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Speaker 2 (00:27):
yo peace and welcome back freeman's affairs radio,
the freeman's network.
I'm your host, aaron vaughnblack.
And today, april 22nd 2025, themath wisdom, wisdom is the math
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for the day, and that bringsabout culture.
It bonds culture, wisdom,wisdom bonds the culture and,
right off the rip, let me saythank you for tapping back in
and coming to sit with us for afew minutes while we go over
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some of the stories and concernsof the community.
As you heard, as you heard orhave been hearing, there's a lot
going on and before I getstarted, before I get started on
the actual stories that I'mgoing to cover, let me say to
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the Christian world, catholic,christian, let me say
condolences to you, whoever'slistening, and maybe Catholic,
maybe Christian, I don't knowProtestant or whatever
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denomination that you are.
Let me, especially to theCatholic world, let me express
condolences for the loss of Pope.
The Pope, I believe, passedaway yesterday.
He had been ill for some timeand he has expired, and we here
at the Freedman's Network sendcondolences to the entire
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Catholic world and that's whatit is.
So but yeah, back to it.
Family.
We have been dealing with a lotin the past couple of weeks, as
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you know the incident on April2nd out there in Fresno, texas,
the incident involving AustinMetcalf and Carmelo Anthony,
both 17-year-olds, and the twinbrother, hunter Metcalf.
Around 10 am in the morning onApril 2nd, what started out as a
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verbal altercation ended upheightening to a physical
altercation, ended up in a youngstudent losing his life and
that was Austin Metcalf andsubsequently Camelo Anthony, 17
years old, as I said, wasarrested and charged in the
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incident.
Now let me say this before weget really underway here.
Let me say this In my opinionthis is just my opinion, I'm not
saying I'm right I don't thinkthat this incident arised from
the matter of race.
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I don't think it was a racialissue at the core of it.
However, it has become a topicof race in these few weeks that
this has took place.
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In these last couple of weeks.
It has become a racial issue.
The situation coming from awhite nationalist propaganda
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machine and then legacy mediahas been involved in it and, of
course, it was met with staunchresistance from the grassroots
in the black community andindependent media has been met
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head on right and pretty muchcut off at the knees, but the
case is still ongoing.
The prosecutors don't have thecase on their desk, yet they
don't have the files because theinvestigation is still ongoing.
Okay now, as I said, he wascharged with murder one and set
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at a $1 million bail.
Since then, on April 14th hehad Monday, april 14th he had a
bail reduction hearing and JudgeAngela Tucker proceeded over
that hearing and reduced it to a$250,000 bond and the young
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man's family was able to get himout.
So he is home with conditions.
Some of the conditions are hehas to wear an ankle bracelet, a
monitor and he has to always bein the presence of an adult.
This is some of thestipulations to his bond.
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Okay Now, the family has beengoing through a tumultuous
experience since this wholething happened.
Both families now.
Both families.
Both families now, bothfamilies, family.
What I'm trying to express hereat the end of the day, at the
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bottom of all of this, there'sno winners here.
There is no winners.
There's outside elementsoutside of this thing that are
making this thing into somethingelse that it's really didn't
start out, at the core of it,and you know, it's just.
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It has become a thing and thisis really unfortunate.
But this is what happensBecause society has set a
certain precedence and a certaintone.
So now that the roles arereversed, people are jumping the
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gun.
They're jumping, you know.
They're prematurely makinganalysis and predictions and
statements and we just don'tknow.
Now we can assume what happened.
We can assume what happened.
We can assume some of thestories and rumors that are out,
and I'll tell you what I thinkup here, as early stage that it
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is the case is in now, I'llshare it with you and, for the
record, I do not want you toquote me as saying I have the
facts, because I don't.
I can give my opinion or the wayI see how things happened or
may have happened, or what I,from my experiences in dealing
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with criminal justice, what Icould see from from certain
angles, but it's still, it's notmy uh, it's not written in
stone.
Nothing, I say, nothing, nobodysays, until these fact, more
facts come out.
Right now, this this is howmessy this thing is getting hold
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on.
Back in here.
This is how messy this thing isgetting Hold on.
Get the bag back in here.
This is how messy this thing isgetting the judge, angela
Tucker, black woman.
She has been receiving deaththreats because she was the one
that presided over the bondreduction hearing and she
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lowered the bond and she's beengetting threats where she had to
hire extra security to protecther black woman.
So of course you know thatbrought out the blacks of
independence media and thesocial media crowd and the
X-faces and everything has beenon fire.
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So here we go, here we go.
Now, you know they had thecrowdfunding Give, send Go and
the young man was, I think thatfirst week, I think the first
week they we, because I donatedmoney to it to help help out,
whatever, whether it was thebond or legal fees or whatever
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was able to raise over fourhundred thousand dollars, almost
a half million dollars, right,and that has people climbing the
walls.
Family that has the dominantsociety at large.
They are going bananas behindthat.
Because now, and for any of youwho listen to us up here weekly
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, who come up here or whosupport us, if you donated to
this young man, to this, to thissituation with him, I want you
to take your flowers Because andI'll tell you why it's not a
celebration because, as I said,keep in mind, as I said, there
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are no winners.
There are no winners in thisthing on either side, either
family.
There's no winners in thisthing on either side, either
family.
There's no winners.
What I'm saying to you is thatmoney was raised in a short
amount of time the way it was,from people donating five, 10,
20 dollars, 25 dollars, 50dollars.
It didn't come from any bigentertainments, any celebrities,
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any athletes, any milliondollar, the black elitists it
came from none of them.
That money came from peopleevery day, ordinary people like
you and I, from the grassroots.
That's where it came from, fromthe grassroots.
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That's where it came from.
You might have had a few peoplethat you know doing rather well
.
You know they was able to maybeput $500 on it or so, $1,000 on
it or so, but for the most partthat came from everyday people
$5, $10, $20, whatever theycould.
You got children, childrendonating because they seeing
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what's happening and there's apotential.
We always look at things as apotential railroading for this
young man and this is why thecall was so strong.
Right, young kid Now.
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Right, young kid Now.
Oh boy, this, this, this thing.
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I didn't, I did not really wantto get up here and talk about
this, but we have to.
We got to talk about it.
So right away, the dominantsociety, the race hustlers and
the haters came out and theystarted saying, putting out a
narrative, that well, the family, they raised the money and they
brought a new house and theybrought new cars and you got to
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spend the money.
You know Now doing the bailhearing, let me see if I can
find a bail hearing.
Hold on.
Hold on, let me see if I canfind it.
Let me see if I can find a bailhearing.
Hold on.
Okay, yeah, here it is.
Here's the story here.
Let me read the story Now.
Keep in mind now they made allthese assumptions and put out
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this false narrative about howthe family was spending the
money.
And let me read a little bit ofit.
Okay, the 17-year-old chargedwith first-degree murder in the
fatal stabbing of a teen at aFresco track meet earlier this
month has had his bond reducedand will now be on house arrest
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following a judge's rulingMonday agreed to lower Camillo
Anthony's bond from $1 millionto $250,000.
Anthony will be required towear an ankle monitor and stay
inside his parents' home.
If they can post bond, whichthey did, anthony has been in
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the Colon County Jail since hisApril 2nd arrest for allegedly
stabbing and killing 17-year-oldAustin Metcalf, a Fresno ISD
track meet at a Fresno ISD trackmeet.
According to witnessesstatements, anthony and Metcalf
were involved in a verbaldispute and at one point Anthony
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pulled out a knife and stabbedMetcalf once in the chest.
Anthony complied with officersat the scene.
They see that state.
They messed it up right there,and this is from CBS.
Anthony complied with officersat the scene and was taken into
custody.
He wasn't at the scene, he hadran away from the scene.
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While in the police vehicle,anthony reportedly asked the
officer if Metcalf was going tobe okay and if what he did would
be considered self-defense.
Now, this is for whoever theyoungsters are listening and for
you parents that may belistening to this.
You have to, especially yourboys, your children.
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Teach them when they have anencounter with law enforcement
and they may be detained.
Do not say anything.
Get your phone call and callyour parents or whoever you need
to call your guardians orwhoever else.
You don't talk to the police,not that you're trying to be a
wise, you know slick, or nothinglike that.
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You're exercising your rightbecause you're not supposed to
say anything to them that can belater on detrimental to your
case, and this is why they tellyou to stay silent and they're
supposed to give you the MirandaAct, so informing you of such
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rights.
Okay now, okay, I read that.
Okay, all right.
Since his arrest, anthony'sfamily hired defense attorney
Bill Billy Clark and Kim Cole,who promptly requested that
Anthony's bond be reduced.
They put a motion in for him toget the reduction.
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Carmela Anthony's bondreduction hearing.
During the hearing on Monday,anthony's defense attorney
questioned the team's fatherabout his character.
His father testified thatAnthony was an A student.
The captain of both hisfootball and track team was an A
student the captain of both hisfootball and track team.
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Anthony's father also told thecourt that he's the sole
provider of their family andcouldn't afford the $1 million
bond amount.
Prosecutors, who only submittedthe police report and no
witnesses, also questionedAnthony's father during the
hearing.
They asked about a separateassault involving Anthony on
February 4th which was handledinternally by Frisco ISD.
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That was the high school.
He wasn't arrested or anythingand there was no law enforcement
and they had to throw that inthere to criminalize him.
It was handled by the school,anyway.
Prosecutors also questioned whyAnthony's family hadn't used
the money donated through afundraising amount account for
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his son's bond.
We do not have access to themoney.
Anthony's father responded Nowthat right there kills
everything they've been puttingout the narrative the family
brought a new house.
Their family had or.
You don't buy a house in a day.
The family had alreadypurchased the property and I
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think it's not even a purchase,I think it's a rental because
they had to move from their,from their former residents
because of this incident.
They were.
The family is receiving so muchthreats and death threats and
things like that, so they had tomove and the address was doxxed
, just like with the judge shehas been, her information has
been been been, uh, doxxed right.
