February 12, 2024 • 18 mins
As AI takes the wheel in the political sphere, steering public perspective in unforeseen directions. The digital age has ushered in an era where counterfeits and truths are interwoven so tightly that distinguishing between them is like trying to separate threads in a tapestry. We'll guide you through this complex maze, examining how AI-generated content poses ethical dilemmas and challenges our trust in the public figures it can so easily mimic. Our dialogue ventures into the art of political subtleties, dissecting the craft behind words that veil more than they reveal.
Laugh and learn with us as we contrast the autonomous intricacies of a Tesla with the unassuming charm of a '69 Chevy, illustrating the vast web of connectivity that defines our era. We'll take you down memory lane with a nostalgic nod to a turkey-drop caper from yesteryear's television, extracting humor and insight from its cultural imprint.
Join Matt and Jay for a conversation where wisdom intertwines with wit, painting a portrait of our present reality.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello and welcome to Foundation Nation.
I'm your host, matthew Cote.
Today on the podcast we'regoing to talk about some
interesting recent goings-ons inour beautiful state and maybe
even a few things going on inthis amazing round thing we call
home.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello.
This is Matthew Cote, withFoundation Nation, along with
Jay.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Hello, this is Jay Salmi, owner of Jay Technology
Solutions and co-hosting today.
Let's start there for ValadyMatt.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Are we really here or are we AI?
That's what I want to know.
We're not even really here.
No, currently I'm at homesleeping.
What are you doing?
You're on Hawaiian Beach.
I'm on Hawaiian Beach havingfun with my wife and son.
Yeah, this is an AI podcasttoday.
Yes, being sponsored by therobotic pens that we bought last
(00:50):
week.
What do you think about AI?
I mean, I know the article Iwas reading.
Ai destabilizing the concept oftruth in our election is that?
That's definitely possible,right?
I've already seen weird AIthings happening on TV and I
(01:10):
could tell there's somethingwrong with their face and
they're famous people promotingstuff and then later on that
famous person's like I didn't dothat, I didn't promote that,
that wasn't me, it was theplausible deniability.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
So when what?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
First of all, what the hell is.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
AI, artificial intelligence.
It's like you know, I've heardof chapter GBT, right?
Yes, kind of the same thing.
You can request or ask thingsand it'll come up with the
information.
Artificial intelligence istaking the information it has
access to and it comes up withwhat it thinks you want.
Okay, right, does the internet?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
lie.
I think that's all it is right.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
No, no, no.
This is a simple yes or noquestion.
Does the internet lie?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So you know, the theory is if it can it yes.
The answer is no.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
The internet doesn't lie.
The internet never lies.
It's the people that put theinformation on the internet that
lies Got it.
That's like saying a book lies.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, On a table maybe.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Ah, yes, all right Dad joke, yes, the whole dad
joke, oh God.
So when you really get down tobrass fruits, the internet does
not lie.
Okay, I agree.
It's the information put intothe internet, right, like?
Will a child lie about whatcolor yellow is?
Yeah, not really.
Because if you tell a child,this is yellow, this is red,
(02:43):
this is blue, yellow, red, blue,yeah, if that yellow is
actually red and blue isactually green, they're lying,
right, because they're givenwrong information.
Sure, same thing with theinternet.
You give wrong information onthe internet, people will think
it's true, right?
So AI is just another form ofthat, in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So people are using AI to lie?
Is that what you're?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
saying yeah, people use anything and everything to
lie, yeah, yeah, I just.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You know, if I was a, I guess there's a lot of things
, but if I was a movie actor andthey were making fake of me to
promote products, that would be,you know, that would suck right
Because that would devalue yourface and your acting and your
career.
That'd be very scary.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But then the recourse is how do you prove it was a
lie?
Yeah, because you got you withtechnology and everyone learning
things so quickly and easilythese days, uh-huh, you know,
you have so many things and youwho wouldn't really know, you'd
really have to find someonewho's a pro, who's a guru,
(03:52):
whatever word you want to use atthat, to figure out if it had
been fake.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Oh sure yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
You've seen Tango and Cash, right?
