Monkey Man (2024)

In this episode we watch Dev Patel's directorial debut in his film "Monkey Man" (2024). One of the more interesting action films of the year so far, one could say it's a mix of John Wick, The Raid, and Oldboy.

Here we discuss our first impressions of the movie and how this film stands up against the films it stands on the shoulders of.

Check out our review and let us know what you think!

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Episode Transcript

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Alright guys, welcome back to another episode of Four Guys One Film.

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Nice, nice, nice.
Alright, so we want to jump right into it.
This time we're reviewing Monkey Man.
This is Dave Patel's directorial debut.
Dave Patel, god damn it.
It's not Dave.
Isn't it Dave?
You always gotta do that.
I said Dave.
He said Dave.
He said Dave.
He's already watching.
I'm using Hollywood Will.
Oh my god.
David Patrick is directing this one.

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See maybe his name was Dave.
People would have watched this, okay?
It's not my fault.
It's actually making money, you asshole.
The reason we're reviewing it is it's actually a really good movie.
I don't know why Netflix dropped it because his name wasn't Dave.
I think so.
I think so.
It's because of people like...
What did he say earlier?
Netflix didn't know the shit they were saying right now, man.
They could be future sponsors.
Of course, of course.
Never mind.

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Sorry Netflix, you beautiful bastards.
Alright guys, so let's jump into it.
I think the synopsis for the film, it's a classic revenge story.
It's heavily influenced by movies like John Wick.
He said one of his favorite films he ever watched as a kid was Enter the Dragon.
Enter the Dragon, Bruce Lee.
You can definitely see all those films heavily influence this and his style.

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It's this kid.
I think by the end of the movie he's referred to as Bobby as well.
Bobby.
Hey George, not to fucking ram your fucking thing, but can you introduce us all?
Maybe get an introduction.
Well, I thought we were doing a synopsis of the film and then we'd introduce ourselves,
but alright, this is George.
I'm gonna take the bait today, Gator.

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This is George.
This is George.
This is Alexis.
This is Nick.
Whoa.
Dude, you know what would be funny?
If we actually got your brother to do this, it'd be funny.
Oh, I know.
I've used him for voice acting.
But anyways, Monkey Man.
Moving on, moving back to...
Hanuman.
Hanuman.
So, basically, in the beginning of the movie it explains how his village got raided by

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these corrupt cops and this other guy... what was his name?
The chief of police.
Ghana, the chief of police.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
The...
Come out the Baba Shakti.
Yeah, the Baba Shakti was in charge of these police people.
But we don't know that after it.
We just know that...
Yeah, yeah, but basically the police...
Also, heavy spoilers.
Heavy fucking spoilers are gonna be like...
Heavy spoilers.
Heavy spoilers.
Sorry.

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You can't be fucking watching this.
Well, I'm giving a synopsis.
You haven't...
Let the man talk.
Damn.
Damn.
So these corrupt police people...
I'm taking over.
I don't like this fucking game.
Basically, they want to take their land.
They end up, you know, murdering...
No, they take their land.
Well, they're fighting back.
They're fighting back.
They pillage his village...
They're colonizing.
And literally end up murdering his mom in fucking cold blood.

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Pretty brutal.
Brutal murder.
That actually the main bad guy, the main antagonist...
Chief police.
Chief police.
Rana?
Rana, I believe?
Rana.
Rana.
The frog.
He basically sets Dave Battelle's mom on fire and...
Well, Strangler's...
Yeah, bro.
Hey, she was hot.
She was on fire.

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I don't know what that...
She was on fire.
I don't know what that...
But...
And then, you know...
Someone said she was sizzling.
Wow.
Oh my God.
She was crispy when we were done with it.
Wow.
It was crazy.
I don't know how the last one works, though, George.
I'll cut it.
So, he ends up burning his hands, trying to turn his mom off because she's on...
In flames.
She ends up dying.
He survives.

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This is about as long as the movie.
Jesus Christ.
He's pissed.
He's fucking ready for blood.
And that's it.
That's literally the intro.
That's all you need to know.
It goes on from there.
Him becoming a waiter.
It won't stop.
Him going...
You just regurgitated the same thing again.
Hey, man.
This is Indian John Wick.
All right.
All right.
That's it.
That's all you need to know.
The Baba Yaga.

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It just says fucking Indian John Wick.
Baba Yaga.
Baba Yaga.
All right.
So, from there, I mean, I think we should talk about, first to start, I mean, how difficult
it was to make this movie.
Yeah.
Right.
For Dev, he says that he spent literally 10 years trying to make this thing happen.
And then he eventually did.
From just like the inception of the idea, right, to like actually coming in.

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He started writing it 10 years ago, right?
And then like he started trying to actually make it happen in 2019 during COVID and the
lockdown, which sounds like an impossible task.
But somehow he made it work.
But I think one of the biggest obstacles he had to overcome, one, actually having someone
want to produce this film, pay for the filming and everything.
And then also...
My question is, is this his first time directing a film?

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This is his first film?
Yeah, this is his directorial debut.
That's nuts.
That's nuts to like be in a situation, first time directing.
I think that's the worst case scenario.
It's like literally you had the film during COVID.
This is the first film that somebody was like, hey, let's do it.
But then they're like, all right, there's a million...
No, there's a million obstacles you have to overcome now because it's like not only do
you have to like work with the small budget that they gave him, but...

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All these restrictions.
And then you're in like a whole other country.
I'm pretty sure he had to fly to a different island, right, where it was like during quarantine.
He was in Indonesia, so...
Yeah, so they basically had to do it in an island where they were quarantined.
He flew out a crew of think it was only like 500 crew members.
435 people.
How much was it?
435 people.
435.
That's crazy.
You know what?

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You mentioned Indonesia.
You guys seen The Raider, right?
Yeah.
That's a good one.
I feel like this was kind of like a mix of John Wick and The Raider.
Well, they did like an overhand shot like Phil's The Raid.
And then John Wick also did that too in the fourth one.
Yeah, that was pretty sick.
Yeah, that was pretty sick.
Dragon's Breath and shit.
That was actually...
Yeah, that was inspired by a video game.
And I think a lot of what we're going to talk about is like how this movie was heavily inspired
by these types of movies.

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And like they reference it right at the beginning of the movie.
He's like, this is a John Wick.
They literally named John Wick.
Which I kind of didn't like that.
But I think it's hard not to do that nowadays.
I know, but it kind of already puts it in your head.
It's like, okay, you expect John Wick.
One of the other reviewers actually put it perfectly.
He said, oh, they wear it on their shoulder and proudly.
They're not like trying to hide the fact that they're...

