May 7, 2025 • 30 mins
When two decorated military veterans decide to address the invisible wounds of war and first response, their solution is simple yet powerful: get outside.
Lisa and Greg Hungiville, founders of Outdoor Warrior Nation, share their journey from military service to nonprofit leaders, co-hosted by Alex Pron, CFP®, CBDA, Founder of Crossover Capital. With Lisa’s 34 years in the Minnesota Army National Guard and Greg’s 25 years in the Marine Corps and Army National Guard, they understand the mental health challenges facing veterans and first responders. After losing friends to suicide, they launched a nonprofit offering outdoor therapy through activities like hunting, fishing, kayaking, and equine therapy.
A powerful moment during a kayaking trip, when a participant said, “If it wasn’t for you and Lisa, I don’t know if I’d be on this planet today,” reflects the life-changing impact of their work, symbolized by their compass logo representing a new direction for their community.
Operating in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Florida, Lisa and Greg aim to create a dedicated facility for veterans to heal in nature. Through their growing network, they’re building a support system beyond traditional therapy.
As Greg puts it, their work is about "bringing people together and letting them know that we care."
Key Takeaways:
- Military experience to nonprofit: Leveraging service to create a healing platform.
- The power of outdoor therapy: Helping veterans and first responders find peace in nature.
- Real-world impact: Testimonials highlighting the life-changing difference they’re making.
- Future vision: Creating a dedicated facility for veterans’ healing.
About Lisa & Greg Hungiville:
Lisa Hungiville was born in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and served in the Minnesota Army National Guard for 34 years. Her roles included G-1 senior enlisted for the 34th Infantry Division, senior enlisted S-1 for the 1st Armor Brigade Combat Team, and Deputy Chief of Staff G-1 Sergeant Major at Joint Force Headquarters in St. Paul, MN.
Greg Hungiville grew up in Western Wisconsin and served 25 years in both the United States Marine Corps and Minnesota Army National Guard, with experience in infantry and Air Missile Defense. His final duty was as Chief for Air & Missile Defense in the Middle East, where he advised the Division Commander on air defense matters. Greg retired as a Lieutenant Colonel.
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Marc Bernstein (00:41):
Good morning America.
How are you?
We are here again in sunnySouthwest Florida, where it is
actually always sunny Althoughwe say it's always sunny in
Philadelphia, but that's notnecessarily the case and happy
to be here with Roger Marley,our engineer at WXKB-FM in
southwest Florida, and this isall part of Beasley Media group
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in philadelphia.
We're on wwdb and, of course,the founders forum podcast can
be found on all your majorstreaming services and we have
we always start with a thoughtfor the day and we have alex
pranz in the studio with us, whowe recently did a show with and
I'm going to ask him to chimein on this as well as our guests
(01:27):
Greg and Lisa, or Lisa and Greg, as I'm looking at them and
I'll introduce them formally ina minute.
So there's a quote I came acrosstoday which seems relevant for
the times.
It may be relevant for theconversation we're going to have
today, and it's by someonenamed Jenny Young.
I actually don't know who sheis, but she said every situation
in life is temporary.
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So when life is good, make sureyou enjoy it and receive it
fully, and when life is not sogood, remember that it will not
last forever and better days areon the way.
That's certainly something I'min tune with, although I hadn't
heard it exactly in those words.
Alex, what are your thoughts onthat quote?
Alex Pron, CFP®, CBDA (02:08):
Well, Marc, I mean, I know this is
going to- relate to Bitcoin.
I'll actually just talk marketsin general.
I think we're experiencing avery tumultuous time right now.
I was actually just looking atsome charts earlier right now I
was actually just looking atsome charts earlier the stock
market whether the Dow, the S&P,the NASDAQ, those indices are
(02:29):
still up over the last 180 days.
So look, this too shall pass.
We weren't going to do 20% ayear forever in the stock market
.
I think that's why it'simportant to be working with
folks like yourself that areputting in a good game plan for
their clients, so as a financialadvisor, as alex uh referred to
(02:50):
me, as we certainly espousethat same philosophy, this too
shall pass.
Marc Bernstein (02:55):
Those the words I was thinking, those two shall
pass, and yeah, and investments,and in life you always have to
be looking at the long term ofwhat's coming next.
So that's alex's take, which Iknew was going to be somewhere
along those lines.
How about Lisa?
And how about Greg on that?
Greg Hungiville (03:11):
Well, first of all, I just want to say thank
you for having us on the podcast.
That's Greg's voice, by the way.
Marc Bernstein (03:15):
Yeah, this is not Lisa.
Greg Hungiville (03:18):
You know I like the quote For me.
I'm more of a leadershipmentorship kind of individual.
For me, it's very important tosurround yourselves with people
that are going to make sure thatyou're successful, and you need
to make sure that they'resuccessful.
The one thing I've noticed is,as we get older, every day is
not a guarantee, and it'simportant to live every day like
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it's your last, and so if youhave to shorten your circles
with friends, make sure yousurround yourself with the right
people.
They're going to make sure thatyou're successful and you do
the same for them.
So to me, that quote is more ofa leadership value.
Lisa Hungiville (04:02):
For me on that quote.
It reminds me of just life ingeneral.
It reminds me that to live mylife and others around me very
positively and impact them inways too that they want to
actually go out and enjoy lifeand impact others.
So for me, everyone has theirdepressing days, but those were
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past.
It's about getting out thereand living and just enjoying it.
Marc Bernstein (04:30):
Well, you just heard from Lisa and Greg
Hungiville, not in that order,but, as you will hear, they've
dedicated their life to servicein many different ways and now
they're in a new chapter ofservice.
So we're going to hear allabout that today.
And, you know, on the show wehave the founders of business
we're probably 80% of the peoplewe have on here but we also
have founders of nonprofits andwe enjoy to do that and we like
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to.
We'll donate an ad for thembecause we want to get.
It's a way of us giving to thecharity and help promoting it,
or the, or the organization, thenonprofit organization.
So here's the guest.
There's a little bit ofinformation on them.
Greg Hungiville grew up inwestern Wisconsin.
He served 25 years in themilitary, serving the United
States Marine Corps and theMinnesota Army National Guard.
(05:17):
Greg holds multiple branches,which include infantry and air
missile defense, and his lastduty assignment was the chief
for air and missile defense inthe Middle East.
Couldn't have been an easy joband in that capacity he advised
that the division commander andstaff on air defense-related
matters on a daily basissupported the fires and
(05:40):
protection war fightingfunctions, and he retired as a
lieutenant governor.
Lieutenant colonel.
I'm sorry, lieutenant governor.
Greg Hungiville (05:51):
That might be my next role.
Maybe that's next.
Marc Bernstein (05:52):
Maybe next.
Greg Hungiville (05:54):
I like the sound of that.
Marc Bernstein (05:55):
You like that Gov, I'll call you Gov as we go
forward here.
Lisa Hungiville was born inMinneapolis, Minnesota.
