August 11, 2025 • 42 mins
Ever feel caught between pushing harder and pulling back? That tension point is exactly what we explore in this candid conversation about navigating life's demands while still pursuing your goals.
In this episode, we break down the delicate art of knowing when to go all-in and when to conserve energy. This balance isn't just about training—it's a universal principle that applies to careers, relationships, and personal development.
The concept of "minimum effective dose" becomes crucial during high-stress periods. We share how maintaining non-negotiables (nutrition, hydration, sleep) while adjusting training intensity helped us stay on track despite additional life demands.
Communication is key. Whether with your coach, training partner or life partner, transparency about life stressors allows for intelligent adjustments before burnout hits. We discuss how many athletes wait too long to communicate challenges, missing opportunities for proactive changes to their training and or schedule.
Perhaps most valuable is our exploration of the power of planning. Even for the spontaneous among us like Nate, having a framework creates freedom rather than limitation. A good plan doesn't mean rigid adherence—it means having direction when chaos strikes.
The payoff for this strategic approach isn't immediate gratification but sustainable progress toward meaningful goals. Whether you're preparing for competition, career advancement, or simply trying to balance multiple life demands, mastering this push-pull dynamic could be your secret weapon.
Ready to apply these principles to your training and life? Listen now, and let us know which strategies resonate most with your current challenges!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's going on, you guys?
Welcome to another episode ofthe Fortis After Hours podcast.
I'm co-host Nate, joined by mywife, liz hey, and we have
another awesome episode plannedfor you guys today.
Today, we're going to betalking about the art of knowing
when to push or pull back,otherwise known as riding the
waves of life, training, etc.
(00:21):
We're going to talk abouttraining, um, and specifically,
like I said, when you need tokind of like push forward, when
you need to pull back, notice inthere I said, uh, when you need
to quit, I didn't say that atall.
So we're going to go with thegeneral assumption that you guys
are consistently getting afteryour goals, whether that's once
a week, twice a week, five timesa week training, or whatever
(00:43):
you may, you may be doing.
We're going to go off thepremonition that you are already
on top of that consistencyaspect.
If you're not, let us know howwe can help you achieve that
consistency piece because, afterall, it is the most important.
It is Okay, I'm done with mylittle intro.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So, yeah, this is the second episode of the After
Hours podcast and I'm prettyexcited to record this one.
I honestly kind of missedrecording a podcast last week.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I think it's been a couple weeks.
Actually it has been yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
The first week we were busy, I don't know, I
didn't really think about it.
Then last week I was like ohman, we're not recording a
podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, so I was pretty excited to sit down and record
this, recorded this podcast thisevening.
Yeah, it's been a busy coupleweeks.
Yeah, fill us in.
What have we been doing?
We'll fill the world in.
Um, we moved just just a littlemove.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
But we moved, so we were packing.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I guess like two weeks ago now we were packing
and trying to like geteverything ready and situated
for that and then last weekendwe were actually moving actually
moving, yep that is what we'redoing.
So it's been a busy coupleweeks.
It was just a small, littlebitty move.
So, not really anything crazy,but it still takes time in case
you were wondering, still takestime.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Still takes a lot of effort, luckily me and Liz.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I was tired.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, luckily we have .
And, oh, and, we had to fulfilla shirt order which may or may
not have been not the besttiming, but it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, but we we like crushed the teamwork on this one
.
That's what I was just going tosay.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
We luckily work really well as a team.
So I was at the gym a littlebit more that week was still
there, of course, but like I wasat the gym a little bit more
cooking up shirts, she was herepacking, moving stuff and, yeah,
we worked really well as a unittogether which we did.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
We got a lot done in a little bit of time.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, and I was going to say I think the first
episode was kind of about thatright.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I don't remember.
That feels like a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I can't remember either, but go back, check out
the first episode.
I'm pretty sure we did discussworking as a team and the unit
in a relationship together, um,which we, I would say, for lack
of a better term, put on aclinic over the past couple
weeks, so we still were able to,uh, balance our training,
figure out how to balance ourtraining, um, of course, work
like at the gym and then movingand making sure it's like extra
(03:03):
work.
Yeah and yeah extra work, yeah,which, I have to say, that was
super.
It was a super awesome responsefrom all of you guys.
Thank you so much forpurchasing a shirt, or if you
have purchased a shirt in thepast.
It really helps us just kind oflike spread our mission and our
brand, and we really appreciateevery single one of you.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Plus, I think it's cool when I see you post videos
or yeah, people like post videosor pictures of the shirts and
I'm like, hey, I know that shirtI agree, I thought it was
really cool.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Um, I'm just gonna give them a shout out, but, uh,
one of the couples at the gym,uh, john and tia, they were out
like on a, on a vacation andthey were wearing rocking the
shirt rocking the shirts on thevacation.
I was like all right, likewearing them out, uh, because
that's always my goal whendesigning is, like I try and
design stuff that can be worninside or outside the gym, um,
and oftentimes we see it insidethe gym, not so often outside,
(03:54):
so I thought that was reallycool, um, seeing you guys put
together real life outfits,speak with like our merchandise,
so that's pretty sweet, butyeah, so, anyways, it was very
busy, but this kind of leadsperfectly into our topic for the
day, which is kind of knowingwhen to push, when to pull back,
and I think that's a key aspectof how to succeed during times
(04:18):
of, like higher stress, whetherit's expected stress, kind of
like we had had, or if it'sunexpected, like a life event or
something like that.
Uh, the principles are verysimilar, um, as far as like kind
of pushing and pulling back andgetting yourself like ready to
uh perform whatever that is, so,uh, so, yeah, so that's a
(04:41):
little intro where we've been.
Uh, we should be a little bitmore regular with these podcasts
.
Liz is competing next weekalong with some other people, so
we might try.
Yeah, we'll probably try andrecord at least a quick podcast
next week for you guys, maybe onlike a Sunday or something.
We'll see though.
We'll see how Liz, we'll seehow she's feeling it's just an
SPD day.
Yeah, exactly that's what I'msaying, so it should be fine, or
(05:03):
maybe Saturday night, I don'tknow, we'll see.
We got a live response from Liz.
Anyways, so you're competingnext week.
So, how do you think, like thepast couple weeks affected your
training and or how did you like, what are some things over the
past couple weeks that you didto make sure you're able to
still hit, uh, what you neededto hit, so to speak um, so I
(05:28):
feel like I just kind of I don'tknow it sounds stupid, but like
I knew what I needed to do andlike as far as like in the gym,
and I just did it, even if Ididn't feel like it yeah um, so
I did not feel like working outevery day because I didn't.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
My body was a little tired from however many 50
something flights of stairs thatI did on the moving day yeah
and carrying all the boxes andunpacking all the boxes, but I
definitely still showed up everyday.
Um, I think the numbers thatwere kind of put in for the like
for my main lifts.
(06:08):
It had a good little range inthere and I feel like we made
like the smart choices withinthat range most of the days like
I didn't tubby agrees um, Ididn't always go to like the top
end of the range, which, ofcourse, is what like everybody
always wants to do is get to thetop end of the range, which, of
course, is what like everybodyalways wants to do is get to the
top end of the range, becauseit's like oh yeah, I'm strong, I
(06:29):
can do this.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Um yeah, so I definitely have the same issues,
don't worry yeah, I think mostpeople do so I definitely didn't
do that.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I don't think I hit the top end of the range on
anything, but I was still withinthe range of everything and so,
like kind of going into it, Iknew that was going to be a real
possibility and just kind ofwas okay with that.
Also, um, because I did want tolike make sure I could put
together all of my lifts and notjust like totally destroy
(06:56):
myself on one day and not beable to do anything like the
rest of the week.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, and I think that's a key thing to note,
maybe for you guys listening.
Listening because oftentimesmaybe you feel like really good
one of the days, but you knowyou have a lot of stuff going on
.
And I spoke with someone theother day that was going through
a stressful situation but theysaid they're like, oh, I'm not
stressed, though.
I was like right, but it'sstill stress.
One of our good friends, gary,told me years ago stress is
(07:24):
stress.
I'm like that is a reallysimple but very effective quote
and it is true.
Uh, you know, stress isanything that's like outside the
norm put on your body.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
it could be emotional , physical, whatever and it can
be good and bad too, like stressdoesn't necessarily have to be
bad, no, like, working out isstress yeah but that's okay.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Like it's not.
Like, oh my gosh, so Ishouldn't work out at all.
It's like no, that's not whatwe're saying.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Well, and even like moving and making shirts, like
doing all this extra stuff, liketechnically that's stress.
It's not bad, no, and I wasn't,like you know, freaking out
about it, but like it'stechnically still stress because
, it's just something that youhave to do.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, and that I think you brought up a really
key point, which is, like youknow, like if you are, let's say
, you're feeling really good onsquat day, but you know that you
have this stuff going on inyour life and you know that
that's probably at some pointgoing to kind of come to a head,
it's probably smart, even ifyou feel good, just to kind of
hit that like mid-range numberor like the.
(08:18):
You know, because, like yourcoach is put those numbers in
for a reason to help youprogress overall, like in the
big picture, and some days whenyou're really stressed, you know
if you got a lot of stuff goingon or additional things going
on in your life, it's probably agood plan to hit that mid or
lower number, because that's theminimum effective dose.
Another person that isextremely smart Chad Wesley
(08:42):
Smith.
He has a great video from backin I don't even know 2016 maybe
or so long time that I watchedthat uh explains the effect, uh
excuse me, explains the conceptof minimum effective dose in
powerlifting, and it is so true.
