September 20, 2025 • 29 mins
Suicide prevention and supporting those left behind are critical yet often overlooked aspects of mental health care. Dr. Phil from Mental Health America of Southeast Florida shares his personal story and professional insights on helping suicide survivors heal and preventing further tragedies.
Phil Bulone
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• Between 800,000 to 1 million people die by suicide worldwide annually, with each death affecting approximately 135 people
• For every suicide, about 20 people in the deceased's intimate circle experience profound grief and may need specialized support
• Mental Health America's LOSS team provides wraparound services including emotional support, financial assistance, and practical help with funeral arrangements
• Language matters when discussing suicide – phrases like "died by suicide" instead of "committed suicide" help reduce stigma
• Asking someone directly about suicidal thoughts does not put the idea in their mind – it opens necessary communication
• If someone expresses suicidal thoughts, stay with them and contact the 988 crisis line or other emergency services
• Those bereaved by suicide face unique challenges including increased suicide risk themselves, making support groups crucial
• Small acts of kindness and support can make significant differences – you may not save everyone, but saving one person matters
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Shireen Botha (00:35):
Yeah, that's very important and, with that being
said, phil, that is thenon-profit of the month that
we're going to support thismonth and that's the mental
health america of southeastflorida.
Listeners, we will put the linkin the show notes for you to to
(00:56):
reach out.
But, phil, what are some of theways that we could support
mental Health America ofSoutheast Florida?
How are the different ways thatwe can support you guys?
Phil Bulone (01:10):
Yeah, well, we are a local affiliate for Mental
Health America overall.
So, like Mental Health Americais throughout the country and
we're the Southeast Floridaaffiliate.
So, yeah, I mean we, you, youlisteners could, could donate to
our um organization and it'sreal easy to see how to do that.
(01:31):
You go to the um homepage andthere's a a place to click on
the top right hand side thatsays donate, and you could
scroll down and click on theloss team.
Yeah, um, because what we do,um, even more so than just
showing up, is we providewraparound services for for the
families and those um the lovedones.
(01:52):
So, um, you know, sometimesthere's a need for help with
information or expenses or umlodging, because maybe someone
doesn't want to stay in theplace where they found them
right away.
Or, you know, clearly, food orthis might be something to just
(02:13):
to kind of like, you know, kindof prepare your listeners for as
I'm talking about it, becausesomething that maybe folks don't
think about and it could bekind of activating is biohazard
cleaning.
You know, in some ways, thatsomeone dies, you might have to
get biohazard cleaning.
You know, in some ways, thatsomeone dies, you might have to
get biohazard cleaning to cometo the scene or the site and,
interestingly enough, I thinkthis is important to share when
we talk about serving others,and maybe even this idea of
(02:36):
helping people financially whensomeone at a crime scene or when
someone, let's say, dies by youknow as a victim of a crime,
like a homicide or murder.
At least in our area there arevictim compensation programs, so
there could be some money thatcould help people with a sudden
(03:00):
funeral or cremation expense orby house or cleaning or getting
therapy for trauma or a victim.
But because suicide is not acrime I mean, yeah, it used to
be centuries ago in the centurybut there aren't resources
available to help persons thathave just experienced this
sudden traumatic death.
(03:23):
So what we try to do is we tryto come in and fill in the gap.
So you know we, that's where wecome in.
We work with the United Way.
You know we have some funding,but clearly it's not enough to
help all the families that arein need.
So that's a, that's a big wayto help the, help the families.
And then we also run supportgroups ourselves, peer support
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groups.
We have about six or seven amonth, depending upon the theme.
So donations go through helpsupporting the facilitation of
those groups.
And then we do eventsthroughout the year as well
Remembrance events, othercommunity building events,
trauma-informed kind of healingevents, things like that.
Shireen Botha (04:06):
Thank you so much for your work.
We really appreciate you andwhat Loss is doing and you know
there's so many people that aresuffering in silence.
Phil Bulone (04:19):
Yeah.
Shireen Botha (04:47):
And when people get left behind after their
loved ones have committedsuicide by whatever they choose.
However they choose thosepeople left behind.
They've now got to pickthemselves up and try and
survive this world that we, thatwe're living in right now,
which is not a very prettypicture, as right now the world
is actually, um, it's been atits best, it's been better, but
what I'm trying to get at, and Ithink is so important, is you
might not be able to saveeverybody, but you can save one
person.
(05:08):
You can help one person yeah andone person is more than enough
yeah, absolutely because at theend of the day, it's if I think
people I don't know, if peoplejust feel overwhelmed, they go
oh, I can't save everybody, I'mjust not going to try.
But please don't have thatmindset, because if one person,
(05:33):
one kind act, one little bit ofassistance, that donation that
you're going to give to thatmental health organization so
that they can do good for thecommunity, that is more than
enough.
You've got to keep on doing thelittle wins, the little tiny
little acts of kindness that youdon't think is affecting
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anybody or anything.
It is.
It is Because you join another10, another 50, another 100, and
they're all trying to just helpa little bit.
And that little bit, or addedtogether, is a lot.
So please, listeners, take sometime out and really help.
If you can help, give yourlittle bit, however they may
(06:18):
look, just give um and you'reactually it'll enlighten your
life as well.
Phil Bulone (06:26):
So I appreciate you saying that, because just what
you just kind of came up for mewith that is, yeah, the world is
so overwhelming, right, and Iknow personally I could get very
cynical, and I think that's why, when I brought up the whole
quote before, it was like, oh,quotes, and I would be the
change you want to make in theworld.
It's like, well, what can I do?
I'm just like, you know oneperson, right, right, but if
(06:52):
it's anything, I think thatactually Nicole's Nicole was
here to show me that her deathcould teach me was that you know
, one person can make adifference.
Yeah, and that's now how it isfor me moving forward, cause
you're right, you know,something just to kind of add is
that those who've left, thosewho are left behind by suicide
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are, you know, research hasshown that that we are survivors
, you know more vulnerable tosuicide ourselves.
So really, what our programultimately is is a
post-advention program, is tohelp prevent further suicides
after a suicide, right?
So yeah.
So that kind of like even justsaving one life yeah, it's so
(07:38):
profound, so I appreciate youbrought that up.
