May 21, 2025 • 29 mins
A talented New Zealand TV producer’s move across the ocean sparked an inspiring entrepreneurial journey. David Calderwood, Founder of Euro-Pacific Digital Media, shares how authentic relationships and a rich family legacy fueled his business success.
David’s entrepreneurial roots run deep—from his great-grandfather’s 1850s photography studio to his parents’ hat-making business. Starting in New Zealand’s TV industry, his marketing degree and production skills paved the way for greater achievements.
Meeting American producer Lisa was a turning point. After relocating to the U.S., David’s company secured a major client, SmithKline Beecham, coordinating shoots worldwide. This success established Euro-Pacific as a leading digital media firm in America.
David discusses unique staffing challenges—managing crews and balancing freelancers with full-time staff. Over an 18-year partnership with Lisa, he navigated these complexities while growing the business.
Now, David is pivoting toward white-label services and reducing hands-on production, a strategic move to leverage his expertise and sustain growth. His story shows that aligning business with authentic values leads to lasting success.
Key Takeaways:
- Entrepreneurial heritage: How family history inspired David’s journey.
- Love’s impact: The role of personal relationships in business growth.
- Industry insights: Handling production staffing and operational challenges.
- Smart pivots: Evolving business models for sustainability.
About David Calderwood:
With over 30 years of experience as a director and producer, specializing in digital media, ecommerce websites, search engine marketing (SEM), ad campaign development, and live streaming video for corporate events—and still the occasional TV commercial—Dave brings extensive expertise to the field.
Dave is a Kiwi (he grew up in New Zealand) and started out in the television commercial market, working with major advertising agencies and Fortune 500 companies. After arriving in the US, he founded Euro-Pacific Film & Video Productions, which focused on providing video and visual marketing services to leading corporate organizations and national TV broadcasters, leveraging his international experience and connections.
Dave is currently a Florida resident with a very active client base throughout the US. He is also a Google Partner, as well as an authorized partner and reseller with GoDaddy and Zoho.
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Marc Bernstein (00:40):
Good morning America.
How are you?
I'm Marc Bernstein.
This is Founders Forum and wehave a great show today.
We actually have a couple ofgreat shows lined up that we're
doing today, and I'll introducethe people in the audience to
you in a minute.
Just thinking, though, aboutwell, let me introduce them now.
Actually, I have David and Ihave Arnie in the studio.
(01:00):
I'll officially introduce themin a couple of minutes, but I've
been thinking a lot aboutthere's a lot going on in the
news.
There's a lot of chaos, whichwas promised by our current
administration, the UnitedStates, and right now it's about
tariffs.
I've mentioned this a couple oftimes on the show.
We don't get into politics andwe're not going to talk about
(01:21):
the good or bad of any of that,but in the midst of this, I saw
a quote from a friend of mine onFacebook this morning, and it's
about authenticity, and that'sa word that's occurred a lot to
me in some of the personaldevelopment work that I do and
things recently.
So with that, I wanted to getyour guys' thoughts, that word,
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what it means to you, David.
David Calderwood (01:46):
I'll start with you well, it's interesting
because it brings me back toauthenticity authentication,
which is a big thing whensecurity with internet today.
Marc Bernstein (02:00):
Because you would have a different
perspective.
David Calderwood (02:02):
Yeah, even though one of the biggest things
with anything in the Internetis security, and it's overlooked
so much and you need to knowhow authentic things are, and
that spreads through your entirebusiness.
So that's why I take from that.
That's great, I love that.
Marc Bernstein (02:22):
Arnie any thoughts on it?
Announcer (02:24):
When I think of authenticity, I think of truth,
and that's for me the bottomline.
Marc Bernstein (02:31):
That's great, so interesting.
I think we can get into thatmore when we do your show.
Actually, and this is what myfriend Scott Merrill said I
don't have his authorization touh talk about this, but since he
put it publicly on facebook, Idon't think there's a problem
(02:51):
with it.
And he he wrote aboutauthenticity and said with the
rise of the internet, socialmedia and now ai, the most
valued trait in a human being isauthenticity.
But the way he describes it andI would agree with this is
authenticity isn't just being.
He describes it, and I wouldagree with this is authenticity
isn't just being real or sayingwhat's on your mind.
It's commitment to living inalignment with your highest
values, principles and purpose.
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It requires deep work,self-awareness and the courage
to share your genuine self withothers.
So it's a lot more than justlike oh yeah, I'm authentic, I
say what's?
Announcer (03:25):
on my mind.
You know, because you hear thatall the time right.
Marc Bernstein (03:27):
So I think there's a little more to it.
Anyway.
So now let me officiallyintroduce our guest today, David
Calderwood.
He is senior digital producerwith Euro-Pacific Digital Media
and founder, of course, ofEuro-Pacific Digital Media,
since we have founders on theshow With over 30 years of
experience as a director andproducer specializing in digital
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media, e-commerce websites,search engine Marc or SEM, ad
campaign development and livestreaming video for corporate
events and still the occasionalTV commercial.
David is a Kiwi, meaning, if youdidn't know this, grew up in
New Zealand and started out inthe television commercial Marc,
working with a major advertisingagencies and Fortune 500
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companies.
After arriving in the US, hestarted Euro-Pacific Film and
Video Productions, which focusedmore on providing video and
visual marketing services toleading corporate organizations
and national TV broadcasters.
Relying on his internationalexperience and connections,
David is currently a Floridaresident, actually in Babcock
(04:34):
Ranch, which we have discussed abit on the show as is our other
in-person person today, arnieEastburn, and as am I on a
Snowbird basis, and he has avery active client base
throughout the US.
He's also a Google partner andauthorized partner and reseller
with Goat Daddy and Zoho.
So welcome, David.
Oh, thank you, David.
Announcer (04:57):
So to be an entrepreneur.
Marc Bernstein (04:58):
There's all different ways people get there
and before I know your story,we're going to talk about how
you got from working forcompanies to becoming an
entrepreneur in the U?
S.
But is there, I hadn't askedyou this, so I'm going to ask
you this one Is there anythingin your family or a background
that would indicate that you hadentrepreneurial lenience,
(05:20):
leanings or tendencies?