When I was younger I was like,oh yeah.
And then, like, as I've gottenolder and just competed longer
(09:04):
in this sport, I've like reallygrown to understand the
importance of that, uh, of thatconcept minimum effective dose
and that's exactly like whatyou're able to do um and where I
was going with that is likesome days it's like you almost
have to like see the future,like yes, could I hit this on
squat?
sure, however, it's squat day,like for us that's monday.
(09:26):
I got a whole week ahead of me.
I have this extra stress goingon, or extra things going on,
like should I hit this?
And oftentimes, when you havethat additional stress, it's
probably time to maybe just pullit back just a touch and hit
what you need to and nothingmore, because chances are which
I think you found like as theweek progresses, or vice versa,
whatever, like maybe you're moretired on monday, whatever, but
(09:47):
like then you'll have that extraenergy in the tank to hit those
other numbers for the wholetotal as a week yeah, and I
think something else that we didtoo was you kind of like
pre-thought about this whenyou're programming, and so, like
my accessories were a littlebit less these weeks, so I had
like less accessories, lessintensity on all of those, just
(10:10):
to kind of help overall withrecovery.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Um, I still focused on like every day, getting like
the correct nutrition in correctwater, hydration, all that good
stuff.
Sleep yeah, like all of that wasstill a priority, which I think
not.
I think I know helped me beable to like better stay on
track the only day that mynutrition was off, which it
wasn't technically off, but Ikind of didn't eat for like most
(10:35):
of the day when we were movingor when I was moving because I
was just going.
But then when I realized it waslike 2 o'clock and I hadn't
eaten anything for an entire day, I then had breakfast.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
The entire day was worth of food.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, I ate all of the food that I was supposed to
eat from two o'clock until.
I went to bed that night.
So, like I still got in, likeall the macros, whatever
calories, whatever you want tocall it, got in all of that, all
the water, all the electrolytes, all that good stuff and I
think that it's an important,maybe, distinction to make,
since we are talking about kindof pushing and pulling back.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Like I said earlier, this kind of like has the
assumption that you're beingconsistent, but let's just say
you're new to like things likenon-negotiables, like liz just
talked about, hitting thehydration, nutrition, sleep as
best you can, things like this.
That is not really like a part.
If you're, if you're If youhave your lifestyle set up for
you to perform at your best andyou're like fully focused on
(11:28):
hitting your goals, whetherthat's weight loss, strength
gain, powerlifting,weightlifting, whatever, then
you will have to have some sortof non-negotiables.
Generally that would come inthe form like I think for us
like Liz you know, gloss overthere just mentioned like
hydration, nutrition, sleep asbest we can.
For me, I usually get sevenhours, you usually get eight,
(11:50):
pretty much right, um eight,maybe nine if I so, mostly if
I'm lucky, yeah so like thosethings.
They're happening like perioddot, unless there's some sort of
, you know, like emergency, butwe're just talking about kind of
like general stress, and whengeneral stress is going on,
non-negotiables are just thatthey're non-negotiable.
So we still meal prepped, um,we still had everything ready to
(12:12):
rock and roll, and what thatdid was really allow us to do
what we were able to do,continue training throughout
that you know more stressfulperiod um, and still hit our
goals, our targets yeah, becausewe didn't miss any nope
training, we didn't really missany targets, we didn't really
yeah, and we did like.
for me, I noticed a couple timesduring a few sessions I was
(12:33):
just a little bit more gassed,so I would either cut out some
accessories.
Um, I had a really big goal ofhitting 650, which, uh, that was
really cool to hit.
That was last week and that'sthe first time I've hit that
weight.
That's the first time I've hitthat weight.
That's the first time I'veattempted that weight since 2022
, three, no, it was like threeyears.
(12:55):
So, whatever, that is 2022.
Yeah, so it's been three yearssince I attempted that.
I knew that I had that in thisblock.
I was a little bit scared ofthat, not gonna lie.
I was like, oh my, of course.
But I'm like, no, it shouldn'tmatter, because we have all
these things going, I should befine.
There's no reason why Ishouldn't be able to hit that.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And I think something to note, though, is we also, as
our own coaches, know what'sgoing on in our life and know
how crazy it is, so we couldessentially plan accordingly for
it.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
That's a great thing for people that are clients.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
That's where I thing for people that are clients.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
That's my that's where I was going with that.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
So, whether, like, we coach you or someone else
coaches you, or if you have acoach of some kind and I guess
if you don't, um one, maybe getone or two I guess just keep it
in mind yourself, um that likeyou should be communicating with
your coach if you have likesome super crazy weeks going on
(13:51):
because they might want toadjust your programming or they
might want to adjust the numbers, or they might want to adjust
the accessories, or maybe theytake a whole day out just
depending on like what you havegoing on and I just think that's
something that some peopledon't think about yeah or don't
they think, oh, I just shouldn'tbother, because, like I've had
(14:14):
people that I coached before,like at the end of the week or
you know, and maybe it was likea rough week and like they were
kind of really struggling to getthe numbers and then at the end
, like the last day of the ofthat week, they're like oh well,
you know, this, this, this,this and this all was happening
this week.
And so I felt like this I'm like, oh, that would have been
(14:34):
probably good to know before.
I mean, obviously things pop uplike during the week
unexpectedly but like, for like,for example, with this, like we
knew we were going to be moving, we knew that we had like all
of these things happening at thesame time, so we were able to
like plan ahead and around those.
Basically.
So, my point is just trying tocommunicate with your coach,
(14:56):
because then they will also beable to help you, which is kind
of we're talking about like knowwhen to push and when to pull
back, like there might becertain days they still want you
to like really get after it andif there's, you know, maybe you
you have a super important likefor you.
It was a deadlift like ifthere's something super
important, they might like kindof organize everything else
(15:17):
around that to make sure thatthat is able to happen as best
as they can.
Obviously, as a coach, um, youstill are obviously in charge of
executing it, but yeah, andthat was that was what I was
going to say.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
This is just a small thing and it probably didn't
make that much of a difference.
But when you're dealing withthe higher stress stuff,
sometimes that could be just themake or break difference that
allows you to hit something ornot hit something.
Now, on Mondays, usually I'mscheduled to do some back
extensions, which I generallylike to go pretty heavy on.
But I just told Liz also, justknowing yourself as an athlete,
(15:55):
this is a good illustration foryou guys.
Like, again, and well, you knowwe're talking about ourselves
we power lift, but like, really,this is applicable across all
fields of athletics, with anytype of coach, athlete,
relationship period, dot, uh,communication basically is the
key and like taking somepersonal responsibility.
So, you know, the backextensions, that's not something
like this program's like a waitfor uh.
But I thought about it and Iwas like, hmm, this is like
(16:18):
directly, you know, going to bebasically like putting some even
more stress on my lower back,um, which generally is helpful
because I'm strengthening it andmaking it more and more
bulletproof.
But but in this week I needed toperform.
That was the only thing that Ineeded.
I just needed to perform.
I don't care if I'm likemissing a quote, unquote, like a
few reps or a few pounds.
(16:39):
So I said hey, like I think I'mgonna go a little lighter.
She's like yeah, and then, likeI did it.
Number one felt like nothing.
Number two I had a greatdeadlift day yeah, so again.
Like do I think that alone?
No, but like do I think thatthat was part of what allowed me
to have a successful day?
absolutely like yeah 100 percentum, and I think you know
communication is just key whenyou are trying to like learn
(17:03):
when to push, when to pull back,yeah, um.
So as far as, like you know,pulling back like that's kind of
like what we just talked aboutthere um, the other side of the
flip side of the coin is when topush um, and I think that
(17:23):
powerlifters oftentimes like dothis automatically there.
Yes, uh, and I think thatspecifically in the sport of
powerlifting, that does seem tohappen like quite often, where
people are like pushingthemselves Um, and I think like
a couple of things, one, justcause you're feeling like really
(17:45):
great, it doesn't mean you gotto go like max effort.
There is something to be saidand I'm learning this myself of
like hitting your top single oryour top weight for the day and
then just knowing like without ashadow of a doubt, that you had
X amount more like 10 morepounds, 20 more pounds, um,
sometimes you definitely need tolike get into that range um to
push yourself and see whereyou're at, but more often than
(18:09):
not, I think it's verybeneficial to really like focus
on moving the weight super,super well, and that can help
you out a lot and a lot withconfidence as well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I mean, I feel like there's, you know, obviously
different phases in training andyou definitely don't need to be
maxing out like every week,every year, yeah, of the year of
every lift, of all the things.
So definitely don't need topush so hard.
And I think what's funny is alot of people are really good at
(18:40):
pushing like their top stuffyeah, like too hard, but then
like they get two accessoriesand they like barely do them and
like really most people shouldprobably be doing the opposite,
they should be pulling back alittle bit on some of their top
things and probably pushing alittle bit harder on accessories
Not all the time, obviously.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
No, I think for most people that is the case.
A lot of people need to push alot harder on the accessories.
I think, depending on whereyou're at, the further you get
into your strength journey,basically, the stronger you are
like absolute strength.
Uh, things shift and you haveto start focusing more on, like
your main three movements andbasically you get more and more
specific.
Um, but if you think of it likeI don't know why this came to
(19:22):
my brain, but like if you thinkof it like a F1, like a formula
one, like driver, like there'sall these things that you got to
be doing, like get in shape,learn how to drive a car.
Like learn how to drive a carwhile it's wet, learn how to
drive a car while it's dark,learn how to race a car, like
all these little things right.
