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June 24, 2024 47 mins

Former Acting Director of the FBI Andrew McCabe joins hosts Chip Franklin and Frank Figliuzzi to discuss how Trump and MAGA world’s attacks have endangered him and his family in the latest episode of Frankly.

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You’ll hear first hand about Andrew McCabe’s experience in the Trump administration. McCabe was fired as Acting Director of the FBI by Trump’s Attorney General back in March 2018, only hours before he was eligible for retirement. The firing was an act of political retribution for Andy opening two investigations into Trump - one to determine if the former President had obstructed justice by firing James Comey, and the other to determine if Trump was acting on behalf of the Russian government.

“It was incredibly stressful,” Andy told us. “We were making very hard choices with really no precedent to follow. But that's just what you do when you're in the FBI. We don't pledge fealty to a king or a prime minister or a president. We swear an oath to the constitution and we do what we believe is necessary under the constitution, whether people are going to like it or not.”

McCabe has since been cleared of wrongdoing, and awarded back pay as well as his pension. Nevertheless, since then, Andy has been a repeated and leading target for harassment and threats by Steve Bannon and Donald Trump. He was one of the brave few to stand up to Donald Trump- and now he pays the price. 

In this fantastic episode, we’ll discuss how MAGA’s intimidation tactics and Trump’s threat to reclassify 50,000 government leaders into political appointees will likely influence future decisions by the FBI and DOJ. 

“When Trump starts to attack someone personally, what generates from that is a perimeter of fear,” Andy told us. “And everyone who's within that perimeter recedes into a defensive crouch. That fear is an organized crime tactic. That's the fear that gets people to comply.”

We’ll also talk about the horrors that a second Trump term could pose, including the terrifying prospect of Michael Flynn serving as the next Attorney General. “To see where he is with this QAnon stuff is just sad,” McCabe surmised. “I put him right up there with Giuliani as one of the few people whose fall has been just so tragic and so obvious.”

From ISIS-K, to Hamas in the US, to domestic terror, Andrew breaks down the most chilling looming threats to our national security. This is absolutely something everyone needs to hear.

Frank also gives us a quick update on his brand new, TOP RANKED book Long


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