David Calderwood (05:22):
Well, yes, A little bit.
I've been working a lot on myfamily tree recently going back
and that goes way, way, way backto like 950, but I won't go
into that.
But looking in, mygreat-grandfather had one of the
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very first photographybusinesses in the United Kingdom
back in the 1850s, whenphotography was just starting
out.
So he was obviously anentrepreneur at the time.
Can you find some photos?
Oh yeah, I've got lots ofphotographs that he had taken or
studio took.
And yeah, the studio was Hunterand Sons, so his sons obviously
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went into the business as well.
So there's two generationsright there and then my
grandfather on the other side ofthe family he owned about three
or four stores, also in theUnited Kingdom.
And he had apothecaries, whichis basically, I won't say snake
(06:29):
oil sales, but he sold all sortsof things that could fix all
ailments.
Today they call them pharmacies, but back then they were
apothecaries and I believe hehad three or four of them and
very much an entrepreneur fromthat point of view and I know a
lot of the other stuff he haddone over the years which, um,
(06:52):
he was into the business worldand so I threw I threw a
curveball with that questionyeah and uh, but I.
Marc Bernstein (06:59):
It's interesting because usually we find that
when we yeah when we, when we,when we dig a little bit on this
.
David Calderwood (07:04):
Actually, you know, I'm also forgetting that
my mother and father actuallyhad shops as well.
Well, there you go.
Now I'm remembering my parents,when I was a baby, had a sort
of a corner store with ice creamsales and stuff.
They had that, and for manyyears my mother ran, owned and
(07:26):
ran a business in Auckland forprobably 20 years which sold
ponchos.
Initially my father bought atan auction one day, bought up
all these felt hats, the blocksthat they make them on the old
boulder hats and top hats from acompany that had gone bankrupt
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and started producing them, butthey made them in all strange
colors and started selling themthrough their shop, Sold tens of
thousands of these things, andso they were also entrepreneurs
too Interesting.
Marc Bernstein (08:00):
It actually reminds me of a story someone I
had on a few months ago namedJanet Bernstein no relation who
I met, who's English, and herfather had a candy store and he
died young and the imprint thatwas left on her was she loved
this candy store and she said atthat age she wasn't really
interested in sports, she wasn'treally interested in anything
else she was interested in.
(08:20):
I'm going to have my ownbusiness someday and it didn't
work out that way.
She'd done other things alongthe way and her life took all
kinds of twists and curves andthen, through family
circumstances, she had to go towork and she started an
organizing company which isprobably the largest of its type
you know people haven't gettingready to move primarily from
their homes to other homes andum, and probably the largest and
(08:45):
it's best of Philly andPhiladelphia and that kind of
thing.
But it all traced back to herfather's candy store.
You know nickel and dime candystore I guess it's Pence's and
something else in England butPence's and Pounds or something
like that.
Announcer (08:59):
But, anyway.
Marc Bernstein (09:00):
So let's then talk about the journey.
So tell me what you did priorto coming to america and prior
to starting the business yeah,so my initial um.
David Calderwood (09:11):
Initially I started working out for a
television company I guess isthe best way to describe them
though a film video productioncompany in New Zealand, and I
had been through anapprenticeship program at the
local public television systemand I was offered a job there.
But I got offered a better jobat the private company.
(09:32):
So I went there and I was therefor about eight years and moved
through.
I had actually done a degree inmarketing.
So when I was working at thistelevision company and I was
working in production, one stagethe general manager came to me
and said you have a degree inmarketing, why don't we have you
(09:53):
working in sales and marketing?
I said, oh, I like production.
And he says I think you mightbe better in this and he moved
me over into that and I becamevery successful and as one of
their top sales and marketingpeople.
And then I left that company andpurchased a.
(10:13):
I actually went to work as afreelancer with another company
and in between I bought my firstcompany, which was a crewing
company called Film Cruise, andwhat that did is it was a
company where you could I hadall these production people
listed and if you were making afeature film or something, you
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would call us up and then wewould book the crew and send
them out for you.
And so when I came to the USand I was looking for something
to do I already had clients inthe US when I was in New Zealand
and one of my first calls I gotwas from SmithKline Beecham,
which is the pharmaceuticalcompany.
Marc Bernstein (10:52):
You already had your crews as well.
David Calderwood (10:54):
And I already had the international crews and
they needed to do a shoot inevery SmithKline facility on the
same day around the world.
And I put that whole thingtogether and it came off without
any issues and a bigpublication here wrote up an
article about it and the phonestarted ringing and I had a
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production business workingimmediately.
Marc Bernstein (11:21):
Right, so you were so.
You were so when you boughtyour first company, you became,
that's when you became anentrepreneur, correct, but when
you had the need, that's whenyou became a founder of a
company.
David Calderwood (11:31):
Yes, that's a good way.
Yeah, that was the first one Ifounded, right.
Marc Bernstein (11:33):
So, so, let's, so, let's, let's talk about why
you came to America, becauseI've actually met the reason you
came to America and that's howI met you so intelligent film
producer or television producer,and then we started dating
internationally and it came downto well, we can't keep moving
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backwards and forwards betweenNew Zealand and the US.
David Calderwood (12:12):
So I said well , come to the US, let's see how
that works out.
And that's how I ended up hereand the rest is history.
Marc Bernstein (12:19):
Her name is Lisa , not to give away secrets, but
that's how I met you and tell mecause she's in the business.
So you two have worked together.
Why don't we talk about thatfor a minute and then we'll take
a quick break and talk aboutthe sort of the development of
this company?
David Calderwood (12:35):
Yeah, so Lisa was working for a company in New
York as a producer.
I was freelancing and runningmy crewing business and building
that and so I was working witha lot of networks like Good
Morning America was a big clientof mine and a lot of corporate
companies like American Expressand other companies like that
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and a lot of corporate companieslike American Express and other
companies like that and movinginto that whole corporate
business we eventually it was apretty successful business right
from the start and Lisa wasstill working on her job and
then we moved to New Jersey andwe decided to have children and
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she was commuting into the cityevery day from New Jersey and
one day she said I've just, Ican't do this anymore.