Yeah, yeah, Talking about amovie from ages ago right, yeah,
that was a great movie.
So in there, the Tango and Cashwere set up Right, there was a
tape of their recording withtheir voices.
Right, they were given anexpert to validate if that tape
was an actual factual recording.
Right, he said, yes, it's real.
Yeah, he was the one who fakedit.
(04:18):
Yeah, so you just I mean it'sbeen going on for, and then
they're on the run.
Yeah, it's been going on fordecades with faking digital or
even taped information.
Sure, this is just a newplatform for it, right, yeah, so
destabilizing the politicalconcept?
Oh my goodness, that is a.
(04:42):
When has political constructnot been destabilized?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
by something you know and I feel like the rule to be
in politics is you're the bestsalesman there ever, the best
bullshitter there ever was.
You know, I mean it's just thecraziest thing.
It's like very close to being aweatherman.
Yeah, it's going to raintomorrow.
It doesn't rain, it's sunny.
He still has got a job.
You know, politicians are rightup there.
You know, it's just they shouldbe thankful every day for their
(05:08):
jobs.
Honestly, I mean, it's just sayone thing and do something
completely different.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I mean, who believes any politician anymore when they
say no new taxes or we will notraise taxes, right, so no new
taxes.
They kept their word, they justraised taxes, the existing ones
went to the real.
When they say no, we will notraise taxes.
They did not raise any taxes,they added new ones, Right?
So there is truth in what theysay to a certain extent, Right,
(05:35):
Right?
So if a politician says no newtaxes and we will not raise
taxes, that's going to throw ared flag in my book anyway you
know lying.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
You know there's one, there's many forms of lying,
but omission a lot of peopledon't feel like that's lying.
Omission, you know like.
So I know something about thefacts that I've told you that
make it not accurate.
But I'm not telling that to you, right, and that's kind of like
.
That's kind of the gamepoliticians plays.
They know the whole story, theygive you 98% of it, but the 2%
(06:08):
changes the whole goddamn story.
Right, you know, and that'skind of like how I look at
politicians and the way theyoperate.
You know, it's just right onthe edge of just enough, but not
enough, you know.
And then I don't know, but nowyou got this, this new, you got
a bunch of old guys.
You know, in politics,politician-y shit, whatever the
(06:29):
politics.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Where did you come up with that?
They're amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, so the world of politics has old guys and a
very high tech scenario insertedinto the, you know, the
election world, right?
So I mean, what it makes methink?
It makes me think was that shitwith Trump and the Russian and
the election Did that?
Maybe there was something therethat kind of went a little
(06:52):
kooky when he got elected, youknow, as far as like computer-y
stuff, you know and and all that, but I don't, I don't.
I mean, if they're so worriedabout it, just go back to paper
ballots.
Why do we even do electricity?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
We can't count paper ballots correctly.
Do not remember from-.
No, I know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I know.
But maybe we just make theareas small.
You know, make more areas ofballots.
You know so like per 100,000,you know so like this area can
collect 100,000 ballots andthat's it.
And then you go to another areaand that area can collect and
then you have enough workforceto count them, or something
(07:34):
along those lines.
You know kind of like break itinto smaller pockets or pieces
or something, I don't know.
But if it's so goddamnimportant, I feel like they
could do it a different way.
But you know, when there's awhen there's a better way, and
they don't do it, it makes mewonder like how is what?
Is what the hell is going on?
You know.
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Speaker 2 (08:13):
I do think the there is probably a way to where we
should be able to vote on ourphones, and if they could get
that locked down and truthful,you know to where we can go and
vote for everybody on an app onour phone and that's like really
safe, that would be great.
It would get more people votingand then we'd actually have
more of what everyone wants.
(08:33):
That's the goal, right.
You want everybody to vote.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Want everybody to vote, but you cannot make
everybody happy.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
No, no, you can't, but so AI wants to.
What Like?
Who's running AI in this worldright now?
Who's got their fingertips onAI?