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So the narrative was put outthey brought a new Escalade,
they brought another car.
These people already had thesevehicles.
The father makes money.
No, he couldn't afford the $1million bond, but when he
dropped it down to $250,000, hewas able to bond and brought the
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child out.
The mother's a stay-at-homemother.
This kid comes from a verysolid home, good home, both the
mother and father there.
The mother's a stay-at-homemother I think there's a total
of four children in the houseand the father's there with the
mother.
He works, he makes his moneyand he does good with the mother
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.
He works, he makes his moneyand he does good.
Because the narrative thatusually they looked look for and
when I say they, I mean thedominant society.
What they look for is oh, he'sa thug, he's a gang member, he
come, you know, his father'sgoing to father around and
mother's a way of fear, aSection 8 queen, and she's
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ghetto and ignorant.
And you know, that's thenarrative.
That's usually what they wantto.
They feed to the public.
Right.
Couldn't do that this trip, sothey started lying right away
and we met them head on.
We met them head on with it,told them no, no, you're not
gonna put this out, you're not.
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We met, they met resistancehard, hard.
They met, hard resistance on it.
Because every platform twitter,instagram, facebook, twitch,
whatever youtube we, we was on abumper, hard we was.
We was right there, right therein the trenches with them.
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Every lie they put out, wecombated.
Then you had, you had all ofthe, the um, the black ones, the
black bootlicks, the bootlicks,the bootlick crew, yeah, um.
Well, I didn't hear vinceellison say anything about it.
I heard that his, his, uh,homegirl, april Chapman, she
said a little something about it.
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She didn't get crazy, you know,because usually her and Vince
Ellison, they got smoke forblack folks, especially for the
black church.
But anyway, the Jason Whitlocks, the officer Tatum, charleston
White Though that bunch, theyhad plenty to say about this kid
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.
He should be in jail.
He shouldn't have got no bond.
When you kill somebody, youshould be.
You're supposed to go to jailwhen you kill somebody, no
matter what the circumstances is.
This is what Charleston Whitesay.
Right, he said this.
I'm a hypocrite.
Right, he said this I'm.
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But you're hypocrite andsometimes Charleston White, a
broke clock is, has the correcttime twice in 24 hours.
So some there has been times Ihave played some things, some
profound things that CharlestonWhite has said.
But you know, his thing is hisbrand, that offensive on the
edge, shock jock.
Everything he says and does isfor shock value.
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That's how he makes his money.
These people don't reallybelieve this stuff.
That they saying is JasonWhitlock.
Jason Whitlock was called outby Nick Fuentes, called out,
called him a token on public.
Called out by Nick Fuentes,called out, called him a token
In public and all through theinternet.
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Now, all you know, jasonWhitlock, big chunky behind,
always got smoke for black folks, right?
You had nothing, nothing,nothing to say, not one negative
thing towards Nick Fuentes, andhe's not even a white man.
But you know, nelly Fuller toldus.
Nelly Fuller told us if youwant to know something, the
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truth, from a black person, whenyou ask them something, sit
them in front of a white personand ask them, and you'll get
just what it is.
They'll hold their head downand they will submit.
But you sit them in front ofblack people, they'll huff and
puff and buck up at you and poketheir chest out and yell and
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scream.
Sit them in front of a whiteperson, their voices go down.
They want to talk about Jesusand God and the Bible, and
calmly.
You know, nick Francesco, if hewants to talk, we can have a
conversation.
So yeah, but anyway, anyway,family, let's see if we can,
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let's see if we can, let's seeif we can get some, get some of
the story in here.
Oh my, I don't know if this isgoing to be it or not.
No, that's not it.
Yeah, so OK, we got we.
At least we got that that putout.
At least we got that put out.
At least we got that put out.
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But yeah, but like I was saying, though, this thing is.
They put out lies and lies andlies about the family using the
money for all kind of nefariousstuff.
And they were talking and wemet that and killed it.
We just killed it.
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And salute to Dana with the data.
Salute to her.
I was on, I was on the othernight.
I was on the other night on herx space.
I joined in her x space.
I forget the topic wassomething about the diaspora,
but go look at her thing.
I think it was, um, I think itwas sunday night, sund, sunday
night.
Sunday night I got in on herlive.
I was up there and I said alittle something.
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It was nice.
And also salute to our sister,voodoo Doll.
Y'all go to Voodoo Doll channelon YouTube and check her out,
young sister doing her thing.
And we up here at FreemansAffairs Network Radio we
absolutely love Voodoo Doll TV.
Go check out Voodoo Doll, youngsister doing her thing.
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Man and she be holding it down,she be holding it down.
But anyway, back to this thing,family, because we not going to
stay long.
I'm already up here.
The clock says 24 minutes and35 seconds.
So we want to going to staylong.
I'm already up here what theclock says 24 minutes and 35
seconds.
So we want to get out of here.
I don't want to stay long atall, but yeah, that's what's
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been happening Now.
They did have a rally.
They did have a rally over, Ithink on the 19th.
That was Saturday the 19th.
They call Protect White Americagroup One of the January 6th
guys.
He's heading the group there.
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Let me see, can I find it.
Let me see, can I find it.
Yeah, we got it.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
We're going to pull it right up here, hold on Month
after month, year after year,and I'm tired of the anti-white
racism, I'm tired of anti-whitehate, I'm tired of anti-white
violence.
Let's make a stand together now.
Let's make a stand togethertoday.
I see right now Antifa, hamas,some other massive group of
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people that's the police areresponding.
We had to answer the call to God.
We cannot sit silent when thesetype of acts are crushing and
killing people.
White Americans are living inabject fear.
This is tyranny.
This is the tyranny ourfounding fathers warned us about
.
We are asking the Americanpeople do not be silent on this
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issue.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, family.
So you heard that Now in thisrally, in this protest, somebody
called the Metcalfe father Hisname is Jeff Metcalf and asked
him to speak.
They wanted him to speak to thecrowd.
There was only about two dozenpeople there at this rally.
It was a failure for the public.
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They think it would be hundredsand thousands of people out
there.
It was two dozen people outthere.
Now they did call the father tospeak to the audience and the
father told them listen, you'repart of the problem.
He's talking to the founder ofProtect White America.
He said you're part of theproblem and I want you to take
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my son's photograph, his schoolphoto, off of your website.
I don't want to have my familyand I don't want to have my
family and I don't want to haveanything to do with you.
Now it could be all cap, butthe father has been coming out,
as I said, since the verybeginning, when this thing first
happened, and saying that hedon't want people to make this
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issue of race, because it's not,and I am of that mindset.
I don't believe that it makethis issue of race because it's
not, and I am of that mindset.
I don't believe that it startedout that way, and I think the
more now the police are stilldoing the investigation.
I believe I'm of the mind thatthe police have to because
there's no video or nothing hasbeen released.
Now, one thing I want you tokeep in mind is that if, now,
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one thing I want you to keep inmind is that if, if there was
any clips or snippets ofanything that would point to
this Camillo Anthony kid asbeing aggressive or starting
this thing or being in the wrong, they would, they would have
been released already.
I think what they're doing,because they confiscated a lot
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of the students phones to seewho was filming, and I think
they're telling the father thatit doesn't look good because
from from a couple of accountsthat they, these two brothers,
these twins, they were theaggressors, they went to this
kid because they supposedlyquote unquote don't quote me on
this, but there's been reportsthat has has been saying that
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they are known bullies and theywent and tried to bully this kid
and it didn't work.
Well, this is some of thethings that are being said Now.
They're still investigating,they haven't released any video,
have videos, they have videos,and I'm thinking from my
experiences with these kind ofthings.
I'm thinking that the policeand the prosecutors are telling
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the family look, it's notlooking good, because the
narrative is this Austin wasinnocent and he shouldn't have
been killed, which he shouldn'thave been.
It shouldn't have escalated tothat.
My thing is why they didn't ifthis kid, they said he was
trespassing.
It started pouring down raining.
At this event, the kid, carmeloAnthony, went up under the tent
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to get out of the rain and itwas one of the, the competing
schools.
It wasn't his school, but andthis is what led to the, to the
verbal disagreement.
And now you know, you had JudgeJoe Brown talk about hey, he
was, he was trespassing, he wastrespassing and stop it, stop it
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.
There was kids under that sametent from other schools that
were under that same tent.
Were they trespassing also?
So we'll get the facts as thecase progressed.
We'll get the facts.
Now here we go, right.
There's two of them approachingthis kid.
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Now some accounts, some peopleare saying that a phone was
snatched out of his hand becausewhen they approached him he was
on his phone.
He was sitting by himself onthe phone.
They came over to him.
I heard one account, one or twoaccounts, saying that they
snatched the phone from him andsmashed it.
That's a robbery.
Okay, that's a felony robbery,especially if it was an iPhone.
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That's a felony robbery.
Now he some statements said.
He said touch me and see whathappens.
Some statements were made andsaid touch me again and see.
So if he said that, that meanshe was already violated once his
personal space.
Now there's two of them, two ofthem right.
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So let's see where this goeswith the self-defense thing.
Let's see where this goes.
But we got to, we got to move.
We got to move Cause I, like Isaid I want to move quick and I
want to, I don't want to keepyou here all day.
And we got to go to this otherstory.
He, right here in New Yorkstate, upstate New York, we
prison, another inmate waskilled.
Now you know, you had a monthor two ago you had Robert Brooks
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.
It was about a month, about twomonths ago Robert Brooks was
killed in an upstate prison,upstate New York.
And now this story, let's go toit, Hold on.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Welcome back here on Live Now from Fox 336 on the
East Coast and 1236 on the WestCoast.
My name is Josh Breslow and I'mhere to bring you all of your
top stories and live events fromacross the country and across
the world.
I do want to get to adeveloping story that we are
following now, as 10 New Yorkprison guards have been charged
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in connection with the fatalbeating of a 22-year-old inmate
last month, including twocharged with murder.
It's the second time a group ofcorrectional officers in that
state has been indicted for adeath behind bars this year.
