Die Hard 2: Die Harder 1990 (Season Three Finale!)

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and welcome everybody to another exciting. Well, actually not just another exciting episode

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like any other just episode. This is our season three finale of fried rice podcast. I'm your
host Andy Rice with me. Oh, this is fried rice podcast. Let's get fried. I don't know
what you guys are saying. You might want to go here first while he coughs his lungs up.
Well, killed me to start the season finale. He switched from trying to kill Mike trying

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to kill me now. Yeah. Well, I season four special. Yeah. The death of Brennan. That's
our turn. Right. It's a turn. The turn is because it's less punching down. I feel because
Brennan's got his whole life ahead of him. You're like one heart attack away from us
from a lot of these episodes becoming very funny in an ironic way for like a very specific

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group of audience who goes like, oh, shit, this guy dies at one point. Let's listen to
all the times Andy talks about him dying before he actually does. Anyway, sorry. With me as
always is the guy who I'm now trying to kill by coughing alone is our boy Brennan.
Don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't

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shiply up to Boston. Hello, everybody. With me as always is Mike, who again, you're listening
to this in the future and he's no longer with us. Ha ha. I guess you're so fucking sadistic.
Whoever you are. Michael Larson, everybody. Hey, everybody. Hopefully we're on like season
30 by them. Yeah. Season. Well, the way we do our seasons. We're going to be on season

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30. That might be next year. Four years from now.
Damn it, Brennan really wants you gone. I've just been vague with it. I forgot what season
we're on. Yeah. And again, this is our season three finale. This is going to be the last
one hopefully that is just recorded and just audio. We're going to do some fun stuff starting

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with our next season, which is going to open with the first user submitted movie, which
we'll get to at the end of this at the end of this episode. So let's jump into it. Yeah.
Right. It's wrecked. It's good. It's good. The rest of that bong looks for you. OK, I

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just well, then this brings us perfectly naturally into our segment. What are we smoking? Cue
music. I don't know. I don't have music. I'll just write it down anyway. So I was surprised
you did edit that one episode at the end that the Christmas Chronicles. I did. Surprise.

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Yeah. Did we keep it PG? Did you listen to it again? Was it like not why skip to the
end because I wanted to hear if you did. Yeah, it might have been worth nothing. There could
have been a moment in the in that episode where we're talking about porn again and then
like I don't know before the episode. Yeah, I don't think we were. I think like at least
one of our we were actually commenting on how it was one of our cleanest episodes until

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the end. Well, until beep boop. Yeah. So Brennan's dying. I guess I'll talk about what is killing
him. And it's this ounce I picked up, you know, it's called iced jokers. I got it from
Marvin's Mary J. It was on sale. I guess she was having, you know, one of Cheryl was having
one of her. Cool deals that she does. She's like really cool about it. Testing at 40 percent,

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40.7. We were looking at it while you were out when you were out the kitchen. We were
looking at it. It's like I flipped it upside down and just watched the snow fall down.
Yeah. Yeah, it's cool. It's got like it's infused and it's pretty strong. It's great.
And I love it. And with it, I got a couple of disposables, which I mean, there's a reason

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they were free and then and then but then I guess like four edibles. So it was like a
good it was like a package deal because Cheryl, she's out of her mind when it comes to these
deals, which is great, like good for us as consumers. I don't know how she makes money,
but yeah, well, I mean, I know how she runs a weed store. So she's sure it's all money
over, you know, but but but she's insane. She gives away cars now once a month, like

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on her red ticket event. She's like, yeah, or not maybe not once a month, but two months
in a row, she's just giving away cars. You show up and it's crazy. And then she'll just
you go to her Facebook Live and she's just like, all right, what do we got? She just
walks around her store. She'll pick something up. She's like, all right, edibles. Fuck it.
Three dollars. They're all three dollars. Everything in the fucking stores. Three dollars.

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Let's go. Ounces. They're usually 300 bucks. Hundred bucks today. Let's go. And then she
just yeah. Oh, and then you want an ounce. Fine. Here's some edibles. Here's some some
disposables. Like nowadays, like crazy Eddie or, you know, the crazy. You're killing me,
Larry. Yeah, that's exactly what it is, which we love you, Cheryl. I mean, you're killing

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me, Cheryl. You're killing me, Cheryl. Yeah. So Marvin Mary Jays Needles, California, if
you ever, you know, visiting the Tri-State area and you want some weed, you know, visit
or raise right on that 40 if you're even passing through a lot. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Literally,
if you're coming from California to go to the river for the weekend, hit hit the Laughlin
scene, which is an awesome thing to do if you haven't done it. This is a cool area to

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visit on the weekend for sure. Buy your weed before you get to Laughlin. Laughlin weed,
Nevada made is pricey. It is open 24 7. So you can get some late night. There's been many
times I've been out and like, oh, do I really want to go over there? Maybe for some edibles.
Yeah. Yeah. We've all done it. We've all at the end of our shift driven in Nevada, maybe

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because it's the 24 hour spot. Yeah, it's 15 minutes. It's a little closer than needles.
I'll get in and out over there. That was the worst part of Covid is we used to they used
to all even in needles, they were open till midnight. Yeah. But since Covid they close
at 10 and we always get off too late. I used to go after work all the time to needle. Yeah,
I want Walmart to go back to 24 hours. It's killing. Yeah, that sucks. I've missed my

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2 a.m. shopping with no one else. There's nobody else there. That's the best. Yeah.
Well, Target's open till midnight right now, which is kind of nice, at least on weekends.
I went last night after work. But who goes grocery shopping? Well, I didn't go grocery
shopping. I went for a couple of things, but there was no one in the store. It was fucking
awesome. I was like, yes. 30 to Target. There's nobody there. Man, OK, I can actually look

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around and be like, fuck, what am I looking for? Walmart closes at 11. Yeah. If you go
at 1030, it's still packed. Yeah, it's still packed. But they do not mess around. They're
on that thing every five minutes. We're closed in five minutes. If you're not past the line,
they don't want you in line. You better be checked out, paid for. We're closing at 11,

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guys. Our machines will shut down. I haven't tested either. They swear they shut down
at 11. I don't know who. I'm going to talk to one of my Walmart buddies because I made
a few Walmart buddies now. I love I love the crew there at the specific Walmart, the Bullhead
Walmart. They're so cool. Like all of them are dope. Yeah. And I made a couple of friends
and I'll ask her. She's the one that does the announcements. I have the inside track.

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I know the chick that says because she I always give her I always give her shit for it because
when I walk over, I'm like, well, according to my phone, she's I don't want to hear it
Domino's because I'm always in my uniform. That's how we because I'm a working class
man is this how I make friends with these working class people as well because we all
just we're all in uniform and they are part of the crew at that point. I show up to drive

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throughs or whatever. If you if they see the domino's hat, it's immediately a change in
demeanor where they're like, you want some fucking ranches? I got you, bro. Taco Bell
medium always becomes a large if you're in your Taco Bell. If you're in your Domino's
hat, go to Taco Bell drive thru. They always give you a large instead of a medium. Damn,
they haven't hooked me up. Taco Bell has fucked me. I order up every single time I've gone.

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I've stopped. You have a personal problem with Taco Bell with this with this Taco Bell.
No, not every look. I'm a big Taco Bell guy. I'm a huge and you know how much I want to
experience that new thing they're doing right now, which is throwback menu in seventies
and eighties and nineties menu. Are you kidding me? I want all of it. But I'm sure if I go
in there and order a 90s quesadilla, they're going to give me like a 60s fucking lettuce

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wrap and I'm just. No, no, no. What's the deal? Taco for you. Yeah. Only only the deal
with Del Taco is they get it right and you get it wrong. Yeah. The column and yellow.
OK, wow. And first off, see, I have problems with our Del Taco, too. But OK, but it's
cold nasty food that I hate or or you'll get a chicken soft taco with like two pieces of

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chicken, a shit ton of cheese and like a shrivel of lettuce and then a huge dollop of the sauce.
I'm like, I think that's one of my my inventions I want to do because I have that problem with
all the fast food places. Yeah. You can't. I don't know what it is about their bags.
They must keep them in the freezer. Yeah. Because by the time you get home, which is
three minutes away, your food's ice cold and you're like, but if you eat it there, it's
hot. I don't get it. There hasn't been a moment where I a time that I've gone to Del Taco

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or I haven't just immediately tossed the fries into my air fryer for five minutes. I mean,
it changes. I mean, it makes them perfect. Yeah, it makes them absolutely perfect. Bro,
air fryer. That's what I need to do. Last night, I made crescent rolls, Pillsbury Crescent
rolls in the air fryer ready. It says on the package. I put them on there. Three hundred

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degrees, eight minutes or six minutes. You flip them over for four minutes. They came
out perfect. Crispy, delicious. I made my twice baked horseradish potatoes last night.
Oh, you mother fucker. Look, mother fucker. Look, I was knowing we were coming over today.
I have I have one left. If you guys, you can't have it. If you like to try it. No, I'm OK.

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The problem is, is that I don't think these ones came out as good. I think the horseradish
I used wasn't the right kind. Creamier. Yeah, I was looking for the I like the ground, the
like the actual fresh horseradish. It's it's it's a different vibe. This one was a creamy,
but the extra hot is what sold me. I always like a little kick. So the flavor was there,

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but it's just the texture. I wanted that horseradish texture. So it wasn't perfect. Also, I think
that I broiled instead of baked the second time because every time you after you scoop
all the mushed potatoes back into the potato skins and you put it back in the oven, it
always says eight to 10 minutes every single time I've ever done that on the same temperature

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that I've kept it where I was cooking the potatoes in the first place. I just keep the
oven on and I put them in 10 minutes does nothing. It just keeps the potatoes looking
white. And then by the time I wait 30 minutes, nothing happens. It just doesn't get golden
brown. So this time I'm thinking I saw the word broil on one of the things I'm like,
all right, I'll turn the broiler on after baking the potato. And I did that. And then

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I put them in there. And then they just fucking burnt all the top of the crisp. So the top
got really burnt and crispy. And then but it was almost perfect. So if I find the middle
ground of what I what I think I did is I put them too high up to the rack. I did what I
normally do for Clearman's cheese spread. What I should have done is knocked it down
one rack and had the broiler going. And I think I would have perfected it. So I'll tell

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you the way to do it the way you used to do them in the regular oven. Okay, and spend
15 bucks and get you a little flame. A little torch, a little torch. I've tried torching
torch the top. Yeah, it's not the same. It doesn't it's still kind of burns it a little
bit. Trust me. I think I'm going to it's I've tried these now probably a dozen times in

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my life. They always taste pretty good. But I mean, when you torch it, you don't want
like the flame on it. Look, I know. You don't think I've toasted marshmallows with a flame
thrower. Little things for a flame thrower. You know what I mean? Like like with the with
the torch with the blowtorch. I want to see you do that. That would be kind of cool. Let's

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get that Kickstarter going. Buy me. Get me one of the get me a used Elon Musk flame thrower.
And then we'll just cook different stuff with it. And then coat me in marshmallow and have
somebody flame throw. Oh, God. Flamethrower me. So kill you. Bad idea. Have someone kill
you with a flamethrower. What are you smoking? Yeah. I don't know. Cover you in fluff. You
haven't even hit it yet. I think I think. No, no, no. I think that there's I think that

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if you cover me in enough, if you cover something in enough. No, it becomes marshmallow. It
becomes mold. It's you know, it's marshmallow. But you can't tell you what you can do because
I've done. I just want to be better covered in batter. You've done this. You said, hold
on. Here's something you can do because I've done this. No, I have done this when I was
in high school. I worked at KFC. OK, we stick our hands down in the batter and the oil.

