August 25, 2025 • 39 mins
Have you ever experienced that magical moment when everything just clicks? When your body seems to operate on autopilot, performing at levels beyond what you thought possible? That elusive mental state often called "flow state" or "being in the zone" is exactly what we explore in this episode.
Fresh off competing at the Stronger Things Showdown, Liz shares her remarkable experience of entering a flow state during deadlifts, a first in her 16+ meet career. "I knew without a shadow of a doubt, whatever was on that bar, I was going to deadlift it," she explains, describing the peculiar yet powerful sensation of complete trust in her abilities. This mental breakthrough helped her secure an impressive 981-pound total while going 8 for 9 on lifts and setting multiple state records.
Our conversation delves into what creates these peak performance moments and how to cultivate them in your own training. We break down the simple yet profound concept of "don't think, just do" – the ability to silence your analytical mind and let your trained body take over. As we discuss, we find this isn't something you can fake; it requires technical mastery, consistent practice, and developing unshakeable trust in your preparation and training.
Whether you're a competitive athlete or simply someone who wants to perform better in your chosen activities, this episode offers practical insights on developing pre-performance rituals, creating consistent setups, and building the foundation necessary to access your own flow state. The best part? This mental skill isn't reserved for elite athletes – it's available to anyone willing to put in the deliberate practice.
Ready to unlock a new level of performance by learning when to stop thinking and just do? Listen now, and discover how to get out of your own way and tap into the incredible potential your body already possesses.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's going on, you guys?
Welcome to another episode ofthe Fortis After Hours podcast.
I'm your co-host, nate, joinedby my wife, liz hey, and we have
another awesome episode plannedfor you guys today.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Surprise, surprise.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Oh yes, maybe a surprise that we did an episode
this week.
Sorry about that last week, butwe were busy last week at a
competition all day Saturday andthen kind of catching up on
work and things on Sunday, so wewere unable to record.
But we're back and this weekwe're going to be rolling
through kind of a little bit ofa recap of the competition.
I know some people like that.
(00:33):
Some people, I think, skipthese episodes.
That's okay, because if you'realready here, I'm actually going
to title it something else sothat you don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
But that's not all we're talking about, though.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Exactly it's, so that you don't know.
But that's not all we'retalking about, though.
Exactly it's not, and thenyou're stuck.
I guess you can skip along, butanyways, yeah.
So we're going to talk aboutkind of the concept of don't
think, kind of simple, but we'lldive into it later, but I think
it can be beneficial to almostevery single human being,
especially people that engage inany kind of sporting activity,
(01:07):
where you need to kind of havethat instinct and ability to
turn everything off and just go.
So we're going to discuss thattoday, but first, like I said,
we're going to just kind of talkabout the meet this past
weekend so it was called the BarStronger Things.
(01:27):
I was going to say StrangerThings, the Bar Stronger Things
Showdown.
It was kind of like a play offthe TV show Stranger Things.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Which is probably why you were going to say Stranger
Things, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Which quick little sidebar on that.
I really believe that the onlygood season of Stranger Things
was one.
What about you?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I honestly don't remember them.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I couldn't tell you what happened in what season, or
what seasons.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I've seen All right.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Well, season one, I'll just talk to myself.
Then Season one was, I think,really good.
Season two is, and then I feellike it just got really not good
.
That's my opinion, I don't know.
I know a lot of Season two is,eh, and then I feel like it just
got really not good.
That's my opinion, I don't know.
I know a lot of people lovethat show, but I think they
really missed the ball afterseasons one and two.
But the first two seasons aregreat.
If you've never seen them, Ithink they're on Netflix and I
think they're coming out with afinale season soon.
(02:17):
I will not be watching that.
I.
I got football to watch fantasyfootball this year.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh boy, yep, All the fantasy football.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, someone asked me if you wanted to do a fantasy
football team.
What would actually be yourresponse to that?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
No is the answer.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I told them no, but I was like, I mean, you could ask
.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
The answer is no, you could ask her.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Okay, anyway.
So yeah, it was called theStronger Things Showdown and it
was a one day, one platform meet.
Unusual because I feel likeeverything's two day, two
platform, 10 platforms, uh, butI just, you've been to a lot of
like bigger meets, yeah, and Ido I have to say?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I just do like just the one singular platform, all
the attention one day a littlebit shorter too, because it was
there was, I think, 40 30, Ithink it was like 37 people
ended up doing it, which, if youknow or don't know um meets
usually cap at like 60 yeah,like 50 or 60 yeah and then
(03:13):
that's a four flight full day oflifting, although some meets
are now going to sessions wherethey have morning session and
afternoon session anyways thisis short.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It was a little bit of a smaller meet which honestly
was really nice.
I was going to say it was superappreciated, at least on our
end.
I enjoyed one, that it was justa little bit shorter.
Two, all the attention is onthe lifters all at once.
That's something I don't likeabout the two-platform thing.
And then also I will say theydid a really good job with the
production of the meat.
(03:45):
They had a lot of cool thingsgoing on.
Nothing was too distracting,except for the fire.
I'm not going to lie.
There's a couple times when I'mwalking by and I'm like, oh my
God, I'm like this fire betternot come at me, I'm going to
knock it over.
But it never did.
So we're good, good to go.
But it was like real fire, soyou could like feel it Like a
couple of times I was likefilming, I was like okay.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I didn't get that close to it.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, but either way, yeah, the production was real
good and we had seven peoplecompeting, including Liz.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
We did.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
And they all did great.
Yeah, everybody did really good.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It was overall a really good day.
We it was really good.
It was overall a really goodday.
We had seven all seven ladies,so we were all in the same
flight together, which made itreally fun.
Everyone was together, everyonewarmed up together.
Well, like two racks, becauseseven is too many people for one
, but anyways, we all warmed uptogether, we all lifted together
.
It was just like a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, it was a good time and we did have some people
come out and help us, which isalways really appreciated.
So, for those of you that cameout of help, we really
appreciate that because thatmakes my job a lot easier.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yes, especially when I'm lifting too.
I mean it always helps justhaving extra hands that's always
nice when we have multiplepeople lifting, like to either
help out in the warm-up room orrun and get stuff if someone
needs something, or justwhatever people might need
assistance for, but especiallywhen I'm lifting, though, or the
other way around, if you'relifting and I'm coaching or
(05:14):
whatever yeah, definitely givesus an extra hand, which is very
nice it's nice to have everybodythere um one.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's kind of like a force multiplier because, like,
I can be doing like 80 differentthings at once because I have
all One.
It's kind of like a forcemultiplier because I can be
doing like 80 different thingsat once because I have all the
help.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Plus it's cool like built-in cheerleaders for
everyone from our Fortis team.
That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
It's also just really cool to see everybody support
each other, so that's cool aswell.
And then it also just helpseverything run smoothly.
Specifically in the warm roomit can get a little chaotic
that's just kind of nature ofthe beast.
But it's nice when you have aplan and help to execute the
plan, because it makes it run alot smoother.
So if you came to help out,thank you so much.
(05:55):
If you came out to support,also, thank you so much.
We saw all you guys and weappreciate the support, because
without that it's kind of boring.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It's way more boring.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, we do appreciate the help and support
tremendously and it's just funto see people in the crowd
wearing Fortis shirts and stufflike that.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I will say that I saw one couple.
They came out, john and Tia,and then they were wearing
matching shirts from our latestdrop the purple one, which is
highly coveted, now the lavenderone.
It's a good color.
Yeah, but hold on.
So I was like watching or I sawthem and I kind of you know
(06:40):
whatever, sit, wave head, nod,something, and then, like I was
just kind of like surveying thecrowd, I don't know like looking
around the crowd, and then likeI saw someone Hold on.
This is funny.
I saw someone else like wearingthat like same color shirt, so
I was like, oh, someone else hasit and I'm just like staring at
them for like a while.
Nope, I don't know that personand I just looked away and it
(07:03):
was just like the same colorshirt not the same shirt.
No okay it was definitely arandom person, perfect.
I was like all right well nevermind, that's perfect, you know
I like to acknowledge people forcoming out supporting, so you
know, but anyways, yeah, so weappreciate that.
Um, and then, as far as ourlifters, yeah, like I said, like
everyone did a really good job.
(07:24):
We had the first three slotssecured first, second and third
place for the women's drugtesting side um, for like the
overall uh which is pretty coolto do, I would say kind of a
clean sweep of the podium thereuh so that's pretty cool.
Um, we had Coach Liz leadingthe way she did a SPD day for
(07:50):
her meet coming up or fortraining for her meet coming up
in whatever two weeks now.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Three weeks, three weeks, three weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And how do you think you did, and how do?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
you think you did Well.
I actually had fun, which waskind of the whole goal of this.