We are hearing from the stateattorney right now providing
more information, so let's popup the audio and listen in All
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right.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Good afternoon everybody also.
Good afternoon.
My name is Bill Fitzpatrick.
I am the Onondaga Countyelected DA and I have been
appointed special prosecutor bythe Attorney General, letitia
James, to investigate the deathof Messiah Nantwee, which, as
you know, occurred on March 1stof this year.
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Today in Oneida County, grandjury reported out a single
indictment charging 10 currentand former corrections officers
with various crimes relating tothe death of Mr Nanwe.
Six other corrections officers,who have not appeared in court
yet, have agreed to cooperatewith the special prosecutor, and
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I have made deals with them.
Two of them will be pleading tofelonies and four of them will
be pleading to variousmisdemeanors.
All defendants, even those thatI've made deals with, are
entitled to the presumption ofinnocence.
An indictment is only anindictment.
It's a set of allegations andthere's a lot of work yet to be
done in this particular case.
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I'd like to summarize for youwhat is in the public record
regarding the indictment.
As to the events of SaturdayMarch 1st of this year, as you
all know, and as CommissionerMarcello is acutely aware, at
that time there was acorrections officer strike going
on.
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There was also an influx ofNational Guardsmen that were
present at Mid-State and severalother correctional facilities
throughout the state of New YorkAt approximately 10.55 am that
morning.
The people are able to showthat all was well in building 21
where Mr Nantway resided.
I know that because thecorrections officer who was
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assigned to do rounds on thatoccasion walked past his room at
approximately 10.55 am andthere was nothing going on.
At about 10.58 am a call wentout over the radio at the
facility calling for backup.
The evidence will show thatwhen the CERT team responded and
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got there at approximately 11AM, there was virtually no or
minimal effort to determine whatwas the need for the backup,
what the nature of the call was.
No weapons were observed and noassault of behavior was
observed by the 13 members asthey entered building 21.
A non-CERT team member, acorrections officer, recorded
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the last video of Mr Nantwickbefore the alleged assault and
he was no longer able tocommunicate.
That corrections officer exitedthe room and various 13 members
entered.
None of them.
None of them, to our knowledgeat this point, were wearing
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mandated body worn cameras.
Approximately four and a halfminutes later, mr Nantwee is
removed from his room and takendown three sets of stairs where
it is alleged by the grand jurythat an additional assault
occurred in the stairwell,handcuffed and taken to the
infirmary and laid on the floorin a holding cell.
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An additional assault isalleged to have occurred by the
grand jury.
An additional assault isalleged to have occurred by the
grand jury.
Fragments of Mr Nathwee'sentrance into the infirmary are
captured on one correctionsofficer's body worn camera.
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It is not a continuing flow, butthere are enough indications to
name and identify theindividuals involved and some of
the things that occurred.
Many other corrections officers, apparently intentionally,
either turned off their cameras,placed them in an area of
concealment or simply looked theother way.
Conkle ambulance personnelresponded to the infirmary
following a call at 1136 AM, atapproximately 1147 AM and at
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that point detected no signs oflife in Mr Nantwick.
It was determined by theOnondaga County Medical Examiner
that Mr Nantwick died fromtraumatic brain injuries as a
result of violent blows to hishead, as well as at least 69
other serious blows about hisbody.
No COs required any medicalintervention.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I can't take it no more.
I can't listen to no more.
I'm sorry, family, I can'tlisten to no more.
What, what, why was thatnecessary to do that?
Why that many blows to the headand body that?
(36:47):
Why that many blows to the headand body?
Now this kid is in there doinghis time.
I was 22 years old doing hisbig.
What's that?
What's that?
Mid-state, mid-state correction?
I've never been to mid-state,um, but I know, I know about it.
Why and this is the second onein 2025.
We only in April.
This is the second incident anda New York State inmate has
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been murdered by correctionsofficers.
See, this is why I said at thetop of the program there's so
much going on, man, we can'teven keep up with all this stuff
.
We can't keep.
We got, and it's man, we'regoing to be spread thin With all
of these uphill battles we got.
(37:29):
We're going to be spread thin.
This is why I say we don't havetime to worry about nobody else
.
We have enough on our platesfoundationals Friedman talking
to you.
We have enough on our platesFoundationals Freedmen Talking
to you.
I don't want to listen to nomore of that.
I don't want to listen to nomore, but we're going to stay
(37:50):
with the story.
That just hurt me.
That was actually the firsttime I listened to it in length
Like that, and it's verydisturbing, I should say.
Now, letitia James is over this.
She's the Attorney Generalpresiding over this incident,
(38:11):
but she's in a wee bit oftrouble herself there.
Yeah, she's in a wee bit oftrouble.
Let's go to her.
Oh boy, oh boy, let me see if Ican get her.
Wait a minute.
Yeah, she's being investigatedright now.
(38:32):
She hasn't been charged withanything, but she's being
investigated for mortgage fraud.
Let's go to the story.
Hold on.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
General Letitia James' office is blasting a
federal criminal referral,potentially targeting the AG.
The Department of Justice isbeing asked to investigate after
the director of the FederalHousing Finance Agency claimed
that James falsified records forhome loans in Virginia.
The referral says James listeda Virginia property as her
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principal residence in 2023,despite holding office in New
York.
Federal officials also sayJames misrepresented the number
of units at a Brooklyn propertyand previously listed her father
as a spouse for more favorableloans.
A spokesperson for Jamesreleased a statement reading.
Attorney General James isfocused every single day on
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protecting New Yorkers,especially as this
administration weaponizes thefederal government against the
rule of law and the Constitution.
She will not be intimidated bybullies, no matter who they are.
Joining us for a closer look atthe referral is legal expert
Nicole Branecki.
Nicole, thank you for joiningus.
This referral comes after Jameslaunched a civil fraud trial
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into the Trump organization.
Do you anticipate action fromthe DOJ, including criminal
charges?
Good afternoon, cindy.
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 7 (39:54):
I think we all remember the big, bold civil
fraud case that she broughtagainst Trump and prevailed, and
she has built her entire careeron exposing deception.
So right now it's a veryproblematic situation for her
because she's being accused ofthe same act that she accused
Trump of, and I think there is ahigh probability that they will
go after her.
Civil fraud is when you sign adeclaration or make any
(40:16):
statement to obtain somefavorable outcome, some benefits
of any type so in thisparticular case it would be more
favorable mortgage terms.
If that is proved, then thatconstitutes civil fraud.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
So the referral mentions other mortgage fraud
cases involving public figuresin other parts of the country.
Does that precedent hold anyweight?
Speaker 7 (40:38):
Precedents hold weight in terms of federal law.
Any weight Precedents holdweight in terms of federal law.
So if this is prosecuted as afederal act and these prior acts
were also federal then itdefinitely holds a precedent
because it pertains to the samestatutes.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Now some of the allegations are decades old.
Are there any statute oflimitations on mortgage fraud
cases?
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Yes, there are statutes of limitations on all
types of fraud cases, becausetime passes and witnesses
disappear, documents disappearand memories wane, so there is a
statute of limitation.
I think that is why that lastinstance, where she allegedly
declared her husband her father,her husband, that was mentioned
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last in the letter because it'sjust, I think, inflammatory at
this point because it was solong ago.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Okay, nicole Brunecki , thank you so much for your
insight.
Stay with CBS News New York forthe very latest, as this story
continues to develop.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
We have a reporter digging into yeah, she's in a
wee bit of trouble there, folks.
She's in a wee bit of troublethere, folks.
She's in a wee bit of troublethere.
You know she went after Trumpand have made him, got him
prosecuted and convicted andwell, I don't know if he's
(41:55):
convicted of that in that case,but she went after him for the
same type of thing with with the, with the real estate thing,
but in turnaround.
And you now you're beinginvestigated for mortgage fraud.
Same thing.
You said that no one's above thelaw for remember her up there
(42:15):
at the podium shaking her head,and you know, and see we don't
feel we're not standing now.
She ran as a friday she ran anddid a pressure at, uh, the
national, the national actionnetwork, without shopping.
She went up there that I wasrepping our shopping and the
national action network.
She went to them, the moldnegroes up there, and held the
(42:36):
presser and, um, now you seethey it never fails, never fails
, never fails.
They come down when they get introuble.
They're going to blackity,blackity, blackity, black it up
now.
Going to black it up now, goingto rub it out and let them old
senior citizens clap for you andshout for you.
That ain't going to help youwith this, because you, you
(42:58):
weapon, they weaponize the lawagainst Donald Trump and got it
and, and, and they were going,and if Kamala would have won
that election, they were goingto find a way to put him away,
to put him in prison.
And now, and we could havepredict this, if you didn't see
(43:20):
this coming, you, you gotblinders on.
If you didn't see this coming,you got blinders on.
If you didn't see this coming,he's going to.
It ain't so much of him, buthe's the puppet master behind
the strings.
Because now, the guy that blewthe lid off this thing, this guy
was a criminal.
He was, uh, remember the, theelectronics, um, uh, giant on
(43:45):
crazy eddie.
Well, some of you gonnaremember it was back in the 70s.
He was, uh, he had those crazyeddie, crazy eddie commercials,
eddie, uh, antal was his name, Ibelieve his, his brother.
Well, you know, he got out ofthe country, he went back to
Israel and the brother I forgethis name, his last name was
(44:07):
Antar, but his brother was theone cooking the books for the
company, for the electroniccompany.
He was cooking the books, went,got prosecuted, convicted, did
his time.
Now he works for the FBI andthe Justice Department.
They seen how good he was andthey realized he would be
(44:28):
helpful.
Now he works for them, and he'sthe one that blew the lid off
of this thing with Letitia James.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
They sent him.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
They went and sicked him on her.
Go, get him, get him, get him,let's get him.
And he got her.
Now, whether she gets convictedor anything, that remains to be
seen, but they on her bumpers,they on her hard, they on her.
Now, family, let's, because wegot to move, we got to move, we
(44:57):
got to get out of here.
