April 10, 2025 • 52 mins
Democratic Representative Al Green stood up during Trump's congressional address and declared "no mandate" when Trump claimed a mandate to cut Medicaid. For this truth-telling, Green was escorted out and later censured—with even ten Democrats joining the rebuke. This incident exposes a disturbing double standard: when Joe Wilson shouted "You lie!" at Obama, or when Marjorie Taylor Greene repeatedly interrupted Biden's addresses, they faced no similar consequences.
The contrast between Al Green and Marjorie Taylor Greene provides a stark illustration of this double standard. Al Green has dedicated his career to expanding social programs and advocating for stronger banking regulations, while Marjorie Taylor Greene has promoted conspiracy theories ranging from QAnon to anti-Semitic white supremacist views. Yet it was Al Green who faced formal censure.
This episode digs deeper into what this moment reveals about America's current political crisis. The hosts explore how the geographic and demographic differences between their districts reflect America's deepening divides, and how language around taxes and fairness is manipulated to serve power. When the ultra-wealthy complain about paying taxes while hiding assets offshore and fighting social programs, we see the real battle isn't just partisan—it's between the haves and have-nots.
What makes this moment particularly critical is how quickly decades of progress toward equity and inclusion are being dismantled. Drawing from "Man of La Mancha," the hosts call for Americans to "march into hell for a heavenly cause" and stop being moderate in the face of injustice. The question isn't whether we should speak up, but what line must be crossed before we will?
Thanks for listening. Please check out our website at www.forsauk.com to hear great conversations on topics that need to be talked about. In these times of intense polarization we all need to find time to expand our Frame of Reference.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And it's on you.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Let's have it.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Well, hello, hello everybody.
You know we're coming into thispodcast.
I'm Raul LaBrush, by the way,in case you didn't know everyone
.
But that's who I am.
Like, raul LaBrush, as in fresh, and my good friend, my brother
, in this whole process I keepforgetting your name.
Who are you again?
Ed Warhol the senior?
(00:27):
Oh, that's right.
Why is it so hard for me toremember that name?
I guess I'm just a dummy.
Anyways, so we just got done.
I mean, not only did we'retalking, and then we were having
technical difficulties, andthen Antoine and I talking more
about other stuff that we talkabout.
His wife has just published abook.
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a copy of it, so that you know,I was just so excited to get a
hold of it.
Give it to my wife and daughter, because it's a devotional book
for women, written by a womanthat has learned devotion the
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And then Ramona got on thephone.
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We hardly ever get to talk.
Ramona and I have said like hiand passing a couple of times,
but she and I got to talking andwell, here we are, an hour
later.
You know, it's just so.
It's been an interestingmorning, folks.
It has from my perspective.
I'm not my side of the table.
How about you, antoine?
How are you feeling about thismorning so far?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, I think when things happen, I always say
things happen for a reason, man,so the time was ordained, you
know what I mean.
And just the conversations needto be had.
There needed to be a break andI have had to.
You know, just say thank you,man, greatly for uh purchasing
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uh, thank you, man.
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I know it's going to benefitthem greatly.
And again, like my wife wassaying, uh offline, you know how
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experienced in this life, and soit's going to touch the lives
of women everywhere.
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It's called revival devotionaljournal and of course, you know
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We believe it's an anointingjournal and whether a woman is a
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Speaker 1 (02:34):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Again, just thank you for your support and your
family's support with thepurpose of the book and just the
plugs you've been giving man,Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
My pleasure.
You know these are tough timesbeen giving man.
Thank you, my pleasure.
These are tough times in somany ways, I think all of us,
all of us, you know, and Ishouldn't say it's always tough
times, but particularly now itjust seems like it's so much
more like hello.
But you know, life is hard.
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There's no way, shape or formabout it.
And so some people are blessedto have all kinds of you know
wonderful things in their livesand have the money to be able to
afford all kinds of things, andmaybe it doesn't seem as hard
for them.
I beg to differ just becauseyou know so many people that are
rich and have everything theywant are still really, really
unhappy people, you know.
(03:24):
So you look at that and think,okay, so where's the secret?
And well, you know, the secretis really obvious, right?
It's in this card called JesusChrist, you know.
So if you don't take that cardout of the stack and say you
know, this is the one I want toplay in, whatever game we're in,
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I want to play this card You'regoing to struggle more than you
need to, and even with when youplay that card.
You know, in some ways I justtalk, I have thought, you know,
when they do like the evangelism, tent meetings or whatnot, and
they call people to Jesus andsay, come up the front of the
stage here and let's make adedication to Jesus, and that's
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all fine and good, I mean, yousee people just break down and
really have a moment oftransformation.
But what I don't hear as oftenas I think I should is and
understand, now you have atarget on your back.
You know, it's just you've nowentered into the realm of total
spiritual warfare and it is notgoing to be.
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You don't become a Christian tohave everything be, you know,
hunky-dory, rosy for the rest ofyour life.
That's just not how it works.
So, but what you do get is asense of not only eternal
salvation, but you also get asense that, as hard as it gets,
you've got somebody to go tothat will always be there for
you, never ever going to say Idon't have time for you right
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now, and that's what a lot ofpeople are lacking, right that
you have all the money in theworld but you don't have
somebody you can just go to thatknows you, that will accept you
as who you are, that willwhatever.
Anyway, so that's been anythingthat I've been blessed or that
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I have blessed you with.
I have been blessed 14 timesover with you guys as well.
So it goes two ways, man, itgoes two ways, absolutely.
So anyways, today, what we'regoing to talk about?
What was my idea?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Do you remember?
Well, we just wanted to touchbase, man, on the censorship of
Representative Al Green and justthe contradicting, whole
contradicting nature of it.
And you know it's just a verydisturbing.
You know, of course, we know,when we say what, no course of,
what censorship is no, just,basically, is a rebuke, a
(05:55):
written rebuke against thatparticular person.
But also it's just howcontradictory it is.
You know, when we talk aboutyou know, oh, we've reviewed him
because he interrupted thepresident's speech.
You know, when we talk aboutyou know, oh, well, we rebuke
him because he interrupted thepresident's speech.
You know, you know we've seenthis before with no consequence
to others.
You know, of course, going backto Obama's speech when he was
talking about, you know, theAffordable Care Act, right,
(06:18):
representative Joe Wilson, he,obama, president Obama was
saying, hey, under thisAffordable Care Act, no illegal
immigrant will be covered bythis insurance.
And, representative Joe Wilson,he shouts out you lie.
(06:38):
And then, of course, but at thetime, the, the Speaker of the
House, or the, the Speaker ofthe House was Nancy Pelosi, and
she said nothing.
And then, of course, we see,when President Joe Biden was
giving a speech, marjorie TaylorGreene, jess Herr and Lauren
Bogert they interrupted him somany times and the Speaker at
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the time was Kevin McCarthy.
He said nothing.
But here we are, you know, ofcourse, a representative out
green speaking up against a liethat was being told on national
television from the mostpowerful person in the world.
He said all he said was nomandate, no mandate.
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And yet, you know, they calledthe sergeant at arms on him to
have him removed.
It was just kind of insane.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, there's a.
I thought it was interesting to.
I started doing some researchbecause I you know I do not
spend a lot of time doingpolitical research, but when I
start doing it I just pick upright away on a lot of the
nuances of the people involvedin the whole thing.
So because I felt the same way,you know that all of a sudden
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he gets escorted out foractually saying something
truthful.
I mean, he was Trump, wastalking about having a mandate
from the people.
And Al Green stood up, pointedhis cane up and said you do not
have a mandate to take awayMedicaid.
And you know making he wasn'tjust saying you're a liar, he's
saying you don't have a mandateto take away Medicaid, trying to
get that subject, that wholeplan, to the forefront and get
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people to understand On nationaltelevision.
Right, this is an opportunityto confront one of these lies
and get people to understand onnational television.
Right, this is an opportunityto confront one of these lies
and get people to think aboutthe consequences of what's going
on here.
And he gets escorted out for it.
So then I started looking at thepeople in this whole thing.
So, because we're looking attwo different sides of green.
(08:41):
You know two different shadesof green.
Right here you got Al Green andyou got Marjorie Taylor Green,
who actually smells it with anextra E.
Just, I think there was a threefor one sale or something or
three for two sale.
The day she was born they addedanother E in for free.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I jokingly say that Marjorie Taylor Green hates the
fact that she's part black.
Look at her hair, look at herfacial structures.
I believe she's part black.
Look at her hair, look at herfacial structures.
I believe she has black blood.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You never know right.
Wouldn't that be the incredibleirony for her?
So you look at Al Green andthis is Wikipedia.
If you've got a problem withWikipedia, I've got to ask you
have you gone to DunderheadUniversity?
Have you gone to DunderheadUniversity?
Because Wikipedia is by far themost unbiased, patrolled for
(09:33):
veracity information sources outthere.
So if you doubt that, do someresearch on Wikipedia by people
outside.
It is contributed to by so manydifferent people and edited by
so many different people that itis as close to reality as we
can get on factual matters, likepeople.
Okay, so here's Alexander N AlGreen, born September 1st 1947,
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member of the Democratic Party.
He served as a Justice of thePeace in Harris County, Texas,
from 1977 to 2004.
Throughout his tenure, Greenhas focused on issues such as
abortion rights in the UnitedStates and expanding social
programs in the United States.
And Green is a member of theUnited States House Committee on
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Financial Services, where he'sadvocated for stronger banking
regulations.
There's a key stronger bankingregulations and corporate
accountability.
Now, if you don't think thosetwo things have put some targets
on his back, you are sorelymistaken, because that is
something you do not do.
You don't want to make thebankers ticked off, and you sure
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as heck don't want to tick offthe corporations, because they
will come after you with bigsticks.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
So, of course, those are the very things that they're
lifting all these regulationson right now, Exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
So then let's look at the other green.
Okay, marjorie Taylor Greene,sometimes referred to by her
initials MTG, is an Americanfar-right politician,
businesswoman and conspiracytheorist who has been a US
representative for the Georgia's14th congressional district
since 2021.
