July 24, 2025 • 34 mins
Commencing on a journey of self-exploration and personal growth, Jerome Mbaga introduces listeners to the inaugural episode of his podcast, 'Free to Grow'. The discourse is comprised of a rich tapestry of personal anecdotes and reflections that encapsulate his multifaceted life experiences. As a recent high school graduate from St. Michael's College School, with aspirations of pursuing a career in medicine, Jerome candidly shares his tumultuous past, including the challenges of navigating a complex family dynamic marked by trauma. His narrative reveals a profound yearning for freedom from the constraints of his upbringing and a desire to evolve into a more compassionate individual for those around him. The podcast serves as a platform for Jerome to articulate his thoughts, engage in meaningful conversations, and foster connections with his audience, ultimately aiming to inspire others on their personal journeys of growth and self-discovery.
00:00 Introduction
03:30 My history
07:10 What makes me happy
15:10 Why I'm starting a podcast
20:25 Abortion & Suicide
28:57 Decision to live
32:04 Closing
Mark as Played
Transcript
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Hello, I hope you guys are all doing very well on this fine
Thursday. My name is John Baga and welcome
to free to grow. This is my new podcast, my very
first podcast, and I'm really, really, really excited to get to
know all of you, for you guys toget to know me better and for
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this to just be a really, reallyfun and unique ride for both of
us. So a little bit of history on
me. I said before, my name is Droman
Baga. I recently just graduated high
school. I'm from Toronto, Canada, and
now I'm uploading this in July. So it's been about a month since
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I've graduated high school. I'm going to university next
year for medical science. I'm hoping to become a doctor.
And so that's kind of where I'm at right now.
I'm working over the summer right now at a kids day camp,
which is super fun, something I really, really, really enjoy.
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And I have a lot of time on my hands.
I have a lot of time on my handsbeing in school with a lot of
the extracurriculars I did and commitments I had throughout of
the year and just life in general.
I didn't have too much time to start a podcast, but I've always
really, really, really wanted tostart a podcast because I've
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just always had so much to say. Like so much to say.
I'm definitely, definitely a yapper.
But I also, I also loved having conversations with my friends on
a variety of levels about absolutely anything, whether
it's just hearing about their day, what they are up to over
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the weekend, what makes them happy, what they're sad about.
Like I've just always been that like, or at least try to always
been that friend for those around me so they feel
comfortable that they can alwayslike they always have someone to
go talk to. And I love it.
I really love being a listener. And when I get to have those
conversations, like really nice,like late night conversations
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with a friend while we're like grabbing pizza, sitting on a
curb or something, or I'm just laying on a couch on my phone
with one of my buddies, whether that's like I'm sitting on the
beach with my girlfriend and we're just talking.
It's just like that is really what I live for.
Or especially around campfires, that's really what I live for.
So you could tell I like talking.
And so that's why I'm here starting a podcast.
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And when I went about this journey, I think I like, I
really, really committed to starting a podcast.
Now in this point in time, about2-3 weeks ago, I was really
scared and confused on what to call it because I just had no
clue where to start. And I also didn't really have a
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niche that I could like yap on about every single week.
I'm not that into like one particular thing, which I think
is something I, I like, but alsosomething that I could see
myself getting into as well. So yeah, that's why I called it
free to grow. I felt that had like a lot of
freedom in the decisions. I of like what I get to talk
about. I felt that it really
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encapsulates what I'm trying to do.
I'm just trying to grow into a better human and a better person
for those that people like around me.
So basically, I love talking andI've always felt misunderstood
in throughout my life because I come from a very, very, very
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traumatic family history and childhood.
So about seven months ago, I ranaway from home.
I emotionally had left my house,let's say some odd like 12 years
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ago, but physically leaving my house and leaving what was under
the care of my mom. That happened seven months ago.
It was during school, right around my birthday.
I was 16 years old at the time. Now I'm 17, but I'm turning 18.
But it was like in October, and that was very, very, very rough.
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I had no clue what to do. I just knew something had to
change because it was coming from a place where my home life
was really affecting my life at school, which is like the worst
end game for me ever. I just wasn't eating at all
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because there wasn't food available.
I just wasn't coming back to a warm, welcoming space.
And it was just, it was a dangerous environment to be in,
let's put it that way. And so you can tell that I'm one
for making big leaps, big leaps into something.
And so it was really scary at first.
There was some nights where there wasn't a place to stay for
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sure, but for majority of the nights I leaned on my friends,
my closest friends around me that have been my guiding
support to the entirety of me. Knowing them, I slept at a lot
of their houses for extended periods of time, whether that be
like one day or a month, two months.
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And then especially she's she's also my friend, but my
girlfriend as well. I leaned on her.
I say the most as I live with her, I live with my girlfriend,
which is I feel like every teenage relationship's dream or
maybe nightmare once they reallymove in.
But I've been living with my girlfriend for the past like
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officially moved in in like February, but I was in and out
since I want to say December, solet's just call it let's let's
call it six months. I'm, no, I'm not smiling.
Let's just call it six or seven months.
And I pushed through. I was, I didn't really have the
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time to start something like this, like a podcast then
because I was just really scaredon how I'm going to get to go to
university because I love learning.
And so that's where I was at. I was, I was terrified.
But luckily I have amazing friends, an amazing girlfriend.
This is like a friend group I'vebeen with for years and I've
been dating my girlfriend for coming up on two years and a
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month Fish. And so that's a little bit about
me. I know that sounds like a lot
and definitely drama dumping, but that's literally what a
podcast is for because it's mine.
But I don't want this podcast necessarily be all serious.
There definitely will be sometimes where I will go into a
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topic and be like, whoa, I did not know this about Jerome.
Whether you like you know me in real life or this is the first
time you're meeting me. But yeah, there's just a lot of
stuff going on in my life all the time.
So let's move on to a bit of a lighter topic and talk about
what makes me happy. So I'll start off by listing
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some hobbies. I love my hobbies.
I definitely come from a crazy life, but somehow through like
an infinite amount of people that have helped me.
