
They said just add an egg.

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That's the words they added totheir product, and we know what
happened.
Betty Crocker is a householdname now and it worked because
the egg symbolizes the mostcreative force that a woman can
contribute to the creation ofnew life, and it bypassed all of
the hurdles that people hadabout specifically women here,

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about making it so that way theycan go and buy the product.
This is what occurred.
This is to show how it can bevery easy to manipulate people
when you understand why they'redoing what they're doing and the
symbols that can be used tomake that overcome things with
it.
So another example is variousdifferent logos that are used.

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I'll give one briefly the ShellGas Corporation.
All right, is it really a shellor is it the sun coming up over
the horizon?
If you look at it morecarefully, that's basically what
it is.
And so, since we know we'restealing the life force of the
planet by using the gasoline andwhatnot, which could be like

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the blood of the planet, if youwant to look at it from a
symbolic standpoint, and we needto feel better about ourselves
doing that, because we all knowthat it's not helping the
environment by doing so, then itmakes it so that way.
We need something thatcompensates for that.
The logo is Sun.
Sun is the giver of all life onthis planet, and so, since

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we're taking the life force, weneed something that gets us over
that hurdle of buying it fromthem instead of, say, somebody
else.
And so they chose that logo inorder to make it so.
That way we can feel better, onan unconscious level, about
what we are doing.
This is what it means bysubversive symbolism and some of

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the impacts that it has onpeople's psyche and what goes on
with it in a nutshell.
Another one is theproblem-reaction-solution would
be the simplest layman's termsfor this particular one, also
kind of known as the Hegeliandialectic.
And so this is where somethinghappens in society.

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People react to it, but thenthe solutions that are offered
it doesn't matter which one youtake.
They end up to the same overallroute for people and that kind
of stuff.
Perfect example of this was whenthey were talking about net
neutrality.
You know, a decade ago orwhatever it was, so our choices
were here in America andtherefore how it was going to

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impact the rest of the world,because that's where the
Internet was hosted at the timeperiod, in terms of its
headquarters and everything elseand all the rules that were
being done by it, until wedecided to give it away to the
UN.
Regardless, what had happenedhere is that we had the choice
between the government, whodoesn't care about our privacy,
doesn't care about making thingsgood in any way, shape or form.

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It's literally been shown thatthey're using various different
tools in order to spy on theAmerican people and the world at
large, or to give it tocorporations who wanted to
exploit us for similar purposesand whatnot, but in this case,
mainly for making money inadvertising and whatnot.
And then they were going tosell our data also to the
government to make it, so thatway they can profit even further

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.
These were our two choices.
Yeah, our rights being violatedby either the corporate
overlords or by our governmentaloverlords.
It ends up exactly the same.
It's just a matter of who endsup controlling our data.
How about, instead, we make itso, that way we build the

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protocols into the internet thatprevent anybody from doing this
, which is completely possible,and whatnot?
You'd have to restructure theinternet and it would take some
time, of course, but this wasn'teven brought up as part of the
discussion.
So you can debate it as much asyou want between corporate or
between government, because itdoesn't make any difference, it

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ends up in the same way.
But to make it so that way, yougo and you offer a solution
that actually works for thepeople and removes the overall
ending up at the exact sameplace, which was the point to
begin with.
Then that's not allowed in anyway, shape or form.

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This should have been what wasreally discussed and what was
really brought up, but it neverwas by any of the political
pundits and any way, shape orform that made any real
meaningful strides, becauseobviously it never came to
fruition.
Meaningful strides becauseobviously it never came to
fruition.
This is what we should havebeen doing, but instead we ended
up with the bullshit that we'vegot now, which doesn't actually

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work.
It doesn't actually protectpeople to the way that it should
and makes it so that way.
There are other aspects of thisthat didn't go well.
I'm not going to get into allof it.
It's not the point of this.
I'm just trying to use this toshow you how it works.
Okay, so the final one that Iwill be going over very briefly

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here, because it's going to havean episode or maybe even a
couple of its own in this season, is the Illusion of Time, aka
living in the present moment.
The very short version of thisis that if you aren't living in
the present moment, then youeither are allowing the past to

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dictate what you're doing now oryou're living in fear of the
future, or a combination of both, and this makes it so that way
nothing really gets accomplishedthe way that it should be done
and hinders the results andprogress that everybody wants
for their life and whatnot.

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This is something I'm going todeep dive in another episode a
little later on, and I'm notgoing to go too much into it
because it is directly relevantto the season, which is the
initiate's journey.
So that's all the variousdifferent techniques that can be
used.
I'm sure there's others thatI've forgotten and whatnot that

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are in a nutshell and that kindof thing with it.
These are all been done to makeit so that we manipulate people
.
So now I'm going to go to kindof a way of gauging whether
something's coming from a placethat's being beneficial or from
a place that's not beingofficial.

