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Speaker 1 (00:01):
There will come a time when black people wake up
and become intellectuallyindependent enough to think for
themselves, as other humans areintellectually independent
enough to think for themselves.
Then the black man will thinklike a black man and he will
feel for other black people, andthis new thinking and feeling
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will cause black people to sticktogether.
And then at that point you'llhave a situation where when you
attack one black man, you areattacking all black men, and
this type of black thinking willcause all black people to stick
together.
And this type of thinking alsowill bring an end to the
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brutality inflicted upon blackpeople by white people, and it
is the only thing that willbring an end to it.
No federal court, state courtor city court will bring an end
to it.
It's something that the blackman has to bring an end to
himself.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Peace and welcome back, welcome back to Freedmen's
Affairs Radio.
I'm your host, vaughn Black,and we haven't got there yet,
family.
We haven't got there yet whatyou just heard Brother Malcolm
say.
We're getting there.
We've started the process, wegot a long fight ahead of us and
we're going to get there, butwe're not there yet.
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That said, that said, onceagain, welcome back and let me
get a music bed in here andwe're going to start off the
program today, march 11th, 2025.
Today's math is knowledge,knowledge, and that borns wisdom
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.
But here's the thing In themathematics, whenever you see
duplicate numbers like that, itindicates a greater emphasis on
that principle.
So, like today is the 11th, andwe say knowledge, knowledge.
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Right, there's a, there's aemphasis to to really
contemplate or to dig deeper.
Knowledge, knowledge, right, inthis case, makes us wiser or
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wise in the dome, right, let uskeep that in mind.
Family today, family today.
We're not going to stay long atall.
Hopefully I can get you out ofhere quick.
Just want to whisper in yourear for a few minutes, but it
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ain't going to be no whisperingbecause, man, we're going to
start off, we're going to go toWashington DC to the political
thing you know, this week.
Last week they had what theycall the joint session, where
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the president addressed thejoint session of Congress.
And, man, I gotta tell you itwas some fireworks up there.
It was some fireworks up there.
I mean high explosives, andwe're gonna go to it, we're
gonna go to it.
Let me let this play a littlebit.
This thing is man, it's justjazzy here.
Okay, yeah, but they had MayorWu from Boston she was up there,
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the Asian woman.
They had the mayor from Denver,colorado, I believe, johnson.
They had Chicago mayor up therefrom Chicago, illinois, mayor
Brandon Johnson, the Emperor ofChicago.
And they had also Mayor EricAdams of New York City up there
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on Capitol Hill to testify atthis hearing.
I want to say so withoutfurther ado.
Let's go to it.
Hank, I'm telling you, family,hang on to your seat, hang on to
your seats, because this wassome high explosives here and
this thing got really, reallytesty.
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But let's hold on just a second.
Let me bring it up, let mebring it up, let me bring it up.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
No one in this room should be surprised that your
approval rating because Ithought you might do this and
when I hear your answer, no onein this room should be surprised
that your approval rating is6.6%.
Now, that's not just me sayingthis Newsweek article.
The least popular politician inAmerica is Brandon Johnson.
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You can go with.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Mr.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Frost and Mr Green.
I'm reclaiming my time.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
That's what you want.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
No, no, ms Presley, I've been very accommodating to
you and I take particularumbrage on the survival of
sexual violence.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
You all have blood on your hands.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
I do not think you guys are bad people, but I think
that you are ideologicallymisled, which is why,
unfortunately, based on yourresponses, I'm all going to be
criminally referring you to theDepartment of Justice for
investigation and as soon as Ileave here, these will be going
over to Pam Bondi.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, you heard that those were just clips.
Those were just clips of theproceedings and we're going to
go into it and let me just Allright, I have my next question.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
When an illegal alien rapes a woman, do you believe
you're on the right side ofhistory?
Mayor Adams?
Yes or no?
Thank you, mr Chairman.
All of the mayors here todayare actively working to harm the
American people you represent.
You all have blood on yourhands.
I'm going to ask a series ofyes or no questions today and I
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would like to remind all of youyou are under oath.
I only want a yes or no to myquestions.
My first question do youacknowledge breaking into our
country is a crime?
Mayor Adams?
Yes or no?
Do you acknowledge breakinginto our country is a crime?
Speaker 8 (06:38):
I acknowledge.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Yes or no?
Speaker 8 (06:40):
I acknowledge.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
Okay, honorable Johnson, he's not going to
answer the question.
Yes or no, breaking into ourcountry against the law?
Speaker 9 (06:46):
Yes, or no Depends how you cross the border.
Okay, mayor Johnson yes or no?
Speaker 10 (06:51):
Comprehensive immigration reform policies are
what's necessary.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Mayor Wu, do you have a better answer than these
gentlemen before you?
Yes or no?
Yes, Okay.
Do you believe it's acceptablefor illegals who commit heinous
crimes be released back into thepublic instead of being
detained and deported?
Mayor Adams, yes or no?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Anyone break a crime.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Yes or no, this is not hard.
Yes or no?
Speaker 12 (07:14):
Anyone that break a crime should be-.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Okay, mayor, yes or no?
Speaker 9 (07:19):
They should be deported.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Okay, Mayor.
Any individual that causes harmand breaks the law should be
held accountable.
This is why you have 6%approval rating?
Because you suck at answeringquestions, mayor Wu.
Speaker 11 (07:30):
yes, or no, anyone who's a public safety threat
should be prosecuted.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
All right, I have my next question when an illegal
alien rapes a woman, do youbelieve you're on the right side
of history?
Mayor Adams, yes or no?
Can we say that question?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Mayor Johnston, when an illegal alien rapes a woman,
do you believe you're on theright side of history, yes or no
?
Speaker 9 (07:51):
I will charge and prosecute them.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Yes or no.
Okay, you said you would go tojail, didn't you?
I will charge and prosecuteanyone For harboring illegal
aliens, or something, mayorJohnston.
Speaker 10 (07:58):
Could you repeat your question please?
Speaker 6 (08:00):
When an illegal alien rapes a woman, do you believe
you're on the right side ofhistory, could you?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
clarify that question .
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Okay, Mayor Wu, yes or no?
Speaker 11 (08:07):
No, rapist obviously horrible.
Why are you letting rapistsback out onto the streets of
Boston?
That is not true.
That is not what's happening inBoston.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
When an illegal alien molests a kid, molests an
underage kid.
Do you pat yourself on the backfor being compassionate, mayor
Adams?
It's despicable and he shouldbe arrested.
Mayor.
Speaker 9 (08:27):
Johnson, I prosecute folks that commit crimes like
that.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
You guys let them out on the streets, mayor Johnson.
Speaker 10 (08:31):
We arrest violent criminals in the city of Chicago
.
Speaker 11 (08:33):
Mayor Wu, we investigate arrest and prosecute
.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
You guys don't sound very confident today.
Would your city honor Adams,yes or no?
In?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
conformance with law, we will honor detainees Mayor.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Johnson.
Speaker 9 (08:51):
If there's a criminal warrant, we'll help them pick
them up.
If there's no criminal warrant,we'll honor a notification
request.
Speaker 10 (08:56):
Mayor Johnson Criminal warrants.
We always cooperate withfederal agents with a criminal
warrant.
Speaker 11 (09:02):
Mayor Wu Get a criminal warrant, we will
enforce.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
A criminal warrant.
I'm talking about an eyesdetainer on an individual who's
here illegal, who rapes kids.
Do you all hate Donald Trumpmore than you love your country,
Mayor Adams?
Speaker 8 (09:18):
I respect my president, I respect my yes or
no?
Speaker 6 (09:21):
you're having the hardest time today, mayor
Johnston.
Speaker 9 (09:23):
I love my country, yes or no I?
Speaker 6 (09:24):
love having the hardest time today, mayor
Johnston.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
I love my country.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Yes or no, I love my country, mayor Johnson.
Speaker 10 (09:29):
As a son of a pastor , I love everyone and this
country.
Speaker 11 (09:33):
Mayor, will I love my country and my city?
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Are you all willing to go to jail for violating
federal law?
Mayor Adams.
I'm not gonna violate federallaw, so I don't have to worry
about that, mayor Johnston.
Speaker 9 (09:48):
We don't violate federal law either.
You don't violate federal lawwe do not violate federal law.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Is it violating federal law if you don't honor
detainer requests from ICE?
Speaker 9 (09:57):
Absolutely not.
In fact, the statuteCongressman Biggs shared we
explicitly follow the statutesays you cannot prohibit city
employees from sharinginformation about someone's
status with the government.
We do not prohibit that.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Do you love illegal aliens more than you love your
fellow countrymen?
Speaker 9 (10:11):
I love all the residents of the city and county
.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
Mayor Johnston, are you willing to go to jail for
violating federal law?
Speaker 10 (10:17):
The city of Chicago complies with all laws.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Oh.
Speaker 11 (10:20):
I highly doubt that, mayor Wu.
We are not violating federallaw.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Mayor Wu, I have a last couple questions for you.
Do you believe that ICEarresting a child rapist quote
threatens everyone's safety?
End quote yes or no, no?
Does ICE arresting a murderousMS-13 gang member threaten
everyone's safety?
Yes or no?
Speaker 13 (10:43):
No.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
I would like to hold up this quote of you where you
say ICE's efforts actuallythreaten the safety of everyone.
End quote, boston MayorMichelle Wu.
You're a hypocrite.
Thank you, mr Chairman, and Iyield back.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Chair recognizes Mr Chairman.
I have a unanimous consentrequest.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Mr Chairman, I have unanimous consent Proceed.
I'd like to have unanimousconsent request.
Mr.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Chairman, I have unanimous consent Proceed.
I'd like to seek unanimousconsent to enter into the record
this article and I'll do thisas a survivor of sexual violence
myself.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I don't impress you.
This is from Quartz.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
March 2018.
Without objection, so ordered.
Data from Texas shows that USborn and Without objection.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
so ordered, We've put it in the record.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I haven't entered it.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
You have what.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Mr Jerry, I have several articles.
I need to enter them.
Let me just go ahead with whatthe articles are.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
What's the next article?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Let me proceed.
Data from Texas shows that USborn Americans commit more rape
and murder than immigrants.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Listen, this trend of you all trying to get thrown
out of committees so you can geton MSNBC is going to end.
We're not going to put up withit.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
This is my procedural right as a member of this
committee to enter documentsinto the record.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
I am reclaiming my time.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
You do not get to dictate how I recite the
articles for the record.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
You can go with Mr Frost and Mr Green.
I am reclaiming my time.
You do not get to dictate how Irecite the articles for the
record.
Mr Subramaniam, it's 5 o'clockand I take particular umbrage as
a survivor of sexual violence.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
I will enter into the record.
This is my right.
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
No.
No, it is Mr Subramaniam, mrChair.
No, no, it is Mr Subramaniam,mr Chair.
No, you know the process ofunanimous consent.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
You are not recognized.
I have several articles toenter into the record.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Mr Subramaniam, if you don't go, we're going to
recognize Mr Timmons.
Chair recognizes Mr Donaldsfrom Florida.
Thank you, Chairman.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Uh-oh.
Speaker 12 (12:57):
Family.
Uh-oh, hang on, hang on, hangon.
Thank you, chairman.
Talking about illegalimmigration and oversight the
entire time, I remember we had agroup of this committee that
went down to the El Paso sectionof the border this was back in
February, march of 2021.
And during that time period wewere at one of the holding
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centers and there were thesebuses that were coming to the
detention facility and they werepicking up 30 kids, 50 kids, at
random, walking out of thefacility.
And when I went over toquestion the bus driver that was
transporting these kids, borderagents told me, as a member of
Congress, that you're notallowed to question the bus
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driver and, of course, peopleknowing me.
I didn't take no for an answerand I repeated the question and
I was told that this bunch ofchildren was leaving El Paso and
going to San Diego, and so whatwas occurring under the Biden
administration is that they werebusing unaccompanied minors all
across the press to see thepictures of kids in cages.
They did not want to see ourborders being overrun.
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They wanted to disperse thatproblem all through the United
States.
That is the reckless history ofillegal immigration under Joe
Biden and the Democrat Party.
Mayor Johnston of Denver youlamented earlier that there were
10 to 11 buses coming per dayto your city.
Did you ever talk to Joe Bidenabout why this was happening to
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your community?
Speaker 9 (14:33):
Thank you, Congressman.
I both reached out to GovernorAbbott from Texas.
He didn't respond and I did?
Speaker 12 (14:38):
Why would you reach out to Governor Abbott of Texas
when it is Joe Biden, the formercommander in chief, that opened
up our borders?
Why didn't you talk to him?
Speaker 9 (14:45):
Well, our buses directly were being sent from
Governor Abbott in Texas.
So that was why we reached outto say we're happy to
collaborate on a coordinatedentry system.
We understand no one state orno one city should bear the
entire brunt of this, but let'scollaborate.
Speaker 12 (14:56):
But I did so I'm glad you I'm glad you said that
because that brings me to mynext point Governor Abbott and
Governor DeSantis when theystarted moving illegal aliens
out of their states, who werebearing the brunt of what Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris weredoing, and they've sent them to
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Denver, they sent them toChicago, they sent them to New
York.
You four could hide, hidebehind the realities of illegal
immigration on border towns allthrough our country and on
cities and states who did notwant to see illegal immigration
but did not have the politicalrepresentation to go to the
White House.
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And only when it showed up onyour doorstep did you get upset.
Mayor Johnston, coming back toyou, how much did your city
spend on illegal immigration?
Do you have a round number?
Speaker 9 (15:48):
Over the last couple of years on all newcomers,
whatever their status was.
It's around 79 million since2022.
Speaker 12 (15:53):
Seventy nine million , mayor Johnson, chicago.
How much is the city of Chicagospent on illegal immigration?
Speaker 10 (15:59):
Referring to the 2022 up to 2024 of the buses
coming from Texas, roughly thesame percentage of the state of
Texas about 1% of our overallbudget.
Speaker 12 (16:10):
What is that?
Because we don't have thecity's budget in front of me.
Numbers.
Speaker 10 (16:14):
It's 1%, and if you want the actual calculation, we
can make sure someone.
Speaker 12 (16:17):
You're the mayor.
You don't have the math infront of you.
Speaker 10 (16:18):
It's 1% of the overall budget over the last
four years, which is the samenumber that was sent from us,
from the state of Texas.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Mayor Johnson Family.
