When Evil Lurks (2023)

The guys gaze into the realm of demonic possession and its consequences with Demián Rugna's When Evil Lurks.

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Welcome back to another episode of four guys one film today. We're reviewing this film when evil lurks by

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La mian roogs or Ruegner Ruegner also known in Spanish as cuando secha la maldad
It's a very interesting film. I quite enjoyed it myself
It's basically so the director said he got the inspiration for the film
Based on events in rural Argentina where pesticides were causing widespread health issues

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to the population so
A little bit about the film. It's I mean it's gory. It's
Creepy it's a very it's an eerie film and it kind of gives you nobody is safe
It creeped me the hell out to be honest with you, but I loved it. So
Let's jump in to a little bit more about it

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it follows these two brothers, it's Pedro and
Jimmy Jimmy right and essentially
It doesn't really give you too much exposition in the beginning and it slowly develops and you're kind of following along
learning as much with the characters
but it's basically about demonic possession and it manifests itself in children in animals and

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And it's just very creepy. I don't know. So what do you guys think? I mean, let's just jump right into it
This is the better horror movie that I've seen in the all the time that we've been together as a group, right?
What about your life my life? I think it'd probably be like top 15. There's you haven't seen 15 horror movies
20 look no you haven't Alexis all it matters is that he finally got one list it. There's like eight Halloween movies brother

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I've seen all of them. You see that doesn't count man. There's no no no you said if I've seen horror movies, right?
eight screams
All right, all right. We get it like so he hasn't watched too many but I'm glad that this is one of the ones you've actually
When evil lurks it's here, man
Let's take these dubs one step at a time. All right, this we're inching him closer liking these films. Thank goodness

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Also, I didn't we should do a thing something a little bit more different this time and start with like what we
Kind of not rate the movie per se but like what we think about it and then we can jump into like spoilers
Okay, breaking down. Okay, right. I think people would want to
Know if it's a good watch. I genuinely enjoyed it. This is my first time seeing it. It's very different. It's a foreign film

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It's from Argentina. It's in Spanish
And I think it brings something to the horror genre that is a little bit different because it's not necessarily about
Just jump scares or you know harrowing itself. It's also just watching these regular people have to deal with something
Unworldly and they don't really know how to act and it kind of gives you a perspective like what would you do in that situation?

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So what's interesting already is that this world is already lived in whereas in other horror films people are just kind of like
Wait, what's that? What's that?
But everybody knows what this is and everyone's okay with it and therefore everyone should know how to react to it
But they don't yeah, which is similar to you know, whatever
Influenced the director right? I think also the reason why it feels like again going back to your point that they know everything

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That's going on how it's working out and what it needs to be done
But I think the fact that since they lived in a small town where like evil and corruption really never happened
Right, it was like they were living in their own like isolated bubble and not to give a spoiler like
Not yet not yet, right?
But like one of the people that like it's very important to moving the movie forward and understanding the world

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She moved to that reason she moved to that place for that reason right because she wasn't gonna experience it anymore
Right, yeah, it's like people ran and that was though
It felt like that's the whole premise of the story is that that they purposely isolated themselves to run away and escape
And so once it came time for them to act they were grossly unprepared for to deal with it

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Yeah, they were unemotionally like not trying to be rational like they were being rational but not rational right?
Yeah, yeah, because I feel like to a certain extent like as the main character goes on they explain a certain way to deal with the issues
But they did it anyways that it just like
Emotion right yeah, and we thought that was gonna be the solution because normally I kind of would be the solution right you just

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Fucking take care of it that way and right it would work out
But in this case it just feeds the evil
Yeah, that was kind of one of the themes of the film which is another interesting thing about it which is the you know being rational versus
irrational and
for whatever reason the
Irrational part of being a human being always one which is what allowed this evil to you know persist and continue and grow and

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Become this thing right and so just I think it's a lot about human nature
But I think to us as an audience to really I think it really hits home because it shows us things that we're not used to seeing and like I
Think typical
American horror films which is you see children get hurt and you see animals get hurt which are like the most innocent

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Creatures that you know we can we can be around yet. They are the ones that carry this evil and
And hurt others
Yeah, it's very taboo like yeah, it feels very strange being able to see it on screen
I think that's one of the reasons that it led to this this movie
I think they released it unrated like not it wasn't rated because it probably would have gotten something higher than our rating so

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but it
Definitely added to the art aspect
Watching these children get hurt watching these animals and like everything and then like the humans not knowing what to do
right for me was it was a
What was really cool about this movie too on top of that is as far as a horror movie
You know I read about it and I noticed it after too there there was zero jump scares this movie didn't utilize

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No, I would I would disagree with you when the dog attack the little girl
But it's not it's not a jump because the jump scares usually are supposed to be taken from outside of the scene and then jump cut into something new
Well, even transition right so like that's the thing like even like there's a lot of shocking things and there's a lot of sudden events
But it's it's never gonna be like
Ah, all of a sudden like the dog grabbing the child was kind of like it was sudden

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It was sudden
But it was also like kind of like even when I made it I made the comments like oh that dogs in a grab that kid
Yeah, and that happened because the dog kept literally looking over right looking over right looking over right and it was just like okay
The dogs something's wrong
They had set up the stage for the dog to have been possessed by smelling the clothes
You know not now that we're kind of jumping into everything
So that was really an interesting fascinating way to do a horror movie compared to what I'm used to where they just rely

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heavily on jump scares and any other sort of kind of cliche tactics to get the audience to
To react this one was was a lot of shock shock with like you guys said the treatment of humans and animals throughout the film
I read a lot about people commenting obviously on how women just in general were treated to and they were kind of disregarded whether it was
The mom whether it was Mirtha towards the end like it was it was just a lot of things that kind of I guess

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Resonated with people as especially as a Latin audiences. They're like yeah
It's it really hits that machismo of of like being in Latin America like hard
But it also is a little bit different than your average typical demonic possession
See but I think if this is like a real like let's say like there was a possession going in Latin America where you know
Catholicism is so engraved into the culture like I feel like this wouldn't have happened

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Like you know like well, that's actually one point that Alexis brought up especially
Especially like if you talk about in like a small town or a small village outside of the main city like Catholicism
Rules over those fucking places. See well, that's one thing that it's a very like big trope in movies
Where it's like it's a demonic possession and then there's a priest and they're fighting good versus evil this didn't have that

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I feel like this was logic and evil and that's it
There wasn't no like well there was a set of rules
But it wasn't like even in the scene in the beginning with Yuri on the mother and
Yeah, he's with evil give her power
She said we called them a year ago to try to help us and get and and they called the cleaner
which in this case is the people that you know exercise the demons and

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She said well, I called them they didn't come and I thought prayer would you know help them or make them better
And then immediately Jimmy he was like there is no prayer
There's no more churches like God is that like he's not gonna help you and it goes back to one of the things that Alexis brought up
Can we can we go back to like the mom actually?

