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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He don't even know my name, and tell him I have a
warrant.
What did he do?
That's what.
I'm saying For what For what?
You're not from Louisiana.
For what For what?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I don't even live in.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Louisiana.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
So how can I?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
have a.
You don't know my name, so howcan you tell him I have
Speaker 3 (00:14):
a warrant in Louisiana.
Sir, sir Stop, I got a Calvarycoming.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I already got you.
No, you don't even know my name?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Why?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
would I trust you?
I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
He don't even live in Louisiana.
How?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
can you tell?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
me.
I have something and you don'tknow my name.
You just put him in front of myhouse.
Could you shake it like youscared of something.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Okay, he don't live in Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I don't live in Louisiana.
How the hell would I ever mournin Louisiana?
Quentin, you already said yourname was that.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
My name is not Quentin.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Sorry, his name is not Quentin,my name is not Quentin.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Then let's see the ID and we'll be done.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Okay, hold on, hold on, no, no, no no, his name is
not Quentin Quentin who juststopped in front of my fucking
house.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
What's my name, man, fuck that.
You psyching like you scared.
I'm not going to let you putit's up.
What's my name?
Please stop, stop, Please stop,stop, stop.
My name is not, no fucking.
Quentin.
You don't even know my name.
Okay, wait, walk with me.
No, walk with me.
(01:43):
He's not going nowhere.
He's not going nowhere.
I need your supervisor.
Let me see your stripes.
I need somebody to turn the car.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
No give me to your car, Sir sir.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
You in my yard, on my property.
Fuck that.
You stop.
Who are you looking for?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
His name is not Quentin.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Let me see right here .
You think I'm from New Yorkbecause I got dreads or
something.
No, you just pulled up in frontof my fucking house and told me
I got a boy in.
Louisiana.
So what?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
That's my fucking dog , that's our dog.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
That's our dog.
Go in the house, sir.
That's our dog.
Why don't you touch me?
Why you shaking?
You need to step back and calmdown.
No, fuck that, sir.
His name is not Quinn, that'sour dog, you just told me three
different names.
You pulling up on some bullshittalking about I got a stolen
dog.
My dog is chipped.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I got a chip in my dog.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I have a dog since it was born.
Okay, let me see the ID, andthen you talking about some shit
.
My name is.
My name is not, no fucking quiz.
I'm not telling you my name isnot.
(02:59):
That's our dog.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
God.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Sorry, who are you looking for?
Calm down, calm down, calm down, calm down, please, calm down.
Who are you looking for?
Yes, I want to, I want to dothis.
So we're done and over with.
Okay, okay, okay.
Well, you shake it and you no,you're pulling on me, so just
(03:33):
Okay, right here, we're good.
Okay, here's the deal.
Doesn't that look a lot likeyou?
No, no, no, it don't look likeme.
That's not him.
What the fuck is that's me?
No, that's not fucking sick yousee this, let me go.
My God no, I got no problem.
My name no, please Stop, stop,stop.
Who are you?
I was gonna take Okay pleaseStop.
(03:54):
Please leave him alone, please,no, no, no, please, that is not
him Please.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Leave me alone.
Get out of my yard, man.
I need to report on this.
I need to report on this.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Nah, you need to get the fuck out of my yard.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
You just said, I'm somebody named Quintin and you
got Granzon and you black Comeon, come on what the fuck is
that shit?
Okay, come on, Nah fuck thatNow you want to leave right.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
No, he just said my kids was out here.
No, it's none of my fuckingkids, okay, oh my God.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
You need to get the socialists over here.
He's my son.
Oh my God, the picture didn'tlook good.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
But he didn't even answer his name.
Now, stay here.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Peace, peace, and welcome back to Freedmen's
Affairs Radio Family.
I'm your host, Vaughn Black.
Aaron Vaughn Black, that is,and right out of the gate we
want to thank you.
Thank you for tapping back inwith us this great day of June
3rd 2025.
Today's math is understandingLet me get a bed in here.
(05:06):
And we know that in the math werefer to as understanding is a
composite of knowledge andwisdom.
And also understanding isthree-dimensional, right, and
(05:32):
it's a way of seeing things forwhat they are, as opposed to
what they appear to be.
Because this is why, right,when you say it's
three-dimensional, because weknow, understand that that that
knowledge is awareness, wisdomis discernment.
Now, when you get tounderstanding, you have with,
(05:59):
which is hindsight, death, whichis insight, and length, which
is foresight.
Right, and okay, we take widthfrom one point to another.
(06:21):
It lets you see things in itstotality, from the point of
where you at, backwards, right,and you could see the broader,
the broader, oh my God, thebroader picture, excuse me for
that.
And it lets you see things fromthe beginning to where you
(06:43):
presently at, and then, when yousee things from the beginning
to where you, where youpresently at, and then when you
get to to death, which isinsight.
It allows you to digforensically into things, people
, places, persons or whateverthe case might be.
It allows you to look deep intothings, right In a forensic
(07:09):
mindset.
And then you have length, whichis foresight.
It allows you to see, take onall the information that you
have and allows you to seefurther down.
If I take this action, whatwill be the outcome If I take
this course?
What will be the outcome of metaking this course or not,
(07:31):
acting on this or acting on this?
What will be the outcome?
So there we have it.
There we have it Understanding.
And I played that clip in thebeginning.
I played that clip in thebeginning.
I played that clip in thebeginning.
That was a, that was a, um, abrother that was in his yard
(07:54):
excuse me for the distortioncoming in.
I got the windows up, so it's alittle echoey in here and but
yeah, that was a dude he was.
I don't know what state thatwas in.
I came across that clip and Ithought it was interesting.
And he, this guy, was in hisyard, in his home and he was
doing something with his dog.
(08:15):
Cop pulled up in the car andtold him he had, the dog is
stolen and he has a warrant.
Now, just from them, those,those two observations.
Right there they to me.
These and this cop was white.
And then another cop came,another white cop came.
They were looking for a kill.
(08:36):
They had scoped this thing outand were looking for a kill.
Now, the reason why I bring thisup, because I'm going to be
touching, think on on these typeof things going forward in the
program, because this blackfatigue thing, this, this, this,
um, hijacked narrative, that,that that these, uh, you see,
(09:00):
coming from, from, uh, whitesociety and in the uh, the
bootleg coon society, you havethese talking points about black
fatigue and and how people areso tired of black people.
But this, but if anybody has aright to be fatigued or tired of
anything, is this behavior.
(09:21):
Look, look look at what I justplayed for you, right?
Look what I just played for you, right, look what I just played
for you.
Now, they sat there and arguedback and forth and they were
trying to put.
The guy would not let him getbehind him where he could put
the cuffs on him and put him ina detaining situation.
(09:46):
So he called for his backup.
The guy came and the backupcame.
He was on some stuff.
And they come to find out whenthey finally got the picture of
the person they were supposedlylooking for, the guy didn't look
nothing like him.
The picture didn't look nothinglike his image, and he was.
(10:06):
He told him, right then, andget the hell out of my yard, get
out of here.
You looking to kill somebody,you looking to kill somebody
with this bogus, this bogus uhthing.
