November 19, 2024 • 39 mins
Former WWE Superstar Tom Pestock, formerly known as Baron Corbin, sat down with Adam Barnard for The Takedown on SI to talk about his NFL Career, his friendship with “Jackass” star Ryan Dunn, his WWE career, how the Pandemic derailed the push of King Corbin, “Bum Ass Corbin”, JBL, and the legacy of Baron Corbin.
Editor’s Note - this interview was recorded prior to Pestock’s release. This interview airs in full as it was recorded.
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Editor’s Note - this interview was recorded prior to Pestock’s release. This interview airs in full as it was recorded.
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Host/Executive Producer: Adam Barnard
Additional Production/Narration: Sam Krepps
Engineer: Carl Pannell
Intro Music: Carl Pannell
Outro Music/Musical Accompaniment: Enrichment
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Speaker 4 (01:30):
What's happening in This is Baron Court right here, and
you're listening to Foundation Radios.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
This is Foundation Radio. Here is your host, Adam Barnard.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Peace World, and welcome everybody to a special edition of
the Takedown on SI.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
My name is Adam Bernard. Thank you so much for
joining me again.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
My guest today needs no introduction, but I'm going to
give him one anyway.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
He is a woman the United States Champion.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
He is a former NXC Tag Team champion h and
also Westchester Zone.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Baron Corbyn, how are you, sir?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
I still still I always forget which armor is on
you got my PA represent.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You know, I was just thinking about it before I
came down to I think it was Tampa.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
I have one of those flat brim.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Elsewhere hats that it's with the PA logo with the
gray on it.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I was like, man, Corbyan would probably love this.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I guess it's not.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Elsewhere I was going to say or something elsewhere related.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
It's almost like a secret. I was sure I was
explaining it to somebody.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's like a secret handshake, right, Like it's almost like
because it was such a small time in Westchester when
you think about it, yeah, and it's only known by
so many people. So like that, Like I said, when
I saw you that time in c I was, I
saw you your arms out and I was, I literally
I'll never forget. I don't know if you remember this,
but I'm sitting in the front row in Philly and
I looked at you and I went.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
And You're just like you were stared at me, like
who the hell is this guy?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
You know? And that's what I messaged.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
We know, I messaged Cam Taylor and I was just like, yo, man,
like this guy in wrestling. Corby's like, oh yeah, and
he's telling me this and like, so tell me. Maybe
I'll start there because I've always been curious and I'm
not sure we've ever really talked about it before. When
did you end up in Westchester? Like how did that happen?
Because I know you were crazy?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah, So I was playing for the Colts at the
time and I'd gotten released, and you know, I had
just gotten there and was trying to get tough training camp,
got through training camp, got to season one, and things
happened and I got let go, and I was like, man,
I don't really want to go home because it's kind
of like, you know, failing and going home with your
tail which in your legs. Like I don't really want
to go home back to Kansas City just because I
(03:57):
miss you all my friends there and everything what happened,
and you know, I'm still trying to my rookie so
I'm trying to get back on And my uncle lived
in Westchester at the time, and he was like, hey,
just come stay with me, come train until you get
picked up.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And then you can you can go. And I was like, cool,
that's what I'll do.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
That way I can unbwigh all those awkward conversations in
my opinion. And it was funny because you know, we
all grew up latching like c K and all that
stuff and rolled into Jackass and whatnot. I was like,
it's like my first week there and I was like, man,
I need a drink, like, you.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Know, hard week of training. I'm gonna go have a drink.
And I ended up at the note and was really
packed night.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
But this this bigger dude jumping into me and he
was like, man, I'm so sorry because you're a few
mung gets. Don't kill me, you know that, blah blah blah.
Because at the time, I was three hundred and thirty
pounds too. I was a big boy. I was off
into the lineman and I was like, dude, it's bad.
Like if someone gets to fit into you're getting jumped into.
You got problems, right, And he's like, he's like, come
(04:59):
upstairs and let's have a drink. And I was like,
I don't know anybody here, so yeah, I come up
to hang out. And I walked up the stairs and
someone jumps on my back and I'm instantly like, who
is on my back? And it was it was done,
oh wow, And so it was Ryan Dunn jumped on
my back and because he was like, dude, you're huge,
so he.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Felt like he just had to jump on top of me.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
And then we drank till probably four in the morning
that night, went down and cooked in the kitchen. We
made like grilled cheese, sandwiches at four am, completely untaped
because we were hammered. But you know, we should not
be in a kitchen and using a frar at four
am when you can't see straight. And then so the
next day they were like, yo, we played a softball
(05:39):
game on Sundays, come play. And ever since then I
just was in the crew of the boy and I
played softball with Cam, Caleb, Mike Done, Uh, you know,
all those all those people, such a great crew of people.
And so I was there, I think two months before
I got picked up in Arizona. So I spent about
(06:00):
eight weeks hanging out with the boys training there and
then I got signed to Arizona.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Finished the season in Arizona.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
When the season was over, I loved it so much
in Philly that I went back and so I ended
up staying there for the whole off season that year.
So it was like, you know, four or five months
and stayed through the winter. Rented a dusty old apartment
that was some upstairs above Market Street, but it was
like one over okay, because it was it was a
(06:27):
girl's apartment who was moving in with her fiance. So
she's like, I still have the lease if you want to,
it's yours done. I basically lived, you know, on that
main drag and just hung out with the boys every
day and had a great time there.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Tried not to freeze to death.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Nothing was. It was always trouble with the heat all
winter long.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
It was I would freeze to death. And there it
was like this old dusty wood apartment. Like it's funny
because you're like, I'm an NFL football player and I'm
living in this like apartment. There's got no heat and
it was for the snow outside. And but I mean
I could stumble home from from the different bars with
the boys or you know, random runs to Atlantic City,
you know whatnot Oh my god, we caused there.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It's legitly and I think about it, and I've talked
to people about this before because you know, I bring
it up and I'm.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Like, oh yeah, gorb is a homie from Westchester and
this and the other end.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
It's so funny, Like I am almost ninety nine percent
sure that we interfaced at some point because those worlds,
because those worlds like BAM's, Bam had his own world,
Like people don't quite understand that dynamic, but like Bam
had his own world and Done had his own world.
But when they collided, it was like everybody was. It
was all love everywhere. So like I'm sure and I
(07:35):
know everybody from the town and I promise we're getting
to wrestling in a second, but I know everybody from
the town has their own favorite like Bam or Done story.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Do you have a favorite Ryan dun story that you
want to.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Show, which just him and I were so tight. It
was really.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
A lot of fun little ones from you know, playing
video games in the car shop and hitting each other
with the cattle prod. But like I think my favorite
story of all time is when we down to Atlantic
City meet Cam, Caleb and Done and we gambled.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Until probably seven and Dak was there too.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
We gambled and I have like videos on my phone
un till seven am. But for some reason Ryan had
on these like probably insanely expensive snow boots and so
he was standing in these snow boots all night long
when we were playing we were playing craps, he had
to go to the ATM like pick times and get
a fingerprint and all this stuff, and like he was
(08:32):
like in tears. Is his feet hurt so bad? From
just my wedding and these snow boots all night. We're like, dude,
your feet are rotten. They're gone. They're gonna have to
chop them off. So he was freaking out about his feet.
And then so then we were like, can you know,
can we get some comp rooms just to sleep for
a couple of hours because we lost a ton of
money that night, like fourteen cheese to come by. Yeah,
it was a black Yeah, we were having too much fun.
(08:55):
There was like Atlantic City's got some characters, man, So
when they're doing the craft we kept making up names
for all the people at the crafts table and they
were loving it. And it's just we were just losing
but didn't care. So they comped to some rooms and
compassed like a breakfast buffet. So I went to eight
waffles and with Giant with cream on it, and it
was just NonStop. But like we got to the room
(09:17):
and I have a video Ryan finally takes the boots
off and it.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Clears the room.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I mean it was still worse, like his feet had
been sweating for twelve hours straight standing at a traft table.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Me and Cam are like we're going to the other room.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
We went passed out and then Caleb sleeping in a
little chair, and Zack and Ryan we're in there and did.
And then when we drove back the next day, we
all got tattoos that said Sananigans. So we all have
a tattoo and it says Shenanigans and it says the date,
but it doesn't say the years. So I'm not even
positive what year that was that we did that we
forgot it says like Shenanigans eleven. It's like eleven, twelve thirteen,
(09:56):
because it was two days worth of partying in at
last city, and we bet I don't know what year
that was because we forgot to put the year on
our tattoos. And Cam got this huge Cam's all the
way across this chet lines on my foot Adam where
Calebs was done left handed on his was Oh my.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
God, I'm gonna have to ask him when I get
off of this call, you show me your tattoo showtoo.
