Standing Firm for Life: Lt. Governor Jeanette Nunez on Florida's Amendment 4 and Faith-Based Advocacy

Why should you care about Amendment 4 in Florida? Join us as we delve into this critical issue with Lieutenant Governor Jeanette Nunez, who provides a clear and insightful analysis of the proposed measure that could dramatically alter abortion laws in the state. Discover the potential consequences of ambiguous terms and why it's crucial for believers to take a stand against this deceptive and dangerous amendment.

Our discussion doesn't stop at the legislative implications. We explore the sanctity of life through a biblical lens, guided by scriptures like Exodus 20:13 and Psalm 139. We tackle the ethical and moral dimensions of abortion, emphasizing the importance of protecting unborn life. Hear from passionate callers and community members who share their heartfelt prayers and perspectives, urging us to align our actions with faith-based values in every aspect of our lives.

Voting isn't just a right—it's a responsibility. We underscore the importance of making informed decisions that reflect our faith and commitment to protecting life. From heartfelt prayers, including one from a 10-year-old listener, to calls for strong community involvement, this episode is a powerful reminder of the need for divine guidance and unwavering support for the unborn. Don't miss this compelling conversation that calls for clarity and steadfastness in upholding God's respect for life.

Episode Transcript

Razz (00:00):
So you may want to give us a call.
This is a live program.
This is Life for Jesus.
Hey, the topic this morning iswhat do you have to say about
life?
What do you think about life,especially in the subject area
of the unborn baby, the baby inthe womb?

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What do the listeners of Lifefor Jesus have to say about that
baby that's unborn?
You know I hear these topicslike my body, my choice, and
that sounds very nice.
However, what about the choiceof the baby that's unborn?
Who will speak for the baby?
Who will stand up for the baby?

(00:41):
Will the life for Jesuslisteners do that?
786-313-3115.
Who will call me?
Who will speak on the subject?
What about life of the unborn?
You know, in the Bible, in theword of God, in the scriptures
it's Exodus 20, verse 13,.
That says thou shall not kill.
And so how can a believer, howcan a Christian, how can a

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person that believes in God andhas faith in God and has faith
in the Word, how can they killan unborn baby?
Is there any way to justifythat?
Is there any way to sanctifythat?
Is there any way to swallowthat?
I mean, god respects life.

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What do you think about thematter and, as we cover this
subject, I want to be very clear.
You know, because we have amixed view of listeners.
This is a marketplace for ideas.
You know, whoever has done anabortion, there is forgiveness
in God, yeah, there's grace inGod, and the past is the past.
But I'm talking about thepresent.
I'm talking about what shouldthe stand of the believer be in

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reference to the unborn baby?
And, of course, we expand that.
You know, as you well.
I got the phone lines filledright now 786-313-3115.
I believe Cora Gables was firstCora Gables.
Good morning your life forJesus.
How are you doing on thisWednesday morning?

Caller (02:08):
Another beautiful day on my way to Delicia, españa, for
men's Bible study.

Razz (02:12):
Excellent, excellent, excellent.
You know we're talking todayabout the unborn baby life.
What about life?
What does Cora Gables have tosay about that?
What does the Word of God haveto say about that?
What's God's scope?
What is God's view, what isGod's heart on the matter?
You got the mic.

Caller (02:31):
Jeremiah 1.5, as a first verse.
Therefore, I formed you in thewomb.
I knew you before you were born.
Isaiah 49.1,.
Before I was born, the Lordcalled from my mother's womb.
Who was he calling to if therewasn't a baby?
That was in Psalm 139, 13through 18,.

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You created me in my inmostbeing.
You knit me together, psalm139,.
You saw me before I was born.
Every day of my life, yourecorded in your books.
What was God talking to?
What are these verses talkingof?
Recorded in your books.
What was God talking to?
What are these verses talkingof?
Are they talking aboutsomething that was not a living
being, a spirit-filled image ofGod?
Is that what it was?
Murder, brother Murder.

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You kill an unborn child.
Murder.
Don't try to tell me any otherway.
My mind's made up.
Scriptures are perfectly clearon it you're listening to god's
way radio.

Razz (03:26):
This is a program.
Life for jesus is a lifeprogram.
Call-in program text andprogram 786-313-3115.
We're talking to one of ourlisteners from the coral gables
area and he's given a scripturejeremiah 1 5, isaiah 49 1, psalm
139.
There's, there's a, a, a partin that Psalms there that says

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something very beautiful.
It says I am fearfully andwonderfully made, and it's an
interesting thing.
David goes on to say before Iwas even formed, you knew the
number of my days, and so it'san interesting thing.
And before I let you go, I justwanted again to take a little
survey here.
You know, column yes, column no.
Yes, we should protect, weshould stand for the unborn baby

(04:09):
.
No, it's the woman's choice.
But here's my question.
Here's my question.
Okay, what should the stand ofthe person that respects the
Bible, the person that respectsthe Scriptures?
What should the stand be?
Is there any room for doubt?
Is there any room for confusion?
You got the Scriptures.
What should the stand be?
Is there any room for doubt?
Is there any room for confusion?
You got the mic, cor Gables.

Caller (04:29):
No doubt in my mind.
I mean, I think the Scripturesare absolutely clear that is an
unborn child that needs to beprotected.
And please, please, for thosewho come up with the exceptions
of life of the mother, rape andincest, let's look at that as a
percentage of the abortions.
So let's not lead with theexceptions, the very, very small

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percent, because I don't think,Raz, I don't think that the
large percentage of abortionsare due to those very unique,
extreme situations.
So let's not justify and flawthe analysis and the error by
using the minor to become themajor.

Razz (05:14):
Very good, very good.
Now here's a question whatshould a citizen do, a believing
citizen?
What should they do when theythink about an elected official?
Is it important?
Their stance on this matter, onthis subject, is this something
minor or is this somethingmajor?
The respect and the sanctityfor the unborn baby, for life?

(05:35):
And I love what you said.
You know there are exceptions,you know everybody does have an
opportunity to weigh inpersonally on certain matters,
but what you're bringing to thetable is that the minors
shouldn't dictate for the majorpolicy, the major guideline, the
major practice of a culture anda nation and a people, and

(05:55):
especially, I believe, thebelieving people in the living
God.
You got the mic.
Any closing statements?

Caller (06:02):
How can you be a believer and say that it's okay
to vote for the other side?
That feels like abortion atwill.
How do you justify those two inyour mind?
I don't get it.
This is one of those topics.
This will make me crazy in ananosecond, because it just
doesn't make any sense at allhow you can, in one stance, say
I'm a believer and then you havejust tons of Bible verses

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indicating that that is anunborn child that needs to be
protected, sanctity of life, andyour elected officials.
How do you vote for an electedofficial that doesn't see that
the way the Bible sees it?
You're effectively saying thatI'm going to go with the world
and go against what God'swritten in His Word.
How do you do it?
Can't do it, brother.
Can't do it.