Shireen Botha (07:39):
Yeah, yeah, Questions you'd like to ask
before.
I yes, Thank you.
Thank you, Dr Phil.
Any more questions you'd liketo ask before?
Tanya Scotece (07:44):
I yes, thank you.
Thank you, dr Phil, for justsharing your journey, your work,
your mission and your visionwith us.
As a funeral director, I haveserved many, many families with
loved ones of suicide in manydifferent ways, from different
ages.
The youngest I served was 11years old and the eldest was
(08:06):
mid-70s.
So quite the range of people.
Would you mind, dr Phil,sharing some, maybe just some,
statistics, some do's and don'tsas far as?
What are the statistics as faras currently that we have
worldwide or nationwide, and ifmaybe you can also share some
(08:26):
things to say and don't say and,you know, just maybe some
helpful tips for all of us tolearn from you?
Phil Bulone (08:34):
Yeah, yeah, well, statistics they are kind of
staggering, I mean.
I believe the World HealthOrganization, you know, shows
that between like 800,000 to amillion people die by suicide
across the world every year andstudies show that for every
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suicide, 135 people are affected.
And even more particular kindof like that could be folks that
hear about it, maybe even, likeyou know, on the news or online
or something.
That's the reach.
But even within that, likeabout 20 persons are in that
that person who's died kind ofintimate circle.
So even just think of that 20people times a million, I mean
(09:19):
that's a lot of people that areaffected by a suicide, yeah,
that are affected by a suicide.
Yeah, statistics generally showthat suicide occurs more in men
than in women.
However, women attempt morebecause sort of some of the
(09:43):
knowledge around that is thatmen are more likely to use a
fatal means like a gun, whereasa woman might use pills.
So that's something that isn't,as let's say, immediately fatal
.
But you know we could talkabout statistics.
(10:05):
But, like I said, I've met with, you know, hundreds of families
over the years and you know,even in my own experience, right
, I mean Nicole used kind of afatal, violent way.
You know that maybe women don'tuse, so like it's really hard
to say, right, suicide does nothave a face, though I mean it.
Like you were kind ofmentioning Dr T.
You know it's all colors,shapes, sizes, faiths,
(10:29):
everything in between, right,unfortunately, we are seeing
more young persons now.
Um, so from a statisticsstandpoint, you know, that would
be kind of like a basicoverview that I can give you at
this time.
Sometimes people think like, oh,it really doesn't happen.
(10:50):
In my community, like whenNicole died, like I was really
like.
I remember thinking about thiswhen I was waiting for the
police to arrive.
I was like, oh, this is likelike five people, like five
people, you know.
And then I come to find outthat in pretty much all of our
big counties here in, you know,in the US, like, let's say, like
with 2 million people inBroward County, we have about
(11:12):
230, let's say, suicides a year,and that's about the ratio.
So where I was living was a bigcounty too.
So it was like, oh, no, it wasnot five people this year, it
was 230, too.
So it was like, oh no, it wasnot five people.
Tanya Scotece (11:26):
this year it was 230.
You know, yeah, that's a lot ofpeople.
Yeah, yeah, um, and how aboutsome tips as far as what to say,
what not to say?
Phil Bulone (11:31):
the do's, yeah yeah , yeah, yeah, you know one thing
, one thing that that about the,the language, and this is not
something that we're likesticklers about, because clearly
, if you know, there's a lot ofsensitivity around speaking
about suicide, especially to anewly suicide bereaved, but we
do try to stay away from theword committed and that's just
become such a phrase though inour society.
(11:54):
You know, committed suicide,but we'd rather say die by
suicide, because it helps tosoften or, you know, kind of
turn away from this idea thatour loved one committed a crime,
or maybe they even committed asin Cause.
You know, that's a whole otherthing, you know we could kind of
go into.
Tanya Scotece (12:14):
Yeah, we have another podcast on that, dr Phil
.
Yeah, yeah, we got a wholething on that.
Phil Bulone (12:17):
So, like the idea of committed you know kind of
you know whether it'sintentionally or not intentional
, you know it kind of reinforcessome of that shame and stigma.
So we say died by suicide, orwe say things like you know they
died by their own hand or theytook their own life.
Some of our survivors, you know, even say you know my so-and-so
(12:43):
, my husband, my wife, my mother, my father, whatnot, died from
their struggle with mentalillness, you know.
And now you're really kind ofopening up a lot more of that
conversation, right.
So those are a couple of thingsyou know.
General things, as I'm sure youknow, as a funeral director, is
that you know, like I know howyou feel.
You know that's not veryhelpful you know, or someone,
(13:07):
sort of equating.
We see this a lot and you knowfolks want to be helpful but
sometimes it's more hurtful.
Like equating a suicide deathjust to like, you know, maybe a
natural death or a death of apet, you know, and I think it's
just because we don't know whatin society, we don't really know
how to deal with grief and loss, let alone, you know, a
(13:28):
stigmatized grief like suicide.
So you're going to sort of wantto search for things and you
want to be compassionate, youwant to help, and you might say
things that are a little bitmore hurtful than helpful.
So just keeping it sort ofsimple Less is more.
So just keeping it sort ofsimple less is more.
Like some folks don't like the Iam so sorry, or I'm sorry, but
(13:48):
you know that's kind of ageneral thing.
You know I'm sorry thishappened in your family, not
like to your family, becausethat kind of again victimizes
folks.
Or you know, if someone'stalking about their feelings,
like rather than I understandhow you feel, more like it is
understandable, so sort of justgeneralize and sort of
(14:08):
neutralize, or, unless it's more, some of these statements, just
, I'm here for you.
That could just be a verysimple one.
I'm here for you, you know.
So those could be some of thesimple ways that you could help
somebody, in sort of speakingterms.
Tanya Scotece (14:20):
Okay, and before we get into our you know
wrapping up our podcast and youknow turning it into a little
bit more of a we'll do a littlelighthearted wrap up session
here, almost like a debrief, Ijust want to ask you, Dr Phil,
can you share with our listenersif somebody is either thinking
about suicide or having suicideideations, or maybe see somebody
(14:45):
in their own circle of friendsor family, you know, is talking
about it the right thing, thewrong thing?