So I'm sure if you've beenlistening to the podcast for a
while, you've heard the story ofmy life and or my brain and or
my meats for the last lots ofyears.
But specifically last year itkind of like I don't even know
(08:27):
rock bottom.
I guess we found it.
Um, so this year my life and orbrain or whatever it's gotten a
little bit back on track.
So I decided it's beenessentially a year since I
competed and I thought it mightbe good to kind of get back on
the platform again with like alittle different brain situation
(08:51):
happening.
Before I had to go step on theplatform at Surge.
If you don't know, I did thissame Surge meet the one I'm
doing up in Chicago in Septembertwo years ago, same surge meet
the one I'm doing up in chicagoin september two years ago, and
it was kind of like thebeginning of the downfall, of
hitting rock bottom.
I feel like two years ago.
(09:13):
Like yeah, I feel like some ofthe other ones weren't really
great.
But then I feel like that onereally was like the beginning of
like the tumbling, like I kindof thought that was like the
bottom and then it like kind ofgot worse the next year.
So I felt like it was probablygood to kind of get back on the
platform, because I'm sure therewill be some nerves and
(09:34):
anticipation like leading intothat meet um, just in general,
to the same spot to beat it yes,I want some redemption from
that got itfrom where it started.
But I figured it would probablybe smart since there was a
local meet, um, and it all linedup like perfectly with my
training, that I could just goand do essentially a heavy spd
(09:55):
day, um, a few weeks out fromthe meet.
I was supposed to do heavysingles that week in training.
Anyways, it was leading into adeload week the following week.
So like everything kind ofperfectly lined up with training
, so we decided to go in andjust do that with a very
specific numbers in mind nottrying which is honestly hard
(10:16):
for both of us because, likeonly on my deadlift
yeah, well maybe for you.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, it was harder for you once I realized, like,
how close we were to a thousand.
I was like, oh, like and I'mlike pretty sure we could have
hit it, so like.
But then I had to tell myselfI'm like nope, nope, that's not
part of the plan that's one ofmy.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So I know I've said before but some of my, my goals
for this surge meet in septemberis one a little bit of
redemption, so I just want tolike show up, perform well and
have fun.
That's kind of like first andforemost.
Second is to beat my numbersfrom the surge meet I did two
years ago.
(10:55):
And then thirdly, thirdly,whatever would be to total yeah
to total a thousand pounds, andthis meat, the Stronger Things
Showdown that I just did Itotaled 981.
So it's like 10 kilos awaybasically.
(11:16):
So we're definitely encroachingon that territory of being able
to give a little extra push andthen, hopefully, with a nice
little peek, and taper into themeat.
Um, if everything goes kind ofaccording to plan and I'm able
to execute it again, um, I thinkthat thousand pounds is a real
(11:41):
possibility which is funnybecause when I set that goal,
whenever I decided I was doingthis meet and said those were my
goals, I want to say this waslike back in march, when they
like I think it's like march ishtime frame, maybe april, I
don't know it was like in thespring sometime when they
started this and I had those asmy goals, like from the
beginning, like they have notchanged, um, but I definitely
(12:04):
thought the thousand pounds waslike a pretty big stretch to get
back to.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, but I remember that now I feel like it's
actually like somewhat arealistic possibility yeah which
is cool yeah um, yeah, um yeah,so yeah, that's, I think I
think, well, I think one of thebiggest things is that is uh,
(12:30):
coming together this year islike my brain well, yeah, but uh
, but also, like in the coachingaspect, something that I have
gotten together in my brain isthat for a long time, like I
realized how strong liz waspretty early on, she can tell
you that, um, yeah, but she isjust realizing that like now it
seems.
So that's like, uh, we've beentogether for 10 years, so yeah,
(12:54):
anyways.
Um, and I think like early on I, because I knew she was like
capable of so much, I'm like, ohyeah, like we could do this, we
could do this, we could do that, and like I think, maybe
unintentionally, I put likesuper high expectations and then
you already do that to yourself.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, it probably wasn't a great combo.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I don't think I knew exactly that level of like
expectations that you would puton yourself.
Anyways, yeah and now.
But then after a while I justwell, no.
Then you know, you kind of hadthis whatever thing start like
2023, when you're really likeanti, like pretty much done with
powerlifting, and I was like,okay, I just need to like back
(13:32):
off a little bit.
And I did that.
And then I realized that, like,you kind of already take care
of the expectations for yourself, so I just need to make sure
that your body is strong enoughand ready to meet those
expectations that you set up foryourself.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Because I think before a big thing was, I was
like I said like maybe likeputting extra two extra
expectations, maybe like puttingextra two extra expect
expectations and then two.
Something we've learnedtraining wise is liz is very
strong every single day.
Uh, so we just need to makesure that her body is ready to
perform on a specific day.
(14:10):
Um, and, of course, we stillgot to do work to make sure she
get there.
Gets there, but at this leveland just her age like, and
training age, like real age andtraining age.
It is very specific things thatwe need to have her do to get
to that, and I think we'rereally together dialing in on
exactly what those things are tomake sure you're at your peak
(14:31):
strength on a given day yeah,and I feel like that's probably
true to be said for a lot ofpeople that there are things
that like very specific thingsfor a lot of people that they
could do.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And I would just say, the longer that you're with
your coach, I mean obviouslywe're together, which so it's
like kind of different but thelonger you're with your coach,
the more you trust andcommunicate and talk to your
coach about like literally asmuch as you possibly can going
on in your life.
Um, like, the better they'rethey will be able to, like help
prepare you for the platform orgive you tips and things to work
(15:04):
around things or alter yourprogramming or alter anything,
but just going to throw that outthere.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
The more you communicate, the longer that
time is, the better the coachingrelationship is going to be.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Because, like the first meet that you do with
someone, like as a coach, likeI'm not saying it's not going to
go well, but, like your coachisn't going to necessarily know
little every nuance of you andso the longer that they coach
you, the more of the littlenuances they can learn and
really like hone in exactly what?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
just yeah, the more precise they can be as a coach,
and that's just kind of how.
That's just kind of how thingswork, is just yeah, it was just
a reminder.
Just a reminder I was going tosay like, the closer and the
more communication you can belike direct communication with
your clients and or like, ifyou're a client with your coach,
(15:56):
letting them know where thingsare at that's just going to
allow them to produce a betterprogram for you.
Because, remember, we'rewriting these programs with the
information that you give usright.
So, like it's just kind of youknow if we see this.
But then it's like, oh well,really this felt like this, but
I just didn't say that.
It's like okay, like, so youknow, giving us details and
(16:18):
making sure that we're dialed inis going to make sure that you
get the best product and thebest possible outcome for your
specific meat day.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yes, so anyways, back to how the meat actually went,
because that's sort of where Iwas going with all of that on my
little tangent there, and thena second tangent that I went on
On my little tangent there, andthen a second tangent that I
went on, but so I totaled 981pounds.
I went eight for nine, whichboth of these were like the best
that I've done in a really longtime.
(16:48):
Honestly, going eight for nineis probably like one of the
first, I would say handful oftimes that that's ever probably
happened.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I feel like I was going eight for nine.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, I would need to go back and look.
I feel like I'm usually prettygood for 7, for 9 or less,
especially lately.
You sound like.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Gary, that's what he says.
I just need 6 lists for good.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
But I want to start doing better, so I was excited
that I went 8 for 9.
However, that third bench stilleludes me.
Per the usual.
So we went three for three onsquats ended with 358.
Two for three on bench per theusual, ending with 193.
But maybe we change some thingsafterwards.
Learn some things from the meet, I don't know Stay tuned.
(17:35):
Tweaks to bench plus training.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
We'll see.
We'll see.
Yeah, we'll find out.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Tweaks to bench plus training.
We'll see.
We'll see this week, yeah,we'll find out.
And then so I benched 193,which was a PLU state record.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
There you go.
And we had some other people'shit state records as well,
correct?
Yes, we had three other liftershit state records.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Who were there?
Rachel and Kelsey, I think, hitsquat, bench, deadlift and
total state record for their ageand weight class.
And then Skyla got the squatand total for her weight class,
the total.
The only one that matters.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Nice, very cool, very cool, yes, so state record.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yes For bench at 193.
Yes, so state record.
Yes, for a bench at 193.
And then deadlift.
I ended with 429, which is alsoa state record, and it was the
most that I've deadlifted in ameet since March of 2022.
I had been very stuck at thislike 424 range.
(18:42):
I think I chipped it at onemeet so it was like 425 because
that was a state record.
So I've pulled 424 at a goodchunk of my last few meets that
I did.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
And you pulled that a couple times at the gym, but
then something else has happened, or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Well, usually my brain happened and then the
beginning of the meet wasterrible, so then I could not
like execute.
