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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello and welcome to
Foundation Nation.
I'm your host, matthew Cote.
Today on the podcast we'regoing to talk about some
interesting recent goings-ons inour beautiful state and maybe
even a few things going on inthis amazing round thing we call
home.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello, welcome to
Foundation Nation.
I'm Matthew Cote.
Along with my guest on thismini-series.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
My name is Nate
Jester.
I'm a mentalist here in Seattleand I entertain private parties
and corporate events.
Thanks for having me Awesome.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
I'm glad you're here.
We've been spending this littlemini-series talking about magic
coming to the United States,magic and magic and mentalism
and mentalists.
What do you call two mentalistsMentalists?
What do you call one mentalistA mentalist?
(00:51):
Is that, like Legos, there'snot even a word Legos, it's only
Lego, one Lego, lego, a billionLegos, lego.
Do you know that?
I just found that out.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Oh, okay, yeah, I
would have called them Legos.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, no, you know,
look at all those Lego Lego,
yeah, interesting.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Okay, according to
the Lego Engineers article that
I read, I'm going to have tocorrect the terminology around
my house with the kids.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah, hey, pick up
all those Lego.
Don't cry.
It's hard to stop and not dropthe S I'm gonna stick with Legos
, yeah, for instance yeah.
I'm like speaking wrong anyway.
So what's been going on?
What are you and the familybeen up to these days?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Working.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Working.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I'm working, kids are
busy with school.
My oldest is in La Crosse,which is awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
La Crosse is.
My boys are in that too.
Yeah, that is fun to watch.
Yeah, have you been to any ofthe events yet?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
He's like three
practices in his first high
school sport.
Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
That's cool.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Wait till you go and
you see somebody like high stick
them.
Yeah, I played ice hockey.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I'm telling you I'm
like it's gonna hurt but you're
gonna love it.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, you're gonna
get the pain.
Amps you up, oh man.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
You're gonna get.
You get out all your anger,your frustration, and then you
go home and sleep like a bear.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah yeah, and wake
up all crickly and cracked like
old men, yeah yeah, that's why Ilike it, yeah, so I wanted to
talk a little bit about some ofthe more intense mental.
Well, actually I want to do too.
I want to talk about magictricks and mentalism, some of
the, some of the like how someshit that kind of blew your mind
(02:31):
and you're maybe even still tothis day like how the hell.
So let's start with a couple ofmagic tricks that you've
encountered in your life thatare kind of like interesting or
challenging, or you questionedor just straight up, blew your
mind.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, so earlier on,
my mind would be blown years ago
.
I've been doing this for 32years, 32 years, 32 years, god
damn.
I don't even say that on mywebsite anymore, because it
sounds too old.
I just said 20 plus yearsexperience.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I'm old, I'm good,
call me.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Those young Gen.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Z years are like how
old is this guy?
Yeah, yeah, how is this yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Like I said, I
started when I was 12.
So that's when my mind would beblown.
But it's like, think of it thisway a concert pianist or a chef
yeah you know walk into arestaurant and just be like, oh
my God, oh my God, what did youdo?
Like I have no idea.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Or what that song?
How in the hell do you do that?
They wouldn't necessarily havethat point of view.
Yeah, they've been doing it solong.
You know techniques, somethingnew and innovative comes around.
But you're just.
You appreciate the variety, thefreshness, the skill, the
creativity, the development.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, so that's
largely where I am, and that's
what I really like to see.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So give me an
experience that you've run to
say in the last two years.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I hired a consultant
to work with me.
He worked with DavidCopperfield and David Blaine and
he's not a performer.
He would create tricks andthat's what he did.
For these guys is, when you gettop level like that, they
usually work with consultantslike David Blaine, like I said,
and they help them createillusions and stuff.
(04:22):
So he blew my mind on justthought processes that he shared
with me that essentially, in myopinion, enabled me to tap into
these guys mine, copperfield,blaine and others, damn yeah,
and dine them over.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
You know, in Europe
Is Copperfield and Blaine.
Are they mentalists ormagicians, or what do they say
they are?
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I think they're both
magicians, magicians okay, some
magicians can do mentalism.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, sure Can do
mental and vice versa, right?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
just went full on just because I
love how impossible it is.
