August 7, 2025 • 52 mins
Welcome back Kevin Pillar! And a shoutout to Jen Pawol, who will be the first female umpire in a regular season MLB game.
(4:10) The San Diego Padres are coming in hot after a comeback W. We review all of the recent acquisitions that are helping them close the NL West gap. Who is best in the regular season and playoffs, Dodgers or Pads?
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(20:35) Gavin Williams almost dealt a no-hitter but it was spoiled by a Juan Soto dinger. Will Stephen Vogt get in trouble for letting him throw 126 pitches?
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(33:02) There might be something wrong with the Mets as they’re 2-8 in their last 10 games.
(34:42) Are teams letting their future stars truly cook? Lawrence Butler is sitting against lefties lately. KP also ties it to the Roman Anthony conversation.
(43:40) Is Max Kepler going to start producing for the Phillies or will they make a change?
(46:24) The Rockies are the best medicine for struggling teams.
(48:39) Congratulations to Adam Jones for getting inducted into the Orioles Hall of Fame this Saturday. And Happy Birthday Mike Trout!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Look at this screw today. We got Kevin Pilar, Cam Mayben.
My ears already falling off.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Plar.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
You might be looking like you're from the nineteen nineties
a little bit today, but that's okay. Throwback quality. Yeah,
you're a throwback today. So if anyone's looking at him like,
hey it he looks a little bit like my favorite
hitcom in nineteen ninety four, that's okay, that's okay. It's
part of the retro vibes today.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
How you been, man, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm good. I just got back in town. You know,
sorry about the bat internet connection. They cut my internet
line at the street and they're supposed to be fixing
it today. So I'm running a little hotspot right now.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
They're okay, we hear you. Good, okay. And Cam's been
there before, looking nice and crisp today.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Cam, Oh yeah, I'm locked in.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
I had a nice little conference call at Team Mobiles
on him. I had to say, hey, foul Territory doesn't
stop just because you guys are not doing your job.
And I also pay my bill early, you know. Mike
Mark said, So I'm cooking right now, man. I checked
my I did my speed test. I'm cooking right now,
so let's keep it going.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Paying your bills always helps, it never hurt, always.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Helps, never never hurts. The fame on time too.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Before we start, I do want to shout out a
special moment coming up this weekend. Jen Powal is going
to be the first female umpire to a regular season game.
We've got the Braves and the Marlins. It's on Saturday.
It's really cool. So there's been moments where we've had
a female umpire in a spring training game and other
scenarios in the minor leagues, but this one will be
(01:32):
in a regular season game. Long overdue. She's forty eight
years old, she's been through the rank, she was a
former college softball player and then has spent a lot
of time as an ump cam.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
This is cool, This is this is awesome.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
I saw this last night as I was watching the
Padres take on the Diamondbacks, and I thought, you know,
like you say, Scott, long overdue. When you look at
some of the other sports in the NBA, the NFL soccer,
you look around the league and you have women that
have already, you know, taken this step.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
So this is this is great.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Shout out to her for her love of the game
or passion, her consistency, and I'm excited to watch man.
I know this will be a big moment for emilb
and and for her and her family as well.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
KP what he got, Yeah, I much like he said,
long overdue, But I'm I'm also very happy that it
wasn't given to her, that it was earned. I'm a
big believer in you know, no matter what you're doing,
you got to go out and earn it. And obviously,
forty eight years old, she's paid her dues, She's worked
herself up from you know, probably instructional league all the
way up through Triple A and now getting a chance
(02:34):
to call a game behind and play It's really cool.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Did either of you ever play a minor league game
where there was a female umpire, because I know there
are some in the minor leagues.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
In training, go.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Ahead, Yeah, I was gonna say I did not. I
did not. I don't. I don't remember it at all.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
I don't remember spring training or even my last year
in Triple A. I don't remember it at all. So
I'm excited about this is I think this is awesome
for the game.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, I had seen a couple in spring training this year,
not behind home plate, they were doing the bases. But
once again, yeah, obviously it's important to make a big
deal about it, but once again, I'm a big believer
in earning it. They've earned it and we should celebrate it.
But after today, you got to treat her like every
(03:25):
other umpire.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That's right, that's right, that's what she wants. So after
she played college ball, she.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Was umpiring in NCAA softball from twenty ten to twenty sixteen,
MLB invited her to an umpire training academy, and then
because she had had a try out in August of
twenty fifteen, just like you said, KP gets into rookie
ball in twenty sixteen, moves up the rank, gets to
Triple A in twenty twenty three, and then last year
became the first female I'M to work a spring training
(03:54):
game since Reat Cortesio in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
That was a big gap there.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And then later in the twenty season, she was named
a crew chief, eventually to the call up list for
the major league level, and that's why we're at this
point now where she gets that call up for Saturday's game.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
So cool.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
We'll keep an eye on it on the weekend. Let's
charge charge about all those San Diego Padres are coming
in hot cam, your former team making it a little
two game deficit in the National League West with plenty
of time and some games against the Dodgers still to go.
But they had a nice comeback win yesterday. And you
(04:29):
know what helps trade editions like Ryan o'hearen hitting a
home run in the ninth inning off a bad bullpen,
and what the Diamondbacks have and a nasty bullpen and
what the Padres have, so they get another run in
extras and then they win it.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I was sitting back watching that game, two to one
going into that last inning, and sure enough, there you go,
hanging slider. Ron O'Hearn comes through big, and you know,
I'm not mistaken. That was his first homer against the
lefty right. So I just like all the things that
are going on right now, the synergy, the chemistry, that's
togetherness that the Padres are playing with, and and and Scotty.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
You know, my favorite thing about the.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Padres is we talked about it with the Brewers. They
know how to manufacture runs.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
You see a Jose Glacias, I mean.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Throwing out singles, bogie starting to swing it. Well, you know,
he's getting hot. I love the Freddy Forermen acquisition. Right,
that's the one that's that nobody's gonna talk about. Freddy
Verman is gonna be the guy that somewhere down the
stretch when you need a big win, you need to
get a guy over.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
He's gonna lay down a bunch.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
He's gonna do a baseball play type of thing that's
gonna propel the Padres. So I just love all the
moves and right, you know, hughe Ron and her to
come up. But I think this is just bigger than
just one or two pieces. I mean they they covered
so many holes across the board, depth, arms, chemistry, the
right type of characters.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
This was fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
They've even got the mister Clutch from last year, Jose Glacias,
who came through in extras too. I mean, he was
steadying signed back with the Mets. Mets didn't want him
and he's like, my dream is to be in the
NLCS this year and have a big clutch knock against
the mass.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Every off season.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
I'm sorry kp On much you go, but just think
about this every offseason. Here we are talking about Jose
Iglacias signing.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Minor league deals. What are we doing here?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
We are every year talking about oh La Luisa Rise
and his defense, and he doesn't hit the homers and
he's gonna win like his third or four three batting
titles in the row.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Like, let's start to.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Celebrate the baseball players, right, the guys who played the
game and make winning plays.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
And I'm tired of hearing about what these guys don't
do well.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
They continue to be clutch, and the Padres and aj Peeler,
they very much value these guys.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, I was gonna say good for Ryan O'Hearn. You know,
when you get traded mid midseason, you're kind of just
looking for that moment where you feel like you belong
on your new team. There's a lot of pressure getting
traded over a team, especially a team like the Padres
that have goals of winning a World Series. And for
him to step up first home run against the left
handed picture right there, And I don't really I didn't
(07:04):
really get a chance to see the game. I don't
know what the bench looked like that in that situation.
You know, probably wasn't getting a lot of chances against
left handers in Baltimore, and that's just something that just
gives him confidence where the Padres are like, it's the
ninth inning, you're our guy, we brought you over here
for this reason. For him to hit a big home
run whether like that, it's cool to see. And you know,
(07:25):
we talked about the Dodgers early in the season, a
team where you look at their roster and it's just
star after star after star after star, and the Padres
are short quickly shortening that gap. You could talk about
the Padres lineup and it's star after star after star,
and they also have those glue guys you talked about
the Jose Iglesias. I know what it's like to be undervalued, underappreciated.
(07:45):
Some of the most important things you do don't show
up on a stat sheet. It's hard to quantify clutch,
it's hard to quantify clubhouse chemistry and culture, and you know,
just being a good teammate. It's gonna be an interesting
race down the stretch.
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discount foul. So I want to bring up this quote
from O, her new addition to the team, and usually
a really good interview we've had him on Nice and
(09:11):
Simple Cam. He goes, this is the deepest lineup I've
ever been a part of. Now, remember he was on
the Ools this year. He's been on the Orioles I
think at least last year, if not the year before
as well. So some Orioles teams that could bang a
little bit. But he he did not hesitate. He was
very clear, this is the team, not the one I
(09:32):
was on.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Yeah, And then when I look at the word deep,
you know, I said it the other day, Scotty.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
The details matter.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
And when I talk about deep, they don't just wait
around for the homer, right, They really stretch out a rotation,
They really stretch out a bullpen. They have team at bats, right,
You're seeing guys fighting when they get to two strikes,
you know, turning the two count into a seven, eight, nine,
ten pitch at bat. Like those are the type of
you know, quality of at bats that make that depth
really serious. Instead of just waiting for the home or
(10:01):
waiting for that guy to hit a home run or
do something big, they have a way to may affect
the runs and just really drain the life out.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Of a rotation and a bullpen, as you saw last night.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
So I think that's that's what he means when he
talks about death as well as KP talking about the
you know, the stars in that line up, they're really
starting to play just like they are stars.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Do old teammates care when someone says that, you know,
he was on the twenty three and twenty four to
Oer's that made the playoffs, KP or you're like, hey,
good for him, I'm happy for him.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, yeah, I mean when you get traded or when
you play on a new team, you got to be
all in. And I'd like to see that as he's
just being all in. This is not like he's not
throwing shade. It's easy for us to sit here. Or
if I'm an Orioles fan, you know, how dare he
say that? Like what else is a player supposed to do?
He gets traded to a new place, a microphone gets
(10:51):
stuck in his face, He's coming off this super emotional
home run, he finally feels like he belongs. He probably
get asked a question, is this a deepest lineup you've
ever been a part of? And he probably says, yeah,
this is the deepest lineup I've ever been a part of.
And that's not throwing shade at the team he was
previously on. That's just him showing his commitment to his
new team, wanting to be part of the boys.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Hey, one more component for you, cam Michael King, who
can pitch like a number one if he's feeling good,
scheduled for Saturday, and they're playing the Red Sox on Saturday,
so he should be back for the stretch rud and
he's feeling all right.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Yeah, and right now, I'm sure he's in a place
where they've taken their time.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
He's feeling good, he's feeling healthy. And this is like
a late trade line, uh, you know, acquisition. And you
talk about Michael King.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
So we talk about Mason Miller coming in shutting the
door last night. We know how dominant the bullpen is being,
and then you add this guy back to the rotation.
It just, you know, I think it bowls, you know,
well for the Padres. And I'm you know, I'll say
it right now, I think they will end up winning
this division because more than anything, they're healthy right now.
But I love the chemistry that they're playing with. Like
KP said, there's no Statford character, chemistry and camaraderie.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
So and this is the most together I've seen them in.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
The last two years. I talked about it last year.
Mike shild coming in really has brought the boys together.
And I really believe teams go how their manager goes.