What?
are some notes in that that youcan just leave our listeners
with some nuggets so they can gointo the world and and, uh, you
know, better humans yeah, yeah,yeah.
Phil Bulone (15:01):
So research also shows us that, um, asking
someone the question aboutsuicide will not, or is not or
does not put the idea insomeone's mind.
So because sometimes I thinkthat's why people are fearful of
that is that even if they'rekind of even thinking like, oh
well, this person might you know, or even just kind of asking
(15:22):
someone, it's a very scary thingand you know.
So have the confidence inknowing that if you feel like
someone is going through astruggle, that you can ask them
about their suicidal thoughts.
And there's a couple of ways toask.
You ask directly.
You don't preface it like with,oh, you're not really thinking
(15:44):
about doing it, because thenyou're already kind of shaming
someone.
Or you know, you just got to bereal direct and empathetic
about it.
Like you know, are you havingsuicidal thoughts, you know.
Are you thinking about killingyourself?
Are you thinking about takingyour life?
You know, those are three waysthat we're trained on how to ask
.
Saying things like are youthinking about hurting yourself?
Know how to ask um sayingthings like when you're thinking
(16:06):
about hurting yourself.
Tanya Scotece (16:06):
That's different, but go ahead.
What if the answer is yes?
What do you do?
So now we have the question.
Phil Bulone (16:08):
So then, if the answer is yes, you know, because
it's very scary.
So, you know, in a certainsense, be aware, to stay calm.
Um, you could immediately callthe 988 crisis line.
Um, now, I don't know if that'sinternational, but clearly in
the United States, right.
(16:29):
So, call a crisis line 988.
They changed it recently tomake it simpler.
So, like there's 911, right youcall that for like a police
emergency or a law enforcementright or a rescue emergency, you
could call 988 if someone'shaving suicidal thoughts, okay,
but there's also another sort ofelement to this, because
(16:50):
someone might be having thoughtsand you want to get them to a
crisis line.
You don't want to leave themalone, you want to get them to
the next level of help or care.
Maybe they have a therapistthat you could get on the phone
with them.
Do you want to get someonethat's having thoughts to that
next higher level of care, likea crisis line or maybe like a
therapist, without leaving themalone, staying on the phone with
them, calling for them, thatsort of thing?
(17:11):
If someone is thinking aboutsuicide and then they've
mentioned, or if there was anindication, or even if you asked
if they had a plan or like, doyou know when you're going to do
it or how you're going to do it, and they say yes or they
describe any parts of that toyou, then you're going to want
to call for immediate help,intervention, yeah, intervention
(17:35):
, and there's a couple of waysyou could do that in your
community.
I mean, first and foremost, ifyou want to call the police, do
so.
You call 9-1-1, you call thepolice, and many areas have
what's called a crisisintervention trained or critical
incident trained officer thatcould come with more knowledge
about how to deal with mentalhealth crises.
Because, again, some folks mightnot want to call police on
someone because they think, oh,they're going to come and get
(17:56):
arrested or put handcuffs andthey're going to be taken to a
psychiatric hospital, which maybe the case and it may be the
safest thing for them at thattime.
But rather than sort ofthinking about all the what ifs
and your struggle with that, youknow, ask for an officer who's
trained in these types ofsituations, right, some areas
have what's called mobileresponse teams, like we have
(18:19):
here in Fort Lauderdale andMiami, and that would be a team
that could come out.
If someone's not in immediateacting on their suicide ideation
.
Still, if they're thinkingabout it and maybe you just see
they need, maybe they're notacting right, they're saying
they hear voices, even thingslike that A mobile response team
of trained clinicians couldcome out and do an evaluation
(18:42):
and then see if that personwould need to be hospitalized.
So there's a lot of differentways, but if anything to leave
with your listeners, it's.
You know, get that person to the988 crisis line.
You know, don't leave themalone.
Check in on them.
If someone's even just sayingthey're thinking about killing
themselves, whether they'reintent is real or not, it's
(19:06):
still a cry for help.
So it's an opportunity to openup that connection, to get a
person to the next level of care.
Shireen Botha (19:13):
Right Well, thank you very much.
Tanya Scotece (19:16):
I'll leave with this, dr Phil, I'll close out my
session and then I'll turn itover to Shereen.
If you want to share with ourlisteners, maybe one to three,
what's your vision?
What's your mission?
What do you want them to getfrom your podcast?
Is there anything that you needor want or share?
So what would be your one tothree things just to share with
(19:38):
the world?
Phil Bulone (19:39):
Yeah, absolutely Absolutely, that you're not
alone, that you're not alone inany of your mental health,
whether it's struggles orwhatnot, so you're not alone.
Reach out for others andconnect.
If you are having suicidalthoughts or know that of someone
who is, get them to 988,.
(20:01):
Get them to local one-on-onetherapists.
Check in with each other.
Yeah, and then, um, I guess,thirdly, just yeah, support,
support those programs out therethat are, um, that are doing
this kind of work.
So support your local loss teamand we'd love for you to help
support mental health.
America of Southeast Florida.
Tanya Scotece (20:22):
Awesome, amazing, dr Phil, I'll turn it back over
to Shireen and any last minutequestions and then we'll do
probably a lighthearted exerciseto wrap us up.
Shireen Botha (20:31):
Well, actually, actually, with that, I just I
don't want to.
I think what we've beenspeaking about here is very
serious, and we are doing thisin the month of September for
Suicide Month.
I don't want to.
I don't.
(20:52):
It just doesn't feel right tonow play a game.
So I'm going to skip that partand I'm going to rather just say
you know, listeners, you'veheard it here, you've heard all
the questions and Phil reallysharing his heart heard all the
(21:12):
questions and Phil reallysharing his hearts.
And we have a non-profit forthis month to help with people
that, unfortunately, have beenleft behind and have gone
through an experience of someoneloved one taking their life, or
you might know of someone thatyou have a hint that they're
struggling and you you want totry and offer some help to them.
(21:34):
We've given you a whole lot ofhelplines.
We've given you ways to support.
We'd really appreciate youseriously to think about how you
can support your own community.
There's a mental healthorganization for every country,
internationally, locally, soplease do your bit.
Tanya Scotece (22:01):
Shireen, may I do a debriefing exercise?
