October 2, 2023 • 19 mins
Ever wondered why fentanyl, one of the most addictive drugs, is increasingly affordable? Or how Seattle's homelessness crisis is inadvertently fostering a breeding ground for illicit drug dealing? Buckle up, as we tackle these hard-hitting questions and more. We dissect the societal implications of the drug crisis, shed light on the flaws in homeless housing programs, and propose education as a powerful deterrent to drug use.
We also examine Generation Z's attitude towards work. Job-hopping, driven by unrealistic internet portrayals and the allure of easy money from platforms like OnlyFans, has become their new normal. We note the potential pitfalls of this unstable career trajectory and the illusion of quick money. Emphasizing the value of job commitment and living in the present, we remind our listeners that life is fleeting. Join us for a meaningful conversation about societal issues that shape our time.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello and welcome to Foundation Nation.
I'm your host, matthew Cote,along with Daniel.
We're both high school educated, masters of nothing and gifted
with the knowledge of well a lot.
Today on the podcast, we'regoing to talk about some
interesting recent goings on inour beautiful state and maybe
even a few things going on inthis amazing round thing we call
home.
Hello, I'm Matthew Cote, hostof Foundation Nation, along with
(00:28):
Daniel.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hello, I'm Daniel, your cohost.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Alright, well, welcome to another amazing
episode underneath the airportof SeaTac, washington.
Today is Sunday.
We were just talking about theplanes taken off today, and
Daniel suggested that all theplanes are leaving to bring
people back from vacation today,because it just seems like it's
been one giant plane afteranother while we've been talking
(00:55):
, so lots of planes flying overour heads during this recording
today.
So what I was going to talkabout was you know, I spend more
time outside in the summer andit's just one drug addict after
another, everywhere, all over.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, fentanyl has been a problem in the US because
it is so cheap.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, like dollars, like seven bucks, you're high
for who knows how long.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
There is one tiny little problem this thing is
super addictive and you caneasily get an overdose, and
overdose leads to death.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, they don't seem to be dying.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well, I would say in general, the problem with
narcotics is not the people whobring narcotics.
It's about educating people.
So the narcotics are bad, andthis way you can prevent them
(02:12):
from using it, and once you stoppeople from using it, they will
not be able to sell it.
Right yeah, but for some reasonour schools don't do that,
right, right yeah, you have tostart in the kindergarten to
(02:33):
teach people that all of thisstuff is not good for health,
and in 15, 20 years we shoulderadicate this problem, but it's
not happening yet.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Well, I was looking at like the fentanyl and meth
and stuff and I was trying tofigure out how long you know
well.
So well, first of all I went onmy phone and I went on
incognito, didn't want to, youknow, attract any attention from
the drug dealers or whatever,but I wanted to see.
(03:10):
So what is the drug that youknow what's the best one, or
whatever?
And it was the, some ice orsomething you know crystal, some
crystal version.
And then I was like, okay, howlong does that one last and how
much does it cost when you gethigh?
And it was a huge range.
(03:30):
It was four hours to 16 hours,from seven to $30, from $7 to
$30.
I mean, how do you stop that?
Seven bucks and that's?
I mean that's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And that's why how are they?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
even how are they making any money?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
The drug dealers seven bucks, you see, it is
because of a cost of it toproduce.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Okay.
So if they're selling it for $7, that means they're making it
for a quarter, 50 cents.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Probably, even less, probably like one cent.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
One cent for a little chunk of whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So seven bucks, man, you'd have to sell so much for
seven bucks.
They had 218 people died living, you know that were living on
the streets in Seattle and KingCounty just to the beginning of
July this year, 218 people.
10 of those were killed bypeople that were on drugs and
just lost their fucking mind.
(04:34):
You know, 10%, 10%, no, no, not10%.
10 people were killed by thesepeople that were just high out
of their minds, you know.
You wonder, were they high orwere they just didn't get drugs
and they're pissed off, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, once you're high, starts to wear out, you
start looking for new dose, andif you don't have any money, you
try, you go find it.
Yeah, and that's why pettycrime is very high.
Yeah, because all they need isseven bucks.