He was on Johnson's bumper likea dog.
He drug him like a rag dolljust now and he's not finished.
Listen up, listen up.
Speaker 12 (16:42):
I already asked you.
You don't have a hard number,and if you don't have a hard
number, you're not running yourcity.
Well, Mayor.
Adams, how much did the city ofNew York actually spend on
illegal immigration?
6.9 billion of taxpayers 6.9billion dollars of taxpayer
money.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Remember that number, family, that was Mayor Adams in
New York 6.9 billion dollarsspent on foreign nationals that
were here illegally, came acrossthe border illegally.
6.9 billion, not for the stateof New York, for the city we're
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going to.
I'm going to touch on that in alittle bit, but we want to get
through this, come back andvisit that, but remember that
number.
But remember that number.
Remember that number $6.9billion.
Almost $7 billion In the city.
The five boroughs not LongIsland, Nassau, Suffolk County,
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Bronx, Manhattan, Brooklyn,Queens, Staten Island almost $7
billion.
Remember that number, family,but let us continue Back to it,
Back to it.
Speaker 12 (17:53):
Money on a problem that was fostered on the
American people.
Mayor Wu, in the city of Boston, how much did you spend?
Speaker 11 (18:02):
We don't ask about immigration status and
delivering citizens.
Speaker 12 (18:04):
You don't ask about how much money the city of
Boston has spent on illegalimmigration.
Speaker 11 (18:08):
Are you out of immigration status?
Do you manage your budget ornot, mayor?
That is how we keep our state.
Mayor Wu, do you manage yourbudget or not?
We have the numbers to prove it.
I manage my budget.
I have a triple A bond ratingdating back 10 years.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
So to the city of Boston just understand that your
mayor does not care how much ofyour resources she has spent on
people who are not citizens.
Speaker 11 (18:26):
The city of Boston is sick of having people outside
Boston.
Speaker 12 (18:30):
Mr Behr, I have a question for you because I
understand Cato's perspectivewhen it comes to illegal
immigration.
I understand that the CatoInstitute for a long time has
had a standard of actuallyhaving open immigration into the
United States, Generallyspeaking I don't want to get
into specifics we support legalimmigration.
We want immigration to be legal.
So let me ask you this question,because one of the great
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libertarians of the modern era,Milton Friedman, famously said
you can either have open bordersor a welfare state, but you
have to choose.
Mr Beer, what do you choose?
Speaker 15 (19:01):
Milton Friedman said he wanted to allow a legal
immigration to continue.
I disagree with MiltonFriedman's position on that.
We should have legalimmigration and build a wall
around the welfare state, notaround the country.
That's in the best interest oftaxpayers.
Speaker 12 (19:15):
And I would argue that under the current system,
where you have sanctuary citiespopping up, it is not possible
to build that wall.
So America has to choose.
Mr Beer, you're done.
America has to choose betweensecuring our nation or you're
done.
America has to choose betweensecuring our nation or
protecting the taxpayer.
I choose secure the nation, Iyield back.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Chair Rick, it has Mr Gill from Texas.
Speaker 16 (19:34):
Thank you, mr Chairman, for holding this
hearing on such an importanttopic.
Mayor Johnson, I want to startwith you.
One of your first actions asmayor was establishing a deputy
mayor for immigrant, migrant andrefugee rights.
I want to ask you a series ofquestions.
If you could answer with a yesor no answer, that'd be great.
First of all, do you supportallowing illegal aliens to
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obtain driver's licenses?
Just yes or no?
Speaker 10 (20:06):
So the city of Chicago has been a welcoming
city for over 40 years.
Speaker 16 (20:09):
I'll take that as a yes.
Next question that's the policythat we will hold to.
Do you support tax dollarssubsidizing or paying for the
health care of illegal aliens?
Speaker 10 (20:19):
I support investments in all residents of
the people of Chicago and that'swhat I do.
Speaker 16 (20:23):
That's a yes as well .
Do you support free or reducedcollege for illegal aliens?
Speaker 10 (20:30):
Again, I support the investments of all residents,
of the people of Chicago.
Speaker 16 (20:33):
That is a yes.
Next question Do you supportallowing non-citizens to vote in
local elections?
Again?
Speaker 10 (20:40):
I'm not over the jurisdiction of that type of law
but again, I'm committed toinvesting in all residents of
the people of Chicago.
Speaker 16 (20:48):
I'll take that as yes.
I've got an article from theChicago Sun-Times and I'll quote
here briefly.
Johnson proposed, among otherthings, that all residents,
regardless of citizenship status, be able to vote for Chicago
Board of Education members.
Next question your websitestates and this is your campaign
website quote I will not stopfighting until abortion access
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is completely secure for peopleall over the country.
End quote.
Yes or no?
Do you support taxpayer-fundedabortions for illegal aliens?
Speaker 10 (21:20):
I support the reproductive rights of all
people.
Speaker 16 (21:23):
That is a yes as well.
Your mayoral transition websitementioned support for creating
a Chicago Board of Educationnon-citizen advisory board.
Again, yes or no?
Do you support appointingnon-citizens to government
advisory boards?
Speaker 10 (21:39):
I was invited here today to discuss welcoming
cities.
Yes or no?
I was invited here to discusswelcoming cities, yes or no.
Speaker 16 (21:45):
If you're interested in asking any questions about
the welcoming city, I'm happy toanswer those questions.
No, we're going to move on.
As you know, president Trump,unlike the previous
administration, has takenserious action to bring foreign
criminal gangs to justice, totake our border back and to
restore public safety in ourcommunities.
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He designated eighttransnational criminal
organizations and cartels asforeign terrorist organizations.
These are groups like Trende,aragua, MS-13, sinaloa some of
the most grotesque and ruthlessand brutal organizations in the
world and brutal organizationsin the world.
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You, as mayor of a sanctuarycity, have been virtually giving
favors to illegal aliens.
Apparently, you support anenormous amount of taxpayer
resources going to them as well,but you yourself have also
received a lot of gifts and, forthose of you who don't know,
mayor Johnson has a secret giftroom that is not given access to
the public or for access to theOffice of Inspector General.
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I'd like to ask you a couplequestions about that.
Do you know everyone who'sgiven you a gift since you
became mayor?
The city of Chicago has had apolicy for 40 years where there
are individuals that would liketo give gifts to the city of
Chicago.
I'm going to take that as a no,and we do not accept those
gifts.
When did you become mayor?
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Now I'm going to reclaim mytime here Of the city of Chicago
.
You're not going to filibusterhere.
When did you become mayor?
When did you become?
Speaker 10 (23:24):
mayor.
I was elected mayor of the cityof Chicago in May I'm sorry, in
April of 2023, and I was swornin May 15th of 2023.
Speaker 16 (23:36):
On June 12th 2023, you received Hugo Boss cufflinks
and a personalized Mont Blancpin.
Do you know who gave you those?
Speaker 10 (23:45):
So I did not receive those personally.
The city of Chicago receivedthem.
You received those on behalf ofthe city of Chicago, and that's
right.
On behalf of the city ofChicago.
Speaker 16 (23:51):
I understand the difference as every mayor in the
history of.
Speaker 10 (23:53):
Chicago.
Who has provided gifts to thecity of Chicago?
Speaker 16 (23:57):
Do you know who gave those to the city of Chicago?
Speaker 10 (24:00):
So again, on behalf of the city of Chicago there are
gifts for our residents, but Ido not accept.
Those are not my personal gifts.
Those are the gifts of the cityof Chicago and that's why you
are aware that they existbecause they are within the law.
Speaker 16 (24:12):
I'm here, sir.
On March 18th 2024, youreceived a Gucci tote bag.
Do you know who gave you thatGave?
The city of.
Speaker 10 (24:19):
Chicago.
That, ken.
I was here and I was invited torespond to the questions around
welcoming cities.
Speaker 16 (24:26):
I and I was invited to respond to the questions
around welcoming cities.
I'm happy to answer any ofthose questions.
A big Da Vinci bag, a KateSpade purse and Carucci shoes Do
you know who gave the city ofChicago those?
Again, I was brought.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I'll take that as.
Wait a minute.
What Are you serious?
Are you serious?
Back to it, back to it.
I'm not going to interrupt itagain, hold on.
Speaker 16 (24:46):
Back, Back to it, back to it.
I'm not going to interrupt itagain.
Hold on back to it.
I'm reclaiming my time here,sir I am reclaiming my time.
Speaker 10 (24:50):
This raises serious ethical concerns.
Speaker 16 (24:53):
You are providing an enormous amount of aid to
illegal aliens, aiding andabetting criminals who have come
into our country illegally, andyou yourself are receiving an
enormous amount of gifts and youwon't even tell us who they're
coming from.
This is serious ethical concernrule gentlemen, I'd like to ask
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for unanimous consent to enterinto the record the city of
chicago office of inspectorgeneral advisory concerning
gifts accepted on behalf of thecity, without.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Without objection.
So ordered.
Speaker 16 (25:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Chair, Mr Jack from Georgia.
Speaker 17 (25:28):
Mr Chairman, thank you for convening this hearing
and I'd like to begin byoffering some thoughts about our
colleague from Texas,congressman Sylvester Turner,
who sadly just passed away.
As some of you may know,congressman Turner was a former
two-term mayor of Houston and,as our witnesses can no doubt
attest, being the mayor of a bigcity is not easy.
Congressman Turner was a memberof our freshman class and his
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office is right next to mine andthe Longworth House Office
building and as such, I had anopportunity to walk with him to
and from votes, found him to bean incredible gentleman.
With respect and courtesy, mycolleagues across the aisle,
particularly the freshmen, knewCongressman Turner better than I
, so I certainly yield to themon this topic, but I wanted to
at least mention my own thoughtsfor the record.
Now to the topic of today'shearing.
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I prepared for today's hearingby chatting with some of the
mayors from my district, fromthose who represent just a few
hundred to those who represent afew thousand and I found a
common theme of frustration.
They, along with me and manyother constituents I proudly
represent in Georgia's thirdcongressional district, want to
know why policies are in placethat benefit citizens of other
countries at the expense ofcitizens of our own country.
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So if I could, mayor Johnson,I'd like to start with you from
Denver.
I know Chairman Comer and hisopening line of questioning
discussed an ordinance passed bythe Denver City Council in 2017
, and I recognize you would justlet the state Senate by then.
Passed by the Denver CityCouncil in 2017, and I recognize
you would just let the statesenate by then.
But this ordinance prohibitscity and county employees from
assisting the enforcement offederal laws or inquiring about
a person's immigration status.
So I just have to ask do yousee a benefit in learning
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whether or not someone chargedwith a crime is a citizen of
another country?
Speaker 9 (27:01):
Thank you, congressman.
I do just want to say MayorTurner hosted me in Houston when
I first became mayor, so that'sa powerful statement from me.
Thank you for acknowledging it.
Thank you, sir.
We don't ask someone's statuswhen we first contact them,
because it's not relevant towhatever charges we may be
pursuing.
They may list their country oforigin on a document that we ask
for.
It does not indicate theirimmigration status.
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They could have legal statusbut be from another country.
Speaker 17 (27:25):
Mayor Johnson of Chicago, do you see a benefit in
asking someone charged with acrime whether or not they're a
citizen of our country?
Speaker 10 (27:32):
The benefit of community safety is trust
between local residents and lawenforcement, and that
relationship is critical todriving violence down.
Under my leadership, violencehas gone down in the city of
Chicago.
Speaker 17 (27:43):
And Mayor Johnson, if I can ask, have you ever
disciplined, fired or arrestedlaw enforcement officers or
correction officers if theynotified ICE or other federal
immigration officers of anillegal criminal alien in lockup
or courts, in violation of yoursanctuary city policies?
Have you ever disciplined,fired or arrested a law
enforcement officer that workedwith ICE?
Speaker 10 (28:04):
That is not.
I don't believe.
That's under the jurisdictionof the mayor.
I don't arrest people.
Speaker 17 (28:09):
Are there issued memos in which you direct
Chicago officers from notassisting with enforcement,
immigration law or helping ICEidentify folks who may not be
here legally?
Speaker 10 (28:21):
We do have documentation around making sure
that the residents of the cityof Chicago know their rights.
That's important because itbuilds trust between law
enforcement and community.
By having that confidence andtrust, people are more likely to
come forward to report violentcrime, regardless of their
immigration status.
Speaker 17 (28:38):
Well, I have to submit to the record, Mr
Chairman, an article from NewsNation now, January 21st 2025,
in which it says Chicago policereminded they cannot cooperate
with deportations.
And if I may, ask Mayor arethere any memos that direct
Chicago police to not cooperatewith President Trump's
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deportation plans?
Speaker 10 (29:00):
Well, there's so local law enforcement.
We're not federal agents.
So local law enforcement in thecity of Chicago they do not dub
as federal agents.
Speaker 17 (29:12):
But that having been said from your mayoral office,
have you ever issued memos tothe police department
instructing them not tocooperate with President Trump?
Speaker 10 (29:20):
We remind people of what the welcoming city
ordinance entails.
Speaker 17 (29:24):
Would you submit to the family?
They got him they got him rightthere.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
They got him.
They got him right there.
People, of what the welcomingcity ordinance entails, would
you submit to the family?
They got him.
They got him right there.
They got him, they got himright there.
This dude might go to jail ifthey press him.
If they press him, he might goto jail.
They got him.
What he just answered.
The question the man asked himis there a directive from your
office as mayor, is there adirective from your office, from
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your desk?
And you heard what he answered.
They got him right there.
I don't know if they go down.
They said they're going to.
That woman says she's going toput in the hearing the reports
from the hearing to Pam Bundy,who is the Justice Department,
the DOJ.
These folks might be in sometrouble Now.
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They grilled Eric Adams up here.
The Democrats, the Democraticcongressmen, drilled him.
They nailed him up here.
I don't know if I'm going toplay the whole thing.
Let's see.
Speaker 17 (30:19):
Let's see where we're at Come on Any written
documentation to the ChicagoPolice Department as it relates
to this.
Speaker 10 (30:25):
For the welcoming city ordinance.
We're happy to make sure thatthis body has that ordinance and
that policy has been around for40 years.
Speaker 17 (30:32):
Thank you very much, Mayor Wu.
Back to my line of questioningwith Mayor Johnston and John
Sten.
