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August 8, 2025 92 mins

What happens when the work you love, your life’s devotion, collides with public scrutiny, betrayal, and cancel culture?


In this intimate conversation, I sit down with my closest collaborator and soul sister in this movement, Yolande Norris-Clark. Together, we unpack what it’s been like to build groundbreaking programs for women, like our 10-month mentorship, The MatriBirth Mentor Institute (MMI), while simultaneously weathering the storm of online harassment, public misrepresentation, and the many initiations that come with success.


This is a raw and honest reflection on navigating backlash, strengthening boundaries, and staying anchored in your values while walking a path most don’t understand. We speak to the complex dance of sisterhood and collaboration, and how our friendship has been both tested and deepened by the work we continue to stand for.


This episode is for the women who know they’re here to disrupt the norm, build what’s never been built before, and stay the course even when darkness tries to push back.


Inside this episode, we explore:


  • What hate groups taught us about privacy, protection, and spiritual hygiene
  • Why we chose to rebrand the name of MMI to something that feels more aligned
  • How scrutiny and slander can catalyze profound personal evolution and maturity
  • The beauty and necessity of sisterhood that doesn’t flinch under fire
  • Why being rooted in purpose is the only sustainable strategy for enduring cancel culture
  • What it really takes to keep showing up when you know you’re being watched in bad faith


We created The MatriBirth Mentor Institute because we know the sovereign birth-work path isn’t easy—but it’s necessary. MMI is the container for women called to lead in truth, in integrity, and in devotion. This episode is a glimpse into the lived experience of harvesting the fruits of “mob mentality” and doing the inner work to become “uncancellable”.



Timestamps:


[00:00] Introduction

[04:22] Fear of visibility and public backlash in sovereign birth work

[12:54] Processing betrayal and loss of support

[22:28] Birth as a political and spiritual battleground

[42:05] Finding freedom and accountability in the face of public criticism

[54:59] Growing into leadership and re-evaluating boundaries

[01:08:32] Building a lasting movement for sovereign birth and mentorship


Resources Mentioned:


Matriarch Rising Festival | Website

The Lighthouse | Website

Radical Birth Keeper School | Website

The MatriBirth Mentor Institute | Website


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