She entered the United StatesArmy in May 1986 and served in
the Minnesota Army NationalGuard for 34 years.
Lisa served as G1 seniorenlisted for the 34th Infantry
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Division, the senior enlisted S1for the 1st Armor Brigade
Combat Team and senior enlistedS1 for the Brigade Training
support battalion.
Lisa's last duty position wasdeputy chief of staff G1
sergeant, major joint forceheadquarters, st Paul, minnesota
, and they are founders and co.
(06:36):
Their founder and co-founder,that would be Lisa's founder,
and Greg is co-founder ofOutdoor Warrior Nation, which
they're going to tell you about.
Before you do that, I sincerelywant to say this Thank you for
your service, because you guys Imean these were some you both
have been very dedicated to themilitary and obviously have had
great contributions to oursafety and security in America.
(07:00):
So, on behalf of myself and ourlisteners in America, thank you.
Greg Hungiville (07:04):
Hey, thank you, I appreciate that.
Marc Bernstein (07:06):
And thank you for your continued service and
what you're going to talk abouttoday.
So let me just tell you alittle bit about Outdoor Warrior
Nation, which is a nonprofitorganization that helps our
military and first responderswith mental trauma, physical and
emotional stress and to getthem engaged in mother nature.
Their motto is helping militaryand first responders find their
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new direction, and theirmission is to encourage military
and first responders to enjoymother nature by presenting them
and often their families andloved ones, with hunting,
fishing, kayaking, skydiving,horse therapy, etc.
Um and it and it's also tothank them and being recognized
(07:50):
for a job well done.
So they'll tell you more aboutthat, um, but first I want to
hear your stories, like whereyou guys.
I know, we know where you camefrom, but tell us, maybe, about
your family life, where you camefrom, what influenced you to
get in the military and how yougot from there to what you're
doing today.
Lisa Hungiville (08:09):
So I will start .
Um, I actually, um, the onlyperson that was in the military
were my, my father.
So it was actually mystepfather and my father were
both in the military and theydidn't actually at that time,
women weren't actuallyencouraged to go into the
military but I felt a need.
(08:30):
I wanted to do somethingoutside of myself, so when I was
16, I went on a trip and.
I met some cousins who wereactually in the South Dakota
National Guard.
And that's when I came back.
I talked about a whole year andmy parents finally signed the
paperwork and they said yep,okay, if this is what you want,
(08:51):
we'll let you go.
And so I signed at 17, and thenI went to basic right between
my junior and senior year, andafter my senior I went to what
they call AIT additionalindividual training and that's
when I got into as a 42, or atthat time it was a 71 Lima,
which was admin, and I neverlooked back.
(09:13):
I kept on going.
So at 10 years and I have afunny story 10 years while I've
been in, my mom looked at me andshe goes do you regret being in
?
And I said, mom, I'm still inand I'm still going strong.
No, I don't regret it.
Marc Bernstein (09:28):
One thing I want to comment on and I remember
this from my second conversationwith Greg was about leadership
and the leadership training yougot, Because a lot of people
think, oh, you went in themilitary, you didn't get an
education.
You guys, I know, got anenormous education and maybe
when you're telling your story,Greg, you can comment on that,
because you and I talked a bitabout that.
Greg Hungiville (09:48):
Yeah, absolutely so for me.
At the time, we were living inon the East Coast, alexandria,
virginia, um, and I was going tohigh school there, um and uh,
the high school I was going towas bishop o'connell, dennis j
o'connell, and uh, one day I wascoming home from practice, um,
(10:08):
and I saw these gentlemen in auniform and they and they just
looks crisp, um, they look tough, they look respected and they
were clean cut, and I alwayswondered.
I was like who are these?
Who are these guys?
Marc Bernstein (10:20):
um, and so I found out they were, I comment
that you're no longer cleancutter.
No you're?
Greg Hungiville (10:25):
no, you're right.
Uh, I had this, I had this, uh,this beard now, since I was
shaved yeah, no.
So since I've been shaving thelast 25 years, I've just grew my
beard out, but white, uh, lisakeeps me don't blame my, she
keeps me in check on that.
So yeah, long story short, afterhigh school I went ahead and
did some college for a littlebit and then joined the Marine
Corps.
I still remember my first dayat Parris Island on those yellow
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footprints.
It was about 2 in the morning.
They dropped us off and I don'teven know what happened.
It was a whirlwind of peoplejust yelling, throwing stuff.
And yeah, that's where mycareer started.
And after about two or threedays in down at Parris Island, I
was like how do I get out ofhere?
And I'm like wait, I'm on anisland, I'm surrounded by water.
There's no way I'm getting outof here.
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And it has sharks all around it.
So I went ahead and just suckedit up and did the three months,
came out of there a differentman.
I remember my dad and my momcoming into graduation and my
dad came up to me at the time,shook my hand, looked at me and
he said you are a man.
Now he goes.
I can see the change in youwith just your demeanor, and it
(11:31):
brings a little bit of tears tome right now because I just know
how my dad.
He was tough on me and healways wanted the best, but he
would never, ever be lighten it,lighten his, his strength on me
.
He'd always make me work, work,work, and so I mean I was very
proud of that day and so I justdid.
Marc Bernstein (11:45):
Uh, another I just want to comment.
I always wanted to do basictraining.
When I came out I felt it wassomething I needed, but I but I
didn't want to serve, because ifI served I was the last year of
the draft, it it would havebeen in Vietnam, and at that
point we knew what a mess it was.
And I didn't do that.
So I just it was the thing,though that thought kept me in
(12:07):
law school, because when I wentto law school I did not like it.
The first I was on a quarterlysystem at the Ohio State
University Moritz College of Lawit's now called but I just
didn't think it was for me, andI was on my way with a friend to
check out and it came to me.
I said you know you never didthis basic training, but this is
like your mental boot camp.
(12:29):
You know, you got to do thisBecause it got me a lot of
discipline that I hadn'tpreviously had, not the same as
being in the military, but itwas my.
It was my escape route, youknow, and my, my easy way to do
it.
Greg Hungiville (12:41):
Anyway, I cut you off.
No, no, it's all good.
Um, you know it.
I mean I can totally relate towhat you were just saying there,
Marc.
I mean it breaks you down andbuilds you back the way that you
need to be, need to be right.
Lisa Hungiville (12:52):
So it's what they want us to be and how they
need us to be right, so did uh.
Greg Hungiville (12:58):
I did five years, six years, right around
that that time frame did acouple deployments, uh, a couple
combat deployments and sometraining deployments, um.
And then at the time my folksmoved to minnesota, st paul,
minnesota, and so uh got out andI moved up, uh moved from the
east coast up there, um startedworking for a gentleman on the
corporate side for about a yearand still part of the reserves,
(13:20):
and I joined the Minnesota ArmyNational Guard and I'm thinking,
why am I going from the MarineCorps to the Army?
Why am I lowering my standard?
But realistically, it's notreally lowering your standard.