Do you believe that if you areasking someone who's been
charged with a crime whether ornot they're here in our country
legally, is that a proper andbeneficial thing to do?
Speaker 11 (30:51):
The laws of Massachusetts and the Boston
Trust Act help Boston policesolve crimes.
We do not ask for immigrationstatus because it allows for
people to trust that when theycall 911, when they have
information that might helpbring justice to another family
that they feel comfortablesharing that.
Speaker 17 (31:07):
Thank you, mayor Adams.
Opposing Obviously you know thepolice very well.
Do you see a benefit in askingfolks who have been charged with
a crime whether or not they'rea legal citizen?
Yes, I do With that, mrChairman.
I yield back.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Chair recognizes Ms Green from Georgia.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Thank you, mr Chairman, thank you for coming
before our committee today.
I'm going to fast forward thisIn the past four years, our
nation has been invaded bymillions and millions of people
who have crossed our border.
There's also millions of— —ofChicago, the excerpts of Chicago
representing Rockford,bloomington, normal, peoria, and
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I want to thank you, mrChairman, for having this
hearing.
It's past time that individualslike the mayors we have before
us come before us and explain tothe American people why you
continue to fail to enforce thelaws of our country and allow
illegal immigrants to flood intoour communities, and it's clear
to me that sanctuary citypolicies have significantly
harmed our once great cities,which is very, very unfortunate.
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During my time as an electedofficial, I have strongly
condemned the policy aroundsanctuary cities and the impact
it's had on the state ofIllinois, and I believe every
sensible resident in Illinoisknows these policies have
further harmed the economy inIllinois, increased crime
throughout our state andendangered hardworking,
law-abiding Illinois citizens.
I want to turn my attention toyou, mayor Brandon Johnson of
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Chicago.
As I've watched you over thelast two years that you've been
mayor, I've been amazed at howtone-deaf you have been and how
oblivious you've been to thedecline of Chicago, and I say
that looking objectively at anumber of things Out of control
crime in Chicago, people scaredthroughout neighborhoods on the
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west side, south side, northside.
Morale has never been lower,with law enforcement and CPD.
Record number of policeofficers leaving the force.
We have been hemorrhagingpeople out of the city of
Chicago to the suburbs andelsewhere where they feel safe.
Record number of businessesfleeing the city of Chicago.
You couple that with recorddeficits $2 billion deficit line
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of credit that you just had totake out this week, but you've
spent $300 million of taxpayermoney on illegal immigrants.
And when I think about all ofthose things and I look at the
strategy you continue to take, Imean you're putting the
interest of illegal immigrantsabove the interest of taxpayers
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in Chicago, but you continue togo down this path and for the
life of me I can't understand it.
So, mayor, tell me why youcontinue to go down this path.
And for the life of me, I can'tunderstand it.
So, mayor, tell me why youcontinue to put the interests of
illegal immigrants abovetaxpayers in Chicago.
Speaker 10 (33:55):
Thank you for your representation.
Violent crime is down inChicago.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Well, let me reclaim my time.
So I have a statistic here.
Last year Chicago had 573murders Down.
Okay, but I want to comparethat to the city of New York,
that is almost two thirds thesize of Chicago.
337 murders.
So you had 573 murders in thecity of Chicago and you're one
third the size.
Speaker 10 (34:19):
That's the lowest amount in five years under my
leadership.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Okay, and you look at the level of violent criminals,
sexual offenses and drugdealers All violent crime is
down in Chicago.
Speaker 10 (34:30):
In fact, just this year alone, congressman
respectfully, there's a 20%decrease in violent crime in the
city of Chicago.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I don't agree with your statistics.
Speaker 10 (34:39):
Well, it's not a matter of whether or not you
agree with it.
Let me reclaim my time.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Because I thought you might do this, and when I hear
your answer, no one in this roomshould be surprised that your
approval rating is 6.6%.
Now that's not just me sayingthis Newsweek article.
The least popular politician inAmerica is Brandon Johnson.
So recent poll, m3 strategies,conducted this February 20th to
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21st, showed that Mayor Johnsonhas a 6.6% approval rating, the
worst showing of any politicalfigure in the country's history.
So I know you're talking about.
Crime is down and things aregreat, and you know the city's
flush with money.
None of that is backed up bythe people in the city of
Chicago.
None of that is backed up bythe people in the city of
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chicago, and so I'm wonderingwhy you continue to go down this
path of failed policies,destruction to the city of
chicago, people fleeing lawenforcement at an all-time low,
and I'm wondering if you haveany remorse for that here today
and can tell us why you continueto double down on these failed
policies.
Speaker 10 (35:52):
We've invested $1.25 billion for housing and
economic development,particularly for black Chicago.
It's the largest investment inthe history of Chicago 45%
increase in youth employment,particularly for black and brown
children.
I will not apologize for myinvestments in the people of
Chicago.
We have one of the most diverseeconomies, the top universities
.
As violence continues to godown and investments continue to
go up, that is what's mostimportant.
We've opened up three mentalhealth clinics the first mayor
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since the first black mayor inthe history of Chicago to
actually invest in public healthand I will continue to make
those investments.
Your approval rating speaksvolumes.
Well, the people approve of myinvestments and I will continue
to make those investments.
You're going the wrongdirection.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
You need to reverse your policies on sanctuary
cities.
That's what the electionresults were last year Crime and
immigration were the number oneissue in the election from
Republicans, Democrats.
Speaker 10 (36:41):
We could use your help to actually help us
continue to invest in theseprograms that continue to drive
violence down in the city ofChicago, and I'm willing to work
with you and I'm glad I had achance to finally meet you for
the first time.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Gentlemen's time has expired.
Chair recognizes Ms Stansburyfrom New Mexico.
Speaker 18 (36:57):
All right.
Well, thank you, Mr Chairman.
I always think that we shouldsage this room after these
hearings because we hear a lotof crazy stuff in here.
But let me start out by sayingmayors, welcome to our committee
.
Thank you for serving yourcities and your people.
I have to say, as also anelected official, you have the
hardest job in America, MrChairman.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Without objection to order.
Speaker 7 (37:19):
Thank you On page.
Or let's see section 4AA.
A law enforcement official andemployment of the city,
department, agency or commissionshall not.
And then A inquire of anindividual on his or her
immigration status Under TitleVIII US Code, subsection 1373,
stipulates that localgovernments cannot prohibit or
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restrict communication withfederal immigration authorities
regarding individuals'immigration status.
So your enforcement of this actis in direct violation of that
statute.
Can you please confirm that isnot the truth.
Speaker 11 (37:51):
Thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
That's the US Code.
I don't know about you, but USCode does not lie.
Speaker 11 (37:54):
We do not ask about immigration status, and that is
what makes us safe in the cityMore.
Next question.
Speaker 7 (37:58):
Mayor Johnston, you said in your testimony that the
first step you took afterillegal aliens arrived was to
provide them with housing.
Is that correct, yes or no?
Speaker 9 (38:07):
Folks that were on the streets freezing to death.
We gave access to shelter.
Yes, we did.
Speaker 7 (38:10):
Thank you Not to be rude here, but you have a good
understanding of what.
The definition of harboring iscorrect.
I do.
Okay For those that might not.
Harboring means to knowingly orrecklessly provide shelter or
place to stay for an illegalalien, and according to Title
VIII of US Code, Subsection 1324, that is also a federal crime.
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Just to be clear, did you alsosay that you would be willing to
go to jail to stop deportationefforts?
Speaker 9 (38:39):
I did say that I'd be willing to stand up for all of
our residents, and the contextwas that was the point at which
the administration wasthreatening to deploy the US
military to streets of ourcities to pull kids out of
schools and churches.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
So we were worried about that.
Thank you, Mr Johnson.
Mr Chairman, I'd like to enterinto the record an article from
CBS.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Without objection to order.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
Thank you.
In this it says Johnson saidearlier this week that he's
willing to use civildisobedience and, if necessary,
going to jail, to stopdeportations.
My final question would be foryou, mayor Johnson Do you
believe that Chicago's welcomingcity ordinance encourages
illegal aliens to enter theUnited States, specifically into
Chicago?
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Yes or no?
Speaker 10 (39:19):
No, okay.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
So you don't believe that banning the transfer of
individuals into ICE custody forthe purpose of civil
immigration enforcementencourages illegal immigration
into Chicago?
Or how about agencies sorry onesecond.
Or agents not being able tostop, arrest or detain
individuals based solely ontheir immigration status or
administrative warrant?
Speaker 10 (39:39):
So we comply with all laws, local, state and
federal.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
To me after this line of questioning.
It's very clear that thesepolicies that you have all
implicated are active and aliveand well in your cities, are in
direct violation with US TitleVIII Code Subsection 1324 and is
a federal offense.
But you all speak about a brokenimmigration system and yet here
you guys are aiding andabetting in that entire process.
I want to be very clear aboutsomething Open border policies,
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which is something here you guysare aiding and abetting in that
entire process.
I want to be very clear aboutsomething Open border policies,
which is something that you guysare talking about, hurts people
on both sides, meaning thepeople that are coming here
illegally and then Americancitizens as well.
I do not think you guys are badpeople, but I think that you
are ideologically misled, whichis why, unfortunately, based on
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your responses, I'm all going tobe criminally referring you to
the Department of Justice forinvestigation and as soon as I
leave here, these will be goingover to Pam Bondi.
I'm not doing that to an effortto bully you guys, but I do
believe that your policies arehurting the American people and
you can make that known with theevidence that you can present.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Okay, you heard her.
As soon as she leaves there,she's sending that over to the
DOJ All right Family.
I didn't play AOC grillingMayor Brandon Eric Adams of New
York City, but she gave him agrilling and so did the other
Democrats, because he's playingcards now with Tom Holman, the
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border czar under the Trumpadministration.
But it was a rough day for,especially for Brandon Johnson
and Mayor Eric Adams, the twoblack and mayors up there mayor
of New York City and the mayorof Chicago Illinois.
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Those were the two.
There were four of them upthere.
The mayor from Boston, the woollady, and Johnston, a white man
from Denver, the mayor of Denver, and then you had Eric Adams
and Brandon Johnson and they hadthey got banged up the roughest
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and that's where we at with thefamily.
But I thought that would beproper and interesting.
I found it very interesting.
I watched it and I watched iton purpose.
But I want to touch on familyis the let me get some music
back up in here real quick.
What I wanted to touch on wasthe.
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Was the um that, that that 6.9billion dollars spent here in
new york city?
Right, let me get these levelsright.
Okay, yeah, I wanted to talkabout that because that when I
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heard that they he spit thatthat statistic off, I hit the
ceiling.
I hit the ceiling and I wentinto attack mode right away.
I called, called Divine Me andDivine Me playing phone tag this
last week.
You know he's the chair over atthe United States Freedmen's
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Project and that's my brother Iwork.
You know I'm down with thatbrother man and you know we
together on things.
He texts me and he was likecause, when I hit him with it,
he, he texts me right back andhe was like, yeah, me and you on
the same page with that.
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See, right now, new York city,new York state, rather, we have
the um, the the reparationshearings, going on.
The commission, they have areparations commission going on
and they just had a meeting upthere in Rochester, new York.
I didn't make that, I didn'tmake it.
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I went to the one back inOctober I think that was October
5th of 2024, but they just hadone, I think a week or two ago
in Rochester, new York, and Iwant to find that because the
sister laid into them up there.
The sister laid into them andlet me find that real quick, let
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me find that real quick, let mefind that real quick.
Where's she going to find that?
Speaker 14 (44:04):
In California it's still the same thing.
It's a waste of time and I'm soglad that FBA brothers and
sisters are really calling thisout.
And in New York you had a greatFBA sister that went up there
and just told them aboutthemselves, told them what
they're doing.
It's a waste of time and you'regoing to listen to how they're
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trying to crowbar immigrantsinto this, which ain't no
immigrant went through slaverywithout ancestors.
Let's go ahead and check thisout.
Speaker 13 (44:34):
To the commission.
You were set up to fail.
Other commissions had executivedirectors, staff, research and
legal teams.
You weren't even allowed tospeak to each other before being
sworn in.
Does that include relatives oris that a conflict?
Anyway, if you know the law, youknow that this bill and this
commission is a time-wasting,heel-spinning joke.
More democratic symbolism oversubstance.
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Why pass a blatantly illegal,unconstitutional bill than use
taxpayer funds for a commission?
Commissioners may not begetting paid, but other staff
and researchers are.
Race-based compensation willnever become law, and this isn't
just a valid point.
It's constitutional law and, aswe have seen with the
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overturning of DEI andaffirmative action, labeling it
African descent doesn't changeits race-based nature.
Legislators can pass bills, butthat doesn't mean they'll
survive legal scrutiny Legalscrutiny like Ed Blum, who is
laser-focused on knocking thisbill down.
The Freedmen Project went tolegislators and told them that
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they got it wrong.
They told them they wanted itamended.
They told them to repeal theexisting bill currently signed
into law.
The freedmen came in hand witha constitutional bill with the
recipients, based on our legalstatus as freedmen.
They went around to differentlegislators and the assembly and
state senate.
They talked to them, they satwith them.
They sent letters and phonecalls, but due to what I can
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only assume is the inability oflegislators to see themselves
benefiting from this legal bill,we faced what we always face in
this country, except this timeit's from skinfolk proving in
action that they aren't thekinfolk of the FBA freedmen.
How telling is it that we'regetting the same treatment as we
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have with other legislators whodon't share our skin?
How does this free us?
I guess the legislators wouldbe unqualified to tell us, or
they are purposely sabotagingour reparations because they do
not have a bill that's worth ahill of beans.
So there may be only 44 millionof us, but we are 44 million
who are used to fighting and Idon't mean to sound pejorative,
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but we are 44 million who don'trun from a fight.
Foundational black Americanimpact and influence.
Our presence over power is soeffective in fighting that
people immigrate here from allover the world to benefit from
the fruits and gains of thecivil rights that we fought and
died for.
Since this bill is alreadydeader than a doornail, I come
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to speak before my neighbors.
I come to serve you.
Notice that when this bill dies, we, the FBA freedmen, will
remain standing and fighting aswe have for centuries on this
land drenched in our blood, and,in closing, including your
report, that this bill isunconstitutional and illegal and
isn't worth the paper it'swritten on, and you know it.
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Have a good day.
Thank you, brooke.
We appreciate your testimony,woo.