But then, like, if you, as youget closer and closer to the top
(19:47):
or to the like peak of thatsport, all you end up really
doing, I'm gonna guess, isdriving like you're just racing,
because you're so dialed in tolike the car, everything around
it, whatever that like you arejust like only focused on
driving and racing, driving andracing and like all the other
stuff you're already doing, butI think, like when you're, when
you're younger in your career,um, and same thing with
(20:10):
powerlifting it is like highlybeneficial to like focus on like
all the stuff.
Um, you know, of course youhave your main movements, but
all the stuff around it, that'sgoing to really really help you
out and putting more intensitythere.
I think that is a good place topush.
Uh, when to pull back, when topush, that's a good place to
push, for sure, Um, for a lot ofpeople, Um, the other thing
(20:33):
that I wanted to talk about arekind of like relate this like
push and pull kind of dynamic toit's just like life in general.
Um, so we talked about it mainlywith training, but there's
other aspects to it as well.
Um, and if you're, you know, ifyou're in life and you have a
job or whatever and you havelike a big project, like you can
(20:55):
apply this like kind of conceptto that as well, where, like
and with that, it's also it'slike pushing, but it's also like
setting proper expectations,which we've talked about
previously.
But, like you know, it would bevery silly for us to like, you
know, we have this big stressfulthing going on and then if we,
on top of that, we're like, yeah, I think we're going to start a
(21:18):
new business too, Like thatwould be, you know not ideal.
No, not ideal whatsoever and Ithink that that is like key in
life in general.
Like, if you have like thingshappening like let's just say
you know it was back to school,a lot of kids are going back to
school, kids are going back tocollege, things like this.
Like this is a time to preparefor that.
Make sure all yournon-negotiables are being done,
(21:39):
whether that's training, mealprep, things like this, um, and
then whatever time you have or,excuse me, left, maybe just
chill for a second.
Um, I like chilling.
Yeah, liz likes she.
I've been tracking my steps.
Liz be tracking her sitting.
Um, that's how she gets strong.
But but yeah, like I just thinkyou know in life, I think a lot
(22:01):
of people can like relate thisa lot easier with like working
out for some reason, becauseit's like you know we're all
anyone who's listening this isprobably working out before, so
I would imagine it's probablyeasy.
You're like, oh yeah, okay, thatmakes a lot of sense.
But like, take this and applyit to life.
Um, you know, maybe if you aretrying to learn how to cook,
maybe don't try and learn how tocook the week you're moving or
(22:22):
the week your you know boss hassome like giant project, or your
kids going to college thingslike this, or if you do happen
to like it all just falls in atthe same time, like you will
have to like manage yourexpectations of everything, yeah
, which is fine, like I wouldsay that's kind of like what we
did, like we did all of thesethings at once, but like I feel
like we did a pretty good job atlike managing expectations for
(22:46):
each of the things we were doingyeah, um, and we had plans in
placeyes that's another thing.
It's like you gotta have plans.
It really like frees up yourmind to then act on the fly,
because, like there was timesover the past couple weeks when,
like we had a kind of like adlibs and things, or maybe things
did not go as planned, butbecause we had other plans like
in place, it all, relatively,was smooth and never once felt
(23:09):
like it was like oh my gosh yeahchaotic um, and that's
something that, like, I learnedfrom you, like when I like
making plans.
Yeah, liz loves plans I hateplans, but like I used to hate
plans right.
So like now I I've learned andI've I've spoken this before
I've learned the power ofplanning.
It's like it's awesome.
Uh, if you have a good plan,then if you're someone like
(23:31):
myself who's really good underpressure and like ad-libbing,
audible, whatever you want tocall it like that's me.
But if I have that combinedwith a plan, it's like I'm
unstoppable.
That's how I feel, because theproblem when you don't have a
plan is you have no likeexpectations or like goals like
set forth for yourself, and thenyou kind of don't really know
(23:53):
where you're going.
Like my strength would be, Ican kind of work through
whatever.
But if I'm just working throughwhatever with like no goal or
target, then I'm just kind ofworking through whatever, like
Like I'm not you know, tobydoesn't know either no, I'm just
kind of like working throughwhatever and I'm not actually
(24:13):
like working towards anythingwith all those like actions and
reactions.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Rather, yeah, I'm obviously a big fan of plans.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I like them.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It makes my brain happy though.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I don't know what to do if I don't have a plan.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
So I'm not aware.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
It's like on the fly.
I am no um.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I like plans no, yeah , and I mean plans.
Uh, plans can really help youout.
So if you're not, I I thinkeveryone needs to have some sort
of plans.
Um, whether they're, I'm notsaying they need to be super
concrete, like they'redefinitely not in my brain,
they're probably more concretein liz's brain.
But they need to be superconcrete, like they're
definitely not in my brain.
They're probably more concretein Liz's brain, but nothing is
(24:55):
ever concrete in my brain forplanning things.
And then, as I do them, theybecome concrete because that's
what happened.
Weird, weird.
But the plan will also againhelp you with the ability to
know when to push, know when topull back.
The plan that we had kind ofenabled us to give us like a
little preview of like okay,this week's probably not going
to be that strong, or this weekI think we can push and we're
(25:17):
able to then set ourselves up tosucceed.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, I think it kind of sounds silly like an
overlooked or whatever to like.
Oh, I need a plan, likeobviously, I guess, or like.
I don't know, but I think a lotof people don't actually make
plans in their life of, like howthey're gonna do things, yeah,
and they just like try and dothings, which is fine, I mean,
if you can make it work yeah, ifyou can make it work.
(25:41):
But then I think when situationslike this come, where you have
to like push and pull and gottafigure it out, it's definitely
way more challenging.
And then I feel like typicallywhen I see people who like don't
have a plan, they kind of startwhatever the new free crashing
out yeah, yeah, there you go.
Yeah, instead, you want to belocked in basically they like
(26:03):
don't know what to do, so thenlike one of two things happens
either.
Basically nothing gets done verywell and you just see this like
full-on breakdown, or they justlike go, go, go and like run
themselves into the groundbecause they didn't have like a
plan, essentially, and so thennothing really gets done
correctly, but they're justdoing all of it at once and it's
(26:26):
still like nothing is reallydone how they want it to be done
, because they didn't know whatthey were doing when they
started it.
So yeah, and I mean, and then sothey're not like they're not
really pushing or pulling,they're just kind of like
imploding almost and then yeah.
So anyways, it sounds silly,but if you're not a planning
person, but you know you've gotlike crazy things going on you.
(26:48):
You just try making a plan.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, no 100% plan, an outline of a plan, even
because that's better thannothing, yeah, and you don't
have to like stick to the plan,like I have, like I said, like
I'm sure in my brain versusLiz's brain, like when we work
on stuff together like the bestcouple weeks.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
My plan is very planned, exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Her plan is very planned and she is doing that
100%.
And then I also have the planthat she has made up for us, but
in my brain it is not.
I'm just like, okay, this isthe plan, we'll see.
And then I see, but the point isthat it does still help me get
to the end goal and, like Lizsaid, it allows me to very
(27:28):
successfully and effectively Iguess would be a better term
push and pull back Example.
This is like a very small thingthat we did, but we worked
together very well the day that,like Liz moved all this stuff
and like I really like locked inand did shirts.
If either one of us had justlike flipped the jobs, it would
have gone much worse for both ofus.
Number two if both of us hadbeen consistent or insistent
(27:52):
that we had to do like the jobtogether or whatever like we
needed to be involved in both,it wouldn't have gotten done
Like there's literally no way itwould have gotten done.
Um, we were packed to the brimwith our schedules and like,
literally, that plan like freedus up and for me, like I had to
just kind of.
I mean, in this situation itwas probably a little bit more
(28:16):
of a like conscious thing for meto do than liz.
Liz was just doing her thing,but like I had to be like well,
like she's gonna, like you know,we had already kind of packed
together.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
She packed a lot of it and then she was just gonna
like unpack it wherever sheunpacks it and then I'm gonna
come home and that's where it is, and that's what, and like I
just so now he has to findeverything, yeah, and I just
like didn even think about it,and then I didn't spend a single
second thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I was doing what I was doing, she was doing what
she was doing and we're good togo.
Um, and yeah, I guess my pointis all that would have not
worked if we did not have a plan.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, um, so yeah, make a plan If you don't have a
plan like, if you want to besuccessful, you need some sort
of plan period.
What's the thing like you planto?
If you plan to fail, yeah, butif you don't have a plan, plan
to fail basically, yeah, um,yeah.
If you fail to plan, there yougo fail to plan, plan to fail
yeah no, that is facts.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Like if you want to be successful, you have to have
a plan, and like that's foranything that's for anything.
That's what I'm saying.
Like this is just for life.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Like you have to have .
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Now again, do you need to like stick to the plan?
Exactly no, is it like and Ithink that's the thing is people
get way too like we've talkedabout this before too Like.
People get way too like.
They're like oh well, this iswhat was said, so this is what
I'm doing Like, okay, like we'rehumans, I like plants, yes, but
we can change.
We can change our minds.
The plans can be fluid and likethat's fine, I've gotten better
(29:38):
.
Yeah, you've gotten better.
But, like I know, there's a lotof people out there like myself
that don't like to plan, and Iguess my point is planning has
like unlocked a whole new levelof productivity and success,
like straight up success in mylife that I would not be
achieving without planning.
So if you're one of thosepeople that continues crashing
out, stop your crash out make aplan okay if you're a planner
(30:00):
that likes to follow the plan toa t, relax, it'll be okay.
