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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Peace, peace and welcome back Freedmen's Affairs
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And today, may 13th 2025, I gotmy big bro, I got my big bro in
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Speaker 4 (00:45):
Peace, peace.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Peace on in.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
King, peace, peace, man, peace everybody.
Yes, knowledge andunderstanding.
You know, the knowledge is thatwhich can be learned from
everything within our ability tosee, hear, feel, touch, breathe
.
Ability to see, hear, feel,touch, read.
Knowledge is that which weconsciously and subconsciously

(01:12):
gather to aid us in our growthand development.
Gain knowledge through reading,reading text, reading people,
reading situations.
We read and decode movies.
We listen to our elders as wellas our enemies.
All to destroy what?
To develop a greaterunderstanding.

(01:34):
That greater understanding isthat which we are ancestors used
to develop civilization andthat knowledge and understanding
and development of civilizationis what leads to our culture,
which is the greatness of ourexperience, to improve and

(01:56):
continuously build.
That was effective, that wasjust ineffective and detrimental
.
Peace, peace.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Peace.
And may I add on theunderstanding is the best part,
as we would say, because it it.
You have hindsight, insight,foresight, right.
You have hindsight, insight,foresight, right.
And we know understanding to bea composite of knowledge and

(02:32):
wisdom.
So we see understanding asthree-dimensional Right the man
knowledge, the woman wisdom, andthat brings about the child,
which is the best part, theunderstanding.
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Speaker 3 (05:33):
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Hey, got the feeling the wayyou move over there.
All right, we're back in, we'reback in family uh king, still
on the line with me and we can,we can make it do what it do and

(05:57):
see if we can not just bring upthe topics and talk about
things, but see if we can cometo some kind of solutions for
some things.
And that's the goal up here isis to to try to bring about some
solutions.
I don't even know where tostart because we got it's so

(06:21):
much, it's so much that went onand I think the the where we
should start, where we shouldstart, I'm going to see, let's
see, let's.
Let's start with with thesituation up there in Cincinnati
, ohio, with the Ray, maddie,ohio.

(06:42):
With the Ray what was his name?
Rodney Hinton Jr.
That's the brother that youknow the story, the brother that
he's charged now with like avehicular homicide for the
sheriff's deputy up there afterthe son was shot down by the

(07:03):
police.
Rodney Hinton, rodney Hinton Jr.
Yeah, and it's been wild upthere.
It's been wild.
That story is crazy.
Now, as it unfolds more, let meget a bed up in here.
As it unfolds more.
It seems like more and morestories are coming out because

(07:24):
I've heard online I don't knowif it's factual or not, I
haven't been able to check itthey're saying he wasn't even
driving the car.
But I I don't know that.
That what I heard a couple ofyoutubers say that I haven't
heard that in the in the ummainstream media.
But I do know this, I know this, that they are shooken by this

(07:47):
and they don't want this thingto catch on because they know we
have lost faith in thetraditional system, in the
justice system.
We don't have faith anymore.
Every time something happens,these law enforcement gets off,
or it's always some kind of waywhen somebody harms us, it's

(08:09):
justifiable some kind of way.
Now, I don't know, it's comingout now that the car wasn't even
stolen.
It was actually under repossess.
So sometimes in some systems insome states, when the car is
under repossess, so sometimes insome systems in some states,
when the car is on the repossess, it's like it's stolen and it

(08:30):
come up on the hot sheet or onthe data as stolen.
But I don't know why.
That shouldn't be when you atwith this man.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
I mean, you know, like you say, it's kind of early
to make any valid observationsabout this case, because it's
still like breaking news isstill coming out.
They killed his brother and thenext day the family went to

(09:10):
view.
I don't know if it was the nextday, but I know after it
happened, maybe the next day orthe following day, the family
went and viewed the body cam andwhat they said, what they saw,
was different from what thepolice had put out.
The police put out that, youknow, they were riding in a
stolen car and he ran and turnedaround, pulled out a gun and

(09:37):
pointed it at the police.
You know, which, to me, doesn'tmake any sense.
You know, which, to me, doesn'tmake any sense, Because if you
got a gun, you're not going torun and stop and point it at the
police.
You know that, just unless youknow you sometimes brothers be
at the end of their rope.
You know your brother.
He wasn't there, I don'tbelieve.

(09:58):
But anyway, when the father sawthe video and the family left,
he was so distraught that thefamily wasn't even going to
allow him to drive his car.
One of the family members wasthe one that took him home, you
know.
And then, evidently, he cameback.

(10:20):
I believe it was either laterthat day or the next day.
He came back and got his carand he drove it himself.
He said he drove around and hedrove through the lot and he
left one around the corner.

(10:40):
He was driving and he happenedto come across an officer that
was directing traffic.
So boom, he mowed him down.
You know Now what they hisdefense.
The family got him a lawyer.
They're not dependent on thecourt appointments.

(11:01):
They got him a lawyer and thelawyer saying that this is a
case of bad temporary insanity.
That's what it is.
But of course, the dominantsociety with their injustice
system, they always going to tryto send a message.
The message they want that'sbeing sent down here is that we

(11:28):
don't want to have noretaliation.
You know what we do to y'all.
Y'all can't do to us, Becausethat's what it was.
I mean, was it right?
No, Because he got the wrongperson.
The person that he ran downwasn't the same one that that
killed his son, but he wastemporarily insane.

(11:49):
You know, he was temporarilyinsane.
He just wanted revenge, hewanted vengeance, and that's
what he did.
And then, when he went to courtthe police they come like 100
deep to court to try tointimidate him.
And he wasn't intimidated atall, you know he looked them
right in their eyes.
You know he said yes, I did it,you know.

(12:12):
And which is another sign thatthe man was not in.
I'm not going to say he wasn'tright.
I never, you know right,something like that happened.
That's the first thing they say, that he was insane.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
But overtook him with grief.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Yeah, exactly as a strategy and according to the
law, he was temporarily insanelike you said he was overcome
with grief, you know.
So he was temporarily insane.
Like you said, he was overcomewith grief, you know.
So now they find out, like yousaid, the car wasn't stolen, the
car was, wasn't paid, it wasrepossessed.

(12:55):
And the tow truck operator thatwent to repossess the car when
he went and found the car, itwas the four young men wereess
the car.
When he went and found the car,it was the four young men were
in the car, sleeping right Nowhe didn't want to approach them
because you know it might haveturned into something else

(13:16):
altogether.
He's one man, you know, againstfour.
So he called the police, right.
And evidently in that state orthat area of county, when the
car is under repossession, theycan also report it as being
stolen, right.
But even so, when it goes to berepossessed, the police cannot

(13:41):
be a part of that right.
And evidently the police told,told Trump driver, you know that
we cannot assist you inrepossessing that car.
He said, but we will standaround and we'll keep watch in
case things get out of order.
That's why the police.
Supposedly the police werewatching.

(14:01):
They knew these cats wasn'tdoing nothing.
They said the car wasn't doing,that they sat in the car
sleeping.
The car wasn't stolen, it wasunder repossession but it just
wasn't paid a bill.
But it wasn't like they stole acar and they were on a crime
spree.
And they saw the cops and theygot out with guns blazing and he
caught one.
That's what they were trying tosay, you know.
But as far as his father,that's just another example of

(14:29):
universal justice.
It's a self balancing scale.
His brother has a textbook casefor temporary insanity.
He reviewed the body camfootage of his son's murder by
the pole lights.
He was so distraught that hisfamily did not even allow him to

(14:51):
drive the car.
That showed he was by his feetand they left the car at the
police station.
They came back to get it thenext day.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Well, even at the press conference that they did
at the lock up there at theprecinct, they were doing the
press thing and he couldn't eventalk, get his thoughts together
to talk.
He just kept saying to Ryan, I'msorry I'm sorry because that's
the child's name, that was shotand killed and he kept saying

(15:30):
you know, I'm sorry, ryan, I'msorry and you wasn't supposed to
be there, and so on and soforth.
Now, last week I did a programlast week and I addressed the
coons and the bootlicks in blacksociety.
Now, this is why, like you saidat the very top of the story,

(15:52):
we don't jump out until theinformation comes out.
We don't jump out and juststart saying things.
But you got, you know thischick I don't know if you know
her.
She runs with Vince Ellison.
Her name is Today that nut andshe's on.