And he's the type of guy you show up every
day and you're excited to come to the ballpark and
play for and you see them these guys.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Okay, pop quiz At the finish line here, I want
you guys to tell me which team you like better
for the regular season, because I think they're both playoff teams,
and which team you like better in October? You can
have different answers here. Which team do you think wins
the National League West? And do you think is better
for a regular season run? Now, remember you tighten things
up in the playoffs. You don't have to worry about
(12:40):
your number five start or stuff like that. Right, So,
I think there's a big difference. I've done that sometimes,
Like last year we're talking about the Phillies and the Mets.
I'm like, Phillies I like better in the regular season,
Mets I like better than the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That's how that plays out.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
So with the Dodgers and the padres KP, what do
you like regular season?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
What do you like October?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
This might shock some people here, but I think I
like the Padres better in the regular season because I
do think it means more to them to win a
division than it does to the Dodgers. And in a
playoff series where we're standing right now, the way both
teams are playing, I think I would have to take
the Padres too. And I just look at how deep
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their bullpen is. It's a healthy bullpen. And when the Dodgers'
bullpen is healthy, it can be as good as the
Padres bullpen. But I think about the bullpen of the
Padres and how good it is and how deep it is,
and they have five legitimate closures on the back end.
You can shorten the game in a postseason series.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, that's true. Cam. Do you feel the same way.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Hey, my boy said it, Superman said it. I think
it's that simple. I mean, I'm looking at it all
in totality. I'm looking at even right now, from beginning
to end, what Mookie Betts has went through.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Right That's one of their key pieces, that's one of
the cornerstones.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I just think sometimes you have seasons, like you know,
Mookie maybe have, not saying he won't get it together,
but just things just feel right for the Padres. And
then KP said it, when you talk about being able
to shorten game, shorten the game and make it a
five inning game, the Padres have just that. I mean,
if somebody gets in trouble at the bullpen, they can
go to another guy, they can go to another guy.
They don't have to to wish and hope that hey,
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this guy figures it out a pit a batter or
two from now. And I just think that that lineup
I like right now. I love the pieces that they added. Defensively,
I think they're better. I think the starting rotation is
better right now. I don't know how healthy those guys
will be. And then too, just just coming coming into
the season on the back end, thinking that these guys
are gonna dominate, you know, the snails of the world
(14:40):
and some of the other guys that they'll have coming back. Yeah,
I'm leaning towards the Padres on both ends for sure.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I'm leaning towards the Padres as well.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I think they've got five guys that can close out games,
and the Dodgers have a really strong bullpen too. I
just haven't seen something talent wise like what the Padres
are bringing to the table with their bullpen, even if
the Dodgers have a little edge I think on offense.
The other thing I look at is how does Michael
King look over the next weekend or a month and
a half, Because if he looks like the Michael King
that we used to see a year and a half,
(15:10):
then KP. I mean that's a number one starter and
he was dominant from what I remember in the playoffs
last year.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, I mean health is the big thing. I mean,
we talked about the Padres bullpen. They're healthy right now.
If you get the Dodgers' bullpen healthy, which is a
big if you know, you got Kirby Eate's out, you
got Tanner, Scott out, Blake Training's coming back. I mean
I take those three in the back end of a
bullpen any day of the week. But the question is
are they going to be healthy? Are they going to
be able to kind of get into mid season form?
(15:39):
You know, we're almost entering September here, you know, we're
getting close to the end of the season. Are they
gonna have enough time to you know, get ready and
get back into you know, closing shape. I Mean that's
the question that I need to needs to be answered
to me.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, and listen not to mention.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
At the end of the day, the Padres just have
the not only do they have a bullpen, they have
the depth like KPC. I mean they have you named five,
but they had I mean nobody talking about more Home.
I mean he was an All Star, right like that
dude can come in and get left these alrighty's out.
There's so many places you can go to. I just
I just think, I mean, you know what, I've said
it before. We very rarely, we haven't had a back
(16:17):
to back World Cities champion, So it just it feels
like the Padres time right now, I think, And I
don't think they're afraid anymore, right, I know that the
Dodgers have the history behind them, the winning pedigree, but
the I think the Padres they just when you watch
them play, you see something different. You talked about the
KP talking talked about it last night. I was watching
the game when O'Hearn hit that homer. Manny Machado, you
(16:38):
know he's unk now in the locker room. Is like,
not only is he coming outside, he's climbing over the
railing right like he could have went to the stab.
But like dudes are excited and hype and playing for
each other. It looks like your at bat means just
as much to me as it means to you. And
when you have that going, man, when you when you
have guys showing up and really rooting for each other,
if it starts to create something special, and you add,
(17:00):
like Mason Miller, these are clubhouse guys. These aren't just
talented guys, their character guys. And you just continue to
add character with the talent you're spelling. You're spelling, you
know something special. It's something special, Bruin.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
And these teams don't love each other, which is nice
in a time when most teams have a lot of respect.
These two teams have respect, but they do not like
each other.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It's genuine. Mason Miller told us about that the other day.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
If you want to check out that conversation, then you
can go back and search for it in wherever you're
listening to or watching us. Also, if you want more
on the Dodgers, we have Dodgers' territory, but don't forget
about Friar territory. That's our all Padres show, Kyle Glazer,
Heath Fell, Mike Cameron, many other writers join them as well.
They are dialed on the Friar Territory or on the Padres.
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Speaker 2 (17:53):
KP.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
The Mariners added an unstoppable based stealing specialist. This is
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been successful in all ten twenty one for twenty three
overall this year. Despite one of the slowest average sprint
SPADs in baseball. We've seen some guys are slow sneak
(18:14):
a base here and there. I mean, he's becoming one
of the premier threats in baseball this month.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, it makes it a little bit tougher when the
cats out of the bag when you're gonna run, But
stealing bases it obviously helps. When you are fast. It's
gonna mass some mistakes you can make on the base
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You know, there's a lot that goes into it. Your
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catcher knowing who's behind and plate, how good his arm is.
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You know, tendencies of when they throw certain pitches in
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a rhythm that they get into. Josh Naylor has just
figured out how to maximize that.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I'll tell you what else he's figured out.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
He's figured out that first basis co His name is
Eric Young Jr. His father is one of the best
base dealers in the game, Eric Eric Young Jr. While
he was in the league, one of the best base
dealers in the game and playing with E.
Speaker 6 (19:10):
Y Jr.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
One thing about him he's a student and it didn't
surprise me after he was done playing that he's the
first base coach. He used to talk to me and
I used to call him when we didn't play together,
and I say.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Hey, what do you got on this guy?
Speaker 5 (19:20):
And it'd be like, hey, toe in, or when he
takes a deep breath, when his shoulder.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
Goes down, when he looks up to the air, when
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Almost a no hitter for Gavin Williams. Took his no
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Juan Soto took them deep. Gavin Williams is going to
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(21:04):
Queens against the Mets one hundred eleven pitches? Did either
of you play with Steven Vote?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Either of your teammates with I did brief stint.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, you both did, okay, So Cam, did you like
this voter was letting them eat one hundred eleven pitches?
Ninth inning, He's like, go for it, and then you
know what was even more surprising to me, after he
gives up the homer, he still left him in the game.
And then there was the walk, so he's like, okay
at that point he got taken out. But it was
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one hundred and twenty six pitches, most pitches thrown any
game this year, eight and two thirds innings. Couldn't complete
it for the complete game. I had to have someone
come in and obviously clean it up, But I mean,
what a performance eight and two thirds, a hit, four walks,
six strikeouts. Are you surprised not only that he let
him go in the ninth, but then after he gives
up the homer de Soto, that he still let him
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try and finish that thing.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
I wasn't just because I know Voter. Voter understands the game.
He's he's the guy who's had his feet to the dirt. Uh,
And he's one of the brightest guys that I've ever
played with. And I think he just understood the moment.
And it was a moment for for Williams right there
out there dealing in Queen's I mean, young guy, he's showing,
he showed.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Us glimpses, glimpses of this type of stuff.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
But I just just think it's one of those things
where where Voter read the room. He's been in these
in these situations, he's been behind a dish and and.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
He watched the game.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
He understands, Hey, my guy, you know, got beat by
one of the best in the game, and this is
his game. You know, this is his game, you know,
So he tried to let him go as far as
he could. And I love that, And I love that
confidence that it builds in the young guy. And I
love what bote, what Steven continues to show as a
leader man.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
He's a leader of men, and.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
And I love that. I think the Guardians have that
trust to him as well. I don't think it was
any backlash, you know, from the front office. I think
this is one of those things where they trust voter
and uh and and I think you know, this is
a great moment for for him and and and Williams
to continue to grow together as as manager and player.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, I was a bit surprised they allowed him to
go after hitting the home run, but I'm very happy
that they did allow him to go. First of all,
I love Stephen Voe as a friend, as a person,
I'm very happy he's in this position. He's a tremendous
he was a tremendous teammate, he was a tremendous leader.
And there's no surprise he's in a position that he's
in right now. That being said, he also played. He
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was a catcher. He understands the moment, he understands the situation.
He used his eyeballs, he used not only his coaching eyeballs,
But it's catching eyeballs to understand that his picture. Regardless
of the pitch count, he was still dealing. And what
I love even more is he does give up the
home run and instead of walking out there and being
like a great job, you know eight and two thirds,
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you give up this home run. You know, let him
try to get out of it, you know, don't let
him walk off with man. I wouldn't be upset if
I was a pitcher. I'd be disappointed. You know, you
get so close to doing it and then you give
up a home run. You know, that's the last pitch
you throw, is giving up a home run where you
haven't given up a hit the whole game. Give him
a chance to get out of it, and he did,
you know. Unfortunately he had a walk after it, and
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at that point you make a decision that's go out.
But also really classy by the Mets fans too. You know,
I played for the Mets. They can be tough on
you as a home player. They can definitely be tough
on you as a visiting player. But I love to
see when just good fans at baseball understand read the room,
understand the magnitude of the situation. You know, that doesn't
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mean you don't want to win a game. You just
have to be a fan of baseball. And sometimes when
you're in the stands and you're close to witnessing something
as great as a no hitter, you have to just
stand up and show your respects.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
That's right, standing up for Mets fans. And they got their.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Booze in too, because after each inning, especially as the
game was going on, when he would slice and dice,
they were boomed because they had a hitless streak that
was going into this one from the last game. I
think it ended at fourteen innings, so they were feeling
it a little bit up until the ninth. But I
agree with you. I mean, it's to see a fan
base understand the moment and how rare it is. And
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by the way, Cam Cleveland Guardians fans and Indians before that,
fans have not experienced this since Len Barker perfect game
May fifteenth, nineteen eighty one is the last time that
they've had a no hitter. It's the longest act of
no hitter drought in baseball.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Yeah, guys get paid to not get out. Scott do that, man,
That's why you know, when you see these feats, there
are special moments, man, and I think that's why we
have to celebrate them like we do in our game,
because we know how difficult it is to go through
a lineup that many times, and you're always going to have.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
A little bit of luck on your side as well.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
But yeah, you know, but I again, guys like Williams,
you know, I don't think they're far from getting one,
you know, in there in near future.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yeah, why does it always feel like it's a home
run too? Can it just be like a you know,
blue it's like one of the other. It's either a
home run or like a weekly hit ball, And you're
like holding your breath, like if I'm a picture and
I'm gonna give up a hit, can it just be
like a you know, a clean base hit up the middle,
you know, no drama, but also you still have a
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shutout in order. You know, that's got to suck a
little bit for a picture. You go almost the distance,
you don't give up a hit, and then the one
hit you give up leads to a run. But you know,
like you said, if it was if it was something
where you just have to be a really good picture,
we would see it all the time because we have
amazing pictures. We have pictures with their stuff is so good.