Razz (06:47):
Thank you so much.
If you want to have a closingprayer, that would be good.
I think we need a lot of prayerwhen it has to do with the
subject.
You got the mic.

Caller (06:54):
Thank you, father, for all the blessings that you give
us.
We pray, lord, that we wouldlook at all the decisions, all
the situations that we face inlife under the microscope of
what your word has to say forall of us, not our feelings, not
our thoughts, not our beliefs,but what the Bible teaches.
Lord, your word has been givento us so that we would excel,

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that we would draw close to you,that we would be one day with
you in heaven.
Help us to follow what it says,lord, and not come up with our
own thoughts, beliefs andfeelings about the situation.
Lord, thank, thank you for allthe blessings, thank you for
this radio station, the abilityto share our thoughts this
morning, father, and we praythese things in Jesus' name,
amen.

Razz (07:33):
Amen.
Thank you for your call.
You have a wonderful day youtoo, brother.
Bye-bye, thank you, bye-bye.
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(07:55):
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It's 7.15.
We are down to the firstquarter hour of the program.
We have our guest in the studio.
This is going to be special.
You have an opportunity to hearfrom our guest, very special
person, very special.
Stay tuned, we'll be right back.
Life for Jesus.

(08:35):
Monday through Thursday, 7.04in the morning.
The phone lines are full.
Hey, be ready.
When you hear somebody kind ofdisconnect, you can dial in
786-313-3115.
The time is 716 this morning,wednesday morning, september the
18th 2024.
Man, I don't know about you.
September's going quick.
We got a little bit of musicfor you.

(08:56):
We got a phone call.
The subject today is whatshould the believer, what should
the person that believes in God, believes in God's word?
What does God's word have tosay about the unborn life, the
unborn baby?
Should we, at will, justexterminate.
Should we just eliminate thatchild?
Who will speak for the child?
What does the word of God haveto say?

(09:18):
You can call me 786-313-3115.
Let's go to the FIU area.
Fiu good morning, is that you?

Caller (09:33):
Yes, good morning, Pastor Raz.
Yeah, no, thank you for havingthe courage to talk about this
important topic today.

Razz (09:35):
Well, you know, it's an interesting thing.
A lot of people are doingchoices by popularity.
You know, what does the mass,what is the popular stand?
But the believer should dothings according to God's
satisfaction and pleasure.
So this morning in the programwell, we're going to have a
guest in a few minutes here.
They're already in the studio.
I think I might invite them tocome in earlier.

(09:56):
But here's the question whatshould the stand, what should
the opinion, what should theview of the person that knows
the scriptures, that knows theBible, that knows God, you know,
from the nation of Israel allthe way to the church of God,
what should that view be?
And so you got the mic.
Please let us know.

Caller (10:16):
I'll tell you.
Well, joe, just rattled offabout five verses where it talks
about and I had Jeremiah 1.5 asI was driving in my mind and I
don't have the whole thingmemorized, but I know before I
formed you in the womb.
I knew you and before you wereborn I consecrated you.
So you know God.
Like Joe said, god said it inhis word that you know he

(10:38):
consecrated you before you wereborn and he knew you before he
knit you in his womb.
I mean, it's very clear inScripture.
There's no doubt.
Now, you know, when it comes toa Christian, you know we're
called not to be silent.
You know there's sins ofomission and we're called, if we

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don't do what is right, that isa sin according to God's word.
So we are called to stand upfor the innocent, for the unborn
.
We do have an opportunity herein South Florida to stand up for
the unborn and do what's right.
You know, on our ballot onNovember 5th there's going to be
Amendment 4 that we're going tobe voting on and it deals with

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allowing late-term abortions.
You know, moving theprotections for women and
children.
You know, eliminating parents'rights.
There's a lot of things thatare in that amendment form and
you know and this is my opinion,not the radio station's opinion
, but in my opinion and I don'tknow you could talk to the radio
station, but as far as myopinion, we have to vote no
because it's this is ouropportunity to stand up for the

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unborn child.
And you know there's a lot ofthings that go into.
You know, in our country, inthe Bible it talks about how,
you know, we call right what'sright, wrong, what's wrong right
.
And that's what's happening.
They're calling what's wrongright.
But you know, the irony of itis the contradiction of it,

(12:09):
because there are states wheretoday, if, if, if, if somebody
commits murder on a, you know,and kills a pregnant woman, they
are prosecuted for doublehomicide.
Yet those same states will not,those same states will still
have abortion laws that allowsabortions up to, in many states,

(12:32):
nine months.
And you know, when you startasking that question to somebody
who might think what's wrong isright, you start asking the
question is it okay to abort achild at nine months, at eight
months, at six months, at sevenmonths?
Most you know will say six,seven, eight, nine, no way are
not right, even in that category.
And then the question is wheredo you draw the line?

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You know, when did we becomeGod to draw that line?
And that's a question thateverybody has to ask, but as far
as I'm concerned, I'm going tostand up for the unborn child,
and it is a child.

Razz (13:11):
Interesting to hear from you, fiu, again, as a person
that believes in God, thatbelieves in the Scriptures, that
believes in the Holy Bible.
You're saying that, yes, weshould stand for the unborn
child.
In other words, is it okay tokill an unborn child and you
would say no, absolutely.
I will put you in the no column.

(13:32):
And so there's many ways tolook at this question, and I
think I like the word no becausewhen it comes to an election,
sometimes they phrase thingsthat they say opposite of what
the real agenda is, and so, tobe very clear, a believer should
say no, it's never okay to takean unborn child.

(13:53):
Obviously, there might beexceptions, but we're not
talking about the exceptionstoday.
We're talking about the generalrule, the general law, the
general practice of a civilizedpopulation that fears God, that
believes in God's Word.
Interesting to have yourpresentation this morning.
Any closing statements that youmay have?

Caller (14:13):
I would just say, whenever it comes to things like
this, you know, and to ourvoice to be heard, especially in
an important amendment likethis, is, I would tell people to
really research it, becausewhen you, you know and I'm not,
it not, I can't, you know, readthe whole thing, but if you were
to read the amendment, it'svery confusing in the way it's
written and it could bedeceptive, and that's why we

(14:36):
need to you know we're called toyou know to stand up, but also
to you know, investigate andknow what we're doing and get
involved.
So the challenge would be readit before you go to vote,
understand it and know what'sgoing on in your community, know
what's going on around you,because you know life is in the

(14:59):
balance.

Razz (15:00):
Thank you so much.
We know one thing God is notthe author of confusion, god is
a God of clarity, you know.
Anyway, thank you for your call, fiu.
You have a wonderful day,appreciate your participation
and God bless you.
Thank you, pastor, god blessyou.
Open line.

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This morning we have a specialguest.
It's 723.
We're like about maybe sevenminutes away.
Please stay tuned.
We have a caller from theRichmond Heights area.
A little bit of music.