Well, whether it's through financial aid, emotional
support, physical support in my journey, it's just like amazing.
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ANYWAYS, I'm a huge camping dudeslash canoe tripping dude.
I've been going to this one campcalled Camp Candelor.
Best camp in the world. If your parents and your kids
there, if you're my age, work there next summer.
If you are there right now, amazing.
I'm jealous. But amazing, amazing, amazing
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place. And it's really my home.
It's definitely the place I've, it's definitely the place I've
been in the longest because I'vestarted going to Camp Candor
when I was I think four or five,maybe 6, I don't know, four or
five or six. And I went back basically every
single summer since then. I think there was one or two
summers I missed since then, butfrom 5 or 6 years old until 16
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years old, I was at Camp Candor and it was spectacular.
I just grew so much as a person.I learned to love outdoors,
which I think is a bit of a rarity amongst, well, I wouldn't
say now, but maybe the next generation of kids.
So I'm very happy that I learnedto like appreciate outdoors and
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love it. It's like amazing.
Anyways, moving on. I love canoe trips and camping
because I get to be weird. I get to be outside and I get to
be a part of the team and that'slike everything I love.
Next, I really like singing, dancing and acting.
Some people know this. If you look at my Instagram,
you'll definitely figure that one out because I have a lot of
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posts of me like singing, I think 3 or 4, who knows.
Anyways, I try my school's musical this year, Foot Loose.
Amazing. We'll do it again a billion
times over. My music teacher, Mr. Ode,
actually wanted me to join in like grade like seven, grade 8.
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He was like Jerome join, Jerome join.
And I can never really explain that.
I just never, I didn't have the time to do that because I just,
life was exploding in front of my face.
I I joining a musical and like committing myself to hours of
rehearsal every single day, which is not a possibility.
But if I'm going to be more honest, I was scared.
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I was very scared about how my peers were going to look at me
and get me as like kind of a theater kid, which I probably am
now. I'm not like a super theater
kid, No disrespect to theater kids, but I was really scared of
how my peers were going to look at me and kind of lose that like
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alpha male personality kind of thing.
Like what's this dude doing jumping and skipping around in a
cowboy? Gosh, I'm on stage.
But it was so fun. It was so fun.
I'm really happy that I got to join it in the last year of
Grade 12. I made so many friends that I
value so much and will always value so much, and just the
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experience of throwing myself there on stage with my crewmates
was just impeccable and amazing.This was also not the first time
I did that. I danced for around 10 years
when I was growing up at a danceschool called the Randolph.
I did jazz, ballet, tap, hip hop, acro, triple threat, whole
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shebang. So I've been in that space for a
long time. But even then I was pretty
scared. But I was a lot less scared
because no one in my school really knew I was doing it.
I was kind of just doing it. And also it wasn't when I
transferred to my high school. Like I went to the school from
high school and high school was an all boy school.
I kind of stopped when I went into that school, not because of
it, but because of COVID. COVID hit when I entered grade
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7, which is when I transferred to the school.
It's called St. Michael's called School, AKA St.
Mike's. But yeah, I kind of stopped
doing it then because COVID stopped for a year.
I kind of just never went back because I was scared about my
peers were going to look at me. But I also did acting at this
place called the YPT Young People's Theaters for also 10
years where I took a bunch of acting classes.
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We do like a end of the year show kind of thing.
Nothing insane, but it was it was cool.
And so yeah, third, I love MollyUN and Debating.
Love it, Love it, love it. Pretty much all to say, there I
was walking the hall one day in Grade 7 in this random Grade 12
dude walked up to me and said, yo, you little kid, do you like
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to debate and talk? And I was like, I think so.
He was like, all right, come in here.
Yeah. I thought I was getting
kidnapped, but it's OK because it was just my school hallway.
And that's how I drama you in huge, huge, huge part of who I
am today. Not in just the fact that like I
like to debate, but also just inmy confidence as a public
speaker. My confidence to like put myself
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out here in front of all you guys.
My confidence to put myself out there on the stage by the
musical, but also just shaping my values as a person.
Because I became a lot, a lot, alot more aware of the situation
of the world, how different people experience life, which is
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just a a really good thought, but also terrifying thought.
And so yeah, it just made me more aware of the world in
general. There's still definitely tons I
have to learn, but I would consider myself somewhat aware
of the situation of the world and where my moral compass lies
kind of thing. I also short note, I love
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biology, which is why I'm hopingto become a doctor.
I just find it so cool. There's a fire truck outside.
That's not good. Oops.
Anyways, I don't know if you guys can hear that.
Anyways I love biology because it just like makes my head
explode with questions and I love it.
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I love watching anime. That's my 4th one anime.
Don't troll me, don't hang up the episode right now.
I promise I'm not going to startdoing anything crazy or
abnormal. I only do that around my
friends, don't worry. Yeah well you guys are my
friends but I only do their own close group of friends.
My girlfriend, don't worry. I can get really weird but I
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love anime. My favorite 1 is probably One
Piece, which people criticize because it's too long.
It's like 1000 and something episodes.
I love it. I'm caught up but I watch a ton
of anime and Attack on Titan is probably my favorite.
Please go watch Talk on Titan please.
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If you know me in real life, you've probably heard me say go
watch Talk on Titan to you. And if I brought it up once to
you, I probably repeated it to your face like every single day.
So one more time, go watch Talk on Titan please.
And lastly, I'll go the 5th or maybe that's 6th 1, I don't
know. I love listening to music.
My favorite artist is Kendrick Lamar, which I somehow got to be
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able to see it live because my girlfriend's parents bought his
tickets. I loved how the creator Zac
Bryan Country and The Beatles, that's probably my favorite.
And so that's kind of like a maybe like all my hobbies and
interests can kind of give you abetter picture of who I am,
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whether or not you know me in real life, depending how well
you know me in real life kind ofthing.
But I'm also starting this podcast because I want to be a
better person to those in my life.
And so circling back real quick,I talked about in the beginning
how I was struggling on finding a name for the podcast and
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starting because everyone was like, oh, you have to have an
issue. You have to have an issue.