I read recently Elon Musk saidhimself that he currently knows
more information in one headthan anybody in the world in the
history of the world Because ofyou know kind of how he's
(09:02):
operating life and what he hasat his resources to kind of see
how the world's working andstuff.
But who's got their?
Who's got their?
Is somebody controlling?
Is it one, a team, a lot a?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
company.
You know, I really have notlooked into that, but I highly
doubt it's just one person orone team.
I'm sure it's a collectiveamount of intelligent.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I used the word loosely.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
There's a whole team of people disperse all across
the world.
It's not just someone inNebraska or something you know.
Right, right, there's gonna bepeople collaborating and doing
things all around the world, allthe different countries, yeah,
working on it and trying to makeit better and make it work.
Yeah, the unfortunate part isyou're always gonna have someone
(09:51):
that doesn't put informationincorrectly or goes rogue.
Yeah, you're always gonna go onrogue.
Right, it's a sad story, butit's true.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
You know what it kind of reminds me.
Did you by any chance seeOppenheimer?
Watch that movie?
No, yeah, well, so it's about,you know, it's about the
creation of the Nika bomb atomicbomb, okay, and it kind of
leads all the way up to all thesmart minds, einstein and all
these guys getting togetherbuilding a base in California or
(10:23):
somewhere and then eventuallyat the end dropping bombs on
Nagasaki and Hiroshima, you know, and End of the War and stuff,
and it's just I kind of comparethe AI movement to that.
You know, a lot of smart peoplecoming together doing something
really good, but the outcome iskind of sort of scary.
Yeah, I don't know if that'syou know, I'm just kind of
(10:45):
waiting for the internet to goout.
I feel like that's our next bigthing the internet goes out.
How are you gonna do creditcard processing, you know, and
pay your bills?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
The internet goes out and the world is messed up.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah.
So I kind of feel like we'renot prepared for that.
And that's the next big, youknow kind of shake the society
is gonna get, at least in theUnited States.
Right, you know you can haveall the bug out equipment and
bullets and guns and bottles ofmilk and shit, but when the
internet goes out it's gonna be.
You know, that's our primarycommunication area there.
(11:20):
So I'm curious to see how it'sall gonna go down when the
internet goes out.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
But Can you imagine if the internet went out and
then all these cars that dependon the internet in order to do
anything?
Yeah, I'm not just talkingelectric cars, right, I'm
talking even gas guzzlers.
Yeah, they still needinformation from the internet,
maybe not to drive daily, but towork on them.
Yeah, you need information, youknow so when they break down,
(11:45):
you need that.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, maybe they have something in them that goes
like internet goes out, you goback to the factory.
Maybe that's in them.
I bet Elon did that.
Internet goes out worldwide formore than two days.
All Tesla's report back to thefactory, right Holy shit.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Then one of my two cars will just be gone, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
And where are you going, young man?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, exactly, I'm going back to daddy yeah,
there's, you know.
Our other car, as I said before, is a 69 Chevalt.
Yes, so who cares if theinternet or anything goes?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
out.
Yeah, she's working.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
You just fire it up and go.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah Well, just like my 72 Chevy.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah, exactly, is that a?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
thing Screwdriver, gas and air.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
that's all I need, yeah yeah, exactly, there's
something nostalgic about it,yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
And.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I understand, not everyone is a DIY person or
works on cars or does anythingwith their hands.
I get that, but you know, whenthe rarity that I work on that
Cheval, yeah, you feel connected, yeah, and that's the thing,
and it's real.
Yeah, that is is such intheiada, in welcome and message
(12:52):
Okay, a fake, real Right, soit's real information.
If you give it real, factualinformation, what are the still
faith, so what?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
are the top, let's go .
Let's go.
Four things Top two things thatcan do negatively.
Top two things that can dopositively in your opinion.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Negatively.
Oh, it could ruin someone forlife in a heartbeat.
Yeah, because of wronginformation, yeah.
Another thing and do negativelyis um, oh my goodness, so many
people look up information todiagnose themselves when they're
not feeling well.