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The only thing I didn't like was it was like, okay, he has the same suit.
He kind of has the same cut as Keanu.
He has a dog.
I liked...
But here's the thing.
Does he have a dog?
Yeah, he has a street dog.
I don't think that any of those elements were...I'll wait until we get to actually going over
the next parts of the movies.
But I don't think any of those elements were like cheesier for no reason.

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Like the suit had a reason, the dog had a reason.
So it's like, yeah, it kind of has like the fucking similarities, but it wasn't just a
dog to have a dog.
It wasn't a Blaine ripoff.
No, it wasn't.
And I can admit that, but I'm just saying like, if there's something like...
Because in one of the interviews he's like, I'm trying to portray a waiter.
I'm like, a waiter doesn't have a nice black suit, dick.

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No, but that's the problem.
They were in a high end restaurant.
Of course he had a good...
And that was his uniform.
That's what I'm saying.
Even the suit was like, that's uniform.
But he went to go fight.
He didn't have like a whole nice black suit.
Yes, he did.
At the end.
At the end.
Once he came back and he's like...
He's not a normal buster.
You don't have a nice suit.
No, but he didn't become...
Remember, so that was the whole point.
I mean, I guess we're going to get...

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It's all a front.
I guess we're going to get into it in a second.
But...
Because at the end, he didn't need to have a suit.
I think he wanted it because he wanted to still have as much of an element of surprise
as possible.
You're skipping ahead too far.
Yeah.
Just to skip a little bit, Alfonso, which is his friend or who ended up using, he was
the one who hooked them up with the gig to start working at the VIP levels and above.

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That's because he also kind of helped them out by telling him that he was going to lose
the fight.
Exactly.
By giving him a shit ton of cash.
And so that's where he got access to the suit and the attire to be able to belong up there.
And so I think he wanted to keep some of that on to still...
I think the symbolism...
We talked a little bit about what the movie's about and how it's Mumbai, John Wick and everything

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like that, but there is still a lot of influence on...
I mean, I don't know if I've described that.
That's literally how they describe it.
If you say so, Nick.
Yeah, it's on IMDB.
Who is they?
IMDB.
Don't fucking tell me.
You blame them, okay?
Keep scrolling.
Keep scrolling.
I will find it.
But one of the things...
Little bitch.
That's a comic book.
That's a comic.

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What do you mean?
It's John Wick in Mumbai.
Not Mumbai, John Wick.
Not a big difference, everybody.
Not a big difference.
Thank you, Isaac.
I appreciate it.
I mean...
But going into it, like I said, I think that there's just a lot of elements that...
Even talking about the religion aspect, the corruption aspect that we don't really see
in movies like John Wick or traditionally Western movies.

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Because when we talk about politics over here and corruption, it's always some fucking conspiracy
theory versus countries we're from or other third world, second world countries.
It's just a real thing.
It was a real thing that actually happened in India.
They tie it back into something very political that actually happened over there.
One of the things that I wish this movie would have...
I think with the time that they had, because this movie is almost a full two hours long.

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I think they could have got away with either cutting the time and what they were doing
to set up some of the stuff, but also trying to maybe adjust in maybe giving a little bit
more backstory or having a better training montage.
I didn't like the training montage.
I did feel a little rushed.
Yeah, I do think that that's one of the complaints that I have about this movie.
I agree with you, Gitter.
I think there was backstory, but it wasn't enough for me to care about his character

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so much until the end.
Because the end is literally where they show what happened to his mom.
I'm not going to say that it's not.
It's super horrific what happened to him as a kid.
But can we see a little bit more backstory?
What happened in between?
What made you turn to fighting?
Also you were a little kid then.
How did your life switch into your 20s?
I think that's kind of...
When he was in the temple, sorry for cutting you off, Nick.

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But when he was in the temple, his quote unquote training, he was just punching a fucking bag.
How the fuck do you go from just punching a bag to like, oh, I could go take on this
hotel full of all these dudes and shit.
I mean, maybe a little bit with the fact that he's in the slums fighting.
Yeah, he already had some prior experience.
I think that was more real.
I didn't take it as much as training, as much as I took it as rehabilitation.

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He already had some training.
He took them on once.
He got pretty injured after that.
This is kind of the point that I wanted to make.
My thing is that he always had a losing fight.
He let Nick talk.
The losing fights was because Tiger, the organizer of the whole thing, literally like that.
The conversations they had was like, you're going to be the bad guy.
I need you to be the bad guy.
I need you to always lose.

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I don't know if you remember, he was fighting not Cobra, but the guy who...
Kong.
I think Neil was Kong.
Or he was like, yeah, he was fighting the guy who had no mask or nothing.
And he was like, hit me now, hit me now, hit me now, like telling him, like, we need to
sell this.
Like, so he was fully conscious.
He was telling him, like, you're going to finish me, basically, like WWE shit.
And so...
Yeah, but the bad guys in WWE win once in a while.

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Every night.
I mean, yeah, we didn't get to see any of that.
But I think he had some training in fighting.
And then I think his, like the whole point was his first go around, his motivation was
just anger and revenge.
But he didn't have, like, the mental kind of fortitude to really take it to the end
and really finalize, like, what he was desiring to do, which was avenge his mom.

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And so it was when he made it to the temple and when he was rehabilitated by Alpha and
all of the people there that they were able to basically go on the spiritual journey to
be like, you're going to face your demons, like, and we're going to help you understand
them, we're going to help you.
We understand his backstory, and then he really takes on this role of like, I'm not just here
for revenge, but I'm going to avenge everybody else's wrongdoings.

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Yeah, that's one point that...
There's a greater responsibility.
Exactly.
Jordan Peele, I think, described that really well in one of the interviews that he did.
He's talking about how his character is literally that.
It's not just a story about vengeance for himself, it's for all the people around him,
and also how it ties back to the Diyadidi, the, what was the monkey...
Hanuman.
Hanuman.

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Hanuman.
And how he rises and then he falls.
And then he comes back up.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And so that's what he literally did, right?
Is he made it up to the VIP floor, he fought, he ended up having to fucking almost die to
then ascend back up all the way up to the god level this time to face off against freaking
Baba Shakti, who was really running the whole show, and then had his final climactic scene

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with him.
But that's kind of what I'm saying is, you know, like we have the John Wick movies, which
I love John Wick, and I don't think anybody in this room doesn't, but like, he's just
immediate badass.
Immediate badass, he doesn't lose, and even when he's losing, it's like, it's such an
unfair battle that you never take it against him.
You're like, why wouldn't he lose?
He should have lost hours ago.
And those movies are more like style and us just like, counter-rease.