And I was like, I'm not going tosit here and yap a bam all day.
I'm not going to sit here and yap a boat.
Like come on, you went all day or camping or anything because
I'm not like a not like a camping God.
But I came across this one videowhere the lady said don't wait
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so long to start a podcast because you don't have a niche
to start yet. You are your niche.
And that just like blew my mind up.
I was just watching on YouTube and I was like, OK, OK, you
spitting because I think I have a very well, I have a very
unique life, but everyone has a very unique life because every
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life is unique. It's my life is my life is
crazy. But relative to a lot of other
people, it might not be that crazy, but it is.
It is pretty crazy, I'd say. But besides the craziness, just
the person I've shaped myself into become now and the person I
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envisioned for myself and all ofthe journeys that I'm not sure
which journeys I'm going to haveto take to get there.
I just know they're going to be a lot of them and they're going
to be a lot of fun ones. And so I was like, bang, that's
the niche. Drum and Baga.
Drum and baga is the niche. And so I'm trying to keep it as
open and as possible free to grow.
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This podcast is free to grow into whatever it can be, but I'm
also free to grow into whatever I would like to be.
And you guys are going to be a part of that journey.
And hopefully by listening to methat can help you in your
journey into growing in the person, growing into the person
you would like to become. So I'm sure you will find this
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podcast very, very, very relatable.
Circling back now because I often have a relationship or
trait that's relatable to a lot of other people, meaning I've
been a child, but I've also beenan parental role with some of my
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siblings, which is kind of complicated to navigate.
I wouldn't say like a full parental role, but like there's
a parental role of my siblings also more a parental role of
myself. So I've been a child and I've
also been acting someone as a parent.
I've been a brother because I have four older siblings, two
sisters, two brothers, love themto death.
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They are amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing
people. And I've been a good sibling to
them and I've been a bad siblingto them.
There's a lot of room for improvement there, but they're
still amazing. And I, I think I'm pretty OK.
I've been like a full sibling because two of them are my
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siblings. I'm full siblings with them,
then my brothers. I don't even know what the word
is for it. It's also confusing, like the
difference between half and step.
I don't even know, but I've beenthere too.
I've been an exemplary child where parents like, Oh my gosh,
look at you and me so amazing. And then I've also been like the
absolute worst parents nightmare.
If you were to ask my mom or maybe my dad, I've been a good
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boyfriend to my girlfriend and I've been a bad boyfriend.
I've been, I've not, I'm not saying me personally, but I've
lived lifestyles that I would say are rich due to me living
with some friends that are wealthily inclined.
I've been very rich and I've also been very poor.
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I've been homeless, I've been starving.
I've been like, just like like poor, very poor.
I've been the smart kid in classand I've also been the class
clown or the dumpkin. Sometimes those are different.
I've been very introverted in points of my life and I've been
very extroverted in points of mylife.
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I've been a people pleaser and I've been a bully.
I've been happy go lucky kind ofdude and I've been insanely
depressed in points of my life. And so I Oh yeah, I've also been
a very non athletic person and recently now I've been somewhat
of a athletic person. So you get what I'm saying.
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I just have a lot of different traits either right now or in
different points of my life thataren't too far off from now that
are relatable to a lot of different type of people.
So I'm not necessarily gearing this to one specific person or
demographic. I'm going to guarantee to
everybody I want it to be. People my age, I want to be
their parents, I want to be my old teachers, my teachers next
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to like anybody who wants to listen, males, females,
whatever. I don't care because we are all
free to grow into whatever we would like to be.
And so that's what I hope this podcast to be.
However, among all those traits and relationships and life
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positions that I just listed, people have often told me
sometimes that there is something special about me.
And I do not mean that in any cocky way whatsoever.
And I can't mean that in any cocky way because I don't know
what it is. I've no clue what it is.
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And I promise you, I'm not trying to be cocky at all.
I think everyone is special and I always try to be see like the
best in every single person I can meet and all that kind of
stuff. But I think I've come to know
that of when someone says that to me, I think all they mean is
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they can see that I'm in pursuitof something.
I have this kind of, I wasn't aware that I show it out loud,
but I have this sense to me thatI'm kind of always moving and
sometimes that can be a bad thing as well as that could be a
good thing. That could be a bad thing
because I'm used to always moving in kind of like a
fighters for survive kind of thing.
But I think it's starting to positively translate into moving
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towards my goals and chasing a better version of myself
constantly. And so I narrowed it down to a
very, very, very dark point in my life.
So before I say that, people arelike, OK, well, yeah, you're in
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the pursuit of something. Everyone's in the pursuit of
something. Everyone has like, some big
goal. OK.
But then I was thinking, OK, to narrow down to what it is.
I had to find out where it started.
People are like, oh, they start when you're born wrong.
My birth started weird right offthe bat because before I was
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even born my dad, bad dude, tried to convince my mom to have
an abortion and she did not accept it for a long time and
then eventually she did and you must be thinking, well she got
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an abortion. True.
How are you here? What?
This doesn't make sense. The math is not matting up.
Well, that is because it failed and so it failed.
And here you are listening to some Random deeds podcast in
2025. So that's where I started off
from. And I just lived like a life of
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extreme, I'd say depression and confusion because I, I, and I
think I was, I was right to, because I just didn't know what
the, what was going on. So throughout my childhood, I
moved around a ton, like a ton, a ton, a ton all over the map.
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But I found a home in my school and I'd say St.
Michael's College school was definitely a huge part of my
life that I'm forever and dead for because I found a huge,
huge, huge community of people that were so willing to support
me and guide me throughout my journey.
They didn't even know my journey, a lot of them, but so
willing to guide me through it, which is why I'm here today
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because I really, really, reallyloved that school.
So it came to a point where I think it was Grade 9, if I'm
estimating correctly. Grade 9, yes.
Grade 9. I want to say this is Grade 9.
I think this was January. I don't know.
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I think it was January. I think.
So Grade 9, January Hong comes up to me and she's like, yeah,
me and your dad are getting a divorce.