Oh yeah, oh my goodness.
So not only are you not feelingwell, but then you find out
that you're dying, yeah, andthen you go to the doctor and
(13:30):
say I got all this going on inthe internet.
Oh yeah, ai says I'm dyingbecause of this.
And the doctor looks at you andgoes you have a cold?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, Take an aspirin .
Go to bed.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, there's various versions of a cold and some of
the symptoms, you know so.
But for positively, um, it canhelp you write an essay.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Oh, I can write a story.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
So it can help you.
You can say I need informationon the war of 1812.
Okay, which, there are two ofthem.
Yeah, so the war of 1812, youknow, and it's sort of giving
you information, yeah, you know.
And then another positive thingis, hey, I need information on
how to um book a vacation to theCaribbean.
(14:14):
Oh, yeah, you know, and you say, hey, I'm looking for this,
this and this, and then boom, itstarts by relating information.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
So if I wanted it to create an itinerary for a
vacation, could it?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
do that.
I don't know if it can do thatper se, but it can give you a
lot of information onitineraries.
Okay, now, keep in mind, peopleare part of the internet.
People are putting theinformation in.
So when you get the information, be smart about what you're
reading and you know, thinkabout it.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Can these things do math.
Can it do math?
Oh yeah, yeah, I can do math.
Okay, that's cool.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Shoot, you can ask your phone right now to do a
math equation and it'll pop offthe answer for you, and it'll be
accurate.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Oh yeah, that's cool, that's cool.
Well, what are you lookingforward to this month?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
January.
Let's see.
Um, personally, just I don'tknow.
You know I'm in Taekwondo and Ijust took my next belt test.
Are you a?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Taekwondo bird.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
No.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Remember those from Ice Age.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Taekwondo ninjas.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Taekwondo, but I should be getting my next belt
here in the next week or two.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
So you have to do form and test.
I already did it, you alreadydid it, so you're just waiting
around.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I'm just waiting for my belt to show up and get the
certificate, so I'm lookingforward to that.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
That's cool, good job .
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Congratulations.
But what I'm?
I brought that up as a prequel.
What I'm really looking forwardto is I help out in the
beginner classes for the kids.
Oh, okay, and you wind up beingvested when you help them,
right.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Oh sure.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I've been helping for over six months now and I can.
I'm still going to continuedoing it and I'm looking forward
to when they get their belts.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh yeah, because seeing your students succeed is
really Seeing the ones that Ihelp.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
They're not my students.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
They're my students, but people you helped.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
But I help people.
I help them, see them succeedand actually get their next belt
.
That's cool.
And there's probably about adozen of them that are getting
their yellow belts, which meansthey come into the class my
son's in now.
Oh that's cool.
They move up to the next levelof classes.
That's cool.
So that'll be neat.
So I won't be helping them, butI'll still see them twice a
(16:18):
week.
That's cool, that's cool.
So that's what I'm lookingforward to.
That's so many people measuresuccess with money, career right
, you know, whatever, and youknow what?
I'm still old school.
Yeah, success can be measuredin family, right, and leaving a
legacy.
Yep, and I'm not just talkingmoney and business and
(16:40):
everything Right, right, youknow.
And I find success not only inwhat I do with my family, yeah,
but now that I'm part of a dojoyou know where we're.
Do, take one dough.
I feel success in helping theyounger kids, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's a super positive thing, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
It's it brings, brings a smile to my face and
heart.
Yeah, no, that's great.
That's great.
What are you looking forward tothis month?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Skiing and going to see my son on the base Nice,
which base?
He's a Wright Patterson.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, it's, I think it's KRP.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah yeah.
If you watch that episode, doyou ever see the episode where
the turkeys fall from the sky?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Oh, I'm sure I have, but it's been a while, Dude
watch that episode.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That shit is funny.
Those guys, the radio guysdriving around the city in
Cincinnati and turkeys startfalling out of the sky and the
guy that's thrown the turkeysout didn't know the turkeys
can't fly and they're just likebam, bam, dead turkeys
everywhere and he's like I hadno idea they couldn't fly.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
So funny.