(16:25):
You know, she's a bible thumperand she, uh, her name is april
chapman.
I don't know if you're familiarwith her.
She's starting to get a littletraction in here.
Yeah, she's starting to get alittle traction in the youtube
streets.
Right, she got a couple, acouple of, uh, I think she got
about 100,000 subscribers orwhatever.
So she's starting to make alittle headway because, like I

(16:48):
told my man Wise, I was on hisshow a couple of weeks ago, the
Righteous Perspective, and wedid a little panel.
I didn't even see it air, Idon't know if he aired it, but I
was on his channel and we did apanel.
And he's saying, you know he's,his thing is always Well, you

(17:09):
know there's a big industry forfor grifters, race grifters and
other people, in other words,black people that always are
playing victim.
And you know the racism, therace card thing, know the racism

(17:29):
, the race card thing, the race.
So I, I texted, I um posted inthe in the chat room that yes,
it is, it is a hustle.
It is a big industry hustle forfor race hustlers.
It's also a very lucrativeindustry for um bootlegs,
because you have even more sobecause you have white society,

(17:50):
that will.
They will send money as long asyou're talking about other
black people and everythingthat's wrong in black society.
They will send cash apps.
They pay pal, they willsubscribe and because they love,
oh, see, one of them evensaying it see, see, you see, and
that that's what this chickdoes.

(18:11):
Now she put out something.
I was listening.
I had to stop listening to itbecause you the facts are not
even all the way out and youalready you got your bible in
one hand and you're thumping andyou're talking about these
parents got to haveaccountability.
When are we going to takeaccountability?
This kid?
You know he's in a stolen car.
They got guns in the car.

(18:32):
How do we even know that thisis he on video with a gun in his
hand On the body cam?

Speaker 4 (18:42):
We know the cops keep throwaways, you know, for
situations just like that.
That's why they keep throwaways.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
But most people don't know that, king, most people
don't know that.
We know that, just like theykeep throwaway drugs on them
when they stop you for a try youknow the movie Three, the Hard
Way, and he has to see hislicense registration.
Oh, wait a minute, what's thaton the floor there?
They do that, that's what theydo.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Even when a cop shot himself in the leg with his
backup gun.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I think I remember that story.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
I think I remember His back up and off.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
He should have lost his job and his pension.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
I think I remember that story.
I think I remember he shouldhave lost his job and his
pension.
He did Good, he was a rookie,good.
You know, the rookies come out,they have them walking the beat
Right, they just walk the.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Because he was going to put that gun on somebody.
He was going to put that gun onsomebody.
He was going to put that gun onsomebody.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
He probably was afraid because this was like in
the 80s, when you know how I washere doing the daydreams it's
the supper, you know the daytimeis quiet, you know people at
work and all the hustlersstaying inside.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Right, it was very deceptional, very de Right, it
was very deceptional, verydeceptional.
Queens was always deceptionallike that.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
Yeah, then at night it turned into Gunsmoke City,
you know.
So he was.
That's why they had the policewalking the street out there and
he probably was afraid.
You know, one of the oldveterans probably told him.
You know so one of the oldveterans probably told him, you
know, carry a backup gun just incase.
So he told me this.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Right, you know, just veering off real quick.
Queens you know Queens used tocatch a bad rap because it was
very residential, People washomeowners and stuff and the
communities were verydeceptional.
So you come out there, like yousaid, in the daytime, you would
see houses and nice manicuredlawns and different things like

(20:53):
that.
But like you said, when that sunwent down, boy, it was a whole
nother world.
You know, you know, rockawayBoulevard, lindenville, all them
spots.
Farmers Northern Boulevard,northern Boulevard, lindenbill,
all them Spice Farmers NorthernBoulevard, northern Boulevard,
105, 104, 105, they call 104street Little Vietnam yeah you

(21:21):
know, out in Left Rack they wascalling Left Rack, chi Rack, chi
Rack, you know.
So it left rack, they wascalling left rack, shot rack
shot, rack, shot rack you know,so it was very deceptive you
know we just did right.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
So we know that the cop can't throw away guns.
So when we hear that part ofthe story about he had a gun,
that's not something weautomatically jump up and say,
oh, he must have been doingsomething, you know, because
that's not the reality.
Right, and this man know hisson For him to go out like that,

(21:52):
he know what time it is, heknow his son wasn't involved.
But none of that's the problem.
And we've seen the tape.
Whatever he saw on that tape,it just solidified his knowledge
and he said I think he took it.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
They took my son.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
They said he had a gun.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
They said he was driving.
I want to see him behind thewheel.
I want to see the gun in hishand.
If I don't see that, I knowthey lying.
And that's when they saw thetape.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
You know it was possible that he couldn't there
was guns in the car.
But it was possible that hecouldn't there was guns in the
car but it was possible that hewas in the car with his buddies
or whatever, and he not had agun.
Because that has happened youjust with your buddies, you
don't know what they you know orwhatever, and it's happened to
me, I've seen it happen to otherpeople.
You know you riding in the car,you don't know cat is dirty or

(22:44):
whatever, get pulled over forsomething, somebody, I know
somebody, but like, yeah,because you know if you ride,
that's why you know.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
I was always careful who I let in the car.
Because you got somebody in thecar who it could be your homie
and he got another homie.
You don't know his other homie,right, and you give him a ride.
Police, pull over, pull youover.
He throw the gun under the seator the drugs under the seat.
Ain't nobody claiming it?

(23:12):
Guess who's going to jail youEverybody.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
You got everybody right, Everybody going.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
They taking everybody , Nobody claiming it.
It belong to everybody.
You go to court, everybody bein charge with it If you go to
court everybody be in chargewith it.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
You got three, four co-defendants for one gun.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Now that's why I stopped doing that.
I caught a case.
A case fell on me, actually anindictment, because I never was
arrested for the case, but I wasalready incarcerated and I'm
upstate and this case fell on mefor for a dude.

(23:49):
That that got him.
I was in a cab one night, theguy friend of mine, he saw me
and he knew the cab stand we wasusing right there on 104th
street, uh co-op, and I wasgoing actually I was leaving
Corona going back uptown to.
I was going, actually I wasleaving Corona going back uptown
to go to my lady house.
I was staying up in Harlem atthe time.

(24:11):
So I was in the cab.
I was going back uptown and heseen me at the light and jumped
in my cab, unbeknownst to me,this cat, he just had shot two
people and somebody was aneyewitness to it and saw him get
in the car with me.
So now I'm upstating on anothercase, you know, serving my

(24:36):
sentence on another case, andthis case fell on me and this
indictment.
I'm like what the hell is thisI had?

Speaker 1 (24:49):
nothing to do with that.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
But you know how I got around that case.
You know I got around that.
When I came back down Right, Igot around that the attorney put
in because I told him I knownothing about none of this and I
put.
He put a motion in for for whatthey call a Wade in court
identification hearing.