First she came up, said the dogwas stolen, the dog has a chip
in it.
The guy had the paperwork forthe dog.
Then he telling me he has awarrant in another state
(10:26):
somewhere.
He said man, I live right here.
I don't live.
Why would I have a warrantthere?
So you make you figure it out,family.
You figure it out what theywere, what they were trying to
do there, right, and this iscoming, like I said, this is
(10:51):
coming all on the heels of thisblack fatigue stuff, this black
fatigue everybody's talkingabout, right, and this is our
job.
My job appears to report, tomake you see that this is our
job.
My job appears to report, tomake you see that this is all
propaganda.
That's all it is is propaganda,because we got to deal with
(11:14):
these type of situations, and Isee this type of stuff all the
time Right here by my house,over here.
I remember this.
This is maybe going back abouttwo years ago.
I was sitting, I was sitting inmy car, I had parked, found a
parking space on the parkway onthe side of the complex over
(11:35):
here on the parkway and I'msitting in my car.
You know how you just sit therein the car and you, you know,
you just you're not really doinganything.
I think I might have beenlooking at my phone and doing
some stuff in my phone orwhatever.
So I was sitting there for along time and after a while,
some kids, a couple of kids, itwas about, I think, about two or
(11:56):
three of them in the car.
It was a guy driving, youngfellow driving and a young lady
next to him.
It might have been one moreperson in the back driving and a
young lady next to him.
It might have been one moreperson in the back and they
pulled up.
Uh, on the opposite side of meit's a one.
It was a one-way street butthey pulled up.
You know, across from me andpulled over and parked.
(12:17):
They were sitting there and wewere sitting there.
I was sitting there and for thelongest.
Then, all of a, all of a sudden, a patrol car pulls up a cop
car, police car, pulls up Twowhite guys in there, officers,
and I had been sitting there forthe longest.
(12:40):
I was sitting there when thekids pulled up and for the
longest I was sitting there whenthe kids pulled up and they
went by, came back around, wentaround the whole complex and
came back around, because I seenwhen they creeped by and they
was looking in the car, they waslooking, looking, looking,
looking and they went on ahead,turned, made the right and went
(13:02):
back around the complex and cameback.
Now they pulled up and pulledalongside of them, right behind
them.
They get out.
Both of them get out, one onone side, one on the other side
and they went into their routineLicense registration.
(13:23):
All of this Now the car wasparked.
I don't know if I don't thinkthe car was running.
It might've been running, itmight not have been, but they
were.
The kids were just sittingthere, they weren't doing
anything and I had been.
They had been there about 20minutes before the cops showed
up and I had been sitting thereclose to an hour by that by that
time, right, so they wentthrough the routine, you know.
(13:49):
So I'm saying, like, why arethey bombing these kids?
Now, they don't know.
I'm in the car, right, this isright on the.
It's a little what they callparkway, short parkway, and it's
like kind of a desolate, kindof little area, it's like a
service road area, so it wasreally not much traffic on there
(14:11):
a lot of times and you know,it's quite a little in the cut
kind of thing.
Anyway.
So now they, you know, and Ihear, I hear the kids, like what
do we do?
Like what's going on?
And you, you know the posture.
Now I couldn't hear everythingthey were saying, but to me the
posture was they were lookingfor something, I don't know what
(14:38):
, because, like I said, I wassitting there long before those
kids even pulled up.
And then when they pulled up,they was there about 20 minutes,
maybe a half hour, before this,this, this uh encounter with
the police.
So now I said, you know what,let me get out my car.
And I got out.
I had my work ID and shield andeverything on me.
(14:59):
I think I was in uniform anyway, I get out and I said, oh, I
asked the officer.
I said, yeah, how you doing,officer, what happened?
He said, oh, no, we just saw we.
I said, well, these kids didn'tdo anything.
I had been sitting there waybefore they pulled up and they,
(15:19):
they've been here at leastalmost a half hour and I was
sitting here way before them.
Um, what did they do?
So now he realized, um, okay,somebody he didn't know, they
didn't know I was in the car.
So now he realized, okay, wegot eyes on us now and and this
is how funny things work out asI'm talking, they, you know we
(15:42):
conversing here come some, someother people coming out walking
their dogs and some people fromfrom another building coming out
down the walkway there, and nowthe intended people are looking
now.
So now they can't, they can'tdo whatever it is they had
intended to do.
They did.
They rethought it and I said,yeah, because they've been
(16:04):
sitting there for the longest.
I don't, they didn't.
There was no weed smoking ornothing.
The kids were just sitting inthe car.
So when they start talkingabout this black fatigue and all
this man, listen, I could go onfor days up here with you
talking about incidents justlike this.
(16:25):
Yeah, family.
So you know, but I'm turning toturn in the page and we're
going to come back to theculture.
But but up in Boulder, colorado, boulder, colorado and salute
(16:45):
to the family up there inColorado who tune in all the
time I want to bring you a storyabout this thing happening up
there.
Hold on just a second.
Let me pull it up in the queue.
Hold on, hold on.
(17:10):
Let me see when did I have thatat?
Hold on, hold on.
What did I have it in?
Maybe I had it on this side,hold on 1325 Pearl Street, the
courthouse.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
It looks like there is a male with a blowtorch
setting people on fire.
There's multiple mixed reportsabout if people are on fire.
Now we're getting lots of 911calls.
It looks like we have other RPssaying that there was someone
who threw two Molotov cocktails.
We have multiple injuries.
We're sending multipleambulance hoses.
We're trying to get clearerinformation.
We need medical for multipleburns on the courthouse block.
(17:43):
Copy that Arianne Routk.
Can I get a helicopter orairborne standby due to the
severity of the burn Copy?
We are bombarded with lots of911s.
I know that there is at leastone party rolling around in
flames.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Hudson Institute Senior Fellow and National
Security Analyst, rebeccaHeinrichs.
Rebecca, the suspect was hereillegally after staying both his
original visa and his workauthorization.
Simply put, he shouldn't havebeen here and this was
preventable, rebecca.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
He shouldn't have been here.
He overstayed his visa, illegalimmigrant and he was.
He had jihadist sympathies.
And remember, just a couple ofweeks ago we had another couple
who, a killer, believed thatthey were Jewish and he was a
communist.
So we have a communist killingthese individuals.
Same thing globalize theIntifada, free Palestine.
(18:38):
And now here we have again ajihadist who has the same kind
of sympathies, who overstayedhis visa.
Two different kinds of peoplewith the same motivation, which
is to kill the Jewish people.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Is there a means by which the national security
apparatus could have caught thisguy based upon his ideologies
before he entered the US, if notfor the Joe Biden era approach
to letting everybody in thiscountry who wanted to come in?
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Well, it's hard to know at this point, but I'll say
you know the things that he wasshouting right before he took
action to kill these innocentelderly people.
It's the same kind of thingthat you hear on college
campuses across the countryGlobalize the intifada, I mean.