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Exactly.
Yeah, because by the fourth one, you're just kind of like, all right, John's already been
through it.
His redemption is already, like, already killed the guy that stole his car, killed his dog,
now he's just for the fuck of it.
Now he's just trying to live a free life.
Yeah, now he's just trying to learn his freedom.
But, no, but like, again, it's like my issue with this movie is like, they went for the
approach of trying to show a background, like a background story of who this character is.

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I think they could have done a better job with that.
Like you said, maybe figure out how you actually figured out how to fight.
Yeah.
Like, you know, instead of like, one of the things that I had to gripe with is that they
kept showing the, they kept showing scenes of the deity, like every time he would like,
kind of like, lose a battle in one way or another, it would always go back to the deity
climbing on top of the hill.

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But also, I don't know if I used that word correctly, was it deity or is it just a god?
Like in the same thing.
A deity is a god.
Yeah.
Okay, just making sure.
Yeah.
No one.
Appreciate you trying.
Don't blame me later, alright?
Get in the comments and say...
And I understand that's like that particular deity's story and everything, but like, instead
of like having to do that every time, maybe like, okay, like, maybe show a little bit

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of his background where he was like learning, the first time he ever fought in the slums
and he's rising back up.
I think that would have been a cooler transition to see...
Yeah, how he made it to the...
Yeah, like instead of just seeing, oh fuck, we're gonna see the painting again of the,
in the painting when you see when he's fighting the Babashakti at the end anyway, so it's
like, I don't know, I think they could have used a little bit more money, but I guess

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they also had a budget, they only had a 10 million dollar budget and maybe...
Well, I think the only expo...
Go ahead, Alexis.
No, I'm not your enemy.
No, no, well look, the only thing that I was gonna say, the only exposition that I
really saw where him is like, oh, he's genuinely trying to get closer and closer to the people,
is where he finds that little crown and then he's like, oh, it's linked to this organization,
which is a club, and this is the club owner and then he steals her bag and then he gets

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an interview for a job and then he's just kind of like, alright, that exposition was
nice.
By the way, that was a cool montage, like when the bag going through like the...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's the real thing.
There's so many footage...
Like little networks.
...of people doing that in countries where there's literally like thieves that will work
together and into one unit where they're stealing from tourists or from people...
Actually, I kind of want to have a little discussion on that because you see the way

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that these people live and it really kind of shows you the poverty level in this place
and how people really need to fight to get to the top and it isn't like...
You kind of have to step on other people to reach that place.
Well, the only way that those people got to where they're at, like the freaking Jesus
and the bad guy...

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Rana, Queenie, all of them, yeah.
Is because they're literally killing and they're like, we're going to take it by force and
that's the only way we know how to do it.
Because there are a lot of scenes where you see people, just like tons of people sleeping
together because they're just so poor.
Yeah, on cardboard and shit like that on the floor.
Oh yeah, there's a specific scene where Kid is sleeping with an air-deco.
It kind of makes sense that just like people fall into that cycle of violence and that's

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the only way that they can find success.
Yeah, at some point you provide and that doesn't matter who you have to hurt and what you got
to do, you got to provide.
I'm going to provide for the people that I care about, not the people I don't care about.
Fuck them.
Because those people are fucking dead now.
And that isn't really something that you get to see in a lot of action films, like maybe
in Rambo in the first one, but that was a very political film.

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But then...
No, you see it when he goes back to Vietnam.
And what is that, the third one?
That's the second one.
Rambo 2.
And that's kind of what I think a little bit of what Dev Patel mentioned.
Actually, going back to the, I mean, Dev Patel's origin is Slumdog Millionaire.
That's one where it depicts that very well.
He also talked about it.
So like when this film premiered at South by Southwest, he was literally saying he was

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tired of action being just mindless shit.
He's like, there's obviously the great action films that do an amazing job of showing real
martial arts, real gung fu or anything like John Wick, any of especially the older...
We talked about Predator, we've done a lot of other action films.
But he's like, I wanted to show something that had soul, real trauma, real pain.
And you can see also the cultural impacts and aspects.

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And he talked about it in a lot of his interviews with Jordan Peele, where he was like, I wanted
to make something that was for us too, that looked like something for people who look
like you and people who look like me.
And I'm like, I think that's great.
There's so much untapped culture in a lot of other genres.
So it doesn't always have to be a documentary about what it's like to live in Mumbai and
have Mumbai people.
What Dev said as well in one of those interviews that I really enjoyed is he talks about how

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he brought, he presented this film after he wrote it to the director of District 9.
And he wanted him to direct it.
And then the director, I forgot his name, but...
Neil Blomkamp.
Neil Blomkamp.
South African.
He basically said, no, no, this is you.
This is your movie.
You know what it's like to be from this area.
He's like, I've never been to India, I've never done any of this shit.

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This is literally you.
He basically told him, I can't direct this movie for you because this is something that
you should do.
But it's funny because he said, I can't direct it, but you can use one of the actors that
I always use.
Oh yeah.
He became Tiger, right?
Yeah, but that guy's a fucking hard ass.
I really like Tiger.
He did great in this.
Tiger was a really big highlight for this.
I really liked him in the A-Team too.
On the A-Team?
Yeah.
He cleaned up really well for this too.

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I was just like, oh shit, he's in a suit, he's over there.
It was a dirty suit, but he looked like me.
No, I know.
He killed it.
He killed it.
He was like, I'm gonna go to the movies.
He was like, I'm gonna go to the movies, and he was like, I'm gonna go to the movies.
He was like, I'm gonna go to the movies.
But those wrestling scenes, I really enjoyed.
The way it was set up, it felt very visceral, very in your face.
I'm right there, and the whole monkey suit.

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It was creepy, but it was cool.
This movie is trying to show you all the aspects of the deplorables and the degenerates and
stuff.
Even the fact that pretty much the only level of entertainment that we're seeing is still
violence.
These people can only afford to gamble.
Every other kind of, I guess-
Where are these people, Nick?
What do you mean these people?
The lower class.

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What do you mean by-
The lower class.
Okay.
When you think about Western media and stuff, and you think about the things that the lower
class in our culture has ended up doing, it's a lot of gambling in Vegas.
They're addicted to gambling, drugs, alcohol, stuff like that.
Claim poker, stuff like that.
Here, it's almost like they're gambling, but they're doing illegal wrestling, illegal fights
and matches and stuff like that.

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It's all very violent.
Not only that, it shows that his character had to stoop to that level to survive.
He's literally fighting to survive because probably that was his main source of income
because before that, he wasn't even a waiter.
His whole thing is like, I want vengeance and I need a way to learn how to fight and
be able to do that and still make money.

