September 11, 2025 • 25 mins
In light of recent events, Jerome pays respect, evaluates, and comments on the influence of Right-wing activist, Charlie Kirk. Jerome discusses the importance of universal ideologies while inviting you to criticize his logic.
00:00 Hello + my posters
02:21 Conversation perspective
03:35 Why this episode?
09:40 Universability
16:50 Why a good opinion ACTUALLY matters
19:26 Politics & Morality
23:20 My full opinion
24:21 Final comments
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Episode Transcript
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OK, hello guys. Welcome back.
Sorry. Hello crew.
Welcome back to another Thursday.
You're listening to Free to Growwith Jerome Mbaga and this is
the 8th episode. This is obviously a very, I want
to say information packed and maybe controversial episode, but
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we'll get to that in a little bit.
Before we dive into that, I justwant to say hello.
I hope you guys are all doing really, really, really well.
I hope you guys had a great week.
Since I talked to you guys last Thursday, that is a reminder
that I drop everything every single Thursday on pretty much
every platform that you would use unless you're on the dark
web. So go listen to that and also if
(00:49):
you watched any of the last I think 2 episodes because they
were actually took place when I was in this room, you will see
that my wall has changed a bunch.
I got a bunch of posters becauseI went to this cool like record
store thing sort of with some ofmy friends and got a bunch of
posters. But I also went to there was
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like a poster fair that my university held.
So I got a bunch of them. These two I got from the record
store and then all these other ones I got yesterday and I love
them so much. Just like a Coke bottle over
there, alpaca sticking out the window up there.
That's a Kendrick one that's so cool.
Some fish, some random paintings, a one piece poster.
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I love it, Kendrick, obviously. And then these photos all over
here in this row are photos of like me and my girlfriend or
just my girlfriend. And then these ones I like
little families that I've made along the way nice and close to
my head so I can look up and seewhat I'm going for.
So it's just like me and my siblings, me and a really,
really important woman in my life.
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She was like my school therapist.
It's like my best friend. This was a canoe trip I did, and
there were just a couple of friends I made there that are
just like family forever. This is my high school friend
group and hopefully friend groupfor life.
They're just amazing. And this is the musical I did
this year, and I just met a bunch of really cool people and
a lot of great experiences. So yeah, that's pretty much my
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wall. I hope you like it.
And past that, let's dive in because I'm sure you guys want
to hear what I'm about to yap onabout.
So before we dive into this episode, regardless of your
opinion of me or the world or whatever, it is important to pay
respect to a life when it is lost.
So in that regard, I just want to give thoughts and prayers and
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hope you guys do to Charlie Kirkand especially his family.
Regardless on your opinion of the person, I think it's
important to recognize that whether or not you agree with
the person, it's important to recognize the fact that Charlie
Kirk's family is probably going through a very rough time right
now and that's not something you'd want to wish upon pretty
much anybody. So I want to lay out a bit of a
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narrative here where I'm not speaking as if I'm like some
know it all. Everything I say, I believe
100%. Like, I'm aware that there are
going to be things I say in thisepisode that I might change my
mind within, like, maybe tomorrow or next week or in a
couple years. But this is just the opinion I
hold now. This is not like the voice of
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God or whatever, whatever. And it is always important to
pay us back to a person when they lose their life.
So please hold that narrative aswell.
So on that light, it's importantto.
You might be asking. Well, Jerome, yeah, this is a
pretty sensitive topic. You're not like, like, you know,
like an Oxford scholar. Like, you may not know, like the
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best. Why are you making this episode?
Well, I'm making this episode because it's something that has
to be talked about because it isso often that we'll have this,
like, big news that we hear about someone died, someone got
shot or a war is starting and itjust passes a war ahead.
You know, you see everyone posting about it on their
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stories here and there and then gone.
And there's usually a lot that you might want to say in that
moment that I might want to say in that moment, but maybe we
don't get the chance to. And so I'm here to voice my
voice opinion. And if it correlates with you,
maybe I'm speaking for you as well.
If not, then maybe you're learning a different
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perspective. But yeah, so if you do not know
Charlie Kirk is the best way to describe him is he's a right
wing activist who primarily spends his time in the United
States of America travelling from college to university, like
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all different campuses and has these like almost like open mic
debate, sorry, open mic debates with college students where they
talk about pressing issues such as like immigration, government
policies, Donald Trump, gun laws, like everything, every
political issue. He doesn't only debate with
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university students, but that isa majority of his time.
He has other works that he does does as well, including more
professional debates. And to a certain degree he is a
good, maybe not good, but he's a, he's maybe tactful, tactful.