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You know, Paul Skeins would do it every day if
it was something that happened all the time, if it
was easy to do.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
There is an.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Element of luck involved with it. And you know Cleveland
needs one. They need one. You know they had guys
like Corey Klueber who wasn't able to do it, so
you know, hopefully they get one here soon.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Do you think that Stephen Bote gets any pushback from
the front office in the scenario like that, or even afterward,
because you know he mentioned how you didn't even talk
to Evan Williams, didn't Carl Willis anyone else. He's like, hey,
look Crisp, I was feeling it. I'm latting him eat.
But I know this for a fact, cam most front
offices would give crap to their manager and be like,
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absolutely not. Not one hundred and twenty six pitches. There
are a ton of young pitchers that they would go
nuts about. I guess Gavin Williams is more mid career
ish at this point, but still, do you think that
there's a conversation there because I know many other teams
would be a problem.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I'm sure it was a conversation, you know, but also
too Scotty and I don't know where the bullpen was
on usage.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I don't know how banged up they might have been.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
But I do feel like, like you said, Gavin Willims
is so much somewhat early in his career, and he's
also had he also has a frame, right, I also
look at certain guys too. He has a frame that
looks like he can with stay in that type of
workload also, so I look at things like that.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
But I'm sure it was definitely a conversation.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
But I also think too when you look ahead their schedule,
I think they have some time off coming up, so
I think this might be a chance where he might
get an extra days of rest as well.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
So he might have been like, hey, he's dealings, he's doing.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
His thing, go ahead and let him just unload the
tank and he's gonna have extra day arrest, so he'll
be fine. So I'm sure I'm sure their conversations had
between manager and front office.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
For sure, when the guy goes out and he gives
you this type.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Of workload, that's true.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Extra off day, right, extra day rest for him then
six to fifty.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
I mean, he's a monster dude like that type of body. Listen.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
I'm sure his lifetime, I'm sure that dude was throwing
all types one hundred pitched games coming through the miners
and or excuse me, the youth.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Ranks in high school, in college.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
I'm sure he was definitely a guy who, you know,
he's thrown a lot.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Of pitches before, he has that type of makeup.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, for my sanity and me being able to get
good sleep tonight, I really hope there wasn't a conversation
when you hire a guy to be your manager like
Steven Vogue, who's played the game, played the game at
a high level, was an All Star, was a catcher, understands,
you know, he made a living catching understanding pictures, seeing
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their stuff. I would really hope there's not a conversation
except for them coming down and maybe talking about how
close he was to throwing a no hitter. But I
really hope for my sanity that there wasn't any sort
of you know, pushback on his decision.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
And KP, Hey, Scotty, KP probably knows this. KP knows this.
One thing about Stephen Vague is he cares about his guys, right,
first off, he cared about his teammates when he when
he was a player, so I know as a manager,
one thing he's not gonna do is run a guy
out there to try to get a win or just
for stats, like he's he like like you know, like
Superman said, he's reading the room, he's using his eyeballs.
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And the last thing he's gonna do is put somebody
in danger.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
So you that's where were through, Stephen Vote.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
He's not gonna He's not gonna put somebody out there
and risk of getting injury just to get a win,
or say, hey, I left him out there for one
hundred and forty pitches and he threw a no hitter.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Like he's readers season where they're at in their season
right now. They are playing to win. They need to
win every game. This was Yes, there was a moment
where he could have made history. He could have thrown
a no hitter right there is as important that is
to Steven Vote and to the organization. They were playing
to win. If they felt like he wasn't the best
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person to get the last three outs, they would have
put someone else in that game. You know this was
a team where, you know, everything they went through over
the last couple of weeks, losing a couple of players,
you know, the gambling situation. You know, this is a
team that we started to count out, that we felt like,
you know, are they gonna sell, They're gonna sell? Are
they gonna sell? And they decided not to really sell.
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And this is a team you know, much like you know,
much like I mentioned, like the Brewers of recently, the
Astros of recently, this is just a team that figures
it out. You know, you count them out and they
figure out ways to just stay relevant. And I think
they're only two or a game back in the last
wildcard spot.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Yeah yeah, it went Jackson somewhere laughing right now, going,
I can't believe it they're even having this conversation.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
That's true, that's true. Well let me find that for
you real quick. We've got a.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Game and a half separation between the Yankees and the Guardians.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
The Rangers are.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Also again six seven games in a row, like they're
right back in this. So, I mean, it's easy to
leave a guy out there and throw that many pitches,
you know, when you're not trying to go to the postseason.
You know when you are playing for you know, statistics,
you're playing for individual accomplishments. But Stephen Boats got hired
to win. He wants to win, so he left the
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best guy out there who he felt like can get
the last three outs.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, they've had the best record in the American League
in the second half of the season so far.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Believe it's fourteen and six.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Pretty damn good for a team that did not buy
at the trade deadline.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
They sold.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I mean, Shane Bieber hasn't pitched for them, but they
sold technically sellers at the trade deadline.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Just like the Tigers were last year and what happened
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Speaker 4 (32:59):
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Speaker 2 (33:02):
KP.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
What's wrong with the Mats? They're two and eight in
their last ten and it's late in the season. Can't
go through this for too long. For a little bit,
it's okay, but for too long, gotta be careful and
they just you know, they're not playing well against the
Guardians and the Giants in the past week.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I don't think anything's wrong. I think it's baseball. I mean,
bad teams be good teams, good teams be bad teams.
Everyone kind of goes through it. It's obviously very magnified
at the beginning of the year, and now we're getting
towards the end of the year and it starts to
become an issue, but I believe in that team.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah, I'm with KP.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
I think the offenses is a little cold right now,
but I think I think they're gonna be fine.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I think they played a really quality rand of baseball.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
I think they have some very motivate, motivated guys in
the lineup. Pete Alonzo has done everything, in my eyes,
under the sun to.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Just prove how special he is, you know, to that organization.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Of course, I still have my questions about the starting rotation,
but I do believe in this lineup. That's one thing
I believe in is this lineup in this bullpen, and
I think the line of bull figured out. They're just
going through a little tough spell right now, but they're
in a good spot and I think guys are going
to figure out when they need to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, that's good looking bullpen.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
And again, you know this is the thing. They have
guys that care right. And KP knows he was in
that clubhouse as well. You have leaders like Frankie Lindor,
You you have guys like Pete, you have guys like
Cedric Mullins. They have guys that care right, and they're
gonna be talking about, Hey, what do you see?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
What do you feel? They're going to bounce ideas off
each other and they're going to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Hot corner time.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Are you letting your future stars or long term franchise
players truly cook. It's very relevant right now when Lawrence
Butler is now sitting for a third consecutive game against
the left handed pitcher, and obviously it could be something
going on behind the scenes where you know, sometimes a
guy is feeling something, little hurt, whatever, and you just
don't get it. But if that's not the case, Cam,
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I checked the standings, The A's aren't in it this year.
I checked the contract, the A's are living with law
long term and they love him. And I checked the
stats from last year. He was destroying left handed pitching.
It's been more of a down season for him this year.
But is this the right move to start platuning him
to this extent when you want him to thrive against
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lefties in right he's going forward?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Well, I think you can think about it a few
different ways. Right when you have a young guy like
law who is locked in and you just said it,
they're not going anywhere, and he hasn't hit lefties like
he did last season. And as a young player, you
know you're going to go through these ups and downs,
you know, early in your career.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
And I think this could just be.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
A moment where Kays is just saying, hey, man, we're
going to give you a couple of reset days right
also too, you know Koch's job and Kass has done
a really good job of setting his young guys up
for success. And we we knew, we know law is
a part of the long term plan. And I think
this could just be as simple as Cots who I
you know, he was my veteran when I was in
San Diego. He was a guy who told me to hey,
when they offered you, when they offer you a deal
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that you never expected or more money than you've ever seen.
Mike did get out of to sign and I'm glad
I did. It was the best thing I did in
my career. So Cott's he One thing I know about
Mark Cott say he cares about his guys. And I
think this just may be, if anything, just some time
for law Dog to clear his head and just kind
of figure some things out and in the cages before
he gets them back in there. But I'm if I
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had to guess he'll be right back in there facing
lefties before you know it.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Okay, I mean, we'll have to see. We'll have to
see if it's a like you said, is it a reset,
is it a couple of days, is it a thing,
or is it something that they're permanently gonna do. But
you know, I'm a big believer, and I understand how
difficult baseball is, you know. I know, we talked about
a guy like Mooie Betts, first ballot Hall of Famer,
one of the best players of our generation, maybe one
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of the best players I've ever been around. Personally, He's
struggling this year. Baseball doesn't care who you are, how
much money you're making. It is hard to be great
year in and year out when you were in a
position where a team is throwing money at you. That
is more money than you've ever dreamed of making and
is gonna make your life. You're gonna be set for life,
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and your kids are gonna be set for life. It's
hard to say no to that. It really really is,
you know. And I wanted to touch a little bit
on you know, some of the things I saw yesterday,
and we're talking about the what ifs. I'm not a
big believer in what ifs in this game because it's
easy in a vacuum to say, oh, yeah, if he
doesn't take the deal, he's gonna make X amount and
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our year one and year two and year three and
he can sign for five or six hundred million dollars. Yeah,
that's great if everything works out. But what if it doesn't.
We never really talk about the players where it doesn't
work out, where they signed deals. But now they're triple
A and they're making five six million dollars a year.
You think they're enjoying themselves a little bit more playing
in you know, Syracuse or Buffalo or wherever they're at.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah, yesterday we talked about it. The Roman Anthony extension.
I mean, for as good as he is, I'm with UKP.
I mean everyone's got a number. At some point. You
got to look at the number like this is crazy
good money. He's not locked up until he's thirty six
years old. He will hit the free agent market again.
You're just eating up the entire twenties for him, And hey,
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how do you think I will present the counterpoint? Even
though I don't think Roman Anthony's going to be like this.
Ronald Acuna Junior has been hurt a good amount, but
when he's on the field, I mean, he's a superstar.
Do you think he feels okay with the fact that
he signed an eight year, one hundred million dollar contract
way back and he could have been a free agent
a while ago. Now, I know his knee has gotten
shredded up, but if he hit free agency, you know,
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the season in between when he got hurt, he could
have gotten hundreds of millions of dollars. So do you
think he okay with what he did? Because he at
least got the security. And again we're talking about this
isn't like, oh, he signed for a million bucks one
hundred million dollars he's.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Gonna I mean, I was his teammate two years ago
and he's driving some pretty nice cars to the field.
He looked, and he comes to the field with a
really big smile on his face and he seems to
be very happy. Yeah, it's easy to talk about the
what if, But what if he didn't sign that hundred
million dollar deal and he was just playing it out
and trying to get that big contract and then he
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hurts the knee and then he hurts the knee again,
are we talking about? You know, is he the same
type of players? He can get the same amount of money,
you know, And it's it's also easy we never talk
about when a player does sign up, you know, long
term for you know, one hundred million dollars, Well maybe
they should have got four hundred. You know, it's a
little bit easier going to bed at night going over
four oh for eight, like the paycheck's still coming in.