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One of the things that that I think influenced the film was the director said that he he's not really religious, right?
Yeah, what did you look up?
He said that he leaves in religion as a faith but doesn't believe in it as a business
Which is what it's become unfortunately. No, that's a hundred percent. Yes. He like even recently here in LA
They're they're giving out eight hundred million dollars to like kids that were touched. Oh

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Yeah, that was the Catholic church. I didn't get a dime. That was a
Now that's a very morbid fact, but unfortunately, it's reality. Yeah
That was like that was like last week dude. It was crazy. Yeah, the Catholic
No, no, it's because when evil lurks it lurks, you know
But you will also touches not just like yeah, but no I think going back to like cuz you know

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They were like they went to the police officer station and they were like hey, did you guys were just guess here report?
And they we never got a report. They really swept it under the rug
Those policemen were capping bro. They a hundred percent got a report and they didn't give a fuck. No, I don't do so because of like
I think they were just like we're washing our hands. We know what the fuck is going on
These demons are killing everyone. We're not getting involved. Like what are we gonna do?

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We can't even use guns. No, but if that was the case, you know, all you have to do is call the cleaners
Well, I think it's it's a little bit of incompetence. It's a little bit of night
I have a D like of like oh that shit's not gonna happen here because they kept saying that they're like here
No, we're not in the city. We're not there, right?
And I think a big thing too for this movie like going back into the Catholic and like how that would actually play out in South America
I mean we hit it on the on the nose with the director was saying that's what Mirata said too

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Her and her husband were running the church like a business and it was when that actor who they thought they were so used to those guys coming in
You know speaking in tongues doing whatever bullshit started throwing up and vomiting like a person that they realized
Holy shit like what we've been just doing just to make money is real and like these demons exist and and I think that's very real

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For some people too and like I think it even goes to say how the mom of Ariel how she all of a sudden decided to go to prayer
Once she wasn't getting the answer she wanted
I think that's also kind of an explanation as to like the failure of the religion where it's like, you know
Are you gonna fucking just ask for help?
Once you don't have what you need or are you always praying to your God? Are you always? Yeah?

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It's like why don't you pray before your child got before bed?
It's like it's already when it's too late. You're like that's when you turn to God
Okay, then you know you weren't really a believer to begin with but that's like that's that's the case in like every scenario
Right and like this kind of one of the things that I fight about with my mom a little bit because like oh
Okay
Let's do it like my mom had cancer a couple years ago and like she's like why aren't you religious Isaac?

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And I'm just like hey like you didn't grow up like that like I didn't get my fucking first community
I was 14 you think I'm at 14. I'm gonna believe in this shit like I don't like I believe you were you
Weren't raised like super really. I feel like you're not baptized. I was baptized the first comedian dick
I feel like your parents have always been pretty religious especially

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I was messing. Oh, no, you weren't fucking messing. I saw that face
No, that was a natural liberal quote
I don't want to go too far. You need to go jack black

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Jack plug is Mexican just off not your
We take them in as one of our own no, but getting back to my point
I'm like you can't believe in something if that's not like
Inherently like I honestly believe if my mom never would have had cancer
She wouldn't have been going to church the same way she goes to now if she wouldn't have gone through these traumatic experiences
That happen to her life because before that she was just like I'm just gonna work every day

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I'm not gonna go into church. That was never that's like a common thing that happens
Which is I guess put it in simple terms
But when she gets real people turn towards religion because you know, they're afraid that maybe you know some like logical things
Like science or whatever maybe that won't help them. So, you know something that they can't explain like God will and so and I think it's

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Perfectly natural. I don't know if anything
I think it's a good thing because it you know gives you that faith to like that things are gonna get better
But but you know some people do take it super far and then they you know, they make that their life
Well, I think that the truth of the matter is that when you look at religion religion tells you have faith believe things will get better
Science tells you it's just probability get over it. It might happen again

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It might not who gives a shit and like that's the thing that people don't get is when they face their traumas when they go through
Like the hardships in their life
Nobody wants to hear that just fucking happens that you're not special and see but I get it right but like in my head
I'm thinking logically, right? Yeah, if there was a person like God, right?
Would you want to be just all you want to hear is fucking complaints or do you want like oh like one something bad?

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Like it's like like if you have a bad family member
Do you want to hear about them when they're having their fucking problems?
Like all of a sudden you show up to my place because you have an issue like no
Yeah, well, that's but that's thing about the movie because if you if you remove religion then you remove
Logical beliefs and ideas and so then you're only left with logical decisions yet these people make the most

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Illogical decisions throughout the film. Yeah, that's exactly what and that's what's kind of evil, right?
Well, brother, but that's why evil's winning because we killed God evil's lurking. Yeah, no, and then fucking the main character
That's a good point Jimmy is literally making all the wrong decisions, but it's also kind of like
Pedro sorry
He's making all the incorrect calls, but it's also because he's like acting on impulse and me like I know you said

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There's a way that you have to do it to do it correctly
He's like but my fucking son is dying my my family is in danger like
Obviously, it seems easier to just bash fucking someone in the head and kill the demon, but it's like in the movie
It's like no, that's exactly what they want. It's also that's how you spread the evil and make it
It's another life lesson to boys right there. You know what good things take time. They do you have to be patient?