Yeah, so basically, you cansteal anything, no matter what
(05:13):
it is, yeah, and sell it, andit's going to be just enough for
one dose.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm sure there's probably guyswith trucks down the streets,
you know, just waiting to buywhatever they bring them, you
know.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yep, and that's why all of these areas where
spontaneously all the homelesspeople kind of leave all of
these tents and stuff, they areactually centers of such
(05:52):
activities.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Mm-hmm, the deputy mayor of Seattle says that
fentanyl and meth havecompletely saturated the
homeless ecosystem.
Mm-hmm, Basically they're nothomeless people anymore like
they used to be many years ago.
They're all complete drugaddicts.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So I would say at least 10% of all of the homeless
are not homeless butprofessional drug dealers.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
That just live inside them or live with them, yep.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yep, yep.
And because policies inWashington state, and especially
in Seattle, allowing them tolive worry-free and even
supplying them with money andalcohol and even drugs, it just
(06:43):
makes sense to use thesecampsites for such activities.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
The biggest thing that I've heard on the news
about homeless drug issues isthey had those.
They developed or gave orcreated a program for those
Narcans you know where theycould give them so they don't
overdose or freak out or have aheart attack or whatever.
(07:11):
But it doesn't seem like theygot a handle on it.
Oh, as a matter of fact, I justread something the other day I
think it was yesterday the wholehomeless program where they
home people in like old hotelsand stuff.
It went completely bankrupt andshut down the program because
they just didn't have their shittogether and everything got
(07:34):
confused and like theirfinancials were a mess and they
just their funding andeverything.
So now that whole program thatwas housing like 300 people
beyond these people that we'retalking about is closed.
So those people will be on thestreets, if not already.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, on all of these housing programs for homeless
there is a problem.
Local government, stategovernment gives money for these
programs and if you look onallocation of funds, it is
(08:13):
usually not 100% goes tohomeless people With at least
some portion.
In some states it is up to 70%of funds goes to administration
cost.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
And bonuses and accelerators and bullshit.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
And I think that's what they're finding out with
that whole program for thehousing the homeless people that
the money was just sodisorganized.
I don't know if it was stealingit or if it was just super poor
management, but either way, theprogram is done, bankrupt,
closed and all those people arenow going to be homeless or are
homeless again.
(08:55):
So you know, but you got tolook at it it's a little bit the
program's fault and it's also alittle bit the people's fault.
You know, because you know thehomeless people that were in
there.
They, they.
You can only give them so muchtime and opportunity to get
their shit together.
And if they don't, you knowwhat do you do?
You know it's just not.
It's not a forever program.
(09:15):
It's a we're going to help youprogram to get it together, to
get out there and get a job andget your shit together.
It's not like this isn't yourlife forever.
We're going to support it,everything you know.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
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Speaker 1 (09:41):
I wanted to talk about the.
My one of my most tryingsubjects is the our young
workforce.
I thought this was this wasjust completely crazy.
So something that started awhile ago maybe even before
COVID, I think was people wouldget a job and then get a better
(10:03):
job and then get a better job,and they'd never stick around
long enough to learn enough ofyou know quality work or just
have some loyalty or anythinglike that.
And now a lot of youngerworkers are that were job
hopping.
It seems to have lost at Sigmaand I think that's fine.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
The thing is that particular generation, what is
it called the generation Z?
I think they are what they'recalling it looking for
themselves, so I mean lookingfor their place in the world,
and they're like, okay, this jobis good, but maybe another one
(10:47):
is better, so I need to continueto look for my dream job or
whatever.
Oh, I'm chasing.
Some younger workers arechasing money Right, simply even
$20,000 a year.
It's like it's worth chasingfor, yeah, but I do not know,
(11:15):
especially in an IT environmentwhen they have such high
salaries, $20,000 may make adifference or may not, but
employers, they are actuallylooking.
If people are hoping, arehoping from one job to another,
(11:42):
and that that is not a welcomesite.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I think a lot of the Gen Z are, you know, they're 20s
, you know, and I think they'recompletely overwhelmed with the
internet and the idea of youcould make a video or do a
podcast or and just makemillions of dollars every day
all the time.
You know, and it just, I thinkthe internet sells it as
(12:06):
something super easy and informsthem of that.
That's one thing, and thenanother is informs them of of
other things and they they justdon't have the attention span
like they need.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You know, the problem is it is all good while you're
young, but once you pass acertain age you are no longer
relevant to all of these ways ofmaking money.