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Pull it up and go right in the fryer. Yeah. And then just just leave it there for maybe
10 seconds. Well, you got like a corn dog arm. It doesn't hurt you at all. All right.
You dream unlocked. No, no one. Now, no one try this at home because we didn't. We were
like, I can't tell you. Let's cover me in batter versus other batter. Let's make an

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Andy Corn Dog. KFC batter back then. You could do it. I'm not speaking for today. This is
40 years ago. Yeah, I don't know anything. So don't try this at home. Now it's all liquidy
and doesn't stick. There's like one dude who 40 years ago was telling everybody he knew
is like, I swear to God, I saw one of those people in that fucking KFC stick his arm in

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the batter and put it in the fryer. That's why I never eat at KFC again in my life. It's
like, no, that never fucking happened. No, it definitely happened. It was. Yeah. So we're
smoking that bread and brought some joints. What are we smoking? It's turning into what
do we eat? Yeah, exactly. Hungry. I brought pre-rolled grizzly peak. I got it from THC.

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Big Steve O.G. is the strain. Those are pretty good. I got Snoop O.G. by I want to say it's
Cali Buds. It's been pretty good. Does it have a picture of Snoop? It has a picture,
kind of an AI picture of Snoop with two bags of weed in the joint. So it's his brand. That's

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what I was saying. Yeah. Well, I don't know if I don't think it's his brand. It's Cali
Buds. You don't think he's going to sue the hell out of them? It's his strain. He's got
a strain named after him. So, yeah. So interesting. So if it's a strain and you buy Snoop O.G.,
you have to call it Snoop O.G. Yeah. Right. So like if he sells Snoop O.G., it's not,
it doesn't maybe have to necessarily go through his own company. I think when you put his

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picture on that thing, I think you better give him some damn money. Well, I think that's
why it's an AI generated. You could just put knockoff picture. Like black dude with this
specific hairstyle and then holding up two bags of weed and then just this is the name
of the weed. Just like they had a, what was it? Obama O.G. was one of them. Right. Like
you could do an AI Obama. I don't think, and I feel like it's okay. Right. Because it's

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just the name of the strain was different a little bit, but also the snoops, the celebrity
we could literally make a strand of weed and call it Christian Bale O.G. Well, if you can
do that, that means I can make a breakfast cereal and call it whoever I want to. But
it needs different because it's a, like a plant strain or whatever. Like that's, they

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haven't set the regulations. Yeah, it's in the roads. Oats aren't plants. No, but I don't,
I feel like there aren't, no, but I feel like there aren't regulations. That's what I'm
saying. It's because the FDA is not a part of it. I don't know. But it's not the FDA
that would do that. That would be you suing for, you know, using your, yeah. That's not,
that's not really, I understand, legality wise. But look at Skywalker O.G. It's one
of the most popular brands of all time. You don't think George Lucas makes money on that,

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no. But Skywalker is a hundred percent his invention. They're naming it after Luke Skywalker,
a character that he made. And they just, and, but, and you're saying. If they put a picture
of Luke Skywalker on there, it becomes an issue. Sure. But how many fucking Skywalker
things is there like a lightsaber or something that looks like a lightsaber or whatever?
Because Skywalker is just like a name. It's not a. But people use direct Star Wars, like

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not direct, but. But you're using an example kind of like Kleenex and you can, it's like
Kleenex has already lost that suit because it became part of the lexicon. So anything
that becomes part of the lexicon, you can use. OK, but. Like for example Kleenex, you can,
you know, you can just say, get me Kleenex. It doesn't mean you're calling out the brand.

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Well, technically. I guess, yeah. But that, but when I say Kleenex, I specifically mean Kleenex
because otherwise I'd say hand me a picture. Because I know that there's a difference.
Well, isn't that special? It's been one of those. It's been one of those issues.
It's been one of those. I've got you say tissue tissue tissue or napkins. Yeah. Yeah.

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Because it's one of those things that people have talked about for so long. It's like Kleenex is
the brand name and tissue is what it is. Or Coke or Q-tip. It's kind of lost its its brand.
You lose your brand identity if it becomes a well, like Q-tip. Yeah. Q-tips. Yeah. Off-brand
Q-tips. But Coke, I feel like Pepsi and RC, there's so many other contenders to Coke that Coke,

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but then also I want to go get a Coke might not necessarily mean Coke. Coca-Cola. Soda. Soda.
But that's also, I think, just this side of the country. True. Because other people call it pop
or soda in other parts of the country. Yeah. Midwest is pop. South is Coke. Yeah. South is Coke for any drink.
I'm sure someone says soda. You know, some sort of, some sort of accent. Well, my wife was watching

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some reality TLC show of some sort and it was like these people in Utah. Like, I don't know if they're,
if it's like a Mormon thing or what, I don't know what. It's like a Mormon dating show or some,
some dating show. And she was, you know, I kind of caught a part of it and like their main thing
they like to do instead of going to coffee shops, go to soda shops. They have giant soda shops. Yeah.
And they're like, oh, this is my soda order. They do two pumps of this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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So it's like they treat like Starbucks, but it's not Starbucks. It's soda shops. And I'm like,
what the fuck? Like that's, I like soda. I love soda, but like I just drink Coke or whatever is
available. Yeah. They have things called dirty sodas and different, different names for sodas.
I would go check it out. I would check it out. Yeah. It's cool. Yeah. It sounds like fun. I wish we had one,
but I don't know if I'd be there every day. Like I don't go to Dutch Bros every day. Right. Like I

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make coffee at home. Like, wait, but I thought Mormons weren't allowed to have caffeine, but
they're non-caffeinated. No, they're allowed caffeine. They're only not allowed either coffee
or tea or whatever. Coffee or tea. Certain stimulants. It's not because of the stimulants.
It has some, it's some weird thing. I don't know what it is because they're, because they actually
own like Pepsi. So, okay. So if you support Pepsi, you're supporting the Mormon, you're the Latter-day

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Saints. So, okay. Cool. It's all companies. It's not, yeah. Yeah. But also they go hard on soda.
Apparently. That sounds fun. Yeah. Yeah. They're the, they're the coolest cult. That's what I would say.
The coolest cult. Okay, Mike, don't alienate an entire religion. That's not, I'm saying I like them. I love them.
If I was going to be religious, that's the religion I would choose. They're all cool.

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Yeah. They're nice, friendly people. Yeah. They're friendly. They help their, they help people.
They're not, they're, they're actually charitable. They do all the right stuff. Yeah. So I know that
here's one of those things. So is this considered racism now? No, no, no. Hear me out before you say
anything. And I'm not even trying to call you out. It's just, well, but there's enough now

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that they, there's like something called like the Mormon face. So there absolutely is enough genetic
gene pool there to like almost create another race. If you're thinking of like, I don't know,
this is probably tricky, but it's like, if our Jewish people, another race of people of like,
are they their own race or is it just religion? You could also maybe apply that to Mormons.
Christianity is too big of a blanket. So that's just like its own thing. But by saying all these

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things, Mormons are so nice. They're so friendly. They're so charitable are all very nice things
to say about people, but so, but so is Asian people are so good at math. Black people are so
good at sports. Yeah. It's stereotypes. That's what I'm saying. No, no, no. Their stereotypes
are just good stereotypes. But no, well, there's good and there's bad stereotypes. But the thing
is every, every pocket of, but it's, but I, I mean, I agree that it's not good to generalize.

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Exactly. So that's what I'm saying. Is this a form, like even right now saying Mormon people
are so kind and so, and so nice or whatever generalization, it feels like a nice racist remark.
It depends on how sensitive you are. No, well, I'm sure I'm not trying to be sensitive. That
might be a little overly sensitive. You're saying, Oh, I like this group. I'm not offended. I'm just,
I'm just try to think of this as like, it could be considered offensive because like, I'm sure

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Asian people don't like hearing how good they are or how good I'm sure most Asian people don't want
to hear all the time. You're so, aren't you supposed to be good at math? Like if you met a Mormon person
who, like a real everyday Mormon person just living their fucking life and they weren't living up to
your expectations of being as polite and kind as you anticipate them to be because of the, the stuff

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you might say something like, well, aren't you Mormon? Aren't you supposed to be nice or whatever?
Or a rude Canadian. I think in usage that would be kind of rude. Yeah. Or what'd you say? A rude Canadian.
Yeah. So you're saying that us saying Canadians are nice is racist. Well, it's stereotyping. It is.
I'm sure Canadians hate- In the same way. Yeah. I'm sure Canadians hate watching us white, hate seeing

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every lame attempt at going like, oh, eh, oh, I'll hold the door open for you. Eh, even I make fucking
stupid jokes about polite Canadians in my standup. Like it's, it's so hack. It's like a hack thing.
Like I'm sure most Canadians think of other Canadians just like we think of other people as
fucking assholes. I know you, you live in Montreal. I've seen South Park. Yeah, sure. Well, that's,

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that's their Canada episodes are great. I'm not your buddy guy. Yeah. I like when they go to Canada
for their Wizard of Oz episode. Yeah. No, but I think just like regular human society, if I lived
in Montreal, I would probably dislike 80% of the people. Just like I dislike 80% of most people here.
And it's not, when I say dislike, it's like not wanting to get to know, not, not like I just dislike.

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Not actively dislike. But it's just- What I can say from the Canadian people that I have met
and have gotten to know is they've all told me that most Canadians hate French Canadians
and French Canadians hate all other Canadians. Yeah. So there's, there's, yeah, there's, there's that.
Sure seems like a polite society to me with apartheid. Yeah. Yeah. They say the French

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Canadians are rude. That's why they don't like them. They don't like them because they're rude.
That's right. Because they're rude. Yeah, exactly. What a fucking generalization. Canadians are polite.
Just like- But, but I'll tell you something else. That's like Germans. Yeah. People say the same
stuff about Germans. They say they're rude, but it has more to do with their language and the inflections
than it does- It sounds intense.... actually what they say. Wait, but I don't think people say
Germans are rude because- Oh, no. I think- No, they do. No, no, no. I think post 1980s, 1990s,

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Germany has, since World War II, after World War II, when they finally got their, when they finally
got a government that was like acknowledged the fact that they fucked up in World War II,
and they started moving forward from that, it's changed. Like when I went to Berlin in different
parts of Germany, it's one of the most, if I'm going to generalize, like they seemed like a very
nice and friendly and open like people, which- Bastard. Yeah. It is. No, no, no. See how weird

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your whole point is, though. It's kind of weird. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's different to say,
I think, when I visited somewhere, everyone was friendly and nice to me. As opposed to-
All the Mormons I've met are nice. Yeah. Well, you just said more, I think you said Mormons in
general are nice. Because I've generalized my experience. Yeah. I agree with you. Mormons
generally are nice and they're friendly from all the ones I've met as well. But- They always try

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to invite you to their church and- Yeah. Yeah. But also it's, they give me like homeschool vibes.
Yes. You know, like someone who's been homeschooled- See, now that's racist. Yeah. Yeah.
That's a little- Oh, wait. Sorry, sorry. Yeah, wait a minute. Here's the thing. I never said-
I never said- I said all these nice things and I'm the racist one. He's over here.
Just because I can acknowledge it doesn't mean I don't behave in the same behavior. I'm just aware

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of it, I guess, is also the- Yeah. Imagine the hell I'm living in in my head where I-
Your day-to-day life wakes up, looks in the mirror. I'm a monster. I'm a monster, yet there's nothing
I can do about it. Because you're absolutely right. I think Mormons, most Mormons, besides my buddy
Joseph, who he broke away and had a really cool, like he followed the Grateful Dead for a year.