(25:13):
I don't know if you ever heardof that.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
No.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Anyway, when you got an eyewitness and you bring them
, it's like they set you up tosee if they can pick you out in
the courtroom.
Instead of me sitting sittingbehind the defendant's desk or
whatever, I'm sitting in likethe front row with the attorneys
or whatever.
So when the eyewitness comes in, it was a girl.

(25:39):
But the girl knew me and shehadn't seen me in a long time.
So when they bring her in thecourtroom for the identification
part, she sees me and startshey, how you doing, how you
seeing a lot Right away, Rightaway.
The judge asked for a sidebarand called the attorney and said

(26:02):
yo what, you know how you couldair hustle him.
What is this Now?
The cat that actually did it.
He was in the courtroom also.
They brought him in thecourtroom also and she never
identified him.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
She didn't identify him either.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
They didn't identify him either, but when she saw me,
she automatically went into.
You know, hey, you know whatyou doing.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Which was proof positive that it wasn't you,
because if it was you, she wouldhave knew, because she know you
, right, ain't that something?

Speaker 3 (26:48):
You know, and that's how I got that case dismissed-
that universal justice.
Right.
So what I'm saying is sometimesit's you know, under certain
circumstances, things can happenand you, unbeknownst to you,
you, these guys, you in the carwith these guys and somebody's
dirty, that has happened.

(27:11):
That's, that's historic, that'syou know you.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
I tell you the reason I look at it like that.
The reason I look at it the wayI look at it is because the way
that justice system is set up,that when they do something, a
white man in this country isinnocent until proven guilty.
If you're a black man in thiscountry, you're guilty.
You have to prove yourself tobe innocent.

(27:35):
You know we got to change thatstandard.
You know we innocent untily'all prove us guilty.
Okay, and they lied.
They said that he was drivingthe car.
They lied, said that the carwas.
You know we innocent till y'allprove us guilty.
Right, okay, and they lied.
They said that he was drivingthe car.
They lied, said that the carwas stolen.
They lied, said that he had agun.

(27:56):
You know, and when you lie incourt, they call it what they
call it the fruit of a poisonoustree.
I mean everything.
The fruit is poison, the fruitof a poisonous tree.
It means everything If thefruit is poison the tree is
poison and the roots is poison.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
It's no good.
No good, you got to throw itout.
You got to tear it down, throwit out.
Right now the thing is Afterthe cow written house.
The two cases that jump out tome is the George Zimmerman case
and the Kyle Rittenhouse case.
They can't tell me nothing.
I'd have no faith in thetraditional system, in the

(28:35):
criminal part of it.
I have no faith in it Even evenlet's even talk about, we can
can even talk about dr cosby, orgo back to oj simpson, in that
case, planting evidence andtampering with the evidence.

(28:57):
You can't tell me nothing, soI'm not gonna get up here and
automatically, off the rip,start pointing and shaking my
finger because the kid was inthe car and this incident
happened and there was gunsinvolved.
I'm not going to do that, I'mgoing to wait.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
All the cases that they're coming up with that are
headlining in the news.
It just shows you how wickedtheir justice system is, how
it's twisted for them andagainst them.
Regardless of what anybodythinks about Sean Combs, what

(29:44):
they're using to convict him,it's not valid.
You know you're saying thathe's promoting prostitution
across state lines.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
They brought back the Mann Act, a hundred-year-old
statute.
Same thing they did to R Kelly,but they brought the Mann Act
to charge this guy because youhaven't said what he done
criminal yet and the man.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
We know what the Mann Act was.
The Mann Act was.
It didn't even make sense whenyou look at it logically.
But for white supremacy, a partof their creed is I'm white and
I'm safe when you look at itlogically.
But for white supremacy, a partof their creed is I'm white,
not cis Right.
So here it is.

(30:33):
They hated Jack Johnson so badbecause he beat him in the ring.
Right, he was marrying theirwomen.
Right At a time when brotherswere being lynched for looking
at white women.
He was marrying them, paradingthem around.
He had money, you know.
He was a rich black man.

(30:55):
He didn't care.
He beat their asses, you know.
And they had some politicianthat wrote this bill.
His last name was Mann.
That's why they called it theMann Act and it provided
prosecution for takingprostitutes across state lines.

(31:22):
They used that to convict JackJohnson and the prostitute that
they convicted they said itwasn't a prostitute, it was his
wife, right?

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Because she was a white woman.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
That's what they used , and I mean it's baffling that
there's so many people can'treally see what the man Act was
and how they're using it inDiddy's case and how they use
the version of it in R Kelly'scase.
Right, are these people?
Are they sexually extreme orsexually what you want to call

(32:01):
deviant?
That's what they are to chargehim with it according to the law
and see what comes out of it.
Don't make up something youknow and say that he was
promoting prostitution and hewas making people do this and he
was making people do that.
These are drunk people, youknow.

(32:22):
I'm quite sure they were.
They was on salary and they,they had the ability to leave
whenever they wanted.
They wasn on salary and they,they, they had the ability to
leave whenever they wanted.
It wasn't locked up, you know,but whatever it is, it just
shows that that's what whitesupremacy is.
They want to be able to doinjustice and have it justified.

(32:43):
You know they want to be ableto shoot us down the street and
say I was scared, you know, andthat's, I wanted to get back
home to my family.
Well, that young man, he wantedto get back.
That young man wanted to getback home to his family.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Yeah, but that don't matter.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
That don't matter.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Because the first thing the bootlegs going to say
is well, if he wanted to gethome, he shouldn't have been in
the car with the rest of them.
That's what the bootlegs goingto say.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
They say that until it happens to them.
Then, when it happens to them,what do they do?
They go running to the NationalAction Network.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
The National Action Network.
We're going down there.
We're going marching.
We're going to be marchingSunday morning.
We're going down there afterchurch.
I'm going to go down there andmarch.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
You know, my man, devon, want to do a show
specifically for that cat man,for that character.
He want to do what he want todo.
I'm in the process of puttingthat together.
But I, for that character, hewant to do what he want to do.
So I got to put.
I'm in the process of puttingthat together, but I'm going to
dig up everything on that greasypiece of dog, that greasy dog
there.
You know something speaking ofhim.
You know he got me.

(34:00):
They got me blocked off of WBLS, you know.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Yeah, they got me blocked.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
On, they calling blocked on they calling, they
got me blocked cause.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
I call up there.
This was during the campaignfor Kamala Harris one Sunday
morning that's the go along, get.
Along go along and get along,gang.
Yeah, I called up there, king.
I called up there one Sunday,me and another brother called up
there cause they was up there.
You know, kamala this, kamalathat, and up there because they
was up there.
You know, come out of this,come out of that man, it's going

(34:30):
to be the first black.
You know this, that, this, this, that, this, that, and me and
his brother called up here andlit them up.
They hurried up and got us all.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
I said yo man why are you rushing me off the phone?
Man, I'm not rushing.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
I got other calls.
I got to get.
I got other calls.
I say, yo, me and this brotherlit them up and they, they done,
blocked, they blocked me.
I can't even call up there.
I try to call up there everySunday morning when I hear him
talking that that foolishness.
I try to call, but what I'mgonna do, what I'm gonna do, I'm
gonna get me a um, I'm gonnaget another, a different number,

(35:06):
and highlight him A track phone, a track phone, right, because,
man, they got me blocked.
I can't even call up there.
And you know, this program is oniHeartRadio and they are also
publicating on iHeartRadio also.
So but you know, yeah, man, butback to it.

(35:27):
So, but you know, yeah, man,but back to it, um, and that
leads into that, leads into this, this thing with um, these,
these officers getting off, in,in, down in in memphis with the,
the murder of tyree nichols.
I wanted to touch on that.
And you know that judge, thatjudge, because I'm saying, man,

(35:52):
how everything is on the video,everything's on the video, and
they, man, I couldn't understandit.
I just don't understand it now.
They still on the hook with thefeds.
But that judge, his name is,what is his cast name.