Caller (15:36):
I'll be right back.
I'm going to turn off the music.
To buy my pardon An empty graveis there to prove my Savior
lives.
Because he lives, I can facetomorrow Because he lives All

(16:05):
fear is gone Well.

Razz (16:10):
the phone lines are full this morning.
It's exciting 786-313-315.
Our subject this morning is theunborn child.
What should be the stand of thecitizen, the believer, the
community, the elected officials?
What do you think?
786-313-3115.
It's 724.
Let's go to this caller herefrom Richmond Heights area.

(16:30):
Richmond Heights.
Good morning, is that you?

Caller (16:34):
It is, I yes, it is.

Razz (16:36):
Good morning sir, how are you Good morning Better, now
that you've called in, I'mwondering what does Richmond
Heights have to say about theunborn baby You've called in and
wondering what does RichmondHeights have to say about the
unborn baby?

Caller (16:49):
You got the mic, Amen, Listen.
When you said the believer, mymind went into the realms of the
believer.
You're not talking to thepeople of the world that lives
by their standards.
My mind went straight to thePharisees, the scribes and the
elders when Jesus began to healthe people on the Sabbath day or
heal the people period, and howthey wanted to kill him.

(17:09):
Why would you want to killsomeone that is trying to help?
Why are you trying to killthese?
People are suffering, the blindeyes are open, the arms of the
people are being stretched out,people are beginning to get life
themselves and life begins tobe breathed into the people, but

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you, with your religious mind,wants to kill that.
So my mind went there likeyou're not looking to see that
this is God, this is the thingsof God, this is the ways of God.
We live by the things of God.
So therefore, we cannot killthe things that God is in.
You know, when you got thatmindset to be religious or a
certain, like you said with theelected officials, you will see

(17:54):
oh okay, well, they don'tbelieve, they believe in
abortion, but they also want togive us more money or they want
to not have us under a certainset.
You're looking at one part andnot looking at all.
You may not like this officialbecause they're for this part,
but when it comes to the word ofGod, it is the abortions, it is
the different things thatyou're treating people wrong.

(18:16):
You cannot.
You cannot.
If you can't weigh it in thebalance, then you need to go
before God and say God, what doI do?
Because your word says this iswhat we're talking.
Your word says we are believers.
Your word says I can't vote.
I can't vote this way becauseit is against your word.
However, they're doing otherthings I don't like, but it is

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not against your word.
We go to the polls for the wordof God, to seeking out the word
of God.
We get married to people thatare in the word of God.
We fellowship with folks thatare believers.
That's doing what God says.
Our whole lives has to be basedon the word, not what we want,
not part of it.
Well, this got a little bit init.

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No, if God says thou shall notkill, then thou shall not kill.
You cannot vote that in.
You cannot overwrite that.
You cannot put what you want.
It has to be what God says andlet him handle the rest.
You do what he tell you to doand let him deal with the rest
of it.
So my mind went there with thePharisees, the scribes and the

(19:19):
elders.
How they were so full ofreligion and they could not see
God.
We can't go and just see whatwe want to see.
We got to see God, even withtears in our eyes, pastor, even
with things that go against whatwe think and feel.
We're not in our feelings, sothat's my spiel on it.
I went a little different, butno, we're not to kill.

Razz (19:40):
Very interesting to hear your participation this morning
here on Life for Jesus.
By the way, you're listening toGod's Way Radio 104.7 FM on
your radio dial.
You could also download thephone app and then you could
listen to the station when yougo beyond the radio signal
coverage area.
We're talking to one of ourlisteners from the Richmond
Heights area and it's veryinteresting to hear you this

(20:03):
morning.
Richmond Heights area, and it'svery interesting to hear you
this morning.
In other words, am I hearingyou correctly that when you
believe in God, when you believein the Bible, it's really not
just your opinion, but there'sactually a God heart.
God will God flow about it?
Am I hearing you correctly?

Caller (20:19):
You got the mic closing statements yes, yes, that is
what it is and we got to knowthat everywhere we go, even when
it comes to grocery shopping,even when it comes to fellowship
with people, everything we dohas to be God-centered.
We're not walking aroundreligious and looking up in the
sky being weird and strange, butthose that know he leads his

(20:43):
children, he leads his children.
So we have to take thateverywhere we go.

Razz (20:51):
Richmond Heights.
You've been very clear.
I appreciate your call.
You have a wonderful day andcontinue to shine there in the
Richmond Heights area andneighborhood.
Okay, thank you.
God bless you.
Thank you, bye-bye.
I'm waiting on a wave.
Only you can break.
I'm waiting on a move only youcan.

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It looks like heaven pouringout, the kingdom calling out.
I'm waiting on a wave.
Only you can break.
So come on word and spirit.
Come on, move the mountains,lead us through the desert, lead

(21:41):
us to the fountain Springs ofliving water.
Leave me thirsty, no more.
Hey, you're listening to God'sWay Radio 104.7 FM on your radio
dial.
This is the program Life forJesus and you can call

(22:06):
786-313-3115.
It's 730, so I want to startpromptly and on time, because
God's time is prompt time.
Sometimes you hear culture'stime and I don't know about that
.
You know they say CalvaryChapel time is always on time.
So 730, let's get started here.
We have our guests in thestudio.
Good morning to you.

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How are you this morning?

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (22:27):
Good morning, Pastor Raz.
I'm doing great Good.

Razz (22:29):
And just for people to know who you are, please
introduce yourself.

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (22:32):
Yes, I'm currently Lieutenant Governor of
the state of Florida, a proudwoman of faith and so honored to
be here with you talking aboutthis very important topic.

Razz (22:40):
Well, it's a pleasure to have you this morning.
As you know, we have ourlistenership audience and
they're tuned in.
We have people on the line.
I think somebody just hung up.
We have you here for a veryspecific reason, and so there's
something coming up on theballot, I think November the 5th
.
Would you tell us a little bitabout that?

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (22:59):
Yes, coming up this election, we're going to
see Amendment 4, which is anamendment that is deceptive, it
is dangerous, it's extreme andit's around abortion, and I know
you've been talking about italready this morning and I've
been listening in a little bitand praise God that there's so
many believers that have calledin to express their views, but
not necessarily their views,god's views.

(23:20):
And so the way that thisamendment is written, it's
written in a way that's reallyintended to confuse voters.
It's ambiguous, it doesn'tprovide definitions, it confuses
and it conflates certain topics, and so I actually have a
ballot summary that I think it'simportant.
If I could, if I could read itjust really quickly so people
can hear what it?

(23:40):
says.
And then I can walk throughwhat the real problems are with
this amendment.
So it says the ballot summarysays no law shall prohibit,
penalize, delay or restrictabortion before viability or
when necessary to protect thepatient's health, as determined
by the patient's healthcareprovider.
This amendment does not changethe legislature's constitutional

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authority to requirenotification to a parent or
guardian before a minor has anabortion.
So if you listen to that,sometimes things are written in
a way, like I said, to confusevoters and I think it's
important that we talk about it.
When it says viability, it's notdefined.
There are many doctors thatconsider viability at different
points of the pregnancy.