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Almost like a rumspringer. He had a rumspringer. Yeah. And his rumspringer was awesome. And that's
when we really got to hang out and do some cool shit. But what was great about that, and maybe
I shouldn't have said his name. Anyway, Joseph, the most popular name of all of Mormonism, so it's fine.
He was, he did like a year and a half, maybe two years. He like hooked up with a chick. It was

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awesome. Like he had a great time. He did shrooms all the time. He was just living life. We hang out.
We were at, we're doing, I think we're just smoking weed. Maybe we did some shrooms or whatever. But then
we start listening to, who are those two guys? Hello Darkness, my old friend. Simon and Garfunkel.

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We listened to that album. And that song's great. But then it gets really religious. It's really
like, Lord, I fucked up. Like, you know, whatever. Oh, with the head full of mushrooms. Oh God. So he
was sitting there and he just starts crying. And I'm like, what's going on? He's like, I messed up,
man. And the next day back to the church. So he's back with it. I don't know what happened from then,

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but we just lost our Mormon fan base. Maybe. I stood up for you in the beginning. I don't think we had any.
Yeah, I don't think we did either. Why would you listen to this? And that was our, what are we smoking?
What are we smoking? Slash political views. Slash everything. So yeah, fuck it. Last year,
if you listened to our episode, it was our season one finale. I think it was season one. I don't know.

(26:53):
I think season one finale was diehard. And then we didn't do anything for season two finale.
Fuck you. And then now it's our season three finale. So with tradition,
it's our new tradition. We're going to continue this. We say, as we always continue everything we
say we're going to do, we're going to continue on through all of the diehards, right? Well, on a season finale.

(27:15):
Yeah, if we make it to season 30, Mike's death five years from now, well, but yeah, no, we're going to,
we're going to continue to review the diehards as we move forward. But today it's diehard two, dieharder.
Is that, did it say it in the credits? It did not say it in the credits, but it is on the bottom of the box.

(27:39):
Yeah. Dieharder. Yeah. So I don't know if they added that later. Yeah. Tagline. Yeah. So it's just diehard two with the tagline dieharder.
Great. I didn't know it took place in Washington, D.C. Yeah. That's cool.
I immediately was like, oh, it's the airport one. I remember now because it's probably the one I watched the least

(28:00):
because really it's one of the better ones. Yeah. Well, my favorite is three. Of course. This is my second favorite.
But I like one a lot. I like one a lot too. And I like three. And then these are tough. It's one of the only branches you can think of
where you go, everybody kind of is like, which one's best? Back to the future is a great sign. You know, that's that means
they're all really good. I'd say this and Back to the Future are the two that are like that for me. It's like, it just depends on my mood.

(28:26):
Well, until you get to like some of the later ones. Yeah. After the first three. Then after that, it's kind of I mean, the first one, what is it?
Live? No. What was the first one? Fourth one was was live free, diehard and a good day to diehard. I think live free and diehard was the one that was OK.
But then a good day to diehard was terrible. What his son changes, I know, like actors, right? Like it goes from whoever was hot at the time to whoever was hot at the time.

(28:55):
Yeah, as the as the guy because I think just was just along his son or was he just someone he was just a house, his daughter's boyfriend or something.
Yeah, something like that. Yeah. But did he have a son in that, though?
I don't remember. I guess that was the last thing I'd find out in two years. Yeah.
So I love when cops hold each other accountable. I love that. So when John parks in front of the airport, he gets a ticket.

(29:22):
And I love that. I watch videos of that exclusively on YouTube of like, cop gets arrested by other cop because I'm just like, yeah, hold each other accountable if they break the law.
Yeah, it should have been more. Yeah. I mean, honestly, if you're breaking the law, yeah, they should be held to the same, you know, standards as everyone else.
A lot of Christmas music playing for this Christmas movie. Oh, yeah, right away. It's Christmas. It came out on July 4th.

(29:44):
Yeah, it did come out in July 4th. It came out on July 4th. It's hilarious. The trailer came out at Christmas.
Yeah. But yeah, I could it is kind of like a America movie, though. It's like fight terrorists, you know, like.
So I get the July 4th vibe, but it is a Christmas movie. It definitely is right away. First five minutes.

(30:05):
You're like, yeah, it's Christmas. You got some fucking Christmas music playing Christmas decorations.
Everybody's traveling for Christmas. It's got it's more planes, trains and automobiles vibe, but more Christmas than Thanksgiving.
It's like a planes, trains and automobile had a sequel. It would be die hard to.

(30:30):
So if I oh, if I looked like that dude, I would do naked yoga every day of my life.
What an interesting choice to start this movie. I thought for the longest time that that was the.
Ready in the morning. It is that the only scene that made this rated R because there's no language in the.

(30:52):
They say fuck so many times. Do you think if this came out today, it would be rated R? Yeah.
Yeah, the fucks. Yeah. You're only allowed one fuck and a PG 13. Oh, is that right? Yeah.
One or two. One. I don't know. Maybe they've increased it to two, but you're allowed one fuck and a PG 13.
That's it. And then I think you're a brief nudity, I think, at PG 13. Maybe some titties.

(31:12):
So I think that would have been this would have been OK. Yeah, it was just kind of a little butt cheeks.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was I don't think that really would have they rated to that would have been PG 13.
Whatever. But yeah, he ripped dude and he's just do naked.
I thought that was the opening to Apocalypse Now. And I don't there's another there's a scene in Apocalypse Now like that in the beginning.

(31:34):
But it's not the open. It's I guess it's like during the opening monologue where he's like talking about what he's doing and he's drunk in his room.
He has pants on, I think. And at one point he ends up naked.
Yeah. But at the point when he's naked, he's like in the corner.
It's after he's like punched a mirror and he's bleeding and like, yeah, he's all fucked up.

(31:54):
OK. But in my mind, I've always mixed those two up. Yeah.
That one's got the the Caterpillar 60s song, the White Rabbit.
Oh, Jefferson Airplane. There you go. Yeah. It's got that song.
Wait, no, no, that's that's cream. Yeah.
For all that scene, I did not find this villain. That menacing.

(32:17):
Menace, which it makes it even more menacing if you think about it, because here's the thing.
He's it's real easy to point at a Hans Gruber or or his brother or his brother.
The third one, which I think they realized the mistake that they made where it's like we needed a
we needed a Hans Gruber, which we didn't get.

(32:38):
But I think it's actually a little scarier because.
If you look at all the movies, probably even the later ones,
this one has the highest kill count of civilians,
like at least 230 people die in that airplane, which is tragic. Right.
And I think and you see like John McClane react to that in a fucking tragic way.

(32:59):
He's shell shocked from it for like a decent little part of the movie.
Like, that's serious.
And that's because there was a guy that's not fucking around.
He he's doing his job perfectly. More military.
He doesn't want more doing his job.
He doesn't care about John McClane other than he's a nuisance,
other than he's getting in his way. Right.

(33:19):
It's like he doesn't need to have a cat mouse. Yeah, it's not personal.
He's not robbing anything.
He's doing this for a military, for a personal agenda.
And that was also the first one to Hans Gruber had that kind of same mentality.
Like he wasn't it wasn't a vendetta against John McClane.
No, he respected. He ended up respecting John at the end. Yeah.
But they had a back and forth. Yes.
This one we did. They had a talk once.

(33:42):
And that's that's about it.
And then a fight at the end.
But that's all we needed. This guy was just ruthless efficiency.
And I like that, like really ruthless efficiency.
Oh, we lost our guy. What was that?
Everything was timing.
Everything was timing military time, which I will say.
And the other the other military guy at the end. Yeah.
It's more scary to me.

(34:03):
The general, the general, because he's he like he was a turn.
He was a true turn. Yeah.
The other guy's a bad guy.
Oh, the other the other.
We're talking about the special, the counter.
You're talking about Jack Jack Bauer, Black Jack Bauer.
Black Jack. Yeah.
Because he's part of the counterterrorist unit that gets sent.
Yes. To me, he's a scarier character because of the turn.

(34:25):
Yeah. And because of the way he interacts with John.
Well, because you don't see like your first watcher, you don't see it coming.
You know, and then you don't catch.
Well, you don't really catch the blue and the red until you're like,
you know, it's coming. Like then you're like, OK.
I think even the first time I watched it, I was like,
I was a kid. I don't know.
The moment they oh, I mean, maybe not the first time,

(34:46):
but the moment I was like when I watched this is like with a clear, clear view.
Yeah. I remember the line of the the kid, the new guy that sits down.
Well, I just joined the unit.
The one guy got sick and I just started and then followed up with.
Well, yeah. Wasn't he part of your like when when John looks at him suspiciously,
like he was part of your unit, wasn't he?

(35:07):
It's like, yeah, I taught him everything he knows.
I was like, oh, so you're the bad guy.
Maybe he's learned a few things. So you guys are working together.
So you showed up of all the counterterrorist units in all the fucking world.
How quickly did they show up? Think about that.
They must have been right around the corner.
Like I know they're in Washington, D.C., but like this bad weather, like they.

(35:27):
How long did it take them to get there? Five minutes.
I don't know. It's all a little bit suspect.
But also, well, definitely the part that gives it away is when
the chief of the police station there is on the phone with with the with the guy
that the technician guy that was with John McClain at the church
and he's given the address, they just grab the paper and it's like, all right,
we got it. And like, you know, conversation whatsoever.

(35:50):
You know, just like, all right, here we go.
I don't remember that part.
It was quick. OK, super quick. The upside down fact. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Well, then that that would have given it away. Yeah.
I put a. Hey, they mentioned that he has children, which I like.
I don't think they mentioned that in the first one.
They did. Oh, John McClain. Yeah.
Yeah, they go to the kids house.

(36:12):
That's why the do we see the kids in the first one?
Yeah, briefly in the housekeeper.
That's you know, that's why the mom hates the newscaster guy.
Why? I forgot all about the newscaster guy because he went to
he went to their house and then told the housekeeper that was there was like,
I'm going to call I.S. unless you let me in and like was like filming everything.
And he's the one that like let it out on the plane.

(36:34):
Then he's on the plane. He's from. Yeah. Got it. OK.
So I forgot about that, about his.
I remember that he was I remember them not getting along.
I just forgot why. I guess it's been a minute. Yeah.
They have a great back and forth.
They've been the him and Holly throughout him getting.
It's like I have to be 50 yards from her.
And then the weight, the stewardess coming up and like,

(36:55):
can I get you a champagne?
That's just so good.
I tried. What was it?
A I tried it out on my dog.
Oh, my God. Poor thing.
Lived for a week. Just fell down laughing.
First of all, first of all, it's one of the things about this movie.
This movie has so many weird scenes like that.
Like like this lady just walks on a fucking plane with a taser.

(37:16):
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, that's one of my notes is so three, three, nine, 11 airport.
Yeah. How about pre anytime?
Yeah. Guns in the airport, smoking in the airport, smoking in the airport.
I was like, oh, that note too about smoking.
How hazy the plane was. Oh, geez. All of it.
There's this this movie as if you were to sit down and look at this movie,

(37:39):
the writing in this movie for those kinds of things.
Yeah, it's so bad.
But it's still such a great movie.
It doesn't matter. But it was a different time, though.
It was a different time.
This was the what it was probably a lot easier to actually get through security
with weapons and things like that.
He did mention ceramic pistols and stuff. They didn't have X-ray. Yeah.

(38:00):
They was just metal detectors and one dude probably watching
you to see if there was anyone of color. Yes.
But the Taser was metal.
Mostly, yeah, the Taser was metal.
Yeah, that was metal.
The Taser. But it was also a plane.
Old white lady in pre 9-11.
Remember, they used to let people bring I got a hip on airplanes.
I got a hip replacement on planes.