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Greene has promotedanti-Semitic and white
supremacist views, including thewhite genocide conspiracy
theory, qanon Pizzagate.
She has amplified conspiracytheories that allege the
government involvement in massshootings in the United States,
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implicate the Clinton family inmurder and suggest the attacks
were a hoax.
Before running for Congress,greene supported calls to
execute prominent DemocraticParty politicians, including
Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
As a congresswoman, she equatedthe Democratic Party with Nazis
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and compared COVID-19 safetymeasures to the persecution of
Jews during the Holocaust, laterapologizing for this comparison
.
During the Russian invasion ofUkraine, greene promoted Russian
propaganda and praised VladimirPutin, and she identifies as a
Christian nationalist.
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So there you have the twoGreene's in terms of you know
who they are.
Because we are what we do, youknow whether or not you can say
you know I am a kumquat.
But if you do not do any of thethings that a kumquat does, nor
do you look like a kumquat, norcan you be served with other
vegetables as a kumquat.
You are not a kumquat.
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So these folks have more thandemonstrated who they are by
what they have done and whatthey've said, and who they align
with.
Now let's look a step further,folks.
This is our Wikipedia hour here.
The areas that they representedokay, marjorie Taylor Green
we'll stay with her to get thecomparison easily.
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She represents the Georgia's14th Congressional District.
Okay, located in NorthwestGeorgia, it was created
following the 2010 Republican,while conservative Democrats
held most local offices andstate legislative seats in what
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is now the 14th, well into the1990s.
Today, there are almost noelected Democrats above the
county level.
The Democrats have onlynominated a candidate in four of
the six elections since thedistrict was created and with
their best result being SeanHarris is 36% in the 2024
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election.
It includes.
There was one other thing Iwanted to do.
Well, I'll suffice that so youget an idea.
It's rural, very, you know,conservative, like you can look
at the the thing.
It looks like a big monster ora Pac-Man in terms of the way
that the lines are drawn on it.
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So eating up all kinds of, youknow, radical liberals, I'm sure
, as it plugs along Texas' ninthdistrict, which is where Al
Green is from.
It includes the southwestportion of the greater Houston
area in Texas and from 1967 to2005, the 9th covered an area
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stretching from Galvestonthrough Houston to Beaumont.
Much of that area is now asecond district.
Most of the area now in the 9thwas the 25th district from 1983
to 2005.
So that's been a morphing areatoo right, but big difference
big urban area versus a bigrural area.
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So therein, I guess I don't knowthat there's statistical
correlation here but it's aninteresting fact that you have
two different, very differentkinds of representations of
people in America right now andideologies in America, things
that those people accept astruth versus baloney.
And their representative is infact somebody that represents, I
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would say people can argue withme if they want, but I would
say that they represent peoplethat are very much of the same
kind of ilk as who they are inCongress.
So the question becomes who isplaying by which set of rules
and who is not?
Because Marjorie Taylor Greeneand Lauren Burbitt during Joe
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Biden's inauguration or State ofthe Union address was if you go
back and play it because it'sstill out there to listen to
they were far more I'm going tosay it far more disruptive than
Al Green was.
They were also disruptive in away that was just hateful,
spiteful.
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I'm going to get in your faceand you are.
I have no respect for youwhatsoever Just in a you know,
spewing out nonsense, spewingout lies and acting like you
know.
If you saw them during thatspeech, they were like high
school kids sitting in theauditorium while the principal
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tries to talk about what's goingon in you know school for the
next semester, whatever.
All they were missing wassmoking doobies and chewing gum
and throwing paper airplanes atpeople.
It was that level of behavior.
Al Green, in juxtaposition tothat, stands up and makes a
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statement that is hardcorereality.
Stands up and makes a statementthat is hardcore reality,
hardcore.
You know.
This is what's happening andchallenging lawmakers and the
president himself to stop lyingand talk about what your real
agenda is.
So I think, honestly, thebiggest problem with that is
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that Democrats said nothing tosupport him.
Democrats sat there after he gotescorted and didn't do anything
.
In fact, 10 of them voted tocensure him, along with the
Republicans after this wholething, to say naughty, al
naughty.
They censured him, which isessentially, you know, just
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being saying you were bad andwe're gonna make sure you get a
mark in your folder.
I don't remember MarjorieTaylor Greene getting censured.
There was a point where she gotthrown off a bunch of
committees for her conspiracytheories, which was made sense
because she was just wacko aboutthat stuff, and still is, but
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it just it's so.
It's just so indicative of thedouble standard in our country
and so indicative of the factthat white, moderate America
continues to just sit back andgo.
Well, you know he did misbehave, instead of going no, you know,
yes, he misbehaved.
He himself said I will take theconsequences for my actions.
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Gleefully, almost right, Iunderstand that, but he was
fighting for something right.
He was fighting for somethingtruthful versus the people.
That lie and lie and lie and lieand lie, and lie and lie, and
we just said, oh well, you knowthere's some truth to what
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they're saying, and line up withthem.
I mean, just get back in line,buddy.
Hail Trump, hail Trump.
Get back in line.
I just don't get it.
Where is the backbone?
I'm calling on us white people,folks, we're going to have to
put it on the line.
You know it's time for us tostop being moderate and laying
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around going.
You know that's so bad.
You know he was really beingnaughty, though.
Stop doing that bullshit andsaying no, he was saying the
truth and he got crucified forit.
You know he got escorted out ofthe chamber like some naughty
boy that you know needs to bepunished now and he ought to
spend some time in detention forspeaking the truth.
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Really, that's what America'sstanding for right now, and you
know where are we in thisequation?
Oh well, you know he is a blackman.
What?
What is the rationale?
Because Martin Luther King saidit himself in the 1960s, shortly
before he's killed.
He said he's begun to realizethat not only is there still a
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lot of work, but the thing thathe was most concerned about was
white, moderate America, becausehe ultimately wasn't sure that
we had the backbone, the cojones, to stand up and do what's
right and say bone the cojonesto stand up and do what's right
and say this is not who we are.
We are going to be these people.
We are holding these truths tobe self-evident and we're
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willing to put whatever we needto down on the line to say no
more, no more.
And you know, I don't know whatto tell you folks, given the
way things are going, a lot ofus might have to die.
You know, we might have to takethat full measure of devotion.
I don't know what to tell you.
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So maybe that's what we're soconcerned about.
Oh, I don't want to lose myToyota.
I can't.
What would I do without myToyota?
Or, you know, I can't, I can't,I don't, I don't want people
yelling mean things at me orhurting me.
There might, and black peoplehave been doing that for a long,
long time.
They have been putting theirlives on the line to fight for
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what's right.
So get with it, you know.
Get with it, folks.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
When you know you're fine.
You just simply know.
When you look at thedistinction between the two
grains, you know, like you gavea great illustration One is from
a pretty much a predominantlyrural area and one is
representing a urban mixed area.
And of course you know, theBible tells us this.
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Of course both of them saythey're Christian.
One is a Christian, one is anationalist, because I don't
think there's no such thing as aChristian nationalist.
You're one or the other.
You know, in the course of whenwe talk about, you know when
the Bible says we'll know themby their fruits.
You know, we got to look at thespeech.
Look at Marjorie TaylorGreene's speech.
Her behavior.
Nothing is Christian about that.
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She does not exhibit not onefruit of the spirit love, joy,
peace, kindness, patience,longsuffering.
You don't see any of that inher behavior or her speech.
And then, of course, the thingsthat she speak on, like you were
saying, those QAnon things thatshe support and promote, like
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the white replacement theory andspace lasers, and the people
from the banks, from theenvironment, all these different
kinds of corporations that wantto kill the planet.
Let's protect these things.
You know, like the gentlemanthat interrupted President Obama
, joe Wilson, he at least madesome I'm going to quote apology,
you know.
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And then, of course, then wesaw what Marjorie Taylor Greene
and Lauren Boebert did and again, it's just, there was no, there
was just a there's's just isjust that bias in the highway
things went.
But also understanding, again,when we talk about those two
people, you know, I say Al Green, he has.
When we talk, when we talkabout a mandate, right, you know
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, president Donald Trump, hesaid I have a mandate from the
people to cut Medicaid.
No, you don't, because I thinkeven the white people that
support him is like hey, whoa,wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
That's me, you're talking about, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
But understanding that, I would say Al Green has a
mandate Because, remember, whenTexas turned down $ hundred
billion dollars for Medicaid,they turned it down simply
because they had to pay tenbillion.
So what does that sell you?
You know, it's like theclassism, the racism, because
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they know that the hundredbillion dollars, well, the
hundred billion dollars inMedicaid, who's it going to
support?
It was going to support thelow-income, those that may have
a pre-existing illnesses, andjust marginalized and displaced
people.
And they, the state of Texas,turned that money down.
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And so in the out green isstanding up against those very
things, just like, hey, wait, a,you mean to tell me you'll
support, you know, the cuttingof Medicaid to give tax benefits
to the richest people in theworld, but yet you won't support
this to lift up theselow-income or marginalized
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people.
And that's where the differencein the two greens lie.
You know, one green, the grassis brown and maybe some green.
Look at two different lawns Oneis flittered and one is not.
One is, you know, is lively andgreen, one is not so.
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And that's where you know.
Look at again.
The Bible says well, know themby their fruits, by their speech
, by their behavior and we seethe differences in.
But, like you made another greatpoint how the Democrats with
Republicans, they it's like,it's like this.
They have been threatened to bein line.
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They see what happens when youdisagree with Trump.
You know you start gettingphone calls, you start people
start showing up at your door.
You know.
You know it, depending on who'sin place and what area of
business you work in, there'ssomeone above you that's gonna
know sabotage your business or,you know no shame your name, or
they'll put they'll what do youcall it?
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They'll uh, uh have someone runagainst you in your district to
get you out of there if youdisagree with him.
And they've fallen in line withthis threatening approach, and
I think that's something thatneeds to be called out by
democrats.
They have to call these thingsout and let people know hey,
it's okay to say you were wrong.
It's okay to disagree, becausethese very things that he's
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doing, he's doing them to you.
And one thing you applaudRepublicans for is, regardless
of what, they're on one accord.