Speaker 14 (47:31):
Woo Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo man.
Speaker 13 (47:38):
Fair use.
Speaker 14 (47:38):
Just to say it was so spot on.
And let me tell you somethingwe need more people like that
out there in these cities.
Come and deliver that message.
And let me tell you somethingwe need more people like that
out there in these cities.
Come and deliver that messageand let them know that, see, the
worst thing they could havegave black folk was access to
each other and access to theInternet.
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Because, see, what they're notused to is now.
We like to read, we like toresearch, we like to find out
about the law, we like to findout about the law, we like to
find out about the constitution.
And so when we do talk to you,it's going to be with something
of education, it's not going tobe this talk out your head.
See that previous generation.
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They could have did this and ithad been okay.
Yeah, you know, yeah, blackpeople in those, she said,
african descent, trying tocrowbar in immigrants, right.
And then the Democrats werelike, yeah, we passed
reparations, come both for us.
And then, when the Republicansgo to court on it, they were
like, oh man, well, we tried,but the but man, the meaner
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Republicans struck it down.
But they knew when they set itup that way, it was going to get
struck down.
So they're playing both sides.
The Democrats know what they'redoing when they're trying to
make it race-based.
They know good and well has tobe lineage-based.
They know that.
And the term freedman is a termfor us.
That's already in the federallanguage.
We had a Freedman's Bureauright.
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So it has to be for thefreedmen.
You have to put that language.
You can't say black, you can'tsay African American, you can't
say anything like that.
You have to say freedmen, youhave to say lineage based,
because if you do it off ofcolor it's going to get struck
down.
And if you did it off of color,well, anybody can come in and
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say I'm black.
I just saw a story the other day.
He had some white peopletalking about oh, we did our DNA
.
Finally, we was 2% Nigerian.
So then they went to Nigeriatelling people hey, I'm 2%
Nigerian.
And then he went over theregetting some little plaque from
them and dressing some Nigerianclothes.
I shook my head at that.
Two percent of anything is notwhat it is, but that's what
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they'll be doing If they allowedit to be race based.
You have white folk saying, hey, I'm three percent black.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
That means that's a good point Brother Phil brings
up in like said fair use.
By the way, that is a greatpoint that he brings up, because
right here in new york and andI haven't hooked up with divine
yet because he's busy, I'm busyand our schedules just are so
conflicting but we're gonna haveto put something to the side,
um and and get this thing, getthis, get, get on this thing,
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because those commissions are awaste of time.
Right here in New York Citythey allocated I think it was $5
million for this commission todo a study or whatever,
something similar to what theydid out in California.
Right, it ain't nothing but amoney grab for those people on
those commissions.
Because we know our history,the freedmen, our history is
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American history, we know whathappened.
It's strewn in the historybooks of America.
It is no matter what they takeout, or the educational
departments, and whatever theytake out, whatever books or
whatever they take out, likethat sister said, up there, our
blood is soaked in this soil.
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Soaked in the soil.
That's not going to changeanything.
You taking, not talking aboutit taking it out.
So these commissions are awaste of time and this is what I
want to get, with DivineWitness, the United States
Freedmen's Project.
I want to work with them to seeif we can circumvent these
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governors and take this thingstraight to Congress, because
these people are not doinganything.
They're not.
Those people on that reparationscommission are filled with
foreigners, either African orfrom the Caribbean, and those
people do not want us to have it.
The American blacks to have it.
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That's just a fact.
It may sound harsh, but that isthe fact of the matter.
They don't want us to have itbecause they are not included in
the claim.
It is a status-based claim forthe freedmen.
If you're from the continent ofAfrica or from anywhere in the
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Caribbean or any of those othernations, you do not qualify for
a freedman's claim.
You cannot trace your lineageback to the freedman and that's
the problem.
This is why they want to putthese foreigners in this one.
They have all these foreignpeople on these commissions
because they know they're notgoing to vote for a status-based
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or lineage-based.
I like to lean more towardsstatus because our status is
federally, federally recognized.
Stay with me on this one.
Speaker 8 (52:52):
Family, stay with me on this one all of y'all
listening to me, stay with me onthis one let's have at it.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
You just heard me, adams, I played it.
You heard it 6.9 billion in thecity of New York, not the state
, the city, but people.
Folks want to tell us webegging for what's ours.
You giving this money away toforeign nationals?
That ain't supposed to be here.
(53:20):
Y'all follow me, listen, we'renot going to stay too long on
this.
We're going to move on becausewe're running out of time and I
want to get y'all out of here.
But I played those things for areason and we had.
I'm not gonna play any clipsfrom it.
I was going to, but I'm not.
I want to talk about two thingsbefore we get out of here.
I was gonna talk about three,but one is not even important,
(53:45):
but I may brush it, but anyway,recently, last week, they had
the joint sessions of Congress,where President Trump gave his
address speech to the jointsession.
Right, family, any of you outthere, democrats, you have to be
ashamed If you're listening tome and you are in the Democratic
(54:08):
Party because I don't have aproblem with that that some of
y'all listening to me may beDemocrats.
You may be Republicans.
I'm an independent.
I'm not tied to.
I'm tied to policies.
That's what I'm about policy.
So the parties don't meananything to me, right?
But some of you may beDemocrats.
(54:28):
But I'm telling you, listen tome.
Well, I'm telling you you haveto be embarrassed.
You have to be embarrassed.
Those people got up there lastweek when that man gave his
speech to the joint sessions ofCongress.
Those people showed theirnatural behinds.
(54:49):
They got up there and cut afull family, cut a natural, full
up there.
It's so embarrassing.
Then you got that old Negro, alGreen I think he's from Texas,
congress, from Texas Got upthere and pulled that stunt.
(55:09):
I think it was staged that way.
He pulled that stunt and gotescorted out by the security
people there, the sergeant inarms or whoever was there.
They escorted him out.
He cut a fool and then he triedto say oh, they got me out of
there because I'm a black manand I'm like, shut up with that,
shut up with that.
(55:30):
Right Then, when they censoredhim, they censored him.
I think a couple of days later,a few days later, they censored
him in the Senate, in theCongress, in the Capitol Hill.
They censored him.
And you know, these fools got upthere and they started singing
(55:50):
we shall overcome.
It was cringeworthy.
What are y'all doing?
What are y'all doing?
We're not in 1962, no more.
That's over with.
This is why these young kids,the youth, they don't want to
hear nothing from y'all.
It's embarrassing.
(56:12):
They stood up there singing weShall Overcome the old Negro
spiritual right that they usedto march to when the king was
around, and all of them right.
Then you got this littlestinking.
What got this little stinking?
What's that little stinkingchick name?
What's her name?
(56:32):
Jasmine Crockett.
Jasmine Crockett, this littlemonkey, you know she's around
here and she talking real sassyand slick and jazzy.
All that sassy talk she talksand cursing and she's getting
more and more raunchy.
I heard they called emergency,the Democrats called emergency
(56:57):
censorship meeting and rippedinto a lot of them, her, al
Green and a few other them,because her language is just
atrocious.
Let me see, can I find it.
Let me see, can I find it.
Family, let me see, can I findit.
Just give you what I'm talkingabout, hold on.
Speaker 14 (57:15):
That doesn't mean that we don't have fight left in
our bodies, and so I am goingto fight him every step of the
way until we get what we deserve, because it was my ancestors
that built this motherfucker.
Okay, I'm done now.
Speaker 2 (57:30):
You see, that's a foul mouth.
That's a foul mouth, but she'sa little stinking chick and
she's on doing these little TikTok videos and every time you
turn around.
She called Donald Trump.
She told him to get a backboneand stop being Putin's hole.
That's what she said.
That's what she said.
That's what she said.
But see, that's how out of touchthey are family, because they
(57:54):
think all of that little ratchet, hood, rat, ignorant stuff is
supposed to be appealing to us.
So we could say now oh, look atJasmine Crocker, yeah, we
better go vote for the Democratsnow, see, she be telling them
off.
She be telling, yeah, she bestanding on business.
She's a little stinking monkey,little stinking chick man and
(58:18):
it's all an act.
This girl grew up in a goodhome, mother and father both
there in the home.
Her mother was a postal worker,her father was a Baptist
minister and a businessman.
She went to private school allher life.
And now you're out here talkingall this little ratchet, little
ignorant stuff that onlyappeals to ignorant people.
(58:41):
What you're doing, it don'tappeal to us.
You're not from the streets,miss.
No, you don't have that.
We can see right through that,right.
But yeah, we're gonna get readyto get out of here, family,
because I've been messing upwith the uh, with the sound
clips here.
You know, when I'm doing myresearch, everything is right
(59:02):
there.
Instead of me it bookmarking itand putting it in order, I try
to.
I'm trying to rush and dothings or whatever like that.
But listen, listen, listen,listen.
First of all, before I go, Iwant to, I want to all of you in
the United States, here, newYork, brooklyn, queens, bronx,
(59:23):
all over the United States,north Carolina, charlotte, those
of you out in the UK, those ofyou in the British Indian Ocean
Territory, big shout to you andsalute, keep coming back.
Aurora, colorado and all of youwho listening, keep coming back
(59:46):
.
Now.
I may not be back next week.
I got, I got some things I gotto take care of on a personal
level and I might be, I might beon a hiatus for a week or two.
I'm not sure yet, because I'llsay that and then I'll just get
it in me to get up and work.
Say that and then I'll just getit in me to get up here and
(01:00:08):
work.
So, but as it stands right now,I need a couple of a week or
two off because I got to takecare of some personal issues.
I don't want to alarm you oranything like that, so I'm not
going to say what it is, but I'mgoing to.
I'm going to need some downtimeto chill and get myself
together here, so I might notsee you for another week or two,
(01:00:29):
but we'll play it by ear.
That said, I want to get youready to let you go and hoping
you all go out there in peaceand keep the peace, and I was
going to report on the Stephen ALeBron James situation, but we
don't have time.
(01:00:49):
We want to get out of here andyeah, so that's what it's going
to be.
You know what?
Let me give y'all that.
Let me give y'all that.
Hold on, just give me a second.
Let me give y'all some of that,because you know I just can't
leave like that Hold on, got togive y'all some of that.
Let me give you some of that.
Last night I was in attendanceat the Knicks-Lakers game.
Speaker 8 (01:01:11):
I was sitting courtside where, during a
timeout I believe it was in thethird quarter I was confronted
by none other than LeBron Jameshimself.
Lebron has some choice wordsfor me in regards to comments
I've made prior about him inregards to his son, bronny James
(01:01:32):
.
Before I get any further, letme just put to bed a couple of
things that have been reportedthat are false.
People was talking about LeBroncalled me out my name, or
somebody else, or somebody saidhe called me a bitch, somebody
said he called me a punk, andall of that.
None of that is true.
He was fiery.
(01:01:52):
He approached me during thegame and he said stop effing
with my son.
That's my effing son.
Stop effing with my son.
I said what?
Nah, nah, nah, man, straight upman to man, real talk.
Stop effing with my son.
I said what?
Nah, nah, nah, man, straight upman to man, real talk.
Stop effing with my son.
And I saw how furious he wasand I said we can talk about it
(01:02:18):
later.
Nah, eff that, eff that.
Stop effing with my son.
That's my son.
That's my son.
I said all right, though, fine,and he walked away.
That's all he said.
I knew what he was talkingabout.
I've spoken about this before.
Matter of fact, I heard thatnot many, not all, but a few
players were upset at me aboutthat.
(01:02:40):
I think one player inparticular was Tremont Green,
who I haven't spoken to sinceand has no desire to speak to me
, primarily because of this, Isuppose, and I found out the way
that I found out, which waslast night while I was at the
game.
I was a guest of Ari Emanuel,owner of William Morris Endeavor
(01:03:04):
, founder of William MorrisEndeavor, rather Founder of
Endeavor.
Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Sorry, all right, you get the idea.
That was the other night.
That happened about late lastweek.
That happened and Stephen A wason his podcast addressing
LeBron James.
You know Stephen A had been.
He's a journalist.
He's a sports journalist, notjust a pundit, but a journalist.
(01:03:30):
That's his job to report onsports.
That's his job at ESPN, right.
Then he has the podcast.
That's his personal thing,right?
Lebron was out of pocket.
He was out of pocket.
(01:03:53):
He was out of pocket and asmuch as I like him as a player,
he's.
He's messed the NBA up.
The NBA, uh, viewership is down53 percent.
People don't even watch NBA.
I know I don't watch it.
Right.
These, these guys done messedthe game up.
You got your son there to playwith you in the Lakers and he's
not.
I don't want to call the kid abum, but he's a D-League player.
(01:04:16):
He's not a pro player, andStephen A Smith reports on that
and he does what journalists dotake shots and this guy don't
like it.
That's his son, of course.
He feels some way about it, butthis is what you signed up for,
so I'm not going to stay toolong on that.
Maybe we'll pick it up atanother time.
(01:04:37):
And I do want to get back tothis Jasmine Crockett chick.
The little stinking chick,that's what she is.
A little stinking chick the wayshe's acting.
But yeah, so anyway, family man, we're going to let you go.
We're going to let you go and,in the words of Malik, you must
(01:04:58):
respect life, love justice,cherish freedom, treasure the
peace.
Y'all go in peace until I talkto you again, until I talk to
you again.
Hopefully it'll be next week,but if not, I'll see you on the
other end.
And, um, it's all good.
Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
It's all good family baby, baby, baby, baby, baby,
baby, baby, baby.
Clap your hands, huh, stompyour feet, huh.
(01:05:34):
Clap your hands, huh, stompyour feet, huh.
In the jungle brother, in thejungle brother.
In the jungle brother.
Clap your hands, huh, in thejungle brother.
Clap your hands, stomp yourfeet.
Clap your hands.
(01:05:55):
Stomp your feet.
Clap your hands.
Stomp your feet, clap, clap,clap your hands.
Stomp your feet.
Clap your hands.
Stomp your feet, clap yourhands, stomp your feet.
God, come on, ha-ha, hey.
There will come a time when black people wake up
and become intellectuallyindependent enough to think for
themselves, as other humans areintellectually independent
enough to think for themselves.
Then the black man will thinklike a black man and he will
feel for other black people, andthis new thinking and feeling
(00:26):
will cause black people to sticktogether.
And then at that point you'llhave a situation where when you
attack one black man, you areattacking all black men, and
this type of black thinking willcause all black people to stick
together.