Just, the plan is like anoutline, it's like a podcast
outline, like y'all.
It would be so boring if wejust sat here and read exactly
the outline that we made Waymore fun to have the outline and
then just talk.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
About the plan.
Exactly, but if we didn't havea plan, I would just keep
talking this is why I can't bein charge of this, though,
because I would want to followthe plan.
Liz would just read it.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, we've followed this sort of.
Yeah, exactly, exactly, allright, so it would not go well
yeah, we're gonna log it backinto um, what is basically the
goal of this pushing and pullingand kind of getting, or when to
push, when to pull back, andgetting everything lined up and
the end goal is to, um, you know, achieve greatness on a
(30:51):
specific day.
So that might be for your job,that might be for your marriage,
that might be for your family,uh, might be for powerlifting,
might be weightlifting, whatever.
But generally people will havebig goals and big things to do,
and that is the point of pushingand pulling back and knowing
when to push, knowing when topull back, because if you don't
(31:12):
have, like a big goal, it's kindof less relevant because, like
no, I wouldn't necessarily agreewith that because, like,
sometimes you have to know whento push and pull, like just to
make you like a better personfor like yourself or your family
, or your spouse or for your job, because if you're like pushing
, pushing, pushing, pushing,pushing at work so hard and or
(31:34):
your training or both of those,and then you're never at home to
see your family or kids orhusband or wife or whatever like
, maybe there needs to be alittle pull back somewhere and a
little push of effort with the.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
So like it's not necessarily I mean like
achieving things, yes, but alsolike, just okay, living a life
that you want to live.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
So like my guess, my, my.
Let me rephrase what I said.
So I guess the point of pushingon certain days, pulling back
on other days, is to achievesomething more than what you
were probably doing that exactday.
And I guess that's my point.
So to liz's point, like if youneed to spend more time with
your family, like I'm sorry, butjust like pulling back one day
(32:13):
and getting home early is notgonna like fix or undo like 10
years of not seeing them ever.
Okay, that's not how it works,but but it's a start, exactly,
it's a start.
And if you can stack those winslike we talked about in the
very beginning, stack thatconsistency, then all of a
sudden or quote unquote all of asudden, oh wow, you have a
great family life.
Like I've really seen this turnaround.
Turn around like what did youdo?
(32:36):
Like it just seems likeovernight.
It's like oh no, actually twoyears ago I started like making
a priority to spend more timewith my family.
Just that is an example yeahpower lifting.
Same thing.
Oh my gosh, like you puttogether this crazy total.
Like like the last one, youtotaled x and now you're
totaling y.
Like what would you like?
Would you do different?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I worked.
I worked, like you know, Iworked.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I.
I pushed when I needed to, Ipulled back when I needed to so
that, overall, I could achievethat big goal, and that was kind
of what I was getting at.
Is that a lot of the pushingand pulling that you need to do
in life, like learning when todo that and when not?
It's not this immediategratification that everyone
likes, and I think that's kindof the thing.
It's not.
Yeah, like if someone islistening to this and they're
like okay, like I didn't go allout today, and then they're just
(33:17):
like waiting, like all right,pr is coming, it's like all
right, that's not how that works.
You know, like you know.
Or like oh, like, like Liz said, like relating it to family or
your job, like okay, like youknow, I really really like gave
it my all today at my job.
Like promotions coming tomorrow, like oh yeah, it's like okay,
that's not how that works.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
But you know, being able to have that kind of delay
gratification can reallyoftentimes, I think, lead to a
big payoff, whether that's onthe platform, whether that's in
life, whatever arena that may be, for you, I agree.
So, yeah, all right.
Well, I think that kind of doesit on that topic.
(34:01):
We need to close it out with alittle preview.
What's coming up next?
What are you doing next week?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
well, as we said earlier, I'm competing next
weekend um saturday at what's itcalled the stronger things
showdown.
It's like stranger things.
Um yeah, if you didn't catchthat, I am competing.
We have, I think, six otherfortis ladies that are all gonna
(34:26):
do it, so I'm just going tohave a good time and do a fun
little sbd day.
It has been a while since I'vebeen on the platform, um sort of
a year kind of.
I technically competed inDecember, but that one I didn't
really train for, I just kind ofshowed up and was hurt but, um,
(34:47):
my last like big meet, whatever, was last September, so decided
before I go up to Chicago toget on the platform again.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
It would be good to well tune up yeah to um to to
get on the platform again.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
It would be good to A little tune-up.
Yeah, to get back on theplatform again to do an SVD day.
Basically, we didn't changeanything with my training for
that week, other than because Iwas already supposed to be doing
singles throughout the week forsquat, bench and deadlift.
So we are just going to takeall of those lifts next Saturday
on the platform.
So we are just going to takeall of those lifts next Saturday
(35:22):
on the platform, so make sure Iremember how to do an.
SPD day on the platform Soundsgood, so we're doing that.
And then the meet in Chicagothat I'm like truly like
prepping and peaking for is inSeptember the 13th, so in like a
month and just kind of likegetting you more on the platform
, I think is helpful.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
You did it last year and did really good, to be
honest, even though thestandards are of each individual
thing, but overall you wonthree meets in a row.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I did, yes, but I'm in a very different place right
now in my brain, so we're goingto go.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Probably a better place.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, liz locked in, um, so yeah, so that's what's
for liz.
For me, I'm starting my finalblock leading up into my meet in
november which I need to signup for.
Probably gonna do that liketonight, um, just so that it's
done, so I don't forget, becauseit is filling up.
Um, I like the collegiate day.
There's like nobody on that day, so maybe I'll just be a
college student just pretend,yeah, I don't know can I like
(36:19):
register, um, but yeah, so Igotta meet in november and this
is my goal.
So I have next week is deload,which is perfect, uh, because,
like liz said, we've been reallylike kind of outputting a lot
and I gotta output next weekend.
I got a busy saturday.
I got an early, he's got acoach, seven people.
Yeah, I got an early.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
He's got to coach seven people.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah, I got an early day, early start to the day and
then I got to coach, so it'sgoing to be busy for me.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
I'm sort of coaching, but I'm lifting so I'm not
fully coaching.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Deload week is perfectly timed.
Excellent job coach.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Oh, thanks.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Then after that I'm going to start kind of my prep
for november, like really likedial it in it's like 12 weeks
out yeah, and here's the dealmentally like.
So the first block also overlapswith liz's meet that her and
lane are doing up in chicago,which is going to be another big
thing, and I just kind of getvery like emotionally invested
(37:14):
into these things.
So my first block I willprobably well, I'm not going to
be writing it, but probablyshould be a little bit just like
tapered down.
My goal for that first block isreally like perfect execution.
I don't really care about likethe like I don't know the actual
number like singles, as long asthey're heavy enough to feel
(37:36):
something, we're good, um.
And then my mentality will be,once we get back from surge.
So that's like basicallyprobably the end.
Yeah, it'll literally be likethe deload of that block.
Um, I'll deload and then reallylock in for those last couple
months, um, so that's kind of mymindset going into my next
(37:58):
training block.
We'll see how it pans out inthe past I built a lot of
momentum like.
This was by far my best trainingblock, probably in my life, to
be honest, like overall.
Um, yeah, I've been stronger atindividual lifts, like only a
little bit, though, and thendefinitely one of the other
lists was like lacking a lotmore um any other time that I've
(38:19):
been quote unquote stronger.
So I hit like a lot of prs,like rep prs very close to
actual prs.
Um, anyways, younger nate woulddefinitely want to be hitting
not definitely.
I'd definitely be hitting prsacross the board in the next
block that might have to waitand yeah, that's kind of like
(38:39):
where I'm at now.
I mean, if they come, they comelike if it's easy, it's easy,
like I have no problem with that.
That would be cool, of course,but I mentally am cool with just
hitting what needs to be hitand nothing more.
Uh, kind of like we talkedabout in the very beginning of
this podcast, because I know Ihave this stuff going on.
I want to make sure I give myall to uh those events and meets
(39:00):
and then go from there so yeah,um, all right, that about does
it.
Oh, last but not least, we arehosting a powerlifting meet here
in navarre.
It's going to be called theuspa navarre beach classic.
It's already over halfway.
So if you're listening to thisand you're like on the fence,
(39:20):
maybe I should sign up, maybe Ishouldn't.
I'm gonna tell you you shouldprobably sign up, especially
because there's a few morelocal-ish meets happening this
weekend and then more signupswill happen after that.
So there's 25 slots left.
I want to say maybe 24.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I think.
I think there's maybe 23, ohman two oh man, y'all, there's
only 20, 23 I know I've got afew more that I haven't updated
on the roster yet there's 22 youheard it here 22 23 spots left.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I would make sure you get on that.
It will fill up, um, and Ithink we might do a wait list,
but I don't know.
So make sure you guys getsigned up for that meet if
you're interested in doing it.
This is my and Gary's firstmeet back.
We took a little bit of a breakso you guys could get stronger
after SummerSlam and now we'reback better than ever.
(40:09):
It's gonna be good Kind ofgetting back into it, this one.
And then we got some big plansfor 2026.
So check it out.
Uspa Navarre Beach Classic.
You can find us on on instagram, sign up on the uspa website
and we will see you in decemberin beautiful navarre beach,
florida.
So stay tuned for moreinformation on that um and then,
other than that, hopefully youguys all have an awesome week,
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If not, it'll be later November, early December, yeah we'll see
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Peace.
What's going on, you guys?
Welcome to another episode ofthe Fortis After Hours podcast.