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That's kind of a general litmustest in order to make it so.
That way we can determinewhether something is right or
wrong, or even none of the above, so to speak, like we don't
know, because there's just notenough information.
So this next part we're goingto be looking at a specific

(32:02):
example in order to help get thepoint across.
But before I get into that, I'mgoing to tell you basically
what it's about.
Basically, it's looking, comingfrom a place of love versus
coming from a place of fear, ora place of respect versus a
place of fear.
You know, it doesn't matterwhat kind of term you want to

(32:24):
put on it and whatnot.
I'm going to use love and fearhere for what's going on,
because it's prettystraightforward when I use it
that particular way.
Four years ago, approximately alittle less than that, a little
more than that, whatever we'vehad, where this thing that we
call COVID-19 started goingacross the world and causing all

(32:47):
these issues, for what wasgoing on with it, and almost
everybody reacted from a placeof fear rather than coming from
a place of respect, trust andlove, especially in places that
we wouldn't expect it to happen,like Western countries.
It was very, you know, alarmingto a lot of people that they

(33:11):
decided to go and do theseparticular things with it.
If you look at most of thecountries that were in the
Western world and whatnot, whatdid they do?
They told everybody to be befearful of this disease.
They made it so that we werefearful of strangers.
They basically told you youneed to behave a certain way and
if you don't, we're going toforce you through mandates and
through laws and through allthese other things that are

(33:32):
going on with it.
We're going to find people whogo against it.
Blah, blah, blah, blah blah.
The point is is that they weremanipulating people by making it
so that way they could go anddrum up fear in the general
population.
To make it so that way theywere more willing to go against

(33:54):
what they actually stand for,what's important to them and
believe and whatnot, and causeproblems for everybody else and
that kind of thing.
This is not the proper way ofhow the information should have
been passed.
They were doing it in such away that it was there literally
to drum up more chaos.
To make it so.

(34:14):
That way people had moreemotional attachment to what was
going on and making it so thatway.
People did not have the respectthat they deserve to make
empowered decision regardingthis.
Now let's look at this incomparison to Sweden this is

(34:37):
generally speaking here.
I'm not talking about on alllevels and whatnot.
Sweden handled it better.
Sweden said okay, there's thisdisease that's been reported
from Wuhan, china.
They're calling it COVID-19.
These are the effects that weare aware of at this particular
stage in time period.

(34:58):
This is what's being reportedby the World Health Organization
.
This is what's been reported byAmerican government through the
CDC and the National Instituteof Health, etc.
And this is what the guidelinesand the parameters and all these
other things that are being putforth that people should be
doing, including six footdistancing, making it so that

(35:22):
way, or two meter distancing, Iguess, for the rest of the world
, wearing a mask, etc.
We are not going to compel youto do.
Of course, the other one has todo with what's being right and
whatnot.
It's not even a contest forwhat's happening with what's
being right and whatnot.
It's not even a contest forwhat's happening People want to

(35:45):
claim oh, it has to do withpeople not being good people and
whatnot, and that if thegovernment didn't force them to
do it, then it wouldn't happenReally.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Really, you believe that, you truly believe that
that's the case for it.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
99% of humanity wants security.
It 99 of humanity wantssecurity.
99 of humanity wants peace.
99 plus percent of humanitywants abundance and prosperity
and love and all these otherthings that are going on with it
, and you believe that they aregoing to somehow behave like
complete jackasses when it comesto, I don't know, let see,

(36:20):
protecting themselves and theirloved ones and whatnot.
That makes zero sense with it,by not getting vaccinated, by
not doing all these other things, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
and making it so that way youknow, people were fighting
amongst each other, or to makeit so that way.
Hey, these are the facts.

(36:41):
Hit so that way.
Hey, these are the facts.
We trust you, now that you knowthese facts, to do the proper
thing.
Of course, the other one has todo with what's being right and
whatnot.
It's not even a contest forwhat's happening.
People want to claim oh, it hasto do with people not being

(37:02):
good people and whatnot, andthat if the government didn't
force them to do it then itwouldn't happen.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Really, Really, you believe that, you truly believe
that that's the case, for it.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
99% of humanity wants security.
99% of humanity wants peace.
99 plus percent of humanitywants abundance and prosperity
and love and all these otherthings that are going on with it
, and you believe that they aregoing to somehow behave like
complete jackasses when it comesto, I don't know, let's see,

(37:34):
protecting themselves and theirloved ones and whatnot.
That makes zero sense.
Human beings areself-interested and because of
that, we want to continue toexist and do things that are
going to benefit us.
For what's happening, and ifwe're informed of things
properly, then we're going tomake it so.
That way, we are going to do,in most instances, the thing

(37:59):
that's going to benefit us thebest, when we truly understand
and see that, yeah, this is areal thing and we need to take
it seriously for what's going on.
Now I'm not going to get intowhether Sweden did better in
terms of its metrics andprotecting people and the
results of that, or whatever thedeal is.
That's not the point of why I'mtalking about this.

(38:19):
The point is to show the twodifferent methodologies that
were used and to show how one ofthem comes from a place of fear
and control and chaos and theother one comes from a place of
letting people choose, respectand, you know, care for their
own citizens and whatnot.

(38:40):
This is the difference that I'mtrying to bring up to show you
how you can use this for alitmus test.
If we go and we look at like alot of stuff that's being done
with the news media and whatnot,almost all of it has to do with
fear and putting you into astate of fear, of fight or
flight and that kind of thing,and that's done on purpose in

(39:03):
order to make it so that way youare not thinking rationally and
make it so that way your stresshormones go up and all these
other things that affect younegatively.
So you can be more manipulatedand they can get what they want
from you, whatever thatparticular agenda is, from that
particular group of people.
That's how it works.
The other one is saying theseare the facts so far as we can

(39:25):
tell.
Here they are.
You make the decision.
Much better way of doing things.
Anyway, I hope that you'vegotten something from this
episode, that it's beenbeneficial in some capacity or
another.
If you have, please make it so.
That way you give a rating forthe podcast.

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If you're on YouTube, pleasesubscribe, and I look forward to
seeing you released in the sameyear as the original is set to
be released in the?

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U.
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