And this came on the heels, bythe way, of what I believe
really is a blood libel, whereyou had the media erroneously
(19:27):
reporting that the Israelis wereshooting on innocent civilians
at a humanitarian checkpoint toget food, and so if you have
false reporting that makes itseem as though the Israelis are
the ones shooting on innocentpeople, of course you should
expect to have an incitement ofviolence when you can see these
protests across the country fromcollege campuses and abroad.
(19:48):
So it's a tinderbox.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
And along those lines , rebecca, let's be crystal
clear what this was.
This was a public burning ofJews and their supporters on
American soil.
We use the phrase terror attack.
That can mean a lot of things.
We need to be crystal clear andspecific as to ultimately what
happened, and, of course, thiscomes right after the execution
of those two Israeli diplomatsin Washington DC.
(20:11):
How do we stop this escalationof terror now, before it becomes
something bigger?
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Well, I think the first thing that we have to do
is to differentiate between whatthe First Amendment protects,
which is just peaceful speech,even if you disagree with it.
That's one kind of speech, butthe other kind is incitement.
It's anti-Semitic, genocidalincitement, and so I think these
college campuses cannotcontinue to normalize it.
(20:40):
You, jewish students must feelsafe in this country to walk.
Non-jewish students, I mean,I'm a Christian.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Now I'm stopping right there because they're full
of propaganda.
I mean, I'm a Christian.
Now I'm stopping right therebecause they're full of
propaganda.
Listen this they trying to tiein the, this attack, with
college campuses and Jewishstudents being safe.
It's a bunch of propaganda.
They call it a genocide becauseof what they're doing.
So you know, we're going, we,the whole world sees what's
(21:09):
going on.
Now I'm not saying that this,I'm not taking either side.
This has absolutely nothing todo with me or my ethnic group or
my lineage or anything.
So not saying we don't care, Idon't have, it's not our affair.
I just brought this here uphere as a report to the Colorado
incident that happened.
(21:29):
I think it was on Sunday thatit happened and these eight
people got hurt.
I think they were killed.
And this menace, this guy thatdid this, he had some kind of
flame torch or blow torch orsomething and he threw some
Molotov cartels and set peopleon fire and this guy, he was out
there to kill.
(21:50):
So that's why.
But they went into that andthat was fox news that I pulled
that report up on, and in fairuse, by the way, fair use, and I
pulled that report up and yeah,so that's what what that was,
and they tried to sway it.
They crowbarred that thing inthere about genocide and the
(22:17):
college campuses had nothing todo with that, but they found a
way to crowbar that in there.
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Yeah, now we back, we back infamily, we back in and yeah, so
Also, also on the heels of that,on the heels of that, with this
Boulder Colorado attack thatthey the whole world Is watching
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the situation would rut betweenRussia and Ukraine.
Ukraine at the moment becausenow, from what I understand,
putin is threatening, isposturing, to unleash, uh, some
kind of nuclear assault.
I don't know if he'sthreatening that or is he
(25:13):
posturing that, but this iswhat's being disanimating
throughout the news world andthe world is watching because
they're saying that Putin islike y'all want to play with me.
I won't let the big boys out onyou, but I got smaller nuclear
(25:34):
capabilities that I could let goon Ukraine.
Now NATO is really paying thetip because if he does that
because the thing is, they wouldhave to attack Russia if he
uses any kind of nuclearoffensive or any kind of forward
(25:54):
progress with any kind ofnuclear situation they would.
The NATO would have to get intoit and and you know there's
about 30 something countries inin it.
Now Ukraine is not a part ofNATO but, but you know you got
Canada, france, italy, unitedKingdom, united States, germany,
belgium, portugal, iceland,poland, czech Republic, bulgaria
(26:22):
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All these places are part ofNATO and if Putin decides to go
forward with any kind ofaggressive offense with, with,
with a smaller nuclear attack orsomething like that, that that
can trigger some stuff.
So you know, people are like onon edge about this thing, like
(26:46):
world war three and stuff likethat, and so we gotta pay
attention to stuff like that.
Even though we stick to culturalthings up here on the show, we
have to to pay attention to thatand that's why I I talk I'm
talking about speaking on it onthe heels of the of the attacks
in colorado a lot of this stuffmay be some kind of way
(27:08):
intertwined and interconnectedin some way.
So we're going to keep our eyeson that and we're not going to
stay long up here, family, we'renot going to stay long.
We just I just wanted to comeup and just just uh chat with
you just a little bit.
We're gonna.
We're gonna the last thing, thelast thing.
Wait a minute.
Back to that black fatigue.
You know you got a lot of theuh, a lot of the uh tether class
(27:34):
, that that speaking on this.
They taking cues from whitesociety and they're talking
about this black fatigue.
Right now we got a situationit's funny because these people
love I'm talking about melanatedblack people that come from
(27:56):
Africa and the Caribbean andthey talk about how lazy we are
and we don't take advantages ofall the good opportunities in
America and we don't want towhack, because they come here
with two dollars and they whackhard and they surpass black
(28:16):
Americans by astronomicalnumbers in success.
Well, I found something thatwas interesting.
I found something that wasinteresting.
Hold on, let me just see if Ican get it in the queue here.
Hold on, all right, and thiswas um, this was uh, something
(28:39):
reporting on the SNAP benefits.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Hold on, hold on Five others under arrest this
morning, accused of amultimillion dollar food stamp
fraud and bribery scheme.
The US attorney's office forthe Southern District of New
York calling this one of thelargest food stamp frauds in US
history.
Joining me now is the USsecretary of agriculture, brooke
Rollins.
Secretary, it's great to haveyou this morning.
What can you tell us about this?
Speaker 8 (29:02):
Well, good morning Maria.
It's always so great to be withyou and you are coming from one
of my favorite places inAmerica, so it's really great to
see you there.
Listen, this is a new day andPresident Trump promised, as he
was traveling across the countryover the last few years, that
it would not be the governmentthat we know, the government
certainly, that under Joe Biden,exponentially grew and,
(29:24):
alongside that, including thefraud and waste and abuse.
And so at USDA, we are hyperfocused, hyper focused on
rooting out that waste, fraudand abuse and, to your point,
yesterday was, if not thelargest, one of the largest
stings and moving forward andfinding that fraud I think
almost $70 million that is nolonger going to be allowed here
(29:47):
in Washington and with theseprograms like the food stamp
program.
So we're going to move forward,obviously in partnership with
the FBI, with the Department ofJustice, of course.
Our team at USDA.
This is not the one and only.
There are going to be many moreto come and we're going to make
sure that we're delivering onour promises to the taxpayers.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
So the prosecutors and the authorities are saying
that this person defrauded theSNAP program right the, also
known as food stamps $66 millionin unauthorized transactions.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
That's right.
Well, the food stamp program isone of the largest government
programs across the federalgovernment and obviously I've
talked on this show and othershows that it's time for real,
effective change.
Part of that $200 billionannual program the best sort of
estimate is between 20 to 30percent of that is fraud, waste
(30:43):
and abuse.
The $66 million that wasannounced yesterday on behalf of
USDA and the others that werepart of that again is just the
tip of the spear and the waythat works.
Maria, the EBT cards is whatUSDA, the government, uses to
provide that supplementalnutrition assistance, which is
the food stamps, and that it's afairly easy thing to do.