I actually grew.
I kinda I don't wanna say Idislike magic, it just I think
the audience is too smart.
There's a trick that isprobably one of the most popular
(05:12):
tricks and if you've seen them,if you're listening right now
and you've been to a party wherea magician did a trick recently
in the last 10 years- Is it theknife with the orange and the
money inside?
Oh, there's that, there's that.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I know how that works
.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
So do I.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I see something with
my eye one time.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Yeah, so there's a
trick where a magician will take
out like a bunch of ones andthen flick them and then there
are hundreds.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, all right.
Yeah, so Come to my house, baby.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
So my opinion is
that's amazing.
Excuse me, that's the majorityof everyone's opinion and I used
to like that trick.
Sure, I won't ever do it again.
No, I don't like it.
Shit Nowadays, I can't stand it.
It's driving you crazy.
Well, I think, well, I wannagive away anything.
But if you could really do that, what would life be like?
(06:07):
Yeah, right, okay, yeah, sowhat I prefer to do?
So I believe, when you walkhome, when you go away, when you
drive home from that and youthink of the possibilities, the
illusion gets weaker.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Sure, or try to like
resolve it in your mind.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Like, if you're
listening right now, I mean
think about it.
How could that be done?
It looks like a miracle.
It looks like water into wine amiracle.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
And you're saying
thinking like that is not good,
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
The more you think,
you conceptualize it and you re,
if you just watch that and yougo home, you're driving home,
you go to bed and you thinkabout it, I think it gets weaker
.
Okay For a thought-provokingperson, okay, somebody who is
interested and attentive Okay.
So my audience.
What I show them is mentalism,where the longer you think about
(06:55):
it, the stronger it gets.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
The opposite.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
You'll go home and if
you saw what I did and you were
there in the experience, yeah,it's the opposite.
It just it's so unbelievablethat it just gets stronger and
stronger.
And that's yeah, people aretalking about it at the water
cooler they're talking about itat the board meeting.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
The printer, the next
week.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, the printer.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
When I'm printing my
ass G when I'm.
It's the only reason I go there.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Hey, it's your
business, yeah, whatever.
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Speaker 2 (07:43):
Is there a tr?
Well, ok, so I want to know twothings Is there a magic trick?
What is considered the mostimpossible magic trick that's
not completed or not done or notperformed?
Is there anything like that outthere?
Oh, man, or mentalism, is theresomebody out there that's going
some day?
(08:03):
I'm going to make Mount Rainiera peer in Everett Is there some
shit out there that people talkabout in the community of your
industry, at their hands or fromyour você, or just like
somebody's gonna do it someday,kind of thing?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
There's not a
pinnacle like that, but there is
an entire industry where thereare creators creating illusions,
where we purchased them.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Okay, so what is
their top of the pyramid?
What are they going for?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
So not necessarily
mentalist, mentalist error.
More on technique, right Okay.
So we're less prop oriented,right Okay.
So you like shaving your armsand stuff, aren't you oh yeah,
yeah, not quite so a magician?
You could buy props.
You could buy gimmicks andstuff.
That's what we call them.
So a lot of people ask me how amagician would learn the tricks
(08:54):
.
It's an entire industry, justlike the medical industry.
Oh, okay, there are.
The second biggest conventionin the world is in Las Vegas.
It's called Magic Live.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I don't know this.
Can anybody go to it?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
I believe.
So yeah, if you pay for it.
But anybody can learn magicbasic level stuff.
You can just research it onYouTube.
And we thought kind of like oh,they're giving away secrets and
they are, but it pushes pros todo better stuff.
But it's just the drive.
If you have the drive to go reada book and figure it out.
Watch a video.
Chances are you'll understandhalf of it and then in a certain
(09:33):
amount of time, you'll forgetit.
So it really doesn't do much.
But ideally, if you're like me,you're doing stuff they can't
be Googled.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Which if you wanna
check me out and see what I'm
doing, what I'm about, so I gotvideos on my channel.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
You had some kind of
viral video.
Yeah, what was the video about?
What's the name of the video?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
It was, believe it or
not, it was a card trick People
listening, they might have seenit.
It went viral this last week.
It got 32 million views onYouTube.
Yeah, get some, it was crazy.
It was crazy.