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I don't know if that's the word debater.
Also, I forgot to say, but thereis a poll.
If you're listening to this on Spotify, there is a poll.
So stick around to the end of the episode so you can decide if
you think my opinion was right or wrong.
Anyways, if you do not know, he was giving under one of his open
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mic debate things, I or maybe just a talk, I'm not sure, but
he was on on campus. He had like he was sitting on a
mic in front of a crowd with people and a man asked him a
couple questions about gang violence, gun violence, all this
kind of stuff and then proceededto shoot him and he is dead.
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The man who shot him obviously is arrested, I believe.
Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I don't know if I ever
searched that up. Don't quote me on that, but like
I'm 99% sure he's arrested anyways.
So that's where we're at. That's where we're at right now.
And that took place yesterday. That's Wednesday, Wednesday,
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whatever day that was. Here's the thing, OK, a lot of
people like like, I mean like a lot of people do not agree with
Charlie Kirk's policies and ideologies.
At the same time, a lot of people do agree he is a very
like his, his ideologies are very, very, very controversial.
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But the problem is, and usually the problem with controversial
people, it's not just the fact that you either agree with him
or you don't. It's more the fact that the
people on opposite sides are notwilling to hear out the other
side and the people on opposite sides hold the view of like, why
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would you think that? Like, like if I don't agree with
Charlie Kirk, I almost see people who do agree with Charlie
Kirk as like villainous and like, why in the world would you
think that way? I, I cannot see any reason why
you'd want to think that way at all.
And if you do agree with CharlieKirk, then you view the other
side the same. So there's like no space for
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dialogue in the middle. Hence why I want to bring up
this discussion. I will come forth and say that I
do not agree with a lot of the things Charlie Kirk says.
I'll say that right at the top of the bat.
And that is no disrespect to hisleft front earner in any way.
I believe that these are the conversations that he is trying
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to promote, talking about open dialogue, about politics, and he
encourages people to criticize him.
That's why he goes to public events.
And most of the time he's debating people that do not
agree with him rather than people who do agree with him.
So yeah, I'll, I'll be straight up.
I don't agree with a lot of the policies that he holds,
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including when we're talking about abortion, when we're
talking about immigration policies, talking about leaders
in question brackets, Donald Trump just on a lot of lot of
lot of levels. However, however, depending,
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depending on what demographic you're a part of listening to me
hear this, you're either going to think, well, you're either
going to like disagree with me like reasonably or agree with me
reasonably. Or if you're more around my
demographic, no offense, you will either agree with me
completely or you will be like, oh, this guy's a doofus.
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He's like some soft liberal, yada yada, yada, yada, all that
rubbish. And if you're thinking that,
don't stop the episode now, keeplistening because I promise you
that you will leave this conversation with something.
So my point is, is that the reason why I don't believe, the
reason why I don't agree with a lot of his policies is because
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they are not keyword here universal.
I think that's a word. So the topic I'm trying to put
on here is universability. If you are my philosophy teacher
from grade 12, you're going to be clapping your hands because
you taught me this in grade 12 philosophy.
But it is essentially what makesa good opinion in my in my
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belief, a good opinion has to beuniversalizable.
I don't know if that's AI, don'tknow if that's a word and
someone stopped me because I do not think that's a word.
Anyways, what that means is you cannot have an opinion that you
hold for one set of people or one set of situations that you
do not agree with in other sets of situations.
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Now those situations have to be equivalent.
That's like, like, you know whatI mean?
But they have to be equivalent. Like it's OK for me to slap my
friend when I see like a yellow car cuz like the game banana or
whatever, but it's maybe not OK to slap some absolute random in
the face. Like those are not equivalent
situations. And I feel like people usually
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get lost in debate there where they're like, oh, but if I can
do this anytime and then they just give a completely
unequivalent example. Like, you know, those are two
different examples. I don't think I need to explain
why, but let's just not start that.
So the reason why is because I don't think they're
universalizable. So I do want to let me pinpoint
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multiple when people often talk about immigration, and this is
also an opinion Charlie Kirk holds, they talk about how like
immigration is like destroying America or whatever country they
live in, but usually it's America.
They're they're like destroying America.
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They're taking jobs, yada, yada,yada, yada, yada.
And they're like, they're immigrants that are raping
people and they're kidnapping, they're committing crimes.
Is that true for a select few individuals?
Yes, it is. Is it OK to hold that view on a
select few immigrants and universalize it across all
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immigrants? No, it is not.
And if you truly believe that every single immigrant is yadda
yadda yadda XYZ, then you need to do some research.