(38:21):
Then trust me, you couldn't get a Taser on a plane.
I I some old lady in her purse is not going to Taser on a plane.
It was ceramic, Mike. OK.
She got it from the same metal tips made out of what metal?
That's not detectable by the metals.
It was a tiny. Well, you know what?
Honestly, Mike, real quick.

(38:41):
Old lady walks in with a bag.
It beeps the metal.
Oh, it's just my little things.
And the guys like, oh, well, you're white. You're OK.
Go on through, lady.
Did I just is that not wrong?
So pre 9-11 airport. Yeah.
There's one guy. She's white.
She's getting through.
Now, if she was any other color than you're right.

(39:03):
No Taser gets on, Mike.
And that's the racist society that we lived in the 90s in Washington, D.C.
Did. And then I put a oh, code name Buckwheat.
OK, fun.
One of the dudes and then really savage kill
of that really sweet guy that runs the daycare church,

(39:25):
who's just in there, the old man.
I was like, this movie's pretty dark because he's standing there.
He's like, I feel like I'm dying along with this church.
And then. OK, so so it's like you're right.
And it kills you. Right.
What a big move.
Yeah. What a fucking asshole.

(39:47):
Was he I bet you didn't even didn't even have orders.
It's like, you know, we could probably just if we just convinced the guy
that we're just we work for there, we could probably know.
They would have had to set up a whole thing.
So they would have had to kill them at some point.
But but the whole it's like this, the premise, that premise,
just setting that up, that whole thing.
This movie's ridiculous.

(40:07):
That OK, if you are on an airplane, this happens all the time.
The towers go down. It happens constantly.
Fly to another fucking airport.
They don't have to fly to another airport.
Another tower just picks it up.
You cannot. This whole thing of taking the whole thing is impossible.
Or there's only one control tower.
I have a radio at my house. I can talk to airplanes.

(40:30):
OK, but I'm just saying the whole thing is ridiculous.
When they went to that church and dug up the backyard.
For what I'm assuming was all the hours of real time
to get the Internet working in early 90s. Yeah.
That's days.
I think you're making my point. Yes. Yeah.
I at that point, I think you got it.

(40:53):
What they probably made.
Was like jammers, like jammers.
I'm sure they put a radius of like 10 miles around the place,
which might be doable, 10 miles.
That's all you really need.
Jammer. That's what I'm saying. You don't unless you're jammed.
Because they weren't jamming the aircraft.
They were jamming the tower.

(41:14):
Well, they can talk to you.
So you'd have to go.
No, you'd have to go thousands of miles.
That's what I'm saying.
It's impossible.
It's completely impossible right now.
There's a snowstorm in New York.
But there was several snowstorms.
LA can pick that up.
I think that's what I'm saying.
Maybe today.
No, even then. Sure.

(41:35):
Air traffic control is not changing.
I'm going to believe that the movie in this whatever,
like in Die Hard Universe, which we see.
OK, well, you're then in the next movie when they
you're going to question that there's that there's two chemicals
that can mix together that like can blow up a whole school if it's just too.
No, that exists.

(41:56):
I don't think I don't think it does, but I think it's made up magic bullshit.
And you just got to this is me telling you, Mike, it's a movie.
I know that's hilarious.
I'm just taking Andy's normal tack and he's attacking it.
It's hilarious. Oh, shit.
Well, no, I just think that that's that's a that's a little bit.
Make it turn for season three. That's a bit. Yeah.

(42:17):
That's nitpicky. 37 second hand grenades.
Yeah, they took forever.
Oh, the hand grenades. I'll give you.
I'm sorry. Those things for this movie's full of long enough.
We get buckled in.
I love it. I don't care. Yeah.
I think it's funny. It is.
It is all the one line comedy.
At that point, it's just like there's just there's no ejector seats in those planes.

(42:38):
It's it's your line, Mike. They don't exist.
It's slapstick. But I'm going to use it's a workplace comedy, Andy.
I don't think we have enough fans that have listened to enough episodes
for any of that to pay off. Yeah.

(42:58):
I feel like.
No, but but I do.
I will say this.
This movie, the Die Hard universe is proving that it's
it's like an alternate reality of our own kind of deal,
because it's like the same thing with the Pulp Fiction world.
It's like cops don't it's very simple reactive.
Yeah. You know, to situations in a way that they should be.

(43:21):
Like what he pulls up the gun and shoots.
Clay with when McLean pulls up the machine gun machine
and unloads an entire clip and there's 10 fucking cops around. Yeah.
Yeah. That would probably not happen.
Also, just the very beginning was in the luggage room
and there's they have a shootout and no.
And then the cops show up a few minutes later.

(43:42):
Hey, so he said he showed you his ID.
He's let him in here.
And your badge. Yeah.
I understand maybe not everyone in the airport hears the gunshots, but
someone does somebody somebody.
I like how that the steamroller was steam powered.
No, though, the conveyor belt, the conveyor belt was steam powered.
Was it? You know, it's all the steam shooting up in the.

(44:05):
Maybe it was.
Yeah, there was that whole room was full of steam. Yeah.
I this is where I made my first note.
Funny steam powered conveyor belt.
Let's visit all the places in the airport.
So that's just that's let's just like they have they're using airport as
their set. Let's see how many places they visit.
First one was baggage claim. Check. I have more later.

(44:28):
He even calls it out.
McLean calls it out in the movie. What?
Another elevator, another basement calls it out. Yeah.
No, but I'm seeing how many different places in the airport we visit.
And we visit a lot.
Poor John McLean just wants a normal Christmas. Yeah.
Yeah. Why does this keep happening?
Why does this keep happening?

(44:49):
Because cool, cool intimidation trick
when the general puts the gun against his dude's head and he's like,
yeah, well, you fucked up or pulls the trigger.
There's no bullet.
Here's what I don't understand.
Now, I know that I'm first off, why does he have an empty gun?
That doesn't make sense for him to have an empty gun.

(45:10):
Like he puts it back in his holster, like he has an empty gun.
It does him no good having that gun on him.
Well, he only he only pulled the hammer, didn't he?
He didn't cock it, so he didn't he didn't load around.
You have around. There still can be bullets in it.
Yeah, that's the way they work.
I guess. But OK, so let's let's assume that's what happened.
But also, I know that I often say that purposes for what training purposes.

(45:36):
Sure. But I but for I often say that
you say that's a training method. Yeah.
Shooting a bad dog. Yeah.
Kaylee at work has been using
like when I go somewhere that I'm not supposed to go, it's like, no, no.
Bad dog. Get over here.
It's been working and that's the problem.

(46:00):
But he.
What was I going to say?
So he uses that tactic on him.
What I know that I argue that goons should be good goons
and that you should always follow your master, whatever, or your leader
or the head of the organization when you're a goon in these types of movies.
But that does not include

(46:22):
when you're when your guys when the leader is about to kill you
because there is a self-preservation.
Yes. Self-preservation.
You you are not you don't owe him your life.
You owe him your life in the service of combat or whatever the fuck
you need to go do.
You go fight some heroes or whatever, go fight some heroes.
And if you die, you die.

(46:43):
But that's the reward.
That's the risk reward that you're that you're taking on as a goon.
When he puts a gun to your head, you pull one out.
And there's three bullets in his chest and you've moved out of the way. Right.
And then everyone looks at you and they go, what the fuck?
And you're like, well, he just tried to kill me.
And then, you know, you made me get in a shootout with them.
That's what happens.
But you don't let him pull the fucking trigger.

(47:05):
That was some bullshit.
Like, I just think that was one of the as a goon.
Stand up for yourself sometimes.
I don't know. I have a weird stance on.
I guess the captain scene is funny, like, like what a bad captain, not
oh, like the captain of the police, like
them having the back and forth in the station.

(47:25):
But like, he's a shitty police officer for not closing down that section of the airport.
You talk about Sibulitz.
Sibulitz, is that his name?
Is that the name in this? Never mind.
It's not something else.
It's something else.
Yeah. But either Hills Free Blues or one of those pop shows.
Oh, you're talking about
NYPD Blue.
You see his ass.

(47:46):
Yeah. It was the first ass on TV.
Yeah, that's right.
And his wife.
Sorry. No, I think his wife had the first nudity on TV, too.
I think his wife had the first nudity on television.
Also, I don't know. Really? Yeah.
That's a good little tidbit of trivia you knew there, Andy.
First ass on TV was his.
Yeah. You were certain about it, too.

(48:07):
I was. I am.
I've seen it. I've seen it.
Yeah. I specifically looked it up.
Just one of those weird things.
My dad, I think, has all the NYPD Blues on DVD.
He really liked that show.
And then, you know, you just see these things.
The the pilots moving the the
drug general guy are way too chill when those jets leave.

(48:32):
Oh, hey, our escort, our F16 escorts are leaving.
It's a call. That's fine.
We're only three and a half hours away from the airport.
So what I remember that for some other reason, so I.
I didn't have my my Hulu.
I need to redo my Hulu subscription, so I just
rented it on Prime last night, 4K version or whatever.
But I remember when I watched this movie when I was younger,

(48:54):
I could have sworn there were subtitles for what the pilots say
after the planes leave, like, oh, we lost our escort.
Like, it's OK. We're only there was no subtitles.
There's no subtitles. No, there was.
Because I'm like, why the fuck do we get to know what they're saying?
Yeah. I was like, what the hell?
Like, I remember what they said and like, I know what they say.
But like, wait, I heard them.
You heard them in Spanish.
You saw the subtitle, right?
I heard them in English.
Oh, they were in English. The pilots.

(49:16):
What I heard them say, I mean, or whatever.
I maybe I read it.
Were you smoking of that when you were watching?
No, but they literally they literally say they literally say like,
oh, hey, our escorts are gone.
Oh, no worries. We're only three and a half hours away from the airport.
Yeah, they say in Spanish.
Do they really? They say in Spanish.
Did I read that? Yeah, you must have because you must have.

(49:36):
Because my copy also had no subtitles.
I don't see which.
Yeah. And then the the general asks his guy for
he asks him for some for a light.
Well, first he asked him for something like, hey, can you loosen these cuffs?
Hey, these are pretty tight.
It's only just you and me.
You want to let these loose these tights.
He goes, oh, I'm not permissive.
I'm not allowed to do that.
Good boy. And then he goes, oh, yeah, you're doing great.

(49:58):
That's good. But, you know, lighting me, that's one thing
that's different than freedom.
Give a man a light.
And then it cuts him choking him, which is a real fucking
Jamie Lannister bullshit move to do.
And I wouldn't have that reference two or three weeks ago.
Yeah. I thought it was a weird take
that are weird like thing did not have the subtitles.
I mean, I knew what they were saying, but like, but like I said,

(50:21):
there's so many weird choices. Yeah. Yeah.
The airport was a no, but that was a streaming choice.
Streaming choice. Yeah. Probably streaming. Yeah.
Did you did you find it strange when you were watching this
to see the phone banks in the in the airport?
Well, I thought it was funny that he's like, what was the I wrote that line.
And yet she's on a phone in the plane. Yeah.
Yeah. He's John. It's the 90s.

(50:43):
Progress. Progress died with the invention of frozen pizza
while using a pay phone. Yeah. Like, yeah.
Hey, now we have strange.
The whole thing was strange.
And then they were all Pacific Bell cell phones.
It was really strange.
It had to be advertising.
Except for Pacific Bell is not in Washington.
Yeah. I remember the baby bells.