We gotta move, we gotta move,we gotta get out of here.
Uh, the last thing I'm going totalk about up here before we go
is, uh, the, the wallow fromfrom, wallow and gilly podcast,
the million hour for game thing.
They, um, he just recently dida thing uh, hold on on, let me
(45:19):
get it up in here Talking aboutblack business, and he
overstepped some bounds.
I'll tell you what I think in aminute.
Just give me a second to pullit up.
Hold on, hold on, let me get itup here.
Let me get it in here.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Okay, I'm black, I'm black.
Nobody gives a fuck about that.
Kill that shit.
Either you got a good businessor you don't.
All that shit Don't nobody wantto hear that shit.
That's a hustle.
Support me because I got ablack business.
Is your restaurant clean?
Is the food good?
Do you got consistent cooks?
Is the material on your shitgood?
Stop doing that.
Oh, you support the whitepeople.
(45:57):
No, I support consistency baby.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Who the fuck about what color you is?
I'm going to spend my money.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
That's not a paper.
I'm going to spend them mealswhere the fuck.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
I want to spend it at Brothers poorest.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Ferrari lender.
I'm going to do what the fuck Iwant to do while I'm here, but
I'm going to tell you one thingI ain't going to be finessed off
some black shit.
Speaker 4 (46:11):
But one thing about it 70% of you motherfuckers is
not going to.
I'm the fucking fake-assmotivational speaker that taught
this dumb shit.
I'm the number one nigga in thecountry.
You know why.
Y'all seen me come out of thepenitentiary.
Speaker 8 (46:23):
I mean million.
I have nothing against Wallowor anybody who agrees with the
message.
However, I want you to thinkabout black-owned businesses.
Black people are not white.
We don't have many, manygenerations of entrepreneurs
where we've been doing the samebusiness for 50, 60, 70 years.
Like white folks, we don't haveaccess to the same level of
capital.
It takes time to buildblack-owned businesses.
(46:45):
Now, I would never advocate foranybody supporting a black-owned
business that was not doing itsbest.
We know the restaurant needs tobe cleaned.
We know that the work needs toget done.
We know that the customerservice needs to be solid.
But to say I don't give a F ifyou're black, that's a problem,
because there should be apreference for black-owned
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businesses that are doing thejob properly.
Also, we have to understand thatwhite folks ain't supporting
black-owned businesses.
White people been boycottingblack businesses for hundreds of
years and black people boycottblack-owned businesses.
So this idea that somehow wedon't care if you're black, well
, let me just tell you thisAsian people care if you're
Asian.
Jewish people oh, they care ifyou're Jewish.
(47:28):
White people, they may not careif you're white, but they
really aren't going to supportyour black-owned business if
you're black, unless you'remaking money for them by being
the number one nigga in thecountry, in which case they'll
probably give you millions ofdollars.
So no disrespect or anythinglike that.
But at the end of the day, man,we have to stop sharing the
wrong message.
If you see a black ownedbusiness, that is not where it
(47:50):
needs to be, you don't have togive them your money, but you
can give them your love.
Love don't cost you nothing.
It don't cost you nothing tosay, hey, brother, I can't
support this because you need toclean up the kitchen a little
bit better.
Or hey, sis, you know yourproduct has these flaws that you
need to improve upon.
Or hey, man, you know yourcustomer service could use an
upgrade.
You can invest in black-ownedbusinesses without always having
(48:13):
to give money.
But to go and openly speakagainst black-owned businesses
when you've got millions ofhighly inferior white businesses
out here, that's the type ofself-hatred that we cannot
tolerate.
That's my two cents Peace.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.
That's it Right there.
And this is why I like Wallowand them.
I like Gilly and Wallow, I likethem.
Tyreek put out a thing and thatmade people get on his bumper
too.
Tyreek put out a post on Xsaying where they family from.
(48:53):
Because when you have Negroestalking like that, see, now you
done blew up, now right, and nowyou in there, I don't give a
fuck about that.
I don't fuck about that.
Stop that shit.
I ain't getting finessed by noblack because of some black shit
.
I ain't getting.
You know, knock it off withthat all.
And see we and then we got tobe over performative.
Why must we always be theperformers?
(49:16):
You don't see Jewish peopletalking to he in a room full of
other black entrepreneurs he'stalking to you.
See how he talking.
That's the problem I have withit.
Some of what he was sayingmight have been legit.
Some of it might have beenlegit.
It's the way you pushing it outthere.
(49:38):
Why do we feel like we alwaysgot to talk down on other black
folks Jason Whitlock, all ofthese, officer Tatum, all of
these bootlegs but when thewhite folks come in the room,
you're holding your head down.
You're so humble and smiling Hi, how are you?
Yes, I'm glad to see you.
(50:00):
I'm so glad you made it.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, how have youbeen?
How have you been?
When you talk to black folks,man, you're raising your voice.
You got a scrawl on your face.
Why do we have to do that?
So, right away, you have a, andwhen you see a black business,
(50:21):
you, you have a notion, abuilt-in notion, and these,
these niggas, ain't shit.
You know, they ain't nothing.
You got this built-in um thingalready, instead of having the
thing.
You know what these, my folks?
Man, let me go ahead see what'shappening with it.
Let me inquire If it ain't whatI think it should be Now.
(50:43):
Customer service is veryimportant, very important.
You want to have smiles on yourface.
You want to be polite andcourteous to your people who are
supporting you and patronizingyour business.
You want to treat them almostlike royalty.
(51:04):
I would say so.
Yeah, I'm not putting up withno disrespect where I'm spending
my money at, or no flimsyservice where I'm spending my
money, I don't care who it is,and especially and it's even
more so when they're not black.
I'm spending my money, I don'tcare who it is, and, especially
in this, even more so whenthey're not black.
I'm really hot because I don'twant to spend my money with them
(51:27):
other folks anyway and on topof that, the customer services
is flimsy.
Yeah, I'm going to have somevery strong, opinionated words
about that, but yeah, so so youknow he's catching backlash from
this.
Because you came home, you wereselling t-shirts.
(51:50):
You said for five dollars.
You did.
He did about 20 something yearsin the penitentiary.
He came home and got his grindon.
He left the streets alone,started grinding, grinding, and
this was very commendable.
You was buying T-shirts for $5,and you said you were selling
them for $20.
Who was your customers?
Were you selling to Asianpeople or Spanish people or
white people?
(52:10):
Were they buying your T-shirts?
I guarantee you it was blackfolks.
Now that you've made money,you're making millions now
because the Million Doll worthof game podcast is partnered
with Barstool Sports.
Some white folks have now theyback rolling and they sign
contracts.
It was a three million dollarcontract at first.
(52:31):
Now I think they redid it anddid 25 million.
So now you in the money, nowyou're able to.
You've built up a brand and Iloved, I love some of this stuff
.
I played some of this stuff uphere on my platform.
Up here I played some of thisstuff.
I love them, love what they'redoing, and you're able to pay
(52:54):
for different celebrityinterviews and stuff like that
and you have big names on yourshow, so you're blowing up.
But now you done got to thepoint where you stuff like that
and you have big names on yourshow, so you're blowing up.
But now you done got to thepoint where you talking like
that, nah, uh-uh, nope.
Now I'm not on no cancel thingwith them, I'm not gonna push
for that.
But you need to check yourself,man.
(53:15):
You need to really dig yourself, wallo.
Dig yourself, man, and watchhow you talk to folks, man,
especially your folks who gaveyou your start.
You know nobody.
You know what.
Give me.
I did this with the muscle.
I got it out the mud.
No, you didn't.
No, you didn't.
You were selling t-shirtsfive-hour t-shirts for 20 pounds
(53:36):
, so he was beating people.
Then, right, and you had gilly,who was already you, so he was
beating people.
Then, right, and you had Gilly,who was already you know.
He was rapping and doing hismusic and stuff, and you hooked
up with him and y'all made agood tandem.
So don't come like you, somekind of business mogul or some
kind of business wizard and yougot out the mud.
No, no, you didn't.
(53:56):
Same thing with that other bozo, that other bozo not calling
Wallo a bozo.
That other bozo, um, notcalling wallow a bozo, I don't
think he's a bozo.
But the other that, uh, theanton daniels dude.
He's like, he's some kind ofwhatever.
You know, you got, you got a, alawsuit, some money from, from
a lawsuit that your father gotkilled on a job, and you got the
(54:17):
money.
And now you, you portrayingthis thing like you, some kind
of big business dude, and youmake all this money.
You got a settlement man toknock it off lame.
Now he's a lame.
I can't stand that dude, Ican't stand him.
But anyway, family, I don't wantto get into that.
We want to keep.
I'm.
I apologize for losingcomposure, but we got to get
(54:40):
ready and get out of here andI'm trying to get something
where we can really blow.
Yeah, here it is Okay.
No, I won't do that yet.
But yeah, we're going to blowout of here and we're going to
bid you farewell and come backand see us next week.
I don't know what we're gonnatalk about, or who may be here,
(55:02):
I don't know yet and um, and thewords of big king, you must
respect life, love justice,cherish freedom and treasure the
peace.
Y'all go in peace and keep thepeace and we'll see y'all next
time.
We'll see y'all next time, andthat's what it's gonna be family
, that's what it's gonna bepeace.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
And that's what it's going to be family, that's what
it's going to be Peace, outroMusic.
yo peace and welcome back freeman's affairs radio,
the freeman's network.
I'm your host, aaron vaughnblack.
And today, april 22nd 2025, themath wisdom, wisdom is the math
(00:50):
for the day, and that bringsabout culture.
It bonds culture, wisdom,wisdom bonds the culture and,
right off the rip, let me saythank you for tapping back in
and coming to sit with us for afew minutes while we go over
(01:12):
some of the stories and concernsof the community.
As you heard, as you heard orhave been hearing, there's a lot
going on and before I getstarted, before I get started on
the actual stories that I'mgoing to cover, let me say to
(01:36):
the Christian world, catholic,christian, let me say
condolences to you, whoever'slistening, and maybe Catholic,
maybe Christian, I don't knowProtestant or whatever
(02:03):
denomination that you are.