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He's like, let me go fight in some slums and prepare.
Yeah.
He's very much a fighter for the people, but not at first.
So now that we're... I think we got to the point where we talked a lot about the movie.
I still want to talk about the movie, but I think since this is his first time filming
a movie and doing... pretty much from A through Z, he was a major part of the...

(19:27):
Writer.
Producer.
Director.
Actor.
Enthusiast.
Editor, probably.
Did he produce it?
Did he put any of his own money on this shit?
Well, he's still...
Even if he didn't put his own money, he put a lot of his card into it.
I think there was a lot of shit they had to do, so I think to some extent he had to self
pay.
He talks about how he had to film some of the scenes on his iPhone in a hotel room.

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I kind of wonder which iPhone.
Was it a 10?
There were some certain scenes that were so shaky and the camera work was interesting.
There was a scene where they fell in the water and it looked really bad.
It looked really grainy.
That's probably the iPhone shock.
That's probably the iPhone shock.
It's waterproof.
It's waterproof.
It's waterproof.
You're fucking water-assisted.
He talks something about certain things where it's like, oh, we had a camera rig that was

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super expensive that we set up, it broke, and then he's like, we had to makeshift some
shit with a rope and the camera and all these different things.
Could you imagine?
He's like, after a certain point, when they ran out of money and everything, he's like,
we no longer could bring extra equipment in, we couldn't fly in on the other island.
I don't think it was even an equipment issue.
It's just like...
No, he talked about how there was a lot of malfunction.

(20:33):
buying stuff because like I think even with a $10 million budget like realistically there's only three sets in this movie. Yeah. Yeah
And probably half that goes to like just paying people. Yeah, just paying people
So you could also imagine like the reshoots and shit like you after a while is like, alright, well, we're out of budget
If they had reshoots. If they had it. Yeah.
I think that's what you meant by like the camera with his iPhone thing

(20:54):
Like I'm sure there's little things like oh we need to transition this better
Yeah, think about it cuz like we were looking at the behind the scenes
He was filming for the majority of the time with like a forty thousand dollar camera
Yeah, and it's like all handheld right all handheld
so you for the most part you didn't have a gimbal and
Like even if he did it was on the smaller cameras would probably be like an FX six or like even like what they did in
The creative this guy knows about cameras

(21:20):
You know
And so I think like with some of this like rigging stuff
Like if you wanted to get like a waterproof case for that re camera that he was filming on it would have been
Really they weren't even using it. I thought they had a fucking a cover a see-through cover for the camera
And some of those night shoots where we're raining. Yeah, no that and you're renting stuff
So that's just expensive. Yeah, if you lose something it really fucks you up

(21:41):
But I think I want to talk about since this is you know going back and I know George interrupted like an asshole
I'm leading this discussion today
First time like what like if we're gonna get we're sitting he was sitting in front of us
Like what would be some of the critiques and some of the positive things that we say about this movie?
I think it was a monstrous achievement. Yeah, what he did

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I think it was fantastic. It was his first time which is it blows my mind cuz it there's so much that needs to happen
In order for a movie like this to be actually be made and then actually see the theaters
That everything had to go perfectly right for in order to have for it to happen
One of the main things being that like Netflix literally shelved this movie when they had it completed

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Despicable which isn't saying we'll get back to that in a moment
But I think that it's crazy that this even all came together
Then he actually made it work and happen and then the final cut and you know
All of it as a whole is great. I loved it
And I think with this little Sam for me with this movie also highlights
Is that like me you don't need a big budget and I think we've talked about this several times in this podcast like a small

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Budget can really get you real far with you like somebody really willing to put in the practical effects
Yeah, and creativity like like if you look if we like we're not gonna base on actual totals
But we're gonna base it off a profit march
This movie's already a hundred percent in the profit like in the short term that's been out compared to like if you look at what's coming
At this he comes to know what's the ROI bro?
You're a hundred percent you like the under 112 percent Honda like fucking the

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Key
Fuck was his name Jordan peel
Like he already got his money out of it because he's the one that put up the money for this and monkey pop
Yeah, monkey pot and so like man like and I think this movie as time goes on
It's just gonna continue to be a fucking moneymaker because it's like yes
Not only is it running in theaters and it's gonna go on digital and I feel like that's where people were
And then it's going to Universal because Universal has the rights. Yeah, I think I think I'll make his way

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It's making money off of the theaters for the streaming
it's a beautiful thing that happens when like
There's a shitty situation and something good comes out of it because like Netflix shelved it right
They spent 20 million dollars on this movie and they just said hey, it's not
20 and then they sold its universal for 10
So that at a lot Netflix lost money, but then monkey paws making their money

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But yeah, but what's what's crazy to me is is like I'm so happy for Dev on this because like you look at Chris Pine
I love Chris Pine. He's a great actor, but swimming his what is it? Pullman is his dick directorial
Did you know it's getting absolutely in chart Charlie Day? He also had a movie that that just fucking bomb
It was shit. Yeah, and so it's like I love these actors
But like let's be honest like I'm so happy that the the brown guy, you know as other people of color ourselves

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Is the one who's actually like succeeding on this especially with every obstacle?
He had like this movie seems like like a nightmare and also a miracle
Actually, I'm glad you bring that up because as I was watching this movie I
I had it out a few thoughts because I was thinking you know, like no
You don't you don't see a guy like him leading a movie like this. No, no actually

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I don't know if it's rarely or fucking ever
Look at Oscar when it really seeps through them and the entirety of that fucking done George is there
There's a lot of heart and soul. All right, there's a lot of heart and soul and I said that like that's
That's one of the reasons why I'm we're so happy that it happened because it's like if this kid didn't give a fuck about

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Movies and like he was just like, you know, whatever. I'm just trying to make money or be you know a director or whatever
No, that's not the case at all. You definitely see like hey, he put so much just a passion
Yeah, exactly time into it and it and you can tell that it was like a sincere
Effort behind this film. Well, because a lot of action films are just alright. Let's throw some sick choreography

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Some some visual you look at Alexis talk. God damn it. No, I'm trying to add to this point
Like when you look at it, like he's this is like I spent ten years of my life on this and it definitely shows like yeah
I mean like if we if we say like he put ten million dollars over ten years
I know in a year a million a year dude, like he he put the time and you see it and like
Again, it's not redefining the genre, but it's giving it a whole new twist to what like is possible