They're on one accord with thisnonsense.
Whether they disagree, whetherthey agree or not, they are on
one accord with this nonsense.
And they're sticking together,marching down the field,
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destroying the country.
And Republicans made Democrats,we are, we're nitpicking little
bitty different things we have.
We have to, like I say, getbackbone in this thing.
You know, like, you're right,it was sad that there was no
support for our green and evenwith those uh 10, uh, the 10
democrats that actually votedfor this censorship, now those
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centralists I would probablyconsider myself to be uh,
central, because there's somethings I agree with, uh, when it
comes to spending and all thesethings, and but also, at the
same time, there has to beequity and there has to be, you
know, inclusion, and so it'sjust uh, there's a good mix of
things.
However, in this instance weare, we need, like how Godfather
said, like the movie Godfather,we need wartime consigliere, we
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need wartime people that'swilling to say you know what,
even though, just like they do,on that side.
I don't agree, but I'm stillwith you.
Democrats have to be the sameway.
I didn't agree, but I'm stillwith you.
Democrats have to be the sameway.
I didn't agree with that butI'm with you and I was just.
It was just, it wasdisheartening and at the same
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time, you know, like I said,with those 10 people, I
understand but I disagree andit's like at that time, because
I understand, this man issitting on national TV telling a
lie and one person, one man,says hey, and he didn't call him
a liar or anything, he justsaid no, no mandate, no mandate.
And the thing is there wasnothing.
There was no fluff, no filler,there was no lie, there was no,
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no inference, anything, justsimply calling out a lie.
You know, and this is where youknow we, as I'm a Democrat by
default, it is what it is, butyou know, and it's like you know
.
But we have to stop thisprogressive and moderate
Democrat stuff.
We have to really get on oneaccord with one message, just
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like they are, really get on oneaccord with one message, just
like they are.
And their vote in the sad partis their, their myth, that their
mandate is written in anine-plus page document and a
lot of people refuse to see andlook and review or acknowledge
that document is real.
Oh, he's not going to you seeall these executive orders.
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He's just trying to bypassgovernment as a whole and then
when that executive order isblocked, I'm going to sue and
it's like that's not howgovernment works and that's why
we talk about this all the time.
Raul, people got to come out oftheir news bubble.
People really need to learn andget a better understanding of
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politics and civics, how the youknow what are the functioning,
know what what?
Know what are theresponsibilities of government.
Because if we look and seewhat's happening in current
government, you know bankingregulations are being lifted.
No regulations on corporationsare being lifted and this is for
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the sole purpose to spoil thecountry.
Know, a lot of people are goingto get it to where they can't.
They're going to get it untilthey can't go to the favorite
Creek, the fish, when the air isso bad, or they start building
these power lines and coalburning all over the place and
this is just when we actuallytap out.
You know our natural resources.
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They ain't going to get ituntil then.
You know, uh, one of our friends, you know, we know serge
canning.
You know he's a noconservationist, no for salt
county.
He was saying like hey, and wereally got to get it together
because in a few short years wewill be at a point of no return.
You know there is still time tochange this thing and look at
clean energy and stop theseelection, this election denying.
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Well, that's not that part ofwhat he said.
But, like you know what we sayoh, there's no global warming,
there's nothing wrong with theenvironment, all these things.
We have to stop denying thosethings and really bring truth to
that.
So just, people have to comeout of their uh news bubbles and
see the other side of things.
But again, we talked about thisbefore.
I hate that.
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What's actually?
You're seeing it real time alot of people that have voted
for this particularadministration.
They have regret, they havebuyer's rem.
However, they won't sayanything because pride won't
allow them to say that I waswrong.
But the thing is, with thispodcast, what you and I are
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doing, we're giving people asafe space to say, yeah, I was
wrong.
Now, how do we fix this?
How do we redeem the time?
What can we do?
I was wrong because of Ken.
People are going to.
How do we redeem the time?
What can we do?
I was wrong because of Ken.
People are going to.
Lives are going to be lostbecause of medical like say
(30:56):
healthcare and things like thatis going to be taken away, or
it's going to be reduced sogreatly that you basically just
only coverage you're going toget taken away, or it's going to
be reduced so greatly that youbasically just only coverage
you're going to get is a newtoothbrush.
You know it is it's it's, it'ssad and so, but that's where you
know we're trying to sound thisalarm.
And uh and I'm glad that uh,representative al green said hey
(31:17):
, no mandate.
Because, again, if peoplereally look at no, if you like,
say again, people in their newsbubbles, all people will hear
you know, is that, oh there, Ihave a mandate from no, mandate
from the people.
No, if you research that,you'll see what is the context
of it and what's behind it.
(31:38):
And hey, he's going to cut yourmedic Medicare and in some way,
shape or form Medicaid Medicare.
Social Security affects everyonein this country.
That is why Elon Musk has a getaccess to the Treasury, so he
has access to everything andeveryone who receives what.
And then, of course, we giveaccess to that information from
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hackers.
A hacker collective has accessto our personal documents, our
living life documents, soanything can be manipulated and
within this hacker collectivethat has access to our things.
These people have connectionsto Russia, connections to Russia
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, and it's like do you get whatis happening here?
The country is being torn apartfrom within, because I think
they're going to pillage thecountry and move on, because if
we look at South Africa, this iswhat's happening.
Of course, the oligarchs ofSouth Africa, the Elon Musk and
the other guy that supports thatis JD Vance's money guy those
are two South Africans.
Yes, they bled South Africa,the resources, everything is a
(32:45):
mess.
And so now what do they do?
They say, oh, white SouthAfricans are being oppressed.
White South Africans are beingoppressed and so now we need to
make them refugees.
So Donald Trump signs an orderto make white South Africans
refugees, and people need to goand look at this throughout the
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world.
There was a lot of white SouthAfricans just been gained
citizenship in Germany and otherareas of the country, other
areas of the world.
Because they say, oh, they'rebeing white South Africans.
Mind you are being oppressed isthe language.
And so again, coming out of ournews bubbles to get both sides
of the story and really get tothe truth.
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But at the end of the day, wealways say, you and I hey what
does the Bible say about it?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
I always go back.
All the time we've been talkingabout this I keep thinking of
the man of La Mancha theater guyright and man of La Mancha.
It's the story of Don Quixote.
It's loosely based on thatnovel and he has one of the most
memorable songs in theatermusical history, the Impossible
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Dream.
Musical history, the ImpossibleDream.
And one of the lyrics of thatthat has always, always kind of
typified who Don Quixote is, whothe spirit of Don Quixote is.
He says to fight for the rightwithout question or pause, to be
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willing to march into hell fora heavenly cause, willing to
march into hell for a heavenlycause.
And there is such a differencebetween Al Green fighting for
the right without question orpause.
He didn't have a moment'shesitation when he stood up and
said you do not have a mandateto take away Medicaid Without
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question or pause.
And he was willing to marchinto hell.
He was willing to stand up andmake that statement in spite of
the hell that it was going tocause him by daring to stand up
in the middle of the president'saddress and say something.
So, so truthful Folks, what isit going to take?
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At what point will we say nomore?
This line you shall not cross.
There's an old Shakespeareansaying of going beyond the pale.
It was an old English phrase.
Was an old English phrase?
Beyond the pale meant to dosomething so far beyond what's
right and civil and civilizedand proper, so far beyond that.
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There's no words for it, right?
It's just so abysmallyabhorrent and horrible to be
beyond the pale.
And I gotta tell you we arebeyond the pale.
And I got to tell you we arebeyond the pale.
We are beyond the pale.
We are like in the end zonebehind the end zone, behind the
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end zone of the pale.
So at what point do we startsaying, okay, time to march into
hell for a heavenly cause,because we're building a hell,
we're allowing hell to be builtaround us.
And it's not aDemocrat-Republican thing, it's
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not a white and black thing, itis a have and have-nots.
The oligarchs, the people thathave all the money, the
one-tenth of one percent yourealize that they complain about
we pay most of the taxes.
Right, we pay 45% of the taxes.
Like that sums horror.
You know we're so wonderful forpaying that the reason that
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they pay 45% of the taxes isbecause they make so freaking
much money.
The people that in thatone-tenth of one percent
175,000-ish households make moremoney than 77 million people at
the other end of the spectrum175,000 versus 77 million
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households.
What does that tell you?
And those are the people thathave the green lawns with the
flowers and the perfectlymanicured, you know, hedges and
everything.
Oh, it looks so wonderful.
You know they are toouncomfortable.
They do not like having to livenext to a lawn that looks like
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a poor person's lawn does.
Who can't afford a lawnmower?
Sure as heck can't affordfertilizer, you know, would like
to plant some flowers, but thebest they can come up with is
the dandelions that grow.
They can't even afford to watertheir lawn.
Okay, those are those people.
They don't want to live next tothem, they don't want to be
reminded of them, they want themto go away.
(37:42):
So what better way?
Pull their Medicare, pull theirSocial Security.
They'll all starve, they'll alldie.
Fantastic, we'll be in powerforever because all of those
pesky poor people will be gone.
So it's haves and have nots.
The haves are not on our side.
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Whether they're Democrat orRepublican, they are not on our
side.
This is going to be the peoplethat really are being hurt.
White, black, brown, you know,it doesn't matter.
We're all being hurt that arein the 77 million class.
So we have to stop all thisbaloney of making, allowing them
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to turn us into enemy campswith one another based on our
race, based on our religion,based on whatever that they come
up with.
That that's why you don't have,because those Muslims are doing
all that nasty.
I mean, come on, really, thoseMuslims are fighting as much as
anyone else.
We've got a gentleman that wasleading some of the protests
with the pro-Palestinianprotests at one of our
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universities and he's in adetention center right now with
an eight-month pregnant wifebecause he was a leader or one
of the organizers of thoseprotest organizations.
So they just came in the middleof the night, took them away.
So this is all over, right,this injustice, this hell that's
(39:10):
being created.
So I put it out to you, anyonewho's listening, and please
share the podcast with others tohear you know what's the call
to arms.