I met so many great people inthat organization, especially on
the reserve side, because, uh,in there you'll meet, you'll
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meet people that could be vicepresidents at organizations or
presidents or managers at othercivilians, but they dedicated
their lives to work on theweekends.
So to me it was, it was, it wasuh a great learning opportunity
.
I always look forward to whatthey call uh the weekends, they
call them drill, and we gettogether and we do a lot of
different cool stuff.
Marc Bernstein (13:59):
And that was a lot of your education.
That and that leadershiptraining came from.
A lot of that I understand.
Greg Hungiville (14:04):
Yeah, absolutely so with the.
What's great about the militaryis is is um, they'll pay for
your education as long as youput the work in.
And so I w I had the ability toactually finish up my four-year
degree, my bachelor's, in thecities there Minneapolis, st
Paul and then moved on andreceived a graduate degree from
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the University ofWisconsin-Stout.
You just had to put the work in, you had to keep the grades up
and that's in between doing workduring the week, and so that to
me, I learned a lot.
I learned how late I can stayup and study.
Marc Bernstein (14:40):
I know Lisa wants to say something and I
have a follow-up question foryou too, but let's take a quick
break and we'll be right back.
Announcer (14:46):
Outdoor Warrior Nation is a 501c3 Outdoor
Warrior Nation (OWN) is a501(c)(3) nonprofit dedicated to
helping military and firstresponders overcome mental
trauma, physical and emotionalstress through the healing power
of nature.
Our unique programs hunting,fishing, kayaking, skydiving and
horse therapy are designed tohelp them reconnect with
themselves and others whileowning their future.
(15:07):
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helping is healing.
We provide a safe space for ourheroes to heal, grow and find
their new direction.
Join us in empowering thosewho've served.
Visit outdoorwarriornation.
org today and help a hero takethe next step.
Marc Bernstein (15:24):
We're back on Founders Forum, and just before
our break I had to stop, lisa,but you wanted to say a little
bit more about the education inthe military.
And then I have anotherfollow-up question for you.
Lisa Hungiville (15:33):
Yes, so in the military itself, enlisted have a
different type of educationlevel.
They don't go to college per sebut they do courses for each
level.
Like PLDC is what I wentthrough to get to an E5.
You had BNOC to do a sergeantmajor school.
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You have certain levels thatyou have to achieve those
courses before they willactually promote you Officers.
As my husband was, he had tohave an education in a college
per se, so he had to get thatfour-year degree to go higher to
the next level.
For us as enlisted it's a littlebit different, but also in the
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state of Minnesota, along withthe National Guard, they
actually developed a way for us,even though we had the
education that we could go anddo.
Most people don't always takeadvantage of that.
So what happens is when you'regoing before the next board,
which is called enlistedpromotion system when you're
going before the next board,which is called enlisted
promotion system, they actuallynow give you more points if you
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actually go to school andgraduate with a college degree.
So I went to Concordia, st Paul, and I got more points for
doing that compared to the restof my peers.
So you're based off of allpoints on that level.
Marc Bernstein (16:54):
Does that make sense?
Yeah, off of all points on thatlevel, does that make sense?
Yeah, well, I brought this upbecause it's interesting,
because I don't think peoplerealize the education you get,
particularly if you're a careermilitary.
And when I was my conversationwith Greg before, I was thinking
about the leadership classeswhich you referred to, but I
also now remember that he talkedabout getting a degree at the
University of Wisconsin and yougot yours, where you got it, and
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people don't understand thatthat.
So that's why I wanted tocomment on it.
I do want to move on, becausewe're already more than halfway
through.
Time flies when we're havingfun on the show, so I want to.
Lisa Hungiville (17:26):
I want to tell, tell, tell us about how Outdoor
Warrior Nation came about so wewere with a previous non-profit
and we decided to take thoselessons that we learned and put
it into our own.
And that's kind of whereOutdoor Warrior Nation came
about, because we wanted to getout and start doing our own
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thing and doing our own bylaws,having our own means of saying
who can come in and who can'tcome in, how to become a member,
how to do everything.
Marc Bernstein (17:59):
You just told a story of nonprofit entrepreneurs
working for somebody else andthen you decided hey, we want to
do it the way we want to do itand we think we can do a good
job at it, which I know you'redoing.
So thanks for that comment.
So how did that go when youstarted it out?
Lisa Hungiville (18:16):
So, first of all, our emblem we had for two
years before we even came upwith a new name for it.
It's a great emblem.
Two years.
Greg Hungiville (18:24):
Hey, tell them a little bit about the emblem
Lisa.
Lisa Hungiville (18:26):
So the emblem is actually it's very creative.
Greg and I put it together andwe've worked on it.
The mountains were alreadythere, but we had the compass,
because one of the things thatwe wanted to do is we want
people to find their newdirection, which is what this is
all about.
It's finding where you're gonnago in your life, learning to be
able to take control of yourlife.
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Take control of everyone else'slife.
Marc Bernstein (18:53):
Alex has a question.
Alex Pron, CFP®, CBDA (18:55):
Yeah, lisa, gregg, first off, thank
you for your service.
My brother was in the MarineCorps so I went to his Parris
Island graduation.
Greg Hungiville (19:03):
Oh, so you got a little taste of it.
What's your thoughts on thatgraduation?
Alex Pron, CFP®, CBDA (19:06):
Very memorable, amazing experience.
Just how in unison everyone isthroughout that entire
graduation ceremony blew me away.
And it's just, you know, Ididn't know what to expect going
there, but it was, it was.
It was amazing.
Whether it's for my business orother not-for-profits I support
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, first off, I think the missionis outstanding.
I always, I always, love tolearn about the why behind it,
right, and so you know and Idon't know if this will apply to
the first not-for-profit thatyou joined and kind of what made
you want to do that.
Obviously, I can imagine justhaving a military family, right,
I'm sure you've experienced alot of friends with, whether
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it's suicide, ptsd, et cetera.
I don't know if there's a likea one particular incident that
really drove you in yourdirection or if it was
accumulation of things, but Iwould love to hear more about
that story and the why behindwhat you're doing.
Lisa Hungiville (20:06):
So the why is both Greg and I have experienced
losses of people who havekilled themselves and that has
been very heartbreaking for us.
So we wanted to make sure thatwe could help make a difference.
We wanted to get peopletogether and to have them know
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that they are not by themselves.
We wanted them to understand iswe understand where they've
come from and how we canactually help them to be outside
of themselves and to go anddon't think about killing
themselves first, but thinkabout reaching out to someone
else.
Marc Bernstein (20:48):
So I know one of the ways you do that is you
have these activities.
I imagine there has to be somepreface to that.
In other words, do you put thepeople that you help through the
veterans that you help throughyou know classes or talks, or
before you do these activitiesand after what does that look
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like?
Greg Hungiville (21:09):
Yeah, so our resources are quite unique.