They had been divorced from like, like, like, like the
marriage was like over from before I he was even born
really. But he was still living in the
house. And there was just so much stuff
going on where it's just like, how did that last like 10 years?
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Or like how you like, commit divorce for 10 years and still
living in the same house and still, like, I don't know, hold
your bangle anyways. And she was like, yeah, we're
going to have to move. And I was like, hell no.
That was like the worst sentenceI could ever hear ever because
everywhere I moved, I still wentto the same school.
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So I was like, no, I can't lose my school.
I can't lose my friends. I can't lose science class.
I can't lose biology. I can't, I can't lose my UNI,
can't lose like the music program at the school.
And that would even sometimes like potentially mean I was
going to lose my camp too. And I was like, no, I can't.
That's like, that was the only thing I had going, the only
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thing that was keeping me up. And so we went to the town.
Town's called Coburg. It's in Ontario, Canada.
If you live in Coburg, I'm sorryif this offends you.
I hope not. Hopefully you're a really great
person. But anyways, we're going to
Coburg for open house for the school there.
Forgot the name. It's like, I don't know one of
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one schools in the town or one of two, I don't know.
And I was the only black person there.
And they were very racist. I was walking in the hall and
they were just like parting likethe Red Sea when I was in there.
I think for a lot of the children of the first time
seeing black person ever. And just like I'd hear comments
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like, I was just like walking inthe hall, just like, look at the
school. And they were like, oh, it
smells like fried chicken. I was like, whoa, crazy out of
left field there. Whoa.
And so I am relieving the open house.
And I was like, wow. I thought maybe like even maybe
even if I was going to move it would it be it'd be to somewhere
that like I can maybe start overmaybe or even like it'd be
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somewhat bearable. But I was like this, this is
infinitely worse. And so we left the school and we
went back to like this little house that we were staying in.
It was like one of my mom's. I don't even know she was
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renting out like this. Like it's like a loft kind of
above a garage. It's like an apartment above
their garage and they live in a farm.
So basically we're renting out attic kind of on a on a farm.
Really weird. Anyways, we went back there
after school showing and I said I'm going to go on a walk.
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Before I left, I went to the kitchen, which was very small.
This place was very small. It was an attic.
Anyways, I went to the kitchen and I took a knife from the
drawer. Don't get too worked up here
because obviously I'm still here.
But anyways, I left and I walkeddown this dirt Rd. in forest for
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a very long time until I came upon until I walked off the dirt
Rd. into the forest like foliage.
And I came to this spot dead in the middle of the forest.
There was snow on the ground. I remember it.
I was freezing. I had the knife in my hand and I
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was ready to commit suicide at that moment.
And that was a very, very, very dark place in my life.
I'd, I'd been in that dark placefor about a year, then maybe
even more. Well, I've been in that dark
place for the entirety of my life, but like really dark for
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about a year there. But I just kind of bring myself
to do it. Thank God.
Thank God I couldn't. So I took the knife, poked one
of my fingers. It was this finger.
I poked a dot in this finger so I could remember, took the knife
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and I chucked it as far as I could, watching before all this
happened, when I was going to commit suicide.
I just remember crying. It's like bawling on my knees in
the snow. No one was there at all.
Like this was like a really, really, really room up place
around like this random forest and I'm just crying and crying
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and crying. But I couldn't because what
glimpsed in my mind was my school.
So I'm just called school and the teachers I had there and the
clubs and activities I had there.
And so I, I just couldn't. And so I threw the knife into
the forest and I made my way back.
And here we are. After that, I basically moved
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out. I was like, well, screw this,
I'm not moving here. I texted one of my friends.
I won't say his name because maybe he wants his own privacy.
Texted one of his, my friends. And I was like, you know, this
is random, but can I live with you?
He texted me back later that day.
He was like, yeah, when I was myparents, I moved in with him for
a year. A lot of stuff happens between
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that time and we'll get into that later.
But it was in that moment when Iwas in the forest and I was
crying on the ground about to kill myself, where I was fed up
with, I was fed up with being chained down with my life
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situation. And I was, I was fed up of being
deprived from the life that I wanted and the, the, the passion
I wanted to put into my life andthe kindness I wanted to give.
I was, I was just so fed up withit all that I, I knew it
couldn't be there. And So what I'm in pursuit of is
freedom. I'm in pursuit of freedom.
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I'm in pursuit of freedom from everyday's life challenges, the
huge challenges that life alwaysthrows in front of me, and
freedom from like my own negative human side.
I'd say that we all have, but I think that's also just part of
being human. But I'm also trying to create
and look for freedom with my time, whether that be like
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hanging out with certain people,investing in like hobbies that I
enjoy and going places that I enjoy and not working like a
miserable job and anything. But that's kind of unavoidable
freedom with my money, which means spending your
responsibility for myself, whichI can also share with you guys
how I do that. And freedom with my emotions, my
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freedom to give passion to everything that I want to do and
like, don't have to care about how everyone else is looking at
me or how I'm supposed to act aslike a child or as a male or any
of that stuff kind of thing. And so I'm trying my best to do
that. Bye.
Having as many different types of friends as possible.
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So I'm going to expose myself toall the possibilities of like
who I can become kind of thing. Try as many hobbies as I can,
travel as much as I can. I'm extremely broke, so that
one's kind of not really there. It's a work in progress and I'm
trying to stay healthy, which issomething I honestly want to
improve on more and I want to beconsistent with more and living
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that Yolo life, however kind that sounds.
This is Yolo right now. I really only live once so it's
no reason why I shouldn't document it.
I'm going to wrap up there, but thank you so much for tuning in
to Free to Grow. I'm sure this is going to be an
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Maybe I am terrified because I have no clue what's coming next.
I have so much to improve on as a person that I want to improve
on. And I'm a little scared of how
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like people are going to view mefor this podcast if I'm going to
be so real, but I'm not actuallyreally.
But there's always like a fair amount.
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Tell me to me in person. I don't know.
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yours and see you next Thursday.Thank you, crew.
Bye.