So funny stuff you can't donowadays, I know, without
getting in serious trouble.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, I think those might have been a couple of real
turkeys there.
I hope not.
Yeah, so all right.
Well, I'm Matthew Cote.
This is Foundation Nation.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Jay Solme, nice to have this chat again today, matt
.
All right, see you guys.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
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Hello and welcome to Foundation Nation.
I'm your host, matthew Cote.
Today on the podcast we'regoing to talk about some
interesting recent goings-ons inour beautiful state and maybe
even a few things going on inthis amazing round thing we call
home.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello.
This is Matthew Cote, withFoundation Nation, along with
Jay.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Hello, this is Jay Salmi, owner of Jay Technology
Solutions and co-hosting today.
Let's start there for ValadyMatt.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Are we really here or are we AI?
That's what I want to know.
We're not even really here.
No, currently I'm at homesleeping.
What are you doing?
You're on Hawaiian Beach.
I'm on Hawaiian Beach havingfun with my wife and son.
Yeah, this is an AI podcasttoday.
Yes, being sponsored by therobotic pens that we bought last
(00:50):
week.
What do you think about AI?
I mean, I know the article Iwas reading.
Ai destabilizing the concept oftruth in our election is that?
That's definitely possible,right?
I've already seen weird AIthings happening on TV and I
(01:10):
could tell there's somethingwrong with their face and
they're famous people promotingstuff and then later on that
famous person's like I didn't dothat, I didn't promote that,
that wasn't me, it was theplausible deniability.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
So when what?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
First of all, what the hell is.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
AI, artificial intelligence.
It's like you know, I've heardof chapter GBT, right?
Yes, kind of the same thing.
You can request or ask thingsand it'll come up with the
information.
Artificial intelligence istaking the information it has
access to and it comes up withwhat it thinks you want.
Okay, right, does the internet?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
lie.
I think that's all it is right.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
No, no, no.
This is a simple yes or noquestion.
Does the internet lie?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So you know, the theory is if it can it yes.
The answer is no.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
The internet doesn't lie.
The internet never lies.
It's the people that put theinformation on the internet that
lies Got it.
That's like saying a book lies.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, On a table maybe.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Ah, yes, all right Dad joke, yes, the whole dad
joke, oh God.
So when you really get down tobrass fruits, the internet does
not lie.
Okay, I agree.
It's the information put intothe internet, right, like?
Will a child lie about whatcolor yellow is?
Yeah, not really.
Because if you tell a child,this is yellow, this is red,
(02:43):
this is blue, yellow, red, blue,yeah, if that yellow is
actually red and blue isactually green, they're lying,
right, because they're givenwrong information.
Sure, same thing with theinternet.
You give wrong information onthe internet, people will think
it's true, right?
So AI is just another form ofthat, in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So people are using AI to lie?
Is that what you're?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
saying yeah, people use anything and everything to
lie, yeah, yeah, I just.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You know, if I was a, I guess there's a lot of things
, but if I was a movie actor andthey were making fake of me to
promote products, that would be,you know, that would suck right
Because that would devalue yourface and your acting and your
career.
That'd be very scary.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
But then the recourse is how do you prove it was a
lie?
Yeah, because you got you withtechnology and everyone learning
things so quickly and easilythese days, uh-huh, you know,
you have so many things and youwho wouldn't really know, you'd
really have to find someonewho's a pro, who's a guru,
(03:52):
whatever word you want to use atthat, to figure out if it had
been fake.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Oh sure yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
You've seen Tango and Cash, right?
Yeah, yeah, Talking about amovie from ages ago right, yeah,
that was a great movie.
So in there, the Tango and Cashwere set up Right, there was a
tape of their recording withtheir voices.
Right, they were given anexpert to validate if that tape
was an actual factual recording.
Right, he said, yes, it's real.
Yeah, he was the one who fakedit.
(04:18):
Yeah, so you just I mean it'sbeen going on for, and then
they're on the run.