At what point will we say thisis enough Time to march into
hell for a heavenly cause,because otherwise it is going to
be too late, not only for ourenvironment, it's going to be
(39:32):
too late for our culture, forAmerica, for the democracy.
It really is that serious.
We can't afford to be talkingabout nonsense and being
distracted by Trump talkingabout the Gulf of America,
excuse me or annexing Greenland,buying Greenland, and annexing
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Canada, taking back the PanamaCanal.
I mean, all those things aredistractions.
If he wants to go at it, youwant to call it the Gulf of
America.
That's chicken feed compared tothe stuff we need to stop.
So stop being distracted andyou know, focus on the things
that need to be focused on.
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The rest of it takes care ofitself over time, because we're
wasting way too much energy onthe wrong stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yes, yes, and you know, it's like.
You know it's funny how, likeyou know, when you make that
call out, how, like you know,the richest percent of the
country is saying, oh, we'repaying 40 X percent of the taxes
in the country, yeah, becauseyou make more money.
(40:42):
It's just that simple.
And, of course, and what we haveto really really grasp and
really slow down and listen tois like the wording of these
things and really slow down andlisten to is like the wording of
these things, you know, becausewhen you say in that context,
simply, hey, we're paying 47% ofthe country's taxes, a
low-minded person will say, wow,that's a good point.
And there's like, but no,everybody pays their full share.
Well, I guess I can't rememberthe exact percentage of your
state taxes, your federal taxes,your Social Security, those
(41:05):
things, whether they come to, ofyour income.
Twenty-seven percent, whateverit is.
If everybody's doing the samething, yes, you are going to pay
more, but again, it's like wehave to.
That's all we've been trying tosay.
Everybody pay their fair share,but of course, the richest of
the richest, what are they doing?
They're hiding their money inother countries.
(41:26):
I was reading something and itwas like a lot of rich people
say we don't keep our money inAmerica anymore and that's so.
They're getting double taxrelief.
In a sense, like you said, wecan't look at whoa, look at what
this hand is doing while thesethings are going on behind the
back, what the other hand can'tsee.
(41:47):
And you're right, it's like wedo have to march down to hell
for a heavenly cause, foreverything.
That just needs to be.
Everything needs to be moreequitable, and that's all black
people or people of coloractually want Make things even
equitable.
And of course, yes, the historyhas to be acknowledged as to
(42:08):
why we're at such a disadvantage.
You can't whitewash the history, you can't take it away.
You can't say, oh, those people, they love slavery or they just
are lazy and not willing towork for this and that and the
other.
We've got to get the fullcontext of the story of the
country in order to make sounddecisions moving forward, like
you know, even like, say, justwith the acknowledgement of the
DEI.
(42:28):
You know, of course, the powersthat be, they just simply hate
that a young white American says, hey, wow, I did not know that.
No, we were at a few years agoI don't know if you were at the
Empower Bearable event, powerbearable event and when it was
(42:51):
came when we had an intermission, you know, of course.
You know Mr Percy Brown and DrRainey Briggs were facilitating
and doing that teaching.
And one thing like a lot of thewhite people in the room, they
were shocked to learn somethingso simple as that when at the
World War II, you know, likewhen we talk about the GI Bill,
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none of the black soldiers gotit.
They were like, wow, we didn'tknow that they didn't get it and
so, but again, those are thethings that people need to know,
you know, because again it'slike there's get the full
context of the story of thecountry and that's what they're
trying to block.
And then, of course, no, like uh, with what's going on, the rich
(43:34):
are getting richer, but I Ijust in my heart what I believe
and what I see.
I believe that the richest ofthe rich, they're gonna I hate
using that r-a-p word they'regoing to pillage the country,
bleed it dry like South Africa,and move to somewhere else, or
just they're going to stay ontheir high heels where no
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pollution and things like thatare affecting them.
And so it's just Like you saywe have that, we have to fight.
We have in this life, we can'tfight.
It's almost like you can'tfight back, you got to fight
forward.
You know, it's like we have tojust say, ok, we're going to the
information that we have, we'regoing to push it forward, and
(44:17):
of course there's no threateningtone of the president and how,
if you speak up, no, there'sgoing to be a million people at
your door.
We have to fight through thosethings Because again it's like
they're trying to muzzle us.
They're trying to censor us inthe public so to speak, in a big
way.
(44:37):
And so, yeah, and so we just,like I said, brother, we just
have to fight.
And there's a as Christians.
You know, I'm so sad, I'm so,I'm just ain't, I'm just gonna
say it.
You know, uh, I'm angry at whatsome of the churches are
preaching, that they preach thatthis person is, uh, the second
(44:58):
coming with it, and I'm likethis no, trump has not exhibited
not one fruit of the spirit,not one.
But yet you're saying he's aChristian, he's for us, he's
this, that and the other.
It's like, no, he is not.
And, like the Bible tells us,many will be deceived.
So it's like, please know, myprayer is like no, lord, open
(45:18):
their spiritual eyes andspiritual ears that they may see
.
Because, again, people arefighting.
No, the other, the underlyingtone of this whole thing is race
, power and money, that's it.
And I just think people havebought into the white
replacement theory and they'refighting hard to shut.
They'd rather burn this downthan there be equity.
(45:41):
There's so many little thingsthat are going on in this
country that people just don'tknow about, like you know, oh,
you know, college campuses can't, you know, be influenced by
race anymore, but legacy stillsexist.
And when we talk about legacy.
Who would that pertain to?
You know, well-to-do whitepeople, but giving a person a
(46:02):
Harvard, giving them a partialscholarship to harvard yeah,
because, partially, because he'sblack no, that's, uh getting
him, uh, that's uh, that's,that's giving too much, that's,
that's, that's affirmativeaction.
Blah, blah, blah.
It's just.
Uh, we really have to watch thewording and what is being said
and what is being spewed out.
And again it comes from peoplecoming out of your own news
(46:23):
bubbles, coming into a neutralplace.
Okay, I hear you, I hear you,and, but now what?
What does the bible say?
What?
How is what both of y'allsaying affecting me?
Which?
Who is on my side?
Speaker 1 (46:35):
that's what we got to get to isn't it amazing it took
decades, literally decades oftime to make the kinds of
progress that we had made inequity, inclusion.
You know all those diversitywhich is, like, always been such
a weird thing to me that howdid we turn diversity inclusion
(47:01):
you know, how did those thingsget turned into bad?
How is trying to have equitybad?
How is trying to include people, make sure that everyone feels
included Women too right?
How is trying to promotediversity, which is what we are
(47:21):
as a nation?
We are a diverse nation.
Give me your hungry, your poor,your yearning to be free, your
wretched refuse.
Yearning to be free?
It's on our Statue of Liberty.
It's on our Statue of Liberty,okay, we are a country that
asked for, welcomed, pleaded forthe wretched refuse that was
(47:45):
yearning to be free and that'swho made up this country, and it
took weeks to rip away progressthat was made towards achieving
what the American dream is.
You want to talk about makingAmerica great again.
Let's get that Statue ofLiberty to be a truthful
(48:05):
statement and not something thatsounds nice, Because that's
where white, moderate Americagets stuck a lot of the time.
From what I see is we get stuckwith something that sounds nice
like.
You know all the things thatare going to happen that are
going to be bringing wealth backto America, you know.
But yeah, well, we're going tobring that wealth back to
(48:27):
America by firing a whole bunchof you guys that are sucking off
the taxpayers' money.
Wow, Wow, Fantastic.
We're going to get rid of allthe diversity inclusion nonsense
that's been all our governmentprograms.
We're going to take it off allof our websites.
There aren't going to be anycelebrations anymore in the
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military of any kind ofexclusive groups that are being
promoted because of theirindividual pride and history
that should be made known toothers, exposed to others.
Getting rid of all that stuff,Wow, and they're getting rid of
it because we did not march intohell for the heavenly cause yet
(49:08):
.
So we already went way overtime.
I'm so sorry.
We like, still did, like Idon't know, almost.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
We still didn't talk about JD Vance's nonsense.
Let's get to that another time.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Yeah, that, oh boy.
And Elon Musk.
We probably need a week's worthof talking on Elon Musk and, as
I man this tweet X quote fromearlier this week, that Hitler
never killed anybody.
It was public sector employeesthat did it.
And I'm like, well, likegarbage men came out and killed
Jews.
Was that Jewish public sectoremployee?
(49:44):
Like office workers, came outand killed Jews.
Was that Jewish public sectoremployees?
Like office workers, came outand did that.
It's like, yeah, well, you know, if some of the people that
were part of the Nazi regime atthat point were public sector
employees.
You know, I'm not going toargue the nuances of that syntax
.
What I'm going to argue is thatit wasn't like Hitler was
saying, boy, what are thosepublic sector employees doing?
(50:05):
I can't believe that they're.
That's just wrong.
Well, on to supper.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
The demonization of federal employees to kind of
justify what they're doing yeahyeah, it's like in public sector
employees back in World War II.
What were they doing?
It was not a whole lot going on, I wouldn't say that, but it's
like there's half as much goingon then as it is now.
(50:33):
So how?
And again, that's why you askmost of the country hey, does
that make sense to you?
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The days that I never evendreamed that there would be,
days where we would start to say, you know that Hitler wasn't
all so bad, but that's what'shappened, Anyways.
So I'm Raoul LaBruche and youfine young men, are.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Ed's from home to see you.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
And together we are a frame of reference, coming
together and I hope this getssome of you to come together and
have some discussions withfolks.
And you know, please, please,you know, put comments on the
website at f-o-r-s-a-u-k.
Forsockcom.
Um frame of reference lawcounty.
And, uh, you know, this is anopen forum where we, we are
(51:22):
willing to see where we're wrongand we're hoping you're willing
to do the same.
We are willing to see wherewe're wrong and we're hoping
you're willing to do the same,because that's how everybody
learns.
Okay, until next time, dude.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Right, and as always, man, it's a great pleasure
talking with you, man, and justhave a great weekend here,
brother.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Yeah, give my best to Ramona Now that she and I have
seen each other one-to-one.
She's in big trouble.
Man, tell her she's just in bigtrouble.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah, and of course you know, give our best to Ann.