Because that is just objectivelynot true.
That is just not true. That's not that's not my
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opinion. That's not a political opinion.
That is just a matter of fact. And I think it's very important
to hold those artifacts in account.
And so This is why the reason where I often feel that the
people who are speaking the loudest sometimes are the people
who are not very educated the most.
And when I say that, I'm not even talking about Charlie Kirk.
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I'm talking about just sometimeswhen you have like a random
political debate or something with your friend in the night
time or at some random time. I hold this.
I'm sorry, sorry, backtracking. Your opinion has to be
universalizable or else you don't actually agree with it.
You can't say like especially for immigration.
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You can't say like immigrants from the UK or Australia,
predominantly white countries are OK, but immigrants from
other countries aren't OK. I do see where people can go
down that loophole being like, well, these are more likely.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. But it is important to remember
the value of a human life, whichis where I started with talking
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about the importance of recognizing Charlie Kirk's life.
And no matter the fact whether you agreed with him or not, it
is important to recognize that he was a human life.
And we have to pay respects to the fact that human life was
lost. Another thing, a lot of the big
problem I have with right wing, honestly, it's not even right
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wing. It's just extremists on both
ends, on both ends of left and right wing, just extremists.
I just feel like the right wing maybe are just extremists are
more loud in their efforts. And like the left wing
extremists don't really get thatmuch like support.
And the overall like political scale of the world has been
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shifting right for the past likeforever for the past.
Like I want to say like 20 yearsor something, 10 years.
And I feel like if you're my ageor around my age and you've
definitely felt it, you definitely felt that shift
probably ever since Trump got elected like the first time.
I'm not saying he is the cause of that.
He has caused shifts right throughout the world.
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He's not the sole cause of it. There are many, many, many
causes that often are attributedto one person.
It's more like economic factors,political factors of the entire
world. But essentially, I'm rambling
on. Essentially what I'm saying is,
is if you're going to hold an opinion and you're going to hold
it loudly, make sure that you can apply this to all.
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So it is not fair. I would say to because the big,
big piece here where people are holding criticism is they're
saying that Charlie Kirk was very anti like, like really
strong gun laws and like banningguns.
And the states has always been acontroversial topic when it
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comes to guns because they love their guns more than like
anywhere else in the world. And so when we're flipping it
back to the fact that he got shot due to the fact that gun
laws are loose in the United States comparative to the rest
of the world, people are like, Oh well, that didn't turn out
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very well. And I'm not saying that in any
disrespectful way. But if you're going to hold the
opinion that guns should be legal and they should be like
you shouldn't like restrict likea humans right to hold a gun,
yada yada yada, they should be made even more free then you.
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That means you also have to accept the cost that people will
die from gun violence. And I don't think it's realistic
for someone to hold the opinion that looser gun laws are going
to protect more people because Ijust can't.
The only way that would really, that would never work really.
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But the only way that it would really work is for everyone,
like everyone to have a gun. I mean, like everyone even like
toddlers. And we just like, it just
doesn't make sense. It just doesn't make sense.
You don't have to agree with that opinion.
That's fine. I went on a really big ramble
there. I kind of lost the point of what
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I was saying. But the point is, if you're
going to have an opinion, make sure you can apply it to all
situations. And now I'm going to talk about
why that matters. That matters so, so, so, so, so,
so much. Because when you are, I don't
know, just like scrolling on tech talk or something and boom,
you get a big flash of news. Like you, maybe you've heard
about how the Nepal government is like getting overthrown, the
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French government, like their prime ministers got kicked out,
life was found on Mars. Like there's just so, so much
information getting flown at youall the time.
These objective truths and theseuniversal, universal bowl
notions that you hold will steeryou through that.
If you listen to episode 2 of this podcast, I was talking
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about finding a center. That was more about finding a
center throughout your entire life.
But that same principle can be applied here.
For example, my one of my universal notions is that
killing is never justified. That is my that is my the notion
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I hold. And so I won't you won't hear me
saying like, Oh my gosh, yeah, it's glad that that that
happened. Like, no, it's not because I'm
also not super, super, super like locked in or like focused
on the situation of his own Palestine.
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But I am definitely focused. I couldn't name you like a
bajillion faxed off of my head, but I definitely am focused.
And I think what's happening in Palestine is really an atrocity,
and a lot of people are dying. And so this is going to be
flipping it back. If you are one of the people
that hold the opinion that it's OK to kill Palestinians, then
you cannot flip the script back here and say it is not OK,
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Sorry, it is not OK to kill Charlie Clerk.
I don't believe it was OK that he was killed.