(51:04):
They were that was West Coast. It was. Yeah. Wait. Hold on.
You're this sounds like something interesting.
What do you mean Pacific Bell phones wouldn't be?
I understand the name Pacific and probably Bell are very much West Coast.
The old AT&T, they broke up AT&T in the 80s.
And they made them go into like seven different companies.

(51:25):
And they were regionally set.
So they couldn't like Pacific Bell could not operate in Washington, D.C.
Yeah. Washington, D.C. had it. It was an AT&T.
It was a different company. That did Washington.
Like where I lived in Missouri was different. Texas was different.
Hold on. Southwestern Bell's what we had.
But we're but yeah, you're talking East Coast.

(51:46):
But this is Washington, D.C. District of Columbia.
It's not a state, right?
Isn't it like its own thing? Yeah, that wouldn't matter.
Why not? Couldn't they? Regional, but not state.
But regional. I get that.
But regional bells.
But Washington, D.C. kind of exists on its own thing.
I understand it's on the East Coast, but isn't it supposed to stand separate

(52:06):
from the rest of America because it's our capital?
Isn't that why it's a district of Columbia?
No, they're trying to make it a state anyway.
That's not even there.
What? They're still trying to make it a state.
That's never been the case.
No, but they could have different.
OK, I agree with you on the regional thing.
I'm sure they're wrong by having the Pacific Bell.
But it's also Washington, D.C.
They might have different rules.

(52:27):
They could have governmental contracts with Pacific Bell.
You don't know. I'm just saying.
You could be right. It doesn't matter.
It's just a movie, Andy. It's just a movie.
It doesn't matter.
The facts. How modern.
How cool. Yeah.
The goons.

(52:50):
Yeah, the goons are sure are going through a lot to get the Internet,
is what I put.
Shutting down the airport lights is pretty genius of an idea.
And then I did and then even more so making them change the ground level.
Oh, God, that's what a diabolical thing.
OK, but that scene again, another scene that has a really fucked up
the whole part of that scene.
OK, you the final, the mantle.

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No, the mantle cover in the runway.
Yeah.
What about it?
How long it takes to get out?
It's the most insane thing you've ever seen.
If you can't put a mantle, there's no mantle covers on runways.
No.
It doesn't exist. It cannot exist.
A plane that size, if you think about it, it would go right through it.
Yeah.
A man could not lift a mantle cover.

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Yes, it was. It was like a huge grate.
That a man came up through, I would call that mantle cover.
Yeah. But anyway, I would consider.
It was a huge grate.
Like, that's what made him so.
OK. OK.
My point is the plane would crush that.
Yeah, OK. But what about a plane?
You told me it doesn't exist.
You know, for a fact that on every plane,
I know for a fact that on every.
I know for a fact that on every runway, there are no mantle covers.

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Every runway across the world.
For a fact.
Why would they?
I don't know. Why do they put one in this?
Because it's a movie.
Because they needed a plot thing to move it forward.
You don't think they did any research, though?
What?
You don't think they did any research?
No.
Obviously not.
I will promise you that if there's a piece of steel
that a 727 can drive over,

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a man cannot lift it.
Plus.
OK, so then the real problem would be John was too.
He shouldn't have been able to lift it, is really what you're saying.
Well, if it was to exist at all, yes, but it doesn't exist at all.
They would not do it.
But also, maybe they wasn't landing on a runway.
I know that he lands on.

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He actually named the runway.
No, but he says, I'm not going to that runway.
I need to make an emergency land.
I'm going to go here instead.
Right.
I mean, maybe, but he also didn't have lights.
They had to switch the lights over.
I don't know.
Maybe he wasn't going exactly where he was supposed to go, the exact heading.
I swear you just argue with me.
I just argue.
Anything I bring up, you just sort of like, I'm like, whatever.

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OK, sure, there's manhole covers on airport runways.
I'm starting to see what last week was like.
Yeah.
Why aren't you stopping this, Brennan?
Because it's entertaining.
You're supposed to stop it.
But I also agree with Mike on that one, though.
I'm going to look it up.
If I find a single fucking runway in the world that has a great on it.
You can live.
I will be happy.

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I will be happy.
But you got to think this was 90s pre-internet.
So they're going to throw a bunch of stuff in there that's not real.
Yeah, like nobody's going to research it.
Nobody has a way to research it back then.
I mean, they could go to the library and look shit up.
But like, who's going to do that?
Like over a movie?
I just feel like they would have visited an airport.
The point of it wasn't even that it doesn't exist.

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The point of it would be impossible.
Well, and how long it takes him to get out while he's seeing the plane coming to land.
Like that plane's there already.
It's a little silly.
Like it's quick.
It's silly.
That's my point.
Yeah.
It's silly.
But I feel like it's, I don't know.
The movie itself is silly.
It has a lot of silly things in it that are done for.
Speaking of which, I guess, would be that elevators don't have an emergency stop button.

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No.
They have call buttons.
There's not a stop button.
I promise you, you go into an elevator right now and hit the emergency button or whatever.
It's just going to call 911.
And that's only if you get stuck.
There's no emergency stop button because every fucking teenager in the world would hit it
constantly and it would break elevators all the time.

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And then it would be a fucking nuisance.
So when he presses the emergency stop button and he goes up through the roof, through the
top of the elevator or whatever, and he says, I've done this before, which is funny.
And I like that scene.
First off, he goes up, she does nothing, doors open.
So the elevator started moving again on its own or he stopped it at the floor and hit

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like a pause button for the doors for like two minutes or whatever before going up into
the shaft.
So like that was a bit of just wonky mechanics.
So maybe because of that, I'll buy the other stuff that like is, I had to prove to myself
that there's, that they didn't do the research necessary.
So maybe there aren't any runways in the air.

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And then, yeah, there are no ejector seats in a 747 that doesn't know the roof doesn't
pop off like that.
Where's the fucking door?
Yeah.
And then why are these are the movie?
I'm not done with you.
I'm not done with that.
Great.
Great.
I'm not done with the elevator seat because then when the cops, when the cops open up
the door, they look confused immediately.

(57:35):
The first thing the cop does is when the doors open, he looks up.
Yeah.
And then they go, wait, aren't there supposed to be two of you?
And then they walk into the, into the, they walk into the elevator, look at each other
and then look up.
So why did they look up for one?
They had no idea that John escaped through the roof.
Here's the rational thing that would have happened.

(57:56):
Elevator doors open, one person into the side.
Huh, I thought there was supposed to be two as they're handcuffing her, still standing
outside the elevator being like, all right, well, let's take her to jail and call them
and say, Hey, there's only one person that came out of the elevator.
Not.
Yes.
The captain's drunk already.
Not one person.
Yeah.
Let her go.
Cause she just walks away back to go cause more trouble.

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And then they walk in confused.
They probably, the elevator probably shut and they just went to whatever floor they brought
them to and they just still looking up going, just really bad cops.
Well, we're fucked.
Well, shit.
Oh, let's see more places at the airport that we visit.

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The basement check air traffic control tower.
Check.
We're getting a lot of places here.
One of the pilots is the Irish guy from Star Trek.
I think his name is a Grady in the show.
He marries the Asian woman.
I forgot her name.
They have a kid, which is one of the big points because you know, it's the baby on the show.

(59:02):
It's like the new parents on the show.
So they have, you know, all that kind of stuff.
And then he goes on to Voyager.
So he actually is, is one of the first, oh no, I'm sorry.
He goes to deep.
He goes to a DS nine, DS nine.
Is he the same actor that was in con air?
I don't know.
Kind of John John C Riley looking guy.
No, he was, he was one of the pilots.

(59:23):
He had the accent.
He was part of Calaway British one.
Yeah.
The main guy, the main was that him?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
He was, he was in con air too.
He was the other cop other than, uh, John Cusack.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
The one that's like, we're getting, I'm getting that plane.
Like he's getting in the helicopters, the attack helicopters and I don't, how do I've

(59:46):
seen con air a thousand times.
That's if I ever get into a fight, right into the nose and that's instant kill.
Right?
So I mean, uh, it's the forbidden, it's forbidden tech technology.
You can't tell me when you know that move, but uh, but it's the way, but it's the way
this is the way, but I, yeah, he, it was distracting, but yeah, he's one of the few actors in star

(01:00:08):
trek.
He goes from, uh, the Patrick, uh, Patrick Stewart, Picard, TNG next generation era.
He's in all of those.
And then deep space nine, he joins that crew and he's part of the DS nine, uh, station
like show.
So he gets a long, he has a long star trek life lifespan.

(01:00:28):
Yeah.
And he's one of the longer, um, who's the one that's been in the most?
Well, probably if you include Picard as a show, oh, maybe, I mean, he might be one of
the, I looked it up.
I think it is him.
I think it's him.
Yeah.
I think it is him.
No, no, no.
Sorry.
I'm so sorry.
It's not him.

(01:00:49):
It's not.
No, no.
I know a hundred percent who it is.
It's the voice of the computer.
It's the chick.
No, no, it's chick, but it's not right.
That's not a human.
So I'm no, it is a human.
It's the wife of Jean Rod and Mary who's done.
I mean, the characters.
I'm talking, if you go to the watch mojo list, the person who's been in the most star trek
episodes is voice of computer.
She's been in every single season.
Then I'll say who's set.

(01:01:10):
Okay.
It was, uh, whose most screen time is what he's asking.
I think it's him.
I think it's Grady.
It's not, no, it's a female.
I mean, just say it then.
I don't think it's, I can't think of anyone.
If I could think of the name, I would.
Well, just name it, name what, who she is in the show.
She is a, uh, she gets taken by the board.
Oh my God.

(01:01:30):
Are you talking about seven of nine?
Seven of nine.
No, seven of nine was in a little bit of, no, she was introduced in, um, seven of nine
is carried through four.
Seven of nine is only in half a Voyager and then Picard.
So by that reasoning, Picard has more seasons than she does in his own show.
Plus Picard.
So Picard would be in more than her data was in more, was in all of seven plus the

(01:01:53):
car.
She's in more than seven of nine.
Seven of nine has only been in the last half of Voyager where she was introduced and then
anything she's been a part of now.
And she wasn't even in the beginning of Picard.
She was introduced later on in Picard.
So she has less episodes of even Picard than Picard does.
So she's lower on the list.
I promise you.
No, I'm thinking a timeline though.
Not, not so much.
Even timeline.

(01:02:14):
She's introduced way in time, but just how long she's been in the universe.
How long in the universe is what I was referring to.
No, no, I'm talking, I'm telling you.
She was taken by the Borg when?
Wait, but we don't see, we don't see, we meet her as a Borg.
Right.
But we meet her in Voyager.
We meet her like a couple.

(01:02:35):
I wasn't talking about screen time.
I don't know what you're talking about.
How long she was taken hundreds of years before that.
No, no.
She was a little girl when she was taken as a little girl.
Right.
But no, as a, as a regular age, what her age is little girl.
She's not hundreds of years old or whatever.
She wasn't, no, she was, she was taken probably while Picard was captain of the enterprise.

(01:03:01):
Like she would have been a kid at that point.
So like even, even later than that, like she was, she's much younger than Picard.
So she would have been, she was probably not even born when we were watching the first,
uh, like she was like, you know what I'm talking about?
She, I promise you, she's not the number one.
If you go number one, it's voice of computer.
Second, I think it does make sense for sure.

(01:03:22):
I think second is either now Picard might be creeping in on it because of his own show
and but I think it's still the great guy because it was two shows and that's our star Trek.
What about Leonard Nino, Leonard Nimoy?
He was kind of no Leonard Nimoy only had the original series, a couple of cameos throughout
the rest of it.
And then the movies, he was recurring character.