You know we love her and justwe have her in prayer.
We just got everything liftedin prayer, brother, so please
know that.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Take care, folks.
Thanks for listening.
And it's on you.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Let's have it.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Well, hello, hello everybody.
You know we're coming into thispodcast.
I'm Raul LaBrush, by the way,in case you didn't know everyone
.
But that's who I am.
Like, raul LaBrush, as in fresh, and my good friend, my brother
, in this whole process I keepforgetting your name.
Who are you again?
Ed Warhol the senior?
(00:27):
Oh, that's right.
Why is it so hard for me toremember that name?
I guess I'm just a dummy.
Anyways, so we just got done.
I mean, not only did we'retalking, and then we were having
technical difficulties, andthen Antoine and I talking more
about other stuff that we talkabout.
His wife has just published abook.
(00:48):
We started talking about herbook and you know I have ordered
a copy of it, so that you know,I was just so excited to get a
hold of it.
Give it to my wife and daughter, because it's a devotional book
for women, written by a womanthat has learned devotion the
hard way, I would say.
And then Ramona got on thephone.
(01:10):
We hardly ever get to talk.
Ramona and I have said like hiand passing a couple of times,
but she and I got to talking andwell, here we are, an hour
later.
You know, it's just so.
It's been an interestingmorning, folks.
It has from my perspective.
I'm not my side of the table.
How about you, antoine?
How are you feeling about thismorning so far?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, I think when things happen, I always say
things happen for a reason, man,so the time was ordained, you
know what I mean.
And just the conversations needto be had.
There needed to be a break andI have had to.
You know, just say thank you,man, greatly for uh purchasing
my wife's uh devotional, uh foruh ann and elizabeth, and just
uh, thank you, man.
(01:51):
I know it's going to benefitthem greatly.
And again, like my wife wassaying, uh offline, you know how
it's a basically a mirror ofher personal journey and she's
uh really given a true testimonyof the things that she's
experienced in this life, and soit's going to touch the lives
of women everywhere.
You know, of course they canpurchase it on amazon.
It's called revival devotionaljournal and of course, you know
(02:14):
we're waiting on the websitelady to come fix the website so
she can come open up the storeon the website.
But you know, just um, just uh,it's just, it's going to
benefit women greatly.
We believe it's an anointingjournal and whether a woman is a
believer or not, it's going tobenefit greatly.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Amen.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Again, just thank you for your support and your
family's support with thepurpose of the book and just the
plugs you've been giving man,Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
My pleasure.
You know these are tough timesbeen giving man.
Thank you, my pleasure.
These are tough times in somany ways, I think all of us,
all of us, you know, and Ishouldn't say it's always tough
times, but particularly now itjust seems like it's so much
more like hello.
But you know, life is hard.
(03:03):
There's no way, shape or formabout it.
And so some people are blessedto have all kinds of you know
wonderful things in their livesand have the money to be able to
afford all kinds of things, andmaybe it doesn't seem as hard
for them.
I beg to differ just becauseyou know so many people that are
rich and have everything theywant are still really, really
unhappy people, you know.
(03:24):
So you look at that and think,okay, so where's the secret?
And well, you know, the secretis really obvious, right?
It's in this card called JesusChrist, you know.
So if you don't take that cardout of the stack and say you
know, this is the one I want toplay in, whatever game we're in,
(03:46):
I want to play this card You'regoing to struggle more than you
need to, and even with when youplay that card.
You know, in some ways I justtalk, I have thought, you know,
when they do like the evangelism, tent meetings or whatnot, and
they call people to Jesus andsay, come up the front of the
stage here and let's make adedication to Jesus, and that's
(04:11):
all fine and good, I mean, yousee people just break down and
really have a moment oftransformation.
But what I don't hear as oftenas I think I should is and
understand, now you have atarget on your back.
You know, it's just you've nowentered into the realm of total
spiritual warfare and it is notgoing to be.
(04:34):
You don't become a Christian tohave everything be, you know,
hunky-dory, rosy for the rest ofyour life.
That's just not how it works.
So, but what you do get is asense of not only eternal
salvation, but you also get asense that, as hard as it gets,
you've got somebody to go tothat will always be there for
you, never ever going to say Idon't have time for you right
(04:57):
now, and that's what a lot ofpeople are lacking, right that
you have all the money in theworld but you don't have
somebody you can just go to thatknows you, that will accept you
as who you are, that willwhatever.
Anyway, so that's been anythingthat I've been blessed or that
(05:18):
I have blessed you with.
I have been blessed 14 timesover with you guys as well.
So it goes two ways, man, itgoes two ways, absolutely.
So anyways, today, what we'regoing to talk about?
What was my idea?
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Do you remember?
Well, we just wanted to touchbase, man, on the censorship of
Representative Al Green and justthe contradicting, whole
contradicting nature of it.
And you know it's just a verydisturbing.
You know, of course, we know,when we say what, no course of,
what censorship is no, just,basically, is a rebuke, a
(05:55):
written rebuke against thatparticular person.
But also it's just howcontradictory it is.
You know, when we talk aboutyou know, oh, we've reviewed him
because he interrupted thepresident's speech.
You know, when we talk aboutyou know, oh, well, we rebuke
him because he interrupted thepresident's speech.
You know, you know we've seenthis before with no consequence
to others.
You know, of course, going backto Obama's speech when he was
talking about, you know, theAffordable Care Act, right,
(06:18):
representative Joe Wilson, he,obama, president Obama was
saying, hey, under thisAffordable Care Act, no illegal
immigrant will be covered bythis insurance.
And, representative Joe Wilson,he shouts out you lie.
(06:38):
And then, of course, but at thetime, the, the Speaker of the
House, or the, the Speaker ofthe House was Nancy Pelosi, and
she said nothing.
And then, of course, we see,when President Joe Biden was
giving a speech, marjorie TaylorGreene, jess Herr and Lauren
Bogert they interrupted him somany times and the Speaker at
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the time was Kevin McCarthy.
He said nothing.
But here we are, you know, ofcourse, a representative out
green speaking up against a liethat was being told on national
television from the mostpowerful person in the world.
He said all he said was nomandate, no mandate.
(07:23):
And yet, you know, they calledthe sergeant at arms on him to
have him removed.
It was just kind of insane.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, there's a.
I thought it was interesting to.
I started doing some researchbecause I you know I do not
spend a lot of time doingpolitical research, but when I
start doing it I just pick upright away on a lot of the
nuances of the people involvedin the whole thing.
So because I felt the same way,you know that all of a sudden
(07:58):
he gets escorted out foractually saying something
truthful.
I mean, he was Trump, wastalking about having a mandate
from the people.
And Al Green stood up, pointedhis cane up and said you do not
have a mandate to take awayMedicaid.
And you know making he wasn'tjust saying you're a liar, he's
saying you don't have a mandateto take away Medicaid, trying to
get that subject, that wholeplan, to the forefront and get
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people to understand On nationaltelevision.
Right, this is an opportunityto confront one of these lies
and get people to understand onnational television.
Right, this is an opportunityto confront one of these lies
and get people to think aboutthe consequences of what's going
on here.
And he gets escorted out for it.
So then I started looking at thepeople in this whole thing.
So, because we're looking attwo different sides of green.
(08:41):
You know two different shadesof green.
Right here you got Al Green andyou got Marjorie Taylor Green,
who actually smells it with anextra E.
Just, I think there was a threefor one sale or something or
three for two sale.
The day she was born they addedanother E in for free.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I jokingly say that Marjorie Taylor Green hates the
fact that she's part black.
Look at her hair, look at herfacial structures.
I believe she's part black.
Look at her hair, look at herfacial structures.
I believe she has black blood.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
You never know right.
Wouldn't that be the incredibleirony for her?
So you look at Al Green andthis is Wikipedia.
If you've got a problem withWikipedia, I've got to ask you
have you gone to DunderheadUniversity?
Have you gone to DunderheadUniversity?
Because Wikipedia is by far themost unbiased, patrolled for
(09:33):
veracity information sources outthere.
So if you doubt that, do someresearch on Wikipedia by people
outside.
It is contributed to by so manydifferent people and edited by
so many different people that itis as close to reality as we
can get on factual matters, likepeople.
Okay, so here's Alexander N AlGreen, born September 1st 1947,
(09:54):
member of the Democratic Party.
He served as a Justice of thePeace in Harris County, Texas,
from 1977 to 2004.
Throughout his tenure, Greenhas focused on issues such as
abortion rights in the UnitedStates and expanding social
programs in the United States.
And Green is a member of theUnited States House Committee on
(10:15):
Financial Services, where he'sadvocated for stronger banking
regulations.
There's a key stronger bankingregulations and corporate
accountability.
Now, if you don't think thosetwo things have put some targets
on his back, you are sorelymistaken, because that is
something you do not do.
You don't want to make thebankers ticked off, and you sure
(10:37):
as heck don't want to tick offthe corporations, because they
will come after you with bigsticks.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
So, of course, those are the very things that they're
lifting all these regulationson right now, Exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
So then let's look at the other green.
Okay, marjorie Taylor Greene,sometimes referred to by her
initials MTG, is an Americanfar-right politician,
businesswoman and conspiracytheorist who has been a US
representative for the Georgia's14th congressional district
since 2021.
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Greene has promotedanti-Semitic and white
supremacist views, including thewhite genocide conspiracy
theory, qanon Pizzagate.
She has amplified conspiracytheories that allege the
government involvement in massshootings in the United States,
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implicate the Clinton family inmurder and suggest the attacks
were a hoax.
Before running for Congress,greene supported calls to
execute prominent DemocraticParty politicians, including
Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.
As a congresswoman, she equatedthe Democratic Party with Nazis
(11:52):
and compared COVID-19 safetymeasures to the persecution of
Jews during the Holocaust, laterapologizing for this comparison
.
During the Russian invasion ofUkraine, greene promoted Russian
propaganda and praised VladimirPutin, and she identifies as a
Christian nationalist.
(12:14):
So there you have the twoGreene's in terms of you know
who they are.
Because we are what we do, youknow whether or not you can say
you know I am a kumquat.