And this type of thinking alsowill bring an end to the
(00:47):
brutality inflicted upon blackpeople by white people, and it
is the only thing that willbring an end to it.
No federal court, state courtor city court will bring an end
to it.
It's something that the blackman has to bring an end to
himself.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Peace and welcome back, welcome back to Freedmen's
Affairs Radio.
I'm your host, vaughn Black,and we haven't got there yet,
family.
We haven't got there yet whatyou just heard Brother Malcolm
say.
We're getting there.
We've started the process, wegot a long fight ahead of us and
we're going to get there, butwe're not there yet.
(01:26):
That said, that said, onceagain, welcome back and let me
get a music bed in here andwe're going to start off the
program today, march 11th, 2025.
Today's math is knowledge,knowledge, and that borns wisdom
(01:48):
.
But here's the thing In themathematics, whenever you see
duplicate numbers like that, itindicates a greater emphasis on
that principle.
So, like today is the 11th, andwe say knowledge, knowledge.
(02:11):
Right, there's a, there's aemphasis to to really
contemplate or to dig deeper.
Knowledge, knowledge, right, inthis case, makes us wiser or
(02:34):
wise in the dome, right, let uskeep that in mind.
Family today, family today.
We're not going to stay long atall.
Hopefully I can get you out ofhere quick.
Just want to whisper in yourear for a few minutes, but it
(03:01):
ain't going to be no whisperingbecause, man, we're going to
start off, we're going to go toWashington DC to the political
thing you know, this week.
Last week they had what theycall the joint session, where
(03:24):
the president addressed thejoint session of Congress.
And, man, I gotta tell you itwas some fireworks up there.
It was some fireworks up there.
I mean high explosives, andwe're gonna go to it, we're
gonna go to it.
Let me let this play a littlebit.
This thing is man, it's justjazzy here.
Okay, yeah, but they had MayorWu from Boston she was up there,
(03:52):
the Asian woman.
They had the mayor from Denver,colorado, I believe, johnson.
They had Chicago mayor up therefrom Chicago, illinois, mayor
Brandon Johnson, the Emperor ofChicago.
And they had also Mayor EricAdams of New York City up there
(04:19):
on Capitol Hill to testify atthis hearing.
I want to say so withoutfurther ado.
Let's go to it.
Hank, I'm telling you, family,hang on to your seat, hang on to
your seats, because this wassome high explosives here and
this thing got really, reallytesty.
(04:40):
But let's hold on just a second.
Let me bring it up, let mebring it up, let me bring it up.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
No one in this room should be surprised that your
approval rating because Ithought you might do this and
when I hear your answer, no onein this room should be surprised
that your approval rating is6.6%.
Now, that's not just me sayingthis Newsweek article.
The least popular politician inAmerica is Brandon Johnson.
(05:08):
You can go with.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Mr.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Frost and Mr Green.
I'm reclaiming my time.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
That's what you want.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
No, no, ms Presley, I've been very accommodating to
you and I take particularumbrage on the survival of
sexual violence.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
You all have blood on your hands.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
I do not think you guys are bad people, but I think
that you are ideologicallymisled, which is why,
unfortunately, based on yourresponses, I'm all going to be
criminally referring you to theDepartment of Justice for
investigation and as soon as Ileave here, these will be going
over to Pam Bondi.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, you heard that those were just clips.
Those were just clips of theproceedings and we're going to
go into it and let me just Allright, I have my next question.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
When an illegal alien rapes a woman, do you believe
you're on the right side ofhistory?
Mayor Adams?
Yes or no?
Thank you, mr Chairman.
All of the mayors here todayare actively working to harm the
American people you represent.
You all have blood on yourhands.
I'm going to ask a series ofyes or no questions today and I
(06:19):
would like to remind all of youyou are under oath.
I only want a yes or no to myquestions.
My first question do youacknowledge breaking into our
country is a crime?
Mayor Adams?
Yes or no?
Do you acknowledge breakinginto our country is a crime?
Speaker 8 (06:38):
I acknowledge.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Yes or no?
Speaker 8 (06:40):
I acknowledge.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
Okay, honorable Johnson, he's not going to
answer the question.
Yes or no, breaking into ourcountry against the law?
Speaker 9 (06:46):
Yes, or no Depends how you cross the border.
Okay, mayor Johnson yes or no?
Speaker 10 (06:51):
Comprehensive immigration reform policies are
what's necessary.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
Mayor Wu, do you have a better answer than these
gentlemen before you?
Yes or no?
Yes, Okay.
Do you believe it's acceptablefor illegals who commit heinous
crimes be released back into thepublic instead of being
detained and deported?
Mayor Adams, yes or no?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Anyone break a crime.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
Yes or no, this is not hard.
Yes or no?
Speaker 12 (07:14):
Anyone that break a crime should be-.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Okay, mayor, yes or no?
Speaker 9 (07:19):
They should be deported.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Okay, Mayor.
Any individual that causes harmand breaks the law should be
held accountable.
This is why you have 6%approval rating?
Because you suck at answeringquestions, mayor Wu.
Speaker 11 (07:30):
yes, or no, anyone who's a public safety threat
should be prosecuted.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
All right, I have my next question when an illegal
alien rapes a woman, do youbelieve you're on the right side
of history?
Mayor Adams, yes or no?
Can we say that question?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
Mayor Johnston, when an illegal alien rapes a woman,
do you believe you're on theright side of history, yes or no
?
Speaker 9 (07:51):
I will charge and prosecute them.
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Yes or no.
Okay, you said you would go tojail, didn't you?
I will charge and prosecuteanyone For harboring illegal
aliens, or something, mayorJohnston.
Speaker 10 (07:58):
Could you repeat your question please?
Speaker 6 (08:00):
When an illegal alien rapes a woman, do you believe
you're on the right side ofhistory, could you?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
clarify that question .
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Okay, Mayor Wu, yes or no?
Speaker 11 (08:07):
No, rapist obviously horrible.
Why are you letting rapistsback out onto the streets of
Boston?
That is not true.
That is not what's happening inBoston.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
When an illegal alien molests a kid, molests an
underage kid.
Do you pat yourself on the backfor being compassionate, mayor
Adams?
It's despicable and he shouldbe arrested.
Mayor.
Speaker 9 (08:27):
Johnson, I prosecute folks that commit crimes like
that.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
You guys let them out on the streets, mayor Johnson.
Speaker 10 (08:31):
We arrest violent criminals in the city of Chicago
.
Speaker 11 (08:33):
Mayor Wu, we investigate arrest and prosecute
.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
You guys don't sound very confident today.
Would your city honor Adams,yes or no?
In?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
conformance with law, we will honor detainees Mayor.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Johnson.
Speaker 9 (08:51):
If there's a criminal warrant, we'll help them pick
them up.
If there's no criminal warrant,we'll honor a notification
request.
Speaker 10 (08:56):
Mayor Johnson Criminal warrants.
We always cooperate withfederal agents with a criminal
warrant.
Speaker 11 (09:02):
Mayor Wu Get a criminal warrant, we will
enforce.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
A criminal warrant.
I'm talking about an eyesdetainer on an individual who's
here illegal, who rapes kids.
Do you all hate Donald Trumpmore than you love your country,
Mayor Adams?
Speaker 8 (09:18):
I respect my president, I respect my yes or
no?
Speaker 6 (09:21):
you're having the hardest time today, mayor
Johnston.
Speaker 9 (09:23):
I love my country, yes or no I?
Speaker 6 (09:24):
love having the hardest time today, mayor
Johnston.
Speaker 9 (09:25):
I love my country.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Yes or no, I love my country, mayor Johnson.
Speaker 10 (09:29):
As a son of a pastor , I love everyone and this
country.
Speaker 11 (09:33):
Mayor, will I love my country and my city?
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Are you all willing to go to jail for violating
federal law?
Mayor Adams.
I'm not gonna violate federallaw, so I don't have to worry
about that, mayor Johnston.
Speaker 9 (09:48):
We don't violate federal law either.
You don't violate federal lawwe do not violate federal law.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Is it violating federal law if you don't honor
detainer requests from ICE?
Speaker 9 (09:57):
Absolutely not.
In fact, the statuteCongressman Biggs shared we
explicitly follow the statutesays you cannot prohibit city
employees from sharinginformation about someone's
status with the government.
We do not prohibit that.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Do you love illegal aliens more than you love your
fellow countrymen?
Speaker 9 (10:11):
I love all the residents of the city and county
.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
Mayor Johnston, are you willing to go to jail for
violating federal law?
Speaker 10 (10:17):
The city of Chicago complies with all laws.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Oh.
Speaker 11 (10:20):
I highly doubt that, mayor Wu.
We are not violating federallaw.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Mayor Wu, I have a last couple questions for you.
Do you believe that ICEarresting a child rapist quote
threatens everyone's safety?
End quote yes or no, no?
Does ICE arresting a murderousMS-13 gang member threaten
everyone's safety?
Yes or no?
Speaker 13 (10:43):
No.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
I would like to hold up this quote of you where you
say ICE's efforts actuallythreaten the safety of everyone.
End quote, boston MayorMichelle Wu.
You're a hypocrite.
Thank you, mr Chairman, and Iyield back.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Chair recognizes Mr Chairman.
I have a unanimous consentrequest.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Mr Chairman, I have unanimous consent Proceed.
I'd like to have unanimousconsent request.
Mr.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Chairman, I have unanimous consent Proceed.
I'd like to seek unanimousconsent to enter into the record
this article and I'll do thisas a survivor of sexual violence
myself.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I don't impress you.
This is from Quartz.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
March 2018.
Without objection, so ordered.
Data from Texas shows that USborn and Without objection.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
so ordered, We've put it in the record.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
I haven't entered it.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
You have what.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
Mr Jerry, I have several articles.
I need to enter them.
Let me just go ahead with whatthe articles are.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
What's the next article?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Let me proceed.
Data from Texas shows that USborn Americans commit more rape
and murder than immigrants.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Listen, this trend of you all trying to get thrown
out of committees so you can geton MSNBC is going to end.
We're not going to put up withit.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
This is my procedural right as a member of this
committee to enter documentsinto the record.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
I am reclaiming my time.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
You do not get to dictate how I recite the
articles for the record.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
You can go with Mr Frost and Mr Green.
I am reclaiming my time.
You do not get to dictate how Irecite the articles for the
record.
Mr Subramaniam, it's 5 o'clockand I take particular umbrage as
a survivor of sexual violence.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
I will enter into the record.
This is my right.
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
No.
No, it is Mr Subramaniam, mrChair.
No, no, it is Mr Subramaniam,mr Chair.
No, you know the process ofunanimous consent.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
You are not recognized.
I have several articles toenter into the record.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Mr Subramaniam, if you don't go, we're going to
recognize Mr Timmons.
Chair recognizes Mr Donaldsfrom Florida.
Thank you, Chairman.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Uh-oh.
Speaker 12 (12:57):
Family.
Uh-oh, hang on, hang on, hangon.
Thank you, chairman.
Talking about illegalimmigration and oversight the
entire time, I remember we had agroup of this committee that
went down to the El Paso sectionof the border this was back in
February, march of 2021.
And during that time period wewere at one of the holding
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centers and there were thesebuses that were coming to the
detention facility and they werepicking up 30 kids, 50 kids, at
random, walking out of thefacility.
And when I went over toquestion the bus driver that was
transporting these kids, borderagents told me, as a member of
Congress, that you're notallowed to question the bus
(13:39):
driver and, of course, peopleknowing me.
I didn't take no for an answerand I repeated the question and
I was told that this bunch ofchildren was leaving El Paso and
going to San Diego, and so whatwas occurring under the Biden
administration is that they werebusing unaccompanied minors all
across the press to see thepictures of kids in cages.
They did not want to see ourborders being overrun.
(14:09):
They wanted to disperse thatproblem all through the United
States.
That is the reckless history ofillegal immigration under Joe
Biden and the Democrat Party.
Mayor Johnston of Denver youlamented earlier that there were
10 to 11 buses coming per dayto your city.
Did you ever talk to Joe Bidenabout why this was happening to
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your community?
Speaker 9 (14:33):
Thank you, Congressman.
I both reached out to GovernorAbbott from Texas.
He didn't respond and I did?
Speaker 12 (14:38):
Why would you reach out to Governor Abbott of Texas
when it is Joe Biden, the formercommander in chief, that opened
up our borders?
Why didn't you talk to him?
Speaker 9 (14:45):
Well, our buses directly were being sent from
Governor Abbott in Texas.
So that was why we reached outto say we're happy to
collaborate on a coordinatedentry system.
We understand no one state orno one city should bear the
entire brunt of this, but let'scollaborate.
Speaker 12 (14:56):
But I did so I'm glad you I'm glad you said that
because that brings me to mynext point Governor Abbott and
Governor DeSantis when theystarted moving illegal aliens
out of their states, who werebearing the brunt of what Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris weredoing, and they've sent them to
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Denver, they sent them toChicago, they sent them to New
York.
You four could hide, hidebehind the realities of illegal
immigration on border towns allthrough our country and on
cities and states who did notwant to see illegal immigration
but did not have the politicalrepresentation to go to the
White House.
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And only when it showed up onyour doorstep did you get upset.
Mayor Johnston, coming back toyou, how much did your city
spend on illegal immigration?
Do you have a round number?
Speaker 9 (15:48):
Over the last couple of years on all newcomers,
whatever their status was.
It's around 79 million since2022.
Speaker 12 (15:53):
Seventy nine million , mayor Johnson, chicago.
How much is the city of Chicagospent on illegal immigration?
Speaker 10 (15:59):
Referring to the 2022 up to 2024 of the buses
coming from Texas, roughly thesame percentage of the state of
Texas about 1% of our overallbudget.
Speaker 12 (16:10):
What is that?
Because we don't have thecity's budget in front of me.
Numbers.
Speaker 10 (16:14):
It's 1%, and if you want the actual calculation, we
can make sure someone.
Speaker 12 (16:17):
You're the mayor.
You don't have the math infront of you.
Speaker 10 (16:18):
It's 1% of the overall budget over the last
four years, which is the samenumber that was sent from us,
from the state of Texas.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Mayor Johnson Family.
He was on Johnson's bumper likea dog.
He drug him like a rag dolljust now and he's not finished.
Listen up, listen up.
Speaker 12 (16:42):
I already asked you.