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We're trying to lock it downright now to ensure that it
doesn't keep happening, but whenyou've got employees that
basically don't follow the law,then we've got to fix it and
that's what we're doing.
There's going to be realconsequences for breaking the
law across America's federalgovernment with President Trump,
but this is just one of manymore to come.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Well, we definitely want to see consequences and
accountability.
But let me move on, secretary,you approved state waivers to
make America healthy again byremoving unhealthy foods from
the SNAP.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Yes, I wanted to bring you that report Now to get
to the good part of it, family.
Get to the good part of it thatthis fraud was put on by a
woman that was heading in thatparticular department in the
USDA Health and Agriculture partof the program and her name was
(31:56):
.
We dug her up researched healthand agriculture part of the
program and her name was we dugher up, research to.
Her name is Arsala Davis.
Excuse me, somebody calling me,trying to FaceTime me.
I gotta call them back.
(32:17):
I gotta call him back.
I got to call him back, butanyway, yeah, yeah, but anyway,
yeah, her name is Arsala Davis.
Now, this woman is a Caribbeanwoman and she had about five
other co-defendants, becausethere's about six of them.
That's on the indictment alltogether and the rest of them
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are like African and got a lotof Muslim last names.
So they're from African nations, but this woman was from the
Caribbean.
Somewhere in the Caribbean Idon't know if it's Jamaica or
Haiti, but my point being, mypoint being family, they love to
tell us how we wait forhandouts.
These are the tethers tellingus they'll.
We love handouts.
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You know the black americans.
They don't want to work fornothing.
They just want something thegovernment to give them a
handout.
Look, look, look what happened.
This is the biggest, and righthere in this state, new york,
where I reside, this is thebiggest fraud in the history of
the program, the snap benefit ofa lot of people call it food
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stamp, but it's.
It's actually the snap snapbenefit program from the usda
department of health andagriculture, right, and they
defraud the government 66million dollars.
Damn, that's 70 million.
That's going to be taken awayfrom this program, especially
(33:47):
here in this region.
But they love to tell us howmuch we wait for handouts.
These are the tethers, thetether class, and I haven't said
it yet in public, but to behonest with you family, those
people family and we're notsaying all foreign people from
(34:09):
Africa or the Caribbean are likethis, but what we're saying is
this they should never come hereand speak on our affairs.
Saying is this they shouldnever come here and speak on our
affairs.
You don't qualify to, you'renot qualified enough to speak on
our affairs and you should.
You should keep your mouthclosed, right, about what we're
(34:31):
doing, what we're not doing.
So, yeah, and I'm again, onceagain.
Uh, apologize for that outsidenoise.
I got the windows up so it's alittle bleeding in and I think
they're out there cutting thegrass in the complex or whatever
they're cutting the grass sothose lawnmowers are running.
But yeah, family, the lastthing I'm gonna get into.
The last thing I'm gonna getinto is um, president trump has
(34:57):
commuted, gave commutation to,to the og out in illinois,
chicago to be exact, larryhoover, and hold on yeah and uh
is.
I think it's a very strategicmove and if you're coming from
(35:20):
the point of because Trump is abusiness guy, he understands
business and he understandsbusiness moves, now a lot of
people are saying that this is aprelude to him giving Derek
Chauvin a pardon of his federalcharges.
This is what people are saying.
(35:43):
I don't know if it is, timewill tell, but I would
understand it if he did because,unlike the Democrats, this man
he knows he has to throw hisbase a bone here and there.
So letting Pawn and DerrickShaven would indeed be a type of
(36:05):
victory for those, the MAGA,white supremacist groups, for
those people, you understand,that would definitely be a
symbolic win for them, and andunderstandably so.
Now, am I saying this right?
No, I'm not saying this right,but I understand it so.
(36:26):
But the thing is with larryhoover.
Larry hoover still has like 200years in the state that that he
has to answer for.
Now.
Excellent move by trump.
Now some people saying theydon't understand why he done it
or whatever.
He's put it the way I see it,maybe I'm wrong, but the way I
see it he's put, he's moving thechessboard to say, okay, your
(36:49):
move now.
Because right there in illinois, chicago, illinois, you got
Governor Pritzker there.
Now, the 200 years that LarryHoover got with the state, the
only way, because he's not goingto get out, even though the
feds are going to let him go,he's going to go right to the
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state and the only way he canget around that if that governor
there Pritzker gives him aparty, a full party, and he
would be free.
Now the reason why this isimportant?
Because you know, right therein Chicago the black population
(37:33):
is very upset with theDemocratic Party, to where they
got a movement there called uh,flipping chicago red right
because of the, the, whatbrandon that may have done to
that city of chicago, of um let,with the, the illegal immigrant
thing, and how do you have theblack population very upset?
(37:56):
And it would behoove them.
It would behoove them to thinkabout seriously, think about
pardoning Larry Hoover becauseof the damage that Brandon
Johnson has done and he has theDemocratic numbers in the
dumpster.
His numbers are in the dumpsterand the morale of the city is
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in the dumpster.
His numbers are in the dumpsterand the morale of the city is
in the dumpster.
Letting Larry Hoover out wouldreally give the Democrats a kind
of boost that I think theywould need, or even I think they
should even consider theimplications of what may be
(38:43):
possible.
If they let Hoover out, couldhe be a help to the community
Because he's no longer a threat?
The man is 70, what?
74 years old.
He's no more a threat.
He's an old man now.
Maybe he has some cachet in thestreet with some of the street
(39:03):
dudes there.
I don't know.
Usually, when guys have beenaway that long and have, you
know, been away from the actionthat long, they don't really
have sway with the streetsanymore.
People.
You know some of the gangstersstill respect their OG status
and you know they'll be able to,you know, get by or whatever
(39:25):
like that.
But as far as any kind of swayor any pull, any kind of
influence, I'm not sure if thatis there as it once was.
Of course it's not there whenhe was running around in society
.
That kind of influence has beengone because he's been away for
so long, but he may still beable to help some of the youth
(39:47):
there.
That's possible.
So it would behoove them tothink about, to seriously think
about pardoning him in the state, because Trump has put the move
.
The put the move on them now.
Okay, I did this.
Now, what y'all gonna do, andit's this would be good at the
black vote.
So it's gonna be interesting tosee what's going on with this
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thing and, like, as I said,we're not gonna stay.
We wasn't up here to stay long.
Family wasn't up here to staylong.
We're gonna get ready to getout of here.
I'm let you go on with your dayand, in the words of malik, you
must respect life, love justice, cherish freedom and treasure
the peace.
Y'all, go in peace and keep thepeace and come back and see us.
Come back and see us peace.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Thank you, we'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
You got to give the people.
Give the people what they want.
Well, well, well, well, don'tyou know you?
You got to give the people.
Give the people what they want.
(41:28):
Well, I've been all over theworld.
Speaker 8 (41:38):
And everybody feels the same.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
It's a unanimous decision.
I said we're ready for change.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't youknow?
You can give the people whatthey want.
Well, don't you know?
He don't even know my name, and tell him I have a
warrant.
What did he do?
That's what.
I'm saying For what For what?
You're not from Louisiana.