So you're in Westchester, you go to Arizona. I'll tell
your mine off air, because I don't know if I
could sell it here.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
But yeah, I have more than a few days.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
On the next sive we're together, I'll tell you. Well, yeah,
drink some coffee and talk about it. But so you
go to Arizona and then you're done with the NFL,
how do you end up in wrestling?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Like? What what's your transition? Like that, I'd met a manager.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
He was a band manager for a lot of bigger vans,
and he asked me.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
We were on a cruise and he asked me.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
He said, you know, what's what's the next thing for
your football?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Is not it? Like I was like, man, I'm kind
of over football, so I'm ready to move on.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Like I had an injury in my shoulder and I
just the way it was handled to me left a
little bit of bad taste in my mouth, just like
it being I think that's what kind of got me
let go was if my shoulder got hurt worse, they
would have had to pay me like you know, the
set the season salary or whatever, because I would have
had a surgery. It wasn't mad enough. I had that surgery,
(11:14):
but I could still play and they didn't want to.
It's a paper league, you know. They They a lot
of things come down to stuff like that with contracts.
When you're a bubble guy. I was a bubble guy obviously.
If I was a starter, it would be a different story.
But when you're a bubble guy who can be replaced
fairly easy, you got to have all those things in
the world. You gotta be ready, you got to be healthy,
you got to be that. So it just kind of
(11:35):
left me with a funky chase, you know what. I
got replaced by guy with vision one and didn't have
a janking shoulder at the moment. So I was just
kind of angry. And I was like, well, I either
want to go to w W you know, that's always
been a plan, to go to WV and try to
do that world, or I want to go to UFC
and fight.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And he was like, dude, go to w V.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
He's like, it's a longer career, you have way more longevity,
not so damaging on your health. And he was right, obviously,
because I'm thirteen years later here still in WB. But
he knew Neil, and Neil ran the music for w
W E and he still does. And he's like, I'll
call him when we get back to Land and put
(12:15):
your name in his ear. And so he called Neil.
Neil called Johnny Ace, and then they called me and
they brought me out for a try out and I
was signed like three weeks later.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Wow, you know, I came in at three.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Twenty five and you know, got to slim down a
little bit and then be where you show up. So
I had to go through like all the physicals and
all that and got signed. Man then moved to Tampa
and started at FCW. So it was like it was
just kind of like the perfect lineup of of him
said of a little bit of luck. And I had
already built a name for myself with football and getting
(12:48):
fights at training camp, so I had that kind of
you know, little name behind me. And then being a
big guy who can move well strong obviously sparks interests
right away. And then I came in and and cut
a promo for Dusty and he liked it, and I
did the week try out and here.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
We are.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
When you won the US title.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Tell me more about that, like you like when you're
in that moment, like and how cool is it to
have the title? When you win the title at that point,
did you think like, Okay, this is going to be
the next step, Like I'm on that trajectory, right, You're
in the lone wolf character at the time, Right, I'm
trying to remember and you you win the title, tell
me about your thoughts when you win that, and then
you move into transition into money in the bank, Like
(13:32):
what is that whole period of life?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
You like that?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I mean it was awesome because and I still like,
you know, the US title and the NFT tag titles
have been my own only titles held, and you know,
I want to hold them all. You want to hold
the in the whole the world, you know, universal all
those things.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And if you don't want to all those things, you
don't belong here.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
But getting that opportunity and running with with AJ styles
so I think, is one of the greatest of all time,
especially at that time SmackDown, Like he was the guy
on SmackDown for a good amount of time and Ty Dillons.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Are at the time.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
It was awesome to run with those guys, and you know,
Ty was a part of the story the whole time,
and it was a way to kind of keep me
an ag a part because the ultimate goal was to.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Go to me and AJ for that title.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
And then uh here the craziest thing is you know,
so Ty was in the mix with me with a
J and all of that, and then when we heard
it it's going to be me and a J at
the pay per view.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
For the title. We both said, man Tis paved the
road for us with this feute.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
He's really helped us build this feute and he's a
part of it, like he should be a part of
the match of the pay per view.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
And we went to Events.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
A J and I am like, hey, you know, we
understand it's an awesome singles opportunity for the pay per view,
but we think that Billinger deserves to be in this
match as well. And he's like, you guys want it,
you got it, And so we actually, you know, got
to have tied to be a part of that match
by going to Events and it was really cool for that
to happen, and it was a cool moment and the
(15:05):
match that's one of my favorite matches of all the time,
especially because I think the crowd believe that Fillinger was
going to come away with that title that you know,
the whole arena was chanting ten for him, and it
was such a cool thing. And then you know when
when I got it and won, and then they also
threw a mic in my face right after, and then
I was unprepared, so that's where I came up, and
(15:26):
I was like, I always have stuff in my back pocket.
I gotta have promo lines at least that I get
from movies or I get from music or whatever it is.
And I saw some guy say he's going to mat
boat and float down the River of Tears, and.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
So I was like, that's the line I'm gonna use
right now, and so.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I threw that out there because sometimes they just do
that to keep you on your feet. But winning that
title was huge for me because it was my first
like major title on the main roster, and it was
that was my thing. I was like, man, I want
a perfect rise, you know, coming in winning the and
then going to the US like, I'm on that rise.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I want to be in six months from now. I'm
like introditioning holding a word, you know, right right. I
thought the Lone Wolf was awesome.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Cylinders, great attitude, great music, and that saltiness, the believability
that I can beat anybody in the ring, you know,
and that was a great position to be.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
So it was awesome.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Then I actually got to do some fun stuff like
Steamboat on some live events, you know. Him being one
of the greatest title holders of all time with the
US title. It's just a cool thing to have at
and that that's your path on the back from you know,
the company is you're doing a good job.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
You know when you get a hold of title.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
It was not something that was just handed from I've
earned everything I've gotten in this world because you know,
I didn't come from the other world like some of
these guys you come in from Japan or the indies
that have a big name in the wrestling, So I've
had to kind of fight for everything that I've learned.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, I think you do.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I think you do a fantastic job too of that
and that the Lone Wolf character was one of my
favorite of the string of carecharacters that you've had.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Yeah, Now, when you think about.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
When you think about doing the King Corbyn character, where
you think about the bum ass corbyan character you're going
to a Corbyn? Was there any shout out to Pat McAfee,
by the way.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Is there was there anything?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Was there anything when you were doing those characters that
you were like because the King Corbyn was really effective
as a heel, right, like, you play a really great heel.
I know my kids hated your guts when they would
watch you on TV, and I mean that's that's the point, right,
Like you're doing your job, right. Is there anything during
those runs that you were like that they had you
(17:39):
do or that was part of your characters You're like,
maybe I don't really like this or I don't think
it's connecting the way it should. And at that time,
did you feel like it was like, all right, these
are all going to be like the next steps for me,
Like these are all part of that that comboine where
and going to the next thing?
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Well, I mean, first of all, for me, longevity is key.
You know, I want to have a fifteen years for
That's what I would love. I would love you look
at the list of guys to get fifteen years, it's
not very long. And I'm at thirteen now. So if
I can quite like that and get two or three more, amazing.
If I can go past that even better. And I'm
a big guy. That was adaptability and you have to
(18:16):
evolve and change to keep yourself relevant. And if you
look at what I've done over you know, eight or
nine years on main roster television, being a constant staple.
For ninety five percent of that I was on TV
every week and there were times when I was like
the Constable where I was pulling like seven segs a show.
But I think it's because I was always very good
(18:37):
at adapting and taking what they're giving me and just
making the most out of it. The King thing was was awesome.
That was all Hamen. That was Hayman's idea to take
me down that route. And I think the pandemic kind
of killed the King because that was one of those
things that needed to be in front of people.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
It was all about the presentation from being.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Carried to the ring, to the obnoxious giant eight thousand
pounds fer coat and the crown and all of the things.
That's something that needs to be presented to a live
audience because it just received better that way, you know,
where it irritates people when I'm looking down on it
and waving at them from my giant throne that I
mean carried on.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
It just has more of an effect that way.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
The Constable that was just fun, Like they're going to
give me a role where I get to abuse my power.