Our board is made up of oneindividual that served in the
Marine Corps, purple HeartDecorated, and he's actually a
counselor for the VA and doessome other counseling on his own
.
So we have that resource.
And then we have other people afirefighter in Minneapolis
paramedic, for example, anotherone that's still in the military
(21:30):
.
She's doing a great job, and sowe try, and another person in
the Navy.
So we tried to.
We do have we definitely do havepep talks.
More important for us is to getthem, um, engaged in our first
event.
We do have people that arehesitant, but I'll guarantee you
, when you come on an event withus, if it's kayaking, skydiving
(21:51):
, horse therapy, um, bow hunting, uh, fishing here in Florida.
I mean, we're connected andwe're doing a tri-state Florida,
minnesota and Wisconsin is ourfocus, and we're looking to
expand maybe in some otherstates.
But for us it's about a familyand bringing people together and
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letting them know that we careand we do these events because I
love to see those smiles withtheir families and their and
their kiddos.
And one example, real quickstory, is I remember we were
kayaking, um, and it was likeour first or second year and I
wasn't sure if we were reallydoing any kind of uh good with
our nonprofit.
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You know cause you don't hearabout the good things, you only
hear about the bad.
Right In any organization.
We don't know that.
And so, uh, we were kayakingdown, uh, the Kenny river and,
uh, all of a sudden, the guythat was next to me put his
paddle right down on front andhe just starts coasting.
He's looking straight ahead andI'm like, oh, what's going on
here?
And I said, hey, what iseverything?
Okay, what's going on?
(22:52):
And he stopped we, just we.
And he stops, looks over at meand says, if it wasn't for you
and Lisa, I don't know if I'd beon this planet today.
And so that, right there, gaveme the inspiration.
I passed it on to Lisa at theend of the event and I said,
lisa, we are doing good.
You know what?
There's a reason that thathappened, that event, that
(23:16):
situation, and so we need tokeep going and we need to do
more and more and more.
And so here we are.
That's just one story out ofmany, but that was very
impactful.
I was going to reach over andgive him a hug in the kayaks,
but I knew we would tip over, soI waited until after we hit
shore.
Marc Bernstein (23:29):
So that was just a quick little story that
enhanced your why is really whathappened?
It sounds like Absolutely andgo like absolutely and um, but
go ahead, lisa, you want to saysomething, okay, okay.
So we saw you hinted atsomething, greg.
You said it's difficult to getpeople involved, to get the
veterans involved.
You know there might be somehesitation.
That's a challenge.
That's like so you have thisbusiness, this non-profit
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business, and that's a challenge.
What other kinds of challengeshave you had in getting it going
?
Lisa Hungiville (23:57):
Finding people to sponsor and get donations.
Fundraising Very much.
Fundraising is probably one ofthe biggest and hardest thing to
do.
However, it's also a blessingwhen we do get that money,
because everything that we do,we put it towards, anything that
we get, goes right towards ourorganization and we give.
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This is how we can do all theseactivities Right.
Marc Bernstein (24:23):
You're unpaid volunteers for your nonprofit,
absolutely, absolutely, and wealso do Again, thank you for
your service.
Hey, thank you, Marc, Iappreciate it.
Greg Hungiville (24:31):
We try to do what we can and we also, just to
throw this out real quick.
We do a quarterly newsletter sothat we can show what kind of
impactful events that we do tolet people know.
Hey, if you want to be a partof this, um, jump on board,
we're all.
We love volunteers and we lovemembers and helping people.
Marc Bernstein (24:49):
By the way, I want to.
I want to comment.
I saw on your website that youdo this in Wisconsin and
Minnesota and Florida and Ibring up Florida cause this is
where we are now and I shouldcomment that we know each other
because we're neighbors inBabcock Ranch, the hometown of
tomorrow, which I always like tosay because I do think it's a
hub of innovation and I thinkit's.
I think it probably I don'tknow if it does, but I would
(25:11):
think it you're, you're maybeinspired by your surrounds or
people that you meet at all.
It helps keep stimulating me.
I know, when I come here for themonth on the snowbird, but when
I come, I, you know I'm.
I now have an all a littleworkspace in the hatchery and
there's all kinds of businessowners there and if I'm having a
tough day or if I'm thinking,you know, should I really keep
(25:31):
doing this podcast?
I just met like five peoplethere that I'm bringing on the
podcast and inspired me to domore.
So you know I just wanted tomention that that we're in a
pretty interesting place here.
Greg Hungiville (25:43):
Along with that , yeah, I feel like Southwest
Florida is for me I just use theword untouched.
It's such in a growth moderight here and I think it's
great meeting all these awesomepeople that have we're all here
for the same reason right and alot of there's a lot of
entrepreneurship.
Marc Bernstein (25:58):
so, you know, for us to be able to expand down
here with our non-profit andhelp people um military first
responders it to me it's ablessing I want to get at least
oh, we're running a little shortof time if it's important to
say it, but I want to talk aboutyour future vision.
You want to go right.
Well, that's, that's for you.
So if this were 10 years fromtoday and we're looking out and
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it's 2035, march 2035, and weonly have a few minutes left,
but what does that look like?
What?
What is the future for you guysand for um?
Outdoor warrior nation?
Lisa Hungiville (26:31):
well, in 10 years, um, I'll still be here at
babcock, probably with anotherplace, more likely up in the
Carolinas, but that's for uspersonally.
But for Outdoor Warrior Nation,I see, is that it's going to be
growing in several differentstates and we're going to have a
lot more places to send peopleto and we're also going to be
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more focused on down in Floridafor us, and then we'll have
other people actually run thoseother places, and that's what I
foresee.
And eventually I would like toeventually have a place that we
can actually call OutdoorWarrior Nation as a place where
people can actually go and havethose surroundings.
Marc Bernstein (27:15):
It would be an actual locale Like a camp.
Greg Hungiville (27:17):
Yeah, how neat would that be Just driving in
there and you have a big signwith that logo.
Marc Bernstein (27:22):
That would be the ultimate, and you think in
North Carolina for that?
Is that one of the reasons.
Lisa Hungiville (27:25):
We're not sure, we're throwing around a lot of
different places.
Marc Bernstein (27:29):
Gotcha and in five years, if you look at
halfway there, what does thevision look like?
Like where would you be afterfive years?
Lisa Hungiville (27:38):
I would say in five years.
I think that a lot more peopledown here are going to know who
we are and they are going towant to partake and be a partner
with us so that we can, becausethere is never one nonprofit
that can do everything foranyone.
So it's about helping eachother and that's where I foresee
it.
Marc Bernstein (27:56):
Gotcha, that's great.
We're almost out of time, but Iknow you're both readers, so
I'd like I'll start with Greg.
Greg, what, what, what's yourfavorite book that you've read
recently?
Greg Hungiville (28:06):
Well recently I just read General McChrystal
head of special operationscommand retired team on teams
and he talked a lot aboutleadership, which obviously
leadership and mentorship isdear to my heart, and so his
book definitely thumbs up.