Yeah, basically um, and then Ihurt my back yeah, for one of
the meets.
I hurt my back, so that endedup being really bad.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
And then I don't know it was anyways a whole
situation so, anyways, that wasa 429.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
but what was really cool that day, which I could not
ever tell you, the last timeI've ever had this feeling, if
I've ever had this feeling Iknew like, basically without a
shadow of a doubt, whatever wason that bar, I was going to
deadlift it that day, and I'venever really had that feeling.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And that right there is the topic of the podcast In
training, in a meet likeliterally I have never felt that
way.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
The plan was the 429 attempt, so that was what we
stuck with because that was one,like I said, I hadn't
deadlifted more than the 424.
So that was the next jump, solike that was kind of good, just
to just to get that.
And then also it just kind oflines up everything for the rest
of prep, without trying to likeovershoot like crazy for that
(20:07):
day, but basically whatever wason the bar I was going to
deadlift it so and like I hadreally no doubt that it was
going to happen, yeah and youcould tell that I've never like.
That was the weirdest feelingyeah my brain didn't really know
what that was.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
You're locked in.
You're in the zone, yeah Iguess you could uh you could
tell watching you, which wasreally cool.
I told I was talking to youabout that the other day just
because, like I don't know, likeyou said, like I I don't know,
I'm not sure really, if I'veever seen you like that like
you're.
I've seen you like that acouple times at the gym, but I
think we know like it's a littleeasier, I think, for you
relatively to like train.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
But I still don't think that.
I've ever felt like that, thatlike, whatever, like I knew like
there would be some days whereI'd be like, oh, I know, I'm
going to lift this, likewhatever it is.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
But like it was just different Cause, I was like I
don't care what he puts on thebar, I'm just going to go pick
it up and lift it.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
So I don't know yeah no, you're in the zone.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Apparently, you're in the don't think zone and yeah,
that's kind of what I wanted totalk about today.
Was that ability?
We'll call it just like beingin the zone, or being kind of
like in that flow state In themoment Yep, in the moment.
(21:26):
That flow state in the moment,yep, in the moment.
Flow state in the zone,whatever you want to call it but
uh, we all know what that is.
Now, some of you may not haveexperienced that yet in your
life, um, but the first time Ihad, if you've watched yeah, if
you've watched any type ofsporting event or any type of
like high skill event.
So if you don't want to call ita sport, but like something that
requires a high amount of skillat a high level, you're gonna
see people kind of be in thatlike zone and that flow state
whatever you want to call itwhere they're not really there,
(21:47):
but they're there, you know,like they're just like somewhere
else, and I think that that's athing that is not unique to
powerlifting and that is likefound, like I said, kind of in
like top skill, top levels ofall different types of things,
whether it's like skilledathlete, even like a skilled
(22:09):
worker, like if someone is likea your work with your hands or
maybe do like photography, likethings like this like there's
just like a certain, a certainlevel of like focus, that like
when you can tap into and thekey is you can't tap into it at
all times, but when you can tapinto it, like Liz said, it feels
like nothing can go wrong andlike it's like your body is so
(22:30):
focused and like your energy isso focused on what you're doing
that you can do, truly likesuperhuman type things and, like
I said, I don't think that thisis by any means, uh, exclusive
to powerlifting, um, but youknow, I would say for the
purpose of our podcast, likejust talking about physical
(22:53):
endeavors since this is kind oflike a fitness podcast.
Um the better that you can getat something, um the more
freedom you're going toexperience when you're in that
flow state.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
So yeah, well, I think some of it is just also
like a weird, like almost likesubconscious trust in yourself
and what you're doing, that youjust like deep down, like just
know that, like what you'redoing is what you're supposed to
be doing and you know how to dowhat you're going to do, and
like you've trusted essentiallythe process as well as yourself
(23:31):
to get you to, uh, like thatpoint in where you are yeah, and
I think like there's I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I think there's something to be said for being
able to, like you said, liketrust your body, trust your mind
, trust all of your training.
Yeah, to where there's likenothing, like you're only just
focusing on the task at hand.
You're not thinking aboutanything else.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Um, yeah because I've like done, obviously, a lot of
meets at this point.
I was trying to count.
I think it's been like 16 or 17, because I was looking at that.
The other day I was looking atmy open powerlifting when they
pulled this one or when this onegot loaded into it, yeah, and I
want to say there's like 16 or17.
If you didn't know, when you'relistening to this, there's a
website called Open Powerliftingthat logs and tracks every
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powerlifting, meet everypowerlifter, and you can just
search your name and you canfind all of your results.
Sometimes it might be under twodifferent names, if you have two
different names and then youhave to get them combined.
But that's okay, mine is alsoseparate.
Again, I have a second one.
I gotta work on that, um,anyway.
So I was looking at open powerlifting and, oh, I forgot where
(24:43):
I was going with this, though,nice I've done 16, 17 meets is
where I was going, and thensomething I don't know what
you're talking about.
Oh, I think.
Basically, I think my point waslike there's every other meet
and literally every other lift.
I have been like extremelynervous for them.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Like before I lift.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I mean not like I guess extremely might be a
little bit of an exaggeration,but like definitely first
attempts were always extremelynerve wracking for me, just
because my brain and then Idon't know lately, some of all
of them have been.
But even like this pastSaturday, like I wouldn't say I
like got into this like weirdstate of mind until I found
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deadlifts for some reason.
Until like we got to deadliftsstate of mind until I found
deadlifts for some reason, oruntil, like, we got to deadlifts
.
Um.
So I would say like someone'slike, oh cool, like I want to do
that for a meet.
Like I don't even think I couldreally tell you how it happened
, um, because I wasn't liketrying to go to whatever my
brain went, to flow state,whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, so like I don't even know that I could
necessarily tell someone likehow to do that well, I think,
see and that's the thing is thatI think, yes, I think one it
can just happen like naturally,like you're saying.
I think like you can also cueit to happen using like certain
songs or certain thoughts orcertain emotions, things like
this.
But I think and this is what Ikind of wanted to talk about
(26:18):
mainly is pretty simple.
But in order to get to thatstate, you have to have like
mastery of whatever you'retrying to do.
So there's, of course,different levels and I'm not
saying like like I'm not,there's no like numerical thing,
I'm not associating any likeI'm not, there's no like
numerical thing, I'm notassociating any like numbers
with this.
But you do have to have liketechnical mastery of the tasks
you're going to do to be able toget into that state, because
you need to get to a situation.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Like you don't have to be thinking about your cues.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
You're literally not thinking about anything other
than like Liz said she's likethe only thought that was going
through my brain.
The only thought that was goingthrough my brain.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
No, you weren't even thinking about that all you
thought was whatever goes on thebar, I'm lifting it up so like,
yeah, I mean, but yes, but mypoint is is like it's not like
you're like okay, I gotta likeroot my feet.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I gotta like get my groups in.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I gotta like you, literally were just like go,
like whenever they say go, goand well, and I, because like
it's funny, like I'll I watchthe videos, and um was funny.
Someone asked me I can'tremember who it was Someone I
was training.
They were like, oh, you set updifferently at meets than you do
in training.
And I was like, no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
And they're like no, you didn't pull on the bar like
you do, so they're like whatever, I post all my stuff and I was
like no, I promise you, they areexactly the same yeah and I
pulled up videos and they areexactly the same every single
one, like all three of myattempts at the meet all of my
like really all of my lifts atthe gym.
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They all start out the sameexact way, and I think by doing
that in training also carriesover to well, yes, I'm, I guess,
I don't think I know it carriesover to the platform to then be
able to better go into thatzone of just lifting, because I
(28:03):
did not have to think at all, Ijust set up exactly the same
every time.
I have a little routine ofbreathing and hands and whatever
I do every time, and it isliterally every time.
So then you just do that andthen your body like knows what
to do.
If you are kind of like youwere saying, though, if you are
(28:23):
still like newer to lifting andyou're not like 100% confident
on your form and you still haveto cue yourself when you're
lifting, you might not be ableto go to this like just go,
which is okay.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, that's fine, and that's that's what.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Like I said, I've been doing this, 16 meets 17
meets, and this is the firsttime I've ever, ever felt that
and and, yeah, I I think thatit's a combination of.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It's a combination of skill, um, and like mastery of
skill, and then also the abilityto go into that fight or flight
, which some people can doeasier than others.
Some people are in constantlyand they don't realize it, some
people have never experiencedthat before.
But it all starts withsomething that we all can do is
to really focus in, like Lizsaid, on every session, treating
(29:10):
every rep uh, like it is yourtop set, and that's something I
struggle with.
Um, I'm not perfect at it.
Liz is pretty perfect, I'm notgonna lie.