There was one time I had a match I think
it would spin an hollur at the time where I
got to lose and then restart the match like three
times until I won, and like every time I restarted
the match, like you could genuinely feel the anger and
frustration from the audience. It was a fat I think
(19:44):
that the sad forman, you know, it was just supposed
to be like a two week thing. I think that
was originally good plan, like let's get you upset and
then get you back, and then it just I grabbed
onto it and I was like, this is so different,
this is so fun and I can show my range,
and I man, I have a zero ego, so like
(20:06):
something like that is not going to like some there
some people in our world that would be like you
want me to look like a bum and do this,
but I'm a ww SuperStar's like I have no ego,
like you want me to Hell, yeah, let's go. This
is going to be fun. Let's let's turn it up
to twelve. That's something I've always learned from seen it.
How do you take what they give you and turn
it into gold?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
And it's a lot of work. I mean, you have
to fully commit.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
There's times that I have to sit back and kind
of take twenty or thirty minutes of getting my head
in the space of like going out there and just
being disheveled and a total disaster. Like I would walk
to the ring and people are legit trying to hand
me twenty dollars bills.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I had a lady in Houston.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I was leaving the building in Houston and a woman
shoved money in the window and I was like, I
don't I.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Don't need your money.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Like you know Jacob, he's one of the Foxing that's
like he sent me a message that his daughter wanted
to give me her allowance because she felt so bad
for me.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Like it's I mean, I was all in on that.
And then I think Happy Corbyn was.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
The one that I really had to, you know, go okay,
this is not my favorite, like.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
How do I make this awesome?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
And like the Vegas thing was so fun and I
did massive numbers on social with winning the money back,
but I had the music like they were playing it.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I was like, this is a joke.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
This is this is my music, right, and they're like,
yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I can't walk out this door to that.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Like and then Hunter, you know, gave me a thing
like he was like, you know, look look at Sean
Michaels He's like you would think you hear that the
first time, Like, really, this is what you want and
now it's one of the greatest things of all times
what you make of it. And so you know, Hunter
was a guy who really opened my eyes to that.
He was like, you know, it's what you make of it,
and I've always done that. That was like one of
(21:47):
the harder ones because I am a little more like
rock and roll. Give me my motorcycle, you know, my bourbon,
my tequila, my meat. But so that that was a
different one. But I had all the ma too, So
that worked out well. I like those doors. I just
you know, I live in Florida and married to Puerto
Rican so I need my my beach at But.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
So that worked out well. So that was that was great.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
And then you know, then kind of the tides changed
when everything was changing the w B and we went
to the JBL route and I think that, you know,
it struggled.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I can't put my finger on why it struggled.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I think that people and John and myself wanted more
out of like this.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I wanted John to be able.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
To decapitate a few people, and it was a you know,
it's a process of getting in back in the ring
and getting doing that, you know, and he was kind
of just became like a mouthpiece for me and an introduction,
you know, kind of kind of thing where he would
get the crowd all around that for me. But I
think we all kind of just wanted a little bit
(22:49):
more from that and it.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Just didn't click. I mean, it is you know, I'll
take the fall for it.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I'm happily to do that because JB is one of
the greatest of all times, actually one of the greatest
heels of all time. And sometimes things just don't click.
It is what it is, and that was one of them.
But there was like a moment where he hit Bobby
Lashley in one of our matches and you heard the
crowd like, Oh, that's it, that's.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
What we want more of.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
But it was like we had to walk a line
because you know, it's just one of those things. And
so when that didn't click, it was time to rebuild.
It was time to kind of start over. So it's
been another evolution where I went back to you know, nxted.
They asked if I want to go work Carmelo Hayes
down there for a month, and I was like yeah,
I'd love to, Like I'm not doing anything on main
(23:34):
roster right now, let's go we figure out what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
And then I got down there and got around Sean.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
And you know Baldo and Russo the writer and Terry
Taylor and like it just the energy down there is special.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Man, if you.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Walk in that door and you want to create, you
want to work, and you want to evolve, and you
want to make this special because all these dudes are
so hungry down there, like they want to get to
the main roster. So now they got a guy who's
been out there for you know, eight or nine years
coming back into their house, and so it elevates them,
and it elevates me because I got to keep up
with these dudes. Like I had the first match, I'm like, whoa,
(24:11):
this is a different pace, Like we're moving here, like
this is fast.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
And so I was like.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Jumping on the peloton and going to boxing and doing
all these things to really ramp up my cardio. And
I was like, man, I don't want to hang with
these dudes, like I gotta I gotta have my cardio
and check. And I did that and it was fun.
But having Sean and Matt Bloom and Russo and Terry
and Norman. I mean, everybody in that building is so
special getting behind you and going, Okay, what do you
(24:36):
want to do?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Let's first let to ask if I can stay.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Here for a few months, like let me rebuild here,
Like let's let's pay all that I've done and get
rid of. And then that's where we came up with
kind of like that burn the ships, like let's throw
everything in an incinerator, burn all these old characters, let's
start over, and let's be who I am. And that's
why I think this evolutionist character I'm on now the
audience like loves because it's very authentic, Like this is
(25:02):
the first time in my career. You know, I've been
doing a bunch of dark matches lately, trying to get
back in the mixt on on the roster, and they're
chanting my name the whole time, whether it's a singles
match like I had last week, or it was with
you know, tag match with with proof. You know, they're
they're chanting my name that they're wanting to see me
beat people up, and they're they're buying it when I
know that, you know, we're there at the end of
(25:22):
that stuff with the JBO, Like, I don't think anybody,
even the Happy Orbit, nobody was expecting me to win
matches like going to wrestle Meing Againstdrew mcintatt. Nobody expected
me to win that match. They all knew Drew was
gonna win. We're going to give me the show, but
they all knew the outcome prior to starting. So for
me to get back to a place where they expect
me to win and do big things is huge. And
(25:44):
so having all those guys in the NXT get behind
me and you know, Hunter allowing me to stay there
for a while and rebuild and do those things was
really special because I think it not only did light
a fire that like reinvigorated everything that I'm doing, but
I think it a lot of brought a lot of
authenticity to me and what I'm presenting to the audience,
(26:06):
which is why I think they connect so well with
it right now, because they're getting a true I see
it on social they're like, man, this is the real
Baron corbun Like, this is a dude I want to
hang out with. Is a dude I want to watch
kick people's ass, And this is a dude that I'm
going to support. So it's really awesome and I owe
all that to you know, Haunter and Sean and everybody
in the NXT.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, I mean that's I think that's for me, like
what I get from the character, even the work you
did with the Paulo Cruz and even like the stuff
with brom Braker, Like there was definitely a level of
authenticity to you being true to yourself.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, I've heard I've heard Bruce and those guys say
all the time, like the most popular characters are who
you are as an individual, and certain pieces of that
turned up to eleven, right, And I feel like that's
what you're doing, and you're accentuating a really well. Like
I saw the Paris crowd, man, they were like that
was one of the coolst things, Like just from a
personal level, Like you know, that's that's freaking huge, man,
(26:56):
Like that must have been overwhelming in that moment to
hear them chancing for.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
You on mostiple level.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yeah, it was unexpected number one, Like I had no
idea and like when my music hit, like I said
that the way.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
That place blew, I was like, what who do they
think is here? Like that that can't be for me.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
And then it was like, like I said, standing in
the ring looking across it at Rick Booze and I
was like shaking my head.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I was like, I'm sorry, dude, you're screwed like I have.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
There's there's legit nothing I can do in this moment
to fix this, like yeah, it is what it is.
And like I had to back up too because like
like you're.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Getting that lump in your throat. I was like, I'm
might shed a too standing here in the middle of
the ring like that time much it moved me.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
It was crazy, and you know the YouTuber that that
told me that, you know, be ready that might happen.
You know, he's like, it's they appreciate your work, like
they feel like you've been held down a little or
whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
I attribute to like a kind of the Dean of
Bryant movement a little bit of where like they were
like the man's holding him down, like let's get behind us.
And that was the biggest movement. I mean, mine's a
small percentage of that, but his was, you know, earth shaking.
But the same with KOFE, like it just becomes this
organic thing and it can't be stopped when it goes
that way. So that's what I feel like. It's a
(28:15):
minute version of those, but it's carried over. It's carried
over to the States and NXT. And the stuff with
Braun was so natural and fun where we were just
like locker room.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I think it was funny because Russo is like, I.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Always give Raun a lot of trouble, like a younger
brother football locker room buddies like pick on him a
little bit. He's a little sensitive sometimes, so I can
get him rowed up pretty quick and it's a lot
of fun to do that to irritate him. So he's like,
I want that on camera. So a lot of our
stuff on camera was not scripted. It was not It
(28:47):
was just us kind of riffing and like even the
Wolf Dogs thing, like he said that to be funny
and then it's stuck and it became people still want that.
