S4 - E7: Exploring Public Trust in Vaccines and The Healing Power of The 'Telephone of the Wind'.

What if the government had been more transparent about the COVID-19 vaccine from the start? How would that have shifted public trust?  Matthew Cote and Daniel tackle these questions head-on, unearthing the roots of the anti-vaxxer movement and the global crisis resulting from millions of children missing crucial vaccines. 

Venturing into a more comforting territory, we introduce you to the 'Telephone of the Wind' - a heartwarming installation nestled in a park in Olympia, WA. This symbolic communication channel allows individuals to voice their unspoken sentiments to their departed loved ones. Borrowing its concept from Japan, this telephone acts as a unique therapeutic outlet for those grappling with grief. So, join us as we navigate these compelling topics, sailing through the sea of information to offer you a fresh perspective.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello and welcome to Foundation Nation.
I'm your host, Matthew Cote,Along with Daniel.
We're both high school educated, masters of nothing and gifted
with the knowledge of wealth.
Today, on the podcast, we'regoing to talk about some
interesting recent goings-ons inour beautiful state and maybe
even a few things going on inthis amazing round thing we call
home.
Hello, I'm Matthew Cote, yourhost, Foundation Nation, along

(00:27):
with Daniel.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Hello, I'm Daniel, your co-host.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Well, welcome aboard this boat of information.
We're snug, like what?
No, no, we're not snug, we'restuck.
No, not stuck, we're stuffed.
No, we're cosied in underneaththe airport at SeaTac
International Airport doing somepodcasts today, listening to
the planes go by, I was thinkingyou know, cold season is coming

(00:54):
around.
It's almost cold, cold time totime for us all to get sick.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yep, yep, yep.
And the biggest problem thatAmerica is facing right now is
that, because of these forcedCOVID vaccinations, people are
losing trust in the vaccine.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Losing trust.
Yep, trust is hard to get andeasy to lose.
Ten years to get trust and fiveminutes to lose it forever.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yep, and the biggest problem was that they did not
release all the information onthe vaccine.
They did not release all theinformation on COVID itself and
because of all of that itcreated such a stir.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well, don't you think the internet kind of creates a
stir over anything?

Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yes and no.
What I believe is that the stirabout immunization was not
created by people.
It was created by governmentand they controlled every single
bit of information that goes onthe internet about the vaccine

(02:19):
and COVID itself, and that's whypeople were uninformed about
everything and they couldn'tmake their own decision to do
anything, because they did nothave enough information.
Now we do have that information.

(02:41):
However, the trust is lost.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
Hmm, according to UNICEF study, nearly 70 million
children globally have missedone or more critical vaccines,
in part because of decreasedconfidence in their efficiency.
So the parents think so,whatever they're doing, it's
decreasing the confidencewhether it works or not.

(03:06):
It's decreasing the confidencein the parents ability to make a
choice, whether it's healthyfor their kids or not.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Well, because of COVID, the whole line of
anti-vax life started.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Right.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
And the reason they are still surviving, the people
who don't do all of theseregular vaccines that are like
mandatory.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
The only reason they are still surviving and saying
see, my kids are not gettingsick is because the majority of
the population globally isvaccinated.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Right.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
And once there are enough people who are not
vaccinated not like one in amillion, but once it is 100,000,
then we are talking about quitesignificant pool of people that
can actually get sick with thatdisease.

(04:10):
That is 100% preventable.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Right yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Well, they had back when my old man was a kid.
They had polio and they gavepolio shots to them when they
were small, I think when theywere babies they would get a
polio shot and there was nopolio when my dad was a teenager
.
Pretty much it was kind ofwrapped up by then.

(04:38):
But my dad and his parents wereon vacation, working, and when
he was a baby and he didn't getthe polio vaccine, he has polio
From his knees down, his legsand feet are all messed up and
he missed the vaccine.
He just happened to get it andthey.