You don't have a hard number,and if you don't have a hard
number, you're not running yourcity.
Well, Mayor.
Adams, how much did the city ofNew York actually spend on
illegal immigration?
6.9 billion of taxpayers 6.9billion dollars of taxpayer
money.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Remember that number, family, that was Mayor Adams in
New York 6.9 billion dollarsspent on foreign nationals that
were here illegally, came acrossthe border illegally.
6.9 billion, not for the stateof New York, for the city we're
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going to.
I'm going to touch on that in alittle bit, but we want to get
through this, come back andvisit that, but remember that
number.
But remember that number.
Remember that number $6.9billion.
Almost $7 billion In the city.
The five boroughs not LongIsland, Nassau, Suffolk County,
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Bronx, Manhattan, Brooklyn,Queens, Staten Island almost $7
billion.
Remember that number, family,but let us continue Back to it,
Back to it.
Speaker 12 (17:53):
Money on a problem that was fostered on the
American people.
Mayor Wu, in the city of Boston, how much did you spend?
Speaker 11 (18:02):
We don't ask about immigration status and
delivering citizens.
Speaker 12 (18:04):
You don't ask about how much money the city of
Boston has spent on illegalimmigration.
Speaker 11 (18:08):
Are you out of immigration status?
Do you manage your budget ornot, mayor?
That is how we keep our state.
Mayor Wu, do you manage yourbudget or not?
We have the numbers to prove it.
I manage my budget.
I have a triple A bond ratingdating back 10 years.
Speaker 12 (18:19):
So to the city of Boston just understand that your
mayor does not care how much ofyour resources she has spent on
people who are not citizens.
Speaker 11 (18:26):
The city of Boston is sick of having people outside
Boston.
Speaker 12 (18:30):
Mr Behr, I have a question for you because I
understand Cato's perspectivewhen it comes to illegal
immigration.
I understand that the CatoInstitute for a long time has
had a standard of actuallyhaving open immigration into the
United States, Generallyspeaking I don't want to get
into specifics we support legalimmigration.
We want immigration to be legal.
So let me ask you this question,because one of the great
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libertarians of the modern era,Milton Friedman, famously said
you can either have open bordersor a welfare state, but you
have to choose.
Mr Beer, what do you choose?
Speaker 15 (19:01):
Milton Friedman said he wanted to allow a legal
immigration to continue.
I disagree with MiltonFriedman's position on that.
We should have legalimmigration and build a wall
around the welfare state, notaround the country.
That's in the best interest oftaxpayers.
Speaker 12 (19:15):
And I would argue that under the current system,
where you have sanctuary citiespopping up, it is not possible
to build that wall.
So America has to choose.
Mr Beer, you're done.
America has to choose betweensecuring our nation or you're
done.
America has to choose betweensecuring our nation or
protecting the taxpayer.
I choose secure the nation, Iyield back.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Chair Rick, it has Mr Gill from Texas.
Speaker 16 (19:34):
Thank you, mr Chairman, for holding this
hearing on such an importanttopic.
Mayor Johnson, I want to startwith you.
One of your first actions asmayor was establishing a deputy
mayor for immigrant, migrant andrefugee rights.
I want to ask you a series ofquestions.
If you could answer with a yesor no answer, that'd be great.
First of all, do you supportallowing illegal aliens to
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obtain driver's licenses?
Just yes or no?
Speaker 10 (20:06):
So the city of Chicago has been a welcoming
city for over 40 years.
Speaker 16 (20:09):
I'll take that as a yes.
Next question that's the policythat we will hold to.
Do you support tax dollarssubsidizing or paying for the
health care of illegal aliens?
Speaker 10 (20:19):
I support investments in all residents of
the people of Chicago and that'swhat I do.
Speaker 16 (20:23):
That's a yes as well .
Do you support free or reducedcollege for illegal aliens?
Speaker 10 (20:30):
Again, I support the investments of all residents,
of the people of Chicago.
Speaker 16 (20:33):
That is a yes.
Next question Do you supportallowing non-citizens to vote in
local elections?
Again?
Speaker 10 (20:40):
I'm not over the jurisdiction of that type of law
but again, I'm committed toinvesting in all residents of
the people of Chicago.
Speaker 16 (20:48):
I'll take that as yes.
I've got an article from theChicago Sun-Times and I'll quote
here briefly.
Johnson proposed, among otherthings, that all residents,
regardless of citizenship status, be able to vote for Chicago
Board of Education members.
Next question your websitestates and this is your campaign
website quote I will not stopfighting until abortion access
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is completely secure for peopleall over the country.
End quote.
Yes or no?
Do you support taxpayer-fundedabortions for illegal aliens?
Speaker 10 (21:20):
I support the reproductive rights of all
people.
Speaker 16 (21:23):
That is a yes as well.
Your mayoral transition websitementioned support for creating
a Chicago Board of Educationnon-citizen advisory board.
Again, yes or no?
Do you support appointingnon-citizens to government
advisory boards?
Speaker 10 (21:39):
I was invited here today to discuss welcoming
cities.
Yes or no?
I was invited here to discusswelcoming cities, yes or no.
Speaker 16 (21:45):
If you're interested in asking any questions about
the welcoming city, I'm happy toanswer those questions.
No, we're going to move on.
As you know, president Trump,unlike the previous
administration, has takenserious action to bring foreign
criminal gangs to justice, totake our border back and to
restore public safety in ourcommunities.
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He designated eighttransnational criminal
organizations and cartels asforeign terrorist organizations.
These are groups like Trende,aragua, MS-13, sinaloa some of
the most grotesque and ruthlessand brutal organizations in the
world and brutal organizationsin the world.
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You, as mayor of a sanctuarycity, have been virtually giving
favors to illegal aliens.
Apparently, you support anenormous amount of taxpayer
resources going to them as well,but you yourself have also
received a lot of gifts and, forthose of you who don't know,
mayor Johnson has a secret giftroom that is not given access to
the public or for access to theOffice of Inspector General.
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I'd like to ask you a couplequestions about that.
Do you know everyone who'sgiven you a gift since you
became mayor?
The city of Chicago has had apolicy for 40 years where there
are individuals that would liketo give gifts to the city of
Chicago.
I'm going to take that as a no,and we do not accept those
gifts.
When did you become mayor?
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Now I'm going to reclaim mytime here Of the city of Chicago
.
You're not going to filibusterhere.
When did you become mayor?
When did you become?
Speaker 10 (23:24):
mayor.
I was elected mayor of the cityof Chicago in May I'm sorry, in
April of 2023, and I was swornin May 15th of 2023.
Speaker 16 (23:36):
On June 12th 2023, you received Hugo Boss cufflinks
and a personalized Mont Blancpin.
Do you know who gave you those?
Speaker 10 (23:45):
So I did not receive those personally.
The city of Chicago receivedthem.
You received those on behalf ofthe city of Chicago, and that's
right.
On behalf of the city ofChicago.
Speaker 16 (23:51):
I understand the difference as every mayor in the
history of.
Speaker 10 (23:53):
Chicago.
Who has provided gifts to thecity of Chicago?
Speaker 16 (23:57):
Do you know who gave those to the city of Chicago?
Speaker 10 (24:00):
So again, on behalf of the city of Chicago there are
gifts for our residents, but Ido not accept.
Those are not my personal gifts.
Those are the gifts of the cityof Chicago and that's why you
are aware that they existbecause they are within the law.
Speaker 16 (24:12):
I'm here, sir.
On March 18th 2024, youreceived a Gucci tote bag.
Do you know who gave you thatGave?
The city of.
Speaker 10 (24:19):
Chicago.
That, ken.
I was here and I was invited torespond to the questions around
welcoming cities.
Speaker 16 (24:26):
I and I was invited to respond to the questions
around welcoming cities.
I'm happy to answer any ofthose questions.
A big Da Vinci bag, a KateSpade purse and Carucci shoes Do
you know who gave the city ofChicago those?
Again, I was brought.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
I'll take that as.
Wait a minute.
What Are you serious?
Are you serious?
Back to it, back to it.
I'm not going to interrupt itagain, hold on.
Speaker 16 (24:46):
Back, Back to it, back to it.
I'm not going to interrupt itagain.
Hold on back to it.
I'm reclaiming my time here,sir I am reclaiming my time.
Speaker 10 (24:50):
This raises serious ethical concerns.
Speaker 16 (24:53):
You are providing an enormous amount of aid to
illegal aliens, aiding andabetting criminals who have come
into our country illegally, andyou yourself are receiving an
enormous amount of gifts and youwon't even tell us who they're
coming from.
This is serious ethical concernrule gentlemen, I'd like to ask
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for unanimous consent to enterinto the record the city of
chicago office of inspectorgeneral advisory concerning
gifts accepted on behalf of thecity, without.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Without objection.
So ordered.
Speaker 16 (25:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Chair, Mr Jack from Georgia.
Speaker 17 (25:28):
Mr Chairman, thank you for convening this hearing
and I'd like to begin byoffering some thoughts about our
colleague from Texas,congressman Sylvester Turner,
who sadly just passed away.
As some of you may know,congressman Turner was a former
two-term mayor of Houston and,as our witnesses can no doubt
attest, being the mayor of a bigcity is not easy.
Congressman Turner was a memberof our freshman class and his
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office is right next to mine andthe Longworth House Office
building and as such, I had anopportunity to walk with him to
and from votes, found him to bean incredible gentleman.
With respect and courtesy, mycolleagues across the aisle,
particularly the freshmen, knewCongressman Turner better than I
, so I certainly yield to themon this topic, but I wanted to
at least mention my own thoughtsfor the record.
Now to the topic of today'shearing.
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I prepared for today's hearingby chatting with some of the
mayors from my district, fromthose who represent just a few
hundred to those who represent afew thousand and I found a
common theme of frustration.
They, along with me and manyother constituents I proudly
represent in Georgia's thirdcongressional district, want to
know why policies are in placethat benefit citizens of other
countries at the expense ofcitizens of our own country.
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So if I could, mayor Johnson,I'd like to start with you from
Denver.
I know Chairman Comer and hisopening line of questioning
discussed an ordinance passed bythe Denver City Council in 2017
, and I recognize you would justlet the state Senate by then.
Passed by the Denver CityCouncil in 2017, and I recognize
you would just let the statesenate by then.
But this ordinance prohibitscity and county employees from
assisting the enforcement offederal laws or inquiring about
a person's immigration status.
So I just have to ask do yousee a benefit in learning
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whether or not someone chargedwith a crime is a citizen of
another country?
Speaker 9 (27:01):
Thank you, congressman.
I do just want to say MayorTurner hosted me in Houston when
I first became mayor, so that'sa powerful statement from me.
Thank you for acknowledging it.
Thank you, sir.
We don't ask someone's statuswhen we first contact them,
because it's not relevant towhatever charges we may be
pursuing.
They may list their country oforigin on a document that we ask
for.
It does not indicate theirimmigration status.
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They could have legal statusbut be from another country.
Speaker 17 (27:25):
Mayor Johnson of Chicago, do you see a benefit in
asking someone charged with acrime whether or not they're a
citizen of our country?
Speaker 10 (27:32):
The benefit of community safety is trust
between local residents and lawenforcement, and that
relationship is critical todriving violence down.
Under my leadership, violencehas gone down in the city of
Chicago.
Speaker 17 (27:43):
And Mayor Johnson, if I can ask, have you ever
disciplined, fired or arrestedlaw enforcement officers or
correction officers if theynotified ICE or other federal
immigration officers of anillegal criminal alien in lockup
or courts, in violation of yoursanctuary city policies?
Have you ever disciplined,fired or arrested a law
enforcement officer that workedwith ICE?
Speaker 10 (28:04):
That is not.
I don't believe.
That's under the jurisdictionof the mayor.
I don't arrest people.
Speaker 17 (28:09):
Are there issued memos in which you direct
Chicago officers from notassisting with enforcement,
immigration law or helping ICEidentify folks who may not be
here legally?
Speaker 10 (28:21):
We do have documentation around making sure
that the residents of the cityof Chicago know their rights.
That's important because itbuilds trust between law
enforcement and community.
By having that confidence andtrust, people are more likely to
come forward to report violentcrime, regardless of their
immigration status.
Speaker 17 (28:38):
Well, I have to submit to the record, Mr
Chairman, an article from NewsNation now, January 21st 2025,
in which it says Chicago policereminded they cannot cooperate
with deportations.
And if I may, ask Mayor arethere any memos that direct
Chicago police to not cooperatewith President Trump's
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deportation plans?
Speaker 10 (29:00):
Well, there's so local law enforcement.
We're not federal agents.
So local law enforcement in thecity of Chicago they do not dub
as federal agents.
Speaker 17 (29:12):
But that having been said from your mayoral office,
have you ever issued memos tothe police department
instructing them not tocooperate with President Trump?
Speaker 10 (29:20):
We remind people of what the welcoming city
ordinance entails.
Speaker 17 (29:24):
Would you submit to the family?
They got him they got him rightthere.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
They got him.
They got him right there.
People, of what the welcomingcity ordinance entails, would
you submit to the family?
They got him.
They got him right there.
They got him, they got himright there.
This dude might go to jail ifthey press him.
If they press him, he might goto jail.
They got him.
What he just answered.
The question the man asked himis there a directive from your
office as mayor, is there adirective from your office, from
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your desk?
And you heard what he answered.
They got him right there.
I don't know if they go down.
They said they're going to.
That woman says she's going toput in the hearing the reports
from the hearing to Pam Bundy,who is the Justice Department,
the DOJ.
These folks might be in sometrouble Now.
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They grilled Eric Adams up here.
The Democrats, the Democraticcongressmen, drilled him.
They nailed him up here.
I don't know if I'm going toplay the whole thing.
Let's see.
Speaker 17 (30:19):
Let's see where we're at Come on Any written
documentation to the ChicagoPolice Department as it relates
to this.
Speaker 10 (30:25):
For the welcoming city ordinance.
We're happy to make sure thatthis body has that ordinance and
that policy has been around for40 years.
Speaker 17 (30:32):
Thank you very much, Mayor Wu.
Back to my line of questioningwith Mayor Johnston and John
Sten.
Do you believe that if you areasking someone who's been
charged with a crime whether ornot they're here in our country
legally, is that a proper andbeneficial thing to do?