She's pretty good at it, um,but you know, for me that's
something that, like I got towork on for sure is to like keep
everything locked in, make surethat I'm focusing on every rep
(29:31):
that I do, and then when I do dothat, I have very good workout
sessions and generally I performpretty well on me day because I
can get into at least a fightor flight state, like on demand.
Now, there are some times whenI'm like, like Liz said, kind of
in a flow state, like in mylast meet, the only one that I
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was actually like in a kind oflike flow state for was my
squats.
I didn't know like I knew whatwas going on.
But I really just didn't knowwhat was going on, but I knew I
was going to get all the squats,like I just knew it was going
to happen.
Um, I had like people talkingto me, like other competitors I
had like you and cadran and garylike talking to me.
I'm just like I don't, like Ijust I knew what I was gonna go
do and I just did it bench anddeadlift.
(30:12):
That was more.
I was more present for thosebecause I had I'd already done
those lifts that's funny, minewas the opposite yeah, I just
needed those to, uh, secure mytotal.
But yeah, I was like the mostclear state of that was
definitely then.
So, yeah, so if you'relistening to this, you're like
how do I get to that?
So, number one, make sure thatyou are.
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Make sure you are practicingexactly how you want to compete
and taking your trainingsessions seriously, you know.
So, like if you want, like whatwe're talking about is a pretty
advanced state of mind, so likeif you want to become that type
of lifter, then, like you doneed to take those training
sessions seriously.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
It was honestly really cool.
Like I wish I could make myselfdo this all the time.
I mean, I understand that's notrealistic, I understand that
it's definitely, but it was areally cool feeling.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
What Liz is describing in the kind of flow
state that she's talking about,is definitely in combination
with adrenaline, which which youdo not have unlimited taps
trust me I've tried.
It doesn't work, but, um, butyou can definitely like, uh, I
think, like I said, I think youcan cue yourself to get in that
zone with different like songs,things like this, um, but if
(31:23):
you're listening, how do I dothis?
Like I said, start, start makingsure all those reps look
perfect and that you feelcomfortable with your cues and
what you're doing.
I think the second thing ismaking sure you are like focused
before your reps.
So, you know, I mean Mila's ona gym and we train in the same
(31:47):
gym, so obviously people talk tous, right, uh, but like, right
now, we've kind of likedeveloped a system where it's
like, you know, once we're readyto hit a lift, we either, you
know, put the headphones in or,uh, you know it'd be like, hey,
just give me one second.
So that way you don't reallyneed a ton of time, but you do
need to be focused when you'redoing whatever you're doing.
And that's something that Ithink sometimes, like people
(32:09):
overlook is you know they'rehanging out with friends, which
is awesome, like, of course,like we like hanging out and
talking to people, of course,but when it's time to lift, got
to lock in and got to get youknow your body ready to lift
that weight.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
So I have like there's like different cues for
me.
Like I can be like talking andwhatever for squats as soon as I
put my hands on the bar, likewhatever for squats as soon as I
put my hands on the bar, likeif anyone like watches me I mean
I do this every time but like Istand there with my hands on
the bar for a second and take acouple breaths before I even
like pull myself under.
That is me like focusing on,like yeah what I'm doing bench.
(32:42):
I sit down on the bench and Ikind of sit there for a second
same thing um deadlifts.
I do stand there also like Iset my feet and then I kind of
like stand there and likebreathe for a couple seconds I
was just gonna say it's veryspecific to what I do, but
that's like, even if I'm liketalking or whatever else, like
warming up, I will do that tolike make sure I'm very present
(33:06):
in the moment for my warmups too.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, and I was just going to say I think like the
last thing kind of is, uh, takea deep breath.
Like it seems silly, but thatwas actually something imparted
uh to me by, uh my friend and aguy that coached me in Olympic
weightlifting, tyler, and at thetime I was like pretty young
and just didn't want to hear it,but he's like you should always
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take a breath before you likehit your like a deep breath
before you like hit your weight.
And this is Olympic lifting,which is, and the whole sport is
like flow state, to be honest,like that you got to really be
in like a state of trance typesituation to hit those things
because the weights are flyingover your head.
You got to catch it at the righttime, a lot of timing.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Couldn't be me.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
And he'd always tell me he's like yeah, you just got
to take a deep breath.
I'm like what?
I'm like what?
Like we're lifting weights andnow squats it's because I tell
(34:12):
you yeah, I don't know.
Yeah and I the squats definitelymake me the most like nervous,
so like I'm like I gotta take adeep breath.
I'm like all right, you can dothis and I do it, um, bench and
dead and deadlifts.
Like I said, if I do, if I dodo that, then it always seems to
work out good.
So I think that's maybe threethings you guys can start
practicing to find your flowstate and or get in the zone and
(34:36):
or don't think, just do, andthe whole don't think thing,
think, just do, um, and thewhole don't think thing.
To kind of close out with that.
That came from that little liketwo word thing, came from a
book that I'm listening toreading, whatever you want to
call it listening to okay, abook that I'm listening to and
in one of the chapters they werediscussing that as a cue.
(34:58):
Like they're like you know,sometimes the world's best
athletes or whatever, like thesepeople.
They're like thinking aboutthis, that and the other and
like the last thing, like theperson will just like look at
him.
He's like yeah, uh, what youneed to be doing is just don't
think, and the point of this is,if you practice enough and you
know how to do what you're gonnado, then.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
That's the key, though, is you gotta have that
done first.
That foundation has to be donefirst.
I'm just clarifying again.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yes, just to clarify you cannot do that without
having put in the hours and thethousands of hours of practice
to make perfect, so to speak.
But the point of the cue wasjust don't think and just do.
Your body already knows what itneeds to be doing.
You just have to do it.
Do.
Your body already knows what itneeds to be doing.
You just have to do it.
(35:44):
And for someone like yourselfwho has put in tens of thousands
of hours of powerlifting, thatis the spot where you need to be
Like every cue should just bedon't think.
Like your body knows what to do, you are strong enough to do it
.
You just got to go do it.
And I really think I mean it'sevident.
I mean wouldn't you say it'sevident by like the change
you've had this year, that likeyour own brain was like, or your
(36:04):
mind, so to speak was likeprobably more my enemy getting
in the way than anything else.
Yes, I mean like now with theand and you, just you just
showed that off on that daywhich made me like so happy.
It was like it was like an outof body experience for me,
because I just looked over andthere's liz like I can't like
portray it on the podcast, butshe's just, like you know, kind
of like bopping her head, likejust locked it, which like she
(36:25):
does not do like if you know, mywife she does not do this shit.
so I'm like, all right, shedoesn't know where she is,
perfect.
Like she's like because, like Idon't know, you're just like
locked into the moment and Iknew I'm like, oh yeah, this is
good, she's gonna cook this,because we were there to secure
what we were there to securelike total wise win the meet,
(36:48):
and I don't know, I didn't havelike a there's not a shadow in
my mind that you're going tomiss any of the attempts, except
my third attempt, bench.
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
You still like I told you youmessed that one up, you like
brought it down on your neckalmost.
Anyways.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Well, my shoulder popped.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, whatever I didn't like it Anyways.
So my point is it was just coolto see you get into that state
and I think that, to kind ofwrap it up, I think that you
don't have to be at some whatyou would consider, because I
know you guys listening like Idon't know, like you think
certain things are what make youstrong, like number wise.
(37:26):
Look like you don't have to beat that, at that state, that
state of strength or whateverstandard you're setting, to get
into this kind of like flowstate, and really you can apply
this to any sport.
But the one thing, like I said,that you have to have this in
common is the hours, thepractice.
You have to practice what yourskill is, what you're trying to
(37:47):
achieve, to get into this kindof like flow state and get into
the space where you can notthink and just do.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
We'll see if we can do that again in three weeks.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yep, that's what we're about to do.
So, yeah, if you guys, like Isaid, if you're listening and
you're maybe wondering like okay, like how can I apply this,
reach out, let us know.
We'd love to help you guysapply this to your own life.
But if you really want to getstarted, what you should do is
start practicing what we justtalked about now and then maybe
(38:27):
like reach out to us for helpand be like, hey, I've already
been practicing this.
That's what I'm talking about.
Yeah, exactly, uh, becausedefinitely, like liz said, the
bare minimum, uh, to put anumber on it is that 10 000
hours like you got to be atleast 10 000 or 10 000 hours in,
so to speak uh, you know, likereally like locked into
something and then you canreally ascend from there.
But also, like I said, I trulybelieve anyone can get to that
(38:48):
state.
This is you can get there ifyou put in the work.
It's not exclusive to peoplethat are talented or people that
are gifted or whatever.
Anyone can do this.
You just have to put in thework, put in the hours and then
experience the results.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
And who knows?
Sometimes it might happen andyou don't even know what's
happening?