At the same time, I don't believe that it is OK that
Palestinians should be killed. You can't hold both like you
can't hold two different opinions, especially when it
comes to matters of life and death and so you by.
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It's important to have a good opinion because with so much
going on in the world constantly, your opinion
matters. Because we're getting to a point
in the world as there's more andmore controversial news flooding
out onto news outlets every single day and the world shifts
more right. And there's so much conflict in
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the world. It's, it's like actually insane,
especially if you're at a young age.
We're at a point where you can'tjust say it's just politics
because it's not. It's not just politics.
Politics is literally everything.
And I think the faster you, the quicker you realize that, the
more well you'll realize more negative things about the world.
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But you will also hold a more secure and better moral
position. And I say that because politics
are your morals. If you, like, believe that it
was OK that he got killed, then that is a part of your morality.
That means you are holding humanlife to a lower standard than
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others are if you are. Pro like mass immigration even
for people who like are there legally or are not committing
any crimes and are boosting the economy then that means you that
that is a comment on your morality because it means you
are prioritizing the needs of few over the needs of many.
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It also means that you're not being as informed in certain
things as you should always. Again this is my opinion but
there is a lot of truth in the statements I am saying.
If you are like a straight up racist then it's maybe
commenting that you may be closeminded.
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Like there's you can't separate politics and your morality
because politics effects everything.
If you can think of one thing, one thing in the entire world,
entire earth that politics does not affect then please feel free
to DM me that. But I assure you, it does not
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exist. Politics controls food, it
controls the weather. When it comes to how much like
we're polluting and all that kind of stuff.
That environment, it includes education, healthcare, like how
long you are going to live life,medicine.
We're talking about money that goes into research.
We're talking about like countryborders, like everything,
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everything, everything, everything.
And so it is important to be aware, It is important to hold
certain truth in yourself where you reach a point where you're
like, OK, I'm OK holding this opinion.
And for now, for now, any situation that would come my
way, I would still hold this opinion.
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It's fine if you don't have those right now on the spot, but
I would encourage you to developthose very quickly and sooner
rather than later. That's the better way to put it.
And so I will talk about politics more here and there.
I really do love talking about politics as I do Model UN, but
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it's not like it's sometimes it's very serious topics.
So maybe I won't be doing that too, too much.
But in terms of my opinion, I believe that Charlie Kirk was a
right wing activist that maybe not on purpose, but spread lots
of hate and misinformation, especially to the younger
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demographic because young peopleoften do not hold those
objective truths. We often do not hold those
notions that are universalizable.
And that's a very big problem because then you see a random
clip on TikTok of some dude talking about how an immigrant's
going to take a job. And all of a sudden you at the
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right age of like 18, you might not even have a job or you're
just like working like a random job somewhere in a mall or a
store believe that immigrants are coming to take your job.
And now you hate immigrants. So it's important to keep your
mind open. It's, it's important to keep
your, it's important to hold a few select truths and then keep
your mind open to everything else.
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My opinion is that he unintentionally or
intentionally, I believe intentionally segregated people
out of his definition of great America.
And he he helped create in recent years, he helped create
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the society that was eventually his death.
Do I believe his death was justified?
No, I do not believe that. And when I say he helped create
that, I mean he was very pro gunlaws, all that kind of jazz and
but but at the end of the day, at the end of the day, his life
should not have been taken. And absolute thoughts and
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prayers going to his family. I know his wife and two kids I
believe, and anyone else, his friends, family, anyone else.
If you felt some sort of connection, I'm sorry for that
too. A human life should never be
taken for granted. And that's my opinion.
So answer the poll. Do you believe that my opinion
was correct or was it wrong? If you wanted to just comment on
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this like give me more feedback on why you think I'm wrong or
why I think I might or anything and shoot me a DM.
If you want to hear your thoughts and opinions heard on
this podcast then sorry. Click the link in my bio.
It should be on Spotify, unlike the when, like the description
of this podcast, but it will also be the link in my Instagram
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bio. Click the link.
There's a space for you to submit it.
It's anonymous or you can say who you are doesn't matter.
But thank you for tuning in. The world is really, really,
really crazy. And you, I think anyone who says
they know like exactly what's going on and all their opinions
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are correct or are just, it's just wrong.
It's just wrong. So just to close off, hold a few
select truths that you know whatlike will be your compass to the
political world, and then keep your mind open to everything
else. Don't think you're always 100%
right. Don't don't don't think that
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because then you're going to eventually end up being wrong.
Hold the notion that you can be wrong because you're not like
all knowing being kind of thing,right?