I'm co-host Nate, joined by mywife, liz hey, and we have
another awesome episode plannedfor you guys today.
Today, we're going to betalking about the art of knowing
when to push or pull back,otherwise known as riding the
waves of life, training, etc.
(00:21):
We're going to talk abouttraining, um, and specifically,
like I said, when you need tokind of like push forward, when
you need to pull back, notice inthere I said, uh, when you need
to quit, I didn't say that atall.
So we're going to go with thegeneral assumption that you guys
are consistently getting afteryour goals, whether that's once
a week, twice a week, five timesa week training, or whatever
(00:43):
you may, you may be doing.
We're going to go off thepremonition that you are already
on top of that consistencyaspect.
If you're not, let us know howwe can help you achieve that
consistency piece because, afterall, it is the most important.
It is Okay, I'm done with mylittle intro.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
So, yeah, this is the second episode of the After
Hours podcast and I'm prettyexcited to record this one.
I honestly kind of missedrecording a podcast last week.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I think it's been a couple weeks.
Actually it has been yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
The first week we were busy, I don't know, I
didn't really think about it.
Then last week I was like ohman, we're not recording a
podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, so I was pretty excited to sit down and record
this, recorded this podcast thisevening.
Yeah, it's been a busy coupleweeks.
Yeah, fill us in.
What have we been doing?
We'll fill the world in.
Um, we moved just just a littlemove.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
But we moved, so we were packing.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I guess like two weeks ago now we were packing
and trying to like geteverything ready and situated
for that and then last weekendwe were actually moving actually
moving, yep that is what we'redoing.
So it's been a busy coupleweeks.
It was just a small, littlebitty move.
So, not really anything crazy,but it still takes time in case
you were wondering, still takestime.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Still takes a lot of effort, luckily me and Liz.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I was tired.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, luckily we have .
And, oh, and, we had to fulfilla shirt order which may or may
not have been not the besttiming, but it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, but we we like crushed the teamwork on this one
.
That's what I was just going tosay.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
We luckily work really well as a team.
So I was at the gym a littlebit more that week was still
there, of course, but like I wasat the gym a little bit more
cooking up shirts, she was herepacking, moving stuff and, yeah,
we worked really well as a unittogether which we did.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
We got a lot done in a little bit of time.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Yeah, and I was going to say I think the first
episode was kind of about thatright.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I don't remember.
That feels like a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I can't remember either, but go back, check out
the first episode.
I'm pretty sure we did discussworking as a team and the unit
in a relationship together, um,which we, I would say, for lack
of a better term, put on aclinic over the past couple
weeks, so we still were able to,uh, balance our training,
figure out how to balance ourtraining, um, of course, work
like at the gym and then movingand making sure it's like extra
(03:03):
work.
Yeah and yeah extra work, yeah,which, I have to say, that was
super.
It was a super awesome responsefrom all of you guys.
Thank you so much forpurchasing a shirt, or if you
have purchased a shirt in thepast.
It really helps us just kind oflike spread our mission and our
brand, and we really appreciateevery single one of you.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Plus, I think it's cool when I see you post videos
or yeah, people like post videosor pictures of the shirts and
I'm like, hey, I know that shirtI agree, I thought it was
really cool.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Um, I'm just gonna give them a shout out, but, uh,
one of the couples at the gym,uh, john and tia, they were out
like on a, on a vacation andthey were wearing rocking the
shirt rocking the shirts on thevacation.
I was like all right, likewearing them out, uh, because
that's always my goal whendesigning is, like I try and
design stuff that can be worninside or outside the gym, um,
and oftentimes we see it insidethe gym, not so often outside,
(03:54):
so I thought that was reallycool, um, seeing you guys put
together real life outfits,speak with like our merchandise,
so that's pretty sweet, butyeah, so, anyways, it was very
busy, but this kind of leadsperfectly into our topic for the
day, which is kind of knowingwhen to push, when to pull back,
and I think that's a key aspectof how to succeed during times
(04:18):
of, like higher stress, whetherit's expected stress, kind of
like we had had, or if it'sunexpected, like a life event or
something like that.
Uh, the principles are verysimilar, um, as far as like kind
of pushing and pulling back andgetting yourself like ready to
uh perform whatever that is, so,uh, so, yeah, so that's a
(04:41):
little intro where we've been.
Uh, we should be a little bitmore regular with these podcasts
.
Liz is competing next weekalong with some other people, so
we might try.
Yeah, we'll probably try andrecord at least a quick podcast
next week for you guys, maybe onlike a Sunday or something.
We'll see though.
We'll see how Liz, we'll seehow she's feeling it's just an
SPD day.
Yeah, exactly that's what I'msaying, so it should be fine, or
(05:03):
maybe Saturday night, I don'tknow, we'll see.
We got a live response from Liz.
Anyways, so you're competingnext week.
So, how do you think, like thepast couple weeks affected your
training and or how did you like, what are some things over the
past couple weeks that you didto make sure you're able to
still hit, uh, what you neededto hit, so to speak um, so I
(05:28):
feel like I just kind of I don'tknow it sounds stupid, but like
I knew what I needed to do andlike as far as like in the gym,
and I just did it, even if Ididn't feel like it yeah um, so
I did not feel like working outevery day because I didn't.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
My body was a little tired from however many 50
something flights of stairs thatI did on the moving day yeah
and carrying all the boxes andunpacking all the boxes, but I
definitely still showed up everyday.
Um, I think the numbers thatwere kind of put in for the like
for my main lifts.
(06:08):
It had a good little range inthere and I feel like we made
like the smart choices withinthat range most of the days like
I didn't tubby agrees um, Ididn't always go to like the top
end of the range, which, ofcourse, is what like everybody
always wants to do is get to thetop end of the range, which, of
course, is what like everybodyalways wants to do is get to the
top end of the range, becauseit's like oh yeah, I'm strong, I
(06:29):
can do this.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
Um yeah, so I definitely have the same issues,
don't worry yeah, I think mostpeople do so I definitely didn't
do that.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I don't think I hit the top end of the range on
anything, but I was still withinthe range of everything and so,
like kind of going into it, Iknew that was going to be a real
possibility and just kind ofwas okay with that.
Also, um, because I did want tolike make sure I could put
together all of my lifts and notjust like totally destroy
(06:56):
myself on one day and not beable to do anything like the
rest of the week.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Yeah, and I think that's a key thing to note,
maybe for you guys listening.
Listening because oftentimesmaybe you feel like really good
one of the days, but you knowyou have a lot of stuff going on
.
And I spoke with someone theother day that was going through
a stressful situation but theysaid they're like, oh, I'm not
stressed, though.
I was like right, but it'sstill stress.
One of our good friends, gary,told me years ago stress is
(07:24):
stress.
I'm like that is a reallysimple but very effective quote
and it is true.
Uh, you know, stress isanything that's like outside the
norm put on your body.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
it could be emotional , physical, whatever and it can
be good and bad too, like stressdoesn't necessarily have to be
bad, no, like, working out isstress yeah but that's okay.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Like it's not.
Like, oh my gosh, so Ishouldn't work out at all.
It's like no, that's not whatwe're saying.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Well, and even like moving and making shirts, like
doing all this extra stuff, liketechnically that's stress.
It's not bad, no, and I wasn't,like you know, freaking out
about it, but like it'stechnically still stress because
, it's just something that youhave to do.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, and that I think you brought up a really
key point, which is, like youknow, like if you are, let's say
, you're feeling really good onsquat day, but you know that you
have this stuff going on inyour life and you know that
that's probably at some pointgoing to kind of come to a head,
it's probably smart, even ifyou feel good, just to kind of
hit that like mid-range numberor like the.
(08:18):
You know, because, like yourcoach is put those numbers in
for a reason to help youprogress overall, like in the
big picture, and some days whenyou're really stressed, you know
if you got a lot of stuff goingon or additional things going
on in your life, it's probably agood plan to hit that mid or
lower number, because that's theminimum effective dose.
Another person that isextremely smart Chad Wesley
(08:42):
Smith.
He has a great video from backin I don't even know 2016 maybe
or so long time that I watchedthat uh explains the effect, uh
excuse me, explains the conceptof minimum effective dose in
powerlifting, and it is so true.
When I was younger I was like,oh yeah.
And then, like, as I've gottenolder and just competed longer
(09:04):
in this sport, I've like reallygrown to understand the
importance of that, uh, of thatconcept minimum effective dose
and that's exactly like whatyou're able to do um and where I
was going with that is likesome days it's like you almost
have to like see the future,like yes, could I hit this on
squat?
sure, however, it's squat day,like for us that's monday.
(09:26):
I got a whole week ahead of me.
I have this extra stress goingon, or extra things going on,
like should I hit this?
And oftentimes, when you havethat additional stress, it's
probably time to maybe just pullit back just a touch and hit
what you need to and nothingmore, because chances are which
I think you found like as theweek progresses, or vice versa,
whatever, like maybe you're moretired on monday, whatever, but
(09:47):
like then you'll have that extraenergy in the tank to hit those
other numbers for the wholetotal as a week yeah, and I
think something else that we didtoo was you kind of like
pre-thought about this whenyou're programming, and so, like
my accessories were a littlebit less these weeks, so I had
like less accessories, lessintensity on all of those, just
(10:10):
to kind of help overall withrecovery.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Um, I still focused on like every day, getting like
the correct nutrition in correctwater, hydration, all that good
stuff.
Sleep yeah, like all of that wasstill a priority, which I think
not.