Speaker 1 (39:06):
You don't even know.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
You don't even know.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, up next we're going to have to figure out how
to get Liz to get there onpurpose.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Three weeks guys.
We got three weeks to figure itout.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yep, we anyways hopefully you guys enjoyed this
episode, kind of talking aboutgetting in the zone flow, state
um, and what I think is the bestcue that I've personally
listened to read whatever uhdigested this whole year.
So don't think, just do get outthere and chase down those
goals and let us know if youhave questions or you need help
(39:45):
meeting those goals or findingyour strong.
We're all about redefiningstrong here, fortis fitness
studio, and we're here to helpyou out yep all right, we'll see
you in the next one.
Peace, bye.
What's going on, you guys?
Welcome to another episode ofthe Fortis After Hours podcast.
I'm your co-host, nate, joinedby my wife, liz hey, and we have
another awesome episode plannedfor you guys today.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Surprise, surprise.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Oh yes, maybe a surprise that we did an episode
this week.
Sorry about that last week, butwe were busy last week at a
competition all day Saturday andthen kind of catching up on
work and things on Sunday, so wewere unable to record.
But we're back and this weekwe're going to be rolling
through kind of a little bit ofa recap of the competition.
I know some people like that.
(00:33):
Some people, I think, skipthese episodes.
That's okay, because if you'realready here, I'm actually going
to title it something else sothat you don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
But that's not all we're talking about, though.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Exactly it's, so that you don't know.
But that's not all we'retalking about, though.
Exactly it's not, and thenyou're stuck.
I guess you can skip along, butanyways, yeah.
So we're going to talk aboutkind of the concept of don't
think, kind of simple, but we'lldive into it later, but I think
it can be beneficial to almostevery single human being,
especially people that engage inany kind of sporting activity,
(01:07):
where you need to kind of havethat instinct and ability to
turn everything off and just go.
So we're going to discuss thattoday, but first, like I said,
we're going to just kind of talkabout the meet this past
weekend so it was called the BarStronger Things.
(01:27):
I was going to say StrangerThings, the Bar Stronger Things
Showdown.
It was kind of like a play offthe TV show Stranger Things.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Which is probably why you were going to say Stranger
Things, yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Which quick little sidebar on that.
I really believe that the onlygood season of Stranger Things
was one.
What about you?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I honestly don't remember them.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I couldn't tell you what happened in what season, or
what seasons.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I've seen All right.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Well, season one, I'll just talk to myself.
Then Season one was, I think,really good.
Season two is, and then I feellike it just got really not good
.
That's my opinion, I don't know.
I know a lot of Season two is,eh, and then I feel like it just
got really not good.
That's my opinion, I don't know.
I know a lot of people lovethat show, but I think they
really missed the ball afterseasons one and two.
But the first two seasons aregreat.
If you've never seen them, Ithink they're on Netflix and I
think they're coming out with afinale season soon.
(02:17):
I will not be watching that.
I.
I got football to watch fantasyfootball this year.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Oh boy, yep, All the fantasy football.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, someone asked me if you wanted to do a fantasy
football team.
What would actually be yourresponse to that?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
No is the answer.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I told them no, but I was like, I mean, you could ask
.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
The answer is no, you could ask her.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Okay, anyway.
So yeah, it was called theStronger Things Showdown and it
was a one day, one platform meet.
Unusual because I feel likeeverything's two day, two
platform, 10 platforms, uh, butI just, you've been to a lot of
like bigger meets, yeah, and Ido I have to say?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I just do like just the one singular platform, all
the attention one day a littlebit shorter too, because it was
there was, I think, 40 30, Ithink it was like 37 people
ended up doing it, which, if youknow or don't know um meets
usually cap at like 60 yeah,like 50 or 60 yeah and then
(03:13):
that's a four flight full day oflifting, although some meets
are now going to sessions wherethey have morning session and
afternoon session anyways thisis short.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
It was a little bit of a smaller meet which honestly
was really nice.
I was going to say it was superappreciated, at least on our
end.
I enjoyed one, that it was justa little bit shorter.
Two, all the attention is onthe lifters all at once.
That's something I don't likeabout the two-platform thing.
And then also I will say theydid a really good job with the
production of the meat.
(03:45):
They had a lot of cool thingsgoing on.
Nothing was too distracting,except for the fire.
I'm not going to lie.
There's a couple times when I'mwalking by and I'm like, oh my
God, I'm like this fire betternot come at me, I'm going to
knock it over.
But it never did.
So we're good, good to go.
But it was like real fire, soyou could like feel it Like a
couple of times I was likefilming, I was like okay.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I didn't get that close to it.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, but either way, yeah, the production was real
good and we had seven peoplecompeting, including Liz.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
We did.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
And they all did great.
Yeah, everybody did really good.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It was overall a really good day.
We it was really good.
It was overall a really goodday.
We had seven all seven ladies,so we were all in the same
flight together, which made itreally fun.
Everyone was together, everyonewarmed up together.
Well, like two racks, becauseseven is too many people for one
, but anyways, we all warmed uptogether, we all lifted together
.
It was just like a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Yeah, it was a good time and we did have some people
come out and help us, which isalways really appreciated.
So, for those of you that cameout of help, we really
appreciate that because thatmakes my job a lot easier.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yes, especially when I'm lifting too.
I mean it always helps justhaving extra hands that's always
nice when we have multiplepeople lifting, like to either
help out in the warm-up room orrun and get stuff if someone
needs something, or justwhatever people might need
assistance for, but especiallywhen I'm lifting, though, or the
other way around, if you'relifting and I'm coaching or
(05:14):
whatever yeah, definitely givesus an extra hand, which is very
nice it's nice to have everybodythere um one.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's kind of like a force multiplier because, like,
I can be doing like 80 differentthings at once because I have
all One.
It's kind of like a forcemultiplier because I can be
doing like 80 different thingsat once because I have all the
help.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Plus it's cool like built-in cheerleaders for
everyone from our Fortis team.
That's what I was going to say.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
It's also just really cool to see everybody support
each other, so that's cool aswell.
And then it also just helpseverything run smoothly.
Specifically in the warm roomit can get a little chaotic
that's just kind of nature ofthe beast.
But it's nice when you have aplan and help to execute the
plan, because it makes it run alot smoother.
So if you came to help out,thank you so much.
(05:55):
If you came out to support,also, thank you so much.
We saw all you guys and weappreciate the support, because
without that it's kind of boring.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It's way more boring.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, we do appreciate the help and support
tremendously and it's just funto see people in the crowd
wearing Fortis shirts and stufflike that.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I will say that I saw one couple.
They came out, john and Tia,and then they were wearing
matching shirts from our latestdrop the purple one, which is
highly coveted, now the lavenderone.
It's a good color.
Yeah, but hold on.
So I was like watching or I sawthem and I kind of you know
(06:40):
whatever, sit, wave head, nod,something, and then, like I was
just kind of like surveying thecrowd, I don't know like looking
around the crowd, and then likeI saw someone Hold on.
This is funny.
I saw someone else like wearingthat like same color shirt, so
I was like, oh, someone else hasit and I'm just like staring at
them for like a while.
Nope, I don't know that personand I just looked away and it
(07:03):
was just like the same colorshirt not the same shirt.
No okay it was definitely arandom person, perfect.
I was like all right well nevermind, that's perfect, you know
I like to acknowledge people forcoming out supporting, so you
know, but anyways, yeah, so weappreciate that.
Um, and then, as far as ourlifters, yeah, like I said, like
everyone did a really good job.
(07:24):
We had the first three slotssecured first, second and third
place for the women's drugtesting side um, for like the
overall uh which is pretty coolto do, I would say kind of a
clean sweep of the podium thereuh so that's pretty cool.
Um, we had Coach Liz leadingthe way she did a SPD day for
(07:50):
her meet coming up or fortraining for her meet coming up
in whatever two weeks now.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Three weeks, three weeks, three weeks.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And how do you think you did, and how do?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
you think you did Well.
I actually had fun, which waskind of the whole goal of this.
So I'm sure if you've beenlistening to the podcast for a
while, you've heard the story ofmy life and or my brain and or
my meats for the last lots ofyears.
But specifically last year itkind of like I don't even know
(08:27):
rock bottom.
I guess we found it.
Um, so this year my life and orbrain or whatever it's gotten a
little bit back on track.
So I decided it's beenessentially a year since I
competed and I thought it mightbe good to kind of get back on
the platform again with like alittle different brain situation
(08:51):
happening.
Before I had to go step on theplatform at Surge.
If you don't know, I did thissame Surge meet the one I'm
doing up in Chicago in Septembertwo years ago, same surge meet
the one I'm doing up in chicagoin september two years ago, and
it was kind of like thebeginning of the downfall, of
hitting rock bottom.