But anyways, thanks so much for tuning in.
I hope you liked it. New episode next Thursday.
I had a great time talking to you guys.
And yeah, bye crew.
OK, hello guys. Welcome back.
Sorry. Hello crew.
Welcome back to another Thursday.
You're listening to Free to Growwith Jerome Mbaga and this is
the 8th episode. This is obviously a very, I want
to say information packed and maybe controversial episode, but
(00:24):
we'll get to that in a little bit.
Before we dive into that, I justwant to say hello.
I hope you guys are all doing really, really, really well.
I hope you guys had a great week.
Since I talked to you guys last Thursday, that is a reminder
that I drop everything every single Thursday on pretty much
every platform that you would use unless you're on the dark
web. So go listen to that and also if
(00:49):
you watched any of the last I think 2 episodes because they
were actually took place when I was in this room, you will see
that my wall has changed a bunch.
I got a bunch of posters becauseI went to this cool like record
store thing sort of with some ofmy friends and got a bunch of
posters. But I also went to there was
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like a poster fair that my university held.
So I got a bunch of them. These two I got from the record
store and then all these other ones I got yesterday and I love
them so much. Just like a Coke bottle over
there, alpaca sticking out the window up there.
That's a Kendrick one that's so cool.
Some fish, some random paintings, a one piece poster.
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I love it, Kendrick, obviously. And then these photos all over
here in this row are photos of like me and my girlfriend or
just my girlfriend. And then these ones I like
little families that I've made along the way nice and close to
my head so I can look up and seewhat I'm going for.
So it's just like me and my siblings, me and a really,
really important woman in my life.
(01:55):
She was like my school therapist.
It's like my best friend. This was a canoe trip I did, and
there were just a couple of friends I made there that are
just like family forever. This is my high school friend
group and hopefully friend groupfor life.
They're just amazing. And this is the musical I did
this year, and I just met a bunch of really cool people and
a lot of great experiences. So yeah, that's pretty much my
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wall. I hope you like it.
And past that, let's dive in because I'm sure you guys want
to hear what I'm about to yap onabout.
So before we dive into this episode, regardless of your
opinion of me or the world or whatever, it is important to pay
respect to a life when it is lost.
So in that regard, I just want to give thoughts and prayers and
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hope you guys do to Charlie Kirkand especially his family.
Regardless on your opinion of the person, I think it's
important to recognize that whether or not you agree with
the person, it's important to recognize the fact that Charlie
Kirk's family is probably going through a very rough time right
now and that's not something you'd want to wish upon pretty
much anybody. So I want to lay out a bit of a
(03:06):
narrative here where I'm not speaking as if I'm like some
know it all. Everything I say, I believe
100%. Like, I'm aware that there are
going to be things I say in thisepisode that I might change my
mind within, like, maybe tomorrow or next week or in a
couple years. But this is just the opinion I
hold now. This is not like the voice of
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God or whatever, whatever. And it is always important to
pay us back to a person when they lose their life.
So please hold that narrative aswell.
So on that light, it's importantto.
You might be asking. Well, Jerome, yeah, this is a
pretty sensitive topic. You're not like, like, you know,
like an Oxford scholar. Like, you may not know, like the
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best. Why are you making this episode?
Well, I'm making this episode because it's something that has
to be talked about because it isso often that we'll have this,
like, big news that we hear about someone died, someone got
shot or a war is starting and itjust passes a war ahead.
You know, you see everyone posting about it on their
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stories here and there and then gone.
And there's usually a lot that you might want to say in that
moment that I might want to say in that moment, but maybe we
don't get the chance to. And so I'm here to voice my
voice opinion. And if it correlates with you,
maybe I'm speaking for you as well.
If not, then maybe you're learning a different
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perspective. But yeah, so if you do not know
Charlie Kirk is the best way to describe him is he's a right
wing activist who primarily spends his time in the United
States of America travelling from college to university, like
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all different campuses and has these like almost like open mic
debate, sorry, open mic debates with college students where they
talk about pressing issues such as like immigration, government
policies, Donald Trump, gun laws, like everything, every
political issue. He doesn't only debate with
(05:13):
university students, but that isa majority of his time.
He has other works that he does does as well, including more
professional debates. And to a certain degree he is a
good, maybe not good, but he's a, he's maybe tactful, tactful.
(05:37):
I don't know if that's the word debater.
Also, I forgot to say, but thereis a poll.
If you're listening to this on Spotify, there is a poll.
So stick around to the end of the episode so you can decide if
you think my opinion was right or wrong.