I think I know helped me beable to like better stay on
track the only day that mynutrition was off, which it
wasn't technically off, but Ikind of didn't eat for like most
(10:35):
of the day when we were movingor when I was moving because I
was just going.
But then when I realized it waslike 2 o'clock and I hadn't
eaten anything for an entire day, I then had breakfast.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
The entire day was worth of food.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, I ate all of the food that I was supposed to
eat from two o'clock until.
I went to bed that night.
So, like I still got in, likeall the macros, whatever
calories, whatever you want tocall it, got in all of that, all
the water, all the electrolytes, all that good stuff and I
think that it's an important,maybe, distinction to make,
since we are talking about kindof pushing and pulling back.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
Like I said earlier, this kind of like has the
assumption that you're beingconsistent, but let's just say
you're new to like things likenon-negotiables, like liz just
talked about, hitting thehydration, nutrition, sleep as
best you can, things like this.
That is not really like a part.
If you're, if you're If youhave your lifestyle set up for
you to perform at your best andyou're like fully focused on
(11:28):
hitting your goals, whetherthat's weight loss, strength
gain, powerlifting,weightlifting, whatever, then
you will have to have some sortof non-negotiables.
Generally that would come inthe form like I think for us
like Liz you know, gloss overthere just mentioned like
hydration, nutrition, sleep asbest we can.
For me, I usually get sevenhours, you usually get eight,
(11:50):
pretty much right, um eight,maybe nine if I so, mostly if
I'm lucky, yeah so like thosethings.
They're happening like perioddot, unless there's some sort of
, you know, like emergency, butwe're just talking about kind of
like general stress, and whengeneral stress is going on,
non-negotiables are just thatthey're non-negotiable.
So we still meal prepped, um,we still had everything ready to
(12:12):
rock and roll, and what thatdid was really allow us to do
what we were able to do,continue training throughout
that you know more stressfulperiod um, and still hit our
goals, our targets yeah, becausewe didn't miss any nope
training, we didn't really missany targets, we didn't really
yeah, and we did like.
for me, I noticed a couple timesduring a few sessions I was
(12:33):
just a little bit more gassed,so I would either cut out some
accessories.
Um, I had a really big goal ofhitting 650, which, uh, that was
really cool to hit.
That was last week and that'sthe first time I've hit that
weight.
That's the first time I've hitthat weight.
That's the first time I'veattempted that weight since 2022
, three, no, it was like threeyears.
(12:55):
So, whatever, that is 2022.
Yeah, so it's been three yearssince I attempted that.
I knew that I had that in thisblock.
I was a little bit scared ofthat, not gonna lie.
I was like, oh my, of course.
But I'm like, no, it shouldn'tmatter, because we have all
these things going, I should befine.
There's no reason why Ishouldn't be able to hit that.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And I think something to note, though, is we also, as
our own coaches, know what'sgoing on in our life and know
how crazy it is, so we couldessentially plan accordingly for
it.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
That's a great thing for people that are clients.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
That's where I thing for people that are clients.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
That's my that's where I was going with that.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
So, whether, like, we coach you or someone else
coaches you, or if you have acoach of some kind and I guess
if you don't, um one, maybe getone or two I guess just keep it
in mind yourself, um that likeyou should be communicating with
your coach if you have likesome super crazy weeks going on
(13:51):
because they might want toadjust your programming or they
might want to adjust the numbers, or they might want to adjust
the accessories, or maybe theytake a whole day out just
depending on like what you havegoing on and I just think that's
something that some peopledon't think about yeah or don't
they think, oh, I just shouldn'tbother, because, like I've had
(14:14):
people that I coached before,like at the end of the week or
you know, and maybe it was likea rough week and like they were
kind of really struggling to getthe numbers and then at the end
, like the last day of the ofthat week, they're like oh well,
you know, this, this, this,this and this all was happening
this week.
And so I felt like this I'm like, oh, that would have been
(14:34):
probably good to know before.
I mean, obviously things pop uplike during the week
unexpectedly but like, for like,for example, with this, like we
knew we were going to be moving, we knew that we had like all
of these things happening at thesame time, so we were able to
like plan ahead and around those.
Basically.
So, my point is just trying tocommunicate with your coach,
(14:56):
because then they will also beable to help you, which is kind
of we're talking about like knowwhen to push and when to pull
back, like there might becertain days they still want you
to like really get after it andif there's, you know, maybe you
you have a super important likefor you.
It was a deadlift like ifthere's something super
important, they might like kindof organize everything else
(15:17):
around that to make sure thatthat is able to happen as best
as they can.
Obviously, as a coach, um, youstill are obviously in charge of
executing it, but yeah, andthat was that was what I was
going to say.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
This is just a small thing and it probably didn't
make that much of a difference.
But when you're dealing withthe higher stress stuff,
sometimes that could be just themake or break difference that
allows you to hit something ornot hit something.
Now, on Mondays, usually I'mscheduled to do some back
extensions, which I generallylike to go pretty heavy on.
But I just told Liz also, justknowing yourself as an athlete,
(15:55):
this is a good illustration foryou guys.
Like, again, and well, you knowwe're talking about ourselves
we power lift, but like, really,this is applicable across all
fields of athletics, with anytype of coach, athlete,
relationship period, dot, uh,communication basically is the
key and like taking somepersonal responsibility.
So, you know, the backextensions, that's not something
like this program's like a waitfor uh.
But I thought about it and Iwas like, hmm, this is like
(16:18):
directly, you know, going to bebasically like putting some even
more stress on my lower back,um, which generally is helpful
because I'm strengthening it andmaking it more and more
bulletproof.
But but in this week I needed toperform.
That was the only thing that Ineeded.
I just needed to perform.
I don't care if I'm likemissing a quote, unquote, like a
few reps or a few pounds.
(16:39):
So I said hey, like I think I'mgonna go a little lighter.
She's like yeah, and then, likeI did it.
Number one felt like nothing.
Number two I had a greatdeadlift day yeah, so again.
Like do I think that alone?
No, but like do I think thatthat was part of what allowed me
to have a successful day?
absolutely like yeah 100 percentum, and I think you know
communication is just key whenyou are trying to like learn
(17:03):
when to push, when to pull back,yeah, um.
So as far as, like you know,pulling back like that's kind of
like what we just talked aboutthere um, the other side of the
flip side of the coin is when topush um, and I think that
(17:23):
powerlifters oftentimes like dothis automatically there.
Yes, uh, and I think thatspecifically in the sport of
powerlifting, that does seem tohappen like quite often, where
people are like pushingthemselves Um, and I think like
a couple of things, one, justcause you're feeling like really
(17:45):
great, it doesn't mean you gotto go like max effort.
There is something to be saidand I'm learning this myself of
like hitting your top single oryour top weight for the day and
then just knowing like without ashadow of a doubt, that you had
X amount more like 10 morepounds, 20 more pounds, um,
sometimes you definitely need tolike get into that range um to
push yourself and see whereyou're at, but more often than
(18:09):
not, I think it's verybeneficial to really like focus
on moving the weight super,super well, and that can help
you out a lot and a lot withconfidence as well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I mean, I feel like there's, you know, obviously
different phases in training andyou definitely don't need to be
maxing out like every week,every year, yeah, of the year of
every lift, of all the things.
So definitely don't need topush so hard.
And I think what's funny is alot of people are really good at
(18:40):
pushing like their top stuffyeah, like too hard, but then
like they get two accessoriesand they like barely do them and
like really most people shouldprobably be doing the opposite,
they should be pulling back alittle bit on some of their top
things and probably pushing alittle bit harder on accessories
Not all the time, obviously.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
No, I think for most people that is the case.
A lot of people need to push alot harder on the accessories.
I think, depending on whereyou're at, the further you get
into your strength journey,basically, the stronger you are
like absolute strength.
Uh, things shift and you haveto start focusing more on, like
your main three movements andbasically you get more and more
specific.
Um, but if you think of it likeI don't know why this came to
(19:22):
my brain, but like if you thinkof it like a F1, like a formula
one, like driver, like there'sall these things that you got to
be doing, like get in shape,learn how to drive a car.
Like learn how to drive a carwhile it's wet, learn how to
drive a car while it's dark,learn how to race a car, like
all these little things right.
But then, like, if you, as youget closer and closer to the top
(19:47):
or to the like peak of thatsport, all you end up really
doing, I'm gonna guess, isdriving like you're just racing,
because you're so dialed in tolike the car, everything around
it, whatever that like you arejust like only focused on
driving and racing, driving andracing and like all the other
stuff you're already doing, butI think, like when you're, when
you're younger in your career,um, and same thing with
(20:10):
powerlifting it is like highlybeneficial to like focus on like
all the stuff.
Um, you know, of course youhave your main movements, but
all the stuff around it, that'sgoing to really really help you
out and putting more intensitythere.
I think that is a good place topush.
Uh, when to pull back, when topush, that's a good place to
push, for sure, Um, for a lot ofpeople, Um, the other thing
(20:33):
that I wanted to talk about arekind of like relate this like
push and pull kind of dynamic toit's just like life in general.
Um, so we talked about it mainlywith training, but there's
other aspects to it as well.
Um, and if you're, you know, ifyou're in life and you have a
job or whatever and you havelike a big project, like you can
(20:55):
apply this like kind of conceptto that as well, where, like
and with that, it's also it'slike pushing, but it's also like
setting proper expectations,which we've talked about
previously.
But, like you know, it would bevery silly for us to like, you
know, we have this big stressfulthing going on and then if we,
on top of that, we're like, yeah, I think we're going to start a
(21:18):
new business too, Like thatwould be, you know not ideal.