We won't call it a game, butmay I do a debriefing exercise
with both of you?
Okay, so no, the reason is isbecause, as funeral directors,
there's a process that we dowhen we're dealing with such
strong emotions that may bringup during a hour, two hour
timeframe.
So, as our listeners, if you'relistening to this entire
(22:24):
podcast and I have my friendsShereen and Dr Phil with us this
morning as we debrief I justwant everybody to just inhale
deeply through your nose.
Try to hold for five, four,three, two, one.
Release through your mouthslowly.
We don't want to hyperventilate.
Let's do that two more times inthrough your nose.
(22:45):
We don't want to hyperventilate.
Let's do that two more times.
In through your nose.
Five, four, three, two, one.
Release through your mouthslowly and one more time In
through your nose.
Deep, deep breath.
As we go out into the world,exhale through our mouth Five,
(23:07):
four, three, two, one, as slowas we can go.
And I'm just going to ask you acouple of questions just as we
close out this most intensepodcast, but very, very
open-minded, as we go sharingour kindness in the world.
So I'm going to ask yourfavorite book that you could
(23:29):
share with our listeners,whether it has to do with
inspiration, motivation or justyour all time favorite book.
So, dr Phil, what would youwant to share for your favorite
book?
Phil Bulone (23:39):
Well, you did.
I'd have to say the Bible.
Tanya Scotece (23:43):
The Bible.
Okay, okay, okay.
And then I want to ask you alittle bit more specific on the
Bible.
Do you just randomly pick it upand open to a page and that's
your page of the day that you'resupposed to learn something, or
how do you read it?
Phil Bulone (23:57):
Yeah, I mean, I've read it, I read it all, but open
it up and you know I don't saythat in a way that sort of like,
you know, impose a certain viewor anything.
It's more about just eternalwisdom, you know, and eternal
universal wisdom.
You know, as I study different,different faith traditions, you
(24:21):
know there's so many commonthemes, so what I love to get is
out of the Bible are clearlythose common simple?
Tanya Scotece (24:23):
simple themes.
Yeah, simple themes, simple.
Okay, that's the.
That's the that's the theme oftoday.
It's like keep it simple, keepit simple.
Exactly that's the that's the.
Phil Bulone (24:28):
That's the theme of today.
It's like keep it simple.
Keep it simple, exactly.
There's so much, but in realityit's really just simple.
Tanya Scotece (24:34):
Yeah, all right, shireen, how about you a book,
motivation, inspiration,something that?
Just what do you want to sharewith our listeners?
Shireen Botha (24:43):
um it's, I'm just gonna keep it last,
hearthearted.
I always love the Lord of theRings.
Those are always my go-to booksto read, so yeah.
Tanya Scotece (24:52):
Awesome, awesome.
And my favorite still has notchanged.
It is the Body Keeps the Score,and I think that kind of ties
into Dr Phil's mission.
As far as releasing, sometimeswe have emotions that get
trapped within us.
Releasing Sometimes we haveemotions that get trapped within
us and whether you're a chakratype person or just whether
you're holistic, eastern orWestern medicine, sometimes we
(25:14):
have emotions that get trapped.
And if you suffer from chronicheadaches, stomach aches, back
aches, sore throats, anythinglike that, read the body keeps
the score.
It will literally help youdisengage the emotions that are
locked in your body.
So people through a shockrelease generally have a really
(25:35):
tremendous way to do.
All right, and last, before weclose out, what is one technique
when you just get overloaded?
What is, what is one thing thatyou can just count on every
time to do?
Is it music?
Is it getting your favoritefood?
Is it going to sleep?
Is it?
What is it?
So, dr phil, we'll start withyou yeah, definitely, art,
(25:56):
definitely.
Phil Bulone (25:57):
Like I know, I know when I need to make a piece of
art, that helps.
Tanya Scotece (26:02):
All right.
And shereen, how about you?
You're super stressed.
What's one thing that you canalways count on to do that will
bring you grounded?
That would be hiking, hiking.
Okay, all right, and I willconclude with my pillow.
My pillow is my safe space, soif I just have to take a break,
meditate, sleep, my pillow is mygo-to.
(26:25):
So, shireen, I'm going toexpect you got to check with
your parents and find out whatyour?
word was so we can have a parttwo of this podcast and we'll
continue on that.
So all right, listeners.
For my part, I leave you withfriends from wild places.
It's been amazing journey thismorning.
And where can we find you?
Where can we find you, dr Phil?
(26:46):
If we want to find moreinformation, our listeners want
to get in touch with you.
Maybe they have more questions,maybe they would like you to be
a guest speaker at theirorganization for you know, maybe
some you know holisticexercises, even team building
workshops.
I do appreciate you coming intoMiami Dade College our
restorative art class and youdid a phenomenal workshop there.
(27:09):
Our students are still talkingabout it, so I definitely want
to have you back in ourclassroom.
But where can people find youNot only students when can
people find you?
Phil Bulone (27:18):
Yeah, I shared with Shireen my LinkedIn profile and
my email and my personal phonenumber, so yeah, Okay, so
Shireen will get that in theshow notes.
Tanya Scotece (27:28):
And how about you , Shireen?
Where can our listeners findyou?
Maybe they want to be a futureguest on the podcast.
Maybe they have bookkeepingneeds.
Where can our listeners findyou?
Shireen Botha (27:37):
Well, let's start with you, Tanya, and then we'll
end with me How's that?
Tanya Scotece (27:41):
Okay, okay.
So for folks finding me, manyof the listeners know I am a
licensed funeral director inBalmer in the state of Florida.
I oversee the mortuary programat Miami Dade College, so
anybody that's interested inpursuing a career in funeral
directing definitely can reachout to me.
I also work in the senior space, matching people with
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communities who can no longerlive alone, perhaps due to
cognitive or physical challenges, and I also serve as an expert
witness in the funeral home andcemetery cases.
So for folks finding me, I dolive on LinkedIn.
You can find me at TanyaScotisi LinkedIn profile is
right there for all three areasof need or if you just have
(28:26):
something that you would likemore information on that I've
talked about this morning.
Back to you, shireen.
Shireen Botha (28:31):
Sounds wonderful.
Thank you so much, tanya, fordoing that.