Like I would love, you know, to watch Braun. You know,
he just won the title again Monday night. I would
love to see him go on and be world champion,
and then a year and a half from now we
(29:07):
do a Wolf Dogs Reunited, Like let's get some tag
titles on the main roster's let's beat some people up,
or let's start a crew. Let's start a little motorcycle game.
He had a you know, he won up to me
on that motorcycle and the pay per view that we
did for an XT.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
You know, we could start a little motorcycle crew. That
would be cool.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Like I've always thought that that would be fun to
have a little little biker game because it could be
on like multiple shows. You could have, you know, members
on Raw, members on SmackDown, you have Prospects and NXT
that where a little Prospects Patch. I think there'd be
something dope to starting a crew like that.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
But I think that would be I think that would
be really dope, I think, but also too like like
from another perspective, though, I could see if you're telling
that story from a power dynamic struggle, right, like, suppose
that Broad has that heavyweight title. Is there a possibility
for you to have that you know, almost like a
like a almost what was his name, Jackson Clay kind
(30:02):
of powow dynamic, right, Like, I really seal that taking
steam one of the things to see each other, Hey listening.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
I think I think it would I think it would
get over really well.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Man, I think I think Hunter, if you're listening, I
know you listen to the show, so I appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
If you're listening, I think this is money here.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
But I know that I've heard through the grape vine
that you have a reputation of being like one of
the safest workers in the industry, like one of the
safest people in the ring. I think a lot of
what you've done in your career is directly attributed to that,
Like your Kurt Angle's final match. Right, you do the
segment with the Rock on the very first SmackDown on Fox. Right,
you do the whole thing with Becky Lynch that the explosive, controversial,
(30:39):
you know, move with her. Yeah, do you see yourself
in a position where you could potentially be in that
last run with John Cena and I I think you could,
But I would see.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
I would love it. I would.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
I mean in any moment you get to spend in
a ring or backstage or anything with John is extremely valuable.
The dude is on my mount Rush more than forever
will be as a human being and as a WW superstar.
Like there's just he's a special enigma. If you will
with a wealth of knowledge that there's there's no one
with a better mind for what we do. And I
(31:13):
got to learn a lot from him, and there's little
tidbits I've taken from my whole career from John, And
when I get frustrated, I can call them and go
to the gym and work out or whatever it is,
and I can learn or he can tell me to
step back, get out of my head, or you know,
all of those things. So to be a part in
any aspect, whether it's as a teammate or against John,
(31:34):
I would love that. But yeah, I mean, I pride
myself in having the ability in the ring to look
like I'm killing you without actually killing me.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
But there's a special art to it.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
And I think when people watch what I do, you know,
you get that kind of just laced them in the
face or he just dumped them this way, like I
can take them.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I can suspend that that belief that what we.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Do is you know, entertainment and make it look fair
real without actually killing a dude. So, like I said,
I think I'm one of the best at that, and
I take pride in that, and I want to be
able to go out there and put on a match
with a seth rawlins or a kurt angle, you know,
five nights a week if I have to, and I
want them to want to be in there. I mean
there's there's times is I won't put names out there,
(32:19):
but we're in a big tag match and they're screaming
tag corbinback and you're killing me so so so there's
there's there's that, and it's it's something to be proud
of because not not everybody can do that.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Last question, what do you think Baron Corban's legacy will
be with w W A.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Man? I asked myself the same thing all the time.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
I think there's a bunch of different logos and stuff
that people would attribute to it. Different levels people would
attribute to to me and what I do, whether it's
angry Internet fans, you know, thinking I'm a bottom level
guy or at best mid level, and then there's people
thing I deserve to be World champions. I think my
legacy will be, you know, a guy that can be
(33:09):
put in any situation and make it work. I think again,
that's that's something not everybody can do. Man, that's a
whole I must dropped a flow that's.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Like I would I would have believe that it's fine.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
You're good.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
You know, I just what I wanted to be and
what it will be maybe different.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
You know, I would love this to be a guy
that gets invited to the Hall of Fame in ten
years from now, you know, as having a long career,
and I like to I.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Mean, to me, Caine is one of the greatest of
all time.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
And you know, he's been world champ for a very
one time, for a very short period of time, but
he's known as a guy who always kind of was
in the mix. He was a legitimate competitor. He was never,
you know, anywhere near the bottom of the roster. He
adapted the corporate Kane and all of those things and
(34:05):
the funny stuff with youan of Bryant, Like I would
just like to be kind of that.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Army Swiss knife.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
I guess in the fan's eyes, if you will like
a guy who can do anything and it will entertain people.
I mean, that's my ultimate goals, het and entertain people,
whether they're cheering for me, or they're throwing their drinks
and popcorn at me, or you're a ninety eight year
old woman giving me the middle finger, whatever it is.
And like I said, I want to get to that,
you know, fifteen year mark or whatever. So I don't know,
(34:33):
but I would like my my if I'm looking at
it in my eyes, I want.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
To just speak considered like an incredible entertainment.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
It's awesome to be able to do this and travel
the world and get to do the things they do.
I mean Monday or is at the Ari Zone a
Cordan's football game with a couple of the UFC guys
and you know, being a part of that and then
getting good stuff to help you special Olympics or you know,
youth or be a part of that. The commun of
these stuff like that's also important. So it's not a
very good answer of like straight to the point of
(35:06):
what I want my legs to be because it's kind
of all over the place, like my career has been
where you know, I'm in the main event for two
years and now I'm fighting back to get some time
on TV to prove myself once again. I prove my
talent and my skill and I truly believe I can
hang with anyone on the roster, in the ring or
on the mic. So just you know, find like able
to get back to that spot and.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
We don't know. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I think that was a perfect answer, though, Fred, if I,
if I may, if I may say, you so myself.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Now, it's hard, it's hard to ask, you know. That's
that's a difficult question to answer.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I mean it's I mean, if you look at a
Roman Reigne, what's your legacy?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
One of the greatest chambers of all time, one of
the greatest heels of all time, one of.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
The greatest baby based of all time.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
I think I've accepted that that's not going to be
my my legacy.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
So how do I make the best of what I have?
And I think I'm doing.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
That if I may, sir, it may not be your legacy,
not yet, but I.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Think it should be. There's always an not yet.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Well listen, man, where and one quick thing I promised
before we wrap up here.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
I hate I was.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Going to say that was That's what I was going
to ask, is about your coffee company. I wanted to
make sure plug that here, make sure people know where
to find it.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
I bought some myself. It's absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I answer it so good.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Where can people pick it up?
Speaker 1 (36:19):
What got you into the coffee business and what made
you decide to go to go through it. Also, I
have to apologize about sending you that message that time
before I came to Tampa, insulting you by almost bringing
you a coffee.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, I sent it.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
After I said it, I was like, after I said it,
I was like, what the hell was I thinking?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
What the hell's wrong with it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:38):
I mean the easiest place is to if you go
to my Baron corbyn wwe Instagram, there's a link to it.
Open Air Coffee is my coffee company, Open Air Coffee
top sheet and you can go to the website, or
you can go to the Instagram page which is a
coffee roasters and pick it up with I mean, what
got me into that? I'm a big wine, whiskey, tequila guy.
(37:00):
I like the flavor of profiles. I like the different regions.
All the stuff comes from the different flavors. And I
can't always obviously be having you know, drinks and trying
to lean up a little bit. It's cut into my
booze for sure. So coffee kind of fills that gap,
I guess sometimes with like really diving in and learning
about it and creating and roasting, and it's just become
(37:22):
like a. It was a hobby and now it's turning
into a business because it does well. You can subscribe,
you can just buy bags. It doesn't really matter how
you go about it. But you know, we're getting coffee
in Costa Rica. I got one from coming in from
Coago right now. I got one from Nicaragua. I got
one from egop, you know, getting to roast them and
pasting different profiles and all of those things. And then
(37:44):
now we're opening eight thousand square foot community coffee roaster
here in campus. To me and some of the guys
from Yellow Rooster, we're going to open that and it's
going to be a place where anybody going to coffee
shop or a micro roasting company, they can come and
roast the coffee there.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Buy their coffee, bag their coffee.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Like it's going to be a one stop shop for
your coffee business, and it's going to help a lot
of people in the coffee world because you know, owning
a coffee roaster is extensive. I mean they're like for
a big thirty five kilo roaster at one hundred and
eighty grand. Like, yeah, coffee shops you can't. Not everybody
can do that, but if they have a passion for it.