Anyways, if you do not know, he was giving under one of his open
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mic debate things, I or maybe just a talk, I'm not sure, but
he was on on campus. He had like he was sitting on a
mic in front of a crowd with people and a man asked him a
couple questions about gang violence, gun violence, all this
kind of stuff and then proceededto shoot him and he is dead.
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The man who shot him obviously is arrested, I believe.
Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I don't know if I ever
searched that up. Don't quote me on that, but like
I'm 99% sure he's arrested anyways.
So that's where we're at. That's where we're at right now.
And that took place yesterday. That's Wednesday, Wednesday,
(06:46):
whatever day that was. Here's the thing, OK, a lot of
people like like, I mean like a lot of people do not agree with
Charlie Kirk's policies and ideologies.
At the same time, a lot of people do agree he is a very
like his, his ideologies are very, very, very controversial.
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But the problem is, and usually the problem with controversial
people, it's not just the fact that you either agree with him
or you don't. It's more the fact that the
people on opposite sides are notwilling to hear out the other
side and the people on opposite sides hold the view of like, why
(07:34):
would you think that? Like, like if I don't agree with
Charlie Kirk, I almost see people who do agree with Charlie
Kirk as like villainous and like, why in the world would you
think that way? I, I cannot see any reason why
you'd want to think that way at all.
And if you do agree with CharlieKirk, then you view the other
side the same. So there's like no space for
(07:55):
dialogue in the middle. Hence why I want to bring up
this discussion. I will come forth and say that I
do not agree with a lot of the things Charlie Kirk says.
I'll say that right at the top of the bat.
And that is no disrespect to hisleft front earner in any way.
I believe that these are the conversations that he is trying
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to promote, talking about open dialogue, about politics, and he
encourages people to criticize him.
That's why he goes to public events.
And most of the time he's debating people that do not
agree with him rather than people who do agree with him.
So yeah, I'll, I'll be straight up.
I don't agree with a lot of the policies that he holds,
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including when we're talking about abortion, when we're
talking about immigration policies, talking about leaders
in question brackets, Donald Trump just on a lot of lot of
lot of levels. However, however, depending,
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depending on what demographic you're a part of listening to me
hear this, you're either going to think, well, you're either
going to like disagree with me like reasonably or agree with me
reasonably. Or if you're more around my
demographic, no offense, you will either agree with me
completely or you will be like, oh, this guy's a doofus.
(09:23):
He's like some soft liberal, yada yada, yada, yada, all that
rubbish. And if you're thinking that,
don't stop the episode now, keeplistening because I promise you
that you will leave this conversation with something.
So my point is, is that the reason why I don't believe, the
reason why I don't agree with a lot of his policies is because
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they are not keyword here universal.
I think that's a word. So the topic I'm trying to put
on here is universability. If you are my philosophy teacher
from grade 12, you're going to be clapping your hands because
you taught me this in grade 12 philosophy.
But it is essentially what makesa good opinion in my in my
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belief, a good opinion has to beuniversalizable.
I don't know if that's AI, don'tknow if that's a word and
someone stopped me because I do not think that's a word.
Anyways, what that means is you cannot have an opinion that you
hold for one set of people or one set of situations that you
do not agree with in other sets of situations.
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Now those situations have to be equivalent.
That's like, like, you know whatI mean?
But they have to be equivalent. Like it's OK for me to slap my
friend when I see like a yellow car cuz like the game banana or
whatever, but it's maybe not OK to slap some absolute random in
the face. Like those are not equivalent
situations. And I feel like people usually
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get lost in debate there where they're like, oh, but if I can
do this anytime and then they just give a completely
unequivalent example. Like, you know, those are two
different examples. I don't think I need to explain
why, but let's just not start that.
So the reason why is because I don't think they're
universalizable. So I do want to let me pinpoint
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multiple when people often talk about immigration, and this is
also an opinion Charlie Kirk holds, they talk about how like
immigration is like destroying America or whatever country they
live in, but usually it's America.
They're they're like destroying America.
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They're taking jobs, yada, yada,yada, yada, yada.
And they're like, they're immigrants that are raping
people and they're kidnapping, they're committing crimes.
Is that true for a select few individuals?
Yes, it is. Is it OK to hold that view on a
select few immigrants and universalize it across all
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immigrants? No, it is not.
And if you truly believe that every single immigrant is yadda
yadda yadda XYZ, then you need to do some research.
Because that is just objectivelynot true.
That is just not true. That's not that's not my
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opinion. That's not a political opinion.
That is just a matter of fact. And I think it's very important
to hold those artifacts in account.