So, yes, you'll find me onLinkedIn as well with Tanya.
Shireen Botha, as well asShireen's Bookkeeping Services,
is the business that I run.
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Shireen Botha (00:35):
Yeah, that's very important and, with that being
said, phil, that is thenon-profit of the month that
we're going to support thismonth and that's the mental
health america of southeastflorida.
Listeners, we will put the linkin the show notes for you to to
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reach out.
But, phil, what are some of theways that we could support
mental Health America ofSoutheast Florida?
How are the different ways thatwe can support you guys?
Phil Bulone (01:10):
Yeah, well, we are a local affiliate for Mental
Health America overall.
So, like Mental Health Americais throughout the country and
we're the Southeast Floridaaffiliate.
So, yeah, I mean we, you, youlisteners could, could donate to
our um organization and it'sreal easy to see how to do that.
(01:31):
You go to the um homepage andthere's a a place to click on
the top right hand side thatsays donate, and you could
scroll down and click on theloss team.
Yeah, um, because what we do,um, even more so than just
showing up, is we providewraparound services for for the
families and those um the lovedones.
(01:52):
So, um, you know, sometimesthere's a need for help with
information or expenses or umlodging, because maybe someone
doesn't want to stay in theplace where they found them
right away.
Or, you know, clearly, food orthis might be something to just
(02:13):
to kind of like, you know, kindof prepare your listeners for as
I'm talking about it, becausesomething that maybe folks don't
think about and it could bekind of activating is biohazard
cleaning.
You know, in some ways, thatsomeone dies, you might have to
get biohazard cleaning.
You know, in some ways, thatsomeone dies, you might have to
get biohazard cleaning to cometo the scene or the site and,
interestingly enough, I thinkthis is important to share when
we talk about serving others,and maybe even this idea of
(02:36):
helping people financially whensomeone at a crime scene or when
someone, let's say, dies by youknow as a victim of a crime,
like a homicide or murder.
At least in our area there arevictim compensation programs, so
there could be some money thatcould help people with a sudden
(03:00):
funeral or cremation expense orby house or cleaning or getting
therapy for trauma or a victim.
But because suicide is not acrime I mean, yeah, it used to
be centuries ago in the centurybut there aren't resources
available to help persons thathave just experienced this
sudden traumatic death.
(03:23):
So what we try to do is we tryto come in and fill in the gap.
So you know we, that's where wecome in.
We work with the United Way.
You know we have some funding,but clearly it's not enough to
help all the families that arein need.
So that's a, that's a big wayto help the, help the families.
And then we also run supportgroups ourselves, peer support
(03:45):
groups.
We have about six or seven amonth, depending upon the theme.
So donations go through helpsupporting the facilitation of
those groups.
And then we do eventsthroughout the year as well
Remembrance events, othercommunity building events,
trauma-informed kind of healingevents, things like that.
Shireen Botha (04:06):
Thank you so much for your work.
We really appreciate you andwhat Loss is doing and you know
there's so many people that aresuffering in silence.
Phil Bulone (04:19):
Yeah.
Shireen Botha (04:47):
And when people get left behind after their
loved ones have committedsuicide by whatever they choose.
However they choose thosepeople left behind.
They've now got to pickthemselves up and try and
survive this world that we, thatwe're living in right now,
which is not a very prettypicture, as right now the world
is actually, um, it's been atits best, it's been better, but
what I'm trying to get at, and Ithink is so important, is you
might not be able to saveeverybody, but you can save one
person.
(05:08):
You can help one person yeah andone person is more than enough
yeah, absolutely because at theend of the day, it's if I think
people I don't know, if peoplejust feel overwhelmed, they go
oh, I can't save everybody, I'mjust not going to try.
But please don't have thatmindset, because if one person,
(05:33):
one kind act, one little bit ofassistance, that donation that
you're going to give to thatmental health organization so
that they can do good for thecommunity, that is more than
enough.
You've got to keep on doing thelittle wins, the little tiny
little acts of kindness that youdon't think is affecting
(05:54):
anybody or anything.
It is.
It is Because you join another10, another 50, another 100, and
they're all trying to just helpa little bit.
And that little bit, or addedtogether, is a lot.
So please, listeners, take sometime out and really help.
If you can help, give yourlittle bit, however they may
(06:18):
look, just give um and you'reactually it'll enlighten your
life as well.
Phil Bulone (06:26):
So I appreciate you saying that, because just what
you just kind of came up for mewith that is, yeah, the world is
so overwhelming, right, and Iknow personally I could get very
cynical, and I think that's why, when I brought up the whole
quote before, it was like, oh,quotes, and I would be the
change you want to make in theworld.
It's like, well, what can I do?
I'm just like, you know oneperson, right, right, but if
(06:52):
it's anything, I think thatactually Nicole's Nicole was
here to show me that her deathcould teach me was that you know
, one person can make adifference.
Yeah, and that's now how it isfor me moving forward, cause
you're right, you know,something just to kind of add is
that those who've left, thosewho are left behind by suicide
(07:14):
are, you know, research hasshown that that we are survivors
, you know more vulnerable tosuicide ourselves.
So really, what our programultimately is is a
post-advention program, is tohelp prevent further suicides
after a suicide, right?
So yeah.
So that kind of like even justsaving one life yeah, it's so
(07:38):
profound, so I appreciate youbrought that up.
Shireen Botha (07:39):
Yeah, yeah, Questions you'd like to ask
before.
I yes, Thank you.
Thank you, Dr Phil.
Any more questions you'd liketo ask before?
Tanya Scotece (07:44):
I yes, thank you.
Thank you, dr Phil, for justsharing your journey, your work,
your mission and your visionwith us.
As a funeral director, I haveserved many, many families with
loved ones of suicide in manydifferent ways, from different
ages.
The youngest I served was 11years old and the eldest was
(08:06):
mid-70s.
So quite the range of people.
Would you mind, dr Phil,sharing some, maybe just some,
statistics, some do's and don'tsas far as?
What are the statistics as faras currently that we have
worldwide or nationwide, and ifmaybe you can also share some
(08:26):
things to say and don't say and,you know, just maybe some
helpful tips for all of us tolearn from you?
Phil Bulone (08:34):
Yeah, yeah, well, statistics they are kind of
staggering, I mean.