It's like driving me out thewall.
She was stuck in traffic forfive hours, you know, and I said
well, come and work with aEuro-Pacific.
You know, at that stage Ialready had two or three people
working for us.
So she did, and we workedtogether in Euro-Pacific for
almost 18 years and then shewent back into another company.
Marc Bernstein (13:43):
What a great business and love story.
So with that, we're going totake a short break and we'll see
you all in a minute again onFounders Forum.
Announcer (13:52):
Euro-Pacific Digital Media delivers customized video,
search engine optimization andwebsite hosting services adapted
to your organization's specificneeds.
We will create a successfulcross-platform strategy
combining video, web design,social media and digital
marketing.
Euro-Pacific will craftrelevant digital media content
(14:14):
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Marc Bernstein (15:14):
So we're back on Founders Forum with our guest
today, David Calderderwood, andwe have arnie eastburn in the
studio with us.
He's going to be quiet.
He's quietly observing, um, andwe were just talking, David,
about, uh, lisa coming into thebusiness.
So what happened after that?
You grew the business fromthere.
Yeah, so, and I'm interested inalso I'm sorry also challenges
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you had along the way in growingit, because that's a common
theme on the show and inentrepreneurialism in general.
David Calderwood (15:44):
Yeah.
So one of the things with videoproduction for people who don't
understand how it all worksit's very labor intensive, but
it's also not where you needpeople all the time.
You need people for a project,so that's.
You know, they come in for twoweeks and they're working 20
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hours a day and you're churningstuff out and then you don't
need them another for six months.
So it's not like you can go andhire people and just have them
working there because they sitaround doing nothing.
Now, we did hire certain peoplebecause we had edit facilities
where we had contractual workthat we were churning out and we
needed people for that.
But if we went and were doingsomething for Good Morning
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America, for example, we wentand did their what they call
Sweeps Week show, which is wherethey get all the ratings, and
it's a one-week show and they doit somewhere exciting.
We did one for them out ofEurope.
We had 45 crews working for usfor two weeks.
You're not hiring those people.
They're all freelance, andusing freelancers opens up it's
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a whole other thing, because youpay more for them but you don't
have to cover the costs ofhealthcare and all the other
things, but you're still payingall your taxes and adds a lot of
paperwork and liabilityinsurance.
Believe it or not, but we didhave one stage we were up to
about.
I think we had about 15full-time employees on staff.
Marc Bernstein (17:16):
It was a lot for that type of company.
David Calderwood (17:17):
It was, but we complemented that with an, all
you know, with a lot offreelancers staff as well and I
think on peak we probably andand also that was on our crewing
side, the crewing business.
That actually led to a fewissues because some of the crew
that we used, who are allfreelancers and I I mean we had
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over 1,000 people on the booksand some of those people would
be working maybe 60% of the timefor us and that moves them into
employee status but they're notemployees.
So we were insisting thatpeople had to be incorporated,
had their own companies and wewere hiring their companies, not
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them, for these projects, andwe were very strict on that.
And we actually sold off thecrewing business a week before
9-11.
And we had a very Timing yeahwell, good and bad timing
because part of the dealincluded that we were going to
get revenue share for threeyears and that business sort of
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dried up for three years.
But part of the reason we soldit was that the company who
purchased it from us had apayroll company and they were
able to put all the freelancersinto payroll because our
insurance company was reallyquite concerned about how many
freelancers we were running, youknow close to a thousand,
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without them being employees.
And he said you know theyweren't sure whether they cover
the liability on that, so thatsort of drove us to sell part of
our company Interesting.
Marc Bernstein (19:00):
So that was a challenge and you came out of
that challenge by working withfreelancers.
I understand, right, yeah.
David Calderwood (19:09):
So to this day , we don't have any two people,
basically myself and my wife,but other than that, we use
freelancers because we workaround projects on a per-project
basis.
So if I need a graphic designer, I hire a graphic designer for
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that project, and that could bea month, it could be three
months.
Marc Bernstein (19:34):
So you're in a creative business and you work,
obviously remotely, becausethere's a lot of technology
involved in what you do today.
What is your?
We always ask, and you'vechosen your three-year vision.
We always talk about what'syour vision for the future.
This is the kind of work youcan do into your 90s and beyond
if you wanted to.
So what are your thoughts aboutthat?
David Calderwood (19:57):
So, yeah, I looked at that and I thought
three-year vision, what am Igoing to do?
And part of it is to narrowdown on the physical stuff that
I'm doing, so, in a way, be moreremote, right, right.
Marc Bernstein (20:17):
Less in person.
David Calderwood (20:18):
Right.
Not having to lug equipmentaround and that kind of thing,
yep, and also white labelingother people's services, gotcha,
and I've actually been doingquite a bit of that for the last
few years so I have a lot offriends that are attorneys.
Marc Bernstein (20:31):
I'm an attorney by background.
It's interesting becauseeveryone is figuring out how to
do that in their own businesses.
So as you get older, becausethey can still produce business,
these guys are always inconnections with people, but
they don't necessarily want tokeep going putting on a tie to
do that in their own businesses.
So as you get older, becausethey can still produce business,
these guys are always inconnections with people, but
they don't necessarily want tokeep going putting on a tie and
going to court.
To the extent people do thatand all that you know and do the
intense labor of it.
So they are farming out toyounger attorneys and things
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like that, and I see it in alldifferent kinds of businesses
going on.
So it seems to be a trend forthe future.
I did want to ask you how didyou and Lisa end up in Florida?
David Calderwood (21:01):
from New Jersey, I'm going to ask you
that question.
That was more just logistics.
We'd sold our house in theJersey Shore and we actually
rented.
We were only going to rent fora couple of years.
While we looked around to findsomething, we just wanted to get
out of New Jersey because ofthe tax rates and find somewhere
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with lower taxes.
Marc Bernstein (21:25):
Where were you at the Jersey Shore?
I don't know if I ever asked.
David Calderwood (21:27):
We were in a place called Shrewsbury which is
near Red Bank oh, near Red Bank, yeah and yeah.