Let me, especially to theCatholic world, let me express
condolences for the loss of Pope.
The Pope, I believe, passedaway yesterday.
He had been ill for some timeand he has expired, and we here
at the Freedman's Network sendcondolences to the entire
(02:26):
Catholic world and that's whatit is.
So but yeah, back to it.
Family.
We have been dealing with a lotin the past couple of weeks, as
(02:46):
you know the incident on April2nd out there in Fresno, texas,
the incident involving AustinMetcalf and Carmelo Anthony,
both 17-year-olds, and the twinbrother, hunter Metcalf.
Around 10 am in the morning onApril 2nd, what started out as a
(03:19):
verbal altercation ended upheightening to a physical
altercation, ended up in a youngstudent losing his life and
that was Austin Metcalf andsubsequently Camelo Anthony, 17
years old, as I said, wasarrested and charged in the
(03:43):
incident.
Now let me say this before weget really underway here.
Let me say this In my opinionthis is just my opinion, I'm not
saying I'm right I don't thinkthat this incident arised from
the matter of race.
(04:05):
I don't think it was a racialissue at the core of it.
However, it has become a topicof race in these few weeks that
this has took place.
(04:26):
In these last couple of weeks.
It has become a racial issue.
The situation coming from awhite nationalist propaganda
(04:52):
machine and then legacy mediahas been involved in it and, of
course, it was met with staunchresistance from the grassroots
in the black community andindependent media has been met
(05:15):
head on right and pretty muchcut off at the knees, but the
case is still ongoing.
The prosecutors don't have thecase on their desk, yet they
don't have the files because theinvestigation is still ongoing.
Okay now, as I said, he wascharged with murder one and set
(05:43):
at a $1 million bail.
Since then, on April 14th hehad Monday, april 14th he had a
bail reduction hearing and JudgeAngela Tucker proceeded over
that hearing and reduced it to a$250,000 bond and the young
(06:07):
man's family was able to get himout.
So he is home with conditions.
Some of the conditions are hehas to wear an ankle bracelet, a
monitor and he has to always bein the presence of an adult.
This is some of thestipulations to his bond.
(06:29):
Okay Now, the family has beengoing through a tumultuous
experience since this wholething happened.
Both families now.
Both families.
Both families now, bothfamilies, family.
What I'm trying to express hereat the end of the day, at the
(06:49):
bottom of all of this, there'sno winners here.
There is no winners.
There's outside elementsoutside of this thing that are
making this thing into somethingelse that it's really didn't
start out, at the core of it,and you know, it's just.
(07:10):
It has become a thing and thisis really unfortunate.
But this is what happensBecause society has set a
certain precedence and a certaintone.
So now that the roles arereversed, people are jumping the
(07:31):
gun.
They're jumping, you know.
They're prematurely makinganalysis and predictions and
statements and we just don'tknow.
Now we can assume what happened.
We can assume what happened.
We can assume some of thestories and rumors that are out,
and I'll tell you what I thinkup here, as early stage that it
(07:55):
is the case is in now, I'llshare it with you and, for the
record, I do not want you toquote me as saying I have the
facts, because I don't.
I can give my opinion or the wayI see how things happened or
may have happened, or what I,from my experiences in dealing
(08:19):
with criminal justice, what Icould see from from certain
angles, but it's still, it's notmy uh, it's not written in
stone.
Nothing, I say, nothing, nobodysays, until these fact, more
facts come out.
Right now, this this is howmessy this thing is getting hold
(08:42):
on.
Back in here.
This is how messy this thing isgetting Hold on.
Get the bag back in here.
This is how messy this thing isgetting the judge, angela
Tucker, black woman.
She has been receiving deaththreats because she was the one
that presided over the bondreduction hearing and she
(09:03):
lowered the bond and she's beengetting threats where she had to
hire extra security to protecther black woman.
So of course you know thatbrought out the blacks of
independence media and thesocial media crowd and the
X-faces and everything has beenon fire.
(09:25):
So here we go, here we go.
Now, you know they had thecrowdfunding Give, send Go and
the young man was, I think thatfirst week, I think the first
week they we, because I donatedmoney to it to help help out,
whatever, whether it was thebond or legal fees or whatever
(09:49):
was able to raise over fourhundred thousand dollars, almost
a half million dollars, right,and that has people climbing the
walls.
Family that has the dominantsociety at large.
They are going bananas behindthat.
Because now, and for any of youwho listen to us up here weekly
(10:16):
, who come up here or whosupport us, if you donated to
this young man, to this, to thissituation with him, I want you
to take your flowers Because andI'll tell you why it's not a
celebration because, as I said,keep in mind, as I said, there
(10:38):
are no winners.
There are no winners in thisthing on either side, either
family.
There's no winners in thisthing on either side, either
family.
There's no winners.
What I'm saying to you is thatmoney was raised in a short
amount of time the way it was,from people donating five, 10,
20 dollars, 25 dollars, 50dollars.
It didn't come from any bigentertainments, any celebrities,
(11:04):
any athletes, any milliondollar, the black elitists it
came from none of them.
That money came from peopleevery day, ordinary people like
you and I, from the grassroots.
That's where it came from, fromthe grassroots.
(11:24):
That's where it came from.
You might have had a few peoplethat you know doing rather well
.
You know they was able to maybeput $500 on it or so, $1,000 on
it or so, but for the most partthat came from everyday people
$5, $10, $20, whatever theycould.
You got children, childrendonating because they seeing
(11:46):
what's happening and there's apotential.
We always look at things as apotential railroading for this
young man and this is why thecall was so strong.
Right, young kid Now.
(12:11):
Right, young kid Now.
Oh boy, this, this, this thing.
(12:34):
I didn't, I did not really wantto get up here and talk about
this, but we have to.
We got to talk about it.
So right away, the dominantsociety, the race hustlers and
the haters came out and theystarted saying, putting out a
narrative, that well, the family, they raised the money and they
brought a new house and theybrought new cars and you got to
(12:54):
spend the money.
You know Now doing the bailhearing, let me see if I can
find a bail hearing.
Hold on.
Hold on, let me see if I canfind it.
Let me see if I can find a bailhearing.
Hold on.
Okay, yeah, here it is.
Here's the story here.
Let me read the story Now.
Keep in mind now they made allthese assumptions and put out
(13:14):
this false narrative about howthe family was spending the
money.
And let me read a little bit ofit.
Okay, the 17-year-old chargedwith first-degree murder in the
fatal stabbing of a teen at aFresco track meet earlier this
month has had his bond reducedand will now be on house arrest
(13:36):
following a judge's rulingMonday agreed to lower Camillo
Anthony's bond from $1 millionto $250,000.
Anthony will be required towear an ankle monitor and stay
inside his parents' home.
If they can post bond, whichthey did, anthony has been in
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the Colon County Jail since hisApril 2nd arrest for allegedly
stabbing and killing 17-year-oldAustin Metcalf, a Fresno ISD
track meet at a Fresno ISD trackmeet.
According to witnessesstatements, anthony and Metcalf
were involved in a verbaldispute and at one point Anthony
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pulled out a knife and stabbedMetcalf once in the chest.
Anthony complied with officersat the scene.
They see that state.
They messed it up right there,and this is from CBS.
Anthony complied with officersat the scene and was taken into
custody.
He wasn't at the scene, he hadran away from the scene.
(14:43):
While in the police vehicle,anthony reportedly asked the
officer if Metcalf was going tobe okay and if what he did would
be considered self-defense.
Now, this is for whoever theyoungsters are listening and for
you parents that may belistening to this.
You have to, especially yourboys, your children.
(15:04):
Teach them when they have anencounter with law enforcement
and they may be detained.
Do not say anything.
Get your phone call and callyour parents or whoever you need
to call your guardians orwhoever else.
You don't talk to the police,not that you're trying to be a
wise, you know slick, or nothinglike that.
(15:26):
You're exercising your rightbecause you're not supposed to
say anything to them that can belater on detrimental to your
case, and this is why they tellyou to stay silent and they're
supposed to give you the MirandaAct, so informing you of such
(15:47):
rights.
Okay now, okay, I read that.
Okay, all right.
Since his arrest, anthony'sfamily hired defense attorney
Bill Billy Clark and Kim Cole,who promptly requested that
Anthony's bond be reduced.
They put a motion in for him toget the reduction.
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Carmela Anthony's bondreduction hearing.
During the hearing on Monday,anthony's defense attorney
questioned the team's fatherabout his character.
His father testified thatAnthony was an A student.
The captain of both hisfootball and track team was an A
student the captain of both hisfootball and track team.
(16:30):
Anthony's father also told thecourt that he's the sole
provider of their family andcouldn't afford the $1 million
bond amount.
Prosecutors, who only submittedthe police report and no
witnesses, also questionedAnthony's father during the
hearing.
They asked about a separateassault involving Anthony on
February 4th which was handledinternally by Frisco ISD.
(16:53):
That was the high school.
He wasn't arrested or anythingand there was no law enforcement
and they had to throw that inthere to criminalize him.
It was handled by the school,anyway.
Prosecutors also questioned whyAnthony's family hadn't used
the money donated through afundraising amount account for
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his son's bond.
We do not have access to themoney.
Anthony's father responded Nowthat right there kills
everything they've been puttingout the narrative the family
brought a new house.
Their family had or.
You don't buy a house in a day.
The family had alreadypurchased the property and I
(17:39):
think it's not even a purchase,I think it's a rental because
they had to move from their,from their former residents
because of this incident.
They were.
The family is receiving so muchthreats and death threats and
things like that, so they had tomove and the address was doxxed
, just like with the judge shehas been, her information has
been been been, uh, doxxed right.
(18:03):
So the narrative was put outthey brought a new Escalade,
they brought another car.
These people already had thesevehicles.
The father makes money.