(04:58):
I don't really know how youcatch it or anything, but I know
that if he would have taken ithis life would be much different
.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Oh yeah, and on other hand, polio vaccine does have
side effects.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
What are the side?

Speaker 2 (05:16):
effects.
You can get crippled, basically, or you can lose half of your
body, from waist down.
You cannot even walk after that.
Oh, okay so, but it is wellknown and everybody knows about
all of this stuff On the covid.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
They still don't know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Don't know all the side effects and releasing a
vaccine without tests of anykind and saying that they did it
but in fact they did not, thatcreated a problem, right?
Yeah, lying to people, simplylying to people, that was a

(05:59):
worst move they could make.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, there is definitely something I don't
know.
Yeah, you know, actually Ithink there was lying going on,
but it just got so confusing forme.
You know, I didn't know whatwas up and what was down, I was
just completely confused.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Just tell people that this is a revolutionary vaccine
.
It is untested.
We don't know what's going tohappen, but we do believe that
it's going to work.
That's all you had to do.
Yeah, yeah but they didn't doit and they just tried to force

(06:34):
it by brutal force, which didnot help with the situation.

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Speaker 1 (06:55):
That brings me to my next thought, which is, if you
have a problem, why don't you goon a hike in the middle of a
damn nowhere somewhere inWashington and use the telephone
of the wind?
It's a telephone in Olympia'sSquawking Park and so this guy

(07:19):
had this idea of well, he justtook a phone at first and he
just screwed it to a tree askind of like, you know, kind of
a joke.
But now it's turned into thisthing where it's called the
telephone of the wind and thisphone is for everyone who has
lost a loved one.
The phone is an outlet forthose who have messages they

(07:40):
wish to share they're, you knowto their friends and family.
It's a phone for memories andsaying goodbyes.
You never got to say and it'skind of an art thing, but it's
also kind of a you know, I don'tknow right of passage or
something.
So if somebody passed away andyou, but they did it in such a
way you didn't get to sayanything, people go on this hike

(08:01):
up into the, you know, olympicsand they find a phone on a tree
and they talk into it to thatperson and it kind of it's
supposed to help, I guess.
Would that help you?

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Uh, I haven't been in such situation yet, yeah, but I
do see the uh, the benefits inthis because, uh, you can, if
you have such problem, yourtherapist will not be able to
help, even though, even if youtalk to a therapist about it,

(08:39):
it's still going to be talkingto a therapist instead of
expressing yourself to someoneyou want to express yourself to,
so it's it's not going to work.
You actually have to have aspecific situation and this
particular way is actuallyisolating you from all of this

(09:03):
stuff and putting you, puttingyou in a mood, right and, uh, in
circumstances that uh, probablyshould work.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, yeah, I was thinking.
I mean, you know you go on along hike and as you're hiking
you think about what you want tosay and whatever, and you go
get it off, your get it off yourchest and you know you're going
to be feeling a lot better.
So I suggest, if anybody hasany any issues like that you
know and uh, thankfully we,thankfully me and Daniel don't

(09:35):
but if you have any issues thatyou you know would need to speak
to someone that's passed awayand you have some last words
that you'd like to give them,you could go to the telephone of
the wind and go on the hikeit's not a really heavy hike and
you go up there and pick up thephone and say what you need to
say and probably feel a lotbetter.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, Uh, I mean uh, it is kind of interesting where
this idea originally came from.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, the Jap, japan, japanese yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Japanese when they lost so many uh loved ones in
the tsunami.
Mm-hmm, yeah, that was uh onedevastating tsunami and uh,
especially in a Japanese culture, they are grieving more about
their loved ones, right, and uh,it's just a cultural thing and

(10:22):
they had to cope with it somehow, and uh, this particular thing
was uh a really good measure touh bring uh people, uh people's
souls and peace.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, Go find the telephone and the wind.
I'm Matthew Cote host, alongwith my co-host, Daniel.
This is Foundation Nation.
Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Thank you for joining us.