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As a player that went year to year, there's a
lot of stress on that. People don't understand that. And granted,
I'm sitting in a position, you know, I made good
money in my career, but there's times I wish that
I would have been offered you know, maybe if I
could have been offered the same amount of money that
I made in my career in year one, and I
could have just been able to kind of take a
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deep breath and just understand, I'm going to be in
one place for a long time. The paychecks coming in.
I don't have to worry about the what if down
the road? Could would I have been a better player?
I don't know, you know, that's that's the tough question
with something like this.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
But this, but this is, this is how you have
to look at it for me, because before we talked
about it prior to and Scott and I love, I
love that you brought up Ronald le'cullier, right, and when
you brought bring up rondal cull you.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
This is what I did. I made a list. Check
this out.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
Julio Rodriguez fourteen year, two hundred and ten million up
to four hundred and seventy million. He has not played
like a four hundred million dollar player. Michael Harris signs
an eight year, seventy two million dollar deal. The defense
is still elite. He has not replicated that offense. Attalie
Rushman eight years.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
One thirteen. He has not played like that type of catcher.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Wait now, Adley hasn't signed. Poled up?
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Oh excuse Adlie had Adlie didn't sign.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
You were cooking, but then I had to stop you on.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
But Adlie didn't sign, So okay, hey skip Adleie. Luis
Roberts Junior, right, hasn't hasn't played up to that contract.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
He's good for life.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Eloy Jmenez Key, Brian Hayes, Hey, Scott Kingery, you know
what I'm saying, Andres Jimenez. These are guys who have
not performed like they you know, did when they got
offered those deals, you know, So for me, this is
why I think it's important. Like you know, like KP said,
you know, they're gonna be the counions, but you're also
gonna have a listful of these guys also who you know,
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it was good that they signed these deals when you
look at the way that they're playing, because they might
not get offers ever again.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I mean, even just this year, we talk about Christian Campbell.
You know, he got off to the best start I'd
ever seen, and I watched him on Opening Day and
I was like, I've never really even you know. I
started to hear about him a little bit on TV
and spring training, and I was fortunate that I got
to watch him play an opening day and I was like, Wow,
this guy is amazing. And then honestly, in the first
week he signs this deal. You know where he's at
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right now.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
In the bush?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yes, he's yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
We mentioned it, and there was and there was, and
there was these same talks about why did he take
the sixty million? Was sixty million? I don't want to misspeak.
I know it, we're somewhere between yeah, sixty million. It's like, oh,
we're judging a guy off of you know, one week
in the in the Big League, for judging off one week. Oh,
this guy he's gonna make three hundred million is in
his career? Why is he going to take the sixty million?
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The guy's playing in Triple A right now. Base is
hard ball.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
Scott Kanary, Literally, how do you think Scott Kyry feels that,
dude is that's probably the best thing that guy did.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I know how he feels rich. He feels rich.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
And the thing is exactly that there is risk on
both side.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Teams teams say this.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Too, but most of the time they get the surplus
value on the back end, so I think it levels out.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I think it's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
And like you said, the comfort for the player can
often lead to better performance and guys just thinking about
the team and not themselves and not their next situation
to make sure that they were still there.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Right. You watch Joo Rodriguez, That's exactly how he plays.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
Huo Rodriguez played and again he's having these moments, but
he literally plays like I'm just playing for the team,
even when I'm struggling.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
He's smile like he's a he's a team guy.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
But you can't tell me that security does not help, right,
He's like ay, at end of the day, like you
know what, I'm not playing like this money that I'm offering.
So I'm gonna be the best teammate in the freaking world.
And I'm sure that's who he is anyway. But it
helps you out a whole bunch. KP is exactly right
about that.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Actually, all of this plays into the conversation we were just having.
So The Philly Show was talking about Max Kepler and
they said, if he doesn't start producing, he could be
the odd man out once Harrison Vader is taken over
in center field. Bader is not a platoon guy, they said.
At some point, you're gonna have to cut bait. Kepler
signed a one year contract for I think ten million
bucks in the offseason. Cam, did you mention Eloy Jimenez
or he'said Louis Robert when you were talking about the extension, guys,
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where did you say both?
Speaker 4 (44:04):
I said both?
Speaker 2 (44:05):
You said both?
Speaker 4 (44:05):
Both? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
I mean Olloy, dude.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
I'm looking back at my notes from when Alloy signed
six years forty three million spring training twenty nineteen crushed
the record for a minor leaguer with no MLB time.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yeah, And people were like, this guy's going to be
the next fifty Homer Bay in the sport. How could
he just take forty three million dollars.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
It's like, I don't even think he's playing ball right now,
and if he is, it's not in the majors.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Yeah, I mean, I'm and seriously, and again I messed
up on add Addlie had Adlie hadn't signed. But you
look at those deals and I remember that too. Skuy
were like, what is this guy doing? I mean, this
guy's the next coming of who?
Speaker 4 (44:43):
I mean? It was like, what is going on?
Speaker 5 (44:45):
But the game is so hard and it's so unpredictable
and KP knows some days you wake up on the
baseball field. And I had years where I literally felt
like I forgot how to play the game, like like
literally you play since you were three years old. And
I had seasons where I literally have cried in the car. Man,
I'm like, what is going on right now?
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Like?
Speaker 4 (45:02):
Who am I? Right?
Speaker 5 (45:03):
I told you you feel like the Monks star sat
Z after power from you. So again to have that
type of you know, incentive to fall back on.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
Man, it feels good. Listened.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
When I signed my Del Sainte Ago and I had
those days, it helped me sleep a lot better thinking
about some of the security man like whew, man, I'm
you know what, Yeah, did I think I was one
hundred million dollars?
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Yeah? Yeah I did. Did I play that way? No?
Speaker 5 (45:25):
I didn't end up playing that way, clearly, but that
little bit of security. Man, when I tell you, I'm
so grateful for Mark Kotte telling me, hey, man, listen,
I signed the one deal earlier in my year. It
was like fifty two million. I signed it. It was
the It changed my family's life ever and it was
never off another contract, whatever the story was, and it
was the best thing I ever did you.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Know it was the best thing? M Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
I mean Max Kuppler actually signed one of those in
twenty nineteen as well. Five years, thirty five million.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
We thought he was gonna be something. Yeah, and Max
has been good. You know, he's had it, yeah, glimpses
and he's a spest. But now on you keep.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Bringing the name Attlee Russian up. You know the way
he's playing right now, You don't think I'm guessing you go.
I'm guessing he had a deal probably similar to what you.
Speaker 4 (46:15):
You know said.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Maybe that's where you got the number from. If you
think any you're thinking, he wish you would have signed
something like that.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Now, man, exactly, all right, KP, We're gonna do two things.
We're gonna talk Blue Jays now for two minutes. Then
we're gonna talk about him in a different realm coming
up in the next segment.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
So first off, they had a little time, you know,
they were doing me. They were a little man over
the past week.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
And then they ran into the Rockies, which is just
the best medicine when you run into what could end
up being the worst team.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Of all time by a record.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
So they won fifteen to one, then ten to four,
and then they finished up the series trailing one nothing
and scoring twenty in a row to win twenty to one.
So it was a nice series winning for the Blue Jays.
Most hits in a three game series and one hundred
and twenty five years the Blue Jays had sixty three
hits in their sweep against Colorado. Yes, that's the most
in a three game set since nineteen hundred. Everybody's stats
(47:08):
went off. Is that one of those kp when you're
in the dugout and you're like, oh, we're getting paid
in this series. Stats are gonna fly, staffs are gonna pump. Oh,
you're slug percentage down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Welcome.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
Yeah. I mean, obviously going into Colorado is you always
have that thought in your head. It's like, Okay, it's
time for me to boost the stats a little bit.
It also helps that Colorado is not very good right now.
But I have to say, I mean, they're major league players.
You know, even the worst major league team with the
worst major league players on it, there's still major league
baseball players. They're better than everyone else in the world.
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They're there for a reason. But what Toronto was able
to do and just go in there and handle business,
they made it look easy, and it's not that easy
because the guy on the mound, he's fighting for his life,
he's trying to make money, he's trying to stay in
the big leagues. He's not just grooving fastballs over the
plane and saying, hey, you guys, scores mini runs you want? So,
you know, obviously a great time for the Blue Jays
(48:03):
to go in there. Every single person in that lineup
has extreme confidence right now, and I think they're They're
about to go into a series and I'm actually gonna
go do the pre and post game for the Toronto
Blue Jays in Canada. I'm flying out tomorrow and they
have a series with the Dodgers and this is gonna
be a heavyweight matchup. You know, the Dodgers are the Dodgers.
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The Dodgers are always going to get everyone's best and
Toronto is playing their best right now, not only because
they're really good, but they just got off of a
series where everyone is feeling good. The worst thing that
happened to the Blue Jays is them having an off
day to day.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Let's slap and say congrats early to Adam Jones, who's
going to be honored this Saturday.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Our buddy. We got to get him back on to
talk about this post.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
But he's going to be honored over in Baltimore, Camden
Yards into the Orioles Hall of Fame. He will be
inducted this Saturday. They freaking love him out there, and
Cam that's our boy too, and he's uh, I don't
you know. He's kind of working within the team a
little bit now too. So he's been vocal about trying
to get the team back on track for next year.
(49:20):
This is, you know, therapeutic in terms of what the
Orioles fans need right now. It's just the Adam Jones
smile after they just traded away half their team and
they're not going to be a playoff team.
Speaker 5 (49:32):
Yeah, this is great from Adam Man. Adam was a
guy that I looked up to throughout my career. Man,
He's always played the game the right way. I was
always willing to pull a young guy to the side
and give him a piece of advice.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
I mean to this day, if I need something.
Speaker 5 (49:44):
I can call him. So congrats to Adam Man. Will
deserved and and like you said, a bright spot for
the Orioles this year and a much needed bright spot.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Yeah, KPM true. I was up early career right with
the Orioles with that.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
I was one of those young guys that was one
of those young guys I was competing against him, We
were in competition with each other, but he was never afraid.
I went up to him maybe my second year, third year,
and I basically just told him like, how are you
still doing it at such a high level?
Speaker 4 (50:13):
You know?
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Center field is such a physically demanding position. How are
you still doing it at such a high level? You know,
six seven, eight years in the league. You know, he
was much older than me at that time, and he
just gave me some really good advice, and I always
appreciated it. I think my favorite thing about Adam Jones
was what we touched on his smile. He just played
the game with so much joy and so much fun,
and I always was envious of the way he could
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just play so relaxed and have so much fun playing it.
I was always a very serious guy because baseball was
so hard for me that I didn't have time to smile.
I had to focus twenty four to seven when I
was in a baseball field, and loved that he just
always smiled. He could chew a bubble gum and rob
a home run. Congrats. Adam Jones just one of the
players of all time.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
That's cool. You know.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Now, he travels a lot, and sometimes he'll pop up
in a city and he'll just be like on Twitter,
anyone upon a play golf today, and then he'll literally
DM some of the people and be like cool, see
at the course at whatever time. So that's Adam for
you always having a good time, enjoying life. You'll see
him a lot of MLB events. But again, props Adam Jones.
(51:16):
You know part of us, especially when we first started
popping up on shows all the time. So we're back
tomorrow and Cavin Williams will join us on tomorrow show.
Oh also, Mike trout Happy birthday today.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
Yeah, happy, happy birthday.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
How old is Trouty? Do we know?