I had all these YouTuberscontacting me.
That's cool.
It was an amazing experience.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
That's cool, and so
what is the title?
If they were gonna search it onYouTube, what would they search
for?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
So you can type in my
name Nate Jester.
Okay, unshuffled, and it'sactually a YouTube short, so a
short.
If you don't know what that is,it's a video that's under 60
seconds.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
And it's in a video
vertical format.
So Nate Jester, unshuffledmarked cards, like I said, under
60 seconds You'll see the views.
It's people connected with it.
I was surprised, I was kind ofI thought it would be light and
it took off and people.
It touched a lot of people, itwas pleasant.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
That's cool, that's
cool.
Okay, so what do you learn innext?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Right now I'm working
on well.
I'm going out to Mississippinext week and I'll be doing a
news appearance.
How do you spell Mississippi,M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-B-I?
Yeah, all right, it's calledMorning Sip.
Morning Sip, Sip, that's whatthey call it.
I deal with these morning shows.
It's always curious.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
That's funny.
It's funny to learn their names.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
One show is called
Morning.
That's it, Morning.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It doesn't have to do
with their city.
Yeah, well, you wait until youget a real lazy guy to be hmm,
hmm, hmm, welcome to hmm.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, rotten.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So I have sandwiching
illusions.
It's like, how can you make itmore so?
Like my stage show, I do anhour-long set for an audience
and things happen, but at theend of it everything is brought
together, right, you know, likethat I think it's the movie a
momento, momento, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I remember that one
lots of movies where things or
like even sixth sense, not quitelike that, but everything, yeah
, everything that occurred Wasthere for a reason, right, and
then it just, and then it comestogether at the end.
So that's what my show is likeit's it's, it's choreographed,
it's a movie, it's an experience.
So what I'm trying to do isfind other ways to take the the
(12:14):
mind.
Once you realize what's amazingabout an illusion, you just
want to recreate it and thenbuild on it Mm-hmm.
So I'm taking these strongillusions and then Sandwiching,
I'm putting together to drivethe audience in certain
directions and then make it anot hot.
We call it like an aha momentand then ideally, you get
another second moment after that.
(12:35):
That is just the mind.
I Don't want to cuss, but youknow, yeah, yeah, it's just,
you're gonna fry people's minds.
It takes it to the next level,like wow, that is something I've
never seen.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
So what areas do you
travel in?
Speaker 3 (12:51):
Just the United
States.
I've been, I've been to UkraineOkay, that was actually on a
mission.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Yeah, yeah, my dad
was involved.
He's a.
He's a.
My dad's a doctor, and so wewent overseas.
He does medical mission work.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Okay, good for him.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, so I went over
there.
I cleaned a bunch of teeth.
This is 98 98 teeth 1998.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Oh 1998.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, and I did a
mission cleaning teeth at
orphanages.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
I did a bunch of
magic for the kids.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Oh, that's a fun
story.
We'll have to talk about thatsometime.
That's cool.
It's cool.
Yeah kids like magic.
Yeah, I'm gonna, so you like.
Did you have to give them likepain meds to?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
know what I did.
We were trained by a dentisthere and then, honestly, we just
put if I can remember right,this is 24 here 20 gosh 26 years
ago.
We put a light like a littlelight gun that they sat on, and
then we just gave them a coating, oh, and then everybody got
toothbrush and toothpaste oh,they don't got fluoride over
(13:50):
there.
They don't have that and Ithink toothbrush and toothpaste
were at these orphanages.
Yeah, at least back then thatbig deal they didn't really have
it.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Hey, man, so I wanted
to thank you.
Anything else you wanted totouch on before we End this
series?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
No, it's um.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Mentalism is amazing,
it's cool, it's fun.
Yeah, I mean, having somebodyBlow your mind in person is
something that everybody shouldexperience.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, nate Jester.
Thanks for coming, man.
This has been a great littlemini series.
I'm excited to see everyone'sreaction.
Um, matthew Cote, this isfoundation nation, along with my
guest.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Yeah, thanks for
having me.
I'm Nate jester.
If you want to take yourcompany's event to the next
level, you can find me atseattlemagiciancom.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Seattle magiciancom
check it out.
Thank you, have a good day andwe'll catch you on the flip side
.
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