Now they can just come to our facility and rent
it for a couple of bucks and you know, save
(38:26):
them the overhead on a roaster on a separate building
for their roaster, and storage for their coffee and all
that can all be done here.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
That's amazing. Man, can't can't wait to see it when
it's also to open up. Barren Gorman, I want to
thank you again so much for your time. Sorry, I
really appreciate it. Always great to see you and we'll catch.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Up against So I got a really sure this is good.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
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Speaker 4 (01:30):
What's happening in This is Baron Court right here, and
you're listening to Foundation Radios.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
This is Foundation Radio. Here is your host, Adam Barnard.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Peace World, and welcome everybody to a special edition of
the Takedown on SI.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
My name is Adam Bernard. Thank you so much for
joining me again.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
My guest today needs no introduction, but I'm going to
give him one anyway.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
He is a woman the United States Champion.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
He is a former NXC Tag Team champion h and
also Westchester Zone.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Baron Corbyn, how are you, sir?
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
I still still I always forget which armor is on
you got my PA represent.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
You know, I was just thinking about it before I
came down to I think it was Tampa.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
I have one of those flat brim.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Elsewhere hats that it's with the PA logo with the
gray on it.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I was like, man, Corbyan would probably love this.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
I guess it's not.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Elsewhere I was going to say or something elsewhere related.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
It's almost like a secret. I was sure I was
explaining it to somebody.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's like a secret handshake, right, Like it's almost like
because it was such a small time in Westchester when
you think about it, yeah, and it's only known by
so many people. So like that, Like I said, when
I saw you that time in c I was, I
saw you your arms out and I was, I literally
I'll never forget. I don't know if you remember this,
but I'm sitting in the front row in Philly and
I looked at you and I went.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
And You're just like you were stared at me, like
who the hell is this guy?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
You know? And that's what I messaged.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
We know, I messaged Cam Taylor and I was just like, yo, man,
like this guy in wrestling. Corby's like, oh yeah, and
he's telling me this and like, so tell me. Maybe
I'll start there because I've always been curious and I'm
not sure we've ever really talked about it before. When
did you end up in Westchester? Like how did that happen?
Because I know you were crazy?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah, So I was playing for the Colts at the
time and I'd gotten released, and you know, I had
just gotten there and was trying to get tough training camp,
got through training camp, got to season one, and things
happened and I got let go, and I was like, man,
I don't really want to go home because it's kind
of like, you know, failing and going home with your
tail which in your legs. Like I don't really want
to go home back to Kansas City just because I
(03:57):
miss you all my friends there and everything what happened,
and you know, I'm still trying to my rookie so
I'm trying to get back on And my uncle lived
in Westchester at the time, and he was like, hey,
just come stay with me, come train until you get
picked up.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And then you can you can go. And I was like, cool,
that's what I'll do.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
That way I can unbwigh all those awkward conversations in
my opinion. And it was funny because you know, we
all grew up latching like c K and all that
stuff and rolled into Jackass and whatnot. I was like,
it's like my first week there and I was like, man,
I need a drink, like, you.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Know, hard week of training. I'm gonna go have a drink.
And I ended up at the note and was really
packed night.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
But this this bigger dude jumping into me and he
was like, man, I'm so sorry because you're a few
mung gets. Don't kill me, you know that, blah blah blah.
Because at the time, I was three hundred and thirty
pounds too. I was a big boy. I was off
into the lineman and I was like, dude, it's bad.
Like if someone gets to fit into you're getting jumped into.
You got problems, right, And he's like, he's like, come
(04:59):
upstairs and let's have a drink. And I was like,
I don't know anybody here, so yeah, I come up
to hang out. And I walked up the stairs and
someone jumps on my back and I'm instantly like, who
is on my back? And it was it was done,
oh wow, And so it was Ryan Dunn jumped on
my back and because he was like, dude, you're huge,
so he.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Felt like he just had to jump on top of me.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
And then we drank till probably four in the morning
that night, went down and cooked in the kitchen. We
made like grilled cheese, sandwiches at four am, completely untaped
because we were hammered. But you know, we should not
be in a kitchen and using a frar at four
am when you can't see straight. And then so the
next day they were like, yo, we played a softball
(05:39):
game on Sundays, come play. And ever since then I
just was in the crew of the boy and I
played softball with Cam, Caleb, Mike Done, Uh, you know,
all those all those people, such a great crew of people.
And so I was there, I think two months before
I got picked up in Arizona. So I spent about
(06:00):
eight weeks hanging out with the boys training there and
then I got signed to Arizona.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Finished the season in Arizona.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
When the season was over, I loved it so much
in Philly that I went back and so I ended
up staying there for the whole off season that year.
So it was like, you know, four or five months
and stayed through the winter. Rented a dusty old apartment
that was some upstairs above Market Street, but it was
like one over okay, because it was it was a
(06:27):
girl's apartment who was moving in with her fiance. So
she's like, I still have the lease if you want to,
it's yours done. I basically lived, you know, on that
main drag and just hung out with the boys every
day and had a great time there.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Tried not to freeze to death.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Nothing was. It was always trouble with the heat all
winter long.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
It was I would freeze to death. And there it
was like this old dusty wood apartment. Like it's funny
because you're like, I'm an NFL football player and I'm
living in this like apartment. There's got no heat and
it was for the snow outside. And but I mean
I could stumble home from from the different bars with
the boys or you know, random runs to Atlantic City,
you know whatnot Oh my god, we caused there.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
It's legitly and I think about it, and I've talked
to people about this before because you know, I bring
it up and I'm.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Like, oh yeah, gorb is a homie from Westchester and
this and the other end.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
It's so funny, Like I am almost ninety nine percent
sure that we interfaced at some point because those worlds,
because those worlds like BAM's, Bam had his own world,
Like people don't quite understand that dynamic, but like Bam
had his own world and Done had his own world.
But when they collided, it was like everybody was. It
was all love everywhere. So like I'm sure and I
(07:35):
know everybody from the town and I promise we're getting
to wrestling in a second, but I know everybody from
the town has their own favorite like Bam or Done story.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Do you have a favorite Ryan dun story that you
want to.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Show, which just him and I were so tight. It
was really.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
A lot of fun little ones from you know, playing
video games in the car shop and hitting each other
with the cattle prod. But like I think my favorite
story of all time is when we down to Atlantic
City meet Cam, Caleb and Done and we gambled.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Until probably seven and Dak was there too.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
We gambled and I have like videos on my phone
un till seven am. But for some reason Ryan had
on these like probably insanely expensive snow boots and so
he was standing in these snow boots all night long
when we were playing we were playing craps, he had
to go to the ATM like pick times and get
a fingerprint and all this stuff, and like he was
(08:32):
like in tears. Is his feet hurt so bad? From
just my wedding and these snow boots all night. We're like, dude,
your feet are rotten. They're gone. They're gonna have to
chop them off. So he was freaking out about his feet.
And then so then we were like, can you know,
can we get some comp rooms just to sleep for
a couple of hours because we lost a ton of
money that night, like fourteen cheese to come by. Yeah,
it was a black Yeah, we were having too much fun.
(08:55):
There was like Atlantic City's got some characters, man, So
when they're doing the craft we kept making up names
for all the people at the crafts table and they
were loving it. And it's just we were just losing
but didn't care. So they comped to some rooms and
compassed like a breakfast buffet. So I went to eight
waffles and with Giant with cream on it, and it
was just NonStop. But like we got to the room
(09:17):
and I have a video Ryan finally takes the boots
off and it.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Clears the room.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
I mean it was still worse, like his feet had
been sweating for twelve hours straight standing at a traft table.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Me and Cam are like we're going to the other room.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
We went passed out and then Caleb sleeping in a
little chair, and Zack and Ryan we're in there and did.
And then when we drove back the next day, we
all got tattoos that said Sananigans. So we all have
a tattoo and it says Shenanigans and it says the date,
but it doesn't say the years. So I'm not even
positive what year that was that we did that we
forgot it says like Shenanigans eleven. It's like eleven, twelve thirteen,
(09:56):
because it was two days worth of partying in at
last city, and we bet I don't know what year
that was because we forgot to put the year on
our tattoos. And Cam got this huge Cam's all the
way across this chet lines on my foot Adam where
Calebs was done left handed on his was Oh my.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
God, I'm gonna have to ask him when I get
off of this call, you show me your tattoo showtoo.