No, not ideal whatsoever and Ithink that that is like key in
life in general.
Like, if you have like thingshappening like let's just say
you know it was back to school,a lot of kids are going back to
school, kids are going back tocollege, things like this.
Like this is a time to preparefor that.
Make sure all yournon-negotiables are being done,
(21:39):
whether that's training, mealprep, things like this, um, and
then whatever time you have or,excuse me, left, maybe just
chill for a second.
Um, I like chilling.
Yeah, liz likes she.
I've been tracking my steps.
Liz be tracking her sitting.
Um, that's how she gets strong.
But but yeah, like I just thinkyou know in life, I think a lot
(22:01):
of people can like relate thisa lot easier with like working
out for some reason, becauseit's like you know we're all
anyone who's listening this isprobably working out before, so
I would imagine it's probablyeasy.
You're like, oh yeah, okay, thatmakes a lot of sense.
But like, take this and applyit to life.
Um, you know, maybe if you aretrying to learn how to cook,
maybe don't try and learn how tocook the week you're moving or
(22:22):
the week your you know boss hassome like giant project, or your
kids going to college thingslike this, or if you do happen
to like it all just falls in atthe same time, like you will
have to like manage yourexpectations of everything, yeah
, which is fine, like I wouldsay that's kind of like what we
did, like we did all of thesethings at once, but like I feel
like we did a pretty good job atlike managing expectations for
(22:46):
each of the things we were doingyeah, um, and we had plans in
placeyes that's another thing.
It's like you gotta have plans.
It really like frees up yourmind to then act on the fly,
because, like there was timesover the past couple weeks when,
like we had a kind of like adlibs and things, or maybe things
did not go as planned, butbecause we had other plans like
in place, it all, relatively,was smooth and never once felt
(23:09):
like it was like oh my gosh yeahchaotic um, and that's
something that, like, I learnedfrom you, like when I like
making plans.
Yeah, liz loves plans I hateplans, but like I used to hate
plans right.
So like now I I've learned andI've I've spoken this before
I've learned the power ofplanning.
It's like it's awesome.
Uh, if you have a good plan,then if you're someone like
(23:31):
myself who's really good underpressure and like ad-libbing,
audible, whatever you want tocall it like that's me.
But if I have that combinedwith a plan, it's like I'm
unstoppable.
That's how I feel, because theproblem when you don't have a
plan is you have no likeexpectations or like goals like
set forth for yourself, and thenyou kind of don't really know
(23:53):
where you're going.
Like my strength would be, Ican kind of work through
whatever.
But if I'm just working throughwhatever with like no goal or
target, then I'm just kind ofworking through whatever, like
Like I'm not you know, tobydoesn't know either no, I'm just
kind of like working throughwhatever and I'm not actually
(24:13):
like working towards anythingwith all those like actions and
reactions.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Rather, yeah, I'm obviously a big fan of plans.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I like them.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It makes my brain happy though.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I don't know what to do if I don't have a plan.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
So I'm not aware.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
It's like on the fly.
I am no um.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
I like plans no, yeah , and I mean plans.
Uh, plans can really help youout.
So if you're not, I I thinkeveryone needs to have some sort
of plans.
Um, whether they're, I'm notsaying they need to be super
concrete, like they'redefinitely not in my brain,
they're probably more concretein liz's brain.
But they need to be superconcrete, like they're
definitely not in my brain.
They're probably more concretein Liz's brain, but nothing is
(24:55):
ever concrete in my brain forplanning things.
And then, as I do them, theybecome concrete because that's
what happened.
Weird, weird.
But the plan will also againhelp you with the ability to
know when to push, know when topull back.
The plan that we had kind ofenabled us to give us like a
little preview of like okay,this week's probably not going
to be that strong, or this weekI think we can push and we're
(25:17):
able to then set ourselves up tosucceed.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, I think it kind of sounds silly like an
overlooked or whatever to like.
Oh, I need a plan, likeobviously, I guess, or like.
I don't know, but I think a lotof people don't actually make
plans in their life of, like howthey're gonna do things, yeah,
and they just like try and dothings, which is fine, I mean,
if you can make it work yeah, ifyou can make it work.
(25:41):
But then I think when situationslike this come, where you have
to like push and pull and gottafigure it out, it's definitely
way more challenging.
And then I feel like typicallywhen I see people who like don't
have a plan, they kind of startwhatever the new free crashing
out yeah, yeah, there you go.
Yeah, instead, you want to belocked in basically they like
(26:03):
don't know what to do, so thenlike one of two things happens
either.
Basically nothing gets done verywell and you just see this like
full-on breakdown, or they justlike go, go, go and like run
themselves into the groundbecause they didn't have like a
plan, essentially, and so thennothing really gets done
correctly, but they're justdoing all of it at once and it's
(26:26):
still like nothing is reallydone how they want it to be done
, because they didn't know whatthey were doing when they
started it.
So yeah, and I mean, and then sothey're not like they're not
really pushing or pulling,they're just kind of like
imploding almost and then yeah.
So anyways, it sounds silly,but if you're not a planning
person, but you know you've gotlike crazy things going on you.
(26:48):
You just try making a plan.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, no 100% plan, an outline of a plan, even
because that's better thannothing, yeah, and you don't
have to like stick to the plan,like I have, like I said, like
I'm sure in my brain versusLiz's brain, like when we work
on stuff together like the bestcouple weeks.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
My plan is very planned, exactly.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Her plan is very planned and she is doing that
100%.
And then I also have the planthat she has made up for us, but
in my brain it is not.
I'm just like, okay, this isthe plan, we'll see.
And then I see, but the point isthat it does still help me get
to the end goal and, like Lizsaid, it allows me to very
(27:28):
successfully and effectively Iguess would be a better term
push and pull back Example.
This is like a very small thingthat we did, but we worked
together very well the day that,like Liz moved all this stuff
and like I really like locked inand did shirts.
If either one of us had justlike flipped the jobs, it would
have gone much worse for both ofus.
Number two if both of us hadbeen consistent or insistent
(27:52):
that we had to do like the jobtogether or whatever like we
needed to be involved in both,it wouldn't have gotten done
Like there's literally no way itwould have gotten done.
Um, we were packed to the brimwith our schedules and like,
literally, that plan like freedus up and for me, like I had to
just kind of.
I mean, in this situation itwas probably a little bit more
(28:16):
of a like conscious thing for meto do than liz.
Liz was just doing her thing,but like I had to be like well,
like she's gonna, like you know,we had already kind of packed
together.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
She packed a lot of it and then she was just gonna
like unpack it wherever sheunpacks it and then I'm gonna
come home and that's where it is, and that's what, and like I
just so now he has to findeverything, yeah, and I just
like didn even think about it,and then I didn't spend a single
second thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I was doing what I was doing, she was doing what
she was doing and we're good togo.
Um, and yeah, I guess my pointis all that would have not
worked if we did not have a plan.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, um, so yeah, make a plan If you don't have a
plan like, if you want to besuccessful, you need some sort
of plan period.
What's the thing like you planto?
If you plan to fail, yeah, butif you don't have a plan, plan
to fail basically, yeah, um,yeah.
If you fail to plan, there yougo fail to plan, plan to fail
yeah no, that is facts.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Like if you want to be successful, you have to have
a plan, and like that's foranything that's for anything.
That's what I'm saying.
Like this is just for life.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Like you have to have .
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Now again, do you need to like stick to the plan?
Exactly no, is it like and Ithink that's the thing is people
get way too like we've talkedabout this before too Like.
People get way too like.
They're like oh well, this iswhat was said, so this is what
I'm doing Like, okay, like we'rehumans, I like plants, yes, but
we can change.
We can change our minds.
The plans can be fluid and likethat's fine, I've gotten better
(29:38):
.
Yeah, you've gotten better.
But, like I know, there's a lotof people out there like myself
that don't like to plan, and Iguess my point is planning has
like unlocked a whole new levelof productivity and success,
like straight up success in mylife that I would not be
achieving without planning.
So if you're one of thosepeople that continues crashing
out, stop your crash out make aplan okay if you're a planner
(30:00):
that likes to follow the plan toa t, relax, it'll be okay.
Just, the plan is like anoutline, it's like a podcast
outline, like y'all.
It would be so boring if wejust sat here and read exactly
the outline that we made Waymore fun to have the outline and
then just talk.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
About the plan.
Exactly, but if we didn't havea plan, I would just keep
talking this is why I can't bein charge of this, though,
because I would want to followthe plan.
Liz would just read it.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, we've followed this sort of.
Yeah, exactly, exactly, allright, so it would not go well
yeah, we're gonna log it backinto um, what is basically the
goal of this pushing and pullingand kind of getting, or when to
push, when to pull back, andgetting everything lined up and
the end goal is to, um, you know, achieve greatness on a
(30:51):
specific day.
So that might be for your job,that might be for your marriage,
that might be for your family,uh, might be for powerlifting,
might be weightlifting, whatever.
But generally people will havebig goals and big things to do,
and that is the point of pushingand pulling back and knowing
when to push, knowing when topull back, because if you don't
(31:12):
have, like a big goal, it's kindof less relevant because, like
no, I wouldn't necessarily agreewith that because, like,
sometimes you have to know whento push and pull, like just to
make you like a better personfor like yourself or your family
, or your spouse or for your job, because if you're like pushing
, pushing, pushing, pushing,pushing at work so hard and or
(31:34):
your training or both of those,and then you're never at home to
see your family or kids orhusband or wife or whatever like
, maybe there needs to be alittle pull back somewhere and a
little push of effort with the.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
So like it's not necessarily I mean like
achieving things, yes, but alsolike, just okay, living a life
that you want to live.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
So like my guess, my, my.