Your, your, your income willdrastically change from
(12:46):
everything to nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
The same goes with girls who use only fans Like oh,
I am earning so much money, Idon't need nobody, right?
Once they hit certain age, allof that money goes away, right,
yeah, and now they will have tothink about other means of
(13:12):
getting that income.
Well, I think we just have towait a little bit.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Well, yeah, in 120 years, every single person on
this planet will be gone.
Yep.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
In 120 years, every single person that's living
today will be gone and a whole,nother, whole, nother chunk of
people will be here, you know.
So if you think you're special,you know, or more special than
everyone else, you know, youknow really we're all quite
equal and just different in ourown way.
But as far as you know it'sit's just enjoy what you have
(13:53):
while you have it and try to bean, you know, an honest,
hardworking person.
And I think bouncing around isI don't think, I don't think
that's a good thing.
I think you know, focus on yourwork, get your pay figured out
and then enjoy life.
You know bouncing around can be.
I think.
I think the Gen Z, in myopinion, has got it all wrong.
(14:14):
I think they're they'reweakening our industry, they're
weakening our country.
I don't think that there's apositive thing that comes out of
them chasing more money.
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Well, I'm hoping that once they grow up a little bit
older they will figure it outand we'll get their stuff
together.
Like, for example, my son.
He didn't want to jump fromcompany to company.
Yeah, but he had to, becausecompany actually two companies
(14:56):
will straight out bought byanother company.
Yeah and they just laid offeveryone, everybody.
Oh wow, yeah, they bought thecompany because they liked the
product.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, but they don't like the people.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
People will.
They would have to pay him alot, so they just buy the
product and transfer everythingoverseas, where everything is
cheaper.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And it happened twice to him.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Wow, yeah, what is the products?
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I don't know, I don't know some some sort of computer
stuff programming.
Oh okay, they're just workingon some sort of a software.
Yeah that is used for something.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, some people just love that sitting in front
of the computer.
You know, programming and doingtheir creation of computer
stuff, and yeah, it's just, andthey don't have a problem for 15
hours a day sitting in front oftheir computer just pounding
out computer programs.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Hold on After they are done working.
Yeah, they continue playing.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
It's like, okay, I'm done with work, now I'm going to
play.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Well, when you do too much of anything, it just it
gets crazy.
I remember when I was fishingin Alaska, I was long line and
and the days when you fish inAlaska, you know to compare to
like playing video games when,when I'm out fishing, when I was
out fishing, we would fish for1820 hours, 22 hours, something
like that, every day, catch allthe fish.
(16:24):
Sometimes when we're offloading, it would.
It would be like a 30 hours ofoffloading.
It was just you're, you're in acomplete trance, you know.
But I remember going to sleepfor the after the sometime
during the first week, and Iwent to sleep and all night long
I was, I had my, my arms andlegs, I was sitting on the top
bunk and I was pushing fish awayand fish were falling on me in
(16:46):
the night.
I was just so overwhelmed withcatching fish all day long that,
you know, in the night I waslike exercising, you know, kind
of like crawling, you know, butupside down and fish were
falling on me.
I wake up exhausted, you know,and it's just yeah.
When you do too much ofanything, it'll destroy you, you
know.
It's just overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yes, but you cannot do anything about it, because
they're like I'm okay still,yeah, I still have some health
left.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
So yeah, well, I think I think what people need
to do is, when they are jumpingaround from job to job, or or,
or, or, whatever it is, andthey're kind of seeking out what
looks best for them in theircareer, I think they should be
honest and honest with thepeople that are hiring them and
telling them that.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Well, they have to have it in their resume.
Yeah, that they quit so manyjobs or moved from.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
No, I know that they can show 15 jobs in a year.
I get that, but what I'm sayingis they should have.
They should also say I'mlooking for my career.
You know, this might last ayear, it might not.
So far I haven't found what I'mlooking for, and that should be
something that they should say,because companies don't hire
people to work for a smallamount of time.
You know, most companies hirepeople, and the training could
(18:10):
take a year, you know.
So I think it's important thatthey voice what they're looking
for in life and a career beforethey get hired.
Anyway, that's just me, though.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, on the other hand, employer can persuade the
employee to stay with them ifthey like them and, for example,
they want to go.
They can just give them whatthey want.
So they stay, right, right,usually it's money problem.
(18:42):
Usually, most of the time, itis a money problem because
you're basically doing the samething in another company, right?