But if you do not do any of thethings that a kumquat does, nor
do you look like a kumquat, norcan you be served with other
vegetables as a kumquat.
You are not a kumquat.
(12:34):
So these folks have more thandemonstrated who they are by
what they have done and whatthey've said, and who they align
with.
Now let's look a step further,folks.
This is our Wikipedia hour here.
The areas that they representedokay, marjorie Taylor Green
we'll stay with her to get thecomparison easily.
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She represents the Georgia's14th Congressional District.
Okay, located in NorthwestGeorgia, it was created
following the 2010 Republican,while conservative Democrats
held most local offices andstate legislative seats in what
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is now the 14th, well into the1990s.
Today, there are almost noelected Democrats above the
county level.
The Democrats have onlynominated a candidate in four of
the six elections since thedistrict was created and with
their best result being SeanHarris is 36% in the 2024
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election.
It includes.
There was one other thing Iwanted to do.
Well, I'll suffice that so youget an idea.
It's rural, very, you know,conservative, like you can look
at the the thing.
It looks like a big monster ora Pac-Man in terms of the way
that the lines are drawn on it.
(14:10):
So eating up all kinds of, youknow, radical liberals, I'm sure
, as it plugs along Texas' ninthdistrict, which is where Al
Green is from.
It includes the southwestportion of the greater Houston
area in Texas and from 1967 to2005, the 9th covered an area
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stretching from Galvestonthrough Houston to Beaumont.
Much of that area is now asecond district.
Most of the area now in the 9thwas the 25th district from 1983
to 2005.
So that's been a morphing areatoo right, but big difference
big urban area versus a bigrural area.
(14:52):
So therein, I guess I don't knowthat there's statistical
correlation here but it's aninteresting fact that you have
two different, very differentkinds of representations of
people in America right now andideologies in America, things
that those people accept astruth versus baloney.
And their representative is infact somebody that represents, I
(15:17):
would say people can argue withme if they want, but I would
say that they represent peoplethat are very much of the same
kind of ilk as who they are inCongress.
So the question becomes who isplaying by which set of rules
and who is not?
Because Marjorie Taylor Greeneand Lauren Burbitt during Joe
(15:38):
Biden's inauguration or State ofthe Union address was if you go
back and play it because it'sstill out there to listen to
they were far more I'm going tosay it far more disruptive than
Al Green was.
They were also disruptive in away that was just hateful,
spiteful.
(15:58):
I'm going to get in your faceand you are.
I have no respect for youwhatsoever Just in a you know,
spewing out nonsense, spewingout lies and acting like you
know.
If you saw them during thatspeech, they were like high
school kids sitting in theauditorium while the principal
(16:19):
tries to talk about what's goingon in you know school for the
next semester, whatever.
All they were missing wassmoking doobies and chewing gum
and throwing paper airplanes atpeople.
It was that level of behavior.
Al Green, in juxtaposition tothat, stands up and makes a
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statement that is hardcorereality.
Stands up and makes a statementthat is hardcore reality,
hardcore.
You know.
This is what's happening andchallenging lawmakers and the
president himself to stop lyingand talk about what your real
agenda is.
So I think, honestly, thebiggest problem with that is
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that Democrats said nothing tosupport him.
Democrats sat there after he gotescorted and didn't do anything
.
In fact, 10 of them voted tocensure him, along with the
Republicans after this wholething, to say naughty, al
naughty.
They censured him, which isessentially, you know, just
(17:23):
being saying you were bad andwe're gonna make sure you get a
mark in your folder.
I don't remember MarjorieTaylor Greene getting censured.
There was a point where she gotthrown off a bunch of
committees for her conspiracytheories, which was made sense
because she was just wacko aboutthat stuff, and still is, but
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it just it's so.
It's just so indicative of thedouble standard in our country
and so indicative of the factthat white, moderate America
continues to just sit back andgo.
Well, you know he did misbehave, instead of going no, you know,
yes, he misbehaved.
He himself said I will take theconsequences for my actions.
(18:07):
Gleefully, almost right, Iunderstand that, but he was
fighting for something right.
He was fighting for somethingtruthful versus the people.
That lie and lie and lie and lieand lie, and lie and lie, and
we just said, oh well, you knowthere's some truth to what
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they're saying, and line up withthem.
I mean, just get back in line,buddy.
Hail Trump, hail Trump.
Get back in line.
I just don't get it.
Where is the backbone?
I'm calling on us white people,folks, we're going to have to
put it on the line.
You know it's time for us tostop being moderate and laying
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around going.
You know that's so bad.
You know he was really beingnaughty, though.
Stop doing that bullshit andsaying no, he was saying the
truth and he got crucified forit.
You know he got escorted out ofthe chamber like some naughty
boy that you know needs to bepunished now and he ought to
spend some time in detention forspeaking the truth.
(19:10):
Really, that's what America'sstanding for right now, and you
know where are we in thisequation?
Oh well, you know he is a blackman.
What?
What is the rationale?
Because Martin Luther King saidit himself in the 1960s, shortly
before he's killed.
He said he's begun to realizethat not only is there still a
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lot of work, but the thing thathe was most concerned about was
white, moderate America, becausehe ultimately wasn't sure that
we had the backbone, the cojones, to stand up and do what's
right and say bone the cojonesto stand up and do what's right
and say this is not who we are.
We are going to be these people.
We are holding these truths tobe self-evident and we're
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willing to put whatever we needto down on the line to say no
more, no more.
And you know, I don't know whatto tell you folks, given the
way things are going, a lot ofus might have to die.
You know, we might have to takethat full measure of devotion.
I don't know what to tell you.
(20:13):
So maybe that's what we're soconcerned about.
Oh, I don't want to lose myToyota.
I can't.
What would I do without myToyota?
Or, you know, I can't, I can't,I don't, I don't want people
yelling mean things at me orhurting me.
There might, and black peoplehave been doing that for a long,
long time.
They have been putting theirlives on the line to fight for
(20:36):
what's right.
So get with it, you know.
Get with it, folks.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
When you know you're fine.
You just simply know.
When you look at thedistinction between the two
grains, you know, like you gavea great illustration One is from
a pretty much a predominantlyrural area and one is
representing a urban mixed area.
And of course you know, theBible tells us this.
(21:07):
Of course both of them saythey're Christian.
One is a Christian, one is anationalist, because I don't
think there's no such thing as aChristian nationalist.
You're one or the other.
You know, in the course of whenwe talk about, you know when
the Bible says we'll know themby their fruits.
You know, we got to look at thespeech.
Look at Marjorie TaylorGreene's speech.
Her behavior.
Nothing is Christian about that.
(21:27):
She does not exhibit not onefruit of the spirit love, joy,
peace, kindness, patience,longsuffering.
You don't see any of that inher behavior or her speech.
And then, of course, the thingsthat she speak on, like you were
saying, those QAnon things thatshe support and promote, like
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the white replacement theory andspace lasers, and the people
from the banks, from theenvironment, all these different
kinds of corporations that wantto kill the planet.
Let's protect these things.
You know, like the gentlemanthat interrupted President Obama
, joe Wilson, he at least madesome I'm going to quote apology,
you know.
(22:37):
And then, of course, then wesaw what Marjorie Taylor Greene
and Lauren Boebert did and again, it's just, there was no, there
was just a there's's just isjust that bias in the highway
things went.
But also understanding, again,when we talk about those two
people, you know, I say Al Green, he has.
When we talk, when we talkabout a mandate, right, you know
(23:01):
, president Donald Trump, hesaid I have a mandate from the
people to cut Medicaid.
No, you don't, because I thinkeven the white people that
support him is like hey, whoa,wait a minute.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
That's me, you're talking about, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
But understanding that, I would say Al Green has a
mandate Because, remember, whenTexas turned down $ hundred
billion dollars for Medicaid,they turned it down simply
because they had to pay tenbillion.
So what does that sell you?
You know, it's like theclassism, the racism, because
(23:35):
they know that the hundredbillion dollars, well, the
hundred billion dollars inMedicaid, who's it going to
support?
It was going to support thelow-income, those that may have
a pre-existing illnesses, andjust marginalized and displaced
people.
And they, the state of Texas,turned that money down.
(23:56):
And so in the out green isstanding up against those very
things, just like, hey, wait, a,you mean to tell me you'll
support, you know, the cuttingof Medicaid to give tax benefits
to the richest people in theworld, but yet you won't support
this to lift up theselow-income or marginalized
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people.
And that's where the differencein the two greens lie.
You know, one green, the grassis brown and maybe some green.
Look at two different lawns Oneis flittered and one is not.
One is, you know, is lively andgreen, one is not so.
(24:38):
And that's where you know.
Look at again.
The Bible says well, know themby their fruits, by their speech
, by their behavior and we seethe differences in.
But, like you made another greatpoint how the Democrats with
Republicans, they it's like,it's like this.
They have been threatened to bein line.
(24:59):
They see what happens when youdisagree with Trump.
You know you start gettingphone calls, you start people
start showing up at your door.
You know.
You know it, depending on who'sin place and what area of
business you work in, there'ssomeone above you that's gonna
know sabotage your business or,you know no shame your name, or
they'll put they'll what do youcall it?
(25:21):
They'll uh, uh have someone runagainst you in your district to
get you out of there if youdisagree with him.
And they've fallen in line withthis threatening approach, and
I think that's something thatneeds to be called out by
democrats.
They have to call these thingsout and let people know hey,
it's okay to say you were wrong.
It's okay to disagree, becausethese very things that he's
(25:43):
doing, he's doing them to you.
And one thing you applaudRepublicans for is, regardless
of what, they're on one accord.
They're on one accord with thisnonsense.
Whether they disagree, whetherthey agree or not, they are on
one accord with this nonsense.
And they're sticking together,marching down the field,
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destroying the country.
And Republicans made Democrats,we are, we're nitpicking little
bitty different things we have.
We have to, like I say, getbackbone in this thing.