So you're in Westchester, you go to Arizona. I'll tell
your mine off air, because I don't know if I
could sell it here.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
But yeah, I have more than a few days.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
On the next sive we're together, I'll tell you. Well, yeah,
drink some coffee and talk about it. But so you
go to Arizona and then you're done with the NFL,
how do you end up in wrestling?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Like? What what's your transition? Like that, I'd met a manager.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
He was a band manager for a lot of bigger vans,
and he asked me.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
We were on a cruise and he asked me.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
He said, you know, what's what's the next thing for
your football?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Is not it? Like I was like, man, I'm kind
of over football, so I'm ready to move on.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Like I had an injury in my shoulder and I
just the way it was handled to me left a
little bit of bad taste in my mouth, just like
it being I think that's what kind of got me
let go was if my shoulder got hurt worse, they
would have had to pay me like you know, the
set the season salary or whatever, because I would have
had a surgery. It wasn't mad enough. I had that surgery,
(11:14):
but I could still play and they didn't want to.
It's a paper league, you know. They They a lot
of things come down to stuff like that with contracts.
When you're a bubble guy. I was a bubble guy obviously.
If I was a starter, it would be a different story.
But when you're a bubble guy who can be replaced
fairly easy, you got to have all those things in
the world. You gotta be ready, you got to be healthy,
you got to be that. So it just kind of
(11:35):
left me with a funky chase, you know what. I
got replaced by guy with vision one and didn't have
a janking shoulder at the moment. So I was just
kind of angry. And I was like, well, I either
want to go to w W you know, that's always
been a plan, to go to WV and try to
do that world, or I want to go to UFC
and fight.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
And he was like, dude, go to w V.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
He's like, it's a longer career, you have way more longevity,
not so damaging on your health. And he was right, obviously,
because I'm thirteen years later here still in WB. But
he knew Neil, and Neil ran the music for w
W E and he still does. And he's like, I'll
call him when we get back to Land and put
(12:15):
your name in his ear. And so he called Neil.
Neil called Johnny Ace, and then they called me and
they brought me out for a try out and I
was signed like three weeks later.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Wow, you know, I came in at three.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Twenty five and you know, got to slim down a
little bit and then be where you show up. So
I had to go through like all the physicals and
all that and got signed. Man then moved to Tampa
and started at FCW. So it was like it was
just kind of like the perfect lineup of of him
said of a little bit of luck. And I had
already built a name for myself with football and getting
(12:48):
fights at training camp, so I had that kind of
you know, little name behind me. And then being a
big guy who can move well strong obviously sparks interests
right away. And then I came in and and cut
a promo for Dusty and he liked it, and I
did the week try out and here.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
We are.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
When you won the US title.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Tell me more about that, like you like when you're
in that moment, like and how cool is it to
have the title? When you win the title at that point,
did you think like, Okay, this is going to be
the next step, Like I'm on that trajectory, right, You're
in the lone wolf character at the time, Right, I'm
trying to remember and you you win the title, tell
me about your thoughts when you win that, and then
you move into transition into money in the bank, Like
(13:32):
what is that whole period of life?
Speaker 3 (13:34):
You like that?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I mean it was awesome because and I still like,
you know, the US title and the NFT tag titles
have been my own only titles held, and you know,
I want to hold them all. You want to hold
the in the whole the world, you know, universal all
those things.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And if you don't want to all those things, you
don't belong here.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
But getting that opportunity and running with with AJ styles
so I think, is one of the greatest of all time,
especially at that time SmackDown, Like he was the guy
on SmackDown for a good amount of time and Ty Dillons.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Are at the time.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
It was awesome to run with those guys, and you know,
Ty was a part of the story the whole time,
and it was a way to kind of keep me
an ag a part because the ultimate goal was to.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Go to me and AJ for that title.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
And then uh here the craziest thing is you know,
so Ty was in the mix with me with a
J and all of that, and then when we heard
it it's going to be me and a J at
the pay per view.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
For the title. We both said, man Tis paved the
road for us with this feute.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
He's really helped us build this feute and he's a
part of it, like he should be a part of
the match of the pay per view.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
And we went to Events.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
A J and I am like, hey, you know, we
understand it's an awesome singles opportunity for the pay per view,
but we think that Billinger deserves to be in this
match as well. And he's like, you guys want it,
you got it, And so we actually, you know, got
to have tied to be a part of that match
by going to Events and it was really cool for that
to happen, and it was a cool moment and the
(15:05):
match that's one of my favorite matches of all the time,
especially because I think the crowd believe that Fillinger was
going to come away with that title that you know,
the whole arena was chanting ten for him, and it
was such a cool thing. And then you know when
when I got it and won, and then they also
threw a mic in my face right after, and then
I was unprepared, so that's where I came up, and
(15:26):
I was like, I always have stuff in my back pocket.
I gotta have promo lines at least that I get
from movies or I get from music or whatever it is.
And I saw some guy say he's going to mat
boat and float down the River of Tears, and.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
So I was like, that's the line I'm gonna use
right now, and so.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I threw that out there because sometimes they just do
that to keep you on your feet. But winning that
title was huge for me because it was my first
like major title on the main roster, and it was
that was my thing. I was like, man, I want
a perfect rise, you know, coming in winning the and
then going to the US like, I'm on that rise.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I want to be in six months from now. I'm
like introditioning holding a word, you know, right right. I
thought the Lone Wolf was awesome.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Cylinders, great attitude, great music, and that saltiness, the believability
that I can beat anybody in the ring, you know,
and that was a great position to be.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
So it was awesome.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Then I actually got to do some fun stuff like
Steamboat on some live events, you know. Him being one
of the greatest title holders of all time with the
US title. It's just a cool thing to have at
and that that's your path on the back from you know,
the company is you're doing a good job.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
You know when you get a hold of title.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
It was not something that was just handed from I've
earned everything I've gotten in this world because you know,
I didn't come from the other world like some of
these guys you come in from Japan or the indies
that have a big name in the wrestling, So I've
had to kind of fight for everything that I've learned.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, I think you do.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
I think you do a fantastic job too of that
and that the Lone Wolf character was one of my
favorite of the string of carecharacters that you've had.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Yeah, Now, when you think about.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
When you think about doing the King Corbyn character, where
you think about the bum ass corbyan character you're going
to a Corbyn? Was there any shout out to Pat McAfee,
by the way.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Is there was there anything?
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Was there anything when you were doing those characters that
you were like because the King Corbyn was really effective
as a heel, right, like, you play a really great heel.
I know my kids hated your guts when they would
watch you on TV, and I mean that's that's the point, right,
Like you're doing your job, right. Is there anything during
those runs that you were like that they had you
(17:39):
do or that was part of your characters You're like,
maybe I don't really like this or I don't think
it's connecting the way it should. And at that time,
did you feel like it was like, all right, these
are all going to be like the next steps for me,
Like these are all part of that that comboine where
and going to the next thing?
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Well, I mean, first of all, for me, longevity is key.
You know, I want to have a fifteen years for
That's what I would love. I would love you look
at the list of guys to get fifteen years, it's
not very long. And I'm at thirteen now. So if
I can quite like that and get two or three more, amazing.
If I can go past that even better. And I'm
a big guy. That was adaptability and you have to
(18:16):
evolve and change to keep yourself relevant. And if you
look at what I've done over you know, eight or
nine years on main roster television, being a constant staple.
For ninety five percent of that I was on TV
every week and there were times when I was like
the Constable where I was pulling like seven segs a show.
But I think it's because I was always very good
(18:37):
at adapting and taking what they're giving me and just
making the most out of it. The King thing was was awesome.
That was all Hamen. That was Hayman's idea to take
me down that route. And I think the pandemic kind
of killed the King because that was one of those
things that needed to be in front of people.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
It was all about the presentation from being.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Carried to the ring, to the obnoxious giant eight thousand
pounds fer coat and the crown and all of the things.
That's something that needs to be presented to a live
audience because it just received better that way, you know,
where it irritates people when I'm looking down on it
and waving at them from my giant throne that I
mean carried on.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
It just has more of an effect that way.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
The Constable that was just fun, Like they're going to
give me a role where I get to abuse my power.
There was one time I had a match I think
it would spin an hollur at the time where I
got to lose and then restart the match like three
times until I won, and like every time I restarted
the match, like you could genuinely feel the anger and
frustration from the audience. It was a fat I think
(19:44):
that the sad forman, you know, it was just supposed
to be like a two week thing. I think that
was originally good plan, like let's get you upset and
then get you back, and then it just I grabbed
onto it and I was like, this is so different,
this is so fun and I can show my range,
and I man, I have a zero ego, so like
(20:06):
something like that is not going to like some there
some people in our world that would be like you
want me to look like a bum and do this,
but I'm a ww SuperStar's like I have no ego,
like you want me to Hell, yeah, let's go. This
is going to be fun. Let's let's turn it up
to twelve. That's something I've always learned from seen it.