I feel like two years ago.
(09:13):
Like yeah, I feel like some ofthe other ones weren't really
great.
But then I feel like that onereally was like the beginning of
like the tumbling, like I kindof thought that was like the
bottom and then it like kind ofgot worse the next year.
So I felt like it was probablygood to kind of get back on the
platform, because I'm sure therewill be some nerves and
(09:34):
anticipation like leading intothat meet um, just in general,
to the same spot to beat it yes,I want some redemption from
that got itfrom where it started.
But I figured it would probablybe smart since there was a
local meet, um, and it all linedup like perfectly with my
training, that I could just goand do essentially a heavy spd
(09:55):
day, um, a few weeks out fromthe meet.
I was supposed to do heavysingles that week in training.
Anyways, it was leading into adeload week the following week.
So like everything kind ofperfectly lined up with training
, so we decided to go in andjust do that with a very
specific numbers in mind nottrying which is honestly hard
(10:16):
for both of us because, likeonly on my deadlift
yeah, well maybe for you.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, it was harder for you once I realized, like,
how close we were to a thousand.
I was like, oh, like and I'mlike pretty sure we could have
hit it, so like.
But then I had to tell myselfI'm like nope, nope, that's not
part of the plan that's one ofmy.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So I know I've said before but some of my, my goals
for this surge meet in septemberis one a little bit of
redemption, so I just want tolike show up, perform well and
have fun.
That's kind of like first andforemost.
Second is to beat my numbersfrom the surge meet I did two
years ago.
(10:55):
And then thirdly, thirdly,whatever would be to total yeah
to total a thousand pounds, andthis meat, the Stronger Things
Showdown that I just did Itotaled 981.
So it's like 10 kilos awaybasically.
(11:16):
So we're definitely encroachingon that territory of being able
to give a little extra push andthen, hopefully, with a nice
little peek, and taper into themeat.
Um, if everything goes kind ofaccording to plan and I'm able
to execute it again, um, I thinkthat thousand pounds is a real
(11:41):
possibility which is funnybecause when I set that goal,
whenever I decided I was doingthis meet and said those were my
goals, I want to say this waslike back in march, when they
like I think it's like march ishtime frame, maybe april, I
don't know it was like in thespring sometime when they
started this and I had those asmy goals, like from the
beginning, like they have notchanged, um, but I definitely
(12:04):
thought the thousand pounds waslike a pretty big stretch to get
back to.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, but I remember that now I feel like it's
actually like somewhat arealistic possibility yeah which
is cool yeah um, yeah, um yeah,so yeah, that's, I think I
think, well, I think one of thebiggest things is that is uh,
(12:30):
coming together this year islike my brain well, yeah, but uh
, but also, like in the coachingaspect, something that I have
gotten together in my brain isthat for a long time, like I
realized how strong liz waspretty early on, she can tell
you that, um, yeah, but she isjust realizing that like now it
seems.
So that's like, uh, we've beentogether for 10 years, so yeah,
(12:54):
anyways.
Um, and I think like early on I, because I knew she was like
capable of so much, I'm like, ohyeah, like we could do this, we
could do this, we could do that, and like I think, maybe
unintentionally, I put likesuper high expectations and then
you already do that to yourself.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, it probably wasn't a great combo.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I don't think I knew exactly that level of like
expectations that you would puton yourself.
Anyways, yeah and now.
But then after a while I justwell, no.
Then you know, you kind of hadthis whatever thing start like
2023, when you're really likeanti, like pretty much done with
powerlifting, and I was like,okay, I just need to like back
(13:32):
off a little bit.
And I did that.
And then I realized that, like,you kind of already take care
of the expectations for yourself, so I just need to make sure
that your body is strong enoughand ready to meet those
expectations that you set up foryourself.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Because I think before a big thing was, I was
like I said like maybe likeputting extra two extra
expectations, maybe like puttingextra two extra expect
expectations and then two.
Something we've learnedtraining wise is liz is very
strong every single day.
Uh, so we just need to makesure that her body is ready to
perform on a specific day.
(14:10):
Um, and, of course, we stillgot to do work to make sure she
get there.
Gets there, but at this leveland just her age like, and
training age, like real age andtraining age.
It is very specific things thatwe need to have her do to get
to that, and I think we'rereally together dialing in on
exactly what those things are tomake sure you're at your peak
(14:31):
strength on a given day yeah,and I feel like that's probably
true to be said for a lot ofpeople that there are things
that like very specific thingsfor a lot of people that they
could do.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And I would just say, the longer that you're with
your coach, I mean obviouslywe're together, which so it's
like kind of different but thelonger you're with your coach,
the more you trust andcommunicate and talk to your
coach about like literally asmuch as you possibly can going
on in your life.
Um, like, the better they'rethey will be able to, like help
prepare you for the platform orgive you tips and things to work
(15:04):
around things or alter yourprogramming or alter anything,
but just going to throw that outthere.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
The more you communicate, the longer that
time is, the better the coachingrelationship is going to be.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Because, like the first meet that you do with
someone, like as a coach, likeI'm not saying it's not going to
go well, but, like your coachisn't going to necessarily know
little every nuance of you andso the longer that they coach
you, the more of the littlenuances they can learn and
really like hone in exactly what?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
just yeah, the more precise they can be as a coach,
and that's just kind of how.
That's just kind of how thingswork, is just yeah, it was just
a reminder.
Just a reminder I was going tosay like, the closer and the
more communication you can belike direct communication with
your clients and or like, ifyou're a client with your coach,
(15:56):
letting them know where thingsare at that's just going to
allow them to produce a betterprogram for you.
Because, remember, we'rewriting these programs with the
information that you give usright.
So, like it's just kind of youknow if we see this.
But then it's like, oh well,really this felt like this, but
I just didn't say that.
It's like okay, like, so youknow, giving us details and
(16:18):
making sure that we're dialed inis going to make sure that you
get the best product and thebest possible outcome for your
specific meat day.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yes, so anyways, back to how the meat actually went,
because that's sort of where Iwas going with all of that on my
little tangent there, and thena second tangent that I went on
On my little tangent there, andthen a second tangent that I
went on, but so I totaled 981pounds.
I went eight for nine, whichboth of these were like the best
that I've done in a really longtime.
(16:48):
Honestly, going eight for nineis probably like one of the
first, I would say handful oftimes that that's ever probably
happened.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I feel like I was going eight for nine.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah, I would need to go back and look.
I feel like I'm usually prettygood for 7, for 9 or less,
especially lately.
You sound like.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Gary, that's what he says.
I just need 6 lists for good.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
But I want to start doing better, so I was excited
that I went 8 for 9.
However, that third bench stilleludes me.
Per the usual.
So we went three for three onsquats ended with 358.
Two for three on bench per theusual, ending with 193.
But maybe we change some thingsafterwards.
Learn some things from the meet, I don't know Stay tuned.
(17:35):
Tweaks to bench plus training.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
We'll see.
We'll see.
Yeah, we'll find out.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Tweaks to bench plus training.
We'll see.
We'll see this week, yeah,we'll find out.
And then so I benched 193,which was a PLU state record.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
There you go.
And we had some other people'shit state records as well,
correct?
Yes, we had three other liftershit state records.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Who were there?
Rachel and Kelsey, I think, hitsquat, bench, deadlift and
total state record for their ageand weight class.
And then Skyla got the squatand total for her weight class,
the total.
The only one that matters.
Yes.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Nice, very cool, very cool, yes, so state record.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yes For bench at 193.
Yes, so state record.
Yes, for a bench at 193.
And then deadlift.
I ended with 429, which is alsoa state record, and it was the
most that I've deadlifted in ameet since March of 2022.
I had been very stuck at thislike 424 range.
(18:42):
I think I chipped it at onemeet so it was like 425 because
that was a state record.
So I've pulled 424 at a goodchunk of my last few meets that
I did.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
And you pulled that a couple times at the gym, but
then something else has happened, or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Well, usually my brain happened and then the
beginning of the meet wasterrible, so then I could not
like execute.
Yeah, basically um, and then Ihurt my back yeah, for one of
the meets.
I hurt my back, so that endedup being really bad.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
And then I don't know it was anyways a whole
situation so, anyways, that wasa 429.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
but what was really cool that day, which I could not
ever tell you, the last timeI've ever had this feeling, if
I've ever had this feeling Iknew like, basically without a
shadow of a doubt, whatever wason that bar, I was going to
deadlift it that day, and I'venever really had that feeling.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And that right there is the topic of the podcast In
training, in a meet likeliterally I have never felt that
way.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
The plan was the 429 attempt, so that was what we
stuck with because that was one,like I said, I hadn't
deadlifted more than the 424.
So that was the next jump, solike that was kind of good, just
to just to get that.