Let me rephrase what I said.
So I guess the point of pushingon certain days, pulling back
on other days, is to achievesomething more than what you
were probably doing that exactday.
And I guess that's my point.
So to liz's point, like if youneed to spend more time with
your family, like I'm sorry, butjust like pulling back one day
(32:13):
and getting home early is notgonna like fix or undo like 10
years of not seeing them ever.
Okay, that's not how it works,but but it's a start, exactly,
it's a start.
And if you can stack those winslike we talked about in the
very beginning, stack thatconsistency, then all of a
sudden or quote unquote all of asudden, oh wow, you have a
great family life.
Like I've really seen this turnaround.
Turn around like what did youdo?
(32:36):
Like it just seems likeovernight.
It's like oh no, actually twoyears ago I started like making
a priority to spend more timewith my family.
Just that is an example yeahpower lifting.
Same thing.
Oh my gosh, like you puttogether this crazy total.
Like like the last one, youtotaled x and now you're
totaling y.
Like what would you like?
Would you do different?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
I worked.
I worked, like you know, Iworked.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I.
I pushed when I needed to, Ipulled back when I needed to so
that, overall, I could achievethat big goal, and that was kind
of what I was getting at.
Is that a lot of the pushingand pulling that you need to do
in life, like learning when todo that and when not?
It's not this immediategratification that everyone
likes, and I think that's kindof the thing.
It's not.
Yeah, like if someone islistening to this and they're
like okay, like I didn't go allout today, and then they're just
(33:17):
like waiting, like all right,pr is coming, it's like all
right, that's not how that works.
You know, like you know.
Or like oh, like, like Liz said, like relating it to family or
your job, like okay, like youknow, I really really like gave
it my all today at my job.
Like promotions coming tomorrow, like oh yeah, it's like okay,
that's not how that works.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
No.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
But you know, being able to have that kind of delay
gratification can reallyoftentimes, I think, lead to a
big payoff, whether that's onthe platform, whether that's in
life, whatever arena that may be, for you, I agree.
So, yeah, all right.
Well, I think that kind of doesit on that topic.
(34:01):
We need to close it out with alittle preview.
What's coming up next?
What are you doing next week?
Speaker 2 (34:05):
well, as we said earlier, I'm competing next
weekend um saturday at what's itcalled the stronger things
showdown.
It's like stranger things.
Um yeah, if you didn't catchthat, I am competing.
We have, I think, six otherfortis ladies that are all gonna
(34:26):
do it, so I'm just going tohave a good time and do a fun
little sbd day.
It has been a while since I'vebeen on the platform, um sort of
a year kind of.
I technically competed inDecember, but that one I didn't
really train for, I just kind ofshowed up and was hurt but, um,
(34:47):
my last like big meet, whatever, was last September, so decided
before I go up to Chicago toget on the platform again.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
It would be good to well tune up yeah to um to to
get on the platform again.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
It would be good to A little tune-up.
Yeah, to get back on theplatform again to do an SVD day.
Basically, we didn't changeanything with my training for
that week, other than because Iwas already supposed to be doing
singles throughout the week forsquat, bench and deadlift.
So we are just going to takeall of those lifts next Saturday
on the platform.
So we are just going to takeall of those lifts next Saturday
(35:22):
on the platform, so make sure Iremember how to do an.
SPD day on the platform Soundsgood, so we're doing that.
And then the meet in Chicagothat I'm like truly like
prepping and peaking for is inSeptember the 13th, so in like a
month and just kind of likegetting you more on the platform
, I think is helpful.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
You did it last year and did really good, to be
honest, even though thestandards are of each individual
thing, but overall you wonthree meets in a row.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I did, yes, but I'm in a very different place right
now in my brain, so we're goingto go.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Probably a better place.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, liz locked in, um, so yeah, so that's what's
for liz.
For me, I'm starting my finalblock leading up into my meet in
november which I need to signup for.
Probably gonna do that liketonight, um, just so that it's
done, so I don't forget, becauseit is filling up.
Um, I like the collegiate day.
There's like nobody on that day, so maybe I'll just be a
college student just pretend,yeah, I don't know can I like
(36:19):
register, um, but yeah, so Igotta meet in november and this
is my goal.
So I have next week is deload,which is perfect, uh, because,
like liz said, we've been reallylike kind of outputting a lot
and I gotta output next weekend.
I got a busy saturday.
I got an early, he's got acoach, seven people.
Yeah, I got an early.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
He's got to coach seven people.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Yeah, I got an early day, early start to the day and
then I got to coach, so it'sgoing to be busy for me.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
I'm sort of coaching, but I'm lifting so I'm not
fully coaching.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Deload week is perfectly timed.
Excellent job coach.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Oh, thanks.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Then after that I'm going to start kind of my prep
for november, like really likedial it in it's like 12 weeks
out yeah, and here's the dealmentally like.
So the first block also overlapswith liz's meet that her and
lane are doing up in chicago,which is going to be another big
thing, and I just kind of getvery like emotionally invested
(37:14):
into these things.
So my first block I willprobably well, I'm not going to
be writing it, but probablyshould be a little bit just like
tapered down.
My goal for that first block isreally like perfect execution.
I don't really care about likethe like I don't know the actual
number like singles, as long asthey're heavy enough to feel
(37:36):
something, we're good, um.
And then my mentality will be,once we get back from surge.
So that's like basicallyprobably the end.
Yeah, it'll literally be likethe deload of that block.
Um, I'll deload and then reallylock in for those last couple
months, um, so that's kind of mymindset going into my next
(37:58):
training block.
We'll see how it pans out inthe past I built a lot of
momentum like.
This was by far my best trainingblock, probably in my life, to
be honest, like overall.
Um, yeah, I've been stronger atindividual lifts, like only a
little bit, though, and thendefinitely one of the other
lists was like lacking a lotmore um any other time that I've
(38:19):
been quote unquote stronger.
So I hit like a lot of prs,like rep prs very close to
actual prs.
Um, anyways, younger nate woulddefinitely want to be hitting
not definitely.
I'd definitely be hitting prsacross the board in the next
block that might have to waitand yeah, that's kind of like
(38:39):
where I'm at now.
I mean, if they come, they comelike if it's easy, it's easy,
like I have no problem with that.
That would be cool, of course,but I mentally am cool with just
hitting what needs to be hitand nothing more.
Uh, kind of like we talkedabout in the very beginning of
this podcast, because I know Ihave this stuff going on.
I want to make sure I give myall to uh those events and meets
(39:00):
and then go from there so yeah,um, all right, that about does
it.
Oh, last but not least, we arehosting a powerlifting meet here
in navarre.
It's going to be called theuspa navarre beach classic.
It's already over halfway.
So if you're listening to thisand you're like on the fence,
(39:20):
maybe I should sign up, maybe Ishouldn't.
I'm gonna tell you you shouldprobably sign up, especially
because there's a few morelocal-ish meets happening this
weekend and then more signupswill happen after that.
So there's 25 slots left.
I want to say maybe 24.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
I think.
I think there's maybe 23, ohman two oh man, y'all, there's
only 20, 23 I know I've got afew more that I haven't updated
on the roster yet there's 22 youheard it here 22 23 spots left.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I would make sure you get on that.
It will fill up, um, and Ithink we might do a wait list,
but I don't know.
So make sure you guys getsigned up for that meet if
you're interested in doing it.
This is my and Gary's firstmeet back.
We took a little bit of a breakso you guys could get stronger
after SummerSlam and now we'reback better than ever.
(40:09):
It's gonna be good Kind ofgetting back into it, this one.
And then we got some big plansfor 2026.
So check it out.
Uspa Navarre Beach Classic.
You can find us on on instagram, sign up on the uspa website
and we will see you in decemberin beautiful navarre beach,
florida.
So stay tuned for moreinformation on that um and then,
other than that, hopefully youguys all have an awesome week,
(40:30):
uh, wherever you're at if anyonemissed out on a shirt order,
our pre-order is open.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Surprised, one more time toby apparently decided he
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Honestly, it might be gone bythis time, so don't quote me on
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And this will be the last preorder that we do, like
the last apparel that we dountil November, like our kind of
like Black Friday timeframe.
So my goal I will say this nowmy goal will be to have the next
pre-order starting kind ofearly November and then, when
I'm competing, that'll be goingon basically.
(41:21):
So we'll see, but that's goingto be my goal.
If not, it'll be later November, early December, yeah we'll see
.
But no, as I think about it,that doesn't make sense.
No, it'll be early November,stay tuned.
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There is a pickup option.
I'll say it again there is apickup option.
Um, yeah, get the select theright, the correct option.
Grab yourself some apparel.
Last time, until november, um,and yeah I think that's all the
little announcements or anythingwe have.
Hopefully you guys are enjoyingour uh kind of updated podcast
(42:17):
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us a little more freedom toexpand into other topics.
And if you guys have anythingyou want us to cover, uh, let us
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We have the link in our biothat money goes directly towards
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So that costs us money.
So we have have um, some of youguys that have been supporting
(42:38):
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So we really appreciate that um, and if you're interested in
doing that, that is in our bioas well.
All right, I think that does itthat's it that's it.
We'll see you guys on the nextepisode.
Hopefully you guys have anawesome day, night, morning,
whenever you listen to this, andwe'll see you guys next time.
Peace.
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