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Probably not as old as we think. It's crazy. It's
like he's been in the league so long. I mean,
I want to say like happy thirty first, thirty third,
thirty thirty.
Speaker 4 (51:47):
Four, thirty fourth.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
No, we're so mad because he's he's been playing for
so long. And here I am. I'm thirty six, I'm
sitting at home and he's playing for fifteen years and
he's my goats.
Speaker 4 (52:00):
He's one of my goats. He's one of the goats.
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Look at this screw today. We got Kevin Pilar, Cam Mayben.
My ears already falling off.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Plar.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
You might be looking like you're from the nineteen nineties
a little bit today, but that's okay. Throwback quality. Yeah,
you're a throwback today. So if anyone's looking at him like,
hey it he looks a little bit like my favorite
hitcom in nineteen ninety four, that's okay, that's okay. It's
part of the retro vibes today.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
How you been, man, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm good. I just got back in town. You know,
sorry about the bat internet connection. They cut my internet
line at the street and they're supposed to be fixing
it today. So I'm running a little hotspot right now.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
They're okay, we hear you. Good, okay. And Cam's been
there before, looking nice and crisp today.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Cam, Oh yeah, I'm locked in.
Speaker 5 (00:46):
I had a nice little conference call at Team Mobiles
on him. I had to say, hey, foul Territory doesn't
stop just because you guys are not doing your job.
And I also pay my bill early, you know. Mike
Mark said, So I'm cooking right now, man. I checked
my I did my speed test. I'm cooking right now,
so let's keep it going.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Paying your bills always helps, it never hurt, always.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Helps, never never hurts. The fame on time too.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Before we start, I do want to shout out a
special moment coming up this weekend. Jen Powal is going
to be the first female umpire to a regular season game.
We've got the Braves and the Marlins. It's on Saturday.
It's really cool. So there's been moments where we've had
a female umpire in a spring training game and other
scenarios in the minor leagues, but this one will be
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in a regular season game. Long overdue. She's forty eight
years old, she's been through the rank, she was a
former college softball player and then has spent a lot
of time as an ump cam.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
This is cool, This is this is awesome.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
I saw this last night as I was watching the
Padres take on the Diamondbacks, and I thought, you know,
like you say, Scott, long overdue. When you look at
some of the other sports in the NBA, the NFL soccer,
you look around the league and you have women that
have already, you know, taken this step.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
So this is this is great.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Shout out to her for her love of the game
or passion, her consistency, and I'm excited to watch man.
I know this will be a big moment for emilb
and and for her and her family as well.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
KP what he got, Yeah, I much like he said,
long overdue, But I'm I'm also very happy that it
wasn't given to her, that it was earned. I'm a
big believer in you know, no matter what you're doing,
you got to go out and earn it. And obviously,
forty eight years old, she's paid her dues, She's worked
herself up from you know, probably instructional league all the
way up through Triple A and now getting a chance
(02:34):
to call a game behind and play It's really cool.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Did either of you ever play a minor league game
where there was a female umpire, because I know there
are some in the minor leagues.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
In training, go.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Ahead, Yeah, I was gonna say I did not. I
did not. I don't. I don't remember it at all.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
I don't remember spring training or even my last year
in Triple A. I don't remember it at all. So
I'm excited about this is I think this is awesome
for the game.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, I had seen a couple in spring training this year,
not behind home plate, they were doing the bases. But
once again, yeah, obviously it's important to make a big
deal about it, but once again, I'm a big believer
in earning it. They've earned it and we should celebrate it.
But after today, you got to treat her like every
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other umpire.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That's right, that's right, that's what she wants. So after
she played college ball, she.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Was umpiring in NCAA softball from twenty ten to twenty sixteen,
MLB invited her to an umpire training academy, and then
because she had had a try out in August of
twenty fifteen, just like you said, KP gets into rookie
ball in twenty sixteen, moves up the rank, gets to
Triple A in twenty twenty three, and then last year
became the first female I'M to work a spring training
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game since Reat Cortesio in two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
That was a big gap there.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And then later in the twenty season, she was named
a crew chief, eventually to the call up list for
the major league level, and that's why we're at this
point now where she gets that call up for Saturday's game.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
So cool.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
We'll keep an eye on it on the weekend. Let's
charge charge about all those San Diego Padres are coming
in hot cam, your former team making it a little
two game deficit in the National League West with plenty
of time and some games against the Dodgers still to go.
But they had a nice comeback win yesterday. And you
(04:29):
know what helps trade editions like Ryan o'hearen hitting a
home run in the ninth inning off a bad bullpen,
and what the Diamondbacks have and a nasty bullpen and
what the Padres have, so they get another run in
extras and then they win it.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I was sitting back watching that game, two to one
going into that last inning, and sure enough, there you go,
hanging slider. Ron O'Hearn comes through big, and you know,
I'm not mistaken. That was his first homer against the
lefty right. So I just like all the things that
are going on right now, the synergy, the chemistry, that's
togetherness that the Padres are playing with, and and and Scotty.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
You know, my favorite thing about the.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Padres is we talked about it with the Brewers. They
know how to manufacture runs.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
You see a Jose Glacias, I mean.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Throwing out singles, bogie starting to swing it. Well, you know,
he's getting hot. I love the Freddy Forermen acquisition. Right,
that's the one that's that nobody's gonna talk about. Freddy
Verman is gonna be the guy that somewhere down the
stretch when you need a big win, you need to
get a guy over.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
He's gonna lay down a bunch.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
He's gonna do a baseball play type of thing that's
gonna propel the Padres. So I just love all the
moves and right, you know, hughe Ron and her to
come up. But I think this is just bigger than
just one or two pieces. I mean they they covered
so many holes across the board, depth, arms, chemistry, the
right type of characters.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
This was fun to watch.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
They've even got the mister Clutch from last year, Jose Glacias,
who came through in extras too. I mean, he was
steadying signed back with the Mets. Mets didn't want him
and he's like, my dream is to be in the
NLCS this year and have a big clutch knock against
the mass.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Every off season.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
I'm sorry kp On much you go, but just think
about this every offseason. Here we are talking about Jose
Iglacias signing.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
Minor league deals. What are we doing here?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
We are every year talking about oh La Luisa Rise
and his defense, and he doesn't hit the homers and
he's gonna win like his third or four three batting
titles in the row.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Like, let's start to.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
Celebrate the baseball players, right, the guys who played the
game and make winning plays.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
And I'm tired of hearing about what these guys don't
do well.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
They continue to be clutch, and the Padres and aj Peeler,
they very much value these guys.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah, I was gonna say good for Ryan O'Hearn. You know,
when you get traded mid midseason, you're kind of just
looking for that moment where you feel like you belong
on your new team. There's a lot of pressure getting
traded over a team, especially a team like the Padres
that have goals of winning a World Series. And for
him to step up first home run against the left
handed picture right there, And I don't really I didn't
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really get a chance to see the game. I don't
know what the bench looked like that in that situation.
You know, probably wasn't getting a lot of chances against
left handers in Baltimore, and that's just something that just
gives him confidence where the Padres are like, it's the
ninth inning, you're our guy, we brought you over here
for this reason. For him to hit a big home
run whether like that, it's cool to see. And you know,
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we talked about the Dodgers early in the season, a
team where you look at their roster and it's just
star after star after star after star, and the Padres
are short quickly shortening that gap. You could talk about
the Padres lineup and it's star after star after star,
and they also have those glue guys you talked about
the Jose Iglesias. I know what it's like to be undervalued, underappreciated.
(07:45):
Some of the most important things you do don't show
up on a stat sheet. It's hard to quantify clutch,
it's hard to quantify clubhouse chemistry and culture, and you know,
just being a good teammate. It's gonna be an interesting
race down the stretch.
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from O, her new addition to the team, and usually
a really good interview we've had him on Nice and
(09:11):
Simple Cam. He goes, this is the deepest lineup I've
ever been a part of. Now, remember he was on
the Ools this year. He's been on the Orioles I
think at least last year, if not the year before
as well. So some Orioles teams that could bang a
little bit. But he he did not hesitate. He was
very clear, this is the team, not the one I
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was on.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
Yeah, And then when I look at the word deep,
you know, I said it the other day, Scotty.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
The details matter.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
And when I talk about deep, they don't just wait
around for the homer, right, They really stretch out a rotation,
They really stretch out a bullpen. They have team at bats, right,
You're seeing guys fighting when they get to two strikes,
you know, turning the two count into a seven, eight, nine,
ten pitch at bat. Like those are the type of
you know, quality of at bats that make that depth
really serious. Instead of just waiting for the home or
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waiting for that guy to hit a home run or
do something big, they have a way to may affect
the runs and just really drain the life out.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Of a rotation and a bullpen, as you saw last night.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
So I think that's that's what he means when he
talks about death as well as KP talking about the
you know, the stars in that line up, they're really
starting to play just like they are stars.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Do old teammates care when someone says that, you know,
he was on the twenty three and twenty four to
Oer's that made the playoffs, KP or you're like, hey,
good for him, I'm happy for him.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, yeah, I mean when you get traded or when
you play on a new team, you got to be
all in. And I'd like to see that as he's
just being all in. This is not like he's not
throwing shade. It's easy for us to sit here. Or
if I'm an Orioles fan, you know, how dare he
say that? Like what else is a player supposed to do?
He gets traded to a new place, a microphone gets
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stuck in his face, He's coming off this super emotional
home run, he finally feels like he belongs. He probably
get asked a question, is this a deepest lineup you've
ever been a part of? And he probably says, yeah,
this is the deepest lineup I've ever been a part of.
And that's not throwing shade at the team he was
previously on. That's just him showing his commitment to his
new team, wanting to be part of the boys.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Hey, one more component for you, cam Michael King, who
can pitch like a number one if he's feeling good,
scheduled for Saturday, and they're playing the Red Sox on Saturday,
so he should be back for the stretch rud and
he's feeling all right.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Yeah, and right now, I'm sure he's in a place
where they've taken their time.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
He's feeling good, he's feeling healthy. And this is like
a late trade line, uh, you know, acquisition. And you
talk about Michael King.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
So we talk about Mason Miller coming in shutting the
door last night. We know how dominant the bullpen is being,
and then you add this guy back to the rotation.
It just, you know, I think it bowls, you know,
well for the Padres. And I'm you know, I'll say
it right now, I think they will end up winning
this division because more than anything, they're healthy right now.
But I love the chemistry that they're playing with. Like
KP said, there's no Statford character, chemistry and camaraderie.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
So and this is the most together I've seen them in.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
The last two years. I talked about it last year.
Mike shild coming in really has brought the boys together.
And I really believe teams go how their manager goes.
And he's the type of guy you show up every
day and you're excited to come to the ballpark and
play for and you see them these guys.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Okay, pop quiz At the finish line here, I want
you guys to tell me which team you like better
for the regular season, because I think they're both playoff teams,
and which team you like better in October? You can
have different answers here. Which team do you think wins
the National League West? And do you think is better
for a regular season run? Now, remember you tighten things
up in the playoffs. You don't have to worry about
(12:40):
your number five start or stuff like that. Right, So,
I think there's a big difference. I've done that sometimes,
Like last year we're talking about the Phillies and the Mets.
I'm like, Phillies I like better in the regular season,
Mets I like better than the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
That's how that plays out.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
So with the Dodgers and the padres KP, what do
you like regular season?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
What do you like October?