(36:12):
He's a black dude, but he's aJames Jones, james Jones Jr.
But when you go in you lookinto him man.
He married to a white woman,got white kids.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
You know I was looking at the pictures right.
You know I was looking at thepictures right and, like I said,
you know, this is when you lookat the picture first, I
couldn't find no pictures, but Iput it in there.
You know, Judge James Jones andSchwarz, those pictures would
pop up and I started scrollingand it caught that one picture,

(36:48):
right.
But you know, I don't know ifthat picture was authentic like
that, because you couldn't goany further into it.
You know, I think they scrubbedit, they scrubbed all the
information, but that onepicture, when you look at it,
it's him, it's a white woman andI think it's two white kids,

(37:09):
Two white kids, a girl and a boyI mean.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
when I say ugly, I mean God.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
When you look at the kids, you don't see any type of
melanation in there.
You know, those look like purewhite kids.
That's what.
I said that's what made me thinktwice about the period.
But then you know, he couldhave married a woman that
already had children, right,right, because usually when

(37:36):
there's a black man and a whitewoman, or a white man and a
black woman, the children havesome type of melanation.
It'll be the skin color, it'llbe in the hair, you know
something?
Because that's why people werelooking at the offspring

(37:56):
so-called offspring of MichaelJackson.
So then, how is it these kidsare just purely white, when we
know what the Jackson familylooked like?
They had afros before thesurgery, the big nose and all
that.
These were melanated people,and his children would have,
would have, would have, wouldhave, um inherited that

(38:18):
melanation because the seedcomes from the father, that's
right, that's right, but anyway,I don't want to get too far for
that, but that case, what hedid, that judge was he they
wanted to take it out of?
uh, I think it's hamilton they.
They took it.

(38:38):
They took it to another county.
They took it to another countywith what they don't know what
he didn't allow to take, take itto another county.
What he did allowed him to dowas pick a jury outside of the
county.
And the county that they pickedit from was called.
Hamilton County.
It was 73% white, 20% black,but the county where it happened

(39:03):
was Shelby County right, whichis 52% black.
You see, and even though it wasall black officers that did, it
being the fact that they werein the blue, you know they
represented white supremacy andthey knew that these people were
going to let them go.
You know it's incredible man.

(39:27):
You know, apparently, the onlyblack man that can get a fair
trial is a black cop that killsa black man.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
You know, well, it's crazy to say I want to speak to
that for a second, a quicksecond.
I want to speak to that because, let's be clear, family and I'm
we talking to the family?
Let's be clear when we saywhite supremacy, that is not, uh

(39:58):
, it doesn't necessarily have tobe a person, white or a white
person supremacy.
White supremacy is a behaviorthat can be carried by just
about anybody.
Um it it say, behavior that youwill find in some melanated

(40:19):
people, just like I did theprogram last week about the, the
bootlicks in the coons.
These are people that promoteand support white supremacy.
They uphold it.

Speaker 4 (40:35):
And it can happen.
They can be aware of it andthey may even be unaware.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Right now, at least two of those cops that got off,
two of those cops even thoughthey're black, they were tethers
, they were from foreignbackgrounds At least two of them
.
And you, though they're black,they were tethers, they were
from foreign backgrounds Atleast two of them.
And you could look at them andtell Now, we already know what
the situation is with them.
Real quick, real quick.

(41:00):
Let's sidetrack for a minuteand we'll come back to the
topics.
This thing have you beenkeeping abreast of this thing
with the 12-foot statue there inTimes Square about this
so-called woman?
Yeah, did you see that thing,man?

Speaker 4 (41:18):
I saw it?
Yeah, I saw it.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Now the good part.
The good part because they youknow people was up there.
Oh yeah, it's a strong blackwoman, da-da-da-da-da.
First of all, that is not arepresentation that I felt it
wasn't proper representation ofour women.
Now they love to talk aboutthis gender war.

(41:46):
We got going on against blackwomen and black men at each
other.
For this, that and the third,let me tell you something I'm
not accepting nothing like that.
That is not representative.
First of all, there's nothingwrong.
I'm not saying that.
There's women that may look alittle homely.
They might be overweight, youknow.

(42:08):
You know the woman might'vebeen going to work or whatever
like that, because she had on at-shirt, she had on looked like
a, maybe a pair of jeans andsome boots, and they weren't
laced up and it it, it, justeverything about it just seemed
to me like it is.
It's an experiment.

(42:29):
Now they're going to take itdown come June 17th, for
Juneteenth they're going to takeit down.
So it doesn't mean anything tous.
But now here's the thing,because I was upset at first and
then, when I dug into it more,when I dug into it more, I found
out that the creator of thisthing was a British Jamaican.

(42:49):
So, right then, and there Iposted, because I was on a
thread with some folks and Iposted okay, well, y'all hold
that then, because that's notrepresentation of a black
American woman.
We got some fine sisters outhere, fine, do some of my women

(43:10):
got some problems?
Yes, same as the men, we havesome problems in the culture and
in our community.
But you could have pickedsomething better if you were
going to say this is whatrepresentation is.
We got some fine sisters outhere that don't wear a whole lot
of makeup and wigs all the time.

(43:31):
Who ain't big and fat with abig back.

Speaker 4 (43:37):
You know what I think about that?
Go ahead, nothing at all.
That thing didn't resonate morethan 10 seconds of my thought.
You know why?
Because as soon as I saw it, itwas nothing more symbolism.
Regardless of who it was, it'sstill symbolism.

(43:58):
And this is the thing that theytry to do to appease us, to try
to act like they're doingsomething for us.
Symbolism okay, you put a bigbronze statue up, so what?
What does that mean?
They got a big statue of a bullon Wall Street.
What does that mean?
I only seen one statue that Ireally like in New York, and

(44:19):
that was the one that got 125thand 7th Avenue, adam Clayton
Powell, in front of the StateBuilding.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's a nice statue there, youknow, because the brother
looking up and he's moving, he'smoving.
You know what I'm saying.
I like that statue there, youknow.

(44:39):
But you know stuff they do attimes Times Square is like a
circus, you know.
Whatever they do down there,it's just clown stuff.
That's why I don't even paywhen they say they put a statue
of a black woman.
I see people post the stuff,clowning, laughing, some people
speaking in support of us.
It's just another distraction.

(45:01):
When they bring up adistraction, something like that
, they're slipping somethingelse in.
They put that there in order todistract your attention.
We'll find out sooner or laterexactly what it is.
It's crazy.
Maybe they put that in there todistract from the fact that
they're going to put cameras inthe tunnels and the bridges

(45:26):
Speed cameras.
You heard about that, right yeahyeah, I heard about it.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
I heard about it.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
They're going to put speed cameras in the tunnels and
the bridges.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
That's crazy.
Well, trump trying to.
He trying to knock all thatdown.
He's trying to knock all thatdown.
Right now.
It's on.
His little thing is on a hiatuswith that because he had made
an order for them to take themuh, them toes down, them toe
lights down.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Take them down they made $15 million, $15 million In
, I think, the first month orsomething like that.
I know it said six months fromtime to start.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
They're supposed to have like yeah, so they might
have to leave them up there andif they get money like that,
they got justification forleaving them up there.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
but they're gonna lose, though, and the reason I
say they're going to lose isbecause they're banking on the
people that are coming in.
They're going to leave theircars home and take the train and
go into midtown.
They're going to lose becausethose stores are going to lose
business.
It says New York City isexpected to lose 400,000

(46:46):
tourists this year because of,you know, political climate and
what's going on, and those400,000 tourists is going to
damage the restaurant business,because when people come to town
, you know they stay in a hotel,and what do they do?
They go out to eat, they go outto eat lunch, they go out to
eat breakfast.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
They go out to eat dinner, you know, before they
see a play or whatever they gobuy to eat.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
They go out to eat lunch.
They go out to eat breakfast.
They go out to eat dinner.
You know, before they get toyour play or whatever, you know,
buy a snack.
You know it ain't like if theygo into a Airbnb or something.
You know where they got akitchen.
They can buy some food.
They want to go out to therestaurant.
That's the reason they'recoming to New York Nightlife
Restaurants and if they're notcoming, restaurants lose
business.