We sold the house and then, ofcourse, covid hit, so we
actually ended up renting forabout five years and that
changed a lot of stuff and westarted looking during COVID
actively and we went to NorthCarolina, south Carolina,
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georgia, kept going south, gotto Florida, saw a lot of places
would be like there and we weregoing to look at Arizona, but we
found a place in like there andwe were going to look at
Arizona but we found a place in.
Actually, I was trying to findsomething that was not in a
flood zone.
Then we ended up where we are,at Babcock Ranch, and we saw a
whole bunch of houses that wereally liked and started bidding
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on stuff.
Marc Bernstein (22:15):
So you're drawing the Babcock Ranch to
avoid hurricanes, to a certainextent, pretty much, which is
our story as well.
Stuff.
So you're drawing the badconquerants to avoid hurricanes
to a certain extent, pretty muchour story as well, yeah, um, so
you well, we always ask somefun questions at the end, and
I'm going to ask you the secondone.
First, because I'm intrigued asto why you picked this one.
So I'm sure there's a storybehind it.
So what is your favorite song?
David Calderwood (22:38):
Well, it was interesting.
I saw that question and Ithought, Ooh, what is it?
And I have so many favoritesongs and.
I I really like albums.
So yeah, Pink Floyd's Dark Sideof the Moon.
Marc Bernstein (22:54):
Ah, it's funny, I was reading.
David Calderwood (22:56):
I just read something about it, yeah, but if
I just had to do a song, itwould be Bohemian Rhapsody.
Ah, and there is a reason forthat One.
I love the song.
When it came out, one of a kind, it was the first real video
commercial or video music reelMusic video.
(23:16):
Yeah, that was the first musicvideo ever.
It was yes, I Yep, that was thefirst music video ever.
It was yes, I mean, it wasselling, designed to sell songs.
Oh, came out in 1974 orsomething.
Marc Bernstein (23:30):
Really that long ago?
Yeah, oh, interesting, Becausewhen I think of the first music
video, it wasn't really thefirst music video, it's the
first one that MTV played.
Do you know what that was?
David Calderwood (23:48):
Yeah, I do.
Music video wasn't really thefirst music video.
It's the first one that mtvplayed.
Do you know what that was?
Video, I do video killed theradius.
Marc Bernstein (23:52):
Uh with um the police, was it no with uh sting,
sting.
David Calderwood (23:53):
No the buggles , roger saves the day yeah so,
but that was not the first TVmusic show either.
That was a copy of a NewZealand TV show called I can't
remember the name of it.
Mtv openly has listed on theirthing that it's based on the New
Zealand television show.
Marc Bernstein (24:14):
Well, they also say it was based on.
They consulted with MichaelNesmith, formerly of the Monkees
, who was a big music video guyand he had a show called
Elephant Parts and theybasically modeled it on that as
the story I've always heard,according to, I think, john
Sykes I forget the guy who wasthe original creator of MTV, but
(24:37):
I wouldn't be surprised, no hebought the rights from new
zealand from television newzealand very interesting yeah.
So, um, speaking of pink floyd,real quick, I just got to tell
you.
I read this morning a thing putout by David gilmore saying
that, you know, roger waterswalked off saying he was pink
floyd, and he says I object tothat because I, you know, I feel
like I was a lot of pink floydas well, and I think Richard
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Wright maybe I don't know if hedied because he was talking
about how important he was toDark Side of the Moon that that
album would have never been.
There were several key songsthat would have never happened
if it weren't for Richard Wright.
And the way he said it.
He says it was like Walk inPeace, my friend, or something
like that.
(25:23):
I don't know if he died or Idon't know what happened with
richard wright, but some reasonthis was he just posted this and
I just saw it anyway.
Oh, he died.
Oh, he died.
He died in 2008.
Richard wright, oh, I guess.
So I don't know, maybe he was,maybe it was on his birthday or
something.
He posted it interesting, so Idon't.
I guess I didn't realize that.
Um, so I one question I wantedto go back to that I skipped was
(25:44):
the challenges for your futurevision, in other words, in terms
of white labeling, services andworking more.
What challenges do you see interms of getting there?
David Calderwood (25:55):
it's.
You're competing with a lot ofother people also white
labelling similar services.
We already white label a numberof services where we're in the
top 10 sellers and you've got toget into those top groups.
Once you get in there, you geta lot of other stuff from them,
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from whoever you're reselling,because that's all you are.
You're a reseller in a way.
But the nice thing about allthe support services and that
are moved away from me I don'thave to worry about that.
It's just we find the clients,we sign them up and they
hopefully become long-termclients because we continue to
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receive income and revenue fromthat.
Marc Bernstein (26:41):
And it sounds like the challenge is you know
the competition, but it soundslike the way you overcome the
challenge is making sure you'reon the A-list.
Yeah.
David Calderwood (26:50):
And that's what you have to do, and so
you've got to focus only on oneor two of those.
And I have two at the momentand I'm looking to start a third
, and that's probably as many asI can handle.
Marc Bernstein (27:02):
Last question your favorite book or books.
David Calderwood (27:06):
Pretty much any science fiction book.
I'm a big science fictionreader and a lot of Did you read
as a kid.
Marc Bernstein (27:13):
Yeah, which ones did you like as a kid?
David Calderwood (27:17):
Oh Time Machine, oh um Time Machine.
Announcer (27:21):
Oh.
David Calderwood (27:21):
Time Machine.
Yeah, is that what it's called.
Announcer (27:24):
Yeah, you know the person.
David Calderwood (27:26):
I can blank out his name off the top of my
head.
Announcer (27:28):
Jules Verne no, no, no.
Marc Bernstein (27:29):
The other guy.
David Calderwood (27:30):
Well, I read Jules Verne's too as a kid, but
um oh Did.
Marc Bernstein (27:35):
Did you have Tom Swift in New Zealand?
No, there was a whole series ofTom Swift books about this guy
that jumped back, becoming anastronaut and doing all these
things.
No, that was my favorite.
David Calderwood (27:44):
Well, so On the Beach.
Have you heard of that?