No, he couldn't afford the $1million bond, but when he
dropped it down to $250,000, hewas able to bond and brought the
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child out.
The mother's a stay-at-homemother.
This kid comes from a verysolid home, good home, both the
mother and father there.
The mother's a stay-at-homemother I think there's a total
of four children in the houseand the father's there with the
mother.
He works, he makes his moneyand he does good with the mother
(18:45):
.
He works, he makes his moneyand he does good.
Because the narrative thatusually they looked look for and
when I say they, I mean thedominant society.
What they look for is oh, he'sa thug, he's a gang member, he
come, you know, his father'sgoing to father around and
mother's a way of fear, aSection 8 queen, and she's
(19:06):
ghetto and ignorant.
And you know, that's thenarrative.
That's usually what they wantto.
They feed to the public.
Right.
Couldn't do that this trip, sothey started lying right away
and we met them head on.
We met them head on with it,told them no, no, you're not
gonna put this out, you're not.
(19:27):
We met, they met resistancehard, hard.
They met, hard resistance on it.
Because every platform twitter,instagram, facebook, twitch,
whatever youtube we, we was on abumper, hard we was.
We was right there, right therein the trenches with them.
(19:47):
Every lie they put out, wecombated.
Then you had, you had all ofthe, the um, the black ones, the
black bootlicks, the bootlicks,the bootlick crew, yeah, um.
Well, I didn't hear vinceellison say anything about it.
I heard that his, his, uh,homegirl, april Chapman, she
said a little something about it.
(20:08):
She didn't get crazy, you know,because usually her and Vince
Ellison, they got smoke forblack folks, especially for the
black church.
But anyway, the Jason Whitlocks, the officer Tatum, charleston
White Though that bunch, theyhad plenty to say about this kid
(20:30):
.
He should be in jail.
He shouldn't have got no bond.
When you kill somebody, youshould be.
You're supposed to go to jailwhen you kill somebody, no
matter what the circumstances is.
This is what Charleston Whitesay.
Right, he said this.
I'm a hypocrite.
Right, he said this I'm.
(20:50):
But you're hypocrite andsometimes Charleston White, a
broke clock is, has the correcttime twice in 24 hours.
So some there has been times Ihave played some things, some
profound things that CharlestonWhite has said.
But you know, his thing is hisbrand, that offensive on the
edge, shock jock.
Everything he says and does isfor shock value.
(21:13):
That's how he makes his money.
These people don't reallybelieve this stuff.
That they saying is JasonWhitlock.
Jason Whitlock was called outby Nick Fuentes, called out,
called him a token on public.
Called out by Nick Fuentes,called out, called him a token
In public and all through theinternet.
(21:34):
Now, all you know, jasonWhitlock, big chunky behind,
always got smoke for black folks, right?
You had nothing, nothing,nothing to say, not one negative
thing towards Nick Fuentes, andhe's not even a white man.
But you know, nelly Fuller toldus.
Nelly Fuller told us if youwant to know something, the
(21:56):
truth, from a black person, whenyou ask them something, sit
them in front of a white personand ask them, and you'll get
just what it is.
They'll hold their head downand they will submit.
But you sit them in front ofblack people, they'll huff and
puff and buck up at you and poketheir chest out and yell and
(22:17):
scream.
Sit them in front of a whiteperson, their voices go down.
They want to talk about Jesusand God and the Bible, and
calmly.
You know, nick Francesco, if hewants to talk, we can have a
conversation.
So yeah, but anyway, anyway,family, let's see if we can,
(22:48):
let's see if we can, let's seeif we can get some, get some of
the story in here.
Oh my, I don't know if this isgoing to be it or not.
No, that's not it.
Yeah, so OK, we got we.
At least we got that that putout.
At least we got that put out.
At least we got that put out.
(23:08):
But yeah, but like I was saying, though, this thing is.
They put out lies and lies andlies about the family using the
money for all kind of nefariousstuff.
And they were talking and wemet that and killed it.
We just killed it.
(23:29):
And salute to Dana with the data.
Salute to her.
I was on, I was on the othernight.
I was on the other night on herx space.
I joined in her x space.
I forget the topic wassomething about the diaspora,
but go look at her thing.
I think it was, um, I think itwas sunday night, sund, sunday
night.
Sunday night I got in on herlive.
I was up there and I said alittle something.
(23:53):
It was nice.
And also salute to our sister,voodoo Doll.
Y'all go to Voodoo Doll channelon YouTube and check her out,
young sister doing her thing.
And we up here at FreemansAffairs Network Radio we
absolutely love Voodoo Doll TV.
Go check out Voodoo Doll, youngsister doing her thing.
(24:15):
Man and she be holding it down,she be holding it down.
But anyway, back to this thing,family, because we not going to
stay long.
I'm already up here.
The clock says 24 minutes and35 seconds.
So we want to going to staylong.
I'm already up here what theclock says 24 minutes and 35
seconds.
So we want to get out of here.
I don't want to stay long atall, but yeah, that's what's
(24:36):
been happening Now.
They did have a rally.
They did have a rally over, Ithink on the 19th.
That was Saturday the 19th.
They call Protect White Americagroup One of the January 6th
guys.
He's heading the group there.
(24:56):
Let me see, can I find it.
Let me see, can I find it.
Yeah, we got it.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
We're going to pull it right up here, hold on Month
after month, year after year,and I'm tired of the anti-white
racism, I'm tired of anti-whitehate, I'm tired of anti-white
violence.
Let's make a stand together now.
Let's make a stand togethertoday.
I see right now Antifa, hamas,some other massive group of
(25:29):
people that's the police areresponding.
We had to answer the call to God.
We cannot sit silent when thesetype of acts are crushing and
killing people.
White Americans are living inabject fear.
This is tyranny.
This is the tyranny ourfounding fathers warned us about
.
We are asking the Americanpeople do not be silent on this
(25:52):
issue.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, family.
So you heard that Now in thisrally, in this protest, somebody
called the Metcalfe father Hisname is Jeff Metcalf and asked
him to speak.
They wanted him to speak to thecrowd.
There was only about two dozenpeople there at this rally.
It was a failure for the public.
(26:19):
They think it would be hundredsand thousands of people out
there.
It was two dozen people outthere.
Now they did call the father tospeak to the audience and the
father told them listen, you'repart of the problem.
He's talking to the founder ofProtect White America.
He said you're part of theproblem and I want you to take
(26:39):
my son's photograph, his schoolphoto, off of your website.
I don't want to have my familyand I don't want to have my
family and I don't want to haveanything to do with you.
Now it could be all cap, butthe father has been coming out,
as I said, since the verybeginning, when this thing first
happened, and saying that hedon't want people to make this
(27:03):
issue of race, because it's not,and I am of that mindset.
I don't believe that it makethis issue of race because it's
not, and I am of that mindset.
I don't believe that it startedout that way, and I think the
more now the police are stilldoing the investigation.
I believe I'm of the mind thatthe police have to because
there's no video or nothing hasbeen released.
Now, one thing I want you tokeep in mind is that if, now,
(27:25):
one thing I want you to keep inmind is that if, if there was
any clips or snippets ofanything that would point to
this Camillo Anthony kid asbeing aggressive or starting
this thing or being in the wrong, they would, they would have
been released already.
I think what they're doing,because they confiscated a lot
(27:49):
of the students phones to seewho was filming, and I think
they're telling the father thatit doesn't look good because
from from a couple of accountsthat they, these two brothers,
these twins, they were theaggressors, they went to this
kid because they supposedlyquote unquote don't quote me on
this, but there's been reportsthat has has been saying that
(28:13):
they are known bullies and theywent and tried to bully this kid
and it didn't work.
Well, this is some of thethings that are being said Now.
They're still investigating,they haven't released any video,
have videos, they have videos,and I'm thinking from my
experiences with these kind ofthings.
I'm thinking that the policeand the prosecutors are telling
(28:41):
the family look, it's notlooking good, because the
narrative is this Austin wasinnocent and he shouldn't have
been killed, which he shouldn'thave been.
It shouldn't have escalated tothat.
My thing is why they didn't ifthis kid, they said he was
trespassing.
It started pouring down raining.
At this event, the kid, carmeloAnthony, went up under the tent
(29:02):
to get out of the rain and itwas one of the, the competing
schools.
It wasn't his school, but andthis is what led to the, to the
verbal disagreement.
And now you know, you had JudgeJoe Brown talk about hey, he
was, he was trespassing, he wastrespassing and stop it, stop it
(29:24):
.
There was kids under that sametent from other schools that
were under that same tent.
Were they trespassing also?
So we'll get the facts as thecase progressed.
We'll get the facts.
Now here we go, right.
There's two of them approachingthis kid.
(29:50):
Now some accounts, some peopleare saying that a phone was
snatched out of his hand becausewhen they approached him he was
on his phone.
He was sitting by himself onthe phone.
They came over to him.
I heard one account, one or twoaccounts, saying that they
snatched the phone from him andsmashed it.
That's a robbery.
Okay, that's a felony robbery,especially if it was an iPhone.
(30:12):
That's a felony robbery.
Now he some statements said.
He said touch me and see whathappens.
Some statements were made andsaid touch me again and see.
So if he said that, that meanshe was already violated once his
personal space.
Now there's two of them, two ofthem right.
(30:36):
So let's see where this goeswith the self-defense thing.
Let's see where this goes.
But we got to, we got to move.
We got to move Cause I, like Isaid I want to move quick and I
want to, I don't want to keepyou here all day.
And we got to go to this otherstory.
He, right here in New Yorkstate, upstate New York, we
prison, another inmate waskilled.
Now you know, you had a monthor two ago you had Robert Brooks
(30:59):
.
It was about a month, about twomonths ago Robert Brooks was
killed in an upstate prison,upstate New York.
And now this story, let's go toit, Hold on.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Welcome back here on Live Now from Fox 336 on the
East Coast and 1236 on the WestCoast.
My name is Josh Breslow and I'mhere to bring you all of your
top stories and live events fromacross the country and across
the world.