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No, yeah, you have to be patient you can't act on impulse or emotion
You really got to think things through logically and understand what you want the outcome to be rather than you know just
Act however you want and get you know
Yeah, but get the shortcuts but but this movie was fucking nuts man because like you know shit went down when you know
They lost the body right of the of the main of the main demon and then

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The guy kills the goat because he thinks the the goats a demon and then the wife kills the guy her husband
And then she kills herself and she's pregnant and it's like that's how that's how fearful these people are
Yeah, so I don't think woman was possessed at the same time too
So they just off each other just to finish that yeah
I think in the beginning it seemed like she killed herself and him in order to protect them

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But they yeah, it seems more like it's all part of the process did it but also he was so close to killing
Fuckin you're real in the beginning and he stopped himself because he's like fuck you can't do it like that
You keep no guns. You can't shoot him. That's how the demons
You know
Possess and it spreads faster. It's part of the seven rules that they established and then he stopped himself

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But for some reason he couldn't
He couldn't do it with the goat. It was weird. It was like shit
You know, I mean, I think unfortunately
That's what movies need though is like that idea that your will can eventually be broken
Like no matter how strong willed you are like it seems like only Mirtha like throughout the whole film
Was able and capable to like maintain that strong will and being like I understand that this is you know a

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Stupid situation with all these kids kind of trying to fool us and and you know the scariness of like the setting and
But I'm not gonna let it get to me
I'm gonna do what I know is continued what I can know I can continue to do which is
Assemble this machine to take care of your you know one thing that I also noticed is that
The men's decisions led to the deaths of all the women. Yep, literally like going back to what Nick was saying the

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amount of bad decisions the men made literally led to the demise of all the older lady at the end the
Mom wife the mom with the two kids in the beginning the wife literally told the husband don't shoot the fucking goat
He shoots it. She ends up dying with the child. She's like begging him. She's literally crying. Don't shoot him
Don't shoot him. Please please no guns and then

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The little after they both get possessed the little girl. Yeah, it so maybe it's also like Nick saying it's literally talking about
Toxic masculinity and how it leads to these bad decisions cause the harm of people around us that we just the idea of you ignore your women
Right, you know, you don't consult them like there's failures in a lot of them, too
Like you know talk about an irony in the mom where she's the one who actually starts the the

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Exposition section of revealing what the demon kind of is slightly with the rules
But she there she goes. She's like, yeah, you can't say the name speaking of names Lucifer Azrael
Bells above it's like what the fuck even the the Sun was like Pedro was all pissed
He's like stop it like knock it off the income and it kind of shows that again religious aspect where she's like

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She's gonna wear her like religious like imagery on her neck
It was yeah, it was like kids and she had a little tiny thing to well
Then I'm sorry my mistake
But but even then like for as someone who probably at some point was religious
But only use religion kind of in that last moment as prayer because even even when

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Speaking of like scenes once we eventually get to it watching fucking a higher
All of a sudden kind of surpasses autism come inside and speak coherently was fucking shocking
It was a really impactful. So you make me some tea mama. Yeah, like super calmly
I'm just moving about she was over here like by herself kind of chanting you could tell she was praying right and so it's again

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That idea of like prayer only in the lowest dire needs and not actually prayer for devotion or prayer because you're right
So I think this movie did a lot of really cool interesting things that like not a lot of other religious movies
Do not a lot of other like possession type movies do let's let's also I think to get a bigger perspective
What the directors like the real intentions of why he made this movie? I think kind of play into what's going on

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And I'm not too sure in the background. I think one of you guys looked it up
Yeah, well one of the things he's mentioned was that you know just seeing those stories of the pesticides, but he didn't say that that was like a full
Like influence towards the towards the story. I mean obviously this guy's like a horror fan, too
Yeah, and so he just wanted to do like an exorcism film or a possession film without without a priest to save the day at the end or

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In other words also without religion, right? Because possession is always
Connected toward religion and so how do you make a story about that without the religion?
And in a way he kind of did it without it, but at the same time it's still with religion
Yeah, cuz even the absence of religion like it's it's still weighs over the whole story
And you know when one of the main the chick then you had a like I guess

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Cleans right. She's a cleaner the cleaner, right? She's like we learned from some monks how to do this shit, right?
And these are the only ways you can do it
Kind of monks are these that's my my thing is like was it was that like because she showed like an object, right?
Like this is the only thing that can kill. Yeah, like you said most of this some Da Vinci coach here, right? Yeah, it felt like

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I mean it felt like you know it kind of gave me that vibe of like those monks, you know
And I'm glad that I didn't really go into who they were our actual devout like religious practicing people
You know what I mean? Yeah, like she had to go find people who know about this
I think she said they showed up. Well, I'm what I'm saying is actually you might be right
I don't know if I remember if it was they showed up or if she went her husband at the time went to go find them

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But what I'm saying though is I think that's what I liked is that the idea these people just being different than all the other
Church owning, you know business running people that lived in the city, you know
These are people who actually knew about this stuff who've probably studied about this stuff
And that's why they had the methods and tools to do this
I'm curious about what you guys think about horror movies in general and for specific that have kind of the the loss at the end

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You know, there's there's movies that you have
Usually tends of being like the slasher films that they win or they overcome in the end
You know, they put Jason back in the water. They cut off, you know, Michael's head
Whatever the fuck it is, but then you have movies like this where they lost it was a astounding defeat
You know at the end of the day, they couldn't overcome whatever was corrupting them

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Like do you feel like it really is better in one way shape or form?
Like what this movie have been any better or worse?
I think in this instance this movie was a lot better for it because like when the when the super demon, right?
That's what I'm gonna name this thing, right?
Super demon when the devil incarnate over there super demon. We don't the anti-christ bro

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Voldemort is born again. Okay, when Voldemort fucking is resummon into this world, right?
He slash she because we don't all right. It was a little ambiguous of what the gender. It's it's it's a demon
So non-binary, we're gonna say it
when it was born
He could eat it could

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Know it could have easily killed Pedro in that moment and just that would have been in the movie
And it kind of left them like you know what to torture you for the rest of your life
Absolutely you fucking piece of trash garbage. You literally did it so he could see
In
Like I want you to find all the fucking remains of your mother and your autistic son

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I think you didn't go insane in the membrane and just gonna just he's gonna cry for the rest of his life
Yeah, no, I think it ended really fucked up
But it kind of adds to the you know overall evilness of the film
It's just like fuck it nothing was resolved
Everyone he loved died. It's only him and his brother all his kids are dead and then the demon one
It's just like fuck. How would you guys fair in this movie?