This is one about the nuclearwar, that's actually required
reading what used to be in NewZealand for high school kids.
Oh wow, because it made yourealize that you live on an
island in the middle of thePacific Ocean and if there
really is a nuclear war, you maybe the last people alive.
Marc Bernstein (28:06):
So on that positive note HG.
David Calderwood (28:09):
Wells, hg Wells.
Thank you for that HG Wellsright, of course.
Marc Bernstein (28:13):
So, and what were his other big books?
Since you have it up, Roger, Idon't have it up.
David Calderwood (28:19):
He had a couple of them.
Oh yeah, yeah, but anyway, bigscience, that's my favorite one,
though, hg.
Marc Bernstein (28:24):
Wells the Time Machine.
So, for our listeners, go backand check out HG Wells again.
David Calderwood (28:28):
Yeah, HG Wells has written so many books and
they're all great.
Marc Bernstein (28:34):
Well, listen, I think we're out of time, so
thanks so much, David, for beinghere.
Great, interesting story.
We thank you all for listeningtoday to Founders Forum and we
look forward to seeing you againnext week.
David Calderwood (28:45):
Thank you.
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Marc Bernstein (00:40):
Good morning America.
How are you?
I'm Marc Bernstein.
This is Founders Forum and wehave a great show today.
We actually have a couple ofgreat shows lined up that we're
doing today, and I'll introducethe people in the audience to
you in a minute.
Just thinking, though, aboutwell, let me introduce them now.
Actually, I have David and Ihave Arnie in the studio.
(01:00):
I'll officially introduce themin a couple of minutes, but I've
been thinking a lot aboutthere's a lot going on in the
news.
There's a lot of chaos, whichwas promised by our current
administration, the UnitedStates, and right now it's about
tariffs.
I've mentioned this a couple oftimes on the show.
We don't get into politics andwe're not going to talk about
(01:21):
the good or bad of any of that,but in the midst of this, I saw
a quote from a friend of mine onFacebook this morning, and it's
about authenticity, and that'sa word that's occurred a lot to
me in some of the personaldevelopment work that I do and
things recently.
So with that, I wanted to getyour guys' thoughts, that word,
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what it means to you, David.
David Calderwood (01:46):
I'll start with you well, it's interesting
because it brings me back toauthenticity authentication,
which is a big thing whensecurity with internet today.
Marc Bernstein (02:00):
Because you would have a different
perspective.
David Calderwood (02:02):
Yeah, even though one of the biggest things
with anything in the Internetis security, and it's overlooked
so much and you need to knowhow authentic things are, and
that spreads through your entirebusiness.
So that's why I take from that.
That's great, I love that.
Marc Bernstein (02:22):
Arnie any thoughts on it?
Announcer (02:24):
When I think of authenticity, I think of truth,
and that's for me the bottomline.
Marc Bernstein (02:31):
That's great, so interesting.
I think we can get into thatmore when we do your show.
Actually, and this is what myfriend Scott Merrill said I
don't have his authorization touh talk about this, but since he
put it publicly on facebook, Idon't think there's a problem
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with it.
And he he wrote aboutauthenticity and said with the
rise of the internet, socialmedia and now ai, the most
valued trait in a human being isauthenticity.
But the way he describes it andI would agree with this is
authenticity isn't just being.
He describes it, and I wouldagree with this is authenticity
isn't just being real or sayingwhat's on your mind.
It's commitment to living inalignment with your highest
values, principles and purpose.
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It requires deep work,self-awareness and the courage
to share your genuine self withothers.
So it's a lot more than justlike oh yeah, I'm authentic, I
say what's?
Announcer (03:25):
on my mind.
You know, because you hear thatall the time right.
Marc Bernstein (03:27):
So I think there's a little more to it.
Anyway.
So now let me officiallyintroduce our guest today, David
Calderwood.
He is senior digital producerwith Euro-Pacific Digital Media
and founder, of course, ofEuro-Pacific Digital Media,
since we have founders on theshow With over 30 years of
experience as a director andproducer specializing in digital
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media, e-commerce websites,search engine Marc or SEM, ad
campaign development and livestreaming video for corporate
events and still the occasionalTV commercial.
David is a Kiwi, meaning, if youdidn't know this, grew up in
New Zealand and started out inthe television commercial Marc,
working with a major advertisingagencies and Fortune 500
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companies.
After arriving in the US, hestarted Euro-Pacific Film and
Video Productions, which focusedmore on providing video and
visual marketing services toleading corporate organizations
and national TV broadcasters.
Relying on his internationalexperience and connections,
David is currently a Floridaresident, actually in Babcock
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Ranch, which we have discussed abit on the show as is our other
in-person person today, arnieEastburn, and as am I on a
Snowbird basis, and he has avery active client base
throughout the US.
He's also a Google partner andauthorized partner and reseller
with Goat Daddy and Zoho.
So welcome, David.
Oh, thank you, David.
Announcer (04:57):
So to be an entrepreneur.
Marc Bernstein (04:58):
There's all different ways people get there
and before I know your story,we're going to talk about how
you got from working forcompanies to becoming an
entrepreneur in the U?
S.
But is there, I hadn't askedyou this, so I'm going to ask
you this one Is there anythingin your family or a background
that would indicate that you hadentrepreneurial lenience,
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leanings or tendencies?
David Calderwood (05:22):
Well, yes, A little bit.
I've been working a lot on myfamily tree recently going back
and that goes way, way, way backto like 950, but I won't go
into that.
But looking in, mygreat-grandfather had one of the
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very first photographybusinesses in the United Kingdom
back in the 1850s, whenphotography was just starting
out.
So he was obviously anentrepreneur at the time.
Can you find some photos?
Oh yeah, I've got lots ofphotographs that he had taken or
studio took.
And yeah, the studio was Hunterand Sons, so his sons obviously
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went into the business as well.
So there's two generationsright there and then my
grandfather on the other side ofthe family he owned about three
or four stores, also in theUnited Kingdom.
And he had apothecaries, whichis basically, I won't say snake
(06:29):
oil sales, but he sold all sortsof things that could fix all
ailments.