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You know, I hate I mean I'm
Even as a you know, we're not gonna get political but I'm saying whatever it's get political whatever orientation you lie on any spectrum
There's the amount of times that like in my opinion
Someone who wasn't a brown or person of color
Facing all these challenges would have fucking gave up. They would have been like god damn it this gimbal broke or fuck

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We can't we can't film outside of the hotel. Maybe maybe a person of privilege would have you know what?
That's color aside we don't see color color I see color or colorblind actually
That had like it's had like let's say if Michael Bay had a fucking work with a ten million dollar
himself
Maybe like that's one fucking explosion. He's this in director finish it off and then say that he did

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You know, what's funny that that more often than not is the case
I feel like there's there's so many shitty movies that come out and then they're just kind of like, you know
What like the director quit two times and they had a higher new people and then like everyone was like, oh no
It's his fault his father. Everyone's pointing fingers
Then you get a shit production and then you'd like what went wrong and it's literally because there's no passion. There's no fucking care
They're you know, like not my problem. I'll push it onto the next I'm gonna tie it back real quick cuz Alexis said something stupid

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I was you know, I'm actually taking back what you said. It's not person person of privilege
It is person of color because my whole point on that my whole point on that is this is that?
He decided to say I think a lot of him was like there isn't anybody like me right now making movies that gets to go
To Hollywood we have to be in Bollywood. Yeah
Yeah, I know I have to make it and it was crazy cuz you have to make it either you're making it

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Our triple R or you're making you know say our our
Triple R or you end up with something like this where it's actually Hollywood like and it's not just like oh, it's not just
Bollywood literally like a movie that I wanted to make but and you know
I think that's why Jordan Pilsen was like
I think was the perfect person to have his like

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Production come to be behind it because he also understands like as a person of color and a person especially jumping in a horror
Which is not primarily directed
Honestly, he did reinvent that genre a little bit
Movies continue to be good. We don't know but but it is nice to see somebody in that position bring others
Oh, I knew it a hundred percent because he could easily be like extended a hand

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And I'm excited what this guy like what Dev can do with like 30 million shit or like fucking double it or even 20 million
Gorilla man bigger monkey. I think also the fact that I mean devs like movies in the past
I've done so well like I mean look at slim dog milliner did really well the green night
I mean, I like the green night. I know but it's one of those films like it's a he was good in it

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It's a green hornet. Oh
No, no, it's that's Rogan. I don't know what great night is. I don't watch green night. No, it's good
It's very different. So I think it's 24 film
Yeah, but it does really well the cinematography in the green night though was fantastic
And then also you did life of pie so life of pie was life of by
That's George's auto

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Title my sex tape
He did so well in all those movies that I think like
He was fortunate enough to be like alright now. This is my chance to like really you know
Do something and make it work and he fucking took it and ran with it and I'm glad that it happened
He took it and he probably could have could have quit a thousand times

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Well any person in their right mind might have
Like I shit I can't imagine like in terms of criticism though. Oh, yeah, he did do it. Shut the fuck up. All right
I
Like you're right you're right we've been dick-riding
What are some of the negatives that again real quick? All right, I'm close

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I think the obviously the action was fucking good, you know, but there are a lot of things that he was trying to juggle
You know
Maybe trying to shine a light on the political issues over there on that side of the world
But he couldn't really focus on it too much
And so it felt like there were many things happening at the same time in the background
But it wasn't it wasn't a focused vision. Yeah, cuz a lot of it a lot of some of the background stuff that he kept

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putting around him in like the short like
The the short like back literally the background moments
it just it didn't give enough to piece together and like
Like we had to pick up the pieces to kind of which is fine
I just didn't feel like a good like picking up a piece
And I don't think it's that type of movie and I want to recognize too that it's hard to do that
Cuz I mean, I think it's no no for sure cuz you you go to I mean you go to any culture, right?

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Like as Latin Americans will understand our culture is better
But I'm sure like you have someone from fucking Australia trying to trying to watch a movie about Peruvians and if it gets too deep
It's now not approachable. And so I think we even watching might. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly how they sound. Yeah, that's exactly
Again it still shouldn't have been something that he should have even highlighted right? I mean, I like the politicalness a little

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I think the politicalness added to the background of like I mean David tells background
Obviously and like how there's so many things that aren't just the twisted nature of life
Yeah, it adds a nice layer, but I think I would have liked to see it been more developed
It's like maybe showing a little bit more of like the Baba Shakti doing negative and I feel like that's kind of like a good

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Criticism because it's not like I'm saying like
I would have wanted more and I feel like with his perspective we would have learned
You hate the run time so much and I feel like if anything two hours was too short cuz like

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there was a lot of things that he needed to develop more like Alexis said, but I
Didn't hate the runtime
Actually, maybe cut out the shit with his mom. I get it. No, I get it. No, so my
And I see this a lot in the podcast. Oh the flashback is that the runtime mix makes sense
It makes sense
But if it's just like if I'm having 20 minutes of shit

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I just like didn't it didn't give me enough time to actually care about it or feel for it
Then don't fucking put okay. I agree
I agree with that because there's certain things like the flashbacks
I did not appreciate because I'm going back and forth and I was like I still don't understand what the flashbacks are flash
Like to the end of the movie too many same flashback. Yeah, he's running through the forest with and I'm like

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Like like fucking get over that like dude again like if it was 30 minutes longer, I think it would've been nice
It's been 20 minutes shorter. I think it would have been nice and like I agree. Yeah
I don't know if you guys watched the Bob Marley biopic. I watched it was good
So there's a similar scene where there was a bunch of flashbacks with like shit on fire and then his dad's on a horse
You remember it reminded me exactly that for some reason I was pissed about that. Yeah, that's why it's like what is going on

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I'm like less just explain. Yeah, it was it was a lot less like it
I didn't think it needed to be there for like the ten times it showed up
Yeah, so it was repetitive. I would have rather just like those ten times like filming or more what's going on
But that's another thing that I do have a complaint about the editing
I think that he did well with what he had to work with a lot of the shaky camera work all those different things
But a lot of the fight scenes, I feel like

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No, I know but a lot of the the cuts
I mean what I mean by the editing style is like a lot of the fight scenes
There's so many cuts that I'm just kind of like I almost get lost
But I like that they didn't only do that if I so cuz that's a really big cop out, you know
Fight movies where's like you're not gonna show one continuous cut
Yeah, I mean like we talked about the overhead shot, you know and how it's inspiration from other films and stuff like that

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Yeah, I love those types of shots just because it forces you to choreograph a fight all the way through. Yeah
I know but those are so much harder. I get that but I am saying it's like it's a critique
I'm not gonna like I wanted I wanted death to act more like he's a fantastic actor and in this movie
He just took fucking put he he did with I thought he had a lot of emotion
I especially like I don't have any issues