Hello, I hope you guys are all doing very well on this fine
Thursday. My name is John Baga and welcome
to free to grow. This is my new podcast, my very
first podcast, and I'm really, really, really excited to get to
know all of you, for you guys toget to know me better and for
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this to just be a really, reallyfun and unique ride for both of
us. So a little bit of history on
me. I said before, my name is Droman
Baga. I recently just graduated high
school. I'm from Toronto, Canada, and
now I'm uploading this in July. So it's been about a month since
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I've graduated high school. I'm going to university next
year for medical science. I'm hoping to become a doctor.
And so that's kind of where I'm at right now.
I'm working over the summer right now at a kids day camp,
which is super fun, something I really, really, really enjoy.
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And I have a lot of time on my hands.
I have a lot of time on my handsbeing in school with a lot of
the extracurriculars I did and commitments I had throughout of
the year and just life in general.
I didn't have too much time to start a podcast, but I've always
really, really, really wanted tostart a podcast because I've
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just always had so much to say. Like so much to say.
I'm definitely, definitely a yapper.
But I also, I also loved having conversations with my friends on
a variety of levels about absolutely anything, whether
it's just hearing about their day, what they are up to over
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the weekend, what makes them happy, what they're sad about.
Like I've just always been that like, or at least try to always
been that friend for those around me so they feel
comfortable that they can alwayslike they always have someone to
go talk to. And I love it.
I really love being a listener. And when I get to have those
conversations, like really nice,like late night conversations
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with a friend while we're like grabbing pizza, sitting on a
curb or something, or I'm just laying on a couch on my phone
with one of my buddies, whether that's like I'm sitting on the
beach with my girlfriend and we're just talking.
It's just like that is really what I live for.
Or especially around campfires, that's really what I live for.
So you could tell I like talking.
And so that's why I'm here starting a podcast.
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And when I went about this journey, I think I like, I
really, really committed to starting a podcast.
Now in this point in time, about2-3 weeks ago, I was really
scared and confused on what to call it because I just had no
clue where to start. And I also didn't really have a
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niche that I could like yap on about every single week.
I'm not that into like one particular thing, which I think
is something I, I like, but alsosomething that I could see
myself getting into as well. So yeah, that's why I called it
free to grow. I felt that had like a lot of
freedom in the decisions. I of like what I get to talk
about. I felt that it really
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encapsulates what I'm trying to do.
I'm just trying to grow into a better human and a better person
for those that people like around me.
So basically, I love talking andI've always felt misunderstood
in throughout my life because I come from a very, very, very
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traumatic family history and childhood.
So about seven months ago, I ranaway from home.
I emotionally had left my house,let's say some odd like 12 years
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ago, but physically leaving my house and leaving what was under
the care of my mom. That happened seven months ago.
It was during school, right around my birthday.
I was 16 years old at the time. Now I'm 17, but I'm turning 18.
But it was like in October, and that was very, very, very rough.
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I had no clue what to do. I just knew something had to
change because it was coming from a place where my home life
was really affecting my life at school, which is like the worst
end game for me ever. I just wasn't eating at all
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because there wasn't food available.
I just wasn't coming back to a warm, welcoming space.
And it was just, it was a dangerous environment to be in,
let's put it that way. And so you can tell that I'm one
for making big leaps, big leaps into something.
And so it was really scary at first.
There was some nights where there wasn't a place to stay for
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sure, but for majority of the nights I leaned on my friends,
my closest friends around me that have been my guiding
support to the entirety of me. Knowing them, I slept at a lot
of their houses for extended periods of time, whether that be
like one day or a month, two months.
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And then especially she's she's also my friend, but my
girlfriend as well. I leaned on her.
I say the most as I live with her, I live with my girlfriend,
which is I feel like every teenage relationship's dream or
maybe nightmare once they reallymove in.
But I've been living with my girlfriend for the past like
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officially moved in in like February, but I was in and out
since I want to say December, solet's just call it let's let's
call it six months. I'm, no, I'm not smiling.
Let's just call it six or seven months.
And I pushed through. I was, I didn't really have the
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time to start something like this, like a podcast then
because I was just really scaredon how I'm going to get to go to
university because I love learning.
And so that's where I was at. I was, I was terrified.
But luckily I have amazing friends, an amazing girlfriend.
This is like a friend group I'vebeen with for years and I've
been dating my girlfriend for coming up on two years and a
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month Fish. And so that's a little bit about
me. I know that sounds like a lot
and definitely drama dumping, but that's literally what a
podcast is for because it's mine.
But I don't want this podcast necessarily be all serious.
There definitely will be sometimes where I will go into a
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topic and be like, whoa, I did not know this about Jerome.
Whether you like you know me in real life or this is the first
time you're meeting me. But yeah, there's just a lot of
stuff going on in my life all the time.
So let's move on to a bit of a lighter topic and talk about
what makes me happy. So I'll start off by listing
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some hobbies. I love my hobbies.
I definitely come from a crazy life, but somehow through like
an infinite amount of people that have helped me.
Well, whether it's through financial aid, emotional
support, physical support in my journey, it's just like amazing.
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ANYWAYS, I'm a huge camping dudeslash canoe tripping dude.
I've been going to this one campcalled Camp Candelor.
Best camp in the world. If your parents and your kids
there, if you're my age, work there next summer.
If you are there right now, amazing.
I'm jealous. But amazing, amazing, amazing
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place. And it's really my home.
It's definitely the place I've, it's definitely the place I've
been in the longest because I'vestarted going to Camp Candor
when I was I think four or five,maybe 6, I don't know, four or
five or six. And I went back basically every
single summer since then. I think there was one or two
summers I missed since then, butfrom 5 or 6 years old until 16
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years old, I was at Camp Candor and it was spectacular.
I just grew so much as a person.I learned to love outdoors,
which I think is a bit of a rarity amongst, well, I wouldn't
say now, but maybe the next generation of kids.
So I'm very happy that I learnedto like appreciate outdoors and
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love it. It's like amazing.
Anyways, moving on. I love canoe trips and camping
because I get to be weird. I get to be outside and I get to
be a part of the team and that'slike everything I love.
Next, I really like singing, dancing and acting.