It talks about you know thepros and cons and got into some
real, real, good, juicyinformation that you could learn
(28:27):
from and had great stories andvery impactful for me.
Marc Bernstein (28:32):
Nice and Lisa.
Lisa Hungiville (28:33):
The last book I just read is called the Women
and it is about a young ladythat goes into Vietnam after her
brother is killed and she getsinto being a nurse and living
that life as a tour and thencoming back and dealing with
PTSD and everything else that weare pretty much aware of, and
(28:57):
so it kind of takes you on herjourney and how her parents
weren't so supportive and thentoward the end how very
supportive they are, and it wasa very inspiring book that I
wish I went to jump to the end,but I did.
Marc Bernstein (29:13):
So I do that too .
I understand.
So the women and GeneralMcChrystal's.
What's the name of that book,greg?
Team on Teams, team on Teams.
I love the title.
That alone is great.
Well, listen, thank you bothfor being here today.
Best of luck to Outdoor WarriorNation.
We'll do what we can to promotethe nonprofit, because I think
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you're doing wonderful work.
Thank you to Alex Prahn forparticipating in this show,
thank you, roger Marley, asalways, for engineering, and
thank you all for listening andwe'll see you next week on
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Marc Bernstein (00:41):
Good morning America.
How are you?
We are here again in sunnySouthwest Florida, where it is
actually always sunny Althoughwe say it's always sunny in
Philadelphia, but that's notnecessarily the case and happy
to be here with Roger Marley,our engineer at WXKB-FM in
southwest Florida, and this isall part of Beasley Media group
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in philadelphia.
We're on wwdb and, of course,the founders forum podcast can
be found on all your majorstreaming services and we have
we always start with a thoughtfor the day and we have alex
pranz in the studio with us, whowe recently did a show with and
I'm going to ask him to chimein on this as well as our guests
(01:27):
Greg and Lisa, or Lisa and Greg, as I'm looking at them and
I'll introduce them formally ina minute.
So there's a quote I came acrosstoday which seems relevant for
the times.
It may be relevant for theconversation we're going to have
today, and it's by someonenamed Jenny Young.
I actually don't know who sheis, but she said every situation
in life is temporary.
(01:48):
So when life is good, make sureyou enjoy it and receive it
fully, and when life is not sogood, remember that it will not
last forever and better days areon the way.
That's certainly something I'min tune with, although I hadn't
heard it exactly in those words.
Alex, what are your thoughts onthat quote?
Alex Pron, CFP®, CBDA (02:08):
Well, Marc, I mean, I know this is
going to- relate to Bitcoin.
I'll actually just talk marketsin general.
I think we're experiencing avery tumultuous time right now.
I was actually just looking atsome charts earlier right now I
was actually just looking atsome charts earlier the stock
market whether the Dow, the S&P,the NASDAQ, those indices are
(02:29):
still up over the last 180 days.
So look, this too shall pass.
We weren't going to do 20% ayear forever in the stock market
.
I think that's why it'simportant to be working with
folks like yourself that areputting in a good game plan for
their clients, so as a financialadvisor, as alex uh referred to
(02:50):
me, as we certainly espousethat same philosophy, this too
shall pass.
Marc Bernstein (02:55):
Those the words I was thinking, those two shall
pass, and yeah, and investments,and in life you always have to
be looking at the long term ofwhat's coming next.
So that's alex's take, which Iknew was going to be somewhere
along those lines.
How about Lisa?
And how about Greg on that?
Greg Hungiville (03:11):
Well, first of all, I just want to say thank
you for having us on the podcast.
That's Greg's voice, by the way.
Marc Bernstein (03:15):
Yeah, this is not Lisa.
Greg Hungiville (03:18):
You know I like the quote For me.
I'm more of a leadershipmentorship kind of individual.
For me, it's very important tosurround yourselves with people
that are going to make sure thatyou're successful, and you need
to make sure that they'resuccessful.
The one thing I've noticed is,as we get older, every day is
not a guarantee, and it'simportant to live every day like
(03:40):
it's your last, and so if youhave to shorten your circles
with friends, make sure yousurround yourself with the right
people.
They're going to make sure thatyou're successful and you do
the same for them.
So to me, that quote is more ofa leadership value.
Lisa Hungiville (04:02):
For me on that quote.
It reminds me of just life ingeneral.
It reminds me that to live mylife and others around me very
positively and impact them inways too that they want to
actually go out and enjoy lifeand impact others.
So for me, everyone has theirdepressing days, but those were
(04:24):
past.
It's about getting out thereand living and just enjoying it.
Marc Bernstein (04:30):
Well, you just heard from Lisa and Greg
Hungiville, not in that order,but, as you will hear, they've
dedicated their life to servicein many different ways and now
they're in a new chapter ofservice.
So we're going to hear allabout that today.
And, you know, on the show wehave the founders of business
we're probably 80% of the peoplewe have on here but we also
have founders of nonprofits andwe enjoy to do that and we like
(04:54):
to.
We'll donate an ad for thembecause we want to get.
It's a way of us giving to thecharity and help promoting it,
or the, or the organization, thenonprofit organization.
So here's the guest.
There's a little bit ofinformation on them.
Greg Hungiville grew up inwestern Wisconsin.
He served 25 years in themilitary, serving the United
States Marine Corps and theMinnesota Army National Guard.
(05:17):
Greg holds multiple branches,which include infantry and air
missile defense, and his lastduty assignment was the chief
for air and missile defense inthe Middle East.
Couldn't have been an easy joband in that capacity he advised
that the division commander andstaff on air defense-related
matters on a daily basissupported the fires and
(05:40):
protection war fightingfunctions, and he retired as a
lieutenant governor.
Lieutenant colonel.
I'm sorry, lieutenant governor.
Greg Hungiville (05:51):
That might be my next role.
Maybe that's next.
Marc Bernstein (05:52):
Maybe next.
Greg Hungiville (05:54):
I like the sound of that.
Marc Bernstein (05:55):
You like that Gov, I'll call you Gov as we go
forward here.
Lisa Hungiville was born inMinneapolis, Minnesota.
She entered the United StatesArmy in May 1986 and served in
the Minnesota Army NationalGuard for 34 years.
Lisa served as G1 seniorenlisted for the 34th Infantry
(06:15):
Division, the senior enlisted S1for the 1st Armor Brigade
Combat Team and senior enlistedS1 for the Brigade Training
support battalion.
Lisa's last duty position wasdeputy chief of staff G1
sergeant, major joint forceheadquarters, st Paul, minnesota
, and they are founders and co.
(06:36):
Their founder and co-founder,that would be Lisa's founder,
and Greg is co-founder ofOutdoor Warrior Nation, which
they're going to tell you about.
Before you do that, I sincerelywant to say this Thank you for
your service, because you guys Imean these were some you both
have been very dedicated to themilitary and obviously have had
great contributions to oursafety and security in America.
(07:00):
So, on behalf of myself and ourlisteners in America, thank you.