Speaker 3 (12:58):
This might shock some people here, but I think I
like the Padres better in the regular season because I
do think it means more to them to win a
division than it does to the Dodgers. And in a
playoff series where we're standing right now, the way both
teams are playing, I think I would have to take
the Padres too. And I just look at how deep
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their bullpen is. It's a healthy bullpen. And when the Dodgers'
bullpen is healthy, it can be as good as the
Padres bullpen. But I think about the bullpen of the
Padres and how good it is and how deep it is,
and they have five legitimate closures on the back end.
You can shorten the game in a postseason series.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, that's true. Cam. Do you feel the same way.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Hey, my boy said it, Superman said it. I think
it's that simple. I mean, I'm looking at it all
in totality. I'm looking at even right now, from beginning
to end, what Mookie Betts has went through.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Right That's one of their key pieces, that's one of
the cornerstones.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I just think sometimes you have seasons, like you know,
Mookie maybe have, not saying he won't get it together,
but just things just feel right for the Padres. And
then KP said it, when you talk about being able
to shorten game, shorten the game and make it a
five inning game, the Padres have just that. I mean,
if somebody gets in trouble at the bullpen, they can
go to another guy, they can go to another guy.
They don't have to to wish and hope that hey,
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this guy figures it out a pit a batter or
two from now. And I just think that that lineup
I like right now. I love the pieces that they added. Defensively,
I think they're better. I think the starting rotation is
better right now. I don't know how healthy those guys
will be. And then too, just just coming coming into
the season on the back end, thinking that these guys
are gonna dominate, you know, the snails of the world
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and some of the other guys that they'll have coming back. Yeah,
I'm leaning towards the Padres on both ends for sure.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
I'm leaning towards the Padres as well.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I think they've got five guys that can close out games,
and the Dodgers have a really strong bullpen too. I
just haven't seen something talent wise like what the Padres
are bringing to the table with their bullpen, even if
the Dodgers have a little edge I think on offense.
The other thing I look at is how does Michael
King look over the next weekend or a month and
a half, Because if he looks like the Michael King
that we used to see a year and a half,
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then KP. I mean that's a number one starter and
he was dominant from what I remember in the playoffs
last year.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, I mean health is the big thing. I mean,
we talked about the Padres bullpen. They're healthy right now.
If you get the Dodgers' bullpen healthy, which is a
big if you know, you got Kirby Eate's out, you
got Tanner, Scott out, Blake Training's coming back. I mean
I take those three in the back end of a
bullpen any day of the week. But the question is
are they going to be healthy? Are they going to
be able to kind of get into mid season form?
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You know, we're almost entering September here, you know, we're
getting close to the end of the season. Are they
gonna have enough time to you know, get ready and
get back into you know, closing shape. I Mean that's
the question that I need to needs to be answered
to me.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yeah, and listen not to mention.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
At the end of the day, the Padres just have
the not only do they have a bullpen, they have
the depth like KPC. I mean they have you named five,
but they had I mean nobody talking about more Home.
I mean he was an All Star, right like that
dude can come in and get left these alrighty's out.
There's so many places you can go to. I just
I just think, I mean, you know what, I've said
it before. We very rarely, we haven't had a back
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to back World Cities champion, So it just it feels
like the Padres time right now, I think, And I
don't think they're afraid anymore, right, I know that the
Dodgers have the history behind them, the winning pedigree, but
the I think the Padres they just when you watch
them play, you see something different. You talked about the
KP talking talked about it last night. I was watching
the game when O'Hearn hit that homer. Manny Machado, you
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know he's unk now in the locker room. Is like,
not only is he coming outside, he's climbing over the
railing right like he could have went to the stab.
But like dudes are excited and hype and playing for
each other. It looks like your at bat means just
as much to me as it means to you. And
when you have that going, man, when you when you
have guys showing up and really rooting for each other,
if it starts to create something special, and you add,
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like Mason Miller, these are clubhouse guys. These aren't just
talented guys, their character guys. And you just continue to
add character with the talent you're spelling. You're spelling, you
know something special. It's something special, Bruin.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
And these teams don't love each other, which is nice
in a time when most teams have a lot of respect.
These two teams have respect, but they do not like
each other.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It's genuine. Mason Miller told us about that the other day.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
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The Mariners added an unstoppable based stealing specialist. This is
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been successful in all ten twenty one for twenty three
overall this year. Despite one of the slowest average sprint
SPADs in baseball. We've seen some guys are slow sneak
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a base here and there. I mean, he's becoming one
of the premier threats in baseball this month.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, it makes it a little bit tougher when the
cats out of the bag when you're gonna run, But
stealing bases it obviously helps. When you are fast. It's
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You know, there's a lot that goes into it. Your
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You know, tendencies of when they throw certain pitches in
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of a tell. Every picture has a little bit of
a rhythm that they get into. Josh Naylor has just
figured out how to maximize that.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
I'll tell you what else he's figured out.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
He's figured out that first basis co His name is
Eric Young Jr. His father is one of the best
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Speaker 6 (19:10):
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Speaker 5 (19:11):
One thing about him he's a student and it didn't
surprise me after he was done playing that he's the
first base coach. He used to talk to me and
I used to call him when we didn't play together,
and I say.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Hey, what do you got on this guy?
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And it'd be like, hey, toe in, or when he
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Speaker 4 (19:24):
Goes down, when he looks up to the air, when
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Almost a no hitter for Gavin Williams. Took his no
no into the ninth inning on Friday, was just about there.
Juan Soto took them deep. Gavin Williams is going to
join FT on Friday, by the way, so we're excited
for that. But we were talking about this at the end,
I think of yesterday show and then even in our
post production meeting, we were all watching him deal in
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Queens against the Mets one hundred eleven pitches? Did either
of you play with Steven Vote?
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Either of your teammates with I did brief stint.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, you both did, okay, So Cam, did you like
this voter was letting them eat one hundred eleven pitches?
Ninth inning, He's like, go for it, and then you
know what was even more surprising to me, after he
gives up the homer, he still left him in the game.
And then there was the walk, so he's like, okay
at that point he got taken out. But it was
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one hundred and twenty six pitches, most pitches thrown any
game this year, eight and two thirds innings. Couldn't complete
it for the complete game. I had to have someone
come in and obviously clean it up, But I mean,
what a performance eight and two thirds, a hit, four walks,
six strikeouts. Are you surprised not only that he let
him go in the ninth, but then after he gives
up the homer de Soto, that he still let him
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try and finish that thing.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
I wasn't just because I know Voter. Voter understands the game.
He's he's the guy who's had his feet to the dirt. Uh,
And he's one of the brightest guys that I've ever
played with. And I think he just understood the moment.
And it was a moment for for Williams right there
out there dealing in Queen's I mean, young guy, he's showing,
he showed.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Us glimpses, glimpses of this type of stuff.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
But I just just think it's one of those things
where where Voter read the room. He's been in these
in these situations, he's been behind a dish and and.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
He watched the game.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
He understands, Hey, my guy, you know, got beat by
one of the best in the game, and this is
his game. You know, this is his game, you know,
So he tried to let him go as far as
he could. And I love that, And I love that
confidence that it builds in the young guy. And I
love what bote, what Steven continues to show as a
leader man.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
He's a leader of men, and.
Speaker 5 (22:42):
And I love that. I think the Guardians have that
trust to him as well. I don't think it was
any backlash, you know, from the front office. I think
this is one of those things where they trust voter
and uh and and I think you know, this is
a great moment for for him and and and Williams
to continue to grow together as as manager and player.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Yeah, I was a bit surprised they allowed him to
go after hitting the home run, but I'm very happy
that they did allow him to go. First of all,
I love Stephen Voe as a friend, as a person,
I'm very happy he's in this position. He's a tremendous
he was a tremendous teammate, he was a tremendous leader.
And there's no surprise he's in a position that he's
in right now. That being said, he also played. He
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was a catcher. He understands the moment, he understands the situation.
He used his eyeballs, he used not only his coaching eyeballs,
But it's catching eyeballs to understand that his picture. Regardless
of the pitch count, he was still dealing. And what
I love even more is he does give up the
home run and instead of walking out there and being
like a great job, you know eight and two thirds,
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you give up this home run. You know, let him
try to get out of it, you know, don't let
him walk off with man. I wouldn't be upset if
I was a pitcher. I'd be disappointed. You know, you
get so close to doing it and then you give
up a home run. You know, that's the last pitch
you throw, is giving up a home run where you
haven't given up a hit the whole game. Give him
a chance to get out of it, and he did,
you know. Unfortunately he had a walk after it, and
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at that point you make a decision that's go out.
But also really classy by the Mets fans too. You know,
I played for the Mets. They can be tough on
you as a home player. They can definitely be tough
on you as a visiting player. But I love to
see when just good fans at baseball understand read the room,
understand the magnitude of the situation. You know, that doesn't
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mean you don't want to win a game. You just
have to be a fan of baseball. And sometimes when
you're in the stands and you're close to witnessing something
as great as a no hitter, you have to just
stand up and show your respects.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
That's right, standing up for Mets fans. And they got their.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Booze in too, because after each inning, especially as the
game was going on, when he would slice and dice,
they were boomed because they had a hitless streak that
was going into this one from the last game. I
think it ended at fourteen innings, so they were feeling
it a little bit up until the ninth. But I
agree with you. I mean, it's to see a fan
base understand the moment and how rare it is. And
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by the way, Cam Cleveland Guardians fans and Indians before that,
fans have not experienced this since Len Barker perfect game
May fifteenth, nineteen eighty one is the last time that
they've had a no hitter. It's the longest act of
no hitter drought in baseball.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
Yeah, guys get paid to not get out. Scott do that, man,
That's why you know, when you see these feats, there
are special moments, man, and I think that's why we
have to celebrate them like we do in our game,
because we know how difficult it is to go through
a lineup that many times, and you're always going to have.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
A little bit of luck on your side as well.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
But yeah, you know, but I again, guys like Williams,
you know, I don't think they're far from getting one,
you know, in there in near future.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yeah, why does it always feel like it's a home
run too? Can it just be like a you know,
blue it's like one of the other. It's either a
home run or like a weekly hit ball, And you're
like holding your breath, like if I'm a picture and
I'm gonna give up a hit, can it just be
like a you know, a clean base hit up the middle,
you know, no drama, but also you still have a
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shutout in order. You know, that's got to suck a
little bit for a picture. You go almost the distance,
you don't give up a hit, and then the one
hit you give up leads to a run. But you know,
like you said, if it was if it was something
where you just have to be a really good picture,
we would see it all the time because we have
amazing pictures. We have pictures with their stuff is so good.
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You know, Paul Skeins would do it every day if
it was something that happened all the time, if it
was easy to do.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
There is an.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Element of luck involved with it. And you know Cleveland
needs one. They need one. You know they had guys
like Corey Klueber who wasn't able to do it, so
you know, hopefully they get one here soon.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Do you think that Stephen Bote gets any pushback from
the front office in the scenario like that, or even afterward,
because you know he mentioned how you didn't even talk
to Evan Williams, didn't Carl Willis anyone else. He's like, hey,
look Crisp, I was feeling it. I'm latting him eat.