For what For what?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
I don't even live in.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Louisiana.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
So how can I?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
have a.
You don't know my name, so howcan you tell him I have
Speaker 3 (00:14):
a warrant in Louisiana.
Sir, sir Stop, I got a Calvarycoming.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
I already got you.
No, you don't even know my name?
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Why?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
would I trust you?
I'm confused.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
He don't even live in Louisiana.
How?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
can you tell?
Speaker 1 (00:35):
me.
I have something and you don'tknow my name.
You just put him in front of myhouse.
Could you shake it like youscared of something.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Okay, he don't live in Louisiana.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
I don't live in Louisiana.
How the hell would I ever mournin Louisiana?
Quentin, you already said yourname was that.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
My name is not Quentin.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Sorry, his name is not Quentin,my name is not Quentin.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Then let's see the ID and we'll be done.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Okay, hold on, hold on, no, no, no no, his name is
not Quentin Quentin who juststopped in front of my fucking
house.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
What's my name, man, fuck that.
You psyching like you scared.
I'm not going to let you putit's up.
What's my name?
Please stop, stop, Please stop,stop, stop.
My name is not, no fucking.
Quentin.
You don't even know my name.
Okay, wait, walk with me.
No, walk with me.
(01:43):
He's not going nowhere.
He's not going nowhere.
I need your supervisor.
Let me see your stripes.
I need somebody to turn the car.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
No give me to your car, Sir sir.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
You in my yard, on my property.
Fuck that.
You stop.
Who are you looking for?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
His name is not Quentin.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Let me see right here .
You think I'm from New Yorkbecause I got dreads or
something.
No, you just pulled up in frontof my fucking house and told me
I got a boy in.
Louisiana.
So what?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
That's my fucking dog , that's our dog.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
That's our dog.
Go in the house, sir.
That's our dog.
Why don't you touch me?
Why you shaking?
You need to step back and calmdown.
No, fuck that, sir.
His name is not Quinn, that'sour dog, you just told me three
different names.
You pulling up on some bullshittalking about I got a stolen
dog.
My dog is chipped.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
I got a chip in my dog.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I have a dog since it was born.
Okay, let me see the ID, andthen you talking about some shit
.
My name is.
My name is not, no fucking quiz.
I'm not telling you my name isnot.
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That's our dog.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Oh my.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
God.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Sorry, who are you looking for?
Calm down, calm down, calm down, calm down, please, calm down.
Who are you looking for?
Yes, I want to, I want to dothis.
So we're done and over with.
Okay, okay, okay.
Well, you shake it and you no,you're pulling on me, so just
(03:33):
Okay, right here, we're good.
Okay, here's the deal.
Doesn't that look a lot likeyou?
No, no, no, it don't look likeme.
That's not him.
What the fuck is that's me?
No, that's not fucking sick yousee this, let me go.
My God no, I got no problem.
My name no, please Stop, stop,stop.
Who are you?
I was gonna take Okay pleaseStop.
(03:54):
Please leave him alone, please,no, no, no, please, that is not
him Please.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Leave me alone.
Get out of my yard, man.
I need to report on this.
I need to report on this.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Nah, you need to get the fuck out of my yard.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
You just said, I'm somebody named Quintin and you
got Granzon and you black Comeon, come on what the fuck is
that shit?
Okay, come on, Nah fuck thatNow you want to leave right.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
No, he just said my kids was out here.
No, it's none of my fuckingkids, okay, oh my God.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
You need to get the socialists over here.
He's my son.
Oh my God, the picture didn'tlook good.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
But he didn't even answer his name.
Now, stay here.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Peace, peace, and welcome back to Freedmen's
Affairs Radio Family.
I'm your host, Vaughn Black.
Aaron Vaughn Black, that is,and right out of the gate we
want to thank you.
Thank you for tapping back inwith us this great day of June
3rd 2025.
Today's math is understandingLet me get a bed in here.
(05:06):
And we know that in the math werefer to as understanding is a
composite of knowledge andwisdom.
And also understanding isthree-dimensional, right, and
(05:32):
it's a way of seeing things forwhat they are, as opposed to
what they appear to be.
Because this is why, right,when you say it's
three-dimensional, because weknow, understand that that that
knowledge is awareness, wisdomis discernment.
Now, when you get tounderstanding, you have with,
(05:59):
which is hindsight, death, whichis insight, and length, which
is foresight.
Right, and okay, we take widthfrom one point to another.
(06:21):
It lets you see things in itstotality, from the point of
where you at, backwards, right,and you could see the broader,
the broader, oh my God, thebroader picture, excuse me for
that.
And it lets you see things fromthe beginning to where you
(06:43):
presently at, and then, when yousee things from the beginning
to where you, where youpresently at, and then when you
get to to death, which isinsight.
It allows you to digforensically into things, people
, places, persons or whateverthe case might be.
It allows you to look deep intothings, right In a forensic
(07:09):
mindset.
And then you have length, whichis foresight.
It allows you to see, take onall the information that you
have and allows you to seefurther down.
If I take this action, whatwill be the outcome If I take
this course?
What will be the outcome of metaking this course or not,
(07:31):
acting on this or acting on this?
What will be the outcome?
So there we have it.
There we have it Understanding.
And I played that clip in thebeginning.
I played that clip in thebeginning.
I played that clip in thebeginning.
That was a, that was a, um, abrother that was in his yard
(07:54):
excuse me for the distortioncoming in.
I got the windows up, so it's alittle echoey in here and but
yeah, that was a dude he was.
I don't know what state thatwas in.
I came across that clip and Ithought it was interesting.
And he, this guy, was in hisyard, in his home and he was
doing something with his dog.
(08:15):
Cop pulled up in the car andtold him he had, the dog is
stolen and he has a warrant.
Now, just from them, those,those two observations.
Right there they to me.
These and this cop was white.
And then another cop came,another white cop came.
They were looking for a kill.
(08:36):
They had scoped this thing outand were looking for a kill.
Now, the reason why I bring thisup, because I'm going to be
touching, think on on these typeof things going forward in the
program, because this blackfatigue thing, this, this, this,
um, hijacked narrative, that,that that these, uh, you see,
(09:00):
coming from, from, uh, whitesociety and in the uh, the
bootleg coon society, you havethese talking points about black
fatigue and and how people areso tired of black people.
But this, but if anybody has aright to be fatigued or tired of
anything, is this behavior.
(09:21):
Look, look look at what I justplayed for you, right?
Look what I just played for you, right, look what I just played
for you.
Now, they sat there and arguedback and forth and they were
trying to put.
The guy would not let him getbehind him where he could put
the cuffs on him and put him ina detaining situation.
(09:46):
So he called for his backup.
The guy came and the backupcame.
He was on some stuff.
And they come to find out whenthey finally got the picture of
the person they were supposedlylooking for, the guy didn't look
nothing like him.
The picture didn't look nothinglike his image, and he was.
(10:06):
He told him, right then, andget the hell out of my yard, get
out of here.
You looking to kill somebody,you looking to kill somebody
with this bogus, this bogus uhthing.
First she came up, said the dogwas stolen, the dog has a chip
in it.