Today they call them pharmacies, but back then they were
apothecaries and I believe hehad three or four of them and
very much an entrepreneur fromthat point of view and I know a
lot of the other stuff he haddone over the years which, um,
(06:52):
he was into the business worldand so I threw I threw a
curveball with that questionyeah and uh, but I.
Marc Bernstein (06:59):
It's interesting because usually we find that
when we yeah when we, when we,when we dig a little bit on this
.
David Calderwood (07:04):
Actually, you know, I'm also forgetting that
my mother and father actuallyhad shops as well.
Well, there you go.
Now I'm remembering my parents,when I was a baby, had a sort
of a corner store with ice creamsales and stuff.
They had that, and for manyyears my mother ran, owned and
(07:26):
ran a business in Auckland forprobably 20 years which sold
ponchos.
Initially my father bought atan auction one day, bought up
all these felt hats, the blocksthat they make them on the old
boulder hats and top hats from acompany that had gone bankrupt
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and started producing them, butthey made them in all strange
colors and started selling themthrough their shop, Sold tens of
thousands of these things, andso they were also entrepreneurs
too Interesting.
Marc Bernstein (08:00):
It actually reminds me of a story someone I
had on a few months ago namedJanet Bernstein no relation who
I met, who's English, and herfather had a candy store and he
died young and the imprint thatwas left on her was she loved
this candy store and she said atthat age she wasn't really
interested in sports, she wasn'treally interested in anything
else she was interested in.
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I'm going to have my ownbusiness someday and it didn't
work out that way.
She'd done other things alongthe way and her life took all
kinds of twists and curves andthen, through family
circumstances, she had to go towork and she started an
organizing company which isprobably the largest of its type
you know people haven't gettingready to move primarily from
their homes to other homes andum, and probably the largest and
(08:45):
it's best of Philly andPhiladelphia and that kind of
thing.
But it all traced back to herfather's candy store.
You know nickel and dime candystore I guess it's Pence's and
something else in England butPence's and Pounds or something
like that.
Announcer (08:59):
But, anyway.
Marc Bernstein (09:00):
So let's then talk about the journey.
So tell me what you did priorto coming to america and prior
to starting the business yeah,so my initial um.
David Calderwood (09:11):
Initially I started working out for a
television company I guess isthe best way to describe them
though a film video productioncompany in New Zealand, and I
had been through anapprenticeship program at the
local public television systemand I was offered a job there.
But I got offered a better jobat the private company.
(09:32):
So I went there and I was therefor about eight years and moved
through.
I had actually done a degree inmarketing.
So when I was working at thistelevision company and I was
working in production, one stagethe general manager came to me
and said you have a degree inmarketing, why don't we have you
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working in sales and marketing?
I said, oh, I like production.
And he says I think you mightbe better in this and he moved
me over into that and I becamevery successful and as one of
their top sales and marketingpeople.
And then I left that company andpurchased a.
(10:13):
I actually went to work as afreelancer with another company
and in between I bought my firstcompany, which was a crewing
company called Film Cruise, andwhat that did is it was a
company where you could I hadall these production people
listed and if you were making afeature film or something, you
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would call us up and then wewould book the crew and send
them out for you.
And so when I came to the USand I was looking for something
to do I already had clients inthe US when I was in New Zealand
and one of my first calls I gotwas from SmithKline Beecham,
which is the pharmaceuticalcompany.
Marc Bernstein (10:52):
You already had your crews as well.
David Calderwood (10:54):
And I already had the international crews and
they needed to do a shoot inevery SmithKline facility on the
same day around the world.
And I put that whole thingtogether and it came off without
any issues and a bigpublication here wrote up an
article about it and the phonestarted ringing and I had a
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production business workingimmediately.
Marc Bernstein (11:21):
Right, so you were so.
You were so when you boughtyour first company, you became,
that's when you became anentrepreneur, correct, but when
you had the need, that's whenyou became a founder of a
company.
David Calderwood (11:31):
Yes, that's a good way.
Yeah, that was the first one Ifounded, right.
Marc Bernstein (11:33):
So, so, let's, so, let's, let's talk about why
you came to America, becauseI've actually met the reason you
came to America and that's howI met you so intelligent film
producer or television producer,and then we started dating
internationally and it came downto well, we can't keep moving
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backwards and forwards betweenNew Zealand and the US.
David Calderwood (12:12):
So I said well , come to the US, let's see how
that works out.
And that's how I ended up hereand the rest is history.
Marc Bernstein (12:19):
Her name is Lisa , not to give away secrets, but
that's how I met you and tell mecause she's in the business.
So you two have worked together.
Why don't we talk about thatfor a minute and then we'll take
a quick break and talk aboutthe sort of the development of
this company?
David Calderwood (12:35):
Yeah, so Lisa was working for a company in New
York as a producer.
I was freelancing and runningmy crewing business and building
that and so I was working witha lot of networks like Good
Morning America was a big clientof mine and a lot of corporate
companies like American Expressand other companies like that
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and a lot of corporate companieslike American Express and other
companies like that and movinginto that whole corporate
business we eventually it was apretty successful business right
from the start and Lisa wasstill working on her job and
then we moved to New Jersey andwe decided to have children and
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she was commuting into the cityevery day from New Jersey and
one day she said I've just, Ican't do this anymore.
It's like driving me out thewall.
She was stuck in traffic forfive hours, you know, and I said
well, come and work with aEuro-Pacific.
You know, at that stage Ialready had two or three people
working for us.
So she did, and we workedtogether in Euro-Pacific for
almost 18 years and then shewent back into another company.
Marc Bernstein (13:43):
What a great business and love story.
So with that, we're going totake a short break and we'll see
you all in a minute again onFounders Forum.
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Marc Bernstein (15:14):
So we're back on Founders Forum with our guest
today, David Calderderwood, andwe have arnie eastburn in the
studio with us.
He's going to be quiet.
He's quietly observing, um, andwe were just talking, David,
about, uh, lisa coming into thebusiness.
So what happened after that?
You grew the business fromthere.
Yeah, so, and I'm interested inalso I'm sorry also challenges
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you had along the way in growingit, because that's a common
theme on the show and inentrepreneurialism in general.