Yeah, it's been going on fordecades with faking digital or
even taped information.
Sure, this is just a newplatform for it, right, yeah, so
destabilizing the politicalconcept?
Oh my goodness, that is a.
(04:42):
When has political constructnot been destabilized?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
by something you know and I feel like the rule to be
in politics is you're the bestsalesman there ever, the best
bullshitter there ever was.
You know, I mean it's just thecraziest thing.
It's like very close to being aweatherman.
Yeah, it's going to raintomorrow.
It doesn't rain, it's sunny.
He still has got a job.
You know, politicians are rightup there.
You know, it's just they shouldbe thankful every day for their
(05:08):
jobs.
Honestly, I mean, it's just sayone thing and do something
completely different.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I mean, who believes any politician anymore when they
say no new taxes or we will notraise taxes, right, so no new
taxes.
They kept their word, they justraised taxes, the existing ones
went to the real.
When they say no, we will notraise taxes.
They did not raise any taxes,they added new ones, Right?
So there is truth in what theysay to a certain extent, Right,
(05:35):
Right?
So if a politician says no newtaxes and we will not raise
taxes, that's going to throw ared flag in my book anyway you
know lying.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
You know there's one, there's many forms of lying,
but omission a lot of peopledon't feel like that's lying.
Omission, you know like.
So I know something about thefacts that I've told you that
make it not accurate.
But I'm not telling that to you, right, and that's kind of like
.
That's kind of the gamepoliticians plays.
They know the whole story, theygive you 98% of it, but the 2%
(06:08):
changes the whole goddamn story.
Right, you know, and that'skind of like how I look at
politicians and the way theyoperate.
You know, it's just right onthe edge of just enough, but not
enough, you know.
And then I don't know, but nowyou got this, this new, you got
a bunch of old guys.
You know, in politics,politician-y shit, whatever the
(06:29):
politics.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Where did you come up with that?
They're amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, so the world of politics has old guys and a
very high tech scenario insertedinto the, you know, the
election world, right?
So I mean, what it makes methink?
It makes me think was that shitwith Trump and the Russian and
the election Did that?
Maybe there was something therethat kind of went a little
(06:52):
kooky when he got elected, youknow, as far as like computer-y
stuff, you know and and all that, but I don't, I don't.
I mean, if they're so worriedabout it, just go back to paper
ballots.
Why do we even do electricity?
Speaker 3 (07:07):
We can't count paper ballots correctly.
Do not remember from-.
No, I know, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I know.
But maybe we just make theareas small.
You know, make more areas ofballots.
You know so like per 100,000,you know so like this area can
collect 100,000 ballots andthat's it.
And then you go to another areaand that area can collect and
then you have enough workforceto count them, or something
(07:34):
along those lines.
You know kind of like break itinto smaller pockets or pieces
or something, I don't know.
But if it's so goddamnimportant, I feel like they
could do it a different way.
But you know, when there's awhen there's a better way, and
they don't do it, it makes mewonder like how is what?
Is what the hell is going on?
You know.
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Speaker 2 (08:13):
I do think the there is probably a way to where we
should be able to vote on ourphones, and if they could get
that locked down and truthful,you know to where we can go and
vote for everybody on an app onour phone and that's like really
safe, that would be great.
It would get more people votingand then we'd actually have
more of what everyone wants.
(08:33):
That's the goal, right.
You want everybody to vote.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Want everybody to vote, but you cannot make
everybody happy.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
No, no, you can't, but so AI wants to.
What Like?
Who's running AI in this worldright now?
Who's got their fingertips onAI?
I read recently Elon Musk saidhimself that he currently knows
more information in one headthan anybody in the world in the
history of the world Because ofyou know kind of how he's
(09:02):
operating life and what he hasat his resources to kind of see
how the world's working andstuff.
But who's got their?
Who's got their?
Is somebody controlling?
Is it one, a team, a lot a?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
company.
You know, I really have notlooked into that, but I highly
doubt it's just one person orone team.