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In this setting
Honestly, like if I put myself in that guy's shoes and I imagine that my brother was taken. I'm dead
I'm fucked. Alexis is for sure fucking up a demon like he's bringing out a shotgun shooting them all fucking ahead
I'm gonna make it personal and then and it's like shit. You got me
I'd like to think it'd be I'm like a cool calm collected person and you

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All of us bro. I'd act with reason. I'm not a very like aggressive angry person reason like George
I'm a pacifist bro. I'm not gonna fight these people especially the lady that you're letting everyone know no no no
No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the lady that's been around for 12 years clearly has been
You know, she's part of the cleaners and she's still alive

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I've told you hey, don't beat the shit out of the demons. Don't fucking kill them. Don't spread evil
You think I'd fuck up a demon? No, no, no, this is what you would do
You would do it unintentionally you would have busted Pedro when you walked into the other was a guilt
Did you guys see this shit?
Fuck it whatever
Chocolate on your shirt right now. That'd be some fucking I already brought this up. All right, Nick

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Fuck and leave it be bro. That'd be some demon fucking juju shit. It's just a little skid mark
Alexis was sitting on my lap
Okay, no, it was Alexis is the stripper
No, but that scene in the house when he first gets over to his ex-wives
I start making well
I mean he's trying to get rid of the clothes right because he's touched the the fucking the vessel the fucking whale guy or whatever

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Brendon Fraser from the whale
And then he's taking off the clothes right because obviously if you already touched him whatever you don't want to spread it
Why why did he bring that into the house get put as naked in front of the house leave everything behind until I'm a
We're fucking leaving but no instead the dog touches the clothes
He gets possessed and then he just straight up mauls the little girl in front of him
He doesn't give a shit. He literally says fuck that not my kid. I'm going my children. I'm getting the fuck out of here

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That's priorities bro. That's you got me fucked up. What got me fucked up was that like they all knew what they were doing was wrong
The even the fuck in the cleaner lady was like hey you guys picked him up you guys knew he was possessed
You knew he was like this to form already. What the fuck are you guys dumbasses?

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And they knew what they were doing was wrong because they didn't want to do it originally but then the landlord
Ruiz
Was like you got to do it you got a family and I'm like yeah, dick, but this is not the protocol
We all know what Ruiz was a piece of shit
I'm glad he died immediately because he was just fucking a hothead in like an asshole. So
He had it coming but unfortunately his wife his wife though

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That's fucked up like he knows that she's having a child and
He decides to kill the goat anyway. I think you just despite this
I think you just a dick. That was a big skeptic about the whole situation, right?
You just thought it was like a plague thing is like, you know, we could just take care of it
We're gonna throw out in the field the it was right there
But that doesn't make sense because everybody knows it's demons everybody knows I think that's that was just the moment of weakness

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Kind of like that at the end to where Pedro knows
To you supposed to stay with with you was also a dick
He was like he was such a self-centered bastard like dude the government's after me. This is all bullshit. Yeah, they want my land
They took her jobs. They did
Exactly so this is what I'm thinking though is that it's it's gonna be us always assuming like yeah, bro

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Fuck Pedro fuck this right George is out here thinking I'm cool. I'm calm. I'm collected
That's until you watch your daughter get her face bit off or your stepdaughter or your bro
He did not give two shits about the stepdaughter getting involved. He literally said I'm grabbing my two kids
I'm getting out of the fuck that's fucking even the ex-wife. He said deuces

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He stopped running so fast. He was jogging. He's tired. He literally tells his son. Hey, where are your mom's keys?
We're fucking leaving these people. I feel like you gotta avoid it is and you just like talk like to his ex-wife
I'm like, hey, I saw this shit happen. I know it's real. You don't have to fucking believe me
I want to take my I think it would have been a much better conversation, right?
Then he fucking just like we gotta go we gotta go and you look like a goddamn crazy person

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You know what's crazy is knowing did you guys notice the moment where?
Is it hi it is that how you say his name the autistic son?
I
Think that's how it is when when he actually gets possessed. It's as soon as the his stepdad ran over his mom
Because he's he's looking out the window and then that moment he goes and he turns inside towards the car all of a sudden

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Yeah, like that was pretty cool because I thought I saw that and I caught it
But I was just I thought so too but nothing happened
He was just repeating words and stuff like that
He happened to be repeating the bad words don't get me wrong which also felt like hints
But I was also like he's playing an autistic kid, you know, he's supposed to be autistic
Yeah, it's a lot of things you heard exactly, you know
Yeah, but in the film it also explains that the demons do affect

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People differently like obviously with him. He has a feeling of physicalities
Well, I think also one of the things like the rules
I feel like it kind of broke its own rules, right?
Like when the mom was explaining the seven rules that they
She knew the rules as
Folklore not as like so she was singing them right and she was singing about the situation like it was very clear that

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She might know more about it than the sons, but it isn't because she believes in it isn't because she cares
It's just because she was probably brought up thinking about it
She's probably of that last generation that genuinely had like faith and churches and believing God
And then they did a really good job
And they probably did a really good job of extermating during her time. So it's just like

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We don't need I don't I think during her time is when showed up for the first time
So I think that's because like I said, I think her time was the transition where God died
And it was because of the fact that all of her people like her generation just
Believed in God because that was the thing you were supposed to do because there's plenty of those right?
It's like yeah, I go to church. I wear my crucifix. I don't believe in this shit

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We're not necessarily doing anything with it. I just I do it because I'm supposed to
So I think that's what it really is dark Nick
Let's say that's how well that's not how I feel one thing that I noticed as well as Pedro
Um, one of the rules is that the demons feed off the fear, right? Yes
And then the ex-wife literally when she shows up to the house when they've been driving for a whole fucking day, right?