(47:28):
That's going to destroy the taxbase, just like what they did
with COVID.
They shut everything down.
The companies learned that theycould get more productivity by
letting people work from homethan coming to the office.
So they got rid of them leases.
They got all them empty officebuildings.
Now they want to talk aboutconverting them into houses.

(47:53):
They do one thing to raise somemoney, but in the long run they
lose.
And what do they do?
They come after the workingclass people and add some kind
of sneak tax.
That's all it is.
Putting cameras on the bridgesof the tunnel it's another sneak

(48:14):
tax.
You're going to put a camera inthe tunnel, make the speed 25,
and they give you a ticket at 36.
36, 35.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
I haven't been to Manhattan in my car since these
tolls went up.
I haven't been to Manhattan inmy car since these tolls went up
.
I haven't been to Manhattan anddon't plan on going yeah, I
went.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
I went yesterday right for the first time.
Right because I was going outto Philly to see my grandkids so
I wanted to get their mothersome flowers.
So I went downtown to you knowwhere they sell the flowers at.

(48:57):
That was the only time I'vebeen downtown since they started
the Best Friends.
Right, you go to a mall and geteverything.

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That's right.

Speaker 4 (49:06):
That's right.

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And yeah, it became.
You know all this stuff, allthis stuff.
Now, the other story that Iwant to touch is this thing with

(50:39):
this woman up there inMinnesota.
I believe it was.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
What do they call that township up there in
Minnesota with a white womancoached a little?

Speaker 3 (50:50):
boy in the park there .
Rochester, rochester, rochester, minnesota.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Yeah, rochester, minnesota.
What was that?
I forgot her name.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
That was another big.
Thing.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Hendrick something.
Yeah, it is this woman.
She cussed out a five-year-oldautistic child for looking in
her son's diaper bag orsomething and called him a
nigger.
And somebody was there to countand they called him.

(51:28):
His name was Shiloh.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
Hendricks.
Shiloh Hendricks.
I was just looking at it.
I was in the iPad looking at it, but you called it Shiloh
Hendricks.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Yeah, yeah go ahead.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
That kid was a I think it was an African.
The parents were from somecountry in Africa or something
like that.
Because I was saying to myself,had that been now, where were
the parents at when this wentdown, and whether or not they
were foundational people?
Because let me tell you thatwoman would have got hands and

(52:07):
feet put on him More than likelyif it was one of ours.
Not saying that that's an excusefor it, because the thought and
the message behind it was stillthere, even though the child

(52:30):
may not have been a foundationallineage.
Nonetheless, you don't do thatto no child.
Why, if the child went in thebag or whatever, why you just
didn't take the bag away fromhim or move it away from him?
Don't, that's not nice.
Don't do that, I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
Yeah, exactly, you teach them and you tell the mom
you know, you know what is that,but you know our lessons.
Tell us that you cannot reformthe devil.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Can't reform the devil, that's right.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
Can't reform him devil.
But when you say, when thelessons say you cannot reform
him devil, when we think aboutthe male devil, but that's the
knowledge, but the understandingthat we get, that you can't
reform him or her double,neither one of them.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
It's both sides, and then that, and then Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
And then you know, see, somebody got to her and
told her how to play the givegold fund game or whatever you
know, get gold fund, whateverthey call it gold fund.
And she done got over $700,000.
Right, by claiming that she'safraid because you know people,

(53:48):
the doctor's name and doctor'saddress, and a kid can't go back
to school, she needs to move soher two children can be safe.
But it's not documented?

Speaker 3 (53:59):
It's not documented, though.
See, there's a sister out therein the online streets, in the
internet streets, that's tryingto shut that down.
Now, what's going to happen isthey?
They done?
They done this because they,because of the Camillo Anthony
situation out there in Texas,frisco, texas they are upset

(54:22):
about the money that was raisedbehind that fund that gives
single, and that's what that issupposed to be like a clap back,
because there was money raisedfor this kid and the thing about
it is not so much what she saidin the form of money see, her

(54:49):
top donations were between$1,234 and $10,000.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
You know what I'm saying.
And it was all anonymous givers, because I went and looked at
the site, you know, and 30% ofthe people that left they left a
racist comment, you know.
And so what they did?

(55:15):
They disabled the ability toleave a comment, right, but the
campaign is still acceptingdonations, that's right.
Well, now what they're doing isthey use the name and the alias
field and that's where they puttheir vitriol at.

(55:37):
You know that's where they beputting them.
You know all this nonsense.
And the other thing they didare they using white supremacist
numerical codes the 14 and the88.
In white supremacy, thosenumbers mean something because
they have 693 donations that was$14 and 99 donations that was

(56:02):
$88, then they had 26 anddonations that use various
combinations of the number 1488.
You know, the whitesupremacists are something else,
man.
So they took that and used itas a fundraiser.

(56:24):
Now she gonna wind up if shegets like.
I know.
I heard about some sisterthat's supposed to be trying to
shut it down because it's a scam.
You know it's a scam.
You know it's a scam, but theproblem is, like you said, you
got white supremacy.
That's a behavior I've seenBlack folks online talking about

(56:45):
.
Oh he's.
All she said was a word.
You know why are theythreatening her?

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Officer Tatum.
Officer Tatum, he's one of them.
Officer Tatum, you know he's anut, he's a straight nut.
But see, here's what'shappening.
Here's what's happening.
And I heard Phil Scott talk onthis.
I heard Phil Scott talk on thisKing, and here's what's
happening.
They are coming to a pointwhere, see, they're desperate

(57:14):
now.
So the racism and hate iscoming out more and more Now
that Trump is back in office.
They're more emboldened now andsee, they see the power
slipping away because they seethe moves we're making and
they're starting to see thepower slip away, the moves we're
making and they starting to seethe power slip away.
So they knock these bootlicksand these coons that love to

(57:38):
talk their points.
They're not going to need them,no more.
They already.
It was another dude that got hiswake up call, jason Whitlock
got his and it's starting tocome around that they're
starting to tell them.
I'm waiting for them to get atOfficer Tatum.

(57:59):
I'm waiting for them to get athim because he's one of the
biggest ones, him and LarryElder, jesse Lee Peterson nobody
takes Jesse.
I think Jesse Lee is mildlyretarded.
He's mildly retarded, jesse Lee.
I think Jesse Lee is mildlyretarded, he's mildly retarded.
There's a disability with him.
So you have to kind of have alittle empathy with him because,

(58:24):
jesse Lee, I believe he'smildly retarded the way he talks
.
And what about the blacks?
I love all, I love white papers, I love white papers, but the
blacks are always begging.
He's a real clown.