Greg Hungiville (07:04):
Hey, thank you, I appreciate that.
Marc Bernstein (07:06):
And thank you for your continued service and
what you're going to talk abouttoday.
So let me just tell you alittle bit about Outdoor Warrior
Nation, which is a nonprofitorganization that helps our
military and first responderswith mental trauma, physical and
emotional stress and to getthem engaged in mother nature.
Their motto is helping militaryand first responders find their
(07:30):
new direction, and theirmission is to encourage military
and first responders to enjoymother nature by presenting them
and often their families andloved ones, with hunting,
fishing, kayaking, skydiving,horse therapy, etc.
Um and it and it's also tothank them and being recognized
(07:50):
for a job well done.
So they'll tell you more aboutthat, um, but first I want to
hear your stories, like whereyou guys.
I know, we know where you camefrom, but tell us, maybe, about
your family life, where you camefrom, what influenced you to
get in the military and how yougot from there to what you're
doing today.
Lisa Hungiville (08:09):
So I will start .
Um, I actually, um, the onlyperson that was in the military
were my, my father.
So it was actually mystepfather and my father were
both in the military and theydidn't actually at that time,
women weren't actuallyencouraged to go into the
military but I felt a need.
(08:30):
I wanted to do somethingoutside of myself, so when I was
16, I went on a trip and.
I met some cousins who wereactually in the South Dakota
National Guard.
And that's when I came back.
I talked about a whole year andmy parents finally signed the
paperwork and they said yep,okay, if this is what you want,
(08:51):
we'll let you go.
And so I signed at 17, and thenI went to basic right between
my junior and senior year, andafter my senior I went to what
they call AIT additionalindividual training and that's
when I got into as a 42, or atthat time it was a 71 Lima,
which was admin, and I neverlooked back.
(09:13):
I kept on going.
So at 10 years and I have afunny story 10 years while I've
been in, my mom looked at me andshe goes do you regret being in
?
And I said, mom, I'm still inand I'm still going strong.
No, I don't regret it.
Marc Bernstein (09:28):
One thing I want to comment on and I remember
this from my second conversationwith Greg was about leadership
and the leadership training yougot, Because a lot of people
think, oh, you went in themilitary, you didn't get an
education.
You guys, I know, got anenormous education and maybe
when you're telling your story,Greg, you can comment on that,
because you and I talked a bitabout that.
Greg Hungiville (09:48):
Yeah, absolutely so for me.
At the time, we were living inon the East Coast, alexandria,
virginia, um, and I was going tohigh school there, um and uh,
the high school I was going towas bishop o'connell, dennis j
o'connell, and uh, one day I wascoming home from practice, um,
(10:08):
and I saw these gentlemen in auniform and they and they just
looks crisp, um, they look tough, they look respected and they
were clean cut, and I alwayswondered.
I was like who are these?
Who are these guys?
Marc Bernstein (10:20):
um, and so I found out they were, I comment
that you're no longer cleancutter.
No you're?
Greg Hungiville (10:25):
no, you're right.
Uh, I had this, I had this, uh,this beard now, since I was
shaved yeah, no.
So since I've been shaving thelast 25 years, I've just grew my
beard out, but white, uh, lisakeeps me don't blame my, she
keeps me in check on that.
So yeah, long story short, afterhigh school I went ahead and
did some college for a littlebit and then joined the Marine
Corps.
I still remember my first dayat Parris Island on those yellow
(10:47):
footprints.
It was about 2 in the morning.
They dropped us off and I don'teven know what happened.
It was a whirlwind of peoplejust yelling, throwing stuff.
And yeah, that's where mycareer started.
And after about two or threedays in down at Parris Island, I
was like how do I get out ofhere?
And I'm like wait, I'm on anisland, I'm surrounded by water.
There's no way I'm getting outof here.
(11:08):
And it has sharks all around it.
So I went ahead and just suckedit up and did the three months,
came out of there a differentman.
I remember my dad and my momcoming into graduation and my
dad came up to me at the time,shook my hand, looked at me and
he said you are a man.
Now he goes.
I can see the change in youwith just your demeanor, and it
(11:31):
brings a little bit of tears tome right now because I just know
how my dad.
He was tough on me and healways wanted the best, but he
would never, ever be lighten it,lighten his, his strength on me
.
He'd always make me work, work,work, and so I mean I was very
proud of that day and so I justdid.
Marc Bernstein (11:45):
Uh, another I just want to comment.
I always wanted to do basictraining.
When I came out I felt it wassomething I needed, but I but I
didn't want to serve, because ifI served I was the last year of
the draft, it it would havebeen in Vietnam, and at that
point we knew what a mess it was.
And I didn't do that.
So I just it was the thing,though that thought kept me in
(12:07):
law school, because when I wentto law school I did not like it.
The first I was on a quarterlysystem at the Ohio State
University Moritz College of Lawit's now called but I just
didn't think it was for me, andI was on my way with a friend to
check out and it came to me.
I said you know you never didthis basic training, but this is
like your mental boot camp.
(12:29):
You know, you got to do thisBecause it got me a lot of
discipline that I hadn'tpreviously had, not the same as
being in the military, but itwas my.
It was my escape route, youknow, and my, my easy way to do
it.
Greg Hungiville (12:41):
Anyway, I cut you off.
No, no, it's all good.
Um, you know it.
I mean I can totally relate towhat you were just saying there,
Marc.
I mean it breaks you down andbuilds you back the way that you
need to be, need to be right.
Lisa Hungiville (12:52):
So it's what they want us to be and how they
need us to be right, so did uh.
Greg Hungiville (12:58):
I did five years, six years, right around
that that time frame did acouple deployments, uh, a couple
combat deployments and sometraining deployments, um.
And then at the time my folksmoved to minnesota, st paul,
minnesota, and so uh got out andI moved up, uh moved from the
east coast up there, um startedworking for a gentleman on the
corporate side for about a yearand still part of the reserves,
(13:20):
and I joined the Minnesota ArmyNational Guard and I'm thinking,
why am I going from the MarineCorps to the Army?
Why am I lowering my standard?
But realistically, it's notreally lowering your standard.
I met so many great people inthat organization, especially on
the reserve side, because, uh,in there you'll meet, you'll
(13:40):
meet people that could be vicepresidents at organizations or
presidents or managers at othercivilians, but they dedicated
their lives to work on theweekends.
So to me it was, it was, it wasuh a great learning opportunity
.
I always look forward to whatthey call uh the weekends, they
call them drill, and we gettogether and we do a lot of
different cool stuff.
Marc Bernstein (13:59):
And that was a lot of your education.
That and that leadershiptraining came from.
A lot of that I understand.
Greg Hungiville (14:04):
Yeah, absolutely so with the.
What's great about the militaryis is is um, they'll pay for
your education as long as youput the work in.
And so I w I had the ability toactually finish up my four-year
degree, my bachelor's, in thecities there Minneapolis, st
Paul and then moved on andreceived a graduate degree from
(14:26):
the University ofWisconsin-Stout.