I do want to get to adeveloping story that we are
following now, as 10 New Yorkprison guards have been charged
(31:28):
in connection with the fatalbeating of a 22-year-old inmate
last month, including twocharged with murder.
It's the second time a group ofcorrectional officers in that
state has been indicted for adeath behind bars this year.
We are hearing from the stateattorney right now providing
more information, so let's popup the audio and listen in All
(31:57):
right.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
Good afternoon everybody also.
Good afternoon.
My name is Bill Fitzpatrick.
I am the Onondaga Countyelected DA and I have been
appointed special prosecutor bythe Attorney General, letitia
James, to investigate the deathof Messiah Nantwee, which, as
you know, occurred on March 1stof this year.
(32:19):
Today in Oneida County, grandjury reported out a single
indictment charging 10 currentand former corrections officers
with various crimes relating tothe death of Mr Nanwe.
Six other corrections officers,who have not appeared in court
yet, have agreed to cooperatewith the special prosecutor, and
(32:41):
I have made deals with them.
Two of them will be pleading tofelonies and four of them will
be pleading to variousmisdemeanors.
All defendants, even those thatI've made deals with, are
entitled to the presumption ofinnocence.
An indictment is only anindictment.
It's a set of allegations andthere's a lot of work yet to be
done in this particular case.
(33:02):
I'd like to summarize for youwhat is in the public record
regarding the indictment.
As to the events of SaturdayMarch 1st of this year, as you
all know, and as CommissionerMarcello is acutely aware, at
that time there was acorrections officer strike going
on.
(33:22):
There was also an influx ofNational Guardsmen that were
present at Mid-State and severalother correctional facilities
throughout the state of New YorkAt approximately 10.55 am that
morning.
The people are able to showthat all was well in building 21
where Mr Nantway resided.
I know that because thecorrections officer who was
(33:45):
assigned to do rounds on thatoccasion walked past his room at
approximately 10.55 am andthere was nothing going on.
At about 10.58 am a call wentout over the radio at the
facility calling for backup.
The evidence will show thatwhen the CERT team responded and
(34:06):
got there at approximately 11AM, there was virtually no or
minimal effort to determine whatwas the need for the backup,
what the nature of the call was.
No weapons were observed and noassault of behavior was
observed by the 13 members asthey entered building 21.
A non-CERT team member, acorrections officer, recorded
(34:32):
the last video of Mr Nantwickbefore the alleged assault and
he was no longer able tocommunicate.
That corrections officer exitedthe room and various 13 members
entered.
None of them.
None of them, to our knowledgeat this point, were wearing
(34:52):
mandated body worn cameras.
Approximately four and a halfminutes later, mr Nantwee is
removed from his room and takendown three sets of stairs where
it is alleged by the grand jurythat an additional assault
occurred in the stairwell,handcuffed and taken to the
infirmary and laid on the floorin a holding cell.
(35:15):
An additional assault isalleged to have occurred by the
grand jury.
An additional assault isalleged to have occurred by the
grand jury.
Fragments of Mr Nathwee'sentrance into the infirmary are
captured on one correctionsofficer's body worn camera.
(35:38):
It is not a continuing flow, butthere are enough indications to
name and identify theindividuals involved and some of
the things that occurred.
Many other corrections officers, apparently intentionally,
either turned off their cameras,placed them in an area of
concealment or simply looked theother way.
Conkle ambulance personnelresponded to the infirmary
following a call at 1136 AM, atapproximately 1147 AM and at
(35:59):
that point detected no signs oflife in Mr Nantwick.
It was determined by theOnondaga County Medical Examiner
that Mr Nantwick died fromtraumatic brain injuries as a
result of violent blows to hishead, as well as at least 69
other serious blows about hisbody.
No COs required any medicalintervention.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I can't take it no more.
I can't listen to no more.
I'm sorry, family, I can'tlisten to no more.
What, what, why was thatnecessary to do that?
Why that many blows to the headand body that?
(36:47):
Why that many blows to the headand body?
Now this kid is in there doinghis time.
I was 22 years old doing hisbig.
What's that?
What's that?
Mid-state, mid-state correction?
I've never been to mid-state,um, but I know, I know about it.
Why and this is the second onein 2025.
We only in April.
This is the second incident anda New York State inmate has
(37:08):
been murdered by correctionsofficers.
See, this is why I said at thetop of the program there's so
much going on, man, we can'teven keep up with all this stuff
.
We can't keep.
We got, and it's man, we'regoing to be spread thin With all
of these uphill battles we got.
(37:29):
We're going to be spread thin.
This is why I say we don't havetime to worry about nobody else
.
We have enough on our platesfoundationals Friedman talking
to you.
We have enough on our platesFoundationals Freedmen Talking
to you.
I don't want to listen to nomore of that.
I don't want to listen to nomore, but we're going to stay
(37:50):
with the story.
That just hurt me.
That was actually the firsttime I listened to it in length
Like that, and it's verydisturbing, I should say.
Now, letitia James is over this.
She's the Attorney Generalpresiding over this incident,
(38:11):
but she's in a wee bit oftrouble herself there.
Yeah, she's in a wee bit oftrouble.
Let's go to her.
Oh boy, oh boy, let me see if Ican get her.
Wait a minute.
Yeah, she's being investigatedright now.
(38:32):
She hasn't been charged withanything, but she's being
investigated for mortgage fraud.
Let's go to the story.
Hold on.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
General Letitia James' office is blasting a
federal criminal referral,potentially targeting the AG.
The Department of Justice isbeing asked to investigate after
the director of the FederalHousing Finance Agency claimed
that James falsified records forhome loans in Virginia.
The referral says James listeda Virginia property as her
(39:00):
principal residence in 2023,despite holding office in New
York.
Federal officials also sayJames misrepresented the number
of units at a Brooklyn propertyand previously listed her father
as a spouse for more favorableloans.
A spokesperson for Jamesreleased a statement reading.
Attorney General James isfocused every single day on
(39:21):
protecting New Yorkers,especially as this
administration weaponizes thefederal government against the
rule of law and the Constitution.
She will not be intimidated bybullies, no matter who they are.
Joining us for a closer look atthe referral is legal expert
Nicole Branecki.
Nicole, thank you for joiningus.
This referral comes after Jameslaunched a civil fraud trial
(39:47):
into the Trump organization.
Do you anticipate action fromthe DOJ, including criminal
charges?
Good afternoon, cindy.
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 7 (39:54):
I think we all remember the big, bold civil
fraud case that she broughtagainst Trump and prevailed, and
she has built her entire careeron exposing deception.
So right now it's a veryproblematic situation for her
because she's being accused ofthe same act that she accused
Trump of, and I think there is ahigh probability that they will
go after her.
Civil fraud is when you sign adeclaration or make any
(40:16):
statement to obtain somefavorable outcome, some benefits
of any type so in thisparticular case it would be more
favorable mortgage terms.
If that is proved, then thatconstitutes civil fraud.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
So the referral mentions other mortgage fraud
cases involving public figuresin other parts of the country.
Does that precedent hold anyweight?
Speaker 7 (40:38):
Precedents hold weight in terms of federal law.
Any weight Precedents holdweight in terms of federal law.
So if this is prosecuted as afederal act and these prior acts
were also federal then itdefinitely holds a precedent
because it pertains to the samestatutes.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Now some of the allegations are decades old.
Are there any statute oflimitations on mortgage fraud
cases?
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Yes, there are statutes of limitations on all
types of fraud cases, becausetime passes and witnesses
disappear, documents disappearand memories wane, so there is a
statute of limitation.
I think that is why that lastinstance, where she allegedly
declared her husband her father,her husband, that was mentioned
(41:17):
last in the letter because it'sjust, I think, inflammatory at
this point because it was solong ago.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Okay, nicole Brunecki , thank you so much for your
insight.
Stay with CBS News New York forthe very latest, as this story
continues to develop.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
We have a reporter digging into yeah, she's in a
wee bit of trouble there, folks.
She's in a wee bit of troublethere, folks.
She's in a wee bit of troublethere.
You know she went after Trumpand have made him, got him
prosecuted and convicted andwell, I don't know if he's
(41:55):
convicted of that in that case,but she went after him for the
same type of thing with with the, with the real estate thing,
but in turnaround.
And you now you're beinginvestigated for mortgage fraud.
Same thing.
You said that no one's above thelaw for remember her up there
(42:15):
at the podium shaking her head,and you know, and see we don't
feel we're not standing now.
She ran as a friday she ran anddid a pressure at, uh, the
national, the national actionnetwork, without shopping.
She went up there that I wasrepping our shopping and the
national action network.
She went to them, the moldnegroes up there, and held the
(42:36):
presser and, um, now you seethey it never fails, never fails
, never fails.
They come down when they get introuble.
They're going to blackity,blackity, blackity, black it up
now.
Going to black it up now, goingto rub it out and let them old
senior citizens clap for you andshout for you.
That ain't going to help youwith this, because you, you
(42:58):
weapon, they weaponize the lawagainst Donald Trump and got it
and, and, and they were going,and if Kamala would have won
that election, they were goingto find a way to put him away,
to put him in prison.
And now, and we could havepredict this, if you didn't see
(43:20):
this coming, you, you gotblinders on.
If you didn't see this coming,you got blinders on.
If you didn't see this coming,he's going to.
It ain't so much of him, buthe's the puppet master behind
the strings.
Because now, the guy that blewthe lid off this thing, this guy
was a criminal.
He was, uh, remember the, theelectronics, um, uh, giant on
(43:45):
crazy eddie.
Well, some of you gonnaremember it was back in the 70s.
He was, uh, he had those crazyeddie, crazy eddie commercials,
eddie, uh, antal was his name, Ibelieve his, his brother.
Well, you know, he got out ofthe country, he went back to
Israel and the brother I forgethis name, his last name was
(44:07):
Antar, but his brother was theone cooking the books for the
company, for the electroniccompany.
He was cooking the books, went,got prosecuted, convicted, did
his time.