(24:22):
So there's not one standardclinical term.
They have a range, but there'sno one standard term.
When we talk about thepatient's health, does that
include just physical health ormental health?
When it talks about healthcareprovider, is that solely the
physician or could it be a nurseor a physical therapist?
And then the last thing which Ithink is so important for your
listeners to understand, that itsays it doesn't change anything

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about parental notification.
So you think to yourself oh,that's good, parents should be
notified.
But current law in Florida isnot only that you have to notify
parents, but parents have toconsent to a minor getting an
abortion.
So notification and consent aretwo very different things,
which is why this amendment, Ibelieve, is so extreme and so
dangerous, because it removes aparent's ability to consent, and

(25:08):
for me as a mother, I can'tthink of anything more damaging
to parental rights somethingthat Governor DeSantis and I
have been fighting for here inFlorida than to eliminate that
right for a parent to consent.

Razz (25:19):
So, if we're listening correctly, by the way, you're
listening to God's Way Radio.
This is 104.7 on your FM dial.
This is the program Live forJesus.
This morning we have theprivilege and the honor to have
our guest, our LieutenantGovernor, here, jeanette Nunez,
and she's here to inform, she'shere to educate, she's here to
instruct on this importantballot vote that's coming up in

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November the 5th.
I understand and I believe it'sProposition Number 4, so that
the listeners know Now I mightunderstand you correctly that
what's being voted on is that ifyou vote yes, then that means
that anyone that wants to get anabortion, when you talk about
viability, when you talk aboutparental consent, that you could
have a minor actually making achoice that they might regret

(26:02):
for the rest of their life, andthey cannot even consult with
their parent.
Did I get that right?
Would you expound a little biton that, because that sounds
insane to me.

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (26:11):
That's what a yes vote on Amendment 4 is.
It's all of those things, andso, for us, why we've been so
vocal and why we've been talkingabout this issue nonstop, is
because it is extreme.
It could potentially allow anabortion up until the time of
birth, a late-term abortion.
We would be an outlier in theSoutheast.
We would be the only state inthe South that would allow for

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such extreme abortions to takeplace.
It would remove parentalconsent completely.
It specifically talks about itin this ballot summary, and so,
for us, we think that votersneed to understand what they're
voting for, and really, if youlook to God's word which is the
only place you should be lookingto to get instruction for this
amendment it's very clear.

(26:53):
There's no gray area, there'sno wiggle room.
This is really a matter of lifeand death, and so I, as a
believer, want to stand for life.
I want to make sure that we aresupporting things that create
that culture of life and thatprotect an innocent child.
So we're really proud to befighting this fight, and I think
believers need to comealongside us.

Razz (27:12):
Yes, if you just tuned in, you're listening to God's Way
Radio.
We have Lieutenant GovernorJeanette Nunez with us.
She's given some clarity on theproposition number four that's
coming up in the ballot inNovember, the 5th.
It's interesting because you'resaying that the way that is

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presented it's almost saying theopposite of what it's going to
do.
It's very confusing, like yousay, and so it's important for
the listener to know that a yesvote, a yes vote is not that
you're, yes, protecting thechild, but a yes vote is that
you're instituting, you'reagreeing with laws to be
instituted that will actuallynot stand for the life, not
stand for the child, not standfor the parents.
It's almost like, if I'mreading it correctly and please

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help me out with this you'rekind of like approving the
extermination and the death andthe killing of the unborn,
defenseless baby.
Am I getting that correctly oris that just me being too
fanatical?
No, you are, and just likeSatan is the killing of the
unborn, defenseless baby.
Am I getting?

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (28:08):
that correctly, or is that just me being too
fanatical?
No, you are, and just likeSatan is the father of lies, the
other side on this amendmentthat's pushing for a yes vote.
They're filling the voters'minds with lies.
They're saying that you know.
Everything we're saying is nottrue.
They're trying to make us seemlike, oh, you can fix that or
you can change that, or nothingin this amendment is going to
restrict parents' rights, andthat's just false, plain and

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simple.
And what they're doing isthey're enshrining a right to
abortion up until the time ofbirth.
Make no mistake, this is notabout, okay, we're deciding
whether it's 12 weeks or 15weeks or six weeks or 24 weeks,
up until the time of birth.
They're enshrining this rightin our state constitution, which
is the ultimate law of the land.
It's not like the legislaturecan come back and say next year,

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okay, well, we don't like that.
The voters approved this, sowe're going to change it and
we're going to tweak it.
The legislature makes laws allthe time.
As we know, they change themfrom time to time, periodically.
They'll go and they'll repeallaws or they'll fix laws, or
they'll tweak them, amend them.
This is not something that iseasily amended.
This is our state constitutionthat you are enshrining for all,

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for for everyone to have anabortion.
This is just something for methat I cannot fathom how the
other side can sit there and tryto promote this and and fill
really the voters minds withlies, because that's what
they're doing.

Razz (29:25):
Now we're going to come back in a moment.
I have someone on the linethat's holding One of the things
that somebody asked me recently.
They said why does this subjectkeep coming back?
You know, I thought with theRoe versus Wade I thought that
we agreed.
You know the nationalconstitution that.
You know it stood on protectingthe child, the unborn.

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So that got turned around.
We kind of got it straight as anation.
Why is this subject coming back?
Maybe you have something to sayin the matter, but right now I
got a phone call.
Let's go to this phone call.
Hey, good morning.
You're.
Live for jesus.
I believe this is miami shores.
How are you this morning?

Caller (30:03):
I'm doing well.
Good morning, I'm so blessed byyour station, by this station,
pastor, I've got to tell you.
I'm so blessed by what thecallers have been saying, by
what the lieutenant governor issaying, and I just wanted to
give another reference to God'sword.
It's in Proverbs 31, verse 8.
It says open your mouth for thespeechless in the cause of all

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who are appointed to die.
To me, I think that verse beingso clearly and so directly on
this subject that I just wantedto share that with the listeners
.

Razz (30:38):
You got to give us the address to that again.
It's Proverbs.

Caller (30:40):
What 31 verse 8.

Razz (30:45):
So glad you called Proverbs 31, verse 8, for the
listener that maybe is deciding.
You know, and I don't want toput anybody on the spot, but
what about the person that sayswell, you know, it's my right,
it's my body, I got a choice.
What would the Word of God,what would God, what would you
say on the matter?

Caller (31:05):
That's why, to me, this verse speaks directly to me,
speaking of those who have novoice.
Again, the previous callersmade so clear the many verses
that clearly say that we wereHis before we were born, while
we were still being formed inour mother's womb.
We were His, he knew us, and sothey established that.

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Now, to me, to the reader, tothe child of God, the Lord is
telling me what to do, and hewants me to speak up for those
who can't speak up forthemselves, for those who are
appointed to die.
It just speaks so loudly to meI had to share it.