David Calderwood (15:44):
Yeah.
So one of the things with videoproduction for people who don't
understand how it all worksit's very labor intensive, but
it's also not where you needpeople all the time.
You need people for a project,so that's.
You know, they come in for twoweeks and they're working 20
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hours a day and you're churningstuff out and then you don't
need them another for six months.
So it's not like you can go andhire people and just have them
working there because they sitaround doing nothing.
Now, we did hire certain peoplebecause we had edit facilities
where we had contractual workthat we were churning out and we
needed people for that.
But if we went and were doingsomething for Good Morning
(16:27):
America, for example, we wentand did their what they call
Sweeps Week show, which is wherethey get all the ratings, and
it's a one-week show and they doit somewhere exciting.
We did one for them out ofEurope.
We had 45 crews working for usfor two weeks.
You're not hiring those people.
They're all freelance, andusing freelancers opens up it's
(16:51):
a whole other thing, because youpay more for them but you don't
have to cover the costs ofhealthcare and all the other
things, but you're still payingall your taxes and adds a lot of
paperwork and liabilityinsurance.
Believe it or not, but we didhave one stage we were up to
about.
I think we had about 15full-time employees on staff.
Marc Bernstein (17:16):
It was a lot for that type of company.
David Calderwood (17:17):
It was, but we complemented that with an, all
you know, with a lot offreelancers staff as well and I
think on peak we probably andand also that was on our crewing
side, the crewing business.
That actually led to a fewissues because some of the crew
that we used, who are allfreelancers and I I mean we had
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over 1,000 people on the booksand some of those people would
be working maybe 60% of the timefor us and that moves them into
employee status but they're notemployees.
So we were insisting thatpeople had to be incorporated,
had their own companies and wewere hiring their companies, not
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them, for these projects, andwe were very strict on that.
And we actually sold off thecrewing business a week before
9-11.
And we had a very Timing yeahwell, good and bad timing
because part of the dealincluded that we were going to
get revenue share for threeyears and that business sort of
(18:24):
dried up for three years.
But part of the reason we soldit was that the company who
purchased it from us had apayroll company and they were
able to put all the freelancersinto payroll because our
insurance company was reallyquite concerned about how many
freelancers we were running, youknow close to a thousand,
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without them being employees.
And he said you know theyweren't sure whether they cover
the liability on that, so thatsort of drove us to sell part of
our company Interesting.
Marc Bernstein (19:00):
So that was a challenge and you came out of
that challenge by working withfreelancers.
I understand, right, yeah.
David Calderwood (19:09):
So to this day , we don't have any two people,
basically myself and my wife,but other than that, we use
freelancers because we workaround projects on a per-project
basis.
So if I need a graphic designer, I hire a graphic designer for
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that project, and that could bea month, it could be three
months.
Marc Bernstein (19:34):
So you're in a creative business and you work,
obviously remotely, becausethere's a lot of technology
involved in what you do today.
What is your?
We always ask, and you'vechosen your three-year vision.
We always talk about what'syour vision for the future.
This is the kind of work youcan do into your 90s and beyond
if you wanted to.
So what are your thoughts aboutthat?
David Calderwood (19:57):
So, yeah, I looked at that and I thought
three-year vision, what am Igoing to do?
And part of it is to narrowdown on the physical stuff that
I'm doing, so, in a way, be moreremote, right, right.
Marc Bernstein (20:17):
Less in person.
David Calderwood (20:18):
Right.
Not having to lug equipmentaround and that kind of thing,
yep, and also white labelingother people's services, gotcha,
and I've actually been doingquite a bit of that for the last
few years so I have a lot offriends that are attorneys.
Marc Bernstein (20:31):
I'm an attorney by background.
It's interesting becauseeveryone is figuring out how to
do that in their own businesses.
So as you get older, becausethey can still produce business,
these guys are always inconnections with people, but
they don't necessarily want tokeep going putting on a tie to
do that in their own businesses.
So as you get older, becausethey can still produce business,
these guys are always inconnections with people, but
they don't necessarily want tokeep going putting on a tie and
going to court.
To the extent people do thatand all that you know and do the
intense labor of it.
So they are farming out toyounger attorneys and things
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like that, and I see it in alldifferent kinds of businesses
going on.
So it seems to be a trend forthe future.
I did want to ask you how didyou and Lisa end up in Florida?
David Calderwood (21:01):
from New Jersey, I'm going to ask you
that question.
That was more just logistics.
We'd sold our house in theJersey Shore and we actually
rented.
We were only going to rent fora couple of years.
While we looked around to findsomething, we just wanted to get
out of New Jersey because ofthe tax rates and find somewhere
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with lower taxes.
Marc Bernstein (21:25):
Where were you at the Jersey Shore?
I don't know if I ever asked.
David Calderwood (21:27):
We were in a place called Shrewsbury which is
near Red Bank oh, near Red Bank, yeah and yeah.
We sold the house and then, ofcourse, covid hit, so we
actually ended up renting forabout five years and that
changed a lot of stuff and westarted looking during COVID
actively and we went to NorthCarolina, south Carolina,
(21:50):
georgia, kept going south, gotto Florida, saw a lot of places
would be like there and we weregoing to look at Arizona, but we
found a place in like there andwe were going to look at
Arizona but we found a place in.
Actually, I was trying to findsomething that was not in a
flood zone.
Then we ended up where we are,at Babcock Ranch, and we saw a
whole bunch of houses that wereally liked and started bidding
(22:14):
on stuff.
Marc Bernstein (22:15):
So you're drawing the Babcock Ranch to
avoid hurricanes, to a certainextent, pretty much, which is
our story as well.
Stuff.
So you're drawing the badconquerants to avoid hurricanes
to a certain extent, pretty muchour story as well, yeah, um, so
you well, we always ask somefun questions at the end, and
I'm going to ask you the secondone.
First, because I'm intrigued asto why you picked this one.
So I'm sure there's a storybehind it.
So what is your favorite song?
David Calderwood (22:38):
Well, it was interesting.