Some people know this. If you look at my Instagram,
you'll definitely figure that one out because I have a lot of
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posts of me like singing, I think 3 or 4, who knows.
Anyways, I try my school's musical this year, Foot Loose.
Amazing. We'll do it again a billion
times over. My music teacher, Mr. Ode,
actually wanted me to join in like grade like seven, grade 8.
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He was like Jerome join, Jerome join.
And I can never really explain that.
I just never, I didn't have the time to do that because I just,
life was exploding in front of my face.
I I joining a musical and like committing myself to hours of
rehearsal every single day, which is not a possibility.
But if I'm going to be more honest, I was scared.
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I was very scared about how my peers were going to look at me
and get me as like kind of a theater kid, which I probably am
now. I'm not like a super theater
kid, No disrespect to theater kids, but I was really scared of
how my peers were going to look at me and kind of lose that like
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alpha male personality kind of thing.
Like what's this dude doing jumping and skipping around in a
cowboy? Gosh, I'm on stage.
But it was so fun. It was so fun.
I'm really happy that I got to join it in the last year of
Grade 12. I made so many friends that I
value so much and will always value so much, and just the
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experience of throwing myself there on stage with my crewmates
was just impeccable and amazing.This was also not the first time
I did that. I danced for around 10 years
when I was growing up at a danceschool called the Randolph.
I did jazz, ballet, tap, hip hop, acro, triple threat, whole
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shebang. So I've been in that space for a
long time. But even then I was pretty
scared. But I was a lot less scared
because no one in my school really knew I was doing it.
I was kind of just doing it. And also it wasn't when I
transferred to my high school. Like I went to the school from
high school and high school was an all boy school.
I kind of stopped when I went into that school, not because of
it, but because of COVID. COVID hit when I entered grade
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7, which is when I transferred to the school.
It's called St. Michael's called School, AKA St.
Mike's. But yeah, I kind of stopped
doing it then because COVID stopped for a year.
I kind of just never went back because I was scared about my
peers were going to look at me. But I also did acting at this
place called the YPT Young People's Theaters for also 10
years where I took a bunch of acting classes.
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We do like a end of the year show kind of thing.
Nothing insane, but it was it was cool.
And so yeah, third, I love MollyUN and Debating.
Love it, Love it, love it. Pretty much all to say, there I
was walking the hall one day in Grade 7 in this random Grade 12
dude walked up to me and said, yo, you little kid, do you like
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to debate and talk? And I was like, I think so.
He was like, all right, come in here.
Yeah. I thought I was getting
kidnapped, but it's OK because it was just my school hallway.
And that's how I drama you in huge, huge, huge part of who I
am today. Not in just the fact that like I
like to debate, but also just inmy confidence as a public
speaker. My confidence to like put myself
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out here in front of all you guys.
My confidence to put myself out there on the stage by the
musical, but also just shaping my values as a person.
Because I became a lot, a lot, alot more aware of the situation
of the world, how different people experience life, which is
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just a a really good thought, but also terrifying thought.
And so yeah, it just made me more aware of the world in
general. There's still definitely tons I
have to learn, but I would consider myself somewhat aware
of the situation of the world and where my moral compass lies
kind of thing. I also short note, I love
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biology, which is why I'm hopingto become a doctor.
I just find it so cool. There's a fire truck outside.
That's not good. Oops.
Anyways, I don't know if you guys can hear that.
Anyways I love biology because it just like makes my head
explode with questions and I love it.
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I love watching anime. That's my 4th one anime.
Don't troll me, don't hang up the episode right now.
I promise I'm not going to startdoing anything crazy or
abnormal. I only do that around my
friends, don't worry. Yeah well you guys are my
friends but I only do their own close group of friends.
My girlfriend, don't worry. I can get really weird but I
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love anime. My favorite 1 is probably One
Piece, which people criticize because it's too long.
It's like 1000 and something episodes.
I love it. I'm caught up but I watch a ton
of anime and Attack on Titan is probably my favorite.
Please go watch Talk on Titan please.
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If you know me in real life, you've probably heard me say go
watch Talk on Titan to you. And if I brought it up once to
you, I probably repeated it to your face like every single day.
So one more time, go watch Talk on Titan please.
And lastly, I'll go the 5th or maybe that's 6th 1, I don't
know. I love listening to music.
My favorite artist is Kendrick Lamar, which I somehow got to be
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able to see it live because my girlfriend's parents bought his
tickets. I loved how the creator Zac
Bryan Country and The Beatles, that's probably my favorite.
And so that's kind of like a maybe like all my hobbies and
interests can kind of give you abetter picture of who I am,
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whether or not you know me in real life, depending how well
you know me in real life kind ofthing.
But I'm also starting this podcast because I want to be a
better person to those in my life.
And so circling back real quick,I talked about in the beginning
how I was struggling on finding a name for the podcast and
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starting because everyone was like, oh, you have to have an
issue. You have to have an issue.
And I was like, I'm not going tosit here and yap a bam all day.
I'm not going to sit here and yap a boat.
Like come on, you went all day or camping or anything because
I'm not like a not like a camping God.
But I came across this one videowhere the lady said don't wait
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so long to start a podcast because you don't have a niche
to start yet. You are your niche.
And that just like blew my mind up.
I was just watching on YouTube and I was like, OK, OK, you
spitting because I think I have a very well, I have a very
unique life, but everyone has a very unique life because every
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life is unique. It's my life is my life is
crazy. But relative to a lot of other
people, it might not be that crazy, but it is.
It is pretty crazy, I'd say. But besides the craziness, just
the person I've shaped myself into become now and the person I
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envisioned for myself and all ofthe journeys that I'm not sure
which journeys I'm going to haveto take to get there.
I just know they're going to be a lot of them and they're going
to be a lot of fun ones. And so I was like, bang, that's
the niche. Drum and Baga.
Drum and baga is the niche. And so I'm trying to keep it as
open and as possible free to grow.
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This podcast is free to grow into whatever it can be, but I'm
also free to grow into whatever I would like to be.
And you guys are going to be a part of that journey.