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Yeah, cuz especially when when he was facing off against Ron the first time like he was like shaking like literally we talked about that scene
Where it's like he has the gun out. He's like this is it. This is your chance
You're gonna get your vengeance and he doesn't shoot him
Yeah, I don't know. I just wish like for somebody that can act at the level that he can
He really went for the John Wick and again, I know they're referencing it and I keep bringing it up

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But like I think he could have said a lot more lines. Keep in mind. He was directing producing I get it
Stunt acting I get it. He broke multiple limbs. You're not wrong though
There's other aspects of acting and range that he could have done
But I I personally enjoyed a lot of the range that he did show but I'm not disagreeing that he could have done more
I always think you know, this was an incredibly difficult

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We're talking out of our ass cuz you know, he had a do you had to do with funding issues COVID
Did any of us one of us directed this as their first? Yeah
But he did get the rig
Flex flex on he did have 20 years of experience with slumdog skins and the ton of
I watched a lot of actors that we

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Like sorry fine Charlie day and they fucking suck. They fucked it
Even Chris Evans tried probably Chris Evans has America's ass. So he sucks. Oh, you know, who just directed the first one, too
Please don't say something. I just said no the guy from new girl
New girl
Nick from new girl. I think he did. Yeah, he did one. Let me look it up

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In the meantime one thing I wanted to add to is we haven't really talked about his side characters
So in my opinion, you know, both of them actually were good
They they had a lot of like scenes that developed and added to the story
But I do think that Sita didn't really do as well as Alfonso
Alfonso was funny at the interactions that he had really served to show how came in strong
Yeah, and how Bobby was able to get higher up into like the organization. He was really key

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He was crucial and like even the friendship seemed a little genuine at times
Which was kind of sad that you realize Bobby's just using him. He's on so probably feels like a little bit more
I feel like Alfonso had to put up this front like this hard guy
Oh, yeah, his legs all fucked up and like the higher-ups were just like, yeah making fun of them
And that's what sad is no, I don't think you'd use that he leveraged that he's like, oh, I'm gonna

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Know it's like it's kind of like the same thing that you see from like a typical bully
Right, like if they're bullying you it's cuz they're getting bullied somewhere else
And so like the way he acted like with the rest of the servers and cooks and stuff downstairs
Versus how he was treated
It's it's pretty obvious
But uh, see that though on the other hand, I mean, there's a lot of aspects to it
You know, it almost seemed like at certain points. She was getting introduced as a potential romantic character

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Which I mean, I think they had like 30 minutes like I said 30 minutes more they could probably
Think she was just really a vessel to show that there's some like sexual like exploitation or trafficking going on
Not only that but I think a lot of it too is just to show that it's he's not the only one who's experiencing like this
Like it's just adding it to a more, you know, like with with alpha and with Sita. It was showing like we are all

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victims to this corruption
To these people and just different aspects of that, right alpha killed it, you know all of them did
But I'm curious about your guys's thoughts like if there was anything in particular
I think I would have probably got rid of the aspect of like focusing on a singular person like they did
Yes
and I would have probably focused on them like other stuff that was happy to the other girls in the club instead of like

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Just saying we're gonna focus on this one chick, right and make it seem it was kind of like a love interest connection
I would have got rid of that and just made it seem like okay this one person like the
The police chief did this to this he did this to another person, you know
He did like just they did have certain aspects of that now with just with the girls that were being trafficked also with the
Girls or the people the temple wasn't there a certain scene where the trans community? Yeah, cuz they the

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The corrupt cops came in remember and then they were like, oh we're gonna close this place down or whatever
I think the crap out of yeah
And you gotta come up with this money or we're gonna you know screw you
So they were also like a vessel for and I think they did a really good job there because you know
I was actually just watched the Batman this weekend again
And I was looking at the scenes again with Catwoman where she's like looking
It was she's in the club like like 44 below at the iceberg lounge

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And she's like she's really taking that role of like
Overseeing and helping out her sisters or the other women who work there
And I feel like I would have preferred that over like this whole potential romantic relationship because I did like that
They didn't develop the romance
It's like just because we're both facing the same level of corruption doesn't mean we automatically got fucked but it still felt superficial
No, yeah, I do think that I'm glad that they didn't develop the the romantic side of it

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But they should develop their kind of connection and relation
I would have liked it if she was almost showing like as a as a
Role model or as a like not a savior but like someone who was helping the other women there
Yeah
Or like even if she wasn't that role like just like you said develop some of the other characters
I you mentioned that and then showed their community like you have Bobby's community where how he kind of fell in with the alpha with

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Alphas and and also where he stood with the rest of like the slums like his network of people who he was able to rely on
So I think this kind of goes back to my critique because like we saw that he could
balance well, you know showing a community like the the trans community as the from the temple that like
Brought him back to health like he did really well and showing us their struggle

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But then you know what the other ones like not so much
And so he really should have just focused on that one that makes me wonder is that kind of want to watch now what?
the on the unedited version what what Jordan Peele saw because him like
yeah, he even thought it one of the interviews like a Jordan made me like
essentially made him like cut down the movie a lot more and figure out a more better pacing so maybe there's maybe they think if

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they would get some myself in there and
Made it might have been a different movie, you know, but if you're listening
Release on the director's director's cut. Come on. Make it happen. Snyder's doing it for fucking that stupid ass movies might as well
Of course now bringing in DC

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The new one the rebel whatever that's not okay, you're a rebel, okay
Rebel moon movie was garbage. Yeah
Who's shit in my pants
I asked us is in there. Okay. All right. Well, I think we've we've touched base on a lot of the time

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Favorite scenes. Yeah, let's do that. Isaac. What do you think was your favorite scene my favorite scene?
It's kind of tough. I don't really have a favorite. All right George. So what's your favorite scene?
once he
Redeemed himself out training and did all that and like that little montage and he came back and fought in the ring again
And he just absolutely kicks that fucking guys. That's just destroys them. That was one kick

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Yeah, just kicks him. Everyone was like hyping them up like like no way actually everyone's booing
Yeah, I want him to lose and then he just kicks his fucking ass and they're like
monkey man
Was crazy I love an accent, you know tiger was just like what the fuck dude that wasn't part of the script bro

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What are you doing? Yeah, but that was great. I love that. That was a good scene
I'm how he utilized that little kid to bet to like do like oh, yeah
He was like I'm gonna kick his motherfucking ass and let's make it happen
Alexis, what do you think? I like the any man when he really fucks up a
Indian Jesus with what the fucking thing and you know stabs his skull, you know repeatedly

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There are some reactions in the theater like a lot of who's in the
But actually watches in an empty
It's gonna suck man, it was just me my girlfriend
All right, Nick. All right for me. I really like the training montage. I know Isaac had his
Because you just like you know, you want to know why the training montage was cool

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I really liked the drum beat and like how basically he was using the drum beat to like tell him like this
How fast you need a punch and helping him develop that was very creative
I like that but using like a way to help develop a rhythm and fighting which is super important
But also like bringing in the culture of it because I'm sick fucking you're you're in a I mean, you're not a boxer
But you like you did see right or what do you do that?

