What REALLY is the impact of leadership in growing an experimentation? And is "stable leadership" something which may actually be messing up your ability to grow your program?
This was something I wanted to enlist the thoughts from the "Taco King" himself, Lukas Vermeer. We went into some great thoughts and conversations around building trust, being perceived as a credible person to help you grow your experimentation program, and other important things related to leadership and experimentation.
We got into:
- How Lukas REALLY built anti-fragile experimentation at Booking.com (and how some parts MAY have been influenced by the ... Dutch Mafia?!)
- The impacts of working from home to building and scaling experimentation (spoiler: it DOES make shit harder)
- "Trust" and "Credibility" are two VERY important things in growing experimentation - how you actually GET those, well Lukas and Shiva have thoughts
Timestamps:
00:00 Episode Start
3:02 The Leadership at Booking.com (and how it WAS stable)
8:57 Which Impacts Experimentation More? Stability or Trust?
14:54 The Impact of Working From Home to Growing an Experimentation Program
24:39 Making Experimentation Anti-Fragile (Along With A Fun Lukas Story About It)
40:20 What CAN CRO Do When Leadership is Unstable
47:29 How to be Credible Without Being Annoying
51:03 “PREACH” : Manuel De Costa
Go follow Lukas on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lukasvermeer/
And go follow Manuel on LinkedIn as well! https://www.linkedin.com/in/manueldacosta/
Also go follow Shiva on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shiva-manjunath/If you like this content, go nominate us for a community award at: https://experimentationcultureawards.com/
Subscribe to our newsletter for more memes, clips, and awesome content! https://fromatob.beehiiv.com/
If you have listener questions, submit them at https://tinyurl.com/askfromatob for a chance to be featured too!
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.