But I know this for a fact, cam most front
offices would give crap to their manager and be like,
(27:10):
absolutely not. Not one hundred and twenty six pitches. There
are a ton of young pitchers that they would go
nuts about. I guess Gavin Williams is more mid career
ish at this point, but still, do you think that
there's a conversation there because I know many other teams
would be a problem.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I'm sure it was a conversation, you know, but also
too Scotty and I don't know where the bullpen was
on usage.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
I don't know how banged up they might have been.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
But I do feel like, like you said, Gavin Willims
is so much somewhat early in his career, and he's
also had he also has a frame, right, I also
look at certain guys too. He has a frame that
looks like he can with stay in that type of
workload also, so I look at things like that.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
But I'm sure it was definitely a conversation.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
But I also think too when you look ahead their schedule,
I think they have some time off coming up, so
I think this might be a chance where he might
get an extra days of rest as well.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
So he might have been like, hey, he's dealings, he's doing.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
His thing, go ahead and let him just unload the
tank and he's gonna have extra day arrest, so he'll
be fine. So I'm sure I'm sure their conversations had
between manager and front office.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
For sure, when the guy goes out and he gives
you this type.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Of workload, that's true.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Extra off day, right, extra day rest for him then
six to fifty.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
I mean, he's a monster dude like that type of body. Listen.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
I'm sure his lifetime, I'm sure that dude was throwing
all types one hundred pitched games coming through the miners
and or excuse me, the youth.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Ranks in high school, in college.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
I'm sure he was definitely a guy who, you know,
he's thrown a lot.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
Of pitches before, he has that type of makeup.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Yeah, for my sanity and me being able to get
good sleep tonight, I really hope there wasn't a conversation
when you hire a guy to be your manager like
Steven Vogue, who's played the game, played the game at
a high level, was an All Star, was a catcher, understands,
you know, he made a living catching understanding pictures, seeing
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their stuff. I would really hope there's not a conversation
except for them coming down and maybe talking about how
close he was to throwing a no hitter. But I
really hope for my sanity that there wasn't any sort
of you know, pushback on his decision.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
And KP, Hey, Scotty, KP probably knows this. KP knows this.
One thing about Stephen Vague is he cares about his guys, right,
first off, he cared about his teammates when he when
he was a player, so I know as a manager,
one thing he's not gonna do is run a guy
out there to try to get a win or just
for stats, like he's he like like you know, like
Superman said, he's reading the room, he's using his eyeballs.
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And the last thing he's gonna do is put somebody
in danger.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
So you that's where were through, Stephen Vote.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
He's not gonna He's not gonna put somebody out there
and risk of getting injury just to get a win,
or say, hey, I left him out there for one
hundred and forty pitches and he threw a no hitter.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Like he's readers season where they're at in their season
right now. They are playing to win. They need to
win every game. This was Yes, there was a moment
where he could have made history. He could have thrown
a no hitter right there is as important that is
to Steven Vote and to the organization. They were playing
to win. If they felt like he wasn't the best
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person to get the last three outs, they would have
put someone else in that game. You know this was
a team where, you know, everything they went through over
the last couple of weeks, losing a couple of players,
you know, the gambling situation. You know, this is a
team that we started to count out, that we felt like,
you know, are they gonna sell, They're gonna sell? Are
they gonna sell? And they decided not to really sell.
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And this is a team you know, much like you know,
much like I mentioned, like the Brewers of recently, the
Astros of recently, this is just a team that figures
it out. You know, you count them out and they
figure out ways to just stay relevant. And I think
they're only two or a game back in the last
wildcard spot.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
Yeah yeah, it went Jackson somewhere laughing right now, going,
I can't believe it they're even having this conversation.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
That's true, that's true. Well let me find that for
you real quick. We've got a.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Game and a half separation between the Yankees and the Guardians.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
The Rangers are.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Also again six seven games in a row, like they're
right back in this. So, I mean, it's easy to
leave a guy out there and throw that many pitches,
you know, when you're not trying to go to the postseason.
You know when you are playing for you know, statistics,
you're playing for individual accomplishments. But Stephen Boats got hired
to win. He wants to win, so he left the
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best guy out there who he felt like can get
the last three outs.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, they've had the best record in the American League
in the second half of the season so far.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Believe it's fourteen and six.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Pretty damn good for a team that did not buy
at the trade deadline.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
They sold.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I mean, Shane Bieber hasn't pitched for them, but they
sold technically sellers at the trade deadline.
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Just like the Tigers were last year and what happened
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Speaker 2 (33:02):
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Speaker 1 (33:02):
What's wrong with the Mats? They're two and eight in
their last ten and it's late in the season. Can't
go through this for too long. For a little bit,
it's okay, but for too long, gotta be careful and
they just you know, they're not playing well against the
Guardians and the Giants in the past week.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I don't think anything's wrong. I think it's baseball. I mean,
bad teams be good teams, good teams be bad teams.
Everyone kind of goes through it. It's obviously very magnified
at the beginning of the year, and now we're getting
towards the end of the year and it starts to
become an issue, but I believe in that team.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
Yeah, I'm with KP.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
I think the offenses is a little cold right now,
but I think I think they're gonna be fine.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
I think they played a really quality rand of baseball.
Speaker 5 (33:47):
I think they have some very motivate, motivated guys in
the lineup. Pete Alonzo has done everything, in my eyes,
under the sun to.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Just prove how special he is, you know, to that organization.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Of course, I still have my questions about the starting rotation,
but I do believe in this lineup. That's one thing
I believe in is this lineup in this bullpen, and
I think the line of bull figured out. They're just
going through a little tough spell right now, but they're
in a good spot and I think guys are going
to figure out when they need to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yeah, that's good looking bullpen.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
And again, you know this is the thing. They have
guys that care right. And KP knows he was in
that clubhouse as well. You have leaders like Frankie Lindor,
You you have guys like Pete, you have guys like
Cedric Mullins. They have guys that care right, and they're
gonna be talking about, Hey, what do you see?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
What do you feel? They're going to bounce ideas off
each other and they're going to figure it out.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Hot corner time.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Are you letting your future stars or long term franchise
players truly cook. It's very relevant right now when Lawrence
Butler is now sitting for a third consecutive game against
the left handed pitcher, and obviously it could be something
going on behind the scenes where you know, sometimes a
guy is feeling something, little hurt, whatever, and you just
don't get it. But if that's not the case, Cam,
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I checked the standings, The A's aren't in it this year.
I checked the contract, the A's are living with law
long term and they love him. And I checked the
stats from last year. He was destroying left handed pitching.
It's been more of a down season for him this year.
But is this the right move to start platuning him
to this extent when you want him to thrive against
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lefties in right he's going forward?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Well, I think you can think about it a few
different ways. Right when you have a young guy like
law who is locked in and you just said it,
they're not going anywhere, and he hasn't hit lefties like
he did last season. And as a young player, you
know you're going to go through these ups and downs,
you know, early in your career.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
And I think this could just be.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
A moment where Kays is just saying, hey, man, we're
going to give you a couple of reset days right
also too, you know Koch's job and Kass has done
a really good job of setting his young guys up
for success. And we we knew, we know law is
a part of the long term plan. And I think
this could just be as simple as Cots who I
you know, he was my veteran when I was in
San Diego. He was a guy who told me to hey,
when they offered you, when they offer you a deal
(36:11):
that you never expected or more money than you've ever seen.
Mike did get out of to sign and I'm glad
I did. It was the best thing I did in
my career. So Cott's he One thing I know about
Mark Cott say he cares about his guys. And I
think this just may be, if anything, just some time
for law Dog to clear his head and just kind
of figure some things out and in the cages before
he gets them back in there. But I'm if I
(36:33):
had to guess he'll be right back in there facing
lefties before you know it.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Okay, I mean, we'll have to see. We'll have to
see if it's a like you said, is it a reset,
is it a couple of days, is it a thing,
or is it something that they're permanently gonna do. But
you know, I'm a big believer, and I understand how
difficult baseball is, you know. I know, we talked about
a guy like Mooie Betts, first ballot Hall of Famer,
one of the best players of our generation, maybe one
(37:02):
of the best players I've ever been around. Personally, He's
struggling this year. Baseball doesn't care who you are, how
much money you're making. It is hard to be great
year in and year out when you were in a
position where a team is throwing money at you. That
is more money than you've ever dreamed of making and
is gonna make your life. You're gonna be set for life,
(37:25):
and your kids are gonna be set for life. It's
hard to say no to that. It really really is,
you know. And I wanted to touch a little bit
on you know, some of the things I saw yesterday,
and we're talking about the what ifs. I'm not a
big believer in what ifs in this game because it's
easy in a vacuum to say, oh, yeah, if he
doesn't take the deal, he's gonna make X amount and
(37:46):
our year one and year two and year three and
he can sign for five or six hundred million dollars. Yeah,
that's great if everything works out. But what if it doesn't.
We never really talk about the players where it doesn't
work out, where they signed deals. But now they're triple
A and they're making five six million dollars a year.
You think they're enjoying themselves a little bit more playing
in you know, Syracuse or Buffalo or wherever they're at.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Yeah, yesterday we talked about it. The Roman Anthony extension.
I mean, for as good as he is, I'm with UKP.
I mean everyone's got a number. At some point. You
got to look at the number like this is crazy
good money. He's not locked up until he's thirty six
years old. He will hit the free agent market again.
You're just eating up the entire twenties for him, And hey,
(38:32):
how do you think I will present the counterpoint? Even
though I don't think Roman Anthony's going to be like this.
Ronald Acuna Junior has been hurt a good amount, but
when he's on the field, I mean, he's a superstar.
Do you think he feels okay with the fact that
he signed an eight year, one hundred million dollar contract
way back and he could have been a free agent
a while ago. Now, I know his knee has gotten
shredded up, but if he hit free agency, you know,
(38:54):
the season in between when he got hurt, he could
have gotten hundreds of millions of dollars. So do you
think he okay with what he did? Because he at
least got the security. And again we're talking about this
isn't like, oh, he signed for a million bucks one
hundred million dollars he's.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Gonna I mean, I was his teammate two years ago
and he's driving some pretty nice cars to the field.
He looked, and he comes to the field with a
really big smile on his face and he seems to
be very happy. Yeah, it's easy to talk about the
what if, But what if he didn't sign that hundred
million dollar deal and he was just playing it out
and trying to get that big contract and then he
(39:28):
hurts the knee and then he hurts the knee again,
are we talking about? You know, is he the same
type of players? He can get the same amount of money,
you know, And it's it's also easy we never talk
about when a player does sign up, you know, long
term for you know, one hundred million dollars, Well maybe
they should have got four hundred. You know, it's a
little bit easier going to bed at night going over
four oh for eight, like the paycheck's still coming in.
(39:51):
As a player that went year to year, there's a
lot of stress on that. People don't understand that. And granted,
I'm sitting in a position, you know, I made good
money in my career, but there's times I wish that
I would have been offered you know, maybe if I
could have been offered the same amount of money that
I made in my career in year one, and I
could have just been able to kind of take a
(40:12):
deep breath and just understand, I'm going to be in
one place for a long time. The paychecks coming in.
I don't have to worry about the what if down
the road? Could would I have been a better player?
I don't know, you know, that's that's the tough question
with something like this.
Speaker 5 (40:25):
But this, but this is, this is how you have
to look at it for me, because before we talked
about it prior to and Scott and I love, I
love that you brought up Ronald le'cullier, right, and when
you brought bring up rondal cull you.
Speaker 4 (40:36):
This is what I did. I made a list. Check
this out.
Speaker 5 (40:38):
Julio Rodriguez fourteen year, two hundred and ten million up
to four hundred and seventy million. He has not played
like a four hundred million dollar player. Michael Harris signs
an eight year, seventy two million dollar deal. The defense
is still elite. He has not replicated that offense. Attalie
Rushman eight years.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
One thirteen. He has not played like that type of catcher.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
Wait now, Adley hasn't signed. Poled up?