And hopefully by listening to methat can help you in your
journey into growing in the person, growing into the person
you would like to become. So I'm sure you will find this
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podcast very, very, very relatable.
Circling back now because I often have a relationship or
trait that's relatable to a lot of other people, meaning I've
been a child, but I've also beenan parental role with some of my
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siblings, which is kind of complicated to navigate.
I wouldn't say like a full parental role, but like there's
a parental role of my siblings also more a parental role of
myself. So I've been a child and I've
also been acting someone as a parent.
I've been a brother because I have four older siblings, two
sisters, two brothers, love themto death.
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They are amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing
people. And I've been a good sibling to
them and I've been a bad siblingto them.
There's a lot of room for improvement there, but they're
still amazing. And I, I think I'm pretty OK.
I've been like a full sibling because two of them are my
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siblings. I'm full siblings with them,
then my brothers. I don't even know what the word
is for it. It's also confusing, like the
difference between half and step.
I don't even know, but I've beenthere too.
I've been an exemplary child where parents like, Oh my gosh,
look at you and me so amazing. And then I've also been like the
absolute worst parents nightmare.
If you were to ask my mom or maybe my dad, I've been a good
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boyfriend to my girlfriend and I've been a bad boyfriend.
I've been, I've not, I'm not saying me personally, but I've
lived lifestyles that I would say are rich due to me living
with some friends that are wealthily inclined.
I've been very rich and I've also been very poor.
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I've been homeless, I've been starving.
I've been like, just like like poor, very poor.
I've been the smart kid in classand I've also been the class
clown or the dumpkin. Sometimes those are different.
I've been very introverted in points of my life and I've been
very extroverted in points of mylife.
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I've been a people pleaser and I've been a bully.
I've been happy go lucky kind ofdude and I've been insanely
depressed in points of my life. And so I Oh yeah, I've also been
a very non athletic person and recently now I've been somewhat
of a athletic person. So you get what I'm saying.
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I just have a lot of different traits either right now or in
different points of my life thataren't too far off from now that
are relatable to a lot of different type of people.
So I'm not necessarily gearing this to one specific person or
demographic. I'm going to guarantee to
everybody I want it to be. People my age, I want to be
their parents, I want to be my old teachers, my teachers next
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to like anybody who wants to listen, males, females,
whatever. I don't care because we are all
free to grow into whatever we would like to be.
And so that's what I hope this podcast to be.
However, among all those traits and relationships and life
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positions that I just listed, people have often told me
sometimes that there is something special about me.
And I do not mean that in any cocky way whatsoever.
And I can't mean that in any cocky way because I don't know
what it is. I've no clue what it is.
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And I promise you, I'm not trying to be cocky at all.
I think everyone is special and I always try to be see like the
best in every single person I can meet and all that kind of
stuff. But I think I've come to know
that of when someone says that to me, I think all they mean is
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they can see that I'm in pursuitof something.
I have this kind of, I wasn't aware that I show it out loud,
but I have this sense to me thatI'm kind of always moving and
sometimes that can be a bad thing as well as that could be a
good thing. That could be a bad thing
because I'm used to always moving in kind of like a
fighters for survive kind of thing.
But I think it's starting to positively translate into moving
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towards my goals and chasing a better version of myself
constantly. And so I narrowed it down to a
very, very, very dark point in my life.
So before I say that, people arelike, OK, well, yeah, you're in
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the pursuit of something. Everyone's in the pursuit of
something. Everyone has like, some big
goal. OK.
But then I was thinking, OK, to narrow down to what it is.
I had to find out where it started.
People are like, oh, they start when you're born wrong.
My birth started weird right offthe bat because before I was
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even born my dad, bad dude, tried to convince my mom to have
an abortion and she did not accept it for a long time and
then eventually she did and you must be thinking, well she got
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an abortion. True.
How are you here? What?
This doesn't make sense. The math is not matting up.
Well, that is because it failed and so it failed.
And here you are listening to some Random deeds podcast in
2025. So that's where I started off
from. And I just lived like a life of
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extreme, I'd say depression and confusion because I, I, and I
think I was, I was right to, because I just didn't know what
the, what was going on. So throughout my childhood, I
moved around a ton, like a ton, a ton, a ton all over the map.
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But I found a home in my school and I'd say St.
Michael's College school was definitely a huge part of my
life that I'm forever and dead for because I found a huge,
huge, huge community of people that were so willing to support
me and guide me throughout my journey.
They didn't even know my journey, a lot of them, but so
willing to guide me through it, which is why I'm here today
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because I really, really, reallyloved that school.
So it came to a point where I think it was Grade 9, if I'm
estimating correctly. Grade 9, yes.
Grade 9. I want to say this is Grade 9.
I think this was January. I don't know.
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I think it was January. I think.
So Grade 9, January Hong comes up to me and she's like, yeah,
me and your dad are getting a divorce.
They had been divorced from like, like, like, like the
marriage was like over from before I he was even born
really. But he was still living in the
house. And there was just so much stuff
going on where it's just like, how did that last like 10 years?
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Or like how you like, commit divorce for 10 years and still
living in the same house and still, like, I don't know, hold
your bangle anyways. And she was like, yeah, we're
going to have to move. And I was like, hell no.
That was like the worst sentenceI could ever hear ever because
everywhere I moved, I still wentto the same school.
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So I was like, no, I can't lose my school.
I can't lose my friends. I can't lose science class.
I can't lose biology. I can't, I can't lose my UNI,
can't lose like the music program at the school.
And that would even sometimes like potentially mean I was
going to lose my camp too. And I was like, no, I can't.
That's like, that was the only thing I had going, the only
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thing that was keeping me up. And so we went to the town.
Town's called Coburg. It's in Ontario, Canada.
If you live in Coburg, I'm sorryif this offends you.
I hope not. Hopefully you're a really great
person. But anyways, we're going to
Coburg for open house for the school there.
Forgot the name. It's like, I don't know one of
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one schools in the town or one of two, I don't know.
And I was the only black person there.