So that's not a big deal.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Well, whoever pays more, gets more.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
On the other hand, okay, google was paying the most
, yeah, but they laid off like awhole bunch of people, yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Well, it's it's competitive market out there
these days, all right.
Well, I'm Matthew Cote.
This is Foundation Nation,along with Daniel.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, have a good day , guys.
Goodbye.
Hello and welcome to Foundation Nation.
I'm your host, matthew Cote,along with Daniel.
We're both high school educated, masters of nothing and gifted
with the knowledge of well a lot.
Today on the podcast, we'regoing to talk about some
interesting recent goings on inour beautiful state and maybe
even a few things going on inthis amazing round thing we call
home.
Hello, I'm Matthew Cote, hostof Foundation Nation, along with
(00:28):
Daniel.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Hello, I'm Daniel, your cohost.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Alright, well, welcome to another amazing
episode underneath the airportof SeaTac, washington.
Today is Sunday.
We were just talking about theplanes taken off today, and
Daniel suggested that all theplanes are leaving to bring
people back from vacation today,because it just seems like it's
been one giant plane afteranother while we've been talking
(00:55):
, so lots of planes flying overour heads during this recording
today.
So what I was going to talkabout was you know, I spend more
time outside in the summer andit's just one drug addict after
another, everywhere, all over.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, fentanyl has been a problem in the US because
it is so cheap.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, like dollars, like seven bucks, you're high
for who knows how long.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
There is one tiny little problem this thing is
super addictive and you caneasily get an overdose, and
overdose leads to death.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Well, they don't seem to be dying.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Well, I would say in general, the problem with
narcotics is not the people whobring narcotics.
It's about educating people.
So the narcotics are bad, andthis way you can prevent them
(02:12):
from using it, and once you stoppeople from using it, they will
not be able to sell it.
Right yeah, but for some reasonour schools don't do that,
right, right yeah, you have tostart in the kindergarten to
(02:33):
teach people that all of thisstuff is not good for health,
and in 15, 20 years we shoulderadicate this problem, but it's
not happening yet.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Well, I was looking at like the fentanyl and meth
and stuff and I was trying tofigure out how long you know
well.
So well, first of all I went onmy phone and I went on
incognito, didn't want to, youknow, attract any attention from
the drug dealers or whatever,but I wanted to see.
(03:10):
So what is the drug that youknow what's the best one, or
whatever?
And it was the, some ice orsomething you know crystal, some
crystal version.
And then I was like, okay, howlong does that one last and how
much does it cost when you gethigh?
And it was a huge range.
(03:30):
It was four hours to 16 hours,from seven to $30, from $7 to
$30.
I mean, how do you stop that?
Seven bucks and that's?
I mean that's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And that's why how are they?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
even how are they making any money?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
The drug dealers seven bucks, you see, it is
because of a cost of it toproduce.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Okay.
So if they're selling it for $7, that means they're making it
for a quarter, 50 cents.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Probably, even less, probably like one cent.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
One cent for a little chunk of whatever.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So seven bucks, man, you'd have to sell so much for
seven bucks.
They had 218 people died living, you know that were living on
the streets in Seattle and KingCounty just to the beginning of
July this year, 218 people.
10 of those were killed bypeople that were on drugs and
just lost their fucking mind.
(04:34):
You know, 10%, 10%, no, no, not10%.
10 people were killed by thesepeople that were just high out
of their minds, you know.
You wonder, were they high orwere they just didn't get drugs
and they're pissed off, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, once you're high, starts to wear out, you
start looking for new dose, andif you don't have any money, you
try, you go find it.
Yeah, and that's why pettycrime is very high.
Yeah, because all they need isseven bucks.
Yeah, so basically, you cansteal anything, no matter what
(05:13):
it is, yeah, and sell it, andit's going to be just enough for
one dose.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm sure there's probably guyswith trucks down the streets,
you know, just waiting to buywhatever they bring them, you
know.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yep, and that's why all of these areas where
spontaneously all the homelesspeople kind of leave all of
these tents and stuff, they areactually centers of such
(05:52):
activities.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Mm-hmm, the deputy mayor of Seattle says that
fentanyl and meth havecompletely saturated the
homeless ecosystem.
Mm-hmm, Basically they're nothomeless people anymore like
they used to be many years ago.