And so This is why the reason where I often feel that the
people who are speaking the loudest sometimes are the people
who are not very educated the most.
And when I say that, I'm not even talking about Charlie Kirk.
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I'm talking about just sometimeswhen you have like a random
political debate or something with your friend in the night
time or at some random time. I hold this.
I'm sorry, sorry, backtracking. Your opinion has to be
universalizable or else you don't actually agree with it.
You can't say like especially for immigration.
(12:59):
You can't say like immigrants from the UK or Australia,
predominantly white countries are OK, but immigrants from
other countries aren't OK. I do see where people can go
down that loophole being like, well, these are more likely.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. But it is important to remember
the value of a human life, whichis where I started with talking
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about the importance of recognizing Charlie Kirk's life.
And no matter the fact whether you agreed with him or not, it
is important to recognize that he was a human life.
And we have to pay respects to the fact that human life was
lost. Another thing, a lot of the big
problem I have with right wing, honestly, it's not even right
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wing. It's just extremists on both
ends, on both ends of left and right wing, just extremists.
I just feel like the right wing maybe are just extremists are
more loud in their efforts. And like the left wing
extremists don't really get thatmuch like support.
And the overall like political scale of the world has been
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shifting right for the past likeforever for the past.
Like I want to say like 20 yearsor something, 10 years.
And I feel like if you're my ageor around my age and you've
definitely felt it, you definitely felt that shift
probably ever since Trump got elected like the first time.
I'm not saying he is the cause of that.
He has caused shifts right throughout the world.
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He's not the sole cause of it. There are many, many, many
causes that often are attributedto one person.
It's more like economic factors,political factors of the entire
world. But essentially, I'm rambling
on. Essentially what I'm saying is,
is if you're going to hold an opinion and you're going to hold
it loudly, make sure that you can apply this to all.
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So it is not fair. I would say to because the big,
big piece here where people are holding criticism is they're
saying that Charlie Kirk was very anti like, like really
strong gun laws and like banningguns.
And the states has always been acontroversial topic when it
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comes to guns because they love their guns more than like
anywhere else in the world. And so when we're flipping it
back to the fact that he got shot due to the fact that gun
laws are loose in the United States comparative to the rest
of the world, people are like, Oh well, that didn't turn out
(15:37):
very well. And I'm not saying that in any
disrespectful way. But if you're going to hold the
opinion that guns should be legal and they should be like
you shouldn't like restrict likea humans right to hold a gun,
yada yada yada, they should be made even more free then you.
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That means you also have to accept the cost that people will
die from gun violence. And I don't think it's realistic
for someone to hold the opinion that looser gun laws are going
to protect more people because Ijust can't.
The only way that would really, that would never work really.
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But the only way that it would really work is for everyone,
like everyone to have a gun. I mean, like everyone even like
toddlers. And we just like, it just
doesn't make sense. It just doesn't make sense.
You don't have to agree with that opinion.
That's fine. I went on a really big ramble
there. I kind of lost the point of what
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I was saying. But the point is, if you're
going to have an opinion, make sure you can apply it to all
situations. And now I'm going to talk about
why that matters. That matters so, so, so, so, so,
so much. Because when you are, I don't
know, just like scrolling on tech talk or something and boom,
you get a big flash of news. Like you, maybe you've heard
about how the Nepal government is like getting overthrown, the
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French government, like their prime ministers got kicked out,
life was found on Mars. Like there's just so, so much
information getting flown at youall the time.
These objective truths and theseuniversal, universal bowl
notions that you hold will steeryou through that.
If you listen to episode 2 of this podcast, I was talking
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about finding a center. That was more about finding a
center throughout your entire life.
But that same principle can be applied here.
For example, my one of my universal notions is that
killing is never justified. That is my that is my the notion
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I hold. And so I won't you won't hear me
saying like, Oh my gosh, yeah, it's glad that that that
happened. Like, no, it's not because I'm
also not super, super, super like locked in or like focused
on the situation of his own Palestine.
(18:10):
But I am definitely focused. I couldn't name you like a
bajillion faxed off of my head, but I definitely am focused.
And I think what's happening in Palestine is really an atrocity,
and a lot of people are dying. And so this is going to be
flipping it back. If you are one of the people
that hold the opinion that it's OK to kill Palestinians, then
you cannot flip the script back here and say it is not OK,
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Sorry, it is not OK to kill Charlie Clerk.
I don't believe it was OK that he was killed.
At the same time, I don't believe that it is OK that
Palestinians should be killed. You can't hold both like you
can't hold two different opinions, especially when it
comes to matters of life and death and so you by.