How do you take what they give you and turn
it into gold?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
And it's a lot of work. I mean, you have
to fully commit.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
There's times that I have to sit back and kind
of take twenty or thirty minutes of getting my head
in the space of like going out there and just
being disheveled and a total disaster. Like I would walk
to the ring and people are legit trying to hand
me twenty dollars bills.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I had a lady in Houston.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I was leaving the building in Houston and a woman
shoved money in the window and I was like, I
don't I.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Don't need your money.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Like you know Jacob, he's one of the Foxing that's
like he sent me a message that his daughter wanted
to give me her allowance because she felt so bad
for me.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Like it's I mean, I was all in on that.
And then I think Happy Corbyn was.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
The one that I really had to, you know, go okay,
this is not my favorite, like.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
How do I make this awesome?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
And like the Vegas thing was so fun and I
did massive numbers on social with winning the money back,
but I had the music like they were playing it.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I was like, this is a joke.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
This is this is my music, right, and they're like,
yeah it is.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
I can't walk out this door to that.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Like and then Hunter, you know, gave me a thing
like he was like, you know, look look at Sean
Michaels He's like you would think you hear that the
first time, Like, really, this is what you want and
now it's one of the greatest things of all times
what you make of it. And so you know, Hunter
was a guy who really opened my eyes to that.
He was like, you know, it's what you make of it,
and I've always done that. That was like one of
(21:47):
the harder ones because I am a little more like
rock and roll. Give me my motorcycle, you know, my bourbon,
my tequila, my meat. But so that that was a
different one. But I had all the ma too, So
that worked out well. I like those doors. I just
you know, I live in Florida and married to Puerto
Rican so I need my my beach at But.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
So that worked out well. So that was that was great.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
And then you know, then kind of the tides changed
when everything was changing the w B and we went
to the JBL route and I think that, you know,
it struggled.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
I can't put my finger on why it struggled.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I think that people and John and myself wanted more
out of like this.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
I wanted John to be able.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
To decapitate a few people, and it was a you know,
it's a process of getting in back in the ring
and getting doing that, you know, and he was kind
of just became like a mouthpiece for me and an introduction,
you know, kind of kind of thing where he would
get the crowd all around that for me. But I
think we all kind of just wanted a little bit
(22:49):
more from that and it.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Just didn't click. I mean, it is you know, I'll
take the fall for it.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I'm happily to do that because JB is one of
the greatest of all times, actually one of the greatest
heels of all time. And sometimes things just don't click.
It is what it is, and that was one of them.
But there was like a moment where he hit Bobby
Lashley in one of our matches and you heard the
crowd like, Oh, that's it, that's.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
What we want more of.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
But it was like we had to walk a line
because you know, it's just one of those things. And
so when that didn't click, it was time to rebuild.
It was time to kind of start over. So it's
been another evolution where I went back to you know, nxted.
They asked if I want to go work Carmelo Hayes
down there for a month, and I was like yeah,
I'd love to, Like I'm not doing anything on main
(23:34):
roster right now, let's go we figure out what I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
And then I got down there and got around Sean.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
And you know Baldo and Russo the writer and Terry
Taylor and like it just the energy down there is special.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Man, if you.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Walk in that door and you want to create, you
want to work, and you want to evolve, and you
want to make this special because all these dudes are
so hungry down there, like they want to get to
the main roster. So now they got a guy who's
been out there for you know, eight or nine years
coming back into their house, and so it elevates them,
and it elevates me because I got to keep up
with these dudes. Like I had the first match, I'm like, whoa,
(24:11):
this is a different pace, Like we're moving here, like
this is fast.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
And so I was like.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Jumping on the peloton and going to boxing and doing
all these things to really ramp up my cardio. And
I was like, man, I don't want to hang with
these dudes, like I gotta I gotta have my cardio
and check. And I did that and it was fun.
But having Sean and Matt Bloom and Russo and Terry
and Norman. I mean, everybody in that building is so
special getting behind you and going, Okay, what do you
(24:36):
want to do?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Let's first let to ask if I can stay.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Here for a few months, like let me rebuild here,
Like let's let's pay all that I've done and get
rid of. And then that's where we came up with
kind of like that burn the ships, like let's throw
everything in an incinerator, burn all these old characters, let's
start over, and let's be who I am. And that's
why I think this evolutionist character I'm on now the
audience like loves because it's very authentic, Like this is
(25:02):
the first time in my career. You know, I've been
doing a bunch of dark matches lately, trying to get
back in the mixt on on the roster, and they're
chanting my name the whole time, whether it's a singles
match like I had last week, or it was with
you know, tag match with with proof. You know, they're
they're chanting my name that they're wanting to see me
beat people up, and they're they're buying it when I
know that, you know, we're there at the end of
(25:22):
that stuff with the JBO, Like, I don't think anybody,
even the Happy Orbit, nobody was expecting me to win
matches like going to wrestle Meing Againstdrew mcintatt. Nobody expected
me to win that match. They all knew Drew was
gonna win. We're going to give me the show, but
they all knew the outcome prior to starting. So for
me to get back to a place where they expect
me to win and do big things is huge. And
(25:44):
so having all those guys in the NXT get behind
me and you know, Hunter allowing me to stay there
for a while and rebuild and do those things was
really special because I think it not only did light
a fire that like reinvigorated everything that I'm doing, but
I think it a lot of brought a lot of
authenticity to me and what I'm presenting to the audience,
(26:06):
which is why I think they connect so well with
it right now, because they're getting a true I see
it on social they're like, man, this is the real
Baron corbun Like, this is a dude I want to
hang out with. Is a dude I want to watch
kick people's ass, And this is a dude that I'm
going to support. So it's really awesome and I owe
all that to you know, Haunter and Sean and everybody
in the NXT.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, I mean that's I think that's for me, like
what I get from the character, even the work you
did with the Paulo Cruz and even like the stuff
with brom Braker, Like there was definitely a level of
authenticity to you being true to yourself.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, I've heard I've heard Bruce and those guys say
all the time, like the most popular characters are who
you are as an individual, and certain pieces of that
turned up to eleven, right, And I feel like that's
what you're doing, and you're accentuating a really well. Like
I saw the Paris crowd, man, they were like that
was one of the coolst things, Like just from a
personal level, Like you know, that's that's freaking huge, man,
(26:56):
Like that must have been overwhelming in that moment to
hear them chancing for.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
You on mostiple level.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yeah, it was unexpected number one, Like I had no
idea and like when my music hit, like I said
that the way.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
That place blew, I was like, what who do they
think is here? Like that that can't be for me.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
And then it was like, like I said, standing in
the ring looking across it at Rick Booze and I
was like shaking my head.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
I was like, I'm sorry, dude, you're screwed like I have.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
There's there's legit nothing I can do in this moment
to fix this, like yeah, it is what it is.
And like I had to back up too because like
like you're.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Getting that lump in your throat. I was like, I'm
might shed a too standing here in the middle of
the ring like that time much it moved me.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
It was crazy, and you know the YouTuber that that
told me that, you know, be ready that might happen.
You know, he's like, it's they appreciate your work, like
they feel like you've been held down a little or
whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
You know.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
I attribute to like a kind of the Dean of
Bryant movement a little bit of where like they were
like the man's holding him down, like let's get behind us.
And that was the biggest movement. I mean, mine's a
small percentage of that, but his was, you know, earth shaking.
But the same with KOFE, like it just becomes this
organic thing and it can't be stopped when it goes
that way. So that's what I feel like. It's a
(28:15):
minute version of those, but it's carried over. It's carried
over to the States and NXT. And the stuff with
Braun was so natural and fun where we were just
like locker room.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I think it was funny because Russo is like, I.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Always give Raun a lot of trouble, like a younger
brother football locker room buddies like pick on him a
little bit. He's a little sensitive sometimes, so I can
get him rowed up pretty quick and it's a lot
of fun to do that to irritate him. So he's like,
I want that on camera. So a lot of our
stuff on camera was not scripted. It was not It
(28:47):
was just us kind of riffing and like even the
Wolf Dogs thing, like he said that to be funny
and then it's stuck and it became people still want that.
Like I would love, you know, to watch Braun. You know,
he just won the title again Monday night. I would
love to see him go on and be world champion,
and then a year and a half from now we
(29:07):
do a Wolf Dogs Reunited, Like let's get some tag
titles on the main roster's let's beat some people up,
or let's start a crew. Let's start a little motorcycle game.