They're all complete drugaddicts.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So I would say at least 10% of all of the homeless
are not homeless butprofessional drug dealers.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
That just live inside them or live with them, yep.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yep, yep.
And because policies inWashington state, and especially
in Seattle, allowing them tolive worry-free and even
supplying them with money andalcohol and even drugs, it just
(06:43):
makes sense to use thesecampsites for such activities.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
The biggest thing that I've heard on the news
about homeless drug issues isthey had those.
They developed or gave orcreated a program for those
Narcans you know where theycould give them so they don't
overdose or freak out or have aheart attack or whatever.
(07:11):
But it doesn't seem like theygot a handle on it.
Oh, as a matter of fact, I justread something the other day I
think it was yesterday the wholehomeless program where they
home people in like old hotelsand stuff.
It went completely bankrupt andshut down the program because
they just didn't have their shittogether and everything got
(07:34):
confused and like theirfinancials were a mess and they
just their funding andeverything.
So now that whole program thatwas housing like 300 people
beyond these people that we'retalking about is closed.
So those people will be on thestreets, if not already.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, on all of these housing programs for homeless
there is a problem.
Local government, stategovernment gives money for these
programs and if you look onallocation of funds, it is
(08:13):
usually not 100% goes tohomeless people With at least
some portion.
In some states it is up to 70%of funds goes to administration
cost.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
And bonuses and accelerators and bullshit.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
And I think that's what they're finding out with
that whole program for thehousing the homeless people that
the money was just sodisorganized.
I don't know if it was stealingit or if it was just super poor
management, but either way, theprogram is done, bankrupt,
closed and all those people arenow going to be homeless or are
homeless again.
(08:55):
So you know, but you got tolook at it it's a little bit the
program's fault and it's also alittle bit the people's fault.
You know, because you know thehomeless people that were in
there.
They, they.
You can only give them so muchtime and opportunity to get
their shit together.
And if they don't, you knowwhat do you do?
You know it's just not.
It's not a forever program.
(09:15):
It's a we're going to help youprogram to get it together, to
get out there and get a job andget your shit together.
It's not like this isn't yourlife forever.
We're going to support it,everything you know.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
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housescom.
Schedule your free tour todayto explore the leaf, seattle's
most unique tiny house.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I wanted to talk about the.
My one of my most tryingsubjects is the our young
workforce.
I thought this was this wasjust completely crazy.
So something that started awhile ago maybe even before
COVID, I think was people wouldget a job and then get a better
(10:03):
job and then get a better job,and they'd never stick around
long enough to learn enough ofyou know quality work or just
have some loyalty or anythinglike that.
And now a lot of youngerworkers are that were job
hopping.
It seems to have lost at Sigmaand I think that's fine.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
The thing is that particular generation, what is
it called the generation Z?
I think they are what they'recalling it looking for
themselves, so I mean lookingfor their place in the world,
and they're like, okay, this jobis good, but maybe another one
(10:47):
is better, so I need to continueto look for my dream job or
whatever.
Oh, I'm chasing.
Some younger workers arechasing money Right, simply even
$20,000 a year.
It's like it's worth chasingfor, yeah, but I do not know,
(11:15):
especially in an IT environmentwhen they have such high
salaries, $20,000 may make adifference or may not, but
employers, they are actuallylooking.
If people are hoping, arehoping from one job to another,
(11:42):
and that that is not a welcomesite.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I think a lot of the Gen Z are, you know, they're 20s
, you know, and I think they'recompletely overwhelmed with the
internet and the idea of youcould make a video or do a
podcast or and just makemillions of dollars every day
all the time.
You know, and it just, I thinkthe internet sells it as
(12:06):
something super easy and informsthem of that.
That's one thing, and thenanother is informs them of of
other things and they they justdon't have the attention span
like they need.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
You know, the problem is it is all good while you're
young, but once you pass acertain age you are no longer
relevant to all of these ways ofmaking money.
Your, your, your income willdrastically change from
(12:46):
everything to nothing.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
The same goes with girls who use only fans Like oh,
I am earning so much money, Idon't need nobody, right?
Once they hit certain age, allof that money goes away, right,
yeah, and now they will have tothink about other means of
(13:12):
getting that income.
Well, I think we just have towait a little bit.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Well, yeah, in 120 years, every single person on
this planet will be gone.