Speaker 4 (40:59):
Oh excuse Adlie had Adlie didn't sign.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
You were cooking, but then I had to stop you on.
Speaker 5 (41:04):
But Adlie didn't sign, So okay, hey skip Adleie. Luis
Roberts Junior, right, hasn't hasn't played up to that contract.
Speaker 4 (41:13):
He's good for life.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Eloy Jmenez Key, Brian Hayes, Hey, Scott Kingery, you know
what I'm saying, Andres Jimenez. These are guys who have
not performed like they you know, did when they got
offered those deals, you know, So for me, this is
why I think it's important. Like you know, like KP said,
you know, they're gonna be the counions, but you're also
gonna have a listful of these guys also who you know,
(41:36):
it was good that they signed these deals when you
look at the way that they're playing, because they might
not get offers ever again.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
I mean, even just this year, we talk about Christian Campbell.
You know, he got off to the best start I'd
ever seen, and I watched him on Opening Day and
I was like, I've never really even you know. I
started to hear about him a little bit on TV
and spring training, and I was fortunate that I got
to watch him play an opening day and I was like, Wow,
this guy is amazing. And then honestly, in the first
week he signs this deal. You know where he's at
(42:05):
right now.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
In the bush?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
Yes, he's yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
We mentioned it, and there was and there was, and
there was these same talks about why did he take
the sixty million? Was sixty million? I don't want to misspeak.
I know it, we're somewhere between yeah, sixty million. It's like, oh,
we're judging a guy off of you know, one week
in the in the Big League, for judging off one week. Oh,
this guy he's gonna make three hundred million is in
his career? Why is he going to take the sixty million?
(42:33):
The guy's playing in Triple A right now. Base is
hard ball.
Speaker 5 (42:38):
Scott Kanary, Literally, how do you think Scott Kyry feels that,
dude is that's probably the best thing that guy did.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
I know how he feels rich. He feels rich.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
And the thing is exactly that there is risk on
both side.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Teams teams say this.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Too, but most of the time they get the surplus
value on the back end, so I think it levels out.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I think it's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
And like you said, the comfort for the player can
often lead to better performance and guys just thinking about
the team and not themselves and not their next situation
to make sure that they were still there.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Right. You watch Joo Rodriguez, That's exactly how he plays.
Speaker 5 (43:14):
Huo Rodriguez played and again he's having these moments, but
he literally plays like I'm just playing for the team,
even when I'm struggling.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
He's smile like he's a he's a team guy.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
But you can't tell me that security does not help, right,
He's like ay, at end of the day, like you
know what, I'm not playing like this money that I'm offering.
So I'm gonna be the best teammate in the freaking world.
And I'm sure that's who he is anyway. But it
helps you out a whole bunch. KP is exactly right
about that.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
Actually, all of this plays into the conversation we were just having.
So The Philly Show was talking about Max Kepler and
they said, if he doesn't start producing, he could be
the odd man out once Harrison Vader is taken over
in center field. Bader is not a platoon guy, they said.
At some point, you're gonna have to cut bait. Kepler
signed a one year contract for I think ten million
bucks in the offseason. Cam, did you mention Eloy Jimenez
or he'said Louis Robert when you were talking about the extension, guys,
(44:02):
where did you say both?
Speaker 4 (44:04):
I said both?
Speaker 2 (44:05):
You said both?
Speaker 4 (44:05):
Both? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (44:06):
I mean Olloy, dude.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
I'm looking back at my notes from when Alloy signed
six years forty three million spring training twenty nineteen crushed
the record for a minor leaguer with no MLB time.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yeah, And people were like, this guy's going to be
the next fifty Homer Bay in the sport. How could
he just take forty three million dollars.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
It's like, I don't even think he's playing ball right now,
and if he is, it's not in the majors.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
Yeah, I mean, I'm and seriously, and again I messed
up on add Addlie had Adlie hadn't signed. But you
look at those deals and I remember that too. Skuy
were like, what is this guy doing? I mean, this
guy's the next coming of who?
Speaker 4 (44:43):
I mean? It was like, what is going on?
Speaker 5 (44:45):
But the game is so hard and it's so unpredictable
and KP knows some days you wake up on the
baseball field. And I had years where I literally felt
like I forgot how to play the game, like like
literally you play since you were three years old. And
I had seasons where I literally have cried in the car. Man,
I'm like, what is going on right now?
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Like?
Speaker 4 (45:02):
Who am I? Right?
Speaker 5 (45:03):
I told you you feel like the Monks star sat
Z after power from you. So again to have that
type of you know, incentive to fall back on.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
Man, it feels good. Listened.
Speaker 5 (45:13):
When I signed my Del Sainte Ago and I had
those days, it helped me sleep a lot better thinking
about some of the security man like whew, man, I'm
you know what, Yeah, did I think I was one
hundred million dollars?
Speaker 4 (45:22):
Yeah? Yeah I did. Did I play that way? No?
Speaker 5 (45:25):
I didn't end up playing that way, clearly, but that
little bit of security. Man, when I tell you, I'm
so grateful for Mark Kotte telling me, hey, man, listen,
I signed the one deal earlier in my year. It
was like fifty two million. I signed it. It was
the It changed my family's life ever and it was
never off another contract, whatever the story was, and it
was the best thing I ever did you.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Know it was the best thing? M Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
I mean Max Kuppler actually signed one of those in
twenty nineteen as well. Five years, thirty five million.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
We thought he was gonna be something. Yeah, and Max
has been good. You know, he's had it, yeah, glimpses
and he's a spest. But now on you keep.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Bringing the name Attlee Russian up. You know the way
he's playing right now, You don't think I'm guessing you go.
I'm guessing he had a deal probably similar to what you.
Speaker 4 (46:15):
You know said.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Maybe that's where you got the number from. If you
think any you're thinking, he wish you would have signed
something like that.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Now, man, exactly, all right, KP, We're gonna do two things.
We're gonna talk Blue Jays now for two minutes. Then
we're gonna talk about him in a different realm coming
up in the next segment.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
So first off, they had a little time, you know,
they were doing me. They were a little man over
the past week.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
And then they ran into the Rockies, which is just
the best medicine when you run into what could end
up being the worst team.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Of all time by a record.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
So they won fifteen to one, then ten to four,
and then they finished up the series trailing one nothing
and scoring twenty in a row to win twenty to one.
So it was a nice series winning for the Blue Jays.
Most hits in a three game series and one hundred
and twenty five years the Blue Jays had sixty three
hits in their sweep against Colorado. Yes, that's the most
in a three game set since nineteen hundred. Everybody's stats
(47:08):
went off. Is that one of those kp when you're
in the dugout and you're like, oh, we're getting paid
in this series. Stats are gonna fly, staffs are gonna pump. Oh,
you're slug percentage down a little bit.
Speaker 2 (47:18):
Welcome.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
Yeah. I mean, obviously going into Colorado is you always
have that thought in your head. It's like, Okay, it's
time for me to boost the stats a little bit.
It also helps that Colorado is not very good right now.
But I have to say, I mean, they're major league players.
You know, even the worst major league team with the
worst major league players on it, there's still major league
baseball players. They're better than everyone else in the world.
(47:41):
They're there for a reason. But what Toronto was able
to do and just go in there and handle business,
they made it look easy, and it's not that easy
because the guy on the mound, he's fighting for his life,
he's trying to make money, he's trying to stay in
the big leagues. He's not just grooving fastballs over the
plane and saying, hey, you guys, scores mini runs you want? So,
you know, obviously a great time for the Blue Jays
(48:03):
to go in there. Every single person in that lineup
has extreme confidence right now, and I think they're They're
about to go into a series and I'm actually gonna
go do the pre and post game for the Toronto
Blue Jays in Canada. I'm flying out tomorrow and they
have a series with the Dodgers and this is gonna
be a heavyweight matchup. You know, the Dodgers are the Dodgers.
(48:24):
The Dodgers are always going to get everyone's best and
Toronto is playing their best right now, not only because
they're really good, but they just got off of a
series where everyone is feeling good. The worst thing that
happened to the Blue Jays is them having an off
day to day.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Let's slap and say congrats early to Adam Jones, who's
going to be honored this Saturday.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
Our buddy. We got to get him back on to
talk about this post.
Speaker 1 (48:59):
But he's going to be honored over in Baltimore, Camden
Yards into the Orioles Hall of Fame. He will be
inducted this Saturday. They freaking love him out there, and
Cam that's our boy too, and he's uh, I don't
you know. He's kind of working within the team a
little bit now too. So he's been vocal about trying
to get the team back on track for next year.
(49:20):
This is, you know, therapeutic in terms of what the
Orioles fans need right now. It's just the Adam Jones
smile after they just traded away half their team and
they're not going to be a playoff team.
Speaker 5 (49:32):
Yeah, this is great from Adam Man. Adam was a
guy that I looked up to throughout my career. Man,
He's always played the game the right way. I was
always willing to pull a young guy to the side
and give him a piece of advice.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
I mean to this day, if I need something.
Speaker 5 (49:44):
I can call him. So congrats to Adam Man. Will
deserved and and like you said, a bright spot for
the Orioles this year and a much needed bright spot.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Yeah, KPM true. I was up early career right with
the Orioles with that.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
I was one of those young guys that was one
of those young guys I was competing against him, We
were in competition with each other, but he was never afraid.
I went up to him maybe my second year, third year,
and I basically just told him like, how are you
still doing it at such a high level?
Speaker 4 (50:13):
You know?
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Center field is such a physically demanding position. How are
you still doing it at such a high level? You know,
six seven, eight years in the league. You know, he
was much older than me at that time, and he
just gave me some really good advice, and I always
appreciated it. I think my favorite thing about Adam Jones
was what we touched on his smile. He just played
the game with so much joy and so much fun,
and I always was envious of the way he could
(50:34):
just play so relaxed and have so much fun playing it.
I was always a very serious guy because baseball was
so hard for me that I didn't have time to smile.
I had to focus twenty four to seven when I
was in a baseball field, and loved that he just
always smiled. He could chew a bubble gum and rob
a home run. Congrats. Adam Jones just one of the
players of all time.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
That's cool. You know.
Speaker 1 (50:56):
Now, he travels a lot, and sometimes he'll pop up
in a city and he'll just be like on Twitter,
anyone upon a play golf today, and then he'll literally
DM some of the people and be like cool, see
at the course at whatever time. So that's Adam for
you always having a good time, enjoying life. You'll see
him a lot of MLB events. But again, props Adam Jones.
(51:16):
You know part of us, especially when we first started
popping up on shows all the time. So we're back
tomorrow and Cavin Williams will join us on tomorrow show.
Oh also, Mike trout Happy birthday today.
Speaker 3 (51:31):
Yeah, happy, happy birthday.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
How old is Trouty? Do we know?
Speaker 3 (51:38):
Probably not as old as we think. It's crazy. It's
like he's been in the league so long. I mean,
I want to say like happy thirty first, thirty third,
thirty thirty.
Speaker 4 (51:47):
Four, thirty fourth.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
No, we're so mad because he's he's been playing for
so long. And here I am. I'm thirty six, I'm
sitting at home and he's playing for fifteen years and
he's my goats.
Speaker 4 (52:00):
He's one of my goats. He's one of the goats.
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