Four Eyes
A podcast series hosted by four optometrists delivering knowledge and insight into the optometry world across Canada and the U.S. Subscribe and join us every week while we share info, tips and interviews with all bad-ass optometrists across the continent.
Episodes
June 23, 2025 • 38 mins
Curious about how optometrists are expanding into the world of aesthetics? In this episode, Dr. Carly Rose shares how she built Clear Eyes + Aesthetics—a dry eye specialty clinic—and what that journey looked like from the ground up.
Dr. Rose shares how she chose which aesthetic services to offer (and which to avoid), how she screens for ocular aesthetic concerns during a routine eye exam, and what steps her team took to safely exp...
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June 2, 2025 • 38 mins
In this episode, we speak with Dr. Christina Gratkowski, an optometrist who blends functional medicine with eye care to uncover the root causes of chronic eye conditions. With functional medicine gaining momentum—especially among younger generations seeking answers beyond traditional treatments—Dr. Gratkowski shares why this whole-body approach is transforming the healthcare conversation.We dive into how gut health, inflammation, a...
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April 17, 2025 • 47 mins
In this episode of Four Eyes, we sit down with Dr. Marcella LaBelle, an optometrist in Alberta with over 20 years of experience in refractive surgical care, to dive into the world of intraocular and light-adjustable lenses. From identifying ideal candidates (even those without cataracts) to demystifying premium IOLs and new technologies on the horizon, Dr. LaBelle shares expert insights every primary care OD should hear. We also di...
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March 26, 2025 • 35 mins
In honor of the podcast’s fifth year anniversary, Deepon and Amrit host another popular Happy Hour episode and play an Optometry version of “Have You Ever”. So grab your drink, sit back, and listen as our two hosts go down memory lane of their most wild patient experiences!
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March 4, 2025 • 51 mins
Headaches are one of the most common patient complaints—but how do you know if they’re vision-related? In this episode, Dr. Kar and Dr. Bilkhu break down different types of headaches, key signs that point to a visual cause, and when to refer for urgent medical attention. We also dive into treatment strategies, from prescribing plus lenses and NeuroLens to specialty tints like Avulux and FL-41, and syntonics phototherapy. Whether it...
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January 23, 2025 • 45 mins
Part two of our conversation with Dr. Sophia Leung takes a clinical turn as she shares her top tips for managing corneal diseases and dystrophies in primary care practice. We discuss red flags to watch for, when to treat versus refer, and practical advice for navigating complex corneal cases. If you’re looking to elevate your skills in corneal care or enhance your confidence in managing anterior segment conditions, this episode is ...
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December 19, 2024 • 36 mins
In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Sophia Leung, an exceptional Optometrist specializing in cornea and anterior segment disease. Part one dives into Dr. Leung’s journey to becoming a cornea specialist, including her transition from private practice to a residency in Oklahoma, relationships she’s developed working alongside ophthalmology, and a day in the life as a corneal specialist in Calgary, Alberta. Whether you’re a student ...
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November 25, 2024 • 35 mins
In this episode of our New Grad Case Reflection series, Dr. Kar shares an interesting case of one (small but mighty) dot hemorrhage causing chaos for the doctor and the patient. How far would you go to investigate one minor finding in the retina?
Join Dr. Kar as she reflects on the case that was shared by her colleague, who saved a patient’s vision from permanent damage. What would you have done in her shoes? Share your thoughts w...
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October 24, 2024 • 39 mins
In this episode of our New Grad Case Reflection series, we dive into the challenges of managing a patient who consistently abused their contact lens wear. Patient education on contact lens hygiene is vital, but what happens when they ignore your advice?
Join Dr. Bilkhu as she reflects on her experience as a new grad optometrist, dealing with a patient who resisted her professional advice. What would you have done in her shoes? S...
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September 20, 2024 • 48 mins
Dr. Bilkhu and Dr. Kar dive into an alternative perspective on myopia that challenges the traditional medical approach. While current treatments often focus on myopia as a problem of it’s own, Dr. Bilkhu shares insights on why myopia may actually be a symptom of a deeper problem: near visual stress. Together, the hosts explore how the behavioral approach suggests that as long as the eyes are under stress, myopia will continue to wo...