You know, like, you're right,it was sad that there was no
support for our green and evenwith those uh 10, uh, the 10
democrats that actually votedfor this censorship, now those
(26:28):
centralists I would probablyconsider myself to be uh,
central, because there's somethings I agree with, uh, when it
comes to spending and all thesethings, and but also, at the
same time, there has to beequity and there has to be, you
know, inclusion, and so it'sjust uh, there's a good mix of
things.
However, in this instance weare, we need, like how Godfather
said, like the movie Godfather,we need wartime consigliere, we
(26:52):
need wartime people that'swilling to say you know what,
even though, just like they do,on that side.
I don't agree, but I'm stillwith you.
Democrats have to be the sameway.
I didn't agree, but I'm stillwith you.
Democrats have to be the sameway.
I didn't agree with that butI'm with you and I was just.
It was just, it wasdisheartening and at the same
(27:14):
time, you know, like I said,with those 10 people, I
understand but I disagree andit's like at that time, because
I understand, this man issitting on national TV telling a
lie and one person, one man,says hey, and he didn't call him
a liar or anything, he justsaid no, no mandate, no mandate.
And the thing is there wasnothing.
There was no fluff, no filler,there was no lie, there was no,
(27:37):
no inference, anything, justsimply calling out a lie.
You know, and this is where youknow we, as I'm a Democrat by
default, it is what it is, butyou know, and it's like you know
.
But we have to stop thisprogressive and moderate
Democrat stuff.
We have to really get on oneaccord with one message, just
(28:01):
like they are, really get on oneaccord with one message, just
like they are.
And their vote in the sad partis their, their myth, that their
mandate is written in anine-plus page document and a
lot of people refuse to see andlook and review or acknowledge
that document is real.
Oh, he's not going to you seeall these executive orders.
(28:23):
He's just trying to bypassgovernment as a whole and then
when that executive order isblocked, I'm going to sue and
it's like that's not howgovernment works and that's why
we talk about this all the time.
Raul, people got to come out oftheir news bubble.
People really need to learn andget a better understanding of
(28:45):
politics and civics, how the youknow what are the functioning,
know what what?
Know what are theresponsibilities of government.
Because if we look and seewhat's happening in current
government, you know bankingregulations are being lifted.
No regulations on corporationsare being lifted and this is for
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the sole purpose to spoil thecountry.
Know, a lot of people are goingto get it to where they can't.
They're going to get it untilthey can't go to the favorite
Creek, the fish, when the air isso bad, or they start building
these power lines and coalburning all over the place and
this is just when we actuallytap out.
You know our natural resources.
(29:27):
They ain't going to get ituntil then.
You know, uh, one of our friends, you know, we know serge
canning.
You know he's a noconservationist, no for salt
county.
He was saying like hey, and wereally got to get it together
because in a few short years wewill be at a point of no return.
You know there is still time tochange this thing and look at
clean energy and stop theseelection, this election denying.
(29:51):
Well, that's not that part ofwhat he said.
But, like you know what we sayoh, there's no global warming,
there's nothing wrong with theenvironment, all these things.
We have to stop denying thosethings and really bring truth to
that.
So just, people have to comeout of their uh news bubbles and
see the other side of things.
But again, we talked about thisbefore.
I hate that.
(30:12):
What's actually?
You're seeing it real time alot of people that have voted
for this particularadministration.
They have regret, they havebuyer's rem.
However, they won't sayanything because pride won't
allow them to say that I waswrong.
But the thing is, with thispodcast, what you and I are
(30:33):
doing, we're giving people asafe space to say, yeah, I was
wrong.
Now, how do we fix this?
How do we redeem the time?
What can we do?
I was wrong because of Ken.
People are going to.
How do we redeem the time?
What can we do?
I was wrong because of Ken.
People are going to.
Lives are going to be lostbecause of medical like say
(30:56):
healthcare and things like thatis going to be taken away, or
it's going to be reduced sogreatly that you basically just
only coverage you're going toget taken away, or it's going to
be reduced so greatly that youbasically just only coverage
you're going to get is a newtoothbrush.
You know it is it's it's, it'ssad and so, but that's where you
know we're trying to sound thisalarm.
And uh and I'm glad that uh,representative al green said hey
(31:17):
, no mandate.
Because, again, if peoplereally look at no, if you like,
say again, people in their newsbubbles, all people will hear
you know, is that, oh there, Ihave a mandate from no, mandate
from the people.
No, if you research that,you'll see what is the context
of it and what's behind it.
(31:38):
And hey, he's going to cut yourmedic Medicare and in some way,
shape or form Medicaid Medicare.
Social Security affects everyonein this country.
That is why Elon Musk has a getaccess to the Treasury, so he
has access to everything andeveryone who receives what.
And then, of course, we giveaccess to that information from
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hackers.
A hacker collective has accessto our personal documents, our
living life documents, soanything can be manipulated and
within this hacker collectivethat has access to our things.
These people have connectionsto Russia, connections to Russia
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, and it's like do you get whatis happening here?
The country is being torn apartfrom within, because I think
they're going to pillage thecountry and move on, because if
we look at South Africa, this iswhat's happening.
Of course, the oligarchs ofSouth Africa, the Elon Musk and
the other guy that supports thatis JD Vance's money guy those
are two South Africans.
Yes, they bled South Africa,the resources, everything is a
(32:45):
mess.
And so now what do they do?
They say, oh, white SouthAfricans are being oppressed.
White South Africans are beingoppressed and so now we need to
make them refugees.
So Donald Trump signs an orderto make white South Africans
refugees, and people need to goand look at this throughout the
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world.
There was a lot of white SouthAfricans just been gained
citizenship in Germany and otherareas of the country, other
areas of the world.
Because they say, oh, they'rebeing white South Africans.
Mind you are being oppressed isthe language.
And so again, coming out of ournews bubbles to get both sides
of the story and really get tothe truth.
(33:28):
But at the end of the day, wealways say, you and I hey what
does the Bible say about it?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
I always go back.
All the time we've been talkingabout this I keep thinking of
the man of La Mancha theater guyright and man of La Mancha.
It's the story of Don Quixote.
It's loosely based on thatnovel and he has one of the most
memorable songs in theatermusical history, the Impossible
(33:57):
Dream.
Musical history, the ImpossibleDream.
And one of the lyrics of thatthat has always, always kind of
typified who Don Quixote is, whothe spirit of Don Quixote is.
He says to fight for the rightwithout question or pause, to be
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willing to march into hell fora heavenly cause, willing to
march into hell for a heavenlycause.
And there is such a differencebetween Al Green fighting for
the right without question orpause.
He didn't have a moment'shesitation when he stood up and
said you do not have a mandateto take away Medicaid Without
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question or pause.
And he was willing to marchinto hell.
He was willing to stand up andmake that statement in spite of
the hell that it was going tocause him by daring to stand up
in the middle of the president'saddress and say something.
So, so truthful Folks, what isit going to take?
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At what point will we say nomore?
This line you shall not cross.
There's an old Shakespeareansaying of going beyond the pale.
It was an old English phrase.
Was an old English phrase?
Beyond the pale meant to dosomething so far beyond what's
right and civil and civilizedand proper, so far beyond that.
(35:31):
There's no words for it, right?
It's just so abysmallyabhorrent and horrible to be
beyond the pale.
And I gotta tell you we arebeyond the pale.
And I got to tell you we arebeyond the pale.
We are beyond the pale.
We are like in the end zonebehind the end zone, behind the
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end zone of the pale.
So at what point do we startsaying, okay, time to march into
hell for a heavenly cause,because we're building a hell,
we're allowing hell to be builtaround us.
And it's not aDemocrat-Republican thing, it's
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not a white and black thing, itis a have and have-nots.
The oligarchs, the people thathave all the money, the
one-tenth of one percent yourealize that they complain about
we pay most of the taxes.
Right, we pay 45% of the taxes.
Like that sums horror.
You know we're so wonderful forpaying that the reason that
(36:34):
they pay 45% of the taxes isbecause they make so freaking
much money.
The people that in thatone-tenth of one percent
175,000-ish households make moremoney than 77 million people at
the other end of the spectrum175,000 versus 77 million
(36:58):
households.
What does that tell you?
And those are the people thathave the green lawns with the
flowers and the perfectlymanicured, you know, hedges and
everything.
Oh, it looks so wonderful.
You know they are toouncomfortable.
They do not like having to livenext to a lawn that looks like
(37:18):
a poor person's lawn does.
Who can't afford a lawnmower?
Sure as heck can't affordfertilizer, you know, would like
to plant some flowers, but thebest they can come up with is
the dandelions that grow.
They can't even afford to watertheir lawn.
Okay, those are those people.
They don't want to live next tothem, they don't want to be
reminded of them, they want themto go away.
(37:42):
So what better way?
Pull their Medicare, pull theirSocial Security.
They'll all starve, they'll alldie.
Fantastic, we'll be in powerforever because all of those
pesky poor people will be gone.
So it's haves and have nots.
The haves are not on our side.
(38:05):
Whether they're Democrat orRepublican, they are not on our
side.
This is going to be the peoplethat really are being hurt.
White, black, brown, you know,it doesn't matter.
We're all being hurt that arein the 77 million class.
So we have to stop all thisbaloney of making, allowing them
(38:27):
to turn us into enemy campswith one another based on our
race, based on our religion,based on whatever that they come
up with.
That that's why you don't have,because those Muslims are doing
all that nasty.
I mean, come on, really, thoseMuslims are fighting as much as
anyone else.
We've got a gentleman that wasleading some of the protests
with the pro-Palestinianprotests at one of our
(38:50):
universities and he's in adetention center right now with
an eight-month pregnant wifebecause he was a leader or one
of the organizers of thoseprotest organizations.
So they just came in the middleof the night, took them away.
So this is all over, right,this injustice, this hell that's
(39:10):
being created.
So I put it out to you, anyonewho's listening, and please
share the podcast with others tohear you know what's the call
to arms.
At what point will we say thisis enough Time to march into
hell for a heavenly cause,because otherwise it is going to
be too late, not only for ourenvironment, it's going to be
(39:32):
too late for our culture, forAmerica, for the democracy.
It really is that serious.