Razz (31:46):
It's very interesting because in my Body, my choice, I
think the unborn baby shouldhave a choice too, right, and
it's an interesting thing thateverybody wants to make a choice
.
Well, they were born, they'realive.
What about the unborn baby?
Miami Shores, if you could saya short prayer, one of those
Mission Impossible prayers, notthe whole program.
We still have the lieutenantgovernor here.

Caller (32:07):
We want to get right back to her, but go ahead.
You got the mic.
Father, I want us all.
I need to keep my eyes on you,lord.
You're the only one thatteaches above the storms is when
our focus is completely on you.
Lord, help us, help thelisteners not be distracted by
arguments, by our own rights,lord, but may we be focused on

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you.
We pray in Jesus' name.

Razz (32:30):
Amen.
Thank you so much for your call.
God bless you.
786-313-3115.
We have Lieutenant GovernorJeanette Nunez here today, a
woman of faith, one of thethings I like about the governor
and I'm not trying to get herto treat me to breakfast because
I already had it, but you knowshe's a mom, she's a wife, she's

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a citizen.
She's not only LieutenantGovernor, but she's a woman that
wants to stand for God.
Lieutenant Governor, I got aquestion for you here.
The amendment is a starkcontrast from many of the things
that you and Governor haveaccomplished for protecting the
sanctity of life and buildingstrong families.
Can you tell us a little bitmore about that?
You have the mic.

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (33:08):
Yeah.
So since the governor and I gotelected in 2018 and
subsequently reelected in 2022,we've really fought each and
every day for Floridians.
We've fought to protectfreedoms, we've fought for
families, and that includesfamilies at all stages.
So, whether we're protectingthe unborn and fighting for life
, also helping those that arehaving difficulties single moms,

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really pushing the issue offatherhood we know that kids
that grow up without fathers aremuch more likely to end up in
trouble with the law, droppingout of high school, having
issues with mental health andsubstance abuse.
So we really have focused onfatherhood, making sure that men
, especially Christian men, riseup and become the leaders of
their family, like God intended.

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We help those that have specialneeds, and so we've really
looked at it from theperspective of how can state
government, in its proper role,really make sure that we're
promoting that culture of life,and so we're proud, on this
amendment in particular, tostand up and fight for life,
fight for the unborn.
They are often those, like theprevious caller said, they don't

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have a voice.
We need to speak for those.
We need to open the eyes ofthose that are professing to be
believers.
You cannot say that you are abeliever.
You cannot stand as a Christian.
You cannot be someone thatprofesses on one side of the
coin and then, on the other, sayyou're going to vote for this
because you believe in choice oryou believe in women's right to

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choose.
So that's something I think wehave to be very clear and that's
why I'm so honored to be hereand a pastor like you, someone
that's speaking the truth,that's not afraid, because many
people are shy away from thistopic because it is
controversial and it does keepcoming back, and voters are, you
know, sometimes confused orexhausted and don't want to deal
with it anymore, and so.
But we have a responsibility asbelievers and as people of

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faith to stand up to be bold andto do what we know is right.

Razz (34:59):
Excellent to hear you say things like about the importance
of fathers, you know.
Excellent to hear you say theimportance of standing for
values that help people andpeople to have values, which is
one of the reasons that you'rehere.
But it's very interesting to mehow, in the days that we're
living, there's likemisinformation, you know, and
the word of God says that thetimes would come that people

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would call right wrong and wrongright.
They would call the light darkand dark light.
They would call bittersweet andsweet bitter.
So it's interesting to hearfrom you the things that you and
Governor DeSantis have beenstanding for, which is an
interesting thing, that when youelect an official, it's not
just about the pretty thingsthey say about during the
election process, but how dothey follow through and carry

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that out?
And obviously right now you'realready elected and you're here
very early in the morning, youknow, in a radio station.
So I asked you a question.
We're going to get to anotherquestion, but eventually it'd be
good to hear why do you thinkthis topic keeps coming up of
wanting to have a door open toexterminate, to kill, to end

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life in a womb, which should bethe place where that baby is
most protected.
We're going to get to that, butI got a call right now.
Let's go to this phone call.
Hey, good morning.
You're.
Live for Jesus.
Whatever town are you callingfrom?
Hello, from Westchester toTamiami.
Okay, you got the mic.
What would you like to say thismorning to our guest here?
Lieutenant Governor.

Caller (36:27):
Thank you so much for coming in this morning.
My question I hope it makessense is what can we as voters
and citizens do in the future toprevent anything like this from
getting this far?
I know there was, or myunderstanding is that there's a
process and a vote and approvalbefore it even gets to the

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ballot.
Is there anything we can do inthe future to stop it earlier.

Razz (36:53):
Thank you for your question.
I'm going to hang up you canlisten as Lieutenant Governor
Nunez will respond and, if I gotyou right, is there anything
that we can do as citizens thatwe don't have to keep going on
this topic every election thatcomes up?
Thank you for your call.
You have a wonderful day.
Station manager.

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (37:11):
Thank you, so that's a great question.
I think a lot of people want toknow how did this come to be?
How did it get on the ballot?
Who approved this?
And so we in Florida do have aprocess.
It's a process that can be ledby citizens to collect enough
signatures to get any issue onthe ballot for consideration for
amending the state constitution, and so that process took place

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.
The Supreme Court ultimatelyhad to sign off on it, and
that's how that got on theballot for this November.
So, as Christians, what can wedo?
There's nothing at the currenttime that you can do to prevent
a process like that from goingthrough and coming to fruition,
but what I can say is that youmay not be able to prevent it

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from getting on the ballot, butyou can certainly prevent it
from being approved, and thisamendment would need to pass
with 60% of the vote.
So the threshold is a littlebit higher than your typical
elections.
You just have to win a majorityright.
Most elections, this issue,these amendments to the
Constitution have to be approvedwith 60% of the vote.
So, if you think about that,what can you do?

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You can, of course, vote no.
That is your duty and yourobligation as a Christian.
You can continue to pray thepower of prayer, as we know, is
something that you cannotdiscount and you can pray that
the Holy Spirit will fill thebelievers with a heart for this
issue and they'll vote againstit.
Of course, if people want todonate to the cause, there's
many organizations and there'smany opportunities to do so and

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then share this information likewe're doing here today, talk to
your family, talk to yourfriends.
Oftentimes, like I said, peopledon't really understand what
they're voting and they'll justoh, I'm just going to vote yes,
whatever.
What difference does it make?
But you need to be informed andyou need to share with family,
friends, like-minded, and evenpeople that are not like-minded,
and try to convince themotherwise.