Now he works for the FBI andthe Justice Department.
They seen how good he was andthey realized he would be
(44:28):
helpful.
Now he works for them, and he'sthe one that blew the lid off
of this thing with Letitia James.
Speaker 3 (44:34):
They sent him.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
They went and sicked him on her.
Go, get him, get him, get him,let's get him.
And he got her.
Now, whether she gets convictedor anything, that remains to be
seen, but they on her bumpers,they on her hard, they on her.
Now, family, let's, because wegot to move, we got to move, we
(44:57):
got to get out of here.
We gotta move, we gotta move,we gotta get out of here.
Uh, the last thing I'm going totalk about up here before we go
is, uh, the, the wallow fromfrom, wallow and gilly podcast,
the million hour for game thing.
They, um, he just recently dida thing uh, hold on on, let me
(45:19):
get it up in here Talking aboutblack business, and he
overstepped some bounds.
I'll tell you what I think in aminute.
Just give me a second to pullit up.
Hold on, hold on, let me get itup here.
Let me get it in here.
Speaker 4 (45:34):
Okay, I'm black, I'm black.
Nobody gives a fuck about that.
Kill that shit.
Either you got a good businessor you don't.
All that shit Don't nobody wantto hear that shit.
That's a hustle.
Support me because I got ablack business.
Is your restaurant clean?
Is the food good?
Do you got consistent cooks?
Is the material on your shitgood?
Stop doing that.
Oh, you support the whitepeople.
(45:57):
No, I support consistency baby.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Who the fuck about what color you is?
I'm going to spend my money.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
That's not a paper.
I'm going to spend them mealswhere the fuck.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
I want to spend it at Brothers poorest.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Ferrari lender.
I'm going to do what the fuck Iwant to do while I'm here, but
I'm going to tell you one thingI ain't going to be finessed off
some black shit.
Speaker 4 (46:11):
But one thing about it 70% of you motherfuckers is
not going to.
I'm the fucking fake-assmotivational speaker that taught
this dumb shit.
I'm the number one nigga in thecountry.
You know why.
Y'all seen me come out of thepenitentiary.
Speaker 8 (46:23):
I mean million.
I have nothing against Wallowor anybody who agrees with the
message.
However, I want you to thinkabout black-owned businesses.
Black people are not white.
We don't have many, manygenerations of entrepreneurs
where we've been doing the samebusiness for 50, 60, 70 years.
Like white folks, we don't haveaccess to the same level of
capital.
It takes time to buildblack-owned businesses.
(46:45):
Now, I would never advocate foranybody supporting a black-owned
business that was not doing itsbest.
We know the restaurant needs tobe cleaned.
We know that the work needs toget done.
We know that the customerservice needs to be solid.
But to say I don't give a F ifyou're black, that's a problem,
because there should be apreference for black-owned
(47:06):
businesses that are doing thejob properly.
Also, we have to understand thatwhite folks ain't supporting
black-owned businesses.
White people been boycottingblack businesses for hundreds of
years and black people boycottblack-owned businesses.
So this idea that somehow wedon't care if you're black, well
, let me just tell you thisAsian people care if you're
Asian.
Jewish people oh, they care ifyou're Jewish.
(47:28):
White people, they may not careif you're white, but they
really aren't going to supportyour black-owned business if
you're black, unless you'remaking money for them by being
the number one nigga in thecountry, in which case they'll
probably give you millions ofdollars.
So no disrespect or anythinglike that.
But at the end of the day, man,we have to stop sharing the
wrong message.
If you see a black ownedbusiness, that is not where it
(47:50):
needs to be, you don't have togive them your money, but you
can give them your love.
Love don't cost you nothing.
It don't cost you nothing tosay, hey, brother, I can't
support this because you need toclean up the kitchen a little
bit better.
Or hey, sis, you know yourproduct has these flaws that you
need to improve upon.
Or hey, man, you know yourcustomer service could use an
upgrade.
You can invest in black-ownedbusinesses without always having
(48:13):
to give money.
But to go and openly speakagainst black-owned businesses
when you've got millions ofhighly inferior white businesses
out here, that's the type ofself-hatred that we cannot
tolerate.
That's my two cents Peace.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it.
That's it Right there.
And this is why I like Wallowand them.
I like Gilly and Wallow, I likethem.
Tyreek put out a thing and thatmade people get on his bumper
too.
Tyreek put out a post on Xsaying where they family from.
(48:53):
Because when you have Negroestalking like that, see, now you
done blew up, now right, and nowyou in there, I don't give a
fuck about that.
I don't fuck about that.
Stop that shit.
I ain't getting finessed by noblack because of some black shit
.
I ain't getting.
You know, knock it off withthat all.
And see we and then we got tobe over performative.
Why must we always be theperformers?
(49:16):
You don't see Jewish peopletalking to he in a room full of
other black entrepreneurs he'stalking to you.
See how he talking.
That's the problem I have withit.
Some of what he was sayingmight have been legit.
Some of it might have beenlegit.
It's the way you pushing it outthere.
(49:38):
Why do we feel like we alwaysgot to talk down on other black
folks Jason Whitlock, all ofthese, officer Tatum, all of
these bootlegs but when thewhite folks come in the room,
you're holding your head down.
You're so humble and smiling Hi, how are you?
Yes, I'm glad to see you.
(50:00):
I'm so glad you made it.
Oh, yes, yes, yes, how have youbeen?
How have you been?
When you talk to black folks,man, you're raising your voice.
You got a scrawl on your face.
Why do we have to do that?
So, right away, you have a, andwhen you see a black business,
(50:21):
you, you have a notion, abuilt-in notion, and these,
these niggas, ain't shit.
You know, they ain't nothing.
You got this built-in um thingalready, instead of having the
thing.
You know what these, my folks?
Man, let me go ahead see what'shappening with it.
Let me inquire If it ain't whatI think it should be Now.
(50:43):
Customer service is veryimportant, very important.
You want to have smiles on yourface.
You want to be polite andcourteous to your people who are
supporting you and patronizingyour business.
You want to treat them almostlike royalty.
(51:04):
I would say so.
Yeah, I'm not putting up withno disrespect where I'm spending
my money at, or no flimsyservice where I'm spending my
money, I don't care who it is,and especially and it's even
more so when they're not black.
I'm spending my money, I don'tcare who it is, and, especially
in this, even more so whenthey're not black.
I'm really hot because I don'twant to spend my money with them
(51:27):
other folks anyway and on topof that, the customer services
is flimsy.
Yeah, I'm going to have somevery strong, opinionated words
about that, but yeah, so so youknow he's catching backlash from
this.
Because you came home, you wereselling t-shirts.
(51:50):
You said for five dollars.
You did.
He did about 20 something yearsin the penitentiary.
He came home and got his grindon.
He left the streets alone,started grinding, grinding, and
this was very commendable.
You was buying T-shirts for $5,and you said you were selling
them for $20.
Who was your customers?
Were you selling to Asianpeople or Spanish people or
white people?
(52:10):
Were they buying your T-shirts?
I guarantee you it was blackfolks.
Now that you've made money,you're making millions now
because the Million Doll worthof game podcast is partnered
with Barstool Sports.
Some white folks have now theyback rolling and they sign
contracts.
It was a three million dollarcontract at first.
(52:31):
Now I think they redid it anddid 25 million.
So now you in the money, nowyou're able to.
You've built up a brand and Iloved, I love some of this stuff
.
I played some of this stuff uphere on my platform.
Up here I played some of thisstuff.
I love them, love what they'redoing, and you're able to pay
(52:54):
for different celebrityinterviews and stuff like that
and you have big names on yourshow, so you're blowing up.
But now you done got to thepoint where you stuff like that
and you have big names on yourshow, so you're blowing up.
But now you done got to thepoint where you talking like
that, nah, uh-uh, nope.
Now I'm not on no cancel thingwith them, I'm not gonna push
for that.
But you need to check yourself,man.
(53:15):
You need to really dig yourself, wallo.
Dig yourself, man, and watchhow you talk to folks, man,
especially your folks who gaveyou your start.
You know nobody.
You know what.
Give me.
I did this with the muscle.
I got it out the mud.
No, you didn't.
No, you didn't.
You were selling t-shirtsfive-hour t-shirts for 20 pounds
(53:36):
, so he was beating people.
Then, right, and you had gilly,who was already you, so he was
beating people.
Then, right, and you had Gilly,who was already you know.
He was rapping and doing hismusic and stuff, and you hooked
up with him and y'all made agood tandem.
So don't come like you, somekind of business mogul or some
kind of business wizard and yougot out the mud.
No, no, you didn't.
(53:56):
Same thing with that other bozo, that other bozo not calling
Wallo a bozo.
That other bozo, um, notcalling wallow a bozo, I don't
think he's a bozo.
But the other that, uh, theanton daniels dude.
He's like, he's some kind ofwhatever.
You know, you got, you got a, alawsuit, some money from, from
a lawsuit that your father gotkilled on a job, and you got the
(54:17):
money.
And now you, you portrayingthis thing like you, some kind
of big business dude, and youmake all this money.
You got a settlement man toknock it off lame.
Now he's a lame.
I can't stand that dude, Ican't stand him.
But anyway, family, I don't wantto get into that.
We want to keep.
I'm.
I apologize for losingcomposure, but we got to get
(54:40):
ready and get out of here andI'm trying to get something
where we can really blow.
Yeah, here it is Okay.
No, I won't do that yet.
But yeah, we're going to blowout of here and we're going to
bid you farewell and come backand see us next week.
I don't know what we're gonnatalk about, or who may be here,
(55:02):
I don't know yet and um, and thewords of big king, you must
respect life, love justice,cherish freedom and treasure the
peace.
Y'all go in peace and keep thepeace and we'll see y'all next
time.
We'll see y'all next time, andthat's what it's gonna be family
, that's what it's gonna bepeace.
Speaker 1 (55:20):
And that's what it's going to be family, that's what
it's going to be Peace, outroMusic.
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