You just had to put the work in, you had to keep the grades up
and that's in between doing workduring the week, and so that to
me, I learned a lot.
I learned how late I can stayup and study.
Marc Bernstein (14:40):
I know Lisa wants to say something and I
have a follow-up question foryou too, but let's take a quick
break and we'll be right back.
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Marc Bernstein (15:24):
We're back on Founders Forum, and just before
our break I had to stop, lisa,but you wanted to say a little
bit more about the education inthe military.
And then I have anotherfollow-up question for you.
Lisa Hungiville (15:33):
Yes, so in the military itself, enlisted have a
different type of educationlevel.
They don't go to college per sebut they do courses for each
level.
Like PLDC is what I wentthrough to get to an E5.
You had BNOC to do a sergeantmajor school.
(15:54):
You have certain levels thatyou have to achieve those
courses before they willactually promote you Officers.
As my husband was, he had tohave an education in a college
per se, so he had to get thatfour-year degree to go higher to
the next level.
For us as enlisted it's a littlebit different, but also in the
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state of Minnesota, along withthe National Guard, they
actually developed a way for us,even though we had the
education that we could go anddo.
Most people don't always takeadvantage of that.
So what happens is when you'regoing before the next board,
which is called enlistedpromotion system when you're
going before the next board,which is called enlisted
promotion system, they actuallynow give you more points if you
(16:40):
actually go to school andgraduate with a college degree.
So I went to Concordia, st Paul, and I got more points for
doing that compared to the restof my peers.
So you're based off of allpoints on that level.
Marc Bernstein (16:54):
Does that make sense?
Yeah, off of all points on thatlevel, does that make sense?
Yeah, well, I brought this upbecause it's interesting,
because I don't think peoplerealize the education you get,
particularly if you're a careermilitary.
And when I was my conversationwith Greg before, I was thinking
about the leadership classeswhich you referred to, but I
also now remember that he talkedabout getting a degree at the
University of Wisconsin and yougot yours, where you got it, and
(17:16):
people don't understand thatthat.
So that's why I wanted tocomment on it.
I do want to move on, becausewe're already more than halfway
through.
Time flies when we're havingfun on the show, so I want to.
Lisa Hungiville (17:26):
I want to tell, tell, tell us about how Outdoor
Warrior Nation came about so wewere with a previous non-profit
and we decided to take thoselessons that we learned and put
it into our own.
And that's kind of whereOutdoor Warrior Nation came
about, because we wanted to getout and start doing our own
(17:48):
thing and doing our own bylaws,having our own means of saying
who can come in and who can'tcome in, how to become a member,
how to do everything.
Marc Bernstein (17:59):
You just told a story of nonprofit entrepreneurs
working for somebody else andthen you decided hey, we want to
do it the way we want to do itand we think we can do a good
job at it, which I know you'redoing.
So thanks for that comment.
So how did that go when youstarted it out?
Lisa Hungiville (18:16):
So, first of all, our emblem we had for two
years before we even came upwith a new name for it.
It's a great emblem.
Two years.
Greg Hungiville (18:24):
Hey, tell them a little bit about the emblem
Lisa.
Lisa Hungiville (18:26):
So the emblem is actually it's very creative.
Greg and I put it together andwe've worked on it.
The mountains were alreadythere, but we had the compass,
because one of the things thatwe wanted to do is we want
people to find their newdirection, which is what this is
all about.
It's finding where you're gonnago in your life, learning to be
able to take control of yourlife.
(18:49):
Take control of everyone else'slife.
Marc Bernstein (18:53):
Alex has a question.
Alex Pron, CFP®, CBDA (18:55):
Yeah, lisa, gregg, first off, thank
you for your service.
My brother was in the MarineCorps so I went to his Parris
Island graduation.
Greg Hungiville (19:03):
Oh, so you got a little taste of it.
What's your thoughts on thatgraduation?
Alex Pron, CFP®, CBDA (19:06):
Very memorable, amazing experience.
Just how in unison everyone isthroughout that entire
graduation ceremony blew me away.
And it's just, you know, Ididn't know what to expect going
there, but it was, it was.
It was amazing.
Whether it's for my business orother not-for-profits I support
(19:29):
, first off, I think the missionis outstanding.
I always, I always, love tolearn about the why behind it,
right, and so you know and Idon't know if this will apply to
the first not-for-profit thatyou joined and kind of what made
you want to do that.
Obviously, I can imagine justhaving a military family, right,
I'm sure you've experienced alot of friends with, whether
(19:52):
it's suicide, ptsd, et cetera.
I don't know if there's a likea one particular incident that
really drove you in yourdirection or if it was
accumulation of things, but Iwould love to hear more about
that story and the why behindwhat you're doing.
Lisa Hungiville (20:06):
So the why is both Greg and I have experienced
losses of people who havekilled themselves and that has
been very heartbreaking for us.
So we wanted to make sure thatwe could help make a difference.
We wanted to get peopletogether and to have them know
(20:27):
that they are not by themselves.
We wanted them to understand iswe understand where they've
come from and how we canactually help them to be outside
of themselves and to go anddon't think about killing
themselves first, but thinkabout reaching out to someone
else.
Marc Bernstein (20:48):
So I know one of the ways you do that is you
have these activities.
I imagine there has to be somepreface to that.
In other words, do you put thepeople that you help through the
veterans that you help throughyou know classes or talks, or
before you do these activitiesand after what does that look
(21:08):
like?
Greg Hungiville (21:09):
Yeah, so our resources are quite unique.
Our board is made up of oneindividual that served in the
Marine Corps, purple HeartDecorated, and he's actually a
counselor for the VA and doessome other counseling on his own
.
So we have that resource.
And then we have other people afirefighter in Minneapolis
paramedic, for example, anotherone that's still in the military
(21:30):
.
She's doing a great job, and sowe try, and another person in
the Navy.
So we tried to.
We do have we definitely do havepep talks.
More important for us is to getthem, um, engaged in our first
event.
We do have people that arehesitant, but I'll guarantee you
, when you come on an event withus, if it's kayaking, skydiving
(21:51):
, horse therapy, um, bow hunting, uh, fishing here in Florida.
I mean, we're connected andwe're doing a tri-state Florida,
minnesota and Wisconsin is ourfocus, and we're looking to
expand maybe in some otherstates.
But for us it's about a familyand bringing people together and
(22:11):
letting them know that we careand we do these events because I
love to see those smiles withtheir families and their and
their kiddos.
And one example, real quickstory, is I remember we were
kayaking, um, and it was likeour first or second year and I
wasn't sure if we were reallydoing any kind of uh good with
our nonprofit.
(22:31):
You know cause you don't hearabout the good things, you only
hear about the bad.
Right In any organization.
We don't know that.
And so, uh, we were kayakingdown, uh, the Kenny river and,
uh, all of a sudden, the guythat was next to me put his
paddle right down on front andhe just starts coasting.
