Forever Chemicals

Forever Chemicals

From the creators of Outdoor Minimalist, a new ten-part series sets out to answer questions like: - What are PFAS? - Why is PFAS dangerous? - And how can we move forward in the outdoor industry without PFAS? Over the course of ten episodes, we’ll investigate the origins, rise, and now phase out of the forever chemicals PFAS. If you’re wondering how we can make a difference in the fight against PFAS pollution and keep our planet and our health on the forefront of producers minds, tune into Forever Chemicals, coming March 2024. Learn More: https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/

Episodes

May 27, 2024 3 mins

In this new ten-part series, we sat down with countless experts from brands like Fjallraven and Outdoor Research along with scientists, lawyers, and law makers that all have a stake in how PFAS is used, and how it is now being eliminated.

Over the course of ten episodes, we’ll investigate the origins, rise, and now phase out of the forever chemicals PFAS (previously known as PFCs). With more companies beginning to understand the da...

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A new podcast from Canada's National Observer tells the story of a firefighter’s wife and a corporate lawyer in different parts of the U.S. who get pulled into solving separate mysteries. 

Something was making cows die and deer haemorrhage to death in West Virginia. That same something could also be giving firefighters cancer – all over the country.

When the lawyer and the firefighter’s wife met, they found out they were worki...

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Throughout this ten-part series, scientists, lawyers, advocates, and product producers all weighed in on our worldwide PFAS problem. While, yes, we have come a long way in understanding the scope of the issue and began moving away from PFAS, at least in the outdoor industry, many questions still remain. 

One of the primary questions is, what should we do with all the old PFAS already in the environment?

Guests featured in this epi...

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April 22, 2024 30 mins

Throughout this series, we’ve learned not only about how harmful PFAS is as a class of chemicals but also what the outdoor industry is doing to address the issue. While we may have started too late, we are on the right track now, but the work is far from over. 

Guests featured in this episode:

- Alex Lauver, ⁠⁠⁠Outdoor Research⁠⁠

- James Pollock,⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Marten Law LLP⁠⁠⁠⁠

- Mike Schade,⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠Toxic Free Future⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

- Ammi Borenstein, ...

If you’ve listened to the Forever Chemicals podcast up until this point or followed the global contamination issue over the last few decades, then you’ll know the name Robert Bilott. 

In this exclusive season one BONUS episode, we hear from Robert Bilott on the current state of the PFAS problem. He emphasizes the crucial role of litigation and advocacy in pushing for necessary regulation, making it clear that our involvement is not...

April 15, 2024 33 mins

It seems that many brands are moving in the right direction in terms of phasing PFAS out of their products, but one of the many aspects complicating this process is the potential for contamination.

In this episode, we hear directly from leading outdoor industry brands like Keen, Outdoor Research, Fjallraven, and Houdini Sportswear alongside scientists and environmental epidemiologists about how and why PFAS spreads and contaminate...

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April 8, 2024 35 mins

As we learned in earlier episodes, phase-out and regulatory efforts for PFAS were not swift, and they certainly are not complete.

However, because of the recent regulatory changes on consumer goods, specifically in California, many US-based outdoor brands and chemical companies have finally committed to removing PFAS from their products. 

Guests featured in this episode:

- Greg Brietmier, Mystery Ranch

- Mike Schade,⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Toxic Fr...

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April 1, 2024 28 mins

The goal of this series is to provide useful information for consumers regarding PFAS, specifically within the outdoor industry, but also for those of us working in the industry. I learned from every single person that I interviewed and talked to about the topic of PFAS, and one of the patterns I noticed during production was that most of the European brands like Jack Wolfskin, Fjallraven, and Houdini Sportswear were early adopters...

As more regulations come into play, many outdoor brands have moved the needle and promised to phase PFAS out of their products and apparel by 2025. 

While this is great news, what’s curious as a consumer is that alternative chemistry has existed for quite some time. Brands like Nikwax never needed to use harmful chemicals to achieve waterproof capabilities, and now Nikwax is one brand leading the charge with industry-wide innovatio...

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Regulatory efforts across the globe have been pushing for removing certain types of PFAS in specific product categories. Still, there are many limitations, and regulators often receive pushback from chemical companies.

In episode four of the Forever Chemicals ten-part podcast series, we break down the increase of PFAS regulation in the US and the EU, along with the limitations we face in the pursuit of cleaner chemistry.

Guests f...

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In episode three of the Forever Chemicals ten-part podcast series, we give an overview of how PFAS is used in modern-day production, and get an inside look at why it became a performance chemistry in the outdoor industry.

Guests featured in this episode:

- Mike Schade,⁠ ⁠⁠Toxic Free Future⁠⁠⁠

- Ammi Borenstein, Snaplinc Consulting

- Arlene Blum,⁠ ⁠⁠Green Science Policy Institute ⁠⁠⁠

- Stefan Posner, ⁠⁠textile and polymer chemist⁠⁠

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In the first episode of this ten-part series, we explore where PFAS came from and how it became a prevalent part of our consumer products.

While the innovation of this class of chemicals has been astoundingly effective in applications like firefighting foams, waterproof rain jackets, and Teflon pans, our appetite for convenience created a toxic chemistry we may have to live with forever. 

In the next episode of Forever Chemicals, w...

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PFAS are a large class of chemicals that have been used since the late 1930s. What makes them particularly hazardous is that they are persistent and difficult to break down. That means all the PFAS that have even been created still exist today.

In the first episode of this ten-part series, we learned the history of how PFAS was created.

In episode two, we get a better understanding of just how dangerous PFAS chemicals are and how ...


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