Razz (38:59):
Conversation, you know to be able to discuss.
You know, that's kind of likethe world that I grew up in.
Today, it's like if you don'tagree with us, we're going to
cancel you, we're going to shutyou off, and that's never the
way for civilized andopen-minded people.
You know, if you're soopen-minded, let's discuss the
why and the how.
There's another question herethat I have for you, lieutenant

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Governor.
You might have mentioned it.
By the way, you're listening toGod's Way Radio 104.7 FM on
your radio dial.
This is the program Live forJesus, monday through Thursdays,
7.04, a live program.
We're in the studio.
Our guest today is LieutenantGovernor Jeanette Nunez.
She's here with us and we'rediscussing this November, the
5th election day.
One of the ballots on theballot is going to be Amendment

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no 4.
And how should a believer thinkthis through?
How should a believer vote?
What vote would protect thelife of the unborn?
Now here's a third question thatwe have for you.
As you mentioned this amendmentto our state's constitution.
That's what we're looking at.
If this is going to pass, ifbelievers don't go to vote, if

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people sleep on this day anddon't take action, so if this
passes, how difficult is itgoing to be to make the changes
to the language.
In other words, can we just sayyou know what we'll cover this
the next time.
How crucial, how important, howvital is this election and this
amendment number four, which Ithink it's already been said

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that if you stand for God andGod's word, the vote should be
no.
We don't want this to changethat.
If you stand for God and God'sword, the vote should be no.
We don't want this to change.
Lieutenant Governor, help usinstruct, us, educate the
listener on this situation.

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (40:36):
So, as we've been talking this morning, this
amendment it's deceptive, it'sextreme, it's dangerous and it's
not what people think it is asthey read the ballot summary, as
they start to process what thisinformation that they're
presented with in the ballotwill mean for them.
And so it'll permit late-termabortions, even through up until
the time of birth.
It will eliminate Florida'sparental consent law, as we

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talked about.
There is a concern that it willallow non-physicians, so
non-doctors, to performabortions, because currently
only physicians can performabortions.
It opens the door totaxpayer-funded abortions,
because currently onlyphysicians can perform abortions
.
It opens the door totaxpayer-funded abortions and
it'll make Florida, as Imentioned earlier in the program
, an abortion tourism state, ifyou will, because, since all the

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other surrounding states havemuch more strict and stringent
laws around abortion, floridacould potentially become a haven
abortion tourism, and so that'ssomething that we're concerned
about long term.
But really and truly, once thisis once, hopefully, we defeat
this, this is something thatwe're going to have to continue
to fight and, god forbid, thisamendment is passed.

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It is not just as easy, as youknow.
Snap your fingers.
A legislature will come backtogether.
They'll be in session in March.
They can address it.
They can strike down provisionsthat they don't agree with.
They can roll back the timeframe in which one can get an
abortion.
That's not something they cando.
It'll be struck down by thecourts.
It is something that, like Isaid, is enshrined in our

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Constitution.
It will be there forgenerations to come and I don't
think we want to be thegeneration responsible for that
kind of amendment to bedictating what we can do here in
Florida as it relates to life.

Razz (42:15):
Lieutenant Governor Nunez, thank you so much for that
clarity.
For you, the listener, I wouldsay as a host, we need to pray.
This is an important issue.
This is not the type of issuethat you know you could sleep
this one, sit this one out, youknow, take a break, walk to the
refrigerator, get some snacks.
No, you got to get involved andI like what the lieutenant
governor brought to mind.
There's many different ways toget involved.

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The question was asked you canactually vote.
You can vote.
No, you can pray, which is whatwe need to do.
Very important you can helpfunding organizations that are
getting the message clearlyacross and not the confusion to
what I would say achieve theirundermined schemes of

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terminating a life in a womb.
Lieutenant Governor, I kind ofspoke a little bit ahead of
myself, but another questionhere is what can our listeners
do to help defeat the amendment?
And although I've heard thatone of the things about radio is
that people are getting to thedestination, like, I'm sure,
everybody here, you're going tobe going on pretty soon, and so
people tune in, and maybe somepeople are tuning in right now

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and that's why I say you'relistening to God's Way Radio.
This is a live program, livefor Jesus, monday through
Thursdays at 7.04 in the morning, and today we have a special
guest with us, lieutenantGovernor Jeanette Nunez, and
we're discussing Amendment no 4on the ballot coming up this
November 5th, which I hopeyou're registered to vote.
I hope you go and vote.
A lot of times things happenbecause we've been sitting it

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out, being too quiet.
You got to get involved becausewe are going to be accountable.
We are going to give anexplanation, a reason why we
either sat it out.
One of the things LieutenantGovernor said which I loved is
hey, don't let this happen inour watch, don't let this pass,
and this being the generationwhere Florida becomes a tourism
state for people to drive in andnot just get the sun, a nice

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state, but they also make aterrible choice of ending the
life of an unborn baby, reallyfor no reason at all.
So, lieutenant Governor Nunez,what can the listeners do?
What can we do about this verysad, tragic choice that's coming
up on the ballot for thecitizens to vote on this

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November the 5th?
You got the mic.

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (44:23):
Pastor Az, I'm glad that you reminded me.
Yes, if you're not registeredto vote, maybe you just turned
18.
Maybe you've never really caredto vote.
You absolutely have a littlebit of time left to register to
vote.
It's fairly simple.
If they call my office, I'll bemore than happy to mail them
the actual ballot for them toregister to vote.

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But I think that we have aresponsibility as believers to
vote, and you also triggeredsomething in my mind that I
wanted to share at the beginningof the program.
You would be shocked you wouldbe shocked, and I think all of
your listeners would be shockedto know how many evangelicals,
self-professed evangelicals,people that consider themselves
devout in their faith, peoplethat consider themselves regular

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churchgoers, that do not voteevery election cycle.
And that is a travesty, becausenot only are you not meeting
your obligation something thatwe have so sacred that many just
90 miles away do not have thatright.
I think that we again, asbelievers, have a responsibility
to vote.
To vote, no elected official isperfect.

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We are far from it.
We are all flawed individuals.
But you know you need to doyour homework.
You need to know who are thetypes of people.
Their values align with you.
They espouse the same views,they're fighting for things that
are important to our faith, andI also think that you need to
be clear on these issues, theseamendments.
They can be confusing.
Trust me, I have to read themand reread them and I you know

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I'm pretty knowledgeable.

Razz (45:49):
You're in the field.

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (45:51):
Yes, I'm in the know, as they say.
But when you read theseamendments you think, oh well,
maybe you know.
It says the ballot summary saysit's not getting rid of the
legislature's authority to doparental notification.
Well, just for people to have aframe of reference, in the
state of Florida, a child, achild, a minor, cannot obtain a

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tattoo without parental consent,but yet this amendment says
it's okay for a child, a12-year-old, a 14-year-old, a
15-year-old, to have an abortion, a very sensitive procedure,
something that could actuallycause them harm or even death.
And so how are you going toallow a child to go in and get
an abortion, like you said,consequences that will be
lifelong and not have parentsinvolved and consenting to that?