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The the lady I forgot her name says hey the reason she was able to get here is because of your fear that you had
That she would come and get your children
Yeah, that's why the demon was able to do that and it's like the grandma that's explaining the lower everything that you like
You say she doesn't believe maybe that's one of the reasons why they made it so far and they're alive because they're like

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Oh, I don't fear it because I don't believe in it
But does is Jimmy possessed ever is his younger brother Jimmy ever possessed?
He might be I think that's like a big open
Cuz I feel like so like you know how we talked about how they separated, right?
You know Pedro went to go for his family Jimmy went for his mom, right?
So when Jimmy went for his mom
I felt like there was no outlet for him or his mom to be possessed in that moment because Jimmy had no fear

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He had skepticism he just believed his brother because he cares about his brother, right?
Then you have the moments afterwards where you know
Where his ex-wife shows up takes takes her son and then he's the one who finds her and he sees some atrocity
And he kills her, you know, I think we were all shocked seeing him come back and we're like wait
He's not dead. He didn't get fucked over

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He didn't get possessed next and like is it genuinely didn't show anything that was like concrete that he was the next one to
Fuck anything up, you know
Yeah, I'm not too sure. I feel like you kind of left it a little bit ambiguous, but they didn't need to
I feel like they could have followed up on that just a little bit. I might my yeah
Why was the reason he didn't get possessed?
My theory is that if you did have been possessed at that point

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But like because think of it this way, right? We don't see him again until after everything's failed, right?
And at that point you're seeing his son
Right and his son his son's normal until he's throwing up his his grandma
But if he didn't have anybody to throw up quote unquote
You know like I don't know but my thing is also remember when he had that car accident

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He was bleeding profusely from his head and then he's not yeah, he's not so it's also like yeah
Yeah
It kind of leaves you like if one of the rules is that the dead come back from well
It's not even if he comes back alive if he gets possessed. I'm pretty sure you just get healed
May something like that right with it, but the wife wasn't she was right
She was but the little daughter was but I think the wife got her face mulled up

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I think the wife was like left like that because it was more scared is trying to invoke that fear
You know the hard part too though is that you see him get how he reacts shocked when he finds out the truth about
I think her name is Maria her youngest son, right when when she finds out about how he's the reason why the cleaner didn't make it and why

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The and he's the one who probably ate his own mom as well and everything like that
That's we show up to Pedro and Jimmy's house
He he's like shocked. He's disgusted and then at the very end the last scene where you just see Pedro on the floor screaming
He's also looking like distraught. He doesn't look like happy. He's not smiling
He's not like yes like relishing it which I figured he would be I think once the demon was born

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All the people that were possessed kind of got released for the most
Well, look at the the kid the autistic kid
He went he went back to just not no longer being possessed
But same thing with some of the other like the other kid the eight
I don't think he wasn't possessing Martin
He was gonna be at the new seed for a new demon potentially or what I really

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When the at the beginning of the movie when the like the
Uriel like he was like fucking spooing up like puss that was kind of the same thing that came out of the
The fucking kid smell it was just puss
It was what I'm also seeing to people talking about the fact that
Well after he was doing that like he had a moment of pure like quick cognition

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Where he was throwing it up and then he just sighed at his his dad real quick
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was where it was like so people are saying that it was more about again
Fucking with him like torturing him putting fear into him, right?
And so he's like, yeah, no, you're good your son's good fuck psych true because the demon at the end
He doesn't even kill him
He just puts his imprint on his forehead and leaves the mark and then he's also like, you know what?

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It'd be hilarious to tell you with him your brother Jimmy is possessed
So is your son, but we're gonna let you live and let you you know fucking feel all the torch and everything all over
That would make sense
But also I mean like the kid in the beginning that ate his mother and fed it to the pigs
He looked fine after too, so it's like all right. Did they stop possessing him also?
It's also about fucking with with Jimmy though like if he wasn't converted now now he is because he's like, oh, yeah

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I did exactly what the you know
What would what happened to my parents is gonna happen to your parents, dude
Then that's some real fucking evil shit. That's the case because it's like hey
I don't need to kill everyone you love but the people that are around we're still gonna torture you for the rest of your life
So it's like damn you want to get into some of the evil shit that we saw
Well, what's the most horrendous scene in this film? Oh popcorn bucket son was pretty crazy that shit fucking nuts dude

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Yeah, did you get the exclusive?
Christ's drop that they did for the film. It was a little kid in AMC theater. Yeah, and see he was really good collectible
Yeah, that was that was insane seeing that mom just eating that kid that child's brain is just like like you said like popcorn that was
Disturbing I don't think I expected that I know also like I think she waited

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Until she knew she was being followed by Jimmy to actually start doing that because it's like she carried him out and was like
Not doing anything to him the entire time and then finally like oh, he's behind me
Let me just start munching on his fucking brains like a mania. I'm pretty sure he was already possessed
The little the little boy. Yeah, I think he was already possessed by the time they got to the other house

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No, no, no, I think when she jumped out the window Jimmy. I'm talking about the little boy
No, the little boy wasn't the one who got possessed first
It was I think you know the popcorn bucket. Yeah, like why he was able to play into holding into the mom and shit
Like if you saw your mom
There's no way that the kid didn't see the fucking mom's mangled face and like do I think he was asleep
I think she picked him up asleep and then he woke up in her arms

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But I know but also like according to them there was they had it like a very awful
And it's possible that the transition happened as it went into her arms that is possible
But I don't think he was ever possessed until that moment occurred
I think that was the moment of possession potentially
Yeah, and I don't think but I don't think they she even bothered possessing him because I think she was gonna use that child as

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Like a means to torture Pedro even more. She was like, I don't need to possess this one this one
I just eat. Oh my god
one of the creepiest scenes too was when the little girl and
She had already been possessed and she came back and then she's in her mother's arms the ex-wife
And then she's like oh
Papa

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Fucking gets rammed by her fucking husband
That was that was like the worst thing you've ever said in your life. What do you mean?
That's literally with the little girl English speaking. I can't even repeat George for being that insane
Like bro, I don't remember exactly what she said, but it sounded like something very childish
It wasn't like you know, Spanish was good, but the words that came out of your mouth George. Oh my god

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Hard yeah nightmare didn't make a sentence brother motherfucker
No, no George your Spanish was fine. Well, you said was fine. Yeah, I don't think repeat that
I don't think that like I need to bleep that out. I got I got to go to my pretend church
Pretend church is playing Pokemon go at your house. I got a Pokemon go to the polls

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No, but that's he was like creepy shit
And then also like I mean obviously the dog scene mauling the little girl's face was insane and Nick called it like like like a
Second I did not see it coming at all. I don't know how Nick was just like oh shit
I have a sixth sense for for shit like that. What's crazy. There's no suspense in this movie zero suspense
That's just pure horror. No shit is pure horror