I believe the World HealthOrganization, you know, shows
that between like 800,000 to amillion people die by suicide
across the world every year andstudies show that for every
(08:55):
suicide, 135 people are affected.
And even more particular kindof like that could be folks that
hear about it, maybe even, likeyou know, on the news or online
or something.
That's the reach.
But even within that, likeabout 20 persons are in that
that person who's died kind ofintimate circle.
So even just think of that 20people times a million, I mean
(09:19):
that's a lot of people that areaffected by a suicide, yeah,
that are affected by a suicide.
Yeah, statistics generally showthat suicide occurs more in men
than in women.
However, women attempt morebecause sort of some of the
(09:43):
knowledge around that is thatmen are more likely to use a
fatal means like a gun, whereasa woman might use pills.
So that's something that isn't,as let's say, immediately fatal
.
But you know we could talkabout statistics.
(10:05):
But, like I said, I've met with, you know, hundreds of families
over the years and you know,even in my own experience, right
, I mean Nicole used kind of afatal, violent way.
You know that maybe women don'tuse, so like it's really hard
to say, right, suicide does nothave a face, though I mean it.
Like you were kind ofmentioning Dr T.
You know it's all colors,shapes, sizes, faiths,
(10:29):
everything in between, right,unfortunately, we are seeing
more young persons now.
Um, so from a statisticsstandpoint, you know, that would
be kind of like a basicoverview that I can give you at
this time.
Sometimes people think like, oh,it really doesn't happen.
(10:50):
In my community, like whenNicole died, like I was really
like.
I remember thinking about thiswhen I was waiting for the
police to arrive.
I was like, oh, this is likelike five people, like five
people, you know.
And then I come to find outthat in pretty much all of our
big counties here in, you know,in the US, like, let's say, like
with 2 million people inBroward County, we have about
(11:12):
230, let's say, suicides a year,and that's about the ratio.
So where I was living was a bigcounty too.
So it was like, oh, no, it wasnot five people this year, it
was 230, too.
So it was like, oh no, it wasnot five people.
Tanya Scotece (11:26):
this year it was 230.
You know, yeah, that's a lot ofpeople.
Yeah, yeah, um, and how aboutsome tips as far as what to say,
what not to say?
Phil Bulone (11:31):
the do's, yeah yeah , yeah, yeah, you know one thing
, one thing that that about the,the language, and this is not
something that we're likesticklers about, because clearly
, if you know, there's a lot ofsensitivity around speaking
about suicide, especially to anewly suicide bereaved, but we
do try to stay away from theword committed and that's just
become such a phrase though inour society.
(11:54):
You know, committed suicide,but we'd rather say die by
suicide, because it helps tosoften or, you know, kind of
turn away from this idea thatour loved one committed a crime,
or maybe they even committed asin Cause.
You know, that's a whole otherthing, you know we could kind of
go into.
Tanya Scotece (12:14):
Yeah, we have another podcast on that, dr Phil
.
Yeah, yeah, we got a wholething on that.
Phil Bulone (12:17):
So, like the idea of committed you know kind of
you know whether it'sintentionally or not intentional
, you know it kind of reinforcessome of that shame and stigma.
So we say died by suicide, orwe say things like you know they
died by their own hand or theytook their own life.
Some of our survivors, you know, even say you know my so-and-so
(12:43):
, my husband, my wife, my mother, my father, whatnot, died from
their struggle with mentalillness, you know.
And now you're really kind ofopening up a lot more of that
conversation, right.
So those are a couple of thingsyou know.
General things, as I'm sure youknow, as a funeral director, is
that you know, like I know howyou feel.
You know that's not veryhelpful you know, or someone,
(13:07):
sort of equating.
We see this a lot and you knowfolks want to be helpful but
sometimes it's more hurtful.
Like equating a suicide deathjust to like, you know, maybe a
natural death or a death of apet, you know, and I think it's
just because we don't know whatin society, we don't really know
how to deal with grief and loss, let alone, you know, a
(13:28):
stigmatized grief like suicide.
So you're going to sort of wantto search for things and you
want to be compassionate, youwant to help, and you might say
things that are a little bitmore hurtful than helpful.
So just keeping it sort ofsimple Less is more.
So just keeping it sort ofsimple less is more.
Like some folks don't like the Iam so sorry, or I'm sorry, but
(13:48):
you know that's kind of ageneral thing.
You know I'm sorry thishappened in your family, not
like to your family, becausethat kind of again victimizes
folks.
Or you know, if someone'stalking about their feelings,
like rather than I understandhow you feel, more like it is
understandable, so sort of justgeneralize and sort of
(14:08):
neutralize, or, unless it's more, some of these statements, just
, I'm here for you.
That could just be a verysimple one.
I'm here for you, you know.
So those could be some of thesimple ways that you could help
somebody, in sort of speakingterms.
Tanya Scotece (14:20):
Okay, and before we get into our you know
wrapping up our podcast and youknow turning it into a little
bit more of a we'll do a littlelighthearted wrap up session
here, almost like a debrief, Ijust want to ask you, Dr Phil,
can you share with our listenersif somebody is either thinking
about suicide or having suicideideations, or maybe see somebody
(14:45):
in their own circle of friendsor family, you know, is talking
about it the right thing, thewrong thing?
What?
are some notes in that that youcan just leave our listeners
with some nuggets so they can gointo the world and and, uh, you
know, better humans yeah, yeah,yeah.
Phil Bulone (15:01):
So research also shows us that, um, asking
someone the question aboutsuicide will not, or is not or
does not put the idea insomeone's mind.
So because sometimes I thinkthat's why people are fearful of
that is that even if they'rekind of even thinking like, oh
well, this person might you know, or even just kind of asking
(15:22):
someone, it's a very scary thingand you know.
So have the confidence inknowing that if you feel like
someone is going through astruggle, that you can ask them
about their suicidal thoughts.
And there's a couple of ways toask.
You ask directly.
You don't preface it like with,oh, you're not really thinking
(15:44):
about doing it, because thenyou're already kind of shaming
someone.
Or you know, you just got to bereal direct and empathetic
about it.
Like you know, are you havingsuicidal thoughts, you know.
Are you thinking about killingyourself?