The guy had the paperwork forthe dog.
Then he telling me he has awarrant in another state
(10:26):
somewhere.
He said man, I live right here.
I don't live.
Why would I have a warrantthere?
So you make you figure it out,family.
You figure it out what theywere, what they were trying to
do there, right, and this iscoming, like I said, this is
(10:51):
coming all on the heels of thisblack fatigue stuff, this black
fatigue everybody's talkingabout, right, and this is our
job.
My job appears to report, tomake you see that this is our
job.
My job appears to report, tomake you see that this is all
propaganda.
That's all it is is propaganda,because we got to deal with
(11:14):
these type of situations, and Isee this type of stuff all the
time Right here by my house,over here.
I remember this.
This is maybe going back abouttwo years ago.
I was sitting, I was sitting inmy car, I had parked, found a
parking space on the parkway onthe side of the complex over
(11:35):
here on the parkway and I'msitting in my car.
You know how you just sit therein the car and you, you know,
you just you're not really doinganything.
I think I might have beenlooking at my phone and doing
some stuff in my phone orwhatever.
So I was sitting there for along time and after a while,
some kids, a couple of kids, itwas about, I think, about two or
(11:56):
three of them in the car.
It was a guy driving, youngfellow driving and a young lady
next to him.
It might have been one moreperson in the back driving and a
young lady next to him.
It might have been one moreperson in the back and they
pulled up.
Uh, on the opposite side of meit's a one.
It was a one-way street butthey pulled up.
You know, across from me andpulled over and parked.
(12:17):
They were sitting there and wewere sitting there.
I was sitting there and for thelongest.
Then, all of a, all of a sudden, a patrol car pulls up a cop
car, police car, pulls up Twowhite guys in there, officers,
and I had been sitting there forthe longest.
(12:40):
I was sitting there when thekids pulled up and for the
longest I was sitting there whenthe kids pulled up and they
went by, came back around, wentaround the whole complex and
came back around, because I seenwhen they creeped by and they
was looking in the car, they waslooking, looking, looking,
looking and they went on ahead,turned, made the right and went
(13:02):
back around the complex and cameback.
Now they pulled up and pulledalongside of them, right behind
them.
They get out.
Both of them get out, one onone side, one on the other side
and they went into their routineLicense registration.
(13:23):
All of this Now the car wasparked.
I don't know if I don't thinkthe car was running.
It might've been running, itmight not have been, but they
were.
The kids were just sittingthere, they weren't doing
anything and I had been.
They had been there about 20minutes before the cops showed
up and I had been sitting thereclose to an hour by that by that
time, right, so they wentthrough the routine, you know.
(13:49):
So I'm saying, like, why arethey bombing these kids?
Now, they don't know.
I'm in the car, right, this isright on the.
It's a little what they callparkway, short parkway, and it's
like kind of a desolate, kindof little area, it's like a
service road area, so it wasreally not much traffic on there
(14:11):
a lot of times and you know,it's quite a little in the cut
kind of thing.
Anyway.
So now they, you know, and Ihear, I hear the kids, like what
do we do?
Like what's going on?
And you, you know the posture.
Now I couldn't hear everythingthey were saying, but to me the
posture was they were lookingfor something, I don't know what
(14:38):
, because, like I said, I wassitting there long before those
kids even pulled up.
And then when they pulled up,they was there about 20 minutes,
maybe a half hour, before this,this, this uh encounter with
the police.
So now I said, you know what,let me get out my car.
And I got out.
I had my work ID and shield andeverything on me.
(14:59):
I think I was in uniform anyway, I get out and I said, oh, I
asked the officer.
I said, yeah, how you doing,officer, what happened?
He said, oh, no, we just saw we.
I said, well, these kids didn'tdo anything.
I had been sitting there waybefore they pulled up and they,
(15:19):
they've been here at leastalmost a half hour and I was
sitting here way before them.
Um, what did they do?
So now he realized, um, okay,somebody he didn't know, they
didn't know I was in the car.
So now he realized, okay, wegot eyes on us now and and this
is how funny things work out asI'm talking, they, you know we
(15:42):
conversing here come some, someother people coming out walking
their dogs and some people fromfrom another building coming out
down the walkway there, and nowthe intended people are looking
now.
So now they can't, they can'tdo whatever it is they had
intended to do.
They did.
They rethought it and I said,yeah, because they've been
(16:04):
sitting there for the longest.
I don't, they didn't.
There was no weed smoking ornothing.
The kids were just sitting inthe car.
So when they start talkingabout this black fatigue and all
this man, listen, I could go onfor days up here with you
talking about incidents justlike this.
(16:25):
Yeah, family.
So you know, but I'm turning toturn in the page and we're
going to come back to theculture.
But but up in Boulder, colorado, boulder, colorado and salute
(16:45):
to the family up there inColorado who tune in all the
time I want to bring you a storyabout this thing happening up
there.
Hold on just a second.
Let me pull it up in the queue.
Hold on, hold on.
(17:10):
Let me see when did I have thatat?
Hold on, hold on.
What did I have it in?
Maybe I had it on this side,hold on 1325 Pearl Street, the
courthouse.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
It looks like there is a male with a blowtorch
setting people on fire.
There's multiple mixed reportsabout if people are on fire.
Now we're getting lots of 911calls.
It looks like we have other RPssaying that there was someone
who threw two Molotov cocktails.
We have multiple injuries.
We're sending multipleambulance hoses.
We're trying to get clearerinformation.
We need medical for multipleburns on the courthouse block.
(17:43):
Copy that Arianne Routk.
Can I get a helicopter orairborne standby due to the
severity of the burn Copy?
We are bombarded with lots of911s.
I know that there is at leastone party rolling around in
flames.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Hudson Institute Senior Fellow and National
Security Analyst, rebeccaHeinrichs.
Rebecca, the suspect was hereillegally after staying both his
original visa and his workauthorization.
Simply put, he shouldn't havebeen here and this was
preventable, rebecca.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
He shouldn't have been here.
He overstayed his visa, illegalimmigrant and he was.
He had jihadist sympathies.
And remember, just a couple ofweeks ago we had another couple
who, a killer, believed thatthey were Jewish and he was a
communist.
So we have a communist killingthese individuals.
Same thing globalize theIntifada, free Palestine.
(18:38):
And now here we have again ajihadist who has the same kind
of sympathies, who overstayedhis visa.
Two different kinds of peoplewith the same motivation, which
is to kill the Jewish people.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Is there a means by which the national security
apparatus could have caught thisguy based upon his ideologies
before he entered the US, if notfor the Joe Biden era approach
to letting everybody in thiscountry who wanted to come in?
Speaker 5 (19:06):
Well, it's hard to know at this point, but I'll say
you know the things that he wasshouting right before he took
action to kill these innocentelderly people.
It's the same kind of thingthat you hear on college
campuses across the countryGlobalize the intifada, I mean.
And this came on the heels, bythe way, of what I believe
really is a blood libel, whereyou had the media erroneously
(19:27):
reporting that the Israelis wereshooting on innocent civilians
at a humanitarian checkpoint toget food, and so if you have
false reporting that makes itseem as though the Israelis are
the ones shooting on innocentpeople, of course you should
expect to have an incitement ofviolence when you can see these
protests across the country fromcollege campuses and abroad.