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Nothing is leading up, you know to anything. It's just it just happens. Yeah, it's just straight-ass evil this whole fucking movie
It's like hey, you want to hear about the most obscene horrendous things that humans could come up with this is probably up there
Like it's it's done really well
Yeah, I've been seeing a lot of kids get killed in a and horror films lately though
I saw terrified 3M Alexis loving that that's making it come back. I think he hates children

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No, no, I think it's uh, it's kind of disturbing me because I'm not used to it
And so like in terrified three spoiler alert for anybody who hasn't seen it, but wait wait, we haven't seen it
Well, there it's okay. There's a scene where like
These they basically do a fucking terrorist attack in a fucking shopping mall like all these kids get blown up with bombs
The terrifier does it? Yeah. Yeah, he does. Is he what is he dressed as just Santa Claus? Oh my god

(37:44):
Yes, it's fucked so like to me like seeing children get hurt kind of does bother me
But obviously it has a pretty good effect on this film and at least there's like a reasoning behind it
The other one's like it's just a fucking bomb. Yeah. Yeah, that was just like we're just gonna be fucked up
Yeah, there's very few scenes in this movie that I felt are just shock factor scene like that's the thing like a terrifying movie

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Yeah, almost all of it is meant to be just how do we shock and like disturb you?
This movie is like every every shocking and disturbing scene for the most part has a purpose
Like has meaning like honestly my opinion the most shocking scene is watching him actually like slap the girl
Like I'm sure he didn't actually slap her. Yeah, that was mean, but I was just like oh shit

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Like I forget that you know what I mean like we grew up in like Latin American households and stuff
But you forget in movies. They never show child abuse like that. They talk about it
Whoa, is it considered child abuse if it's a demon?
I think this one they kind of get away with it because it's like in we're watching on screen
Obviously, it's a child getting hit but obviously in the context. It's like alright. Well, it's a demon
So it's kind of like it's fine, but the moon. It's still really crazy to see like Alexa said it's like what the fuck like I

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Mean I don't think I've ever seen it in any other movie actually
I think about it. Alright, you know what I'd like to listen to what some of these letterbox
Jump into it. Alright. Alright, this is by cat Callum three and a half stars
They say this was bleak very unique blend of the virus last
Possession troops and with some really shocking kills

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No one was safe and this one and neither was I because this was I wouldn't say this is a scary movie
But it's a disturbing film. It's very yet. It leaves you with some lingering thoughts, which is good
You know, you don't you don't want you don't dry like the horror isn't over when this movie ends
The horror is over when I stop thinking about the evil lurks
It's one of the reasons I this is one of like my higher rated horror movies because it does like make you think about right

(39:40):
He's pregnant like a three out of ten watch. No, honestly three and a half is pretty low for that review
It's not like he's like seven out of ten, you know, that's pretty. Oh wait, oh wait, so the five yeah, yeah, all right
Excellent excellent by rye underscore Hudson four stars
They say fantastic and insane in the best way if you like horror movies
Maybe the most disturbing movie since hereditary. I don't know about that. I don't agree

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I didn't like hereditary that much
I feel like everyone like hypes it up so much and it was like it was decent
But I feel like this was more
Really this role in like other her and I mean it this left me with like a void like I feel like
gross
Cuz I feel like again for me like a

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Lot of the shit that we saw here
It was it didn't like hereditary and I feel like a lot of those movies will literally just have a zoom in as
Tight as possible on the frame of just the most important fucking thing you can look at this one
Like even like again the the fucked up scene of her holding her child. It was still very much like like zoomed out
You could see the car you could see her like it was meant to show like this is fucking crazy

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But it wasn't just being like hey here look at this and like look at it for five ten seconds without anything else
But just you're forced to see it
You know what I mean like that's what movies like hereditary and like mid-summer did too
Yeah, like they just fucking showed it to shock you and I think I think you know like hereditary and it's like those
Those just feel a bit more real this one felt a little bit goofy when you know

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You saw like the devices that they used for the demons
Yeah, some of the facts are a little goofy too, but I mean, you know, I I want to give this movie full credit
They did an incredible job with whatever they had but I'm sure being a foreign film and the foreign film from like Latin America
You know, I don't think they get to jump into this genre and dominate the way this movie did you know what I mean?
Yeah, I'm surprised this movie hasn't been as popular as terrified dude

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I honestly heard really good reviews from people that watched it, but nobody watched it
That's the thing like Alexis I told him about it and he was like what film like I don't even think you had heard about it
No, and I had on my watch list since you you told me about it
So the budget was actually under 3.1 mil. That's really good
Yeah, they did a co-production with Argentina and

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United States
That's that's honestly really good for a budget this without lova. I'm sorry a movie for that little but only made I think 1.7
I saw the what the box?
It's probably doing well on like, you know, did you don't know that but
I mean you get streaming rights and all that

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Well, also for them to get a consider that they don't get like the box office straw in the US as much so they
Focus more on the but that's what I'm saying like this movie was such like critically acclaimed
Right, and I would if I'm like suggesting a horror over this or what we watched last week, which is terrified
I would like hey, you're gonna watch something. That's actually good. Right. It'd be this movie. Yeah, great

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No, I was like terrified in the third one and like quadrupling its money every fucking time, right?
Right, I think it's just it has a cult status where this one doesn't you know
That one has a character that you can like kind of cheer for in a way even though they're like totally fucked up
But this one is just like this one makes you feel like shit. You know what I mean? Yeah, that one has a mascot

(43:02):
Yeah, I mean it's just like another Freddy Krueger, you know, but this one's a bit more like deeper
Obviously, it's a lot deeper, but you know, I'll disagree. It's just it's the most disturbing movie since the redditary
But I think it is like in that kind of space of you know disturbing horror. Lex, why do you find this disturbing?
That's kind of like mine. I always kind of wonder this because you said like I haven't watched enough horror movies to like to go into

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But now that I think yeah, why do you think this movie is disturbing?
I think just kind of like the implications that you know people have essentially given up on faith that that's that's one part where
You know that as a society
They've they've just reduced themselves to just you know, we're just we just we just believe what what's what's real

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You know what I mean? And and I think people need a little bit of faith in order to have hope
Even even as logical as I try to be but I think that's a really important part of being a human being
There's that I think I think just the fact that children are getting killed
You know, that's that's another thing and just at the end at the end of the day
It's like very hopeless film like they they fail everyone suffers evil wins, you know, like that's not