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Doesn't matter he's my friends love me
But regardless the self is that realistic? Is that something they're like, I mean obviously as a fighter you have to develop rhythm
But do you think someone would actually use that?
And it actually be beneficial. Yeah, I mean I I mean whenever we'd spar fight
We always put on music and I every time I do it with music. It feels a lot more like I have my breath control

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I have yeah, because I can I can try to like even because you know
My fighting style is a lot of bouncing a lot of movement in general. So like you start to bounce to rhythms
Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome
And so if you don't do that and if you don't start to develop things that will help you kind of gain your rhythm
It'll make it a lot harder. So it's not gimmicky is like realistically someone can
Well, I feel like you know, you can find that rhythm and I think that when you run

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Yeah, you listen to music when you run you have a rhythm and I think I think it wasn't even it was it wasn't even about
Just establishing rhythm it was about challenging and pushing him because like I think what basically he was trying to say
He's like right now you're you're going through your training, but you need someone to push you
I mean every boxer is a coach, right? Yeah, and so that's what he was kind of playing at
He's like, I'm not gonna punch with like you but I'm gonna tell you like punch like jab jab cross jab jab cross

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He kept telling him to do that one at the beginning and he was increasing the speed
The rhythms do I sound like soft?
Wax off all the time, you know, but too much too much
Yep, his assholes perfectly wax. It's beautiful. I love it. We'll post that
Whoever sends an email
That'll be the signature
The first person that gets an email gets you see a car. We don't know

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It's just a rooster. No, I Isaac did you ever figure out your favorite scene? No. All right
All right. Well going back to Alexis the thing at that scene with the sandals
I always thought I thought that was really interesting though like sandals. Yeah how the oh, yeah
He he literally says that the sandals were what's his name?

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He talks about how the shoes were specifically made so they don't harm small creatures
We're actually talking about the Jesus we're talking from from Big Lebowski from Big Lebowski. Yeah, that's exactly great ball
Yeah, and then how it's engraved in the wood that he's not gonna hurt others
And then he uses it as a fucking knife to try to kill the kid
That's it's ironic and kind of hilarious and I like that. That was a nice detail. All right

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That's the best scenes now. Let's jump into letterbox letterbox reviews
Alright, so these are again people that follow us and then we follow back on letterbox on our for guys one film
Shout out to you guys
All right, and this one
Is by Jay two and a half stars. This is trying so hard to be like John Wick

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I feel some decent fight scenes for the camera work was all over the place
I feel like it only got decent in the last 20 minutes or so
So going back to what we were talking about earlier
It is trying to be John Wick, but it wears that proudly on its sleeve and I think that's okay
Yeah, and I feel like it
It dissolves that layer of John Wick it does it does become something exactly. It's not it's it's partial John Wick

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Which I mean fuck at what point are we gonna start saying like how are you not taking influences from things in film?
How you make a fucking action film that doesn't have influence from thousands of action films or other
Yeah, John wick is is heavily influenced by by other
Boy, yeah, I've seen an old boy in the and when he's in the hallway and is one continuous shot where he's beating up all

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These goons that's been referenced millions and millions of times over. It doesn't mean like oh, they're trying to be old boy
It's like no no that they're giving homage to it. Yeah
I'm sorry that like, you know old boy developed one of the greatest ways to do an action sequence
Should we just not do it anymore like directors in a modern era are standing on the shoulders of Giants and it's very difficult
To create something new and bring something new to any genre and I think he did that

(45:57):
Well, I think that's you know something he should deserve kudos for
Yeah, and so I feel that two and a half stars a little too low. It's a little hard a little low
It's a little harsh, especially knowing kind of behind the scenes, you know, you couldn't it I was effort here
You definitely see the amateurness of like it being his first film
But that doesn't take away from the fact that it's still great for what it is. Yeah, so but hey, you know what?

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That's his review
Yeah
Alright, this one is by double D
Jurassic four and a half star an anthem for the underdog the voiceless to marginalize
I'm not a fan of action genre, but I love this movie
I was mesmerized the whole time every fighting fight scene was incredible amazingly shot great music

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They cried the music was great
Said I never watched an action movie with so much soul and heart. I need to watch some rocky movies
Def Patel I'm an awe of you. I hope you never stop making some sick-ass movies four and a half stars
I feel like opposite energy from that first one. Yeah
I mean, there's not much else we could add to that. I think he summed it up really well

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I forgot about the music but the music with the with the drums
So the music that they remix that are like like like more popular culture like songs are really nice too. Yeah, absolutely
Yeah, that's all right. Yeah amazing. All right. This one's by Snyder house two stars the hype did not
Resonate at all for me after being so excited to watch Dev Patel cook

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No sense of world no sense of story the words John Wick are said out loud and hey
Establishing shots are kind of important. I don't know if they're trying to say that there were too many establishing
establishing shots of the city maybe
but
Interesting, I disagree that there's no sense of world or no sense of story. I think maybe in the way that it's maybe a little too
Like it's too crumbled. There's there's too much world that doesn't really focus on what this fuck is

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Consider how it was filmed like he had one small island in quarantine to work with and it still felt like it was a grand
I mean, yeah
I felt huge that's like saying like old boy like or talking about like fucking any one of these rooms or
Movies were like they're all in one room. It's like your world building doesn't have to be the entire city
You live in it could be as small as the room like, you know

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If you're stuck or trapped in something in those look at reservoir dogs exactly. It's like it
Yeah, it's it's all about building the setting that you're trying to be in it was the hotel
it was the ring and and then it was slight shots of them going around the city to show that
Poverty was everywhere and everybody's experiencing it. They also actually they also had the temple too. I felt like the temple was great

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Yeah
No
I I think that that's a little bit of harsh to say that it was like not grand when it's like reality
What he had to work with he made it feel like a real world that he's living
I did not feel like a movie where they were trapped and had to film in a hotel through quarantine
There's so many other movies where I feel like they're doing blue screen or green screen and it's like it literally does not feel like

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They're they're literally in a studio in fucking Hollywood and that's it here. It did not feel like
Shit in tainters like yeah, no, but yeah, you can see the grime here. You can see the sweat. It feels real. So
Going back to like the hype. I think the hype lived up to it
I honestly like I saw so many
Previews of this and everything like the interviews and how it came about and I was super high for it and I wasn't disappointed

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I felt like I was happy there was a sick-ass billboard down the 405 on the way over here of the movie
So that was pretty sick. Yeah, anyways, that's two stars right there
Just our thing at least like we have one words that we got two more. I'll make this one quick
This was by Jared a bit messy at times
But ultimately awesome love how the film views violence against their presses is justified but still brutal

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Too many action films these days don't even seem to think of violence at all
Yeah, I mean that's true. They we don't really think about the repercussions of people getting murdered
Yeah, or these are the motivation sometimes like sometimes motivations
It's like oh you fucked my daughter you killed, you know killed my wife and it's like terrible things
Don't get me wrong, but you don't just get to murder 50 people now, right?