I saw that question and Ithought, Ooh, what is it?
And I have so many favoritesongs and.
I I really like albums.
So yeah, Pink Floyd's Dark Sideof the Moon.
Marc Bernstein (22:54):
Ah, it's funny, I was reading.
David Calderwood (22:56):
I just read something about it, yeah, but if
I just had to do a song, itwould be Bohemian Rhapsody.
Ah, and there is a reason forthat One.
I love the song.
When it came out, one of a kind, it was the first real video
commercial or video music reelMusic video.
(23:16):
Yeah, that was the first musicvideo ever.
It was yes, I Yep, that was thefirst music video ever.
It was yes, I mean, it wasselling, designed to sell songs.
Oh, came out in 1974 orsomething.
Marc Bernstein (23:30):
Really that long ago?
Yeah, oh, interesting, Becausewhen I think of the first music
video, it wasn't really thefirst music video, it's the
first one that MTV played.
Do you know what that was?
David Calderwood (23:48):
Yeah, I do.
Music video wasn't really thefirst music video.
It's the first one that mtvplayed.
Do you know what that was?
Video, I do video killed theradius.
Marc Bernstein (23:52):
Uh with um the police, was it no with uh sting,
sting.
David Calderwood (23:53):
No the buggles , roger saves the day yeah so,
but that was not the first TVmusic show either.
That was a copy of a NewZealand TV show called I can't
remember the name of it.
Mtv openly has listed on theirthing that it's based on the New
Zealand television show.
Marc Bernstein (24:14):
Well, they also say it was based on.
They consulted with MichaelNesmith, formerly of the Monkees
, who was a big music video guyand he had a show called
Elephant Parts and theybasically modeled it on that as
the story I've always heard,according to, I think, john
Sykes I forget the guy who wasthe original creator of MTV, but
(24:37):
I wouldn't be surprised, no hebought the rights from new
zealand from television newzealand very interesting yeah.
So, um, speaking of pink floyd,real quick, I just got to tell
you.
I read this morning a thing putout by David gilmore saying
that, you know, roger waterswalked off saying he was pink
floyd, and he says I object tothat because I, you know, I feel
like I was a lot of pink floydas well, and I think Richard
(24:58):
Wright maybe I don't know if hedied because he was talking
about how important he was toDark Side of the Moon that that
album would have never been.
There were several key songsthat would have never happened
if it weren't for Richard Wright.
And the way he said it.
He says it was like Walk inPeace, my friend, or something
like that.
(25:23):
I don't know if he died or Idon't know what happened with
richard wright, but some reasonthis was he just posted this and
I just saw it anyway.
Oh, he died.
Oh, he died.
He died in 2008.
Richard wright, oh, I guess.
So I don't know, maybe he was,maybe it was on his birthday or
something.
He posted it interesting, so Idon't.
I guess I didn't realize that.
Um, so I one question I wantedto go back to that I skipped was
(25:44):
the challenges for your futurevision, in other words, in terms
of white labeling, services andworking more.
What challenges do you see interms of getting there?
David Calderwood (25:55):
it's.
You're competing with a lot ofother people also white
labelling similar services.
We already white label a numberof services where we're in the
top 10 sellers and you've got toget into those top groups.
Once you get in there, you geta lot of other stuff from them,
(26:17):
from whoever you're reselling,because that's all you are.
You're a reseller in a way.
But the nice thing about allthe support services and that
are moved away from me I don'thave to worry about that.
It's just we find the clients,we sign them up and they
hopefully become long-termclients because we continue to
(26:38):
receive income and revenue fromthat.
Marc Bernstein (26:41):
And it sounds like the challenge is you know
the competition, but it soundslike the way you overcome the
challenge is making sure you'reon the A-list.
Yeah.
David Calderwood (26:50):
And that's what you have to do, and so
you've got to focus only on oneor two of those.
And I have two at the momentand I'm looking to start a third
, and that's probably as many asI can handle.
Marc Bernstein (27:02):
Last question your favorite book or books.
David Calderwood (27:06):
Pretty much any science fiction book.
I'm a big science fictionreader and a lot of Did you read
as a kid.
Marc Bernstein (27:13):
Yeah, which ones did you like as a kid?
David Calderwood (27:17):
Oh Time Machine, oh um Time Machine.
Announcer (27:21):
Oh.
David Calderwood (27:21):
Time Machine.
Yeah, is that what it's called.
Announcer (27:24):
Yeah, you know the person.
David Calderwood (27:26):
I can blank out his name off the top of my
head.
Announcer (27:28):
Jules Verne no, no, no.
Marc Bernstein (27:29):
The other guy.
David Calderwood (27:30):
Well, I read Jules Verne's too as a kid, but
um oh Did.
Marc Bernstein (27:35):
Did you have Tom Swift in New Zealand?
No, there was a whole series ofTom Swift books about this guy
that jumped back, becoming anastronaut and doing all these
things.
No, that was my favorite.
David Calderwood (27:44):
Well, so On the Beach.
Have you heard of that?
This is one about the nuclearwar, that's actually required
reading what used to be in NewZealand for high school kids.
Oh wow, because it made yourealize that you live on an
island in the middle of thePacific Ocean and if there
really is a nuclear war, you maybe the last people alive.
Marc Bernstein (28:06):
So on that positive note HG.
David Calderwood (28:09):
Wells, hg Wells.
Thank you for that HG Wellsright, of course.
Marc Bernstein (28:13):
So, and what were his other big books?
Since you have it up, Roger, Idon't have it up.
David Calderwood (28:19):
He had a couple of them.
Oh yeah, yeah, but anyway, bigscience, that's my favorite one,
though, hg.
Marc Bernstein (28:24):
Wells the Time Machine.
So, for our listeners, go backand check out HG Wells again.
David Calderwood (28:28):
Yeah, HG Wells has written so many books and
they're all great.
Marc Bernstein (28:34):
Well, listen, I think we're out of time, so
thanks so much, David, for beinghere.
Great, interesting story.
We thank you all for listeningtoday to Founders Forum and we
look forward to seeing you againnext week.
David Calderwood (28:45):
Thank you.
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