And then also it just kind oflines up everything for the rest
of prep, without trying to likeovershoot like crazy for that
(20:07):
day, but basically whatever wason the bar I was going to
deadlift it so and like I hadreally no doubt that it was
going to happen, yeah and youcould tell that I've never like.
That was the weirdest feelingyeah my brain didn't really know
what that was.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
You're locked in.
You're in the zone, yeah Iguess you could uh you could
tell watching you, which wasreally cool.
I told I was talking to youabout that the other day just
because, like I don't know, likeyou said, like I I don't know,
I'm not sure really, if I'veever seen you like that like
you're.
I've seen you like that acouple times at the gym, but I
think we know like it's a littleeasier, I think, for you
relatively to like train.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
But I still don't think that.
I've ever felt like that, thatlike, whatever, like I knew like
there would be some days whereI'd be like, oh, I know, I'm
going to lift this, likewhatever it is.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
But like it was just different Cause, I was like I
don't care what he puts on thebar, I'm just going to go pick
it up and lift it.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
So I don't know yeah no, you're in the zone.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Apparently, you're in the don't think zone and yeah,
that's kind of what I wanted totalk about today.
Was that ability?
We'll call it just like beingin the zone, or being kind of
like in that flow state In themoment Yep, in the moment.
(21:26):
That flow state in the moment,yep, in the moment.
Flow state in the zone,whatever you want to call it but
uh, we all know what that is.
Now, some of you may not haveexperienced that yet in your
life, um, but the first time Ihad, if you've watched yeah, if
you've watched any type ofsporting event or any type of
like high skill event.
So if you don't want to call ita sport, but like something that
requires a high amount of skillat a high level, you're gonna
see people kind of be in thatlike zone and that flow state
whatever you want to call itwhere they're not really there,
(21:47):
but they're there, you know,like they're just like somewhere
else, and I think that that's athing that is not unique to
powerlifting and that is likefound, like I said, kind of in
like top skill, top levels ofall different types of things,
whether it's like skilledathlete, even like a skilled
(22:09):
worker, like if someone is likea your work with your hands or
maybe do like photography, likethings like this like there's
just like a certain, a certainlevel of like focus, that like
when you can tap into and thekey is you can't tap into it at
all times, but when you can tapinto it, like Liz said, it feels
like nothing can go wrong andlike it's like your body is so
(22:30):
focused and like your energy isso focused on what you're doing
that you can do, truly likesuperhuman type things and, like
I said, I don't think that thisis by any means, uh, exclusive
to powerlifting, um, but youknow, I would say for the
purpose of our podcast, likejust talking about physical
(22:53):
endeavors since this is kind oflike a fitness podcast.
Um the better that you can getat something, um the more
freedom you're going toexperience when you're in that
flow state.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
So yeah, well, I think some of it is just also
like a weird, like almost likesubconscious trust in yourself
and what you're doing, that youjust like deep down, like just
know that, like what you'redoing is what you're supposed to
be doing and you know how to dowhat you're going to do, and
like you've trusted essentiallythe process as well as yourself
(23:31):
to get you to, uh, like thatpoint in where you are yeah, and
I think like there's I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I think there's something to be said for being
able to, like you said, liketrust your body, trust your mind
, trust all of your training.
Yeah, to where there's likenothing, like you're only just
focusing on the task at hand.
You're not thinking aboutanything else.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Um, yeah because I've like done, obviously, a lot of
meets at this point.
I was trying to count.
I think it's been like 16 or 17, because I was looking at that.
The other day I was looking atmy open powerlifting when they
pulled this one or when this onegot loaded into it, yeah, and I
want to say there's like 16 or17.
If you didn't know, when you'relistening to this, there's a
website called Open Powerliftingthat logs and tracks every
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powerlifting, meet everypowerlifter, and you can just
search your name and you canfind all of your results.
Sometimes it might be under twodifferent names, if you have two
different names and then youhave to get them combined.
But that's okay, mine is alsoseparate.
Again, I have a second one.
I gotta work on that, um,anyway.
So I was looking at open powerlifting and, oh, I forgot where
(24:43):
I was going with this, though,nice I've done 16, 17 meets is
where I was going, and thensomething I don't know what
you're talking about.
Oh, I think.
Basically, I think my point waslike there's every other meet
and literally every other lift.
I have been like extremelynervous for them.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Like before I lift.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
I mean not like I guess extremely might be a
little bit of an exaggeration,but like definitely first
attempts were always extremelynerve wracking for me, just
because my brain and then Idon't know lately, some of all
of them have been.
But even like this pastSaturday, like I wouldn't say I
like got into this like weirdstate of mind until I found
(25:26):
deadlifts for some reason.
Until like we got to deadliftsstate of mind until I found
deadlifts for some reason, oruntil, like, we got to deadlifts
.
Um.
So I would say like someone'slike, oh cool, like I want to do
that for a meet.
Like I don't even think I couldreally tell you how it happened
, um, because I wasn't liketrying to go to whatever my
brain went, to flow state,whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, so like I don't even know that I could
necessarily tell someone likehow to do that well, I think,
see and that's the thing is thatI think, yes, I think one it
can just happen like naturally,like you're saying.
I think like you can also cueit to happen using like certain
songs or certain thoughts orcertain emotions, things like
this.
But I think and this is what Ikind of wanted to talk about
(26:18):
mainly is pretty simple.
But in order to get to thatstate, you have to have like
mastery of whatever you'retrying to do.
So there's, of course,different levels and I'm not
saying like like I'm not,there's no like numerical thing,
I'm not associating any likeI'm not, there's no like
numerical thing, I'm notassociating any like numbers
with this.
But you do have to have liketechnical mastery of the tasks
you're going to do to be able toget into that state, because
you need to get to a situation.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Like you don't have to be thinking about your cues.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
You're literally not thinking about anything other
than like Liz said she's likethe only thought that was going
through my brain.
The only thought that was goingthrough my brain.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
No, you weren't even thinking about that all you
thought was whatever goes on thebar, I'm lifting it up so like,
yeah, I mean, but yes, but mypoint is is like it's not like
you're like okay, I gotta likeroot my feet.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
I gotta like get my groups in.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I gotta like you, literally were just like go,
like whenever they say go, goand well, and I, because like
it's funny, like I'll I watchthe videos, and um was funny.
Someone asked me I can'tremember who it was Someone I
was training.
They were like, oh, you set updifferently at meets than you do
in training.
And I was like, no, I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
And they're like no, you didn't pull on the bar like
you do, so they're like whatever, I post all my stuff and I was
like no, I promise you, they areexactly the same yeah and I
pulled up videos and they areexactly the same every single
one, like all three of myattempts at the meet all of my
like really all of my lifts atthe gym.
(27:41):
They all start out the sameexact way, and I think by doing
that in training also carriesover to well, yes, I'm, I guess,
I don't think I know it carriesover to the platform to then be
able to better go into thatzone of just lifting, because I
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did not have to think at all, Ijust set up exactly the same
every time.
I have a little routine ofbreathing and hands and whatever
I do every time, and it isliterally every time.
So then you just do that andthen your body like knows what
to do.
If you are kind of like youwere saying, though, if you are
(28:23):
still like newer to lifting andyou're not like 100% confident
on your form and you still haveto cue yourself when you're
lifting, you might not be ableto go to this like just go,
which is okay.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, that's fine, and that's that's what.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Like I said, I've been doing this, 16 meets 17
meets, and this is the firsttime I've ever, ever felt that
and and, yeah, I I think thatit's a combination of.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It's a combination of skill, um, and like mastery of
skill, and then also the abilityto go into that fight or flight
, which some people can doeasier than others.
Some people are in constantlyand they don't realize it, some
people have never experiencedthat before.
But it all starts withsomething that we all can do is
to really focus in, like Lizsaid, on every session, treating
(29:10):
every rep uh, like it is yourtop set, and that's something I
struggle with.
Um, I'm not perfect at it.
Liz is pretty perfect, I'm notgonna lie.
She's pretty good at it, um,but you know, for me that's
something that, like I got towork on for sure is to like keep
everything locked in, make surethat I'm focusing on every rep
(29:31):
that I do, and then when I do dothat, I have very good workout
sessions and generally I performpretty well on me day because I
can get into at least a fightor flight state, like on demand.
Now, there are some times whenI'm like, like Liz said, kind of
in a flow state, like in mylast meet, the only one that I
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was actually like in a kind oflike flow state for was my
squats.
I didn't know like I knew whatwas going on.
But I really just didn't knowwhat was going on, but I knew I
was going to get all the squats,like I just knew it was going
to happen.
Um, I had like people talkingto me, like other competitors I
had like you and cadran and garylike talking to me.