(19:48):
So it's a tinderbox.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
And along those lines , rebecca, let's be crystal
clear what this was.
This was a public burning ofJews and their supporters on
American soil.
We use the phrase terror attack.
That can mean a lot of things.
We need to be crystal clear andspecific as to ultimately what
happened, and, of course, thiscomes right after the execution
of those two Israeli diplomatsin Washington DC.
(20:11):
How do we stop this escalationof terror now, before it becomes
something bigger?
Speaker 5 (20:20):
Well, I think the first thing that we have to do
is to differentiate between whatthe First Amendment protects,
which is just peaceful speech,even if you disagree with it.
That's one kind of speech, butthe other kind is incitement.
It's anti-Semitic, genocidalincitement, and so I think these
college campuses cannotcontinue to normalize it.
(20:40):
You, jewish students must feelsafe in this country to walk.
Non-jewish students, I mean,I'm a Christian.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Now I'm stopping right there because they're full
of propaganda.
I mean, I'm a Christian.
Now I'm stopping right therebecause they're full of
propaganda.
Listen this they trying to tiein the, this attack, with
college campuses and Jewishstudents being safe.
It's a bunch of propaganda.
They call it a genocide becauseof what they're doing.
So you know, we're going, we,the whole world sees what's
(21:09):
going on.
Now I'm not saying that this,I'm not taking either side.
This has absolutely nothing todo with me or my ethnic group or
my lineage or anything.
So not saying we don't care, Idon't have, it's not our affair.
I just brought this here uphere as a report to the Colorado
incident that happened.
(21:29):
I think it was on Sunday thatit happened and these eight
people got hurt.
I think they were killed.
And this menace, this guy thatdid this, he had some kind of
flame torch or blow torch orsomething and he threw some
Molotov cartels and set peopleon fire and this guy, he was out
there to kill.
(21:50):
So that's why.
But they went into that andthat was fox news that I pulled
that report up on, and in fairuse, by the way, fair use, and I
pulled that report up and yeah,so that's what what that was,
and they tried to sway it.
They crowbarred that thing inthere about genocide and the
(22:17):
college campuses had nothing todo with that, but they found a
way to crowbar that in there.
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Hey, if you didn't want to bein here, alright.
Yeah, now we back, we back infamily, we back in and yeah, so
Also, also on the heels of that,on the heels of that, with this
Boulder Colorado attack thatthey the whole world Is watching
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the situation would rut betweenRussia and Ukraine.
Ukraine at the moment becausenow, from what I understand,
putin is threatening, isposturing, to unleash, uh, some
kind of nuclear assault.
I don't know if he'sthreatening that or is he
(25:13):
posturing that, but this iswhat's being disanimating
throughout the news world andthe world is watching because
they're saying that Putin islike y'all want to play with me.
I won't let the big boys out onyou, but I got smaller nuclear
(25:34):
capabilities that I could let goon Ukraine.
Now NATO is really paying thetip because if he does that
because the thing is, they wouldhave to attack Russia if he
uses any kind of nuclearoffensive or any kind of forward
(25:54):
progress with any kind ofnuclear situation they would.
The NATO would have to get intoit and and you know there's
about 30 something countries inin it.
Now Ukraine is not a part ofNATO but, but you know you got
Canada, france, italy, unitedKingdom, united States, germany,
belgium, portugal, iceland,poland, czech Republic, bulgaria
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All these places are part ofNATO and if Putin decides to go
forward with any kind ofaggressive offense with, with,
with a smaller nuclear attack orsomething like that, that that
can trigger some stuff.
So you know, people are like onon edge about this thing, like
(26:46):
world war three and stuff likethat, and so we gotta pay
attention to stuff like that.
Even though we stick to culturalthings up here on the show, we
have to to pay attention to thatand that's why I I talk I'm
talking about speaking on it onthe heels of the of the attacks
in colorado a lot of this stuffmay be some kind of way
(27:08):
intertwined and interconnectedin some way.
So we're going to keep our eyeson that and we're not going to
stay long up here, family, we'renot going to stay long.
We just I just wanted to comeup and just just uh chat with
you just a little bit.
We're gonna.
We're gonna the last thing, thelast thing.
Wait a minute.
Back to that black fatigue.
You know you got a lot of theuh, a lot of the uh tether class
(27:34):
, that that speaking on this.
They taking cues from whitesociety and they're talking
about this black fatigue.
Right now we got a situationit's funny because these people
love I'm talking about melanatedblack people that come from
(27:56):
Africa and the Caribbean andthey talk about how lazy we are
and we don't take advantages ofall the good opportunities in
America and we don't want towhack, because they come here
with two dollars and they whackhard and they surpass black
(28:16):
Americans by astronomicalnumbers in success.
Well, I found something thatwas interesting.
I found something that wasinteresting.
Hold on, let me just see if Ican get it in the queue here.
Hold on, all right, and thiswas um, this was uh, something
(28:39):
reporting on the SNAP benefits.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Hold on, hold on Five others under arrest this
morning, accused of amultimillion dollar food stamp
fraud and bribery scheme.
The US attorney's office forthe Southern District of New
York calling this one of thelargest food stamp frauds in US
history.
Joining me now is the USsecretary of agriculture, brooke
Rollins.
Secretary, it's great to haveyou this morning.
What can you tell us about this?
Speaker 8 (29:02):
Well, good morning Maria.
It's always so great to be withyou and you are coming from one
of my favorite places inAmerica, so it's really great to
see you there.
Listen, this is a new day andPresident Trump promised, as he
was traveling across the countryover the last few years, that
it would not be the governmentthat we know, the government
certainly, that under Joe Biden,exponentially grew and,
(29:24):
alongside that, including thefraud and waste and abuse.
And so at USDA, we are hyperfocused, hyper focused on
rooting out that waste, fraudand abuse and, to your point,
yesterday was, if not thelargest, one of the largest
stings and moving forward andfinding that fraud I think
almost $70 million that is nolonger going to be allowed here
(29:47):
in Washington and with theseprograms like the food stamp
program.
So we're going to move forward,obviously in partnership with
the FBI, with the Department ofJustice, of course.
Our team at USDA.
This is not the one and only.
There are going to be many moreto come and we're going to make
sure that we're delivering onour promises to the taxpayers.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
So the prosecutors and the authorities are saying
that this person defrauded theSNAP program right the, also
known as food stamps $66 millionin unauthorized transactions.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
That's right.
Well, the food stamp program isone of the largest government
programs across the federalgovernment and obviously I've
talked on this show and othershows that it's time for real,
effective change.
Part of that $200 billionannual program the best sort of
estimate is between 20 to 30percent of that is fraud, waste
(30:43):
and abuse.
The $66 million that wasannounced yesterday on behalf of
USDA and the others that werepart of that again is just the
tip of the spear and the waythat works.
Maria, the EBT cards is whatUSDA, the government, uses to
provide that supplementalnutrition assistance, which is
the food stamps, and that it's afairly easy thing to do.