And they were very racist. I was walking in the hall and
they were just like parting likethe Red Sea when I was in there.
I think for a lot of the children of the first time
seeing black person ever. And just like I'd hear comments
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like, I was just like walking inthe hall, just like, look at the
school. And they were like, oh, it
smells like fried chicken. I was like, whoa, crazy out of
left field there. Whoa.
And so I am relieving the open house.
And I was like, wow. I thought maybe like even maybe
even if I was going to move it would it be it'd be to somewhere
that like I can maybe start overmaybe or even like it'd be
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somewhat bearable. But I was like this, this is
infinitely worse. And so we left the school and we
went back to like this little house that we were staying in.
It was like one of my mom's. I don't even know she was
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renting out like this. Like it's like a loft kind of
above a garage. It's like an apartment above
their garage and they live in a farm.
So basically we're renting out attic kind of on a on a farm.
Really weird. Anyways, we went back there
after school showing and I said I'm going to go on a walk.
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Before I left, I went to the kitchen, which was very small.
This place was very small. It was an attic.
Anyways, I went to the kitchen and I took a knife from the
drawer. Don't get too worked up here
because obviously I'm still here.
But anyways, I left and I walkeddown this dirt Rd. in forest for
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a very long time until I came upon until I walked off the dirt
Rd. into the forest like foliage.
And I came to this spot dead in the middle of the forest.
There was snow on the ground. I remember it.
I was freezing. I had the knife in my hand and I
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was ready to commit suicide at that moment.
And that was a very, very, very dark place in my life.
I'd, I'd been in that dark placefor about a year, then maybe
even more. Well, I've been in that dark
place for the entirety of my life, but like really dark for
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about a year there. But I just kind of bring myself
to do it. Thank God.
Thank God I couldn't. So I took the knife, poked one
of my fingers. It was this finger.
I poked a dot in this finger so I could remember, took the knife
(28:32):
and I chucked it as far as I could, watching before all this
happened, when I was going to commit suicide.
I just remember crying. It's like bawling on my knees in
the snow. No one was there at all.
Like this was like a really, really, really room up place
around like this random forest and I'm just crying and crying
(28:55):
and crying. But I couldn't because what
glimpsed in my mind was my school.
So I'm just called school and the teachers I had there and the
clubs and activities I had there.
And so I, I just couldn't. And so I threw the knife into
the forest and I made my way back.
And here we are. After that, I basically moved
(29:18):
out. I was like, well, screw this,
I'm not moving here. I texted one of my friends.
I won't say his name because maybe he wants his own privacy.
Texted one of his, my friends. And I was like, you know, this
is random, but can I live with you?
He texted me back later that day.
He was like, yeah, when I was myparents, I moved in with him for
a year. A lot of stuff happens between
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that time and we'll get into that later.
But it was in that moment when Iwas in the forest and I was
crying on the ground about to kill myself, where I was fed up
with, I was fed up with being chained down with my life
(30:01):
situation. And I was, I was fed up of being
deprived from the life that I wanted and the, the, the passion
I wanted to put into my life andthe kindness I wanted to give.
I was, I was just so fed up withit all that I, I knew it
couldn't be there. And So what I'm in pursuit of is
freedom. I'm in pursuit of freedom.
(30:22):
I'm in pursuit of freedom from everyday's life challenges, the
huge challenges that life alwaysthrows in front of me, and
freedom from like my own negative human side.
I'd say that we all have, but I think that's also just part of
being human. But I'm also trying to create
and look for freedom with my time, whether that be like
(30:49):
hanging out with certain people,investing in like hobbies that I
enjoy and going places that I enjoy and not working like a
miserable job and anything. But that's kind of unavoidable
freedom with my money, which means spending your
responsibility for myself, whichI can also share with you guys
how I do that. And freedom with my emotions, my
(31:11):
freedom to give passion to everything that I want to do and
like, don't have to care about how everyone else is looking at
me or how I'm supposed to act aslike a child or as a male or any
of that stuff kind of thing. And so I'm trying my best to do
that. Bye.
Having as many different types of friends as possible.
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So I'm going to expose myself toall the possibilities of like
who I can become kind of thing. Try as many hobbies as I can,
travel as much as I can. I'm extremely broke, so that
one's kind of not really there. It's a work in progress and I'm
trying to stay healthy, which issomething I honestly want to
improve on more and I want to beconsistent with more and living
(31:54):
that Yolo life, however kind that sounds.
This is Yolo right now. I really only live once so it's
no reason why I shouldn't document it.
I'm going to wrap up there, but thank you so much for tuning in
to Free to Grow. I'm sure this is going to be an
(32:16):
amazing, amazing, amazing experience for both of us.
If you have any requests of whatyou want an episode to be where
that be like a question from like your own life, you can
submit that anonymously. I'm going to set that up or
publicly. You can just DM me on Instagram
at Jerome dot embargo on Instagram, say hey, this is my
(32:40):
situation pop up. I can give advice for it.
Or if you just want me to like talk about anything that's going
on in the world or an interesting topic, anything you
just want to hear me talk about,shoot it to me.
The DMS drop a follow slash, subscribe on whatever platform
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it, follow it, subscribe to it so that you can listen to my
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episode next week on Thursday. We're dropping every single
Thursday. So please tune in.
And then if you could, we'll task for you.
Since I was so open, we'll tradeoff here.
Send this episode to two people that you think would benefit it,
benefit from hearing it, or justcheap people in general and
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Maybe I am terrified because I have no clue what's coming next.
I have so much to improve on as a person that I want to improve
on. And I'm a little scared of how
(33:47):
like people are going to view mefor this podcast if I'm going to
be so real, but I'm not actuallyreally.
But there's always like a fair amount.
I don't think that fear will ever go away like completely
because obviously I'm posting this.
But again, thank you so much fortuning in.
It means the absolute world to me.
Shoot me some feedback if you think it sounds great or good.
(34:07):
Tell me to me in person. I don't know.
I'll catch you later. Thank you for being a part of my
journey and thank you for allowing me to be a part of
yours and see you next Thursday.Thank you, crew.
Bye.
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