(58:45):
There's some kind of challengewith him mentally.
So you have to excuse me.
He's not a stupid man.
I'm not saying that he'shustling All of he's hustling.
Now, he's not a stupid man.
I'm not saying that he'shustling all of them are
hustling, because don't I canalmost a dollar to a donut.
I can almost guarantee you mostof them coons and bootlicks

(59:05):
that's on them youtube streetsand on his internet and using
all these white talking points,even down to that, jason
Whitlock Jason Whitlock is a isa big fat hurt man.
Some some fine sister heprobably tried to get at
probably turned him down.
He probably be getting turneddown all his life Cause he's a
big, droopy face fat nastylooking dude, and the only way

(59:33):
you're going to get a woman isyour pockets.
got to be deep man.
You got to spend some dough.
So he has a natural.
That's why.
But see, he already went at him.
Nick Fuentes done went at himand they starting to call these
bootlicks out.
I can't wait for somebody toget at bootlicks out.

(59:53):
I can't wait for somebody toget at Vince Ellison, I can't
wait.
And that April Chapman chick,cause she man, I, you know, when
I first started listening toher she was yeah.
I said okay, sister, got alittle something with her, you
know.
Then, man, she started thumpingon that bible and everything is

(01:00:16):
against black folks, everythingagainst the black church.
Now, I'm not a Christian, I'mnot a Christian at all.
In fact I don't.
I wish black people would getaway from religion, but we know
that's not a possibility.
Where we at right now, in theolder generations, they just
that's what they are.
Where we at right now, in theolder generations, they just
that's what they are.
But I don't, I'm not going toget up here and dog the church.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
I'm not going to do that.
The church played an importantrole.
It was a way for people to dealwith a bad situation that they
was in at the time.
But as you go on, you learn andyou perfect yourself.

(01:01:03):
You move higher.
When you look at religionitself, we know that
Christianity came out of Judaism, which came out of ancient
Kemet.
All those old stories that theywere using, those were stories
that were old.
It came out of ancient Kemet,that's right.
The whole trinity.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Mesopotamia and the Nile Valley.
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:26):
Christianity was supposed to be a perfection of
Judaism and Islam was supposedto be a perfection of Judaism
and Islam was supposed to be aperfection of Christianity.
But when Islam had the killswitch in there, they said this
is the seal of the prophecyThere'll be no more that comes
after Muhammad.
But when you know andunderstand the scripture, you

(01:01:48):
know that each religion wouldlead you to a spiritual
component.
In Judaism, it was the Kabbalah, the Kabbalah spiritual
component.
In Judaism, it was the Kabbalah, the Kabbalah right, the
Gnostics.
It was the Gnostics.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
Gnostics right.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
Exactly.
In Islam it's the Sufis.
Sufism, yes, and also the but85% of the people that study the
religion.
They get stuck on the practices.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
The exoteric, the exoteric.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
The exoteric, what to eat and what to wear and how to
pray and things like that.
But you have to get into thespiritual concepts so that you
understand your higher self.
Bobby Hemming, be able to speakand understand.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Bobby Hemming.
Bobby Hemet, understand thebest part, the esoteric.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
It's like you look at a movie like Sinners and you
begin to decode and understandwhat was going on.
It's amazing that now so manypeople have different analysis
of what he was trying to say inthe film, and that's why I was
successful, because he put thatMojarra spirit in there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
That's a great segue.
That's a great segue and we'regoing to roll out.
We're going to talk about thatmovie, because the last time I
spoke to you you hadn't seen ityet, because then I called you.
I said I wanted to get you uphere to see you know, because I
did my review on it.
But now that you here, you doneseen it, let's great.
Segue, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 4 (01:03:24):
Come with me.
That's right, because the factthat I mean I see you mentioned
Bobby Hemet a while ago rightNow, when I started listening to
them, one of the things that itwasn't so much of what they
were saying as much as how didthey get to that understanding

(01:03:48):
based on the information thatthey got?
You know, that's what baffledme how they could look at a
movie.
I could look at the same movie.
All I see is entertainment andthey see that string theory, how
it goes through, and they cantrace it all the way back to
history like a slingshot.
You pull it all the way backand then bring it back to the
front.

(01:04:10):
But with Sinners, I think it wasa very, I think it was an
amazing movie, you know, fromthe beginning, all the way to
the end.
You know, because there was alot of symbolism that was in
that movie, just the storyitself of of two brothers.
That's something that come outof Egyptian two brothers.

(01:04:34):
That's something that come outof Egyptian mythology.
It was the two brothers, whatthey call the divine twins, the
Iri Bejis, which is mythology inthe Yoruba pantheon.
They were believed to be.
They were believed to be the,some believed to be the son of

(01:04:59):
Legua, who was the deity of Rose, and Doa and Ogum, who was the
warrior deity, and others.
They were the sons of Shangoand Yeminyak, you know.
So that brother went in on thatmovie man and he even said that
he titled it after the EerieBee Gees twins.

(01:05:22):
That's right and it was deep man.
You know the brother that wasplaying the guitar, the musician
and a lot of these things.
Before I even started, lookingat the different analysis, I was
able to tie it in.
I submitted it.
It wasn't Robert Johnson, theone that said he was traveling

(01:05:42):
and he went to the crossroad andsold his soul to the devil so
that he would have a successfulcareer.
You know, and it was all there.
And especially when it comesdown to um the juke joint, oh,

(01:06:07):
it depends on where your levelof knowledge was you.
You know, some people look andsee the vampire as being the
devil himself.
You know, others look at thevampire as being the Democratic
Party.
So they try to get in and getdown and try to get you to go

(01:06:28):
along with it.
All lives matter.
They try to.
All Lives Matter.
Look, look, come on out here.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
That's the first thing I thought, because now
here it is.
You look at the movie.
When they came to the door, themthree vampires came to the door
and they was we just wanted tocome in and play a little music
and get down with you and theystarted singing that old Irish
stuff.
Then you go to the YouTubestreets.
You see who you see doing theboots on the ground dance Kamala

(01:06:56):
Harris and Michelle Obama.
I said, man, what is this man?
That's the first when I sawthem vampires that was the first
thing I thought of was theDemocrat Party.

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
But then they were going to go back to when the
Natives, even though they hadthe Red Indians, was the
Democrat Party.
But then it was going to goback to when the when the
Natives, even though they hadthe Red Indians that they were
using as a representation of theNative Americans, the Choctaw
yeah, they was chasing thevampire, that's right.
And when they ran in the houseand they let the dude in the

(01:07:31):
house and he was in the backhiding and they came out and
they came in the house and theylet the dude in the house and he
was in the back hiding and theycame in the door and said you
didn't let anybody in the house.
He said no, no, no, we're okay.
No, we didn't let nobody in,all right, because he knew that
was it, you know.
Yep, when you let them in,that's it and that's the same
Once you let them in Right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
That's the same way we got to be with this
gatekeeping the culture andgatekeeping our community.
We got to get away fromeverybody, even the ones that's
from our lineage.
We got to get rid of them.

Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
That's right.
White supremacy is a behavior.
It's a behavior and sometimesthey're aware of it and
sometimes they're unaware of it,and sometimes they're unaware.
You can be agents, unaware,right in your midst, poisoned,
and they don't even know whatthey're doing.
But we have to be stronger.
We have to be wise enough tosee through that and know and

(01:08:26):
understand who it is that we'redealing with.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
I got people in my own family that represent white
supremacy and they don't evenknow it.
If you tell them, they willcurse you out.
Are you crazy?
But what you do, what you doand what you stand for,
represents white supremacy,because you're carrying the
tenets.

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
You're carrying the tenets and the creed of it but
you know, sooner or later that'swhat time is the age of
Aquarius everything is going tobe revealed and they see it.
They're going to see everything.
I mean, you look at.

(01:09:13):
That's why I said when they,when they talk about, oh, they
put a big statue of a blackwoman in Times Square.
Okay, so they've been had astatue of a black woman in the
harbor for the last what 200years, right?

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Statue of Liberty.
That's right, that's a blackwoman.
They painted it green.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
Statue of Liberty, that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
That's a black moment .