Yep.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
In 120 years, every single person that's living
today will be gone and a whole,nother, whole, nother chunk of
people will be here, you know.
So if you think you're special,you know, or more special than
everyone else, you know, youknow really we're all quite
equal and just different in ourown way.
But as far as you know it'sit's just enjoy what you have
(13:53):
while you have it and try to bean, you know, an honest,
hardworking person.
And I think bouncing around isI don't think, I don't think
that's a good thing.
I think you know, focus on yourwork, get your pay figured out
and then enjoy life.
You know bouncing around can be.
I think.
I think the Gen Z, in myopinion, has got it all wrong.
(14:14):
I think they're they'reweakening our industry, they're
weakening our country.
I don't think that there's apositive thing that comes out of
them chasing more money.
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Well, I'm hoping that once they grow up a little bit
older they will figure it outand we'll get their stuff
together.
Like, for example, my son.
He didn't want to jump fromcompany to company.
Yeah, but he had to, becausecompany actually two companies
(14:56):
will straight out bought byanother company.
Yeah and they just laid offeveryone, everybody.
Oh wow, yeah, they bought thecompany because they liked the
product.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah, but they don't like the people.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
People will.
They would have to pay him alot, so they just buy the
product and transfer everythingoverseas, where everything is
cheaper.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And it happened twice to him.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Wow, yeah, what is the products?
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
I don't know, I don't know some some sort of computer
stuff programming.
Oh okay, they're just workingon some sort of a software.
Yeah that is used for something.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, some people just love that sitting in front
of the computer.
You know, programming and doingtheir creation of computer
stuff, and yeah, it's just, andthey don't have a problem for 15
hours a day sitting in front oftheir computer just pounding
out computer programs.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Hold on After they are done working.
Yeah, they continue playing.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
It's like, okay, I'm done with work, now I'm going to
play.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Well, when you do too much of anything, it just it
gets crazy.
I remember when I was fishingin Alaska, I was long line and
and the days when you fish inAlaska, you know to compare to
like playing video games when,when I'm out fishing, when I was
out fishing, we would fish for1820 hours, 22 hours, something
like that, every day, catch allthe fish.
(16:24):
Sometimes when we're offloading, it would.
It would be like a 30 hours ofoffloading.
It was just you're, you're in acomplete trance, you know.
But I remember going to sleepfor the after the sometime
during the first week, and Iwent to sleep and all night long
I was, I had my, my arms andlegs, I was sitting on the top
bunk and I was pushing fish awayand fish were falling on me in
(16:46):
the night.
I was just so overwhelmed withcatching fish all day long that,
you know, in the night I waslike exercising, you know, kind
of like crawling, you know, butupside down and fish were
falling on me.
I wake up exhausted, you know,and it's just yeah.
When you do too much ofanything, it'll destroy you, you
know.
It's just overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yes, but you cannot do anything about it, because
they're like I'm okay still,yeah, I still have some health
left.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
So yeah, well, I think I think what people need
to do is, when they are jumpingaround from job to job, or or,
or, or, whatever it is, andthey're kind of seeking out what
looks best for them in theircareer, I think they should be
honest and honest with thepeople that are hiring them and
telling them that.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Well, they have to have it in their resume.
Yeah, that they quit so manyjobs or moved from.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
No, I know that they can show 15 jobs in a year.
I get that, but what I'm sayingis they should have.
They should also say I'mlooking for my career.
You know, this might last ayear, it might not.
So far I haven't found what I'mlooking for, and that should be
something that they should say,because companies don't hire
people to work for a smallamount of time.
You know, most companies hirepeople, and the training could
(18:10):
take a year, you know.
So I think it's important thatthey voice what they're looking
for in life and a career beforethey get hired.
Anyway, that's just me, though.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, on the other hand, employer can persuade the
employee to stay with them ifthey like them and, for example,
they want to go.
They can just give them whatthey want.
So they stay, right, right,usually it's money problem.
(18:42):
Usually, most of the time, itis a money problem because
you're basically doing the samething in another company, right?
So that's not a big deal.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Well, whoever pays more, gets more.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
On the other hand, okay, google was paying the most
, yeah, but they laid off like awhole bunch of people, yeah,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Well, it's it's competitive market out there
these days, all right.
Well, I'm Matthew Cote.
This is Foundation Nation,along with Daniel.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah, have a good day , guys.
Goodbye.
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