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August 26, 2024 • 46 mins
In this episode, Drs. Kar and Bilkhu share their personal tips to help new grad ODs master refraction skills. Learn from their experiences to reduce pesky prescription redos, create an exceptional patient experience, and even boost optical sales as an associate OD. These insights will help you build trust with your patients and ensure they leave your office feeling truly appreciated from just a simple refraction. Tune in, and take ...
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July 19, 2024 • 47 mins
Join Dr. Kar and Dr. Bilkhu as they interview Dr. Michael Neal, an Optometrist and founder of Build My Team – an innovative company transforming how optometry practices hire staff members. Dr. Neal discusses the limitations of traditional interview methods and shares how Build My Team identifies the strengths and weaknesses of candidates to place them in roles where they can excel. We also discuss how these assessments apply to ass...
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June 20, 2024 • 33 mins
In this episode, we dive deep into the revolutionary role of AI in clinical trials and patient care with George Magrath, MD, an esteemed ophthalmologist and the CEO of a cutting-edge pharmaceutical company specializing in ophthalmic drug development. Dr. Magrath shares his expertise, having trained in ocular oncology at the renowned Wills Eye Hospital in Philadelphia.
Dr. Magrath shares the innovative ways AI is being used in clin...
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May 28, 2024 • 40 mins
Dr. Diana Chu is an optometrist at the Washington Eye Institute. In this episode, we learn about Dr. Chu’s first hand encounter with a concussion, exploring her path to recovery. She highlights the validity of symptoms even in the absence of physical injury, emphasizing the importance of prioritizing one’s recovery journey. Dr. Chu also reviews biomarkers to detect nutritional and hormonal imbalances associated with a head injury, ...
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April 24, 2024 • 40 mins
Dr. Hardeep Kataria, a seasoned Optometrist practicing advanced dry eye at Avant Eyes in California, returns to the podcast to discuss the vital role of mentorship in the journey of optometry. We discuss the profound impact mentorship can have on shaping your career and personal growth at various stages. From guidance in clinical practice to navigating the anxieties of selecting a practice modality, mentorship from either seasoned ...
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March 20, 2024 • 33 mins
Amrit and Deepon chat with Dr. Arian Fartash, creator of GlamBaby, about her new line GlamBaby Dry Eye. Dr. Fartash combined her optometric knowledge and parenting experience to create dry eye products catered for infants and toddlers. Tune-in to hear more details about how she designed, manufactured, and marketed these products to other optometrists, online retailers, and big box stores across the world!
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February 16, 2024 • 45 mins
Join Dr. Bilkhu in her discussion with Dr. Mila Ioussifova about taking a holistic approach to dry eye disease. Dr. Ioussifova is a residency-trained optometrist with a private practice in Portland, OR. She is dedicated to helping patients with dry eye disease and offers advanced dry eye therapies in her practice. Dr. Mila Ioussifova recently studied human nutrition and functional medicine at the University of Western States and is...
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January 16, 2024 • 46 mins
In this special two-part episode, we're diving deep into the world of financial planning for Optometrists across Canada and the U.S. Whether you're a student OD, a recent graduate, or a seasoned professional still figuring out your financial strategy, this episode is made for you.
Our panelists include Lainey Bokhaut from Winnipeg, Canada, and Evon Mendrin from Madera, California. These experts know the ins and outs of money manag...
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November 28, 2023 • 47 mins
In this special two-part episode, we're diving deep into the world of financial planning for Optometrists across Canada and the U.S. Whether you're a student OD, a recent graduate, or a seasoned professional still figuring out your financial strategy, this episode is made for you.
Our panelists include Lainey Bokhaut from Winnipeg, Canada, and Evon Mendrin from Madera, California. These experts know the ins and outs of money manag...
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October 23, 2023 • 45 mins
In this episode, Deepon interviews Amrit along with Dr. Manraj Fervaha to dive into the dynamics of their business partnerships within Northern Sight Optometry. They discuss what strategies they used to determine a suitable business partner, what qualities they look for in a partner, and the pros and cons to owning a private practice with a partner.
This episode offers great perspectives to help new grad optometrists and solo pra...
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