(01:03:45):
He's up there.
He's up there because he has a bunch of star Trek movies.
So he's definitely up there.
So is Kirk.
Yeah.
But I technically Kirk could come back now.
Kirk's back.
Oh, he is back.
Oh, and Picard?
No, in the new one, the new one.
That's an old one.
Oh, you're talking about the reboot series.

(01:04:06):
The reboots.
So you're talking about any time they say the word, this is a, this is Captain Kirk,
right?
Yeah.
Animated version.
If it's whatever.
Yeah, he's been, oh, and it's actually Shatner playing the voice.
No, no, it's different.
It's a new reboot, we're talking about Star Trek.
Oh, the new movie.
Yeah, the character.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
It's Chris Pine or whatever.
If you go off that rationale, Kirk might be up there because then there's the animated

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series, but then so Spock.
So I don't know.
Yeah, it gets interesting though.
Yeah.
But talk about some, with some lore.
If we go, but if we go actors, but if we go actors.
Oh, actors, no.
Yeah.
Then I think it's Grady.
I think it's the guy from this movie, which is what spawned all this.
And then it was just supposed to be a simple thing that you wanted to argue and you were

(01:04:53):
wrong.
Yeah.
Oh, and then I put, as they're heading towards the wing and I was like, oh, watch out, it's
the T 1000.
Because it's a young, young Robert Patt.
And he, who's also the villain in Double Dragon, which we reviewed not that long ago.
This season.
Yeah, this season.
This is our two times we get a random Robert Patrick movie.

(01:05:16):
That's not Terminator.
Yeah.
And I love his line.
What do, what do you guys, what do I look like to you?
Sitting duck and then shoots him in the head, but holy shit, how bold.
All those guys are holding machine guns.
You shoot this guy point blank and then he just kind of runs away.
No one shoots him.
Did he know he had blanks?
Who had blanks?
No one had blanks at that point.

(01:05:36):
That was real people shooting each other.
Yeah.
They had the old, they had the red stripes on their, on their.
They had red.
Okay.
Yeah.
The people that had blanks were the CTU unit and they weren't there.
No, they had blanks too.
The other, the other guys, they were both using blanks, shooting each other.
At that point.
But that was a real security team that went with the guy, with the engineer guy.

(01:05:59):
Yeah.
That was real airport security.
Airport swat.
Real bullets versus real terrorists with real bullets.
Yeah.
I get that the, when they did their fake shootout later.
Which is another thing because you can't switch from blanks to real bullets.
No, you don't have to use a completely different gun.
No, you have to use a different.
No, you have to use it by blanks.
You, okay.
But in, in those particular weapons, you have to cycle them before you can switch.

(01:06:23):
You can't just take a, take one out and put a, put one in.
It doesn't work.
The firing pin will blow up.
Okay.
Well.
But anyway.
But they, but we didn't see them.
They might have literally just had guns with blanks, guns without blanks.
No, he pulls, he pulls a magazine out.
Oh, he does, does he?
Yeah.
He pulls the magazine out and puts the other one in.
It's not, it wouldn't work.

(01:06:43):
It would explode in his face.
That's interesting.
I didn't know that.
I didn't either.
Actually, that was research.
I didn't know that.
Okay.
I did not know that.
That's cool.
I didn't know.
I like the gunfight with all of them.
Yeah.
Oh, and then after that, you have the, the engineer guy, the air traffic control dude
who gets shot in the arm and he's like, whatever.

(01:07:04):
After that, it cuts to the paramedics are just zapping a dead body with the thing.
And then it cuts over to John having to patch up this dude.
I'm like, wait a minute.
You have medics just wasting time zapping dead bodies.
Just no clear.
They're not, the guy's not laying flat.
They're just a paddle on his arm or whatever.
Like, no, he's not making it.

(01:07:25):
And then John's just, Hey, you all right, buddy?
I got you.
I just thought that was silly.
I felt like they were trying to like revive them in an online game, like don't respond.
Don't respond.
Come on.
I got you.
Battlefield.
Yeah.
Yeah.
McLean is a fucking hero.
Like when he goes out with those, with the fire.
He even tells you he's a hero.

(01:07:46):
Yeah.
He says I'm a hero.
What is his line?
He says the line, like I'm a hero, not a, I can't even remember what it is.
Oh, well I.
There's so many one line.
But when he goes out with the fire and he's trying to prevent that plane, like that was
that was like a cool.
I'm not a cop.
I'm a hero.
Yeah, that's it.
Oh, yeah.
That's cool.

(01:08:06):
Uh, and then let's see.
Two hundred and then we get the plane crash.
Two hundred and thirty people die and it hits John fucking hard.
He literally, he reacts to it and he's shell shocked for a good chunk of the movie.
After that, like a good, decent little part, like he's fucked up from it because he, he
couldn't stop it from happening.

(01:08:27):
Everything, everything I could do and I couldn't stop it from happening.
And I'm not sure at the time, was he sure that his wife, that wasn't his wife's plane?
He didn't know, right?
No, he didn't know what he didn't know.
I just thought it could have been any plane, any plane.
Let's visit more parts of the airport.
The runway check.
So the new guy on the team, counter terrorist unit, Jack Bauer, the dude taught him everything

(01:08:48):
he knows, obviously going to be the bad guy.
So I wrote down and then the janitor is probably my favorite character.
He's just a funny, funny dude, just, you know, like, oh, you want to find this coat?
He gets the radio work in or he just has it out on the desk or whatever.
And then freedom.

(01:09:08):
Not yet.
That was a great one.
That's such a freedom.
Not yet.
Punches him in the face with the generals coming off the plane.
Longest grenades ever.
So I wrote Simpsons on the TV.
Yes.
Yeah.
Was that right?
Is that right though, for the time?
90, what year did Simpsons come out?
Tracy Oldman, 1987.

(01:09:29):
So that was season one of what we were watching.
It adds up.
Oh, it was season one that was on there.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It was early or season two, but definitely one or two.
Like the animation.
That was still when I think, if I'm not mistaken, Skinner, not Skinner, whose Monty Burns is

(01:09:53):
Smithers was black and let's see what else was different.
What's crazy is.
Fox movie.
I was checking.
I just went back to look and see if it was a Fox movie.
If you look back at Old Simpsons, the animation, the voice acting is so different, such a stark

(01:10:17):
difference from today that they've done direct references lately, like recently, where the
ghosts of the other Simpsons.
There's a Halloween one where when I was doing all the Halloween specials on our last one
and I watched every Simpsons treehouse, one of them was you see modern Homer, his ghost

(01:10:39):
Marge from the previous, from the Tracy Oldman days, like old weird Marge comes out and starts
doting on him.
I love you, I love you.
You know, like doing the old, like just traditional housewife stuff that she used to do.
And he loves it.
And then some real Marge gets mad that he's like kind of cheating on her with ghost Marge.

(01:10:59):
And so she gets a ghost, homie.
It's very funny.
Good stuff.
But I like that they're playing it on the TV.
And then I thought for sure that the CT unit was going to be the bad guy.
At one point it tricks me and I'm like, oh, I thought for sure was going to be that.
I was like, well, well, fuck.
When he says that line where he says, I'm your kind of asshole.

(01:11:20):
Your kind of asshole.
I really did have a moment where even though I knew he was the bad guy, it's still, oh,
let's visit more parts of the airport.
The daycare church.
Daycare church.
Jousting.
Technically that sounds like the airport.
Did you see the check marks I put on my?
I just put airport daycare church.

(01:11:41):
You were so high when you watched this.
I loved it.
Jousting on snowmobiles with machine guns.
Yeah.
That brings us to Mike at a real arcade playing actual joust and doing good at it.
We play joust and he's really good at old games.
You should see him play dead by daylight.
He will run into a wall for 20 minutes and not know what the fuck is going on.

(01:12:04):
Give me a real joy.
We play off road racing.
The one that has the real wheel of the fucking pedals at the bar, he will destroy you.
He'll play unlimitedly.
I think he just beats the game.
Yeah.
It's still like it tired.
It's still like it tired.
We had to move on.
We were bored of watching him play race after race after race.
He had a fully upgraded car.

(01:12:26):
Then I put all those cops just suck at their jobs when he pulls his machine gun out and
starts unloading on the captain.
All the cops just look at him.
It's like, oh, come on.
I was watching.
I'll stand back.
He had so many holes in him.
Then the captain respects him after that.
That's when the captain's like, oh, shit, okay, you're right.
Finally.
All you had to do is fake shoot me.

(01:12:47):
Here's something.
When fat cop guy gets John in his car.
Have you met my brother?
Have you met?
Has he said my brother?
Oh, have you met my brother?
And he turns to him.
Was that supposed to be something?
That was the cop from the beginning.
They gave him the ticket, the parking ticket, and towed his car.
Oh, fuck.

(01:13:07):
That's right.
I thought he was the...
That you were like, this guy's awesome in the beginning.
I thought he was the cop.
I thought that was the same cop the whole time.
I thought the chief...
I thought you were going to say that he's the cop from the first movie.
The black cop.
No, no, no.
Funny.
But that would have been funny.
No, we get him.
We get Winslow.
Have you met my brother, though, would have been?

(01:13:28):
Oh, yeah.
If they were brothers, would be scary.
That would be funny.
But he...
Yeah, okay.
So that makes sense.
I thought that was maybe a reference to something.
That was a famous duo of fat Italian guys or whatever in the world.
These two fat Italian guys were probably real popular at the time in 1990.

(01:13:49):
That's why it's like, have you met my brother?
People in the audience were going, oh, my God, it's the two fat Italian guys we love.
But I can't...
I just didn't know.
So...
The cop from the beginning.
Yeah, the cop from the beginning.
Now I know.
So when...
Okay, this is a nitpicky thing.
When our main guy, the main bad guy, when he's talking to the CTU, Black Jack Bauer,

(01:14:14):
when he's talking to Black Bauer, he...
John Amos.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
So he's talking to Black Bauer, he goes, clockwork.
Now when he says it, it almost sounds like he's a dumb person saying like, clockwork.

(01:14:34):
He should say, it's clockwork.
Now if he said, it's all clockwork or it's clockwork, then I get it.
But just say, clockwork.
Like made me...
I couldn't get out of my head, like the caveman speech of just like, it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter, just bugging me.
Is fire faster than an airplane?
No.
Yeah, no.
Did you look that up?

(01:14:55):
No, I think Mythbusters did a thing on it too, didn't they?
Yeah, it was a...
That's what I saw.
I saw the video for Mythbusters.
Yeah, it was a Mythbuster.
Tried to recreate the scene.
It's impossible.
And it's slow, right?
Yeah.
It's like a slow...
Well, not only that, they couldn't catch it on fire.
They didn't get a blowtorch to catch it on fire.
A lighter will not light jet fuel.
Yeah, jet fuel won't...
Yeah.
It's like a

(01:15:16):
Sorry, this movie is...
A lighter?
No, a lighter won't light jet fuel.
This movie is so free in 9-11.
I mean, this shit's got us really political.
Yeah.
God, at this point though, is the whole...
Can it melt still?
That's our hard turn for next season is we're just gonna be a politics...
Politics heavy show.
Yeah.
Where I have on different political...

(01:15:36):
We're not smoking weed anymore.
Yeah.
We're just talking politics and religion.
I get everyone from different perspectives and we'll all just argue with each other for
nine and a half.
Wouldn't all the planes hit the other planes if they're all using the same fire streak
as a place to land?
Yeah, you think...
Literally, you see a line of airplanes.
First off, how did they all now all of the sudden know exactly where they are to line

(01:16:00):
up the way that they are?
Yeah.
Like, no, we're talking...
They're all in a blizzard.
Three or four of those planes crashed into each other just to line up trying to get to
that fire.
All of them are coming from the same direction.
No one decided, oh, fire, let me go from this way.
I see some fire.
Now they're all heading towards each other.
Not a clean solution like they would like you to think.
A lot of people died.