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That's not great, you know what I mean? And and it's also like a very widespread issue
Like like this is this is like a global issue
Versus other horror films are more like tighter, you know a little bit more personal so I can like kind of separate myself from that
But this one just feels a little bit. Yeah
It's so sadistic like to think that a demon possesses the ability like alright

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It's either you go against your common, you know, will like you're you know what seems to be the right decision and
Then that's the only way you're gonna save yourself by like hey
I know you want to kill this person because of you you want you have a vendetta
It's like, you know, you want to save your children. They've already taken so much from you
But that's not the right way to do it

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You can't fight evil with evil because that powers the demon and it's just like exactly fuck
It's so tormented and fucked up that he couldn't beat it and then like Alexis is nobody wins
It reminds me of the mist at the end of the mess where it's like just talking about that with my girlfriend
Yeah, it's literally it ends and he's like he gives up and he's like, you know what?

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I mean spoiler for the mess, but it's like he literally chooses to kill himself and all his
My killing his family he wants to kill himself
But he ran set of bullets and then the military comes and save everyone. That's fucking insane. Yeah, great fucking any
Fantastic. All right, this one next reviews by I believe it's Guara

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You have it three and a half stars. I want Nick to read this one
Go ahead
Un ejemplo de película que todo se hubiera
Resulto que todo se hubiera resultos y los hombres les hicieron caso a las mujeres Wow, you know
Dude, I literally said that earlier bro. It's all because of the men's decisions

(45:56):
The women died. Yeah, so they should have just fucking listened to their listen to your girl
Listen to the women, you know, let's be a harmonious here, you know 50 50 thoughts
Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's tough because like I said, I kind of talked about that earlier like
There's times where I agreed with that, but there's times where I didn't like
You know Isaac you kept screaming throughout the scenes was like why can't you just fucking explain better to your wife and her

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And her husband, you know, like why can't you know what? I'm gonna say I'm that dick too that sometimes doesn't explain things
Yeah, we all are yeah, but like I feel like when it's this is something this important, right?
You know, I think it was it was definitely as machismo of like I'm tell I'm giving you an order
You know what I mean? I'm like so just do it and like it was very like yeah, like don't question
I know what's right. Yeah, the audacity for him to feel that

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I think it's one of those things you're just like if you're down with me you're gonna come with me
You're not gonna ask questions. You're not gonna ask questions until we're on the right. You're like, hey, ain't nobody got time for that
There's demons lurking like he was coming like let's go
I think that's a funny one is I think he made that assumption that they would be down for him and like they're like
Oh, yeah, you know, I haven't seen you in four years
Exactly, I just I just remembered the scene where she calls him and then she's just saying the most fucking

(47:10):
Atrocious things you like fuck yo bitch your side bitch
And then the implication that she fucked his brother isn't yeah when she when she's like the demon and
Obviously like the demon knows that like I mean probably none of that should actually happen
But he knows that that would get under his skin. That's literally
No, I think you think that's what she did it must have I think she I think fucking his brother

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It was I don't I don't know about fucking everyone else and being a whore like around the town
Like she was saying she was you never know me
That's a revengeable ladies potentially but what I'm saying is I like that one didn't feel like it that one felt like it could
Be like a lie, but the brother part
It's like she had no reason to say that to hurt him quote-unquote like or besides to hurt him
So it had to be real that she's like I knew you loved me or you care. No, you told me that you love me

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Yeah, so I mean yeah, I mean, I don't know George you want to
Close this out here. Well, we never even said our fucking opinions. Yeah
No, let's uh well, let's talk about ratings and then like you know, let's do a little bit something different
Whether you would recommend this recommend something else and then you know what we were was on again. It was on hulu, right?
Yeah, it was on hulu. Yeah, well, I'll start. I really enjoyed this film. I'm glad we chose it

(48:19):
Honestly, we don't watch enough Spanish films. So this is a really good example for a bunch of Latinos man. I know
We're all Latinos here, but
Yeah, there is there's a few good ones, but it's like saying there
That's exactly what I was gonna say. I haven't seen that one
I'm more is a perros. Is that one more perros? Yeah, that one's

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Alfonso Cuaron. Oh dude, what's the one with the
No, I'm glad we finally did also we found a movie that we all kind of collectively enjoyed and I feel like that's very uncommon
Especially when it's a genre that Gator hates. So

(49:02):
Overall fantastic. I would recommend it to people who like horror. They like, you know, something that's a little bit different
Give me a score. Give me a score
I think it's a 7.5. I thought it was solid
Beautiful. All right, Nick, what'd you think? I like this movie a lot too. I think I think this is a solid 8 for me
I feel like as far as horror movies, I like that the differences like no jump scares was a big thing for me

(49:25):
I I don't mind jump scares. I just think they're cheesy. I think they're easy, you know, like and I think this movie delivered on a lot of
different fronts, so it's an 8
Damn, you know, I'm a Georgia man. I give this movie 7.5. It was it was different enough and it was
Not scary, but I think it was disturbing and it's definitely a horror film that I'll I'll be thinking about, you know, I

(49:47):
Give it a 5 see I knew
Gator and you know what I feel like you're only giving it a 5 because you're trying to stick to that like I hate horror
I feel like you liked it a little bro. I feel like you enjoyed it
You let me fucking talk before you know in my mouth five five is a bad
Waiting though. No, I go ahead. I so I lose the two points because it's a horror film, right?
That's literally that's literally what I'm saying

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Because it was I think I had a lot of good points. I think it was a good movie had a good pacing
I think for me what like fucked it up a lot was that they didn't have any background lore
Like they didn't give any like much reasoning a lot of like the exposition
Wasn't really there. I just started with the action and then they got like oh, this is why it's happening
That's why so for me. I kind of wanted a little bit more background information or even like you know, what would have been cool

(50:32):
Like you know, I'm lucky man
They had like a 20 minute fucking movie about the fucking God or whatever the monkey God if they would have like a five minute
Like oh, this is what's happening at this time and why it's happening like a little like part like that
I think well, I mean think I'll give you that the exposition was a little bit slow
But I think as the movie developed eventually you're picking up on these little key points that are being dropped off at a good pace