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
They painted it green .

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
Yeah, well, I think it was bronze and then it
started, you know, turning.
That copper started turning andthen they just decided to paint
it.
But now you know it can't bereversed now.
So every once in a while theygo and I guess, put a coat every

(01:09:52):
few years or whatever they goput.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
Oh, they painted it.
Oh, I thought it was just greenfrom the oxidation.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
It did turn green from the oxidation, but to keep
it like that, I think they hitit with some paint every now and
then.
You know what I mean.
But yes, it was originally abronze representing black,
supposedly representing blackwomen.

Speaker 4 (01:10:14):
They put a big picture of a big black woman,
sassy, with a hand on her hip.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
Yeah, a big back, a big strapped back.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
Look how they do it on the TV.
They always had big women youknow that was supposed to be the
representation.
When you go back to the TV showAmos and Andy Right, amos and
Andyos and Andy, his wife whatwas his wife's name?
Sapphire?
And Sapphire was a derogatoryterm that was used for black

(01:10:44):
women for being angry, andthat's how she was in Amos and
Andy Sapphire.
But, man, we done been up herefor a while.
You know she was a sapphireRight.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
But man, we done been up here for a while and
anything else.
You got on the, on the, on themind.
You want to get off real quick.

Speaker 4 (01:11:03):
Yeah, a couple of things.
I heard people talking abouthow that from that movie Center
Center the river dance, and thatriver dance ain't come from
Ireland.
That goes all the way back tothe Ivory Coast.
They got a.
It's an African tribe.
I think they call it Za'uli orsomething like that.

(01:11:25):
You can go on YouTube and seethem doing a tribe.
They doing a dance where theymove their leg real fast and the
top of the body ain't moving.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
They got another one where they got they got the
straw and when they dancing itlook like it's a broom dancing
well, I'm gonna tell everybodyright now, cause I know exactly
what you talking about and TrueSavior True Savior did a

(01:11:56):
broadcast on that.
So everybody go to YouTube, goto Truth Savior, and he broke it
down.
You know how he does.
He breaks it down.
That brother's a historian whenit comes to music and culture.
Like that, Truth Savior brokeit down.
Go to his YouTube channeleverybody.
That is Truth Savior and hewent all the way.

(01:12:19):
He goes that brother.
I don't know where he gets thatinformation from, but he digs
up the dry bones and brings youthere Full circle.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
And the other thing is people, a lot of us, don't
really understand the differencebetween voodoo and hoodoo, you
know, and it's amazing becausepeople think that voodoo is just
like a negative thing, whenvoodoo is actually.
It's an actual religion withits own rich leaders.

(01:12:54):
It's got its own teachers,representatives, they got
services, they got two distinctbranches, you know, and it was
something that originated in theancient kingdom of Dahomey,
which is now what Present dayNigeria, benin and Togo, you
know.
And the word itself derivesfrom the foreign word for God or

(01:13:18):
spirit, whereas hoodoo issomething else that's the result
of ethnic genesis, right?
So hoodoo, or root word, youknow that's an FBA practice that
was popularized during shadowslavery.
You know, ited as a set ofspiritual observances,
traditions and beliefs,including magical and other

(01:13:41):
ritual practices that encouragedthe practitioners to connect
with their ancestors by usingherbs, roots, candles, oils,
dolls and other elements.
But of course, since they don'tunderstand, when people don't
understand your culture, theyfear it, and once they fear it,

(01:14:03):
they try to destroy it.
But the whole American MetalAssociation was designed because
they wanted to take the moneyout of the brothers and sisters
that were conjurers and who doroot workers.
They could go out to the gardenand pick herbs and make a brew

(01:14:24):
and heal people when they weresick and they had all kind of
potences and things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
My grandmother did it .
My grandmother did it.
My grandmother did it.
My grandmother did it.
My grandmother did it.
She was a hoot Because we arevery agrarian people You're
talking about the ethnogenesispart of it Very agrarian.
And when you go back in theSouth somebody could have an

(01:14:51):
ankle sprain or a wrist sprainor something from working out in
the fields or whatever, andthey would go to a part of town
where they call this, they callit that red clay.
You see it in some parts of thesouth, that red dirt, that red
clay, and they put that thing onyou man and whatever was sprang

(01:15:14):
or hurt.
In a day or two that'd be gone.
Yeah, you understand.
And the same thing with themroots and stuff.
Now I heard my grandmother andthem say that boy acting a fool,
that gal and her mama done, puta root on that boy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
He out here acting a fool.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Done put a mojo on him.

Speaker 4 (01:15:35):
Done put a root on that boy.
He out here acting a fool.
I done put a mojo on him.
I done put a mojo on him.
Well, richard Pryor had a jokeone time.
He was talking about his manthe voodoo lady, the monkey feet
.
Yeah yeah, his man the voodoolady.
He said, man, what's wrong?
He said I don't know, man, I'min love with a chick.
I can't stand.
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
My family gonna get mad at me.
My family gonna get mad at me.
See, now, on my father's side,them people came from the, from
the Gullah Geechee culture.
They came from that.
My great, great, great greatGrandfather was a Gullah Geechee
.
Let me tell you something, manPeace to born Asian y'all.

(01:16:17):
Let me tell you something myniece, right, she had a
boyfriend you talking about aplum fool, and I used to say,
man, I used to ask him.
I said are you out of your mind?
Then I found out what she wasdoing to this cat.
Right, she was putting it onhim, she was putting them roots

(01:16:42):
on him.
And she told me what she wasdoing.
I said, oh, I got man, look, Iain't good man, I told.
I said you know you dead wrongfor that.
This dude, man, she would Kingwhat I tell you, man, this dude
was a damn fool and I ain't seenher do it, not just once, I

(01:17:03):
seen her do it twice to twodudes.
One dude, she had a baby withthe dude, this dude.
She had this dude so twisted.
She had this dude twisted sobad.
One night she had him so messedup.
Now he was coming to see her,but he, you know how you know
where the Grand Central whenyou're supposed to get off that

(01:17:24):
last exit before you get on thebridge.
Yeah, and that leads you intoHoyt Avenue over there in Queens
.
Hoyt Avenue over there inQueens.
Hoyt Avenue, 36th Street 31stStreet and Astoria Boulevard.
There this cat was comingbecause he was staying over
there in left.
So he was coming over therewith my sister, craig, back to

(01:17:48):
see my niece right this dudemine was.
So she had him so twisted.
This dude went on the bridgeand he got to the other side,
called up and said yo.

Speaker 1 (01:18:06):
I messed up when you at.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
He had to get off at 125th because he had to, you
know, come back took the trambro right that last exit you're
supposed to get off there.
That last exit, 31st streetexit.
Before you go on to this foolman, she had to.

(01:18:37):
Right and she was putting thatwork on him.
Now I don't know who, because Idon't think my sister was
messing with that, because bornin, she came up in the 5% Nation
.
But I don't know where thatgirl, that child, learned that

(01:18:57):
from.
It might have been because someof my aunts and them was into
that.
They were into them bidders andall that shit.
You know, yeah, but the otherdude, the other boyfriend cat
named Jermaine, she man, she hadthis dude so messed up and she
told me what she was doing.
I said I had to get away fromher.
I said, nah, satan, get behindme, because she had this dude

(01:19:23):
twisted man.
I had to ask her.
I said yo, man, Are you out ofyour mind?
That's my niece and all thatman.

Speaker 4 (01:19:33):
But you don't let no woman.
Do you like that, bro Put?

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
a root on it, man.
That's what them elders used tosay, that boy acting a fool.

