Today on The Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by the legendary Cam Hanes—bowhunter, ultrarunner, lifter of heavy things, and yes, friend of Joe Rogan. We dive into everything from Courtney Dauwalter’s mountain mindset to how Disneyland became a tactical hunting joke with a laser pointer (thanks, Joe).
Cam shares his thoughts on the growing influencer side of trail running, Western States carnage, public lands politics, and what he really thinks about ultrarunning's obsession with science and splits. We talk about grit, quitting, suffering, and why lifting weights is somehow less cool than ultrarunning. Plus: what hunters and trail runners can learn from each other, and why Cam still calls himself an outsider in this space.
If you're into raw takes, wild stories, and the occasional Keep Hoeing joke—this one’s for you. From the Taylor Swift of Ultrarunning, meet Cam Hanes!
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🎧 Episode Chapters
00:00 – Cam Hanes Intro
02:30 – Small Town Ties
05:00 – First Ultra Story
08:20 – Ranking Communities
11:30 – Courtney Dauwalter Talk
14:00 – Love the Process
18:00 – Cocodona Doubts
22:00 – Crew Tricks & COVID
25:30 – Public Lands Rant
30:30 – Rogan Disneyland Story
34:00 – Quitting vs Grit
41:00 – Jeff’s AT Record Goal
46:00 – Western States Opinions
53:00 – Hunting Misconceptions
55:45 – Final Thoughts & Goodbyes
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