(50:55):
I think it took way too long to get to that because by by the end I still had so many questions
But also that goes back to what Alexis was saying. This is based on folklore when it comes to folklore
You don't always necessarily know all the little details, but it's more like you know that it's something that people talk about
Exactly their stories that you tell your children and you're like your owner and then you're like where she drowned her kids

(51:15):
Why did she drown their kids?
Why she's looking for other kids to take or how did it come to be and then you don't really know the whole back story to it
But you know that it's happening and that's what I feel like the characters felt they felt like they got dropped into this world
They don't really know how it all works, but they're trying to figure it out along the way with us as an audience
Well, but no the thing is that we and we talked about now
We're kind of going back on what we said because we clearly said as the movie about everybody knew what the fuck was going on

(51:39):
They just didn't want to do it. So that what you're saying right now
We're not necessarily because there was like alright
They didn't even explain how the machine worked to kill the people or the cleaners
They just need but the fucking shit was already set up all this dignity to do would just pull them out a little bit more
And it would have been dendil
Yeah, I'm sorry Nick. What were you gonna say in that moment?
but I think the thing is like

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Like there's a lot of horror movies where all they do is explain how it's supposed to do it
And then it's just frustrating because that's the that's the part right is I'm gonna tell you exactly what my evil plan is what I'm trying to do
Who I am what caused me to become this whatever the fucking thing is and then somehow either you stop me because of course
I gave it all to you or you don't stop me which just makes you an idiot

(52:20):
She makes you a flick like don't even around Pedro was stupid. The Pedro was human like he had human flaws
Which was he didn't have the strong enough will to support himself against this like evil, okay?
But okay, so I think what it made this movie better for me is going back
We're saying this movies like based on folklore and I get I think it would have been a little bit more eerie

(52:41):
Right is like right before the movie started
They gave an example of the folklore and then they gave like the seven rules
If they would start off the movie like that and then gone forward and and got him
Instead of giving instead of like at the middle like the movie like the grandma explains it and then fucks it up for everybody
See what I think that nobody makes a mistake where it actually is like you like this is why I disagree because like you say monkey man

(53:03):
And I think at monkey man. You're absolutely right that movie needs it
Why because one that movie is an action movie it requires like if you have an
Unexplained story or unexplained lore as part of like an action or adventure movie
You've now failed to like immerse your audience in that world
But with horror it's actually the opposite if you leave things kind of like skeptical and like like for people to not

(53:29):
Understand what's going on you first of all you're gonna talk about it more because you're like trying to figure out what the fuck happened
But second of all you're gonna be like what was the resolution? Did they live? Did they die?
I'll go safe, but I'll give you an example where that's kind of a false because the reason we love John the first John Wittman
There's barely buddy. You can't compare
That's a different movie because it's a classic revenge plot and you got to know why the

(53:50):
Character is seeking revenge and you got a correlate with it like oh shit
This person deserves to get his Vandetta because of that exposition
This is differently because there's so many other films that fall victim to the exposition becoming the entire film
I'll give you a perfect example zombie land the entire fucking premise of zombie land is how to survive zombies and it gives you all
The rules that you got to live by in order to make it through but that's all the movies based off like the plot and everything

(54:15):
I don't really care for it. It fucking sucks
So the movie is literally all exposition
Whereas in this it becomes a little bit different same thing with like other
Hard movies that are within this genre like like la Yorona the nun all it is about is the lore and
It sucks because there's no other substance to it this
I feel like it has enough lore and enough exposition that it works well and it develops to something

(54:39):
That's a little bit different and it just
It's not doing the classic tropes and I think that that's what makes it unique and different and you know good points
Yeah, I don't see
Don't don't rip them up as we're trying to say good job
All right, but I just want more I want more this passion George but you know add to what George is saying too because that is

(55:04):
That is like your examples right there Isaac, right?
Yeah different types of horror movies and I think what really classifies those is those are movies that are allowed to take place
Over large amounts of settings or where the people who are fighting or against the entity have to be professionals, right?
So like George is mentioning with the nun or if you think about movies like the exorcist or Annabelle where these are experts

(55:26):
If I don't explain to you the lore I don't you don't give credibility to those people who are actually supposed to be really fucking good
Or the only ones capable of fighting against this entity. This is the opposite of that movie where it's regular people
So they have to be clueless. They have to not know well enough. Okay
one last thing I

(55:47):
Or you whether they get it done better instead of like like the grandma just listing off of like in all the
All the rules I think it also would have been nice if they went until like the actual folklore story that you talked about like
It would have been cruel as like you know how she started singing the song
But imagine she's saying the song completely with the whole story like you know
Isaac just wants everything I mean it could be nice

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But I feel like sometimes when they just let they lay it flat out for you
It's boring like it's really boring to watch especially when they're like hey, I'm gonna it's like a you know a voiceover
Or somebody's showing the whole thing happen and how it you know became I'm just like
Laying it all out there. I just want like a little bit more detail
That's how I'm a lore fanatic and like the reasons I like Star Wars. I like fucking Lord of the Rings

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I like war hammer. I like all of this stuff is because there's thousands and thousands of pages of lore that explains shit
That is fucking stupid. Am I always gonna have questions? Yes, but I would just like all I'm asking for this fucking movie George
Well, look once we get the blu-ray because Alexa's gonna get it. Hopefully there's a director's cut
Hopefully

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If it was a before trilogy, you know, which I'm still waiting to get
You're not gonna finish just give it back get off my ass. You don't even need this movie. I do I want to see it
All right, so anyway Gator you ruined our average here
But even though you enjoyed it which is wild the average that we give it as a whole is a solid seven
I think which is still pretty good for a horror films, but you know the average

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Letter box gave it. Yeah, that's about you know, yeah, they get a 3.5. So so we're about the same
But I think we can all agree that this is a very
unique horror film and I think it's left you with some lingering thoughts and
Some disturbing imagery that you probably won't be able to forget
But it's definitely recommendable and I think it's it's up there. You know, I haven't seen a

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You know a Spanish
Language horror film like this is great. You know, he also directed terrified which seems like other people really enjoyed
So maybe not terrifying. You're gonna find also the court is it DaVinci code? Would that be considered a scary movie? No
No, that's like
I don't think anyone does but alright a kid. I well, I think that's our time guys. It was a

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