He's looking straight ahead andI'm like, oh, what's going on
here?
And I said, hey, what iseverything?
Okay, what's going on?
(22:52):
And he stopped we, just we.
And he stops, looks over at meand says, if it wasn't for you
and Lisa, I don't know if I'd beon this planet today.
And so that, right there, gaveme the inspiration.
I passed it on to Lisa at theend of the event and I said,
lisa, we are doing good.
You know what?
There's a reason that thathappened, that event, that
(23:16):
situation, and so we need tokeep going and we need to do
more and more and more.
And so here we are.
That's just one story out ofmany, but that was very
impactful.
I was going to reach over andgive him a hug in the kayaks,
but I knew we would tip over, soI waited until after we hit
shore.
Marc Bernstein (23:29):
So that was just a quick little story that
enhanced your why is really whathappened?
It sounds like Absolutely andgo like absolutely and um, but
go ahead, lisa, you want to saysomething, okay, okay.
So we saw you hinted atsomething, greg.
You said it's difficult to getpeople involved, to get the
veterans involved.
You know there might be somehesitation.
That's a challenge.
That's like so you have thisbusiness, this non-profit
(23:50):
business, and that's a challenge.
What other kinds of challengeshave you had in getting it going
?
Lisa Hungiville (23:57):
Finding people to sponsor and get donations.
Fundraising Very much.
Fundraising is probably one ofthe biggest and hardest thing to
do.
However, it's also a blessingwhen we do get that money,
because everything that we do,we put it towards, anything that
we get, goes right towards ourorganization and we give.
(24:19):
This is how we can do all theseactivities Right.
Marc Bernstein (24:23):
You're unpaid volunteers for your nonprofit,
absolutely, absolutely, and wealso do Again, thank you for
your service.
Hey, thank you, Marc, Iappreciate it.
Greg Hungiville (24:31):
We try to do what we can and we also, just to
throw this out real quick.
We do a quarterly newsletter sothat we can show what kind of
impactful events that we do tolet people know.
Hey, if you want to be a partof this, um, jump on board,
we're all.
We love volunteers and we lovemembers and helping people.
Marc Bernstein (24:49):
By the way, I want to.
I want to comment.
I saw on your website that youdo this in Wisconsin and
Minnesota and Florida and Ibring up Florida cause this is
where we are now and I shouldcomment that we know each other
because we're neighbors inBabcock Ranch, the hometown of
tomorrow, which I always like tosay because I do think it's a
hub of innovation and I thinkit's.
I think it probably I don'tknow if it does, but I would
(25:11):
think it you're, you're maybeinspired by your surrounds or
people that you meet at all.
It helps keep stimulating me.
I know, when I come here for themonth on the snowbird, but when
I come, I, you know I'm.
I now have an all a littleworkspace in the hatchery and
there's all kinds of businessowners there and if I'm having a
tough day or if I'm thinking,you know, should I really keep
(25:31):
doing this podcast?
I just met like five peoplethere that I'm bringing on the
podcast and inspired me to domore.
So you know I just wanted tomention that that we're in a
pretty interesting place here.
Greg Hungiville (25:43):
Along with that , yeah, I feel like Southwest
Florida is for me I just use theword untouched.
It's such in a growth moderight here and I think it's
great meeting all these awesomepeople that have we're all here
for the same reason right and alot of there's a lot of
entrepreneurship.
Marc Bernstein (25:58):
so, you know, for us to be able to expand down
here with our non-profit andhelp people um military first
responders it to me it's ablessing I want to get at least
oh, we're running a little shortof time if it's important to
say it, but I want to talk aboutyour future vision.
You want to go right.
Well, that's, that's for you.
So if this were 10 years fromtoday and we're looking out and
(26:20):
it's 2035, march 2035, and weonly have a few minutes left,
but what does that look like?
What?
What is the future for you guysand for um?
Outdoor warrior nation?
Lisa Hungiville (26:31):
well, in 10 years, um, I'll still be here at
babcock, probably with anotherplace, more likely up in the
Carolinas, but that's for uspersonally.
But for Outdoor Warrior Nation,I see, is that it's going to be
growing in several differentstates and we're going to have a
lot more places to send peopleto and we're also going to be
(26:54):
more focused on down in Floridafor us, and then we'll have
other people actually run thoseother places, and that's what I
foresee.
And eventually I would like toeventually have a place that we
can actually call OutdoorWarrior Nation as a place where
people can actually go and havethose surroundings.
Marc Bernstein (27:15):
It would be an actual locale Like a camp.
Greg Hungiville (27:17):
Yeah, how neat would that be Just driving in
there and you have a big signwith that logo.
Marc Bernstein (27:22):
That would be the ultimate, and you think in
North Carolina for that?
Is that one of the reasons.
Lisa Hungiville (27:25):
We're not sure, we're throwing around a lot of
different places.
Marc Bernstein (27:29):
Gotcha and in five years, if you look at
halfway there, what does thevision look like?
Like where would you be afterfive years?
Lisa Hungiville (27:38):
I would say in five years.
I think that a lot more peopledown here are going to know who
we are and they are going towant to partake and be a partner
with us so that we can, becausethere is never one nonprofit
that can do everything foranyone.
So it's about helping eachother and that's where I foresee
it.
Marc Bernstein (27:56):
Gotcha, that's great.
We're almost out of time, but Iknow you're both readers, so
I'd like I'll start with Greg.
Greg, what, what, what's yourfavorite book that you've read
recently?
Greg Hungiville (28:06):
Well recently I just read General McChrystal
head of special operationscommand retired team on teams
and he talked a lot aboutleadership, which obviously
leadership and mentorship isdear to my heart, and so his
book definitely thumbs up.
It talks about you know thepros and cons and got into some
real, real, good, juicyinformation that you could learn
(28:27):
from and had great stories andvery impactful for me.
Marc Bernstein (28:32):
Nice and Lisa.
Lisa Hungiville (28:33):
The last book I just read is called the Women
and it is about a young ladythat goes into Vietnam after her
brother is killed and she getsinto being a nurse and living
that life as a tour and thencoming back and dealing with
PTSD and everything else that weare pretty much aware of, and
(28:57):
so it kind of takes you on herjourney and how her parents
weren't so supportive and thentoward the end how very
supportive they are, and it wasa very inspiring book that I
wish I went to jump to the end,but I did.
Marc Bernstein (29:13):
So I do that too .
I understand.
So the women and GeneralMcChrystal's.
What's the name of that book,greg?
Team on Teams, team on Teams.
I love the title.
That alone is great.
Well, listen, thank you bothfor being here today.
Best of luck to Outdoor WarriorNation.
We'll do what we can to promotethe nonprofit, because I think
(29:33):
you're doing wonderful work.
Thank you to Alex Prahn forparticipating in this show,
thank you, roger Marley, asalways, for engineering, and
thank you all for listening andwe'll see you next week on
Founders Forum.
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