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And then and then keep murdering more people for three more movies after that. Yeah. Yeah, and this one it's like
He let go of his life
John Wicks kill can oh my god. That's borderline. It's still like four times the amount this movie was
I think I wonder how much a death Patel or bubby killed in this movie. We should we should track that down later

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I mean cuz I don't I don't know if he didn't like unlike John wick
He didn't kill everybody like like it was funny to me like when he came back the second time
Like he wasn't killing them until they kept coming back like so many of them
He just knocked out and kept walking into the elevator
You know, like it didn't seem like he was even trying to kill everybody like like when he was downstairs in the
like the kitchen all those scenes like so many times he would walk away from her after hurting them and

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Then they'd come back. He's like I heard you a little bit more but it seemed like one
It was a great way to show he's trying to save energy and two it was like my beef isn't with you
I'm here for Rana and I'm here for Indian Jesus. That's it. Baba Shakti actually now that's making me think
Do you think he would have killed Baba Shakti if he didn't stab his ass?
It's like there was a moment of doubt cuz it was like I don't think his beef was with Baba Shakti

(51:12):
It was with like the the main cop guy, right?
That was like hey, he was definitely with Baba shakhi is the only reason that the chief no, I know but the chief
Literally in cold blood murder his mom and set her on fire like yeah
I think he had like I think he had confirmation that the chief needed to die
But in his head he was like whether I decide to kill Baba Shakti or not is still up to debate

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And he made it easy for him once he started to kill him
Also, it didn't seem like Baba Shakti was that bad of a guy
No until the end that the reveal where it's like, okay
Like he's been behind all this the entire time and he plays this like I will say your figure
Was like seen from a mile. I don't even consider that a twist
I mean I was like that's so obvious for me, which I don't know for sure

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But it's also like he's supposed to appreciate like an M. Night Shyamalan fucking yeah
I like it like 45 minutes long. It was alpha all along and then it just ended. Yeah
Yeah, I like that too. All right. All right. This is our final one. All right, they give it a four star Matthew shit
Absolutely bang Bravo death Patel action was so well executed back through his great style was so slick and the music popped off Queen

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He served so hard and dead was fucking hooning it on his little scooter amazing to directorial debut
You have more money. This is awesome. Who we even really talked about Queenie Queenie did a great too
Great villain honestly bet way better than any of the other villains in my opinion Queenie. What was that guy's review?
Four stars four stars. Okay. Oh, yeah, nobody gave it a five

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No, I agree this guy's good. This is great. Like everything just hit
Perfectly. All right, George talking about fucking give you review then helpful
No, I mean it's time to marinate. It sounds like you've already made your decision to get her kill. Let it out
I give it a seven. Oh interesting. I give it again like that's pretty good
No, like I thought it was a good had a lot of good bones

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I either I would have appreciated 20 minutes less or 30 minutes more and
Better editing like in terms of inputting story and I think he would have had like a fucking like absolute banger
He would have had a like instant classic
He would have had like it was a movie you go back to and then like motherfuckers in film school
Our audio technician that missed out today like this is the type of shit that they'd be like

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This is what you can do with $10 million you assholes. Like this is what you guys should strive for
Yeah, so just as a beginner film. Yes
This is the state you have to compete against and I think
Literally, I think I if he does like two or three movies and he really like hey
Maybe we should like like at him on like social media cuz it seems like he would actually like reply back to it

(53:43):
And like look cuz he did a good job like through and through did a good job
We I think we gave him like I think fair criticism in this podcast
Like it wasn't like we didn't we weren't mean about it
We were mean like we could have been mean but like it would have been constructive and I think we gave him in this
we gave him an honest opinion and honest like response to what I agree what he can work on because he

(54:06):
Honestly when he deserves to continue to do movies and to I think he has a really bright future and especially because
He's a man of color. So this kid's got it
Alexis, what about you buddy? I'll also give it a seven solid action flick and again
I don't I don't want to reiterate but same thing that I think says he did a good job with what he had and shit
Like if he had with more money and less obstacles, I think he'll do amazing

(54:29):
Yeah, you know, I'm gonna give it an eight and and and it's not even just because I think it would always be an eight
I feel bad saying it might have a crutch because it's his first film or because of all the difficulties he's been through
But he did phenomenal and like the more that I started thinking about like just how he looked he looked amazing
He worked really hard for that body, especially at that age
The music all the things that we didn't really get a chance to cover necessarily. Mm-hmm

(54:53):
I just want to give it a higher score. So I'm landing at eight. That's nice
That's nice. I think I'm gonna have to agree with Nick on this when I was thinking eight same exact thing
I think that this hits home mainly because it's like you're so from Mumbai. No, no, cuz it's a miracle that
It's a miracle that movies are made even at all let alone a good movie
And not only that every time he talks about it

(55:15):
There's nothing but raw passion and humble then yeah
And you see how humble he is like, I like I don't know if I could do it
And then he just like he's honed it he's like I'm gonna make it happen. It's never like I fucking did it
I'm amazing. It's like I'm glad I got to do this
Yeah
and then it just it's beautiful to see that he put it hard and soul into it and then it actually came into fruition and
Then ended up with this product that people were able to see like people like us that appreciate movies

(55:36):
And then overall just the final product I really enjoyed so eight solid eight. I loved it. Great
Wow looks like on average we gave it a seven point five
Well, I think if you haven't checked it out yet and go check out monkey man, it's a great movie
Also listen to our other John wick podcast. We did I think we only did four right? We did chapter four

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Yeah, we did four so you have to go back and do them. We've had a lot of action films out here
We've done, you know, credit or predator Creed. We've gotta go back to the romance
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