Are you thinking about takingyour life?
You know, those are three waysthat we're trained on how to ask
.
Saying things like are youthinking about hurting yourself?
Know how to ask um sayingthings like when you're thinking
(16:06):
about hurting yourself.
Tanya Scotece (16:06):
That's different, but go ahead.
What if the answer is yes?
What do you do?
So now we have the question.
Phil Bulone (16:08):
So then, if the answer is yes, you know, because
it's very scary.
So, you know, in a certainsense, be aware, to stay calm.
Um, you could immediately callthe 988 crisis line.
Um, now, I don't know if that'sinternational, but clearly in
the United States, right.
(16:29):
So, call a crisis line 988.
They changed it recently tomake it simpler.
So, like there's 911, right youcall that for like a police
emergency or a law enforcementright or a rescue emergency, you
could call 988 if someone'shaving suicidal thoughts, okay,
but there's also another sort ofelement to this, because
(16:50):
someone might be having thoughtsand you want to get them to a
crisis line.
You don't want to leave themalone, you want to get them to
the next level of help or care.
Maybe they have a therapistthat you could get on the phone
with them.
Do you want to get someonethat's having thoughts to that
next higher level of care, likea crisis line or maybe like a
therapist, without leaving themalone, staying on the phone with
them, calling for them, thatsort of thing?
(17:11):
If someone is thinking aboutsuicide and then they've
mentioned, or if there was anindication, or even if you asked
if they had a plan or like, doyou know when you're going to do
it or how you're going to do it, and they say yes or they
describe any parts of that toyou, then you're going to want
to call for immediate help,intervention, yeah, intervention
(17:35):
, and there's a couple of waysyou could do that in your
community.
I mean, first and foremost, ifyou want to call the police, do
so.
You call 9-1-1, you call thepolice, and many areas have
what's called a crisisintervention trained or critical
incident trained officer thatcould come with more knowledge
about how to deal with mentalhealth crises.
Because, again, some folks mightnot want to call police on
someone because they think, oh,they're going to come and get
(17:56):
arrested or put handcuffs andthey're going to be taken to a
psychiatric hospital, which maybe the case and it may be the
safest thing for them at thattime.
But rather than sort ofthinking about all the what ifs
and your struggle with that, youknow, ask for an officer who's
trained in these types ofsituations, right, some areas
have what's called mobileresponse teams, like we have
(18:19):
here in Fort Lauderdale andMiami, and that would be a team
that could come out.
If someone's not in immediateacting on their suicide ideation
.
Still, if they're thinkingabout it and maybe you just see
they need, maybe they're notacting right, they're saying
they hear voices, even thingslike that A mobile response team
of trained clinicians couldcome out and do an evaluation
(18:42):
and then see if that personwould need to be hospitalized.
So there's a lot of differentways, but if anything to leave
with your listeners, it's.
You know, get that person to the988 crisis line.
You know, don't leave themalone.
Check in on them.
If someone's even just sayingthey're thinking about killing
themselves, whether they'reintent is real or not, it's
(19:06):
still a cry for help.
So it's an opportunity to openup that connection, to get a
person to the next level of care.
Shireen Botha (19:13):
Right Well, thank you very much.
Tanya Scotece (19:16):
I'll leave with this, dr Phil, I'll close out my
session and then I'll turn itover to Shereen.
If you want to share with ourlisteners, maybe one to three,
what's your vision?
What's your mission?
What do you want them to getfrom your podcast?
Is there anything that you needor want or share?
So what would be your one tothree things just to share with
(19:38):
the world?
Phil Bulone (19:39):
Yeah, absolutely Absolutely, that you're not
alone, that you're not alone inany of your mental health,
whether it's struggles orwhatnot, so you're not alone.
Reach out for others andconnect.
If you are having suicidalthoughts or know that of someone
who is, get them to 988,.
(20:01):
Get them to local one-on-onetherapists.
Check in with each other.
Yeah, and then, um, I guess,thirdly, just yeah, support,
support those programs out therethat are, um, that are doing
this kind of work.
So support your local loss teamand we'd love for you to help
support mental health.
America of Southeast Florida.
Tanya Scotece (20:22):
Awesome, amazing, dr Phil, I'll turn it back over
to Shireen and any last minutequestions and then we'll do
probably a lighthearted exerciseto wrap us up.
Shireen Botha (20:31):
Well, actually, actually, with that, I just I
don't want to.
I think what we've beenspeaking about here is very
serious, and we are doing thisin the month of September for
Suicide Month.
I don't want to.
I don't.
(20:52):
It just doesn't feel right tonow play a game.
So I'm going to skip that partand I'm going to rather just say
you know, listeners, you'veheard it here, you've heard all
the questions and Phil reallysharing his heart heard all the
(21:12):
questions and Phil reallysharing his hearts.
And we have a non-profit forthis month to help with people
that, unfortunately, have beenleft behind and have gone
through an experience of someoneloved one taking their life, or
you might know of someone thatyou have a hint that they're
struggling and you you want totry and offer some help to them.
(21:34):
We've given you a whole lot ofhelplines.
We've given you ways to support.
We'd really appreciate youseriously to think about how you
can support your own community.
There's a mental healthorganization for every country,
internationally, locally, soplease do your bit.
Tanya Scotece (22:01):
Shireen, may I do a debriefing exercise?
We won't call it a game, butmay I do a debriefing exercise
with both of you?
Okay, so no, the reason is isbecause, as funeral directors,
there's a process that we dowhen we're dealing with such
strong emotions that may bringup during a hour, two hour
timeframe.
So, as our listeners, if you'relistening to this entire
(22:24):
podcast and I have my friendsShereen and Dr Phil with us this
morning as we debrief I justwant everybody to just inhale
deeply through your nose.
Try to hold for five, four,three, two, one.
Release through your mouthslowly.
We don't want to hyperventilate.
Let's do that two more times inthrough your nose.
(22:45):
We don't want to hyperventilate.
Let's do that two more times.
In through your nose.
Five, four, three, two, one.
Release through your mouthslowly and one more time In
through your nose.
Deep, deep breath.
As we go out into the world,exhale through our mouth Five,
(23:07):
four, three, two, one, as slowas we can go.