I'm sure it's a collectiveamount of intelligent.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I used the word loosely.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
There's a whole team of people disperse all across
the world.
It's not just someone inNebraska or something you know.
Right, right, there's gonna bepeople collaborating and doing
things all around the world, allthe different countries, yeah,
working on it and trying to makeit better and make it work.
Yeah, the unfortunate part isyou're always gonna have someone
(09:51):
that doesn't put informationincorrectly or goes rogue.
Yeah, you're always gonna go onrogue.
Right, it's a sad story, butit's true.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
You know what it kind of reminds me.
Did you by any chance seeOppenheimer?
Watch that movie?
No, yeah, well, so it's about,you know, it's about the
creation of the Nika bomb atomicbomb, okay, and it kind of
leads all the way up to all thesmart minds, einstein and all
these guys getting togetherbuilding a base in California or
(10:23):
somewhere and then eventuallyat the end dropping bombs on
Nagasaki and Hiroshima, you know, and End of the War and stuff,
and it's just I kind of comparethe AI movement to that.
You know, a lot of smart peoplecoming together doing something
really good, but the outcome iskind of sort of scary.
Yeah, I don't know if that'syou know, I'm just kind of
(10:45):
waiting for the internet to goout.
I feel like that's our next bigthing the internet goes out.
How are you gonna do creditcard processing, you know, and
pay your bills?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
The internet goes out and the world is messed up.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah.
So I kind of feel like we'renot prepared for that.
And that's the next big, youknow kind of shake the society
is gonna get, at least in theUnited States.
Right, you know you can haveall the bug out equipment and
bullets and guns and bottles ofmilk and shit, but when the
internet goes out it's gonna be.
You know, that's our primarycommunication area there.
(11:20):
So I'm curious to see how it'sall gonna go down when the
internet goes out.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
But Can you imagine if the internet went out and
then all these cars that dependon the internet in order to do
anything?
Yeah, I'm not just talkingelectric cars, right, I'm
talking even gas guzzlers.
Yeah, they still needinformation from the internet,
maybe not to drive daily, but towork on them.
Yeah, you need information, youknow so when they break down,
(11:45):
you need that.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, maybe they have something in them that goes
like internet goes out, you goback to the factory.
Maybe that's in them.
I bet Elon did that.
Internet goes out worldwide formore than two days.
All Tesla's report back to thefactory, right Holy shit.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Then one of my two cars will just be gone, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
And where are you going, young man?
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Yeah, exactly, I'm going back to daddy yeah,
there's, you know.
Our other car, as I said before, is a 69 Chevalt.
Yes, so who cares if theinternet or anything goes?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
out.
Yeah, she's working.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
You just fire it up and go.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah Well, just like my 72 Chevy.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Yeah, exactly, is that a?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
thing Screwdriver, gas and air.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
that's all I need, yeah yeah, exactly, there's
something nostalgic about it,yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
And.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I understand, not everyone is a DIY person or
works on cars or does anythingwith their hands.
I get that, but you know, whenthe rarity that I work on that
Cheval, yeah, you feel connected, yeah, and that's the thing,
and it's real.
Yeah, that is is such intheiada, in welcome and message
(12:52):
Okay, a fake, real Right, soit's real information.
If you give it real, factualinformation, what are the still
faith, so what?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
are the top, let's go .
Let's go.
Four things Top two things thatcan do negatively.
Top two things that can dopositively in your opinion.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Negatively.
Oh, it could ruin someone forlife in a heartbeat.
Yeah, because of wronginformation, yeah.
Another thing and do negativelyis um, oh my goodness, so many
people look up information todiagnose themselves when they're
not feeling well.
Oh yeah, oh my goodness.
So not only are you not feelingwell, but then you find out
that you're dying, yeah, andthen you go to the doctor and
(13:30):
say I got all this going on inthe internet.
Oh yeah, ai says I'm dyingbecause of this.
And the doctor looks at you andgoes you have a cold?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yeah, Take an aspirin .
Go to bed.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, there's various versions of a cold and some of
the symptoms, you know so.