Speaker 11 (30:51):
The laws of Massachusetts and the Boston
Trust Act help Boston policesolve crimes.
We do not ask for immigrationstatus because it allows for
people to trust that when theycall 911, when they have
information that might helpbring justice to another family
that they feel comfortablesharing that.
Speaker 17 (31:07):
Thank you, mayor Adams.
Opposing Obviously you know thepolice very well.
Do you see a benefit in askingfolks who have been charged with
a crime whether or not they'rea legal citizen?
Yes, I do With that, mrChairman.
I yield back.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
Chair recognizes Ms Green from Georgia.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
Thank you, mr Chairman, thank you for coming
before our committee today.
I'm going to fast forward thisIn the past four years, our
nation has been invaded bymillions and millions of people
who have crossed our border.
There's also millions of— —ofChicago, the excerpts of Chicago
representing Rockford,bloomington, normal, peoria, and
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I want to thank you, mrChairman, for having this
hearing.
It's past time that individualslike the mayors we have before
us come before us and explain tothe American people why you
continue to fail to enforce thelaws of our country and allow
illegal immigrants to flood intoour communities, and it's clear
to me that sanctuary citypolicies have significantly
harmed our once great cities,which is very, very unfortunate.
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During my time as an electedofficial, I have strongly
condemned the policy aroundsanctuary cities and the impact
it's had on the state ofIllinois, and I believe every
sensible resident in Illinoisknows these policies have
further harmed the economy inIllinois, increased crime
throughout our state andendangered hardworking,
law-abiding Illinois citizens.
I want to turn my attention toyou, mayor Brandon Johnson of
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Chicago.
As I've watched you over thelast two years that you've been
mayor, I've been amazed at howtone-deaf you have been and how
oblivious you've been to thedecline of Chicago, and I say
that looking objectively at anumber of things Out of control
crime in Chicago, people scaredthroughout neighborhoods on the
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west side, south side, northside.
Morale has never been lower,with law enforcement and CPD.
Record number of policeofficers leaving the force.
We have been hemorrhagingpeople out of the city of
Chicago to the suburbs andelsewhere where they feel safe.
Record number of businessesfleeing the city of Chicago.
You couple that with recorddeficits $2 billion deficit line
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of credit that you just had totake out this week, but you've
spent $300 million of taxpayermoney on illegal immigrants.
And when I think about all ofthose things and I look at the
strategy you continue to take, Imean you're putting the
interest of illegal immigrantsabove the interest of taxpayers
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in Chicago, but you continue togo down this path and for the
life of me I can't understand it.
So, mayor, tell me why youcontinue to go down this path.
And for the life of me, I can'tunderstand it.
So, mayor, tell me why youcontinue to put the interests of
illegal immigrants abovetaxpayers in Chicago.
Speaker 10 (33:55):
Thank you for your representation.
Violent crime is down inChicago.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Well, let me reclaim my time.
So I have a statistic here.
Last year Chicago had 573murders Down.
Okay, but I want to comparethat to the city of New York,
that is almost two thirds thesize of Chicago.
337 murders.
So you had 573 murders in thecity of Chicago and you're one
third the size.
Speaker 10 (34:19):
That's the lowest amount in five years under my
leadership.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Okay, and you look at the level of violent criminals,
sexual offenses and drugdealers All violent crime is
down in Chicago.
Speaker 10 (34:30):
In fact, just this year alone, congressman
respectfully, there's a 20%decrease in violent crime in the
city of Chicago.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
I don't agree with your statistics.
Speaker 10 (34:39):
Well, it's not a matter of whether or not you
agree with it.
Let me reclaim my time.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Because I thought you might do this, and when I hear
your answer, no one in this roomshould be surprised that your
approval rating is 6.6%.
Now that's not just me sayingthis Newsweek article.
The least popular politician inAmerica is Brandon Johnson.
So recent poll, m3 strategies,conducted this February 20th to
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21st, showed that Mayor Johnsonhas a 6.6% approval rating, the
worst showing of any politicalfigure in the country's history.
So I know you're talking about.
Crime is down and things aregreat, and you know the city's
flush with money.
None of that is backed up bythe people in the city of
Chicago.
None of that is backed up bythe people in the city of
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chicago, and so I'm wonderingwhy you continue to go down this
path of failed policies,destruction to the city of
chicago, people fleeing lawenforcement at an all-time low,
and I'm wondering if you haveany remorse for that here today
and can tell us why you continueto double down on these failed
policies.
Speaker 10 (35:52):
We've invested $1.25 billion for housing and
economic development,particularly for black Chicago.
It's the largest investment inthe history of Chicago 45%
increase in youth employment,particularly for black and brown
children.
I will not apologize for myinvestments in the people of
Chicago.
We have one of the most diverseeconomies, the top universities
.
As violence continues to godown and investments continue to
go up, that is what's mostimportant.
We've opened up three mentalhealth clinics the first mayor
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since the first black mayor inthe history of Chicago to
actually invest in public healthand I will continue to make
those investments.
Your approval rating speaksvolumes.
Well, the people approve of myinvestments and I will continue
to make those investments.
You're going the wrongdirection.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
You need to reverse your policies on sanctuary
cities.
That's what the electionresults were last year Crime and
immigration were the number oneissue in the election from
Republicans, Democrats.
Speaker 10 (36:41):
We could use your help to actually help us
continue to invest in theseprograms that continue to drive
violence down in the city ofChicago, and I'm willing to work
with you and I'm glad I had achance to finally meet you for
the first time.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Gentlemen's time has expired.
Chair recognizes Ms Stansburyfrom New Mexico.
Speaker 18 (36:57):
All right.
Well, thank you, Mr Chairman.
I always think that we shouldsage this room after these
hearings because we hear a lotof crazy stuff in here.
But let me start out by sayingmayors, welcome to our committee
.
Thank you for serving yourcities and your people.
I have to say, as also anelected official, you have the
hardest job in America, MrChairman.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
Without objection to order.
Speaker 7 (37:19):
Thank you On page.
Or let's see section 4AA.
A law enforcement official andemployment of the city,
department, agency or commissionshall not.
And then A inquire of anindividual on his or her
immigration status Under TitleVIII US Code, subsection 1373,
stipulates that localgovernments cannot prohibit or
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restrict communication withfederal immigration authorities
regarding individuals'immigration status.
So your enforcement of this actis in direct violation of that
statute.
Can you please confirm that isnot the truth.
Speaker 11 (37:51):
Thank you, ma'am.
Speaker 7 (37:51):
That's the US Code.
I don't know about you, but USCode does not lie.
Speaker 11 (37:54):
We do not ask about immigration status, and that is
what makes us safe in the cityMore.
Next question.
Speaker 7 (37:58):
Mayor Johnston, you said in your testimony that the
first step you took afterillegal aliens arrived was to
provide them with housing.
Is that correct, yes or no?
Speaker 9 (38:07):
Folks that were on the streets freezing to death.
We gave access to shelter.
Yes, we did.
Speaker 7 (38:10):
Thank you Not to be rude here, but you have a good
understanding of what.
The definition of harboring iscorrect.
I do.
Okay For those that might not.
Harboring means to knowingly orrecklessly provide shelter or
place to stay for an illegalalien, and according to Title
VIII of US Code, Subsection 1324, that is also a federal crime.
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Just to be clear, did you alsosay that you would be willing to
go to jail to stop deportationefforts?
Speaker 9 (38:39):
I did say that I'd be willing to stand up for all of
our residents, and the contextwas that was the point at which
the administration wasthreatening to deploy the US
military to streets of ourcities to pull kids out of
schools and churches.
Speaker 7 (38:49):
So we were worried about that.
Thank you, Mr Johnson.
Mr Chairman, I'd like to enterinto the record an article from
CBS.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Without objection to order.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
Thank you.
In this it says Johnson saidearlier this week that he's
willing to use civildisobedience and, if necessary,
going to jail, to stopdeportations.
My final question would be foryou, mayor Johnson Do you
believe that Chicago's welcomingcity ordinance encourages
illegal aliens to enter theUnited States, specifically into
Chicago?
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Yes or no?
Speaker 10 (39:19):
No, okay.
Speaker 7 (39:22):
So you don't believe that banning the transfer of
individuals into ICE custody forthe purpose of civil
immigration enforcementencourages illegal immigration
into Chicago?
Or how about agencies sorry onesecond.
Or agents not being able tostop, arrest or detain
individuals based solely ontheir immigration status or
administrative warrant?
Speaker 10 (39:39):
So we comply with all laws, local, state and
federal.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
To me after this line of questioning.
It's very clear that thesepolicies that you have all
implicated are active and aliveand well in your cities, are in
direct violation with US TitleVIII Code Subsection 1324 and is
a federal offense.
But you all speak about a brokenimmigration system and yet here
you guys are aiding andabetting in that entire process.
I want to be very clear aboutsomething Open border policies,
(40:03):
which is something here you guysare aiding and abetting in that
entire process.
I want to be very clear aboutsomething Open border policies,
which is something that you guysare talking about, hurts people
on both sides, meaning thepeople that are coming here
illegally and then Americancitizens as well.
I do not think you guys are badpeople, but I think that you
are ideologically misled, whichis why, unfortunately, based on
(40:24):
your responses, I'm all going tobe criminally referring you to
the Department of Justice forinvestigation and as soon as I
leave here, these will be goingover to Pam Bondi.
I'm not doing that to an effortto bully you guys, but I do
believe that your policies arehurting the American people and
you can make that known with theevidence that you can present.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Okay, you heard her.
As soon as she leaves there,she's sending that over to the
DOJ All right Family.
I didn't play AOC grillingMayor Brandon Eric Adams of New
York City, but she gave him agrilling and so did the other
Democrats, because he's playingcards now with Tom Holman, the
(41:07):
border czar under the Trumpadministration.
But it was a rough day for,especially for Brandon Johnson
and Mayor Eric Adams, the twoblack and mayors up there mayor
of New York City and the mayorof Chicago Illinois.
(41:28):
Those were the two.
There were four of them upthere.
The mayor from Boston, the woollady, and Johnston, a white man
from Denver, the mayor of Denver, and then you had Eric Adams
and Brandon Johnson and they hadthey got banged up the roughest
(41:48):
and that's where we at with thefamily.
But I thought that would beproper and interesting.
I found it very interesting.
I watched it and I watched iton purpose.
But I want to touch on familyis the let me get some music
back up in here real quick.
What I wanted to touch on wasthe.
(42:10):
Was the um that, that that 6.9billion dollars spent here in
new york city?
Right, let me get these levelsright.
Okay, yeah, I wanted to talkabout that because that when I
(42:33):
heard that they he spit thatthat statistic off, I hit the
ceiling.
I hit the ceiling and I wentinto attack mode right away.
I called, called Divine Me andDivine Me playing phone tag this
last week.
You know he's the chair over atthe United States Freedmen's
(42:55):
Project and that's my brother Iwork.
You know I'm down with thatbrother man and you know we
together on things.
He texts me and he was likecause, when I hit him with it,
he, he texts me right back andhe was like, yeah, me and you on
the same page with that.
(43:17):
See, right now, new York city,new York state, rather, we have
the um, the the reparationshearings, going on.
The commission, they have areparations commission going on
and they just had a meeting upthere in Rochester, new York.
I didn't make that, I didn'tmake it.
(43:39):
I went to the one back inOctober I think that was October
5th of 2024, but they just hadone, I think a week or two ago
in Rochester, new York, and Iwant to find that because the
sister laid into them up there.
The sister laid into them andlet me find that real quick, let
(44:01):
me find that real quick, let mefind that real quick.
Where's she going to find that?
Speaker 14 (44:04):
In California it's still the same thing.
It's a waste of time and I'm soglad that FBA brothers and
sisters are really calling thisout.
And in New York you had a greatFBA sister that went up there
and just told them aboutthemselves, told them what
they're doing.
It's a waste of time and you'regoing to listen to how they're
(44:26):
trying to crowbar immigrantsinto this, which ain't no
immigrant went through slaverywithout ancestors.
Let's go ahead and check thisout.
Speaker 13 (44:34):
To the commission.
You were set up to fail.
Other commissions had executivedirectors, staff, research and
legal teams.
You weren't even allowed tospeak to each other before being
sworn in.
Does that include relatives oris that a conflict?
Anyway, if you know the law, youknow that this bill and this
commission is a time-wasting,heel-spinning joke.
More democratic symbolism oversubstance.
(44:56):
Why pass a blatantly illegal,unconstitutional bill than use
taxpayer funds for a commission?
Commissioners may not begetting paid, but other staff
and researchers are.
Race-based compensation willnever become law, and this isn't
just a valid point.
It's constitutional law and, aswe have seen with the
(45:17):
overturning of DEI andaffirmative action, labeling it
African descent doesn't changeits race-based nature.
Legislators can pass bills, butthat doesn't mean they'll
survive legal scrutiny Legalscrutiny like Ed Blum, who is
laser-focused on knocking thisbill down.
The Freedmen Project went tolegislators and told them that
(45:39):
they got it wrong.
They told them they wanted itamended.
They told them to repeal theexisting bill currently signed
into law.
The freedmen came in hand witha constitutional bill with the
recipients, based on our legalstatus as freedmen.
They went around to differentlegislators and the assembly and
state senate.
They talked to them, they satwith them.
They sent letters and phonecalls, but due to what I can
(46:01):
only assume is the inability oflegislators to see themselves
benefiting from this legal bill,we faced what we always face in
this country, except this timeit's from skinfolk proving in
action that they aren't thekinfolk of the FBA freedmen.
How telling is it that we'regetting the same treatment as we
(46:22):
have with other legislators whodon't share our skin?
How does this free us?
I guess the legislators wouldbe unqualified to tell us, or
they are purposely sabotagingour reparations because they do
not have a bill that's worth ahill of beans.
So there may be only 44 millionof us, but we are 44 million
who are used to fighting and Idon't mean to sound pejorative,
(46:45):
but we are 44 million who don'trun from a fight.
Foundational black Americanimpact and influence.
Our presence over power is soeffective in fighting that
people immigrate here from allover the world to benefit from
the fruits and gains of thecivil rights that we fought and
died for.
Since this bill is alreadydeader than a doornail, I come
(47:05):
to speak before my neighbors.
I come to serve you.
Notice that when this bill dies, we, the FBA freedmen, will
remain standing and fighting aswe have for centuries on this
land drenched in our blood, and,in closing, including your
report, that this bill isunconstitutional and illegal and
isn't worth the paper it'swritten on, and you know it.