(31:05):
We're trying to lock it downright now to ensure that it
doesn't keep happening, but whenyou've got employees that
basically don't follow the law,then we've got to fix it and
that's what we're doing.
There's going to be realconsequences for breaking the
law across America's federalgovernment with President Trump,
but this is just one of manymore to come.
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Well, we definitely want to see consequences and
accountability.
But let me move on, secretary,you approved state waivers to
make America healthy again byremoving unhealthy foods from
the SNAP.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
Yes, I wanted to bring you that report Now to get
to the good part of it, family.
Get to the good part of it thatthis fraud was put on by a
woman that was heading in thatparticular department in the
USDA Health and Agriculture partof the program and her name was
(31:56):
.
We dug her up researched healthand agriculture part of the
program and her name was we dugher up, research to.
Her name is Arsala Davis.
Excuse me, somebody calling me,trying to FaceTime me.
I gotta call them back.
(32:17):
I gotta call him back.
I got to call him back, butanyway, yeah, yeah, but anyway,
yeah, her name is Arsala Davis.
Now, this woman is a Caribbeanwoman and she had about five
other co-defendants, becausethere's about six of them.
That's on the indictment alltogether and the rest of them
(32:42):
are like African and got a lotof Muslim last names.
So they're from African nations, but this woman was from the
Caribbean.
Somewhere in the Caribbean Idon't know if it's Jamaica or
Haiti, but my point being, mypoint being family, they love to
tell us how we wait forhandouts.
These are the tethers tellingus they'll.
We love handouts.
(33:02):
You know the black americans.
They don't want to work fornothing.
They just want something thegovernment to give them a
handout.
Look, look, look what happened.
This is the biggest, and righthere in this state, new york,
where I reside, this is thebiggest fraud in the history of
the program, the snap benefit ofa lot of people call it food
(33:23):
stamp, but it's.
It's actually the snap snapbenefit program from the usda
department of health andagriculture, right, and they
defraud the government 66million dollars.
Damn, that's 70 million.
That's going to be taken awayfrom this program, especially
(33:47):
here in this region.
But they love to tell us howmuch we wait for handouts.
These are the tethers, thetether class, and I haven't said
it yet in public, but to behonest with you family, those
people family and we're notsaying all foreign people from
(34:09):
Africa or the Caribbean are likethis, but what we're saying is
this they should never come hereand speak on our affairs.
Saying is this they shouldnever come here and speak on our
affairs.
You don't qualify to, you'renot qualified enough to speak on
our affairs and you should.
You should keep your mouthclosed, right, about what we're
(34:31):
doing, what we're not doing.
So, yeah, and I'm again, onceagain.
Uh, apologize for that outsidenoise.
I got the windows up so it's alittle bleeding in and I think
they're out there cutting thegrass in the complex or whatever
they're cutting the grass sothose lawnmowers are running.
But yeah, family, the lastthing I'm gonna get into.
The last thing I'm gonna getinto is um, president trump has
(34:57):
commuted, gave commutation to,to the og out in illinois,
chicago to be exact, larryhoover, and hold on yeah and uh
is.
I think it's a very strategicmove and if you're coming from
(35:20):
the point of because Trump is abusiness guy, he understands
business and he understandsbusiness moves, now a lot of
people are saying that this is aprelude to him giving Derek
Chauvin a pardon of his federalcharges.
This is what people are saying.
(35:43):
I don't know if it is, timewill tell, but I would
understand it if he did because,unlike the Democrats, this man
he knows he has to throw hisbase a bone here and there.
So letting Pawn and DerrickShaven would indeed be a type of
(36:05):
victory for those, the MAGA,white supremacist groups, for
those people, you understand,that would definitely be a
symbolic win for them, and andunderstandably so.
Now, am I saying this right?
No, I'm not saying this right,but I understand it so.
(36:26):
But the thing is with larryhoover.
Larry hoover still has like 200years in the state that that he
has to answer for.
Now.
Excellent move by trump.
Now some people saying theydon't understand why he done it
or whatever.
He's put it the way I see it,maybe I'm wrong, but the way I
see it he's put, he's moving thechessboard to say, okay, your
(36:49):
move now.
Because right there in illinois, chicago, illinois, you got
Governor Pritzker there.
Now, the 200 years that LarryHoover got with the state, the
only way, because he's not goingto get out, even though the
feds are going to let him go,he's going to go right to the
(37:10):
state and the only way he canget around that if that governor
there Pritzker gives him aparty, a full party, and he
would be free.
Now the reason why this isimportant?
Because you know, right therein Chicago the black population
(37:33):
is very upset with theDemocratic Party, to where they
got a movement there called uh,flipping chicago red right
because of the, the, whatbrandon that may have done to
that city of chicago, of um let,with the, the illegal immigrant
thing, and how do you have theblack population very upset?
(37:56):
And it would behoove them.
It would behoove them to thinkabout seriously, think about
pardoning Larry Hoover becauseof the damage that Brandon
Johnson has done and he has theDemocratic numbers in the
dumpster.
His numbers are in the dumpsterand the morale of the city is
(38:17):
in the dumpster.
His numbers are in the dumpsterand the morale of the city is
in the dumpster.
Letting Larry Hoover out wouldreally give the Democrats a kind
of boost that I think theywould need, or even I think they
should even consider theimplications of what may be
(38:43):
possible.
If they let Hoover out, couldhe be a help to the community
Because he's no longer a threat?
The man is 70, what?
74 years old.
He's no more a threat.
He's an old man now.
Maybe he has some cachet in thestreet with some of the street
(39:03):
dudes there.
I don't know.
Usually, when guys have beenaway that long and have, you
know, been away from the actionthat long, they don't really
have sway with the streetsanymore.
People.
You know some of the gangstersstill respect their OG status
and you know they'll be able to,you know, get by or whatever
(39:25):
like that.
But as far as any kind of swayor any pull, any kind of
influence, I'm not sure if thatis there as it once was.
Of course it's not there whenhe was running around in society
.
That kind of influence has beengone because he's been away for
so long, but he may still beable to help some of the youth
(39:47):
there.
That's possible.
So it would behoove them tothink about, to seriously think
about pardoning him in the state, because Trump has put the move
.
The put the move on them now.
Okay, I did this.
Now, what y'all gonna do, andit's this would be good at the
black vote.
So it's gonna be interesting tosee what's going on with this
(40:08):
thing and, like, as I said,we're not gonna stay.
We wasn't up here to stay long.
Family wasn't up here to staylong.
We're gonna get ready to getout of here.
I'm let you go on with your dayand, in the words of malik, you
must respect life, love justice, cherish freedom and treasure
the peace.
Y'all, go in peace and keep thepeace and come back and see us.
Come back and see us peace.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Thank you, we'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
You got to give the people.
Give the people what they want.
Well, well, well, well, don'tyou know you?
You got to give the people.
Give the people what they want.
(41:28):
Well, I've been all over theworld.
Speaker 8 (41:38):
And everybody feels the same.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
It's a unanimous decision.
I said we're ready for change.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't youknow?
You can give the people whatthey want.
Well, don't you know?
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