He had a you know, he won up to me
on that motorcycle and the pay per view that we
did for an XT.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
You know, we could start a little motorcycle crew. That
would be cool.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
Like I've always thought that that would be fun to
have a little little biker game because it could be
on like multiple shows. You could have, you know, members
on Raw, members on SmackDown, you have Prospects and NXT
that where a little Prospects Patch. I think there'd be
something dope to starting a crew like that.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
But I think that would be I think that would
be really dope, I think, but also too like like
from another perspective, though, I could see if you're telling
that story from a power dynamic struggle, right, like, suppose
that Broad has that heavyweight title. Is there a possibility
for you to have that you know, almost like a
like a almost what was his name, Jackson Clay kind
(30:02):
of powow dynamic, right, Like, I really seal that taking
steam one of the things to see each other, Hey listening.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
I think I think it would I think it would
get over really well.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Man, I think I think Hunter, if you're listening, I
know you listen to the show, so I appreciate you.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
If you're listening, I think this is money here.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
But I know that I've heard through the grape vine
that you have a reputation of being like one of
the safest workers in the industry, like one of the
safest people in the ring. I think a lot of
what you've done in your career is directly attributed to that,
Like your Kurt Angle's final match. Right, you do the
segment with the Rock on the very first SmackDown on Fox. Right,
you do the whole thing with Becky Lynch that the explosive, controversial,
(30:39):
you know, move with her. Yeah, do you see yourself
in a position where you could potentially be in that
last run with John Cena and I I think you could,
But I would see.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
I would love it. I would.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
I mean in any moment you get to spend in
a ring or backstage or anything with John is extremely valuable.
The dude is on my mount Rush more than forever
will be as a human being and as a WW superstar.
Like there's just he's a special enigma. If you will
with a wealth of knowledge that there's there's no one
with a better mind for what we do. And I
(31:13):
got to learn a lot from him, and there's little
tidbits I've taken from my whole career from John, And
when I get frustrated, I can call them and go
to the gym and work out or whatever it is,
and I can learn or he can tell me to
step back, get out of my head, or you know,
all of those things. So to be a part in
any aspect, whether it's as a teammate or against John,
(31:34):
I would love that. But yeah, I mean, I pride
myself in having the ability in the ring to look
like I'm killing you without actually killing me.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
But there's a special art to it.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
And I think when people watch what I do, you know,
you get that kind of just laced them in the
face or he just dumped them this way, like I
can take them.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
I can suspend that that belief that what we.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Do is you know, entertainment and make it look fair
real without actually killing a dude. So, like I said,
I think I'm one of the best at that, and
I take pride in that, and I want to be
able to go out there and put on a match
with a seth rawlins or a kurt angle, you know,
five nights a week if I have to, and I
want them to want to be in there. I mean
there's there's times is I won't put names out there,
(32:19):
but we're in a big tag match and they're screaming
tag corbinback and you're killing me so so so there's
there's there's that, and it's it's something to be proud
of because not not everybody can do that.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Last question, what do you think Baron Corban's legacy will
be with w W A.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Man? I asked myself the same thing all the time.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
I think there's a bunch of different logos and stuff
that people would attribute to it. Different levels people would
attribute to to me and what I do, whether it's
angry Internet fans, you know, thinking I'm a bottom level
guy or at best mid level, and then there's people
thing I deserve to be World champions. I think my
legacy will be, you know, a guy that can be
(33:09):
put in any situation and make it work. I think again,
that's that's something not everybody can do. Man, that's a
whole I must dropped a flow that's.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Like I would I would have believe that it's fine.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
You're good.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
You know, I just what I wanted to be and
what it will be maybe different.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
You know, I would love this to be a guy
that gets invited to the Hall of Fame in ten
years from now, you know, as having a long career,
and I like to I.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Mean, to me, Caine is one of the greatest of
all time.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
And you know, he's been world champ for a very
one time, for a very short period of time, but
he's known as a guy who always kind of was
in the mix. He was a legitimate competitor. He was never,
you know, anywhere near the bottom of the roster. He
adapted the corporate Kane and all of those things and
(34:05):
the funny stuff with youan of Bryant, Like I would
just like to be kind of that.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Army Swiss knife.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
I guess in the fan's eyes, if you will like
a guy who can do anything and it will entertain people.
I mean, that's my ultimate goals, het and entertain people,
whether they're cheering for me, or they're throwing their drinks
and popcorn at me, or you're a ninety eight year
old woman giving me the middle finger, whatever it is.
And like I said, I want to get to that,
you know, fifteen year mark or whatever. So I don't know,
(34:33):
but I would like my my if I'm looking at
it in my eyes, I want.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
To just speak considered like an incredible entertainment.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
It's awesome to be able to do this and travel
the world and get to do the things they do.
I mean Monday or is at the Ari Zone a
Cordan's football game with a couple of the UFC guys
and you know, being a part of that and then
getting good stuff to help you special Olympics or you know,
youth or be a part of that. The commun of
these stuff like that's also important. So it's not a
very good answer of like straight to the point of
(35:06):
what I want my legs to be because it's kind
of all over the place, like my career has been
where you know, I'm in the main event for two
years and now I'm fighting back to get some time
on TV to prove myself once again. I prove my
talent and my skill and I truly believe I can
hang with anyone on the roster, in the ring or
on the mic. So just you know, find like able
to get back to that spot and.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
We don't know. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
I think that was a perfect answer, though, Fred, if I,
if I may, if I may say, you so myself.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
Now, it's hard, it's hard to ask, you know. That's
that's a difficult question to answer.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
I mean it's I mean, if you look at a
Roman Reigne, what's your legacy?
Speaker 4 (35:41):
One of the greatest chambers of all time, one of
the greatest heels of all time, one of.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
The greatest baby based of all time.
Speaker 4 (35:46):
I think I've accepted that that's not going to be
my my legacy.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
So how do I make the best of what I have?
And I think I'm doing.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
That if I may, sir, it may not be your legacy,
not yet, but I.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Think it should be. There's always an not yet.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Well listen, man, where and one quick thing I promised
before we wrap up here.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
I hate I was.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Going to say that was That's what I was going
to ask, is about your coffee company. I wanted to
make sure plug that here, make sure people know where
to find it.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
I bought some myself. It's absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I answer it so good.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Where can people pick it up?
Speaker 1 (36:19):
What got you into the coffee business and what made
you decide to go to go through it. Also, I
have to apologize about sending you that message that time
before I came to Tampa, insulting you by almost bringing
you a coffee.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, I sent it.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
After I said it, I was like, after I said it,
I was like, what the hell was I thinking?
Speaker 3 (36:36):
What the hell's wrong with it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:38):
I mean the easiest place is to if you go
to my Baron corbyn wwe Instagram, there's a link to it.
Open Air Coffee is my coffee company, Open Air Coffee
top sheet and you can go to the website, or
you can go to the Instagram page which is a
coffee roasters and pick it up with I mean, what
got me into that? I'm a big wine, whiskey, tequila guy.
(37:00):
I like the flavor of profiles. I like the different regions.
All the stuff comes from the different flavors. And I
can't always obviously be having you know, drinks and trying
to lean up a little bit. It's cut into my
booze for sure. So coffee kind of fills that gap,
I guess sometimes with like really diving in and learning
about it and creating and roasting, and it's just become
(37:22):
like a. It was a hobby and now it's turning
into a business because it does well. You can subscribe,
you can just buy bags. It doesn't really matter how
you go about it. But you know, we're getting coffee
in Costa Rica. I got one from coming in from
Coago right now. I got one from Nicaragua. I got
one from egop, you know, getting to roast them and
pasting different profiles and all of those things. And then
(37:44):
now we're opening eight thousand square foot community coffee roaster
here in campus. To me and some of the guys
from Yellow Rooster, we're going to open that and it's
going to be a place where anybody going to coffee
shop or a micro roasting company, they can come and
roast the coffee there.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
Buy their coffee, bag their coffee.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Like it's going to be a one stop shop for
your coffee business, and it's going to help a lot
of people in the coffee world because you know, owning
a coffee roaster is extensive. I mean they're like for
a big thirty five kilo roaster at one hundred and
eighty grand. Like, yeah, coffee shops you can't. Not everybody
can do that, but if they have a passion for it.
Now they can just come to our facility and rent
it for a couple of bucks and you know, save
(38:26):
them the overhead on a roaster on a separate building
for their roaster, and storage for their coffee and all
that can all be done here.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
That's amazing. Man, can't can't wait to see it when
it's also to open up. Barren Gorman, I want to
thank you again so much for your time. Sorry, I
really appreciate it. Always great to see you and we'll catch.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Up against So I got a really sure this is good.
Speaker 5 (38:46):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
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