(47:27):
Have a good day.
Thank you, brooke.
We appreciate your testimony,woo.
Speaker 14 (47:31):
Woo Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo man.
Speaker 13 (47:38):
Fair use.
Speaker 14 (47:38):
Just to say it was so spot on.
And let me tell you somethingwe need more people like that
out there in these cities.
Come and deliver that message.
And let me tell you somethingwe need more people like that
out there in these cities.
Come and deliver that messageand let them know that, see, the
worst thing they could havegave black folk was access to
each other and access to theInternet.
(47:59):
Because, see, what they're notused to is now.
We like to read, we like toresearch, we like to find out
about the law, we like to findout about the law, we like to
find out about the constitution.
And so when we do talk to you,it's going to be with something
of education, it's not going tobe this talk out your head.
See that previous generation.
(48:21):
They could have did this and ithad been okay.
Yeah, you know, yeah, blackpeople in those, she said,
african descent, trying tocrowbar in immigrants, right.
And then the Democrats werelike, yeah, we passed
reparations, come both for us.
And then, when the Republicansgo to court on it, they were
like, oh man, well, we tried,but the but man, the meaner
(48:46):
Republicans struck it down.
But they knew when they set itup that way, it was going to get
struck down.
So they're playing both sides.
The Democrats know what they'redoing when they're trying to
make it race-based.
They know good and well has tobe lineage-based.
They know that.
And the term freedman is a termfor us.
That's already in the federallanguage.
We had a Freedman's Bureauright.
(49:08):
So it has to be for thefreedmen.
You have to put that language.
You can't say black, you can'tsay African American, you can't
say anything like that.
You have to say freedmen, youhave to say lineage based,
because if you do it off ofcolor it's going to get struck
down.
And if you did it off of color,well, anybody can come in and
(49:29):
say I'm black.
I just saw a story the other day.
He had some white peopletalking about oh, we did our DNA
.
Finally, we was 2% Nigerian.
So then they went to Nigeriatelling people hey, I'm 2%
Nigerian.
And then he went over theregetting some little plaque from
them and dressing some Nigerianclothes.
I shook my head at that.
Two percent of anything is notwhat it is, but that's what
(49:51):
they'll be doing If they allowedit to be race based.
You have white folk saying, hey, I'm three percent black.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
That means that's a good point Brother Phil brings
up in like said fair use.
By the way, that is a greatpoint that he brings up, because
right here in new york and andI haven't hooked up with divine
yet because he's busy, I'm busyand our schedules just are so
conflicting but we're gonna haveto put something to the side,
um and and get this thing, getthis, get, get on this thing,
(50:27):
because those commissions are awaste of time.
Right here in New York Citythey allocated I think it was $5
million for this commission todo a study or whatever,
something similar to what theydid out in California.
Right, it ain't nothing but amoney grab for those people on
those commissions.
Because we know our history,the freedmen, our history is
(50:51):
American history, we know whathappened.
It's strewn in the historybooks of America.
It is no matter what they takeout, or the educational
departments, and whatever theytake out, whatever books or
whatever they take out, likethat sister said, up there, our
blood is soaked in this soil.
(51:12):
Soaked in the soil.
That's not going to changeanything.
You taking, not talking aboutit taking it out.
So these commissions are awaste of time and this is what I
want to get, with DivineWitness, the United States
Freedmen's Project.
I want to work with them to seeif we can circumvent these
(51:34):
governors and take this thingstraight to Congress, because
these people are not doinganything.
They're not.
Those people on that reparationscommission are filled with
foreigners, either African orfrom the Caribbean, and those
people do not want us to have it.
The American blacks to have it.
(51:56):
That's just a fact.
It may sound harsh, but that isthe fact of the matter.
They don't want us to have itbecause they are not included in
the claim.
It is a status-based claim forthe freedmen.
If you're from the continent ofAfrica or from anywhere in the
(52:17):
Caribbean or any of those othernations, you do not qualify for
a freedman's claim.
You cannot trace your lineageback to the freedman and that's
the problem.
This is why they want to putthese foreigners in this one.
They have all these foreignpeople on these commissions
because they know they're notgoing to vote for a status-based
(52:40):
or lineage-based.
I like to lean more towardsstatus because our status is
federally, federally recognized.
Stay with me on this one.
Speaker 8 (52:52):
Family, stay with me on this one all of y'all
listening to me, stay with me onthis one let's have at it.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
You just heard me, adams, I played it.
You heard it 6.9 billion in thecity of New York, not the state
, the city, but people.
Folks want to tell us webegging for what's ours.
You giving this money away toforeign nationals?
That ain't supposed to be here.
(53:20):
Y'all follow me, listen, we'renot going to stay too long on
this.
We're going to move on becausewe're running out of time and I
want to get y'all out of here.
But I played those things for areason and we had.
I'm not gonna play any clipsfrom it.
I was going to, but I'm not.
I want to talk about two thingsbefore we get out of here.
I was gonna talk about three,but one is not even important,
(53:45):
but I may brush it, but anyway,recently, last week, they had
the joint sessions of Congress,where President Trump gave his
address speech to the jointsession.
Right, family, any of you outthere, democrats, you have to be
ashamed If you're listening tome and you are in the Democratic
(54:08):
Party because I don't have aproblem with that that some of
y'all listening to me may beDemocrats.
You may be Republicans.
I'm an independent.
I'm not tied to.
I'm tied to policies.
That's what I'm about policy.
So the parties don't meananything to me, right?
But some of you may beDemocrats.
(54:28):
But I'm telling you, listen tome.
Well, I'm telling you you haveto be embarrassed.
You have to be embarrassed.
Those people got up there lastweek when that man gave his
speech to the joint sessions ofCongress.
Those people showed theirnatural behinds.
(54:49):
They got up there and cut afull family, cut a natural, full
up there.
It's so embarrassing.
Then you got that old Negro, alGreen I think he's from Texas,
congress, from Texas Got upthere and pulled that stunt.
(55:09):
I think it was staged that way.
He pulled that stunt and gotescorted out by the security
people there, the sergeant inarms or whoever was there.
They escorted him out.
He cut a fool and then he triedto say oh, they got me out of
there because I'm a black manand I'm like, shut up with that,
shut up with that.
(55:30):
Right Then, when they censoredhim, they censored him.
I think a couple of days later,a few days later, they censored
him in the Senate, in theCongress, in the Capitol Hill.
They censored him.
And you know, these fools got upthere and they started singing
(55:50):
we shall overcome.
It was cringeworthy.
What are y'all doing?
What are y'all doing?
We're not in 1962, no more.
That's over with.
This is why these young kids,the youth, they don't want to
hear nothing from y'all.
It's embarrassing.
(56:12):
They stood up there singing weShall Overcome the old Negro
spiritual right that they usedto march to when the king was
around, and all of them right.
Then you got this littlestinking.
What got this little stinking?
What's that little stinkingchick name?
What's her name?
(56:32):
Jasmine Crockett.
Jasmine Crockett, this littlemonkey, you know she's around
here and she talking real sassyand slick and jazzy.
All that sassy talk she talksand cursing and she's getting
more and more raunchy.
I heard they called emergency,the Democrats called emergency
(56:57):
censorship meeting and rippedinto a lot of them, her, al
Green and a few other them,because her language is just
atrocious.
Let me see, can I find it.
Let me see, can I find it.
Family, let me see, can I findit.
Just give you what I'm talkingabout, hold on.
Speaker 14 (57:15):
That doesn't mean that we don't have fight left in
our bodies, and so I am goingto fight him every step of the
way until we get what we deserve, because it was my ancestors
that built this motherfucker.
Okay, I'm done now.
Speaker 2 (57:30):
You see, that's a foul mouth.
That's a foul mouth, but she'sa little stinking chick and
she's on doing these little TikTok videos and every time you
turn around.
She called Donald Trump.
She told him to get a backboneand stop being Putin's hole.
That's what she said.
That's what she said.
That's what she said.
But see, that's how out of touchthey are family, because they
(57:54):
think all of that little ratchet, hood, rat, ignorant stuff is
supposed to be appealing to us.
So we could say now oh, look atJasmine Crocker, yeah, we
better go vote for the Democratsnow, see, she be telling them
off.
She be telling, yeah, she bestanding on business.
She's a little stinking monkey,little stinking chick man and
(58:18):
it's all an act.
This girl grew up in a goodhome, mother and father both
there in the home.
Her mother was a postal worker,her father was a Baptist
minister and a businessman.
She went to private school allher life.
And now you're out here talkingall this little ratchet, little
ignorant stuff that onlyappeals to ignorant people.
(58:41):
What you're doing, it don'tappeal to us.
You're not from the streets,miss.
No, you don't have that.
We can see right through that,right.
But yeah, we're gonna get readyto get out of here, family,
because I've been messing upwith the uh, with the sound
clips here.
You know, when I'm doing myresearch, everything is right
(59:02):
there.
Instead of me it bookmarking itand putting it in order, I try
to.
I'm trying to rush and dothings or whatever like that.
But listen, listen, listen,listen.
First of all, before I go, Iwant to, I want to all of you in
the United States, here, newYork, brooklyn, queens, bronx,
(59:23):
all over the United States,north Carolina, charlotte, those
of you out in the UK, those ofyou in the British Indian Ocean
Territory, big shout to you andsalute, keep coming back.
Aurora, colorado and all of youwho listening, keep coming back
(59:46):
.
Now.
I may not be back next week.
I got, I got some things I gotto take care of on a personal
level and I might be, I might beon a hiatus for a week or two.
I'm not sure yet, because I'llsay that and then I'll just get
it in me to get up and work.
Say that and then I'll just getit in me to get up here and
(01:00:08):
work.
So, but as it stands right now,I need a couple of a week or
two off because I got to takecare of some personal issues.
I don't want to alarm you oranything like that, so I'm not
going to say what it is, but I'mgoing to.
I'm going to need some downtimeto chill and get myself
together here, so I might notsee you for another week or two,
(01:00:29):
but we'll play it by ear.
That said, I want to get youready to let you go and hoping
you all go out there in peaceand keep the peace, and I was
going to report on the Stephen ALeBron James situation, but we
don't have time.
(01:00:49):
We want to get out of here andyeah, so that's what it's going
to be.
You know what?
Let me give y'all that.
Let me give y'all that.
Hold on, just give me a second.
Let me give y'all some of that,because you know I just can't
leave like that Hold on, got togive y'all some of that.
Let me give you some of that.
Last night I was in attendanceat the Knicks-Lakers game.
Speaker 8 (01:01:11):
I was sitting courtside where, during a
timeout I believe it was in thethird quarter I was confronted
by none other than LeBron Jameshimself.
Lebron has some choice wordsfor me in regards to comments
I've made prior about him inregards to his son, bronny James
(01:01:32):
.
Before I get any further, letme just put to bed a couple of
things that have been reportedthat are false.
People was talking about LeBroncalled me out my name, or
somebody else, or somebody saidhe called me a bitch, somebody
said he called me a punk, andall of that.
None of that is true.
He was fiery.
(01:01:52):
He approached me during thegame and he said stop effing
with my son.
That's my effing son.
Stop effing with my son.
I said what?
Nah, nah, nah, man, straight upman to man, real talk.
Stop effing with my son.
I said what?
Nah, nah, nah, man, straight upman to man, real talk.
Stop effing with my son.
And I saw how furious he wasand I said we can talk about it
(01:02:18):
later.
Nah, eff that, eff that.
Stop effing with my son.
That's my son.
That's my son.
I said all right, though, fine,and he walked away.
That's all he said.
I knew what he was talkingabout.
I've spoken about this before.
Matter of fact, I heard thatnot many, not all, but a few
players were upset at me aboutthat.
(01:02:40):
I think one player inparticular was Tremont Green,
who I haven't spoken to sinceand has no desire to speak to me
, primarily because of this, Isuppose, and I found out the way
that I found out, which waslast night while I was at the
game.
I was a guest of Ari Emanuel,owner of William Morris Endeavor
(01:03:04):
, founder of William MorrisEndeavor, rather Founder of
Endeavor.
Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Sorry, all right, you get the idea.
That was the other night.
That happened about late lastweek.
That happened and Stephen A wason his podcast addressing
LeBron James.
You know Stephen A had been.
He's a journalist.
He's a sports journalist, notjust a pundit, but a journalist.
(01:03:30):
That's his job to report onsports.
That's his job at ESPN, right.
Then he has the podcast.
That's his personal thing,right?
Lebron was out of pocket.
He was out of pocket.
(01:03:53):
He was out of pocket and asmuch as I like him as a player,
he's.
He's messed the NBA up.
The NBA, uh, viewership is down53 percent.
People don't even watch NBA.
I know I don't watch it.
Right.
These, these guys done messedthe game up.
You got your son there to playwith you in the Lakers and he's
not.
I don't want to call the kid abum, but he's a D-League player.
(01:04:16):
He's not a pro player, andStephen A Smith reports on that
and he does what journalists dotake shots and this guy don't
like it.
That's his son, of course.
He feels some way about it, butthis is what you signed up for,
so I'm not going to stay toolong on that.
Maybe we'll pick it up atanother time.
(01:04:37):
And I do want to get back tothis Jasmine Crockett chick.
The little stinking chick,that's what she is.
A little stinking chick the wayshe's acting.
But yeah, so anyway, family man, we're going to let you go.
We're going to let you go and,in the words of Malik, you must
(01:04:58):
respect life, love justice,cherish freedom, treasure the
peace.
Y'all go in peace until I talkto you again, until I talk to
you again.
Hopefully it'll be next week,but if not, I'll see you on the
other end.
And, um, it's all good.
Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
It's all good family baby, baby, baby, baby, baby,
baby, baby, baby.
Clap your hands, huh, stompyour feet, huh.
(01:05:34):
Clap your hands, huh, stompyour feet, huh.
In the jungle brother, in thejungle brother.
In the jungle brother.
Clap your hands, huh, in thejungle brother.
Clap your hands, stomp yourfeet.
Clap your hands.
(01:05:55):
Stomp your feet.
Clap your hands.
Stomp your feet, clap, clap,clap your hands.
Stomp your feet.
Clap your hands.
Stomp your feet, clap yourhands, stomp your feet.
God, come on, ha-ha, hey.
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