Razz (46:35):
If I understand you correctly, you're saying that
this amendment will give theopportunity of a child making a
terrible choice.
They're going to be influencedby someone you know, so they'll
be influenced by a stranger, bysomeone that, lucratively
speaking, is going to make moneyfrom this procedure.
So for the money.
If you follow the trail youknow, follow the money, and yet

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the parent will be eliminatedfrom the equation.

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (47:00):
Yes, they will be completely removed from that
process.
A parental notification issomething as simple, as you know
.
Here you go, here's an email orhere's a note, and so, really,
their goal is to and I thinkthis is Satan's goal it's to
really eliminate the familynucleus.
It's to create chaos and strifein our families, because if we

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don't have healthy families, wedon't have healthy churches, we
don't have healthy communities.
And so I think again, for allof those that are listening and
for those that have theprivilege of leading a
congregation, of being at thepulpit on Sundays, they have a
responsibility and I'm actuallyheartened to see how many
pastors are talking about it andmy own church I know my pastor

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is going to be speaking about itvery soon because, at the end
of the day, you all, inparticular leading God's
children, god's flock you have aresponsibility to educate
people, not about politics.
I know churches don't getinvolved in politics and they
don't get involved in particularcandidates or individuals but
this issue, this issue is soimportant I don't think we can

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sit on the sidelines.
Like you said, you can't waitit out, you can't sit it out.
You can't sit it out.
You have to be very focused ondefeating this amendment.

Razz (48:13):
You're listening to God's Way Radio.
Lieutenant Governor, thank youso much and I'm thanking you,
but you're getting me in troublehere because I need to say
something.
You know, is there any realm oflife that Jesus Christ should
not speak to?
You know, is Jesus the Lord?
Does Jesus have the authorityand the privilege of speaking in
any area of life?
So this thing that has beensold and people have bought it,

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that you know.
Don't discuss politics, wait aminute.
Is politics part of life?
And so if politics is part oflife, then Jesus can speak to
politics and politicians and thepolitical process.
And I am born in an islandwhere the church failed to do
that and it's been travesty andit's been tragedy and it has so
changed and my heart breaksbecause I'm seeing the other

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nation, that kind of like,adopted me and I adopted it and
it's going down very fastly,because this only works, the
democratic process only works,if believers in God participate
in the process.
That's why it was designed.
I mean the Bill of Rights, god,the right to pursue liberty.
I mean you take God to theequation and God speaking to the

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equation.
We're done, it's just a matterof time.
So I would politely, I wouldsay forgive me for saying that,
but in my heart I would say youbetter believe.
I said that I have the right toright to speak.
Lieutenant governor, I havesomebody on the line.
Let's go to this call realquickly.
Hey, good morning your life forjesus.
Whatever your town are youcalling from?
Hi?
Oh, my, my goodness, how oldare you?

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I'm 10, 10 years old.
You're the first 10 year oldthat calls today.
What would you like to say?
You got the mic.

Caller (49:50):
I think that we should not do abortion because there's
little kids that could have beenborn but they're not because
people chose to abort them.

Razz (50:06):
I so love what you're saying.
I mean, even a 10-year-old kidcan get striked from the mouth
of babes.
Thank you so much for that.
Would you like to pray?
Yes, please, okay, wheneveryou're ready, please pray.

Caller (50:16):
Dear Lord, I pray for all the people who are trying to
stop the abortion law frompassing and I pray for all the
little kids whose parents wantto abort them, that they choose
not to.
And I pray for God's way radioand I pray for the person.

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (50:39):
Lieutenant Nunez .

Caller (50:40):
Lieutenant Nunez and I pray for everyone.
Amen.

Razz (50:46):
Amen, amen.
Thank you so much for your call, lieutenant.
Maybe you want to say somethingto our 10-year-old listener.

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (50:51):
I wish people would listen to this morning's
radio program and hear howsimple and how true the words
are that she just spoke.
So thank you for being bold,because not too many
10-year-olds are willing to bethat courageous.

Razz (51:07):
Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Caller (51:08):
I'm actually stepping out to school have a great day,
thank you, thank you, thank you,thank you.
I'm actually stepping out toschool.
Okay, have a great day okay,thank you.

Razz (51:13):
Thank you, god bless you.
Bye-bye.
786-313-315.
We ran out of time, but let'sgo real quickly to this.
Call pembroke pines.

Caller (51:20):
You're on the line oh, I thought it was an hour show.
Oh my god.
Um, I just wanted to say to thechurch that we stand for the
truth.
Of course we stand up forwhat's right, but we have to
remember that many people inthis country have had, many
women have had abortions.
They are not saved or lost bytheir abortion.

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They are saved or lost by therejection or acceptance of Jesus
Christ as their savior.
So do not.
They are not.
I think we have to be carefulto love these people but stand
for the truth.
It's a very difficult stance.
I just that's my comment, thankyou Thank you.
Thank you, Governor.
Lieutenant Governor, Thank youfor being here.

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (52:03):
Thank you, thank you.

Razz (52:04):
Thank you so much for your call.
Pembroke Pines listens veryfaithfully and we did say it.
If you're listening and you'vecommitted an abortion, there's
grace in Jesus for forgivenessand there's new opportunities.
God is a God of opportunity andGod is a God of forgiveness.
Our subject this morning has todo with the vote, with November
the 5th, with the ballot,amendment no 4.

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Amendment number four and so on.
There we want to be veryclearly that we want to instruct
, we want to inform so that youdon't make a mistake that you
have to now repent from.
And so, to have clarity, youwant to vote on the side of God,
on the side of God's word, onthe side of the unborn, and God
will hold us accountable forthat.
There is forgiveness.

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There's forgiveness in JesusChrist, but there's
accountability as a citizen ofthe kingdom.
We have a call here right now.
Hey, good morning.
Your life for Jesus.
What area of town are youcalling from?
I think this is West Miami's inthe house.

Caller (53:01):
Hi, good morning.
Good morning, this is WestMiami.
Thank you, lieutenant GovernorNunez and Governor DeSantis, for
your leadership.
We see the transformation ofour state.
People want to live here.
They're fleeing other statesbecause of how well-run Florida
is, how well-run Florida hasbeen now for about 20 years due

(53:21):
to the leadership that's beenthere.
If you look at it, it'sconsistently been one of the
best states in the union.
My question goes to somethingyou had started with, which is
the lack of definitions in thisAmendment 4.
From my understanding, it seemsto say that when it's necessary
to protect a patient's health,it doesn't specify if it's
mental health and by a healthcare provider, and it doesn't

(53:44):
define a health care provider.
So perhaps, lieutenant GovernorNunez, you can educate me.
I'm not understanding.
Does this mean that apsychologist, a psychiatrist, if
it's determined that a mentalissue has arisen that is causing
some issue with regard to the,the woman, that that is enough
of a basis that it can?

(54:06):
Now it's now a psychologicalissue, the baby's causing
psychological impairment, nowthat's enough to allow for the
abortion, because theproposition doesn't define any
of those terms.
So I just wanted to see whatyour thoughts were and, once
again, thank you for theincredible job y'all are doing.