We can't afford to be talkingabout nonsense and being
distracted by Trump talkingabout the Gulf of America,
excuse me or annexing Greenland,buying Greenland, and annexing
(39:53):
Canada, taking back the PanamaCanal.
I mean, all those things aredistractions.
If he wants to go at it, youwant to call it the Gulf of
America.
That's chicken feed compared tothe stuff we need to stop.
So stop being distracted andyou know, focus on the things
that need to be focused on.
(40:14):
The rest of it takes care ofitself over time, because we're
wasting way too much energy onthe wrong stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
Yes, yes, and you know, it's like.
You know it's funny how, likeyou know, when you make that
call out, how, like you know,the richest percent of the
country is saying, oh, we'repaying 40 X percent of the taxes
in the country, yeah, becauseyou make more money.
(40:42):
It's just that simple.
And, of course, and what we haveto really really grasp and
really slow down and listen tois like the wording of these
things and really slow down andlisten to is like the wording of
these things, you know, becausewhen you say in that context,
simply, hey, we're paying 47% ofthe country's taxes, a
low-minded person will say, wow,that's a good point.
And there's like, but no,everybody pays their full share.
Well, I guess I can't rememberthe exact percentage of your
state taxes, your federal taxes,your Social Security, those
(41:05):
things, whether they come to, ofyour income.
Twenty-seven percent, whateverit is.
If everybody's doing the samething, yes, you are going to pay
more, but again, it's like wehave to.
That's all we've been trying tosay.
Everybody pay their fair share,but of course, the richest of
the richest, what are they doing?
They're hiding their money inother countries.
(41:26):
I was reading something and itwas like a lot of rich people
say we don't keep our money inAmerica anymore and that's so.
They're getting double taxrelief.
In a sense, like you said, wecan't look at whoa, look at what
this hand is doing while thesethings are going on behind the
back, what the other hand can'tsee.
(41:47):
And you're right, it's like wedo have to march down to hell
for a heavenly cause, foreverything.
That just needs to be.
Everything needs to be moreequitable, and that's all black
people or people of coloractually want Make things even
equitable.
And of course, yes, the historyhas to be acknowledged as to
(42:08):
why we're at such a disadvantage.
You can't whitewash the history, you can't take it away.
You can't say, oh, those people, they love slavery or they just
are lazy and not willing towork for this and that and the
other.
We've got to get the fullcontext of the story of the
country in order to make sounddecisions moving forward, like
you know, even like, say, justwith the acknowledgement of the
DEI.
(42:28):
You know, of course, the powersthat be, they just simply hate
that a young white American says, hey, wow, I did not know that.
No, we were at a few years agoI don't know if you were at the
Empower Bearable event, powerbearable event and when it was
(42:51):
came when we had an intermission, you know, of course.
You know Mr Percy Brown and DrRainey Briggs were facilitating
and doing that teaching.
And one thing like a lot of thewhite people in the room, they
were shocked to learn somethingso simple as that when at the
World War II, you know, likewhen we talk about the GI Bill,
(43:12):
none of the black soldiers gotit.
They were like, wow, we didn'tknow that they didn't get it and
so, but again, those are thethings that people need to know,
you know, because again it'slike there's get the full
context of the story of thecountry and that's what they're
trying to block.
And then, of course, no, like uh, with what's going on, the rich
(43:34):
are getting richer, but I Ijust in my heart what I believe
and what I see.
I believe that the richest ofthe rich, they're gonna I hate
using that r-a-p word they'regoing to pillage the country,
bleed it dry like South Africa,and move to somewhere else, or
just they're going to stay ontheir high heels where no
(43:56):
pollution and things like thatare affecting them.
And so it's just Like you saywe have that, we have to fight.
We have in this life, we can'tfight.
It's almost like you can'tfight back, you got to fight
forward.
You know, it's like we have tojust say, ok, we're going to the
information that we have, we'regoing to push it forward, and
(44:17):
of course there's no threateningtone of the president and how,
if you speak up, no, there'sgoing to be a million people at
your door.
We have to fight through thosethings Because again it's like
they're trying to muzzle us.
They're trying to censor us inthe public so to speak, in a big
way.
(44:37):
And so, yeah, and so we just,like I said, brother, we just
have to fight.
And there's a as Christians.
You know, I'm so sad, I'm so,I'm just ain't, I'm just gonna
say it.
You know, uh, I'm angry at whatsome of the churches are
preaching, that they preach thatthis person is, uh, the second
(44:58):
coming with it, and I'm likethis no, trump has not exhibited
not one fruit of the spirit,not one.
But yet you're saying he's aChristian, he's for us, he's
this, that and the other.
It's like, no, he is not.
And, like the Bible tells us,many will be deceived.
So it's like, please know, myprayer is like no, lord, open
(45:18):
their spiritual eyes andspiritual ears that they may see
.
Because, again, people arefighting.
No, the other, the underlyingtone of this whole thing is race
, power and money, that's it.
And I just think people havebought into the white
replacement theory and they'refighting hard to shut.
They'd rather burn this downthan there be equity.
(45:41):
There's so many little thingsthat are going on in this
country that people just don'tknow about, like you know, oh,
you know, college campuses can't, you know, be influenced by
race anymore, but legacy stillsexist.
And when we talk about legacy.
Who would that pertain to?
You know, well-to-do whitepeople, but giving a person a
(46:02):
Harvard, giving them a partialscholarship to harvard yeah,
because, partially, because he'sblack no, that's, uh getting
him, uh, that's uh, that's,that's giving too much, that's,
that's, that's affirmativeaction.
Blah, blah, blah.
It's just.
Uh, we really have to watch thewording and what is being said
and what is being spewed out.
And again it comes from peoplecoming out of your own news
(46:23):
bubbles, coming into a neutralplace.
Okay, I hear you, I hear you,and, but now what?
What does the bible say?
What?
How is what both of y'allsaying affecting me?
Which?
Who is on my side?
Speaker 1 (46:35):
that's what we got to get to isn't it amazing it took
decades, literally decades oftime to make the kinds of
progress that we had made inequity, inclusion.
You know all those diversitywhich is, like, always been such
a weird thing to me that howdid we turn diversity inclusion
(47:01):
you know, how did those thingsget turned into bad?
How is trying to have equitybad?
How is trying to include people, make sure that everyone feels
included Women too right?
How is trying to promotediversity, which is what we are
(47:21):
as a nation?
We are a diverse nation.
Give me your hungry, your poor,your yearning to be free, your
wretched refuse.
Yearning to be free?
It's on our Statue of Liberty.
It's on our Statue of Liberty,okay, we are a country that
asked for, welcomed, pleaded forthe wretched refuse that was
(47:45):
yearning to be free and that'swho made up this country, and it
took weeks to rip away progressthat was made towards achieving
what the American dream is.
You want to talk about makingAmerica great again.
Let's get that Statue ofLiberty to be a truthful
(48:05):
statement and not something thatsounds nice, Because that's
where white, moderate Americagets stuck a lot of the time.
From what I see is we get stuckwith something that sounds nice
like.
You know all the things thatare going to happen that are
going to be bringing wealth backto America, you know.
But yeah, well, we're going tobring that wealth back to
(48:27):
America by firing a whole bunchof you guys that are sucking off
the taxpayers' money.
Wow, Wow, Fantastic.
We're going to get rid of allthe diversity inclusion nonsense
that's been all our governmentprograms.
We're going to take it off allof our websites.
There aren't going to be anycelebrations anymore in the
(48:47):
military of any kind ofexclusive groups that are being
promoted because of theirindividual pride and history
that should be made known toothers, exposed to others.
Getting rid of all that stuff,Wow, and they're getting rid of
it because we did not march intohell for the heavenly cause yet
(49:08):
.
So we already went way overtime.
I'm so sorry.
We like, still did, like Idon't know, almost.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
We still didn't talk about JD Vance's nonsense.
Let's get to that another time.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
Yeah, that, oh boy.
And Elon Musk.
We probably need a week's worthof talking on Elon Musk and, as
I man this tweet X quote fromearlier this week, that Hitler
never killed anybody.
It was public sector employeesthat did it.
And I'm like, well, likegarbage men came out and killed
Jews.
Was that Jewish public sectoremployee?
(49:44):
Like office workers, came outand killed Jews.
Was that Jewish public sectoremployees?
Like office workers, came outand did that.
It's like, yeah, well, you know, if some of the people that
were part of the Nazi regime atthat point were public sector
employees.
You know, I'm not going toargue the nuances of that syntax
.
What I'm going to argue is thatit wasn't like Hitler was
saying, boy, what are thosepublic sector employees doing?
(50:05):
I can't believe that they're.
That's just wrong.
Well, on to supper.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
The demonization of federal employees to kind of
justify what they're doing yeahyeah, it's like in public sector
employees back in World War II.
What were they doing?
It was not a whole lot going on, I wouldn't say that, but it's
like there's half as much goingon then as it is now.
(50:33):
So how?
And again, that's why you askmost of the country hey, does
that make sense to you?
Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The days that I never evendreamed that there would be,
days where we would start to say, you know that Hitler wasn't
all so bad, but that's what'shappened, Anyways.
So I'm Raoul LaBruche and youfine young men, are.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
Ed's from home to see you.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
And together we are a frame of reference, coming
together and I hope this getssome of you to come together and
have some discussions withfolks.
And you know, please, please,you know, put comments on the
website at f-o-r-s-a-u-k.
Forsockcom.
Um frame of reference lawcounty.
And, uh, you know, this is anopen forum where we, we are
(51:22):
willing to see where we're wrongand we're hoping you're willing
to do the same.
We are willing to see wherewe're wrong and we're hoping
you're willing to do the same,because that's how everybody
learns.
Okay, until next time, dude.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Right, and as always, man, it's a great pleasure
talking with you, man, and justhave a great weekend here,
brother.
Speaker 1 (51:41):
Yeah, give my best to Ramona Now that she and I have
seen each other one-to-one.
She's in big trouble.
Man, tell her she's just in bigtrouble.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yeah, and of course you know, give our best to Ann.
You know we love her and justwe have her in prayer.
We just got everything liftedin prayer, brother, so please
know that.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
Take care, folks.
Thanks for listening.
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