I'm just like I don't, like Ijust I knew what I was gonna go
do and I just did it bench anddeadlift.
(30:12):
That was more.
I was more present for thosebecause I had I'd already done
those lifts that's funny, minewas the opposite yeah, I just
needed those to, uh, secure mytotal.
But yeah, I was like the mostclear state of that was
definitely then.
So, yeah, so if you'relistening to this, you're like
how do I get to that?
So, number one, make sure thatyou are.
(30:33):
Make sure you are practicingexactly how you want to compete
and taking your trainingsessions seriously, you know.
So, like if you want, like whatwe're talking about is a pretty
advanced state of mind, so likeif you want to become that type
of lifter, then, like you doneed to take those training
sessions seriously.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
It was honestly really cool.
Like I wish I could make myselfdo this all the time.
I mean, I understand that's notrealistic, I understand that
it's definitely, but it was areally cool feeling.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
What Liz is describing in the kind of flow
state that she's talking about,is definitely in combination
with adrenaline, which which youdo not have unlimited taps
trust me I've tried.
It doesn't work, but, um, butyou can definitely like, uh, I
think, like I said, I think youcan cue yourself to get in that
zone with different like songs,things like this, um, but if
(31:23):
you're listening, how do I dothis?
Like I said, start, start makingsure all those reps look
perfect and that you feelcomfortable with your cues and
what you're doing.
I think the second thing ismaking sure you are like focused
before your reps.
So, you know, I mean Mila's ona gym and we train in the same
(31:47):
gym, so obviously people talk tous, right, uh, but like, right
now, we've kind of likedeveloped a system where it's
like, you know, once we're readyto hit a lift, we either, you
know, put the headphones in or,uh, you know it'd be like, hey,
just give me one second.
So that way you don't reallyneed a ton of time, but you do
need to be focused when you'redoing whatever you're doing.
And that's something that Ithink sometimes, like people
(32:09):
overlook is you know they'rehanging out with friends, which
is awesome, like, of course,like we like hanging out and
talking to people, of course,but when it's time to lift, got
to lock in and got to get youknow your body ready to lift
that weight.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
So I have like there's like different cues for
me.
Like I can be like talking andwhatever for squats as soon as I
put my hands on the bar, likewhatever for squats as soon as I
put my hands on the bar, likeif anyone like watches me I mean
I do this every time but like Istand there with my hands on
the bar for a second and take acouple breaths before I even
like pull myself under.
That is me like focusing on,like yeah what I'm doing bench.
(32:42):
I sit down on the bench and Ikind of sit there for a second
same thing um deadlifts.
I do stand there also like Iset my feet and then I kind of
like stand there and likebreathe for a couple seconds I
was just gonna say it's veryspecific to what I do, but
that's like, even if I'm liketalking or whatever else, like
warming up, I will do that tolike make sure I'm very present
(33:06):
in the moment for my warmups too.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, and I was just going to say I think like the
last thing kind of is, uh, takea deep breath.
Like it seems silly, but thatwas actually something imparted
uh to me by, uh my friend and aguy that coached me in Olympic
weightlifting, tyler, and at thetime I was like pretty young
and just didn't want to hear it,but he's like you should always
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take a breath before you likehit your like a deep breath
before you like hit your weight.
And this is Olympic lifting,which is, and the whole sport is
like flow state, to be honest,like that you got to really be
in like a state of trance typesituation to hit those things
because the weights are flyingover your head.
You got to catch it at the righttime, a lot of timing.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Couldn't be me.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
And he'd always tell me he's like yeah, you just got
to take a deep breath.
I'm like what?
I'm like what?
Like we're lifting weights andnow squats it's because I tell
(34:12):
you yeah, I don't know.
Yeah and I the squats definitelymake me the most like nervous,
so like I'm like I gotta take adeep breath.
I'm like all right, you can dothis and I do it, um, bench and
dead and deadlifts.
Like I said, if I do, if I dodo that, then it always seems to
work out good.
So I think that's maybe threethings you guys can start
practicing to find your flowstate and or get in the zone and
(34:36):
or don't think, just do, andthe whole don't think thing,
think, just do, um, and thewhole don't think thing.
To kind of close out with that.
That came from that little liketwo word thing, came from a
book that I'm listening toreading, whatever you want to
call it listening to okay, abook that I'm listening to and
in one of the chapters they werediscussing that as a cue.
(34:58):
Like they're like you know,sometimes the world's best
athletes or whatever, like thesepeople.
They're like thinking aboutthis, that and the other and
like the last thing, like theperson will just like look at
him.
He's like yeah, uh, what youneed to be doing is just don't
think, and the point of this is,if you practice enough and you
know how to do what you're gonnado, then.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
That's the key, though, is you gotta have that
done first.
That foundation has to be donefirst.
I'm just clarifying again.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Yes, just to clarify you cannot do that without
having put in the hours and thethousands of hours of practice
to make perfect, so to speak.
But the point of the cue wasjust don't think and just do.
Your body already knows what itneeds to be doing.
You just have to do it.
Do.
Your body already knows what itneeds to be doing.
You just have to do it.
(35:44):
And for someone like yourselfwho has put in tens of thousands
of hours of powerlifting, thatis the spot where you need to be
Like every cue should just bedon't think.
Like your body knows what to do, you are strong enough to do it
.
You just got to go do it.
And I really think I mean it'sevident.
I mean wouldn't you say it'sevident by like the change
you've had this year, that likeyour own brain was like, or your
(36:04):
mind, so to speak was likeprobably more my enemy getting
in the way than anything else.
Yes, I mean like now with theand and you, just you just
showed that off on that daywhich made me like so happy.
It was like it was like an outof body experience for me,
because I just looked over andthere's liz like I can't like
portray it on the podcast, butshe's just, like you know, kind
of like bopping her head, likejust locked it, which like she
(36:25):
does not do like if you know, mywife she does not do this shit.
so I'm like, all right, shedoesn't know where she is,
perfect.
Like she's like because, like Idon't know, you're just like
locked into the moment and Iknew I'm like, oh yeah, this is
good, she's gonna cook this,because we were there to secure
what we were there to securelike total wise win the meet,
(36:48):
and I don't know, I didn't havelike a there's not a shadow in
my mind that you're going tomiss any of the attempts, except
my third attempt, bench.
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
You still like I told you youmessed that one up, you like
brought it down on your neckalmost.
Anyways.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Well, my shoulder popped.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Yeah, whatever I didn't like it Anyways.
So my point is it was just coolto see you get into that state
and I think that, to kind ofwrap it up, I think that you
don't have to be at some whatyou would consider, because I
know you guys listening like Idon't know, like you think
certain things are what make youstrong, like number wise.
(37:26):
Look like you don't have to beat that, at that state, that
state of strength or whateverstandard you're setting, to get
into this kind of like flowstate, and really you can apply
this to any sport.
But the one thing, like I said,that you have to have this in
common is the hours, thepractice.
You have to practice what yourskill is, what you're trying to
(37:47):
achieve, to get into this kindof like flow state and get into
the space where you can notthink and just do.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
We'll see if we can do that again in three weeks.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yep, that's what we're about to do.
So, yeah, if you guys, like Isaid, if you're listening and
you're maybe wondering like okay, like how can I apply this,
reach out, let us know.
We'd love to help you guysapply this to your own life.
But if you really want to getstarted, what you should do is
start practicing what we justtalked about now and then maybe
(38:27):
like reach out to us for helpand be like, hey, I've already
been practicing this.
That's what I'm talking about.
Yeah, exactly, uh, becausedefinitely, like liz said, the
bare minimum, uh, to put anumber on it is that 10 000
hours like you got to be atleast 10 000 or 10 000 hours in,
so to speak uh, you know, likereally like locked into
something and then you canreally ascend from there.
But also, like I said, I trulybelieve anyone can get to that
(38:48):
state.
This is you can get there ifyou put in the work.
It's not exclusive to peoplethat are talented or people that
are gifted or whatever.
Anyone can do this.
You just have to put in thework, put in the hours and then
experience the results.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
And who knows?
Sometimes it might happen andyou don't even know what's
happening?
Speaker 1 (39:06):
You don't even know.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
You don't even know.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah, up next we're going to have to figure out how
to get Liz to get there onpurpose.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Three weeks guys.
We got three weeks to figure itout.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yep, we anyways hopefully you guys enjoyed this
episode, kind of talking aboutgetting in the zone flow, state
um, and what I think is the bestcue that I've personally
listened to read whatever uhdigested this whole year.
So don't think, just do get outthere and chase down those
goals and let us know if youhave questions or you need help
(39:45):
meeting those goals or findingyour strong.
We're all about redefiningstrong here, fortis fitness
studio, and we're here to helpyou out yep all right, we'll see
you in the next one.
Peace, bye.
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