Razz (54:24):
Thank you, sir, you could listen in.
I'm going to hang up, butLieutenant Governor is going to
answer.

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (54:28):
Well, thank you for that question and, yes,
you're spot on.
You hit the nail on the head.
Those key terms that are in theamendment are not defined in
any way, shape or form.
They could have easily definedviability by putting a date a
week in the trimester.
They could have defined thehealth of the mother.
They could have defined ahealth care provider, but they

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chose not to.
And they chose not to becausethey intentionally designed this
amendment to be deceptive, tobe ambiguous, because what's
going to happen when you say,okay, viability, like I said,
there is not one single standard.
There is a range of whatviability could be, should be,
maybe, but there is many courtsthroughout this country that

(55:12):
would strike down that wouldallow for an abortion to happen
up until week 40.
If a physician or anotherhealth care provider deems that
an abortion is necessary for thehealth and yes, the question
remains, does that includemental health?
If I, as a pregnant woman,decide that I have anxiety and
this pregnancy is causing medepression, would that be

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sufficient for a physician tosign off and say, yes, this is
for the health of the mother?
That is something that is justnot defined in this amendment.
That is something that a courtcould deem, yes, that is indeed
a reason for an abortion.
And so why are we going to godown that road?
Why are we going to go downthat dark path?
We know what happens when weallow for all of these things,

(55:58):
from the secular point of view,to take root in our society.
And you know, you'veconsistently said clarity,
clarity, clarity on thisamendment is important for
believers and non-believers tounderstand what they're voting
for, and that's why, again, Iheart back to the point.
We have a responsibility,especially those that lead
churches throughout ourcommunity.

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As I mentioned, my pastor isdoing a series on clarity is
kindness.
That's how we titled the seriesand at first I didn't really
quite get the reference to thestatement clarity is kindness.
I was like why don't we getsomething more to the point?
But that is the point.
If you're clear in God's word,that's kind and that's
understanding what we have aresponsibility to do as

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believers.

Razz (56:42):
You're listening to, lieutenant Governor Nunez, so
good to have you this morning.
Before we let you go, I havethe final question for you,

(57:12):
which is as a Christian and as aseed of contamination,
everything will topple down.
Uh, you know there was aprophet in the bible that they
were trying to get the prophetto curse israel and he couldn't
do it.
God wouldn't allow him.
And he says I can't curseisrael, but I could tell you how
to topple them.
If you bring immorality intoisrael, it, god, god's heart,
will be hurt and they will loseit.
And so it's funny that theprevious caller said you know,

(57:33):
florida has been an incrediblestate and I want every citizen
of Florida to know that.
You think that this Amendment 4in the ballot is like nothing?
I think it's one of the mostimportant amendments and one of
the most important things tovote on in a very long time.
And here's why Because if weallow this kind of thing to be
introduced as a practice intoour state, god's heart will be

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broken and God will frown on it,because God defends life.
And that's why he said toJeremiah before you were even
born, I knew you.
I knew you in your mother'swomb, and God knows every baby.
And so, lieutenant Governor, asI ask you the question as a
Christian woman, can you leaveus with a message of hope?
People would say well, whatdoes Christ have to do with this
?
You know this is political.

(58:15):
I would say he's got everythingto do with it.
But, lieutenant Governor,whenever you're ready you can
answer the question.
You got the mic.

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (58:22):
Yeah, thank you.
And again, Pastor Oz, thank youfor having me here.
This topic is so important.
It's so important for people offaith, for believers, for
people to understand whatAmendment 4 means, and so you
have to vote no on 4 if you're abeliever.
You have to vote no on 4 if youstand for life and as believers
.
And so many of your callers havereferenced wonderful scripture

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references and they've been ableto talk about the importance of
God's word, and that's whereyou need to turn to when you're
making decisions like this.
God's word is so important.
There is absolute truth inGod's word.
There's not your perspective,my perspective.
There's absolute truth.
God set us apart.
He knew us before.
He formed us in our mother'swomb.
We are fearfully andwonderfully made.

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Children are a blessing.
They're a heritage from theLord.
There are so many Biblereferences that we need to turn
to to be able to stand strongand defeat this amendment.
As believers and Galatianstells us, do not grow weary of
doing good.
At the appropriate time, youwill reap the harvest, and so
this is sowing the seeds for ourcommunity, for your
congregation, for your listeners, for this radio station and for

(59:26):
so many others that are talkingabout this.
I think now is the time to getinformed, to get educated and to
get involved.
Please make sure you'reregistered to vote.
Please share this with yourfriends.
Please vote no on Amendment 4.
Please consider donating to thecause.
There are so many ways forpeople to get involved, and so I
encourage them to do that, tofight this terrible amendment

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and to stand for life.

Razz (59:48):
Excellent For the teenager , for the person that's 19,.
For the person that's notregistered to vote how can they
get registered?
How can you?
Your office, how can theylistener?
The listener maybe you just gotyour citizenship and you
haven't been registered yet.
How can you vote?
Because, if I heard youcorrectly, lieutenant Governor,
this is vital.
We must vote.
I have a phone call also.

(01:00:09):
I don't think we'll be able toget the phone call.
I so apologize.
Lieutenant governor has astringent schedule.
She's giving us some time thismorning.
I hope you'll grace us againand come back one day.
We would love to have you againon the radio, but before you go
, maybe you could giveinformation to the listener.
How can you get registered tovote and how can you get the
information to get your tita,your your grandma, abuelita?

(01:00:29):
Get everybody voting out thereand, if I understood you
correctly, it's a no vote onballot number four If you want
to stand for God, for the wordfor the unborn child.
Lieutenant Governor.
Closing statements.

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (01:00:40):
Yeah, so you can register to vote.
If you live in Miami, dade, youcan go to miamidadegov, look
for the elections tab andthere's a form there you can
fill it out.
It's fairly simple.
You could do it online.
I believe you can also send itvia mail.
My youngest just turned 18earlier this year, so I made
sure he was registered to vote.

Razz (01:00:59):
Good mama.

Lt. Gov. Nuñez (01:00:59):
This is going to be his.
He voted in the primary, buthe's going to vote this is his
first presidential election andof course I'm going to make sure
he's educated and all of hisfriends are educated to vote no
on four.
So, those of you that arelistening, there's still time to
register to vote.
There's still time to getinvolved.
Please do not sit this one out.
Do not wake up on November 5th,rather November 6th, and regret

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that you didn't go out to vote,that you didn't talk more about
it, because it truly is a matterof life and death.

Razz (01:01:26):
Thank you so much.
God bless death.
Thank you so much.
God bless you, your husband,your family, all the guests here
in the studio this morning.
Thank you, I'm going to put alittle bit of music on.
Actually, we're going to go tothe program that's already in
progress.
Again, this has been Life forJesus.
So you can live for JesusMonday through Thursdays, 7.04.
Open the door, We'll give yousome more.

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God bless you.
Bye.