Speaker 1 (01:19:43):
That gal and her mama done put a root on that boy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
That's what they would say See, because
especially them older ones, theyknew, they knew.
I done seen my grandmother goout in them fields and in the
woods and stuff and dig up rootsand come back and boil up a
brew.
I don't know what she was doing.
And put it in them mason jarsand put them in them bottles and

(01:20:08):
stuff and have them sittingaround.
I seen it.
I ain't telling you something.
My family I'm not telling y'allsomething that I heard from
other I seen this in my family,didn't know what I was looking
at at the time, but they wasdoing that stuff, man.
But see, the church got mad atthat.

(01:20:31):
The Christians got mad at thatmovie because of the hoodoo
aspect of it.
See, now we got the hoodoo, theconjurers and all of that stuff
.
They, they separate things butthey always very uh associated
with each other, even thoughthey're different uh things the

(01:20:52):
conjurersurers and the stuff andthe root work.
They're different.
They own their own separateentities but they usually are
crossed Right.
You understand Now that womanin the movie, one of the twins'
baby mother, she was the Annie.
They called her Miss Annie.
She was the hoodoo woman.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
Miss Annie, she was the hoodoo woman yeah, she was
the one that said why you askingwhy you keep asking us to
invite you in.
Y'all don't never do that,y'all just bum, rush the spot
yeah, yo, big ass, you can justcome in here.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
And now remember in that scene where the vampire,
the remick dude, had the Sammykid in the water.
Now there was a lot ofsymbolism in that, because he
dunked him in the water abouttwice, so that was like the
baptism and he started sayingthe Lord's Prayer.
The Sammy kid started sayingthe Lord's Prayer and the

(01:21:51):
vampire looked at him like thatain't going to help you because
he started chanting it with him.
He was like what that's going todo?
And a lot of the Christian, thechurch people, got mad at that
because they felt it'sundermining your faith your
faith was that weak that a moviecould you had a lot of.

(01:22:13):
You had some Christian folksthat were telling people not to
go see it, but that didn't do nogood because the movie is the
highest grossing movie right now.
I've seen it twice in thetheaters and I've seen it once
at my man's house, at mygrandson's father's house, and
he was one of those folks.
He just holds a vampire movie.
Some people, they just don'thave that insight, like they

(01:22:37):
don't.
That kind of thing don't occurto them.
But see, we do this work, so weknow what we're looking for.
Yeah, you know you got anythingelse.
King on the brain.

Speaker 4 (01:22:53):
Only thing I can say one thing about that movie
Lesson to Learn best way todefeat an alien culture is to
pass to your own.
Come on, come on, come on, comeon, because we got everything
within our culture that we needto survive Right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
This is why, like I said in the top of the hour,
Come on, because we goteverything within our culture
that we need to survive Right.
This is why, like I said in thetop of the hour, they don't
want this thing to catch on withwhat that father did.
They don't want that to catchon because they know, see,
everything is coming full circlebecause we've withdrawn from
the process, from the politicalprocess.
We have started to withdraw.

Speaker 4 (01:23:33):
That's a very you see what's going on over on the
continent, right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Right, and you see, oh, man, man, I love that I love
that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
He kicked them out of there.
I love it, but you know that'sthe same thing that Idi Amin did
.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
Oh, they're going to knock him off.

Speaker 4 (01:23:55):
It was the Indians.
He kicked all the Indians.
A lot of Indians came to Uganda.
He took their businesses andkicked them out of there.
Right, the Ugandans forAfricans, black Africans, he
gratified it Right.

(01:24:16):
And then they come out with themedia and destroy his character
.
Talk about he was eating peopleand killed his wife and sewed
her arms on you know, legs onbackwards.
Kind of stupid, not knowingthis man was Muslim the whole

(01:24:38):
time.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
Right, right.
But, like I say, they seewhat's happening, they see we've
withdrawn from the politicalprocess.
We've started that.
That has begun to materializeand we definitely need that to
withdraw from the politicalprocess where we can navigate

(01:25:01):
our own way.
And they see the things we'renot doing.
We ain't out here marching, weain't doing no more marching.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
Did you get your real idea?

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
No, no, no, I didn't get that yet.
I got it.
I got to get it.
I was going to do it last week.
I didn't get a chance to do it,but I'm probably going to this
brother was telling me.

Speaker 4 (01:25:24):
This brother was telling me.
He said we're going to get yourreal ID.
That's the time Register andyou get that democratic yeah
well, I'm already independent.

Speaker 3 (01:25:38):
I'm already registered independent, yeah, so
I ain't got no problem withthat.

Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
I'm registered, couch , I'm registered.
I'm registered as a democratall my life.
I don't just vote based on aparty.
I've been registered as aDemocrat all my life.
I don't just vote based on aparty affiliation Right?
You know what I'm saying.
I got to vote on what's bestfor the court of my

(01:26:05):
understanding, you know Right.
So I ain't going to be.
We ain't got nobody to vote for, no more.
We really don't, we really donthey got eric adams going up
against cuomo cuomo yeah, whatis that?
but that's all I had to say.
Best way to deal with themovercome the nonsense that comes

(01:26:31):
from any culture.
Master your own, that's right.
I don't care what they put upwith, you know.
But we know we see the blackwoman every day and we know
there's no woman in the worldthat's going to put any kind of
sex.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
You know, I had to get on my lady the last week or
whatever, because she wastalking and she's starting to
see a little gray coming on heredges.
I said, if you don't shut up,man listen man, that's stupid.
Look, you seen my lady before.
You seen my woman before.
Mm-hmm man, listen, the womenbe looking at my woman, like you

(01:27:14):
know.
Any way she goes they be like,especially them foreigners.
She be saying what the hell arethey looking at?

Speaker 4 (01:27:24):
You know because she's very shy.

Speaker 3 (01:27:27):
You know she's shy when it comes to that.
She don't understand why.
I mean like man, she don't seeit, but man, man, you, she don't
see it, but man, you've seenher.
So you already know.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
A lot of times we don't recognize the difference
between jealousy and envy.
Jealousy is when you havesomething and you're afraid that
the other person may think ofyou, so you're jealous of losing
something that you already have, whereas envy is you want

(01:27:59):
something that belongs tosomebody else Right, right, or
you want to be like somebodyelse.
You want to be somebody else.
So when they look at us, envy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
Dumb foreign women because you know, over here in
Brooklyn this is all mostlyCaribbean over here and anywhere
we time we out, the women belooking at her like what the
hell are they looking at?
There's some fine Caribbeanwomen, fine, fine, but man, when
they see her they be like youknow.

(01:28:31):
So, but anyway, man, let's wegonna get ready to get up out of
here and I'm going to tell thefamily, like I said, go check
out True Savior.
Go check out True Savior on hischannel on YouTube and he's
going to break down the wholetap dancing thing Like the

(01:28:52):
brother King brought up andrespect life.
Go ahead, king.

Speaker 4 (01:29:00):
Respect life, justice , cherish freedom and treasure
the peace.
Peace, my brother, peace, peace.
You've got a real type of thinggoing down, getting down.
There's a whole lot of rhythmgoing round.

(01:29:38):
You've got a real type of thinggoing down, getting down,
there's a whole lot of rhythmgoing round.
We want the bump.
Give up the bump.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
We need the bump.
Yeah about the bump.
We need the bump.
We gotta have the bump.
We want the bump.
Yeah about the bump.
We need the bump.
We gotta have the bump.
Da-da-da-da-da,Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.

(01:30:25):
Wow, You've got a real type ofthing going down down.
There's a whole other rhythmgoing round.
You've got a real type of thinggoing down.
We'll see you next time.
We need the bump, we gotta havethe bump.
We want the bump.

(01:30:45):
Give up the bump.
We need the bump, we gotta havethe bump.
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