(01:16:21):
The smoke effect at an hour and 52 minutes, which I pointed out to them before this is
really fucking cool.
It's John.
It's a huge open shot and he's running and the planes are landing and there's a fucking
explosion and a huge pillar of black smoke.
It turns into a goddamn smoke tornado and it's fucking awesome.

(01:16:42):
I loved it.
I watched it 20 goddamn times and I'll watch it again.
However, there's a couple other special effects in this.
Like when McLean is fighting the guys on the scaffolding, when the scaffolding falls on
the guy...
Oh yeah, when he pushes the scaffolding over and it falls on the guy.
Did you notice the flop of the dummy?

(01:17:04):
It was such an obvious dummy.
It was hilarious.
It went...
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
In the middle it was such an obvious dummy.
And his roll in that where he rolled on the ground to shoot you.
I will say the fact that he didn't get shot and that roll was silly.
No one would do that.
Super slow roll.

(01:17:25):
But I think he...
Maybe he...
Well, because later on, I know the fifth element, he does something similar to that.
I think he does another similar type roll.
I think it's like maybe...
Or no.
Or maybe it's one of the later...
Another diehards.
Diehards.
Maybe that's part of his repertoire moves now.
It's like he can walk on glass.

(01:17:46):
He can make funny ho-ho-ho's.
I have machine guns.
He can deal with some real...
Yep, yippee-ki-yay.
And then deal with real emotional trauma.
And roll very slow.
And roll very slow.
And make grenades take longer.
Yeah.
I think he...
Yeah, I think he definitely...

(01:18:09):
This had to have changed him.
I think this is what causes the divorce.
Oh yeah, my last...
One of my notes is...
Wait a minute.
What?
What?
She's like, yeah, we can't be together anymore.
We're both getting caught up in shit.
Why does this keep happening to us?
Oh well, shit.
We better just get divorced.
Well, no, that's what I put.
What a sweet romantic ending.
Hope they don't get divorced in the next one.
They're divorced by three.

(01:18:30):
Or they're separated in three.
But how many years later was three?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't remember.
But it's been...
2005.
So like seven, five years?
No.
No.
Three was 2000?
No.
No, three with the vengeance came out in 95, 96 maybe.
So it would have been just a few short years after this.
Because 2005 was Live Free or Die, right?

(01:18:52):
Live Free or Die Hard.
A good day to die hard.
Or Live Free and Die Hard.
Live Free.
Which one was the last one?
I don't know.
They all got confused.
Yeah.
They're good names.
Don't get us wrong.
I like the one that had Kevin Smith and Justin Longley.
I think that was the first...
The fourth one.

(01:19:13):
Yeah, it was the fourth one.
Wikipedia will tell us the franchise.
But the fourth one is one of those things where it's the Indiana Jones Four Effect.
Where you first watch it, you're like, ooh, this isn't the Die Hard I grew up on.
I don't know how I feel about it.
Five years later.
Yeah.
And then you watch the...and then you're like, I don't know how I feel about this.

(01:19:34):
But then they make another Indiana Jones and you look back on the ancient aliens one and
you're like, oh, that wasn't too bad.
I kind of like Shia LaBeouf as his son.
Like that's cool.
That's fun.
And if they do another Indiana Jones, that's the only way to save the one that they just
made with Dial of Destiny is to make one more Indiana Jones and make it be the worst so

(01:19:56):
that you look back on Dial of Destiny and go, that wasn't too bad.
Which I still haven't seen yet.
But we'll get into RECREX later.
It has to do with Indiana Jones.
That's why he's on the brain.
Well, we're not probably going to get into Die Hard now, unfortunately.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Unless somebody else takes the role.
Well, somebody else takes the role, I guess.
Or is it him battling mental disease?

(01:20:19):
Yeah.
And shooting random people.
Yippee.
Yippee.
Yippee.
Yippee something or another.
No, it just says yippee over.
Just blinking.
Just blink.
Why did the reporter chick point to John and Holly, to her cameraman?

(01:20:40):
He turns his camera.
He says, oh, that's sweet.
She goes, yep, sure is.
And it covers the camera with her hand.
That was stupid of her as a producer of the show.
I get that she was trying to protect their modesty, but why point to them?
He was filming other shit.
She points to him, like, oh, look at that over there, catch it.
He looks over and she's like, they're all like, yeah, that's sweet.
That's a great shot.

(01:21:01):
Then she covers it like fucking bitch.
She changed her mind after.
Yeah.
Or maybe she was just talking to him normally she was thinking.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It could be.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I've seen enough of the scream at movies to know how a reporter chick can treat and
control her cameraman at her whim to know that she knew what she was doing.

(01:21:24):
The janitor, great.
There's no way I'm cleaning this mess up.
That was just a great line to kind of end on.
And I put it's definitely Christmas music or Christmas movie.
Let it let it snow or it's beginning to feel a lot like Christmas.
I think this is what's playing at the end.
So yeah.
Despite all its faults and despite it being the most serious of the diehards, I feel because

(01:21:54):
the first one is just all right.
There's a party full of rich people, upper class rich people.
They're all being held hostage by some guy that wants their money.
At that point, I'm like, OK, just give him his money.
If John McClane wants to get involved and protect his wife.
OK, that's cool.
Let's watch an action movie.
I don't care about anyone enough other than John McClane and his wife.

(01:22:14):
You know, maybe whatever.
But this one, this is random civilians on a plane.
This is just, hey, I'm going home for the holidays.
I'm visiting my family.
Now what?
We're just stuck up in the sky.
It's scary for everyone.
It's scary for people at the airport waiting for their loved ones.
It's scary for people on the plane.
Like the fact that John McClane failed.

(01:22:37):
The fact that 230 people fucking die is tragic.
This is a hard, dark movie.
It's fun and it's wrapped in silliness.
So it's easy to watch.
But if you really think about it, the actual plot line to it is very dark.
So I've watched Faces of Death for that for some reason for that Halloween thing.

(01:22:57):
I can't remember why I would do that to myself.
But I watched it.
And at the end, they show you the aftermath of 747 plane crash.
And I'll tell you, that's not something you walk away from.
And having seen and be like, this is something we can just, you know, la de da, just blah,
blah, blah, way past a plane crash.

(01:23:17):
So yeah, it's fucked up.
But despite all of its flaws, I guess, if you want to say silly moments.
But it's great.
Yeah.
It's one of the best.
It's a classic.
It's one of the best.
I still think Three is my absolute favorite diehard of all time.
And I can't wait for next year, next December.

(01:23:38):
Really this is a December thing.
This isn't so much a season finale.
We've happened to end two of our seasons in December.
But this really is going to just be our Christmas thing, like a season, you know, the end of
the year tree.
It's more of our end of the year.
Diehard New Year treat is not treat.
Thanks for listening.
Look how vain we are.
Treat for us.
The treat for us.

(01:23:58):
Watch a good movie.
Yeah.
But next year.
So let's rate this and then let's get into what our next movie is and also our new kind
of rules going forward a little bit.
I'll explain them to the audience.
So I'm going to give this a B plus because I fucking loved it.
This is maybe maybe my fifth watch through.

(01:24:21):
It's not something I watch all the time.
If I'm going to watch Diehard, it's going to be three.
And I've seen that probably a dozen times.
You know, like that's one of my top go to.
I love the villains.
I love everything about it.
I love Samuel Jackson.
I just it's so good.
So this does.
But still, this is like I think a perfect diehard.
B plus.

(01:24:43):
I agree with the rating.
Definitely B plus.
Despite some flaws, things like that.
But it's got a lot of great one liners.
Maybe at some points a little over the top on it.
But it's it's I still enjoy it.
Like it's a B plus.
I love it.
I'm not going B plus.
I'm going B. But that's you know, that's because it has so much silly in it.

(01:25:03):
Yeah.
And part of it, of course, I was in the military.
I think I might be the only one was it was.
Yeah.
I love this stuff like the 37 seconds uses the airplane ejector seat.
There's just some so ridiculous things that I have to take away from it to go to a B because
it's very ridiculous.

(01:25:23):
But I love it.
It's not it's not a bad thing at all.
Yeah.
So our grade is going to be a B plus.
Be harder.
Now next week or maybe maybe two weeks, there could be a week break.
It's Christmas coming up.
You know, so just we'll we'll see what happens.
But most likely a week or two from now, we are going to debut our next season.

(01:25:46):
And in the season, we're hoping is going to be full video.
So keep an eye out for that.
We've got some ideas, but it should be us on screen, full screens, you know, us talking,
you know, the way it should be.
Hopefully we get some cool things going on.
But we would like if you in the audience comments, any of our videos, I get notifications for
all of them, please leave what movies you want us to review.

(01:26:09):
We are now with officially season four.
We're stepping away from to be exclusive, which we've kind of been doing for the last
couple of months.
Yes.
You know, some of our special Christmas.
But we used to do to be only in the whole point of it was it was free.
It's accessible for everybody, which, you know, is great.

(01:26:30):
And that it forced us to watch things that we normally wouldn't watch.
So but now season four, I feel like we've already done 100.
You know, we've already done so many movie reviews that that I wanted to open it up to.
I mean, sorry, we're still doing movies, but I want to open it up to just now.

(01:26:51):
Any so any streaming platform that we have available to us, because I also want to open
it up to people giving us genuine, genuine movie like suggestions.
I don't want you guys at home to be limited by just what's on to be at that moment, because
you could say, oh, hey, this is on to be.
And then when we get to it, it's not right.
And then what's the point?

(01:27:11):
So we want to open this up to everything.
Just make it completely open.
So with that being said, our very first movie suggestion is My Bloody Valentine, which is
a screen name for who did that?
Well, no, I don't have it up here.
I didn't I didn't know if I was going to do that.
I thought about it and I was thinking like, I don't know if I want to start calling people

(01:27:33):
out this early because we only have like a few comments.
Right.
So maybe when it gets bigger.
But right now, it's just yeah, we got My Bloody Valentine.
And it was so yeah, so that's our next movie.
It's gonna be our season premiere, season four on video.
So look out for that.
OK, super excited.

(01:27:53):
It's gonna be fun.
Are we actually do video?
We're actually going to do it.
We're going to be at a desk.
I feel like every season you say that.
Yeah, no, don't.
It's only one season I let everyone down.
And then there was some video.
So it wasn't a lie.
Yeah, it's true.
There was some.
There was some.
So My Bloody Valentine.
And this will be our last recreational recommendation for the season.

(01:28:38):
Make it good, everybody.
And I will go first, I would like to recommend the very popular.
It looks like it's very well reviewed.
Indiana Jones and the Great Circle video game.
It's available on Game Pass.
It's also you can go buy it.
But if you have PlayStation, you have to wait.

(01:29:00):
But if you have anything else, if you have an Xbox or PC or computer, then I would say
go play it.
But if you're if you're on computer, don't go.
I would say don't buy it for sixty dollars because that's silly.
Go get Game Pass for twenty dollars.
It's ultimate PC Game Pass.
And pretty much for any games now.