And I'm just going to ask you acouple of questions just as we
close out this most intensepodcast, but very, very
open-minded, as we go sharingour kindness in the world.
So I'm going to ask yourfavorite book that you could
(23:29):
share with our listeners,whether it has to do with
inspiration, motivation or justyour all time favorite book.
So, dr Phil, what would youwant to share for your favorite
book?
Phil Bulone (23:39):
Well, you did.
I'd have to say the Bible.
Tanya Scotece (23:43):
The Bible.
Okay, okay, okay.
And then I want to ask you alittle bit more specific on the
Bible.
Do you just randomly pick it upand open to a page and that's
your page of the day that you'resupposed to learn something, or
how do you read it?
Phil Bulone (23:57):
Yeah, I mean, I've read it, I read it all, but open
it up and you know I don't saythat in a way that sort of like,
you know, impose a certain viewor anything.
It's more about just eternalwisdom, you know, and eternal
universal wisdom.
You know, as I study different,different faith traditions, you
(24:21):
know there's so many commonthemes, so what I love to get is
out of the Bible are clearlythose common simple?
Tanya Scotece (24:23):
simple themes.
Yeah, simple themes, simple.
Okay, that's the.
That's the that's the theme oftoday.
It's like keep it simple, keepit simple.
Exactly that's the that's the.
Phil Bulone (24:28):
That's the theme of today.
It's like keep it simple.
Keep it simple, exactly.
There's so much, but in realityit's really just simple.
Tanya Scotece (24:34):
Yeah, all right, shireen, how about you a book,
motivation, inspiration,something that?
Just what do you want to sharewith our listeners?
Shireen Botha (24:43):
um it's, I'm just gonna keep it last,
hearthearted.
I always love the Lord of theRings.
Those are always my go-to booksto read, so yeah.
Tanya Scotece (24:52):
Awesome, awesome.
And my favorite still has notchanged.
It is the Body Keeps the Score,and I think that kind of ties
into Dr Phil's mission.
As far as releasing, sometimeswe have emotions that get
trapped within us.
Releasing Sometimes we haveemotions that get trapped within
us and whether you're a chakratype person or just whether
you're holistic, eastern orWestern medicine, sometimes we
(25:14):
have emotions that get trapped.
And if you suffer from chronicheadaches, stomach aches, back
aches, sore throats, anythinglike that, read the body keeps
the score.
It will literally help youdisengage the emotions that are
locked in your body.
So people through a shockrelease generally have a really
(25:35):
tremendous way to do.
All right, and last, before weclose out, what is one technique
when you just get overloaded?
What is, what is one thing thatyou can just count on every
time to do?
Is it music?
Is it getting your favoritefood?
Is it going to sleep?
Is it?
What is it?
So, dr phil, we'll start withyou yeah, definitely, art,
(25:56):
definitely.
Phil Bulone (25:57):
Like I know, I know when I need to make a piece of
art, that helps.
Tanya Scotece (26:02):
All right.
And shereen, how about you?
You're super stressed.
What's one thing that you canalways count on to do that will
bring you grounded?
That would be hiking, hiking.
Okay, all right, and I willconclude with my pillow.
My pillow is my safe space, soif I just have to take a break,
meditate, sleep, my pillow is mygo-to.
(26:25):
So, shireen, I'm going toexpect you got to check with
your parents and find out whatyour?
word was so we can have a parttwo of this podcast and we'll
continue on that.
So all right, listeners.
For my part, I leave you withfriends from wild places.
It's been amazing journey thismorning.
And where can we find you?
Where can we find you, dr Phil?
(26:46):
If we want to find moreinformation, our listeners want
to get in touch with you.
Maybe they have more questions,maybe they would like you to be
a guest speaker at theirorganization for you know, maybe
some you know holisticexercises, even team building
workshops.
I do appreciate you coming intoMiami Dade College our
restorative art class and youdid a phenomenal workshop there.
(27:09):
Our students are still talkingabout it, so I definitely want
to have you back in ourclassroom.
But where can people find youNot only students when can
people find you?
Phil Bulone (27:18):
Yeah, I shared with Shireen my LinkedIn profile and
my email and my personal phonenumber, so yeah, Okay, so
Shireen will get that in theshow notes.
Tanya Scotece (27:28):
And how about you , Shireen?
Where can our listeners findyou?
Maybe they want to be a futureguest on the podcast.
Maybe they have bookkeepingneeds.
Where can our listeners findyou?
Shireen Botha (27:37):
Well, let's start with you, Tanya, and then we'll
end with me How's that?
Tanya Scotece (27:41):
Okay, okay.
So for folks finding me, manyof the listeners know I am a
licensed funeral director inBalmer in the state of Florida.
I oversee the mortuary programat Miami Dade College, so
anybody that's interested inpursuing a career in funeral
directing definitely can reachout to me.
I also work in the senior space, matching people with
(28:03):
communities who can no longerlive alone, perhaps due to
cognitive or physical challenges, and I also serve as an expert
witness in the funeral home andcemetery cases.
So for folks finding me, I dolive on LinkedIn.
You can find me at TanyaScotisi LinkedIn profile is
right there for all three areasof need or if you just have
(28:26):
something that you would likemore information on that I've
talked about this morning.
Back to you, shireen.
Shireen Botha (28:31):
Sounds wonderful.
Thank you so much, tanya, fordoing that.
So, yes, you'll find me onLinkedIn as well with Tanya.
Shireen Botha, as well asShireen's Bookkeeping Services,
is the business that I run.
You can also find Friends fromWild Places on YouTube, but the
website is friendsfromwildplaces.
buzzsprout.
com.
(28:52):
That's friendsfromwildplaces.
buzzsprout.
com.
If you would like to go and getsome more content on mental
health, we did have our visitor,Damien O'Brien, on not so long
ago for the Switzerland mentalhealth development program.
So if you want to go in andlisten to some more ways to help
(29:16):
each other, be there for eachother, help yourself, please go
and take a listen.
Please subscribe.
It's only $5 a month.
We'd really appreciate yourevery support.
It really means so much tomyself and tanya.
Um, and, with that being said,thank you so much for listening
and we'll see you next time.
Guys, and remember you got thisand stay wild.
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Bye, guys, bye, bye you've been listening to friends
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