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It's important to have a good opinion because with so much
going on in the world constantly, your opinion
matters. Because we're getting to a point
in the world as there's more andmore controversial news flooding
out onto news outlets every single day and the world shifts
more right. And there's so much conflict in
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the world. It's, it's like actually insane,
especially if you're at a young age.
We're at a point where you can'tjust say it's just politics
because it's not. It's not just politics.
Politics is literally everything.
And I think the faster you, the quicker you realize that, the
more well you'll realize more negative things about the world.
(19:44):
But you will also hold a more secure and better moral
position. And I say that because politics
are your morals. If you, like, believe that it
was OK that he got killed, then that is a part of your morality.
That means you are holding humanlife to a lower standard than
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others are if you are. Pro like mass immigration even
for people who like are there legally or are not committing
any crimes and are boosting the economy then that means you that
that is a comment on your morality because it means you
are prioritizing the needs of few over the needs of many.
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It also means that you're not being as informed in certain
things as you should always. Again this is my opinion but
there is a lot of truth in the statements I am saying.
If you are like a straight up racist then it's maybe
commenting that you may be closeminded.
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Like there's you can't separate politics and your morality
because politics effects everything.
If you can think of one thing, one thing in the entire world,
entire earth that politics does not affect then please feel free
to DM me that. But I assure you, it does not
(21:08):
exist. Politics controls food, it
controls the weather. When it comes to how much like
we're polluting and all that kind of stuff.
That environment, it includes education, healthcare, like how
long you are going to live life,medicine.
We're talking about money that goes into research.
We're talking about like countryborders, like everything,
(21:29):
everything, everything, everything.
And so it is important to be aware, It is important to hold
certain truth in yourself where you reach a point where you're
like, OK, I'm OK holding this opinion.
And for now, for now, any situation that would come my
way, I would still hold this opinion.
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It's fine if you don't have those right now on the spot, but
I would encourage you to developthose very quickly and sooner
rather than later. That's the better way to put it.
And so I will talk about politics more here and there.
I really do love talking about politics as I do Model UN, but
(22:12):
it's not like it's sometimes it's very serious topics.
So maybe I won't be doing that too, too much.
But in terms of my opinion, I believe that Charlie Kirk was a
right wing activist that maybe not on purpose, but spread lots
of hate and misinformation, especially to the younger
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demographic because young peopleoften do not hold those
objective truths. We often do not hold those
notions that are universalizable.
And that's a very big problem because then you see a random
clip on TikTok of some dude talking about how an immigrant's
going to take a job. And all of a sudden you at the
(23:01):
right age of like 18, you might not even have a job or you're
just like working like a random job somewhere in a mall or a
store believe that immigrants are coming to take your job.
And now you hate immigrants. So it's important to keep your
mind open. It's, it's important to keep
your, it's important to hold a few select truths and then keep
your mind open to everything else.
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My opinion is that he unintentionally or
intentionally, I believe intentionally segregated people
out of his definition of great America.
And he he helped create in recent years, he helped create
(23:47):
the society that was eventually his death.
Do I believe his death was justified?
No, I do not believe that. And when I say he helped create
that, I mean he was very pro gunlaws, all that kind of jazz and
but but at the end of the day, at the end of the day, his life
should not have been taken. And absolute thoughts and
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prayers going to his family. I know his wife and two kids I
believe, and anyone else, his friends, family, anyone else.
If you felt some sort of connection, I'm sorry for that
too. A human life should never be
taken for granted. And that's my opinion.
So answer the poll. Do you believe that my opinion
was correct or was it wrong? If you wanted to just comment on
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this like give me more feedback on why you think I'm wrong or
why I think I might or anything and shoot me a DM.
If you want to hear your thoughts and opinions heard on
this podcast then sorry. Click the link in my bio.
It should be on Spotify, unlike the when, like the description
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(24:55):
bio. Click the link.
There's a space for you to submit it.
It's anonymous or you can say who you are doesn't matter.
But thank you for tuning in. The world is really, really,
really crazy. And you, I think anyone who says
they know like exactly what's going on and all their opinions
(25:16):
are correct or are just, it's just wrong.
It's just wrong. So just to close off, hold a few
select truths that you know whatlike will be your compass to the
political world, and then keep your mind open to everything
else. Don't think you're always 100%
right. Don't don't don't think that
(25:38):
because then you're going to eventually end up being wrong.
Hold the notion that you can be wrong because you're not like
all knowing being kind of thing,right?
But anyways, thanks so much for tuning in.
I hope you liked it. New episode next Thursday.
I had a great time talking to you guys.
And yeah, bye crew.
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