But for positively, um, it canhelp you write an essay.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Oh, I can write a story.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
So it can help you.
You can say I need informationon the war of 1812.
Okay, which, there are two ofthem.
Yeah, so the war of 1812, youknow, and it's sort of giving
you information, yeah, you know.
And then another positive thingis, hey, I need information on
how to um book a vacation to theCaribbean.
(14:14):
Oh, yeah, you know, and you say, hey, I'm looking for this,
this and this, and then boom, itstarts by relating information.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
So if I wanted it to create an itinerary for a
vacation, could it?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
do that.
I don't know if it can do thatper se, but it can give you a
lot of information onitineraries.
Okay, now, keep in mind, peopleare part of the internet.
People are putting theinformation in.
So when you get the information, be smart about what you're
reading and you know, thinkabout it.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Can these things do math.
Can it do math?
Oh yeah, yeah, I can do math.
Okay, that's cool.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Shoot, you can ask your phone right now to do a
math equation and it'll pop offthe answer for you, and it'll be
accurate.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Oh yeah, that's cool, that's cool.
Well, what are you lookingforward to this month?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
January.
Let's see.
Um, personally, just I don'tknow.
You know I'm in Taekwondo and Ijust took my next belt test.
Are you a?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Taekwondo bird.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
No.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Remember those from Ice Age.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Taekwondo ninjas.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Taekwondo, but I should be getting my next belt
here in the next week or two.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
So you have to do form and test.
I already did it, you alreadydid it, so you're just waiting
around.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I'm just waiting for my belt to show up and get the
certificate, so I'm lookingforward to that.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
That's cool, good job .
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Congratulations.
But what I'm?
I brought that up as a prequel.
What I'm really looking forwardto is I help out in the
beginner classes for the kids.
Oh, okay, and you wind up beingvested when you help them,
right.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Oh sure.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I've been helping for over six months now and I can.
I'm still going to continuedoing it and I'm looking forward
to when they get their belts.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Oh yeah, because seeing your students succeed is
really Seeing the ones that Ihelp.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
They're not my students.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
They're my students, but people you helped.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
But I help people.
I help them, see them succeedand actually get their next belt
.
That's cool.
And there's probably about adozen of them that are getting
their yellow belts, which meansthey come into the class my
son's in now.
Oh that's cool.
They move up to the next levelof classes.
That's cool.
So that'll be neat.
So I won't be helping them, butI'll still see them twice a
(16:18):
week.
That's cool, that's cool.
So that's what I'm lookingforward to.
That's so many people measuresuccess with money, career right
, you know, whatever, and youknow what?
I'm still old school.
Yeah, success can be measuredin family, right, and leaving a
legacy.
Yep, and I'm not just talkingmoney and business and
(16:40):
everything Right, right, youknow.
And I find success not only inwhat I do with my family, yeah,
but now that I'm part of a dojoyou know where we're.
Do, take one dough.
I feel success in helping theyounger kids, oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's a super positive thing, yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
It's it brings, brings a smile to my face and
heart.
Yeah, no, that's great.
That's great.
What are you looking forward tothis month?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Skiing and going to see my son on the base Nice,
which base?
He's a Wright Patterson.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, it's, I think it's KRP.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah yeah.
If you watch that episode, doyou ever see the episode where
the turkeys fall from the sky?
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Oh, I'm sure I have, but it's been a while, Dude
watch that episode.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
That shit is funny.
Those guys, the radio guysdriving around the city in
Cincinnati and turkeys startfalling out of the sky and the
guy that's thrown the turkeysout didn't know the turkeys
can't fly and they're just likebam, bam, dead turkeys
everywhere and he's like I hadno idea they couldn't fly.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
So funny.
So funny stuff you can't donowadays, I know, without
getting in serious trouble.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Yeah, I think those might have been a couple of real
turkeys there.
I hope not.
Yeah, so all right.
Well, I'm Matthew Cote.
This is Foundation Nation.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Jay Solme, nice to have this chat again today, matt
.
All right, see you guys.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
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