(01:29:20):
And I can't imagine.
Well, it's not every.
Not every.
But there's a lot of games it doesn't have.
But there's a lot it does have.
And when it's a Bethesda game or when it's something big like this, usually you get a
day one.
So right now they have they have the alien dark descent, which isn't brand new.
But they have that they have Indiana Jones just came out stalker to parts of Chinoah

(01:29:43):
where Hottish Heart of Chinoah.
Well, they've a lot of good stuff.
I guess this is a wreck for Game Pass.
But if you get it, play Indiana Jones.
It's so fucking good.
Yeah.
You were talking about earlier this week and when I found out it wasn't on PlayStation,
you got me thinking really, really long and hard about getting the Amazon Firestick so
I can get a new game pass on stream it.

(01:30:04):
Yeah.
You also begin a game pass.
The cool thing about Game Pass is it's not limited.
So I paid twenty dollars a month for the game for the ultimate game pass deal because I
have Xbox at my house.
But and I don't know how long this is going to last, but you can share game pass.
OK, like my grandson, I pay for my game pass account, but he gets to get his own log in

(01:30:27):
and everything.
My son has an Xbox and I pay for his game pass.
Yeah, but you can also play on that.
I could play on that same game pass.
Yeah, you just put your your thing in and you log in under that one and then you add
yourself as a family member.
OK.
And but it also does not so far have to be in the same house.
Oh, that's interesting.
OK.
And it's I mean, I know all the streamers are getting away from that, but Game Pass

(01:30:50):
still works that way fine.
I have an Xbox at my house, Xbox at my daughter's house, PC at my house, PC at my daughter's
house, my grandson that plays them all.
Yeah.
So it's it's talk about value.
That's yeah, that's true.
Serious value.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's mine is it's a super great game.

(01:31:11):
Story's awesome.
It plays like a really good Indiana Jones movie.
They got the motion capture per like, I don't know.
Not motion capture, but they got the likeness of him.
Perfect.
Absolutely.
Just super good game.
I wish I could finish playing it, but if you have a low end PC that's barely able to run

(01:31:32):
it, it's broken right now beyond beyond fixing.
So I'm waiting for an update.
So I guess it's a weird recommendation because I can't even I'm on the very, very, very last
level and I can't beat it because it's failing to allocate memory.
And we're not going to get into that right now.
Can you log on to your game on your Xbox?
I don't think it works on Xbox one.
I don't have a series.

(01:31:53):
I haven't used this I haven't needed to upgrade my Xbox since getting a PC.
But yeah, that's my shit.
So Brendan, I would say this week I watched the animated Watchmen part one on Max and
it's pretty good.
I mean, I don't know the comics.

(01:32:15):
I never read the comics, but you know, Andy about it and he said it's more true to the
comics.
And you know, I'm definitely waiting for part two.
I don't know if there's going to be a part three.
I don't know how many parts it is.
So the movie is different than it's different from the movie.
It feels very similar, but there's added stuff.
So it's almost like it feels OK, similar to the extended version of the movie, not the

(01:32:36):
theatrical release, but the extended version.
But there's like a still few things that are kind of like missing from the movie that were
in the animated one.
One of them was a kid who's reading this comic book series at like a newspaper stand.
It's like a pirate themed comic book series.
And it's pretty cool.
Like it's pretty interesting.
Yeah.

(01:32:56):
I'm just that's what I'm sure Max is doing is they're just adapting the comic into an
animated series.
It feels good.
I like it because the show, the movie can only do so much.
Yeah.
And so they cut out like that.
That would have been a huge chunk of it would have been at least 10 minutes of movie time
to have that kid reading the book.
And then they did in the extended cut.

(01:33:18):
Did they show did they have an animated version of the comic book?
The the I thought that for the Watchmen movie, the original, the extended cut, the DVD, whatever
the Blu Ray, you might have had something in the like a 20 minute little short or a 10
minute little short that you could watch alongside it or with it or whatever.

(01:33:39):
But OK, yeah, I mean, that that's on my list.
Yeah, I don't know how many parts there's going to be, but I know at least two because
now what's crazy about Watchmen is because Watchmen in D.C. are on the same
comic line.
It's it's weird.
I don't know because I don't think I don't think Watchmen is D.C.
I thought it was image.

(01:34:01):
I don't know.
But whatever it is, they now are completely connected.
So the Watchmen universe and D.C. now have a crossover event or did a year ago where
like Batman is working with them and shit doing stuff.
So like, yeah, I haven't read those yet, though.

(01:34:23):
It's on my list as well.
How about you, Mike?
Well, are you ready?
Everybody ready for another fight between myself and Andy?
Oh, no.
He already knows what I'm going to recommend.
I'm watching the anthology series.
Oh, yeah.
Secret level.

(01:34:43):
Oh, on the.
On front.
And I think Andy disagrees with me.
Have you both watched it already?
I've only seen two episodes.
I haven't watched the other episode.
No, no, no.
I haven't.
I haven't yet.
I haven't seen any of it yet, but it looks good.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
I'm on episode six, I think now I've been watching any pick levels out to watch.

(01:35:06):
I watched.
I just started it at one.
I watched with two things that sounded interesting to me.
The other ones did.
Now, is there like a through line or is it?
No, no, no.
Just 10 minute little shows.
No, it's a true anthology, true anthology series with different video game adaptations.
And I have gotten past now we were talking about the other day about the Pac-Man.
Yeah.

(01:35:27):
And you're right, that was a strange choice.
Adaptation is a weird choice.
But I heard that the Pac-Man one had kind of some payoff with the new Pac-Man game trailer
that came out at the Game Awards.
Oh, I didn't see that.
Do not know because I haven't seen that.
I'll have to watch that.
But I can tell you, it's weird.
That's all I can tell you.
They're using that style of animation.
My buddy told me about this, that the Pac-Man episode is going to be what the new Pac-Man

(01:35:49):
game is going to look like.
OK, that's a.
Yeah, it's a.
That's what he's.
We're going to have to see this trailer because that's a weird thing that would be happening.
Trust me.
I haven't seen either.
No, no, no, because here's the thing.
If what you're saying is true, the new Pac-Man game is going to be similar to what this thing
is.
It's not Pac-Man.
Then it's going to be like a Raided M Pac-Man.

(01:36:11):
Yes.
Oh, this.
Yeah, it's not.
It could be Miss Pac-Man.
That would be funny because it's like an adventure game.
It's not going to be like your traditional Pac-Man.
OK, I need to see this trailer immediately.
So there's Unreal Tournament is one of the games on their D&D Warhammer Dungeons and Dragons
Warhammer, which is the one they're pushing the hardest of Warhammer.

(01:36:33):
It wasn't my favorite one.
My favorite one was probably either Unreal Tournament or or the very first one, which
is the Dungeons and Dragons.
But you know what the thing is, is these are all like pushes for something because like,
yeah, you're right.
The Warhammer, they want more people to Warhammer.
They want more kids in the Warhammer because Warhammer is a business at this point.

(01:36:55):
You could go to Warhammer stores in like certain big, big, big, big cities like New York or
whatever, where you could go and spend thousands and thousands of dollars.
Yeah, they even gave them.
Prime's actually on their Prime Gaming.
They're giving away the Warhammer to go with this kind of.
Yeah, plus they have a shitload of video games.
Like Warhammer is a big universe.
They're trying to get more and more people into it.

(01:37:16):
When they give D&D also, they're making a big push to get more people into D&D, like
getting that brand off the ground.
But and then Unreal Tournament, because Unreal Engine, if you have Epic Games Store, it gives
you Unreal Engine for free.
Yeah.
And one of the things that they give you to fuck around with is Unreal Tournament.

(01:37:38):
So they give you brand new Unreal Tournament.
They're like, here's everything.
We'll teach you how to code from here.
You can adjust levels from here.
So right now, currently, Unreal Tournament is full of just people have user made maps
and guns and, you know, not guns, but they do different stuff.
It's cool.
So but the show, amazing graphics stuff, it's kind of amazing.

(01:38:00):
You look at the my wife actually watched some of these with me last night was just amazed
by him.
And she's she's actually the one that pointed out.
She's like.
How a few years ago, Avatar was amazing, amazing graphics.
And this now, I will say, because we put them side by side after that we were literally

(01:38:21):
talking about it.
We put them side by side.
I'm not 100% sure.
I would say with what we were watching, this has better graphics quality.
Some of these episodes than Avatar.
Original Avatar than the original Avatar.
But then this is where we did argue.
This is where we argued about.
But I think maybe the difference and it could be because we put them side by side in their

(01:38:44):
both streaming platforms.
So I don't know if maybe Prime is doing a higher bit rate than Disney.
It could be that we weren't watching.
In other words, we're watching side by side trying to figure out which one of these is
better because when you watch Avatar, you kind of if you're watching it for this purpose,
not forgetting plot, forgetting all that stuff, just watching just graphically.

(01:39:08):
You see the paint more in Avatar than you do in this, if that makes sense.
Well there's reasons for that.
One is it's a mix of live action and real and computer animated.
So that's a, I guess if you want to say that it's easier to tell that it's CGI, it's only

(01:39:31):
because you see real people standing in front of blue screen.
If we're going, if you take the real people out of it and you look at just Avatar for
its own on its own graphically versus what I'm assuming is one of the like, let's just
say the top one from Secret Level.
I just feel like with Avatar and I haven't seen it, I'll do all it might.

(01:39:51):
I might eat my own shoe later, eat my shorts or whatever.
No, she was better.
Yeah.
I would say that the hundreds of the Simpsons.
It's the, I would say that the hundreds of millions of dollars that they put into mocap
technology to make the Avatars move around, the literally the extensive putting every

(01:40:14):
single pore on the Avatar skin as they walked around because they knew that this was going
to be shown on IMAX in full.
That's what I'm saying.
Avatar.
Watching streaming might be the where I'm not seeing it.
So I would just, it's hard to say, cause Avatar is sort of the standard when it comes to,
at least Avatar 2 probably even is now like the standard of what CGI can look like.

(01:40:35):
James Cameron is like just, he's the best at it.
I feel there are other movies that look amazing and flawless.
I feel like like Alita Battle Angels, one of those movies that looks so good.
Just now it looks great.
Well, no, it still looks great.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So cool.
Secret Level.
I'll have to watch the rest of them.
I did like the Sifu one.

(01:40:56):
It's pretty much just what the game is.
And you just watch it as a 10 minute short instead of playing the game.
Yeah, they're all very short.
I think, yeah, Dungeons and Dragons 15 minutes, nine minutes for Sifu.
Yeah.
So they're pretty short.
They're all short.
Well, with that, we're going to end this thing.
We're going to end season three.
We're going to move on into the future.
You're going to see our faces.

(01:41:17):
I'm going to say beautiful faces, but then I changed it to just faces.
You're going to see our faces moving forward.
Yeah, I'm still going to be there.
Yeah, Mike's still going to be there.
And so is Brendan, the two beautiful guys.
I'll be here as well.
Your host, as always, Andy Rice.
But with me is one more time, you know, as just audio, it's Brendan.

(01:41:42):
Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun,
shipley up to Boston.
Have a good night, everybody.
With me, as always, it is Michael.
This season's been a wild ride.
I think it introduced Cellios.
I think we killed off Cellios.
Not yet.
No, we did.

(01:42:03):
We did.
Not yet.
And today we're killing them off.
We're killing them off right now?
Right now.
Because?
Um, Cellios right now.
But Yippee-Ki-Ai, motherfucker, I might become a foot plane.
You don't know.
Oh my gosh.
For the people listening at home, for the B storyline of Mike's life and his will to

(01:42:25):
fuck my life up by existing in this world where he thinks he's some unkillable monster,
creature, Cellios.
And I'm John McClane.
I fucking hate it so much.
Larson.
Yippee-Ki-Ai, motherfucker.
God damn it.
And we've been fried.
We've been podcast.
It's been season.
Finale three, all that good stuff.
Good night.
We've been podcast.

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