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July 28, 2025 39 mins

This episode: Breaking the Silence: Leo Marrs on Surviving Abuse, Reclaiming Identity, and Leading with Breath.

 

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Meeting Introduction and Initial Connection (0:10)

  • Host Drew Deraney thanks Guest Leo Marrs’ virtual assistant for introducing him and emphasizes the importance of meeting guests in person to build a connection.
  • Drew discusses the concept of life's teachings and how external circumstances can derail plans, introducing the idea of three types of people: those who ignore adversity, those who blame others, and those who take action.
  • He explains the concept of "Leo Marrs," a person who recognizes adversity and takes action to change their circumstances.
  • Leo shares his background, mentioning his age (42) and two significant turning points in his life at 27 and 30.

First Turning Point: Spiritual Experience and Depression (2:27)

  • Leo describes a profound spiritual experience at 27 while visiting his father in Alaska, where he lost his sense of self and had a shattering realization.
  • This experience led to a decade of inquiry and a period of depression as he struggled to reconcile his identity.
  • Drew acknowledges the difficulty of understanding how someone can control depression despite significant life changes.
  • Leo explains that the experience was a turning point but also led to a period of self-loathing and confusion.

Second Turning Point: Discovering Trauma and Meeting a Partner (5:25)

  • At 33, Leo discovered early childhood trauma that had influenced his life, leading to a realization that he had misinterpreted his world and self-worth.
  • He met a partner who initially treated him well but later revealed a sociopathic personality, using his vulnerabilities against him.
  • Leo describes the initial stages of the relationship, which felt like a level-up, but eventually led to a series of assaults and manipulation.
  • The partner's manipulative behavior included calling the police on Leo, leading to a traumatic experience and a police report.

The Relationship's Deterioration and Its Impact (27:30)

  • Leo shares how the relationship deteriorated, with the partner becoming increasingly controlling and violent.
  • He describes the partner's attempts to manipulate and defame him after he left the relationship, leading to significant personal and professional losses.
  • Leo emphasizes the importance of recognizing when someone shows their true nature and the dangers of giving second chances to the wrong people.
  • The partner's defamation efforts included imp...

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  • (00:00:00) - Leo Mars
  • (00:01:18) - How I Became The Man I Am Today
  • (00:07:28) - How I Learned To Love myself in the Shower
  • (00:11:41) - Narcissist Talking About His Own Worth
  • (00:14:24) - What Made The Right Person For Me
  • (00:16:53) - The Woman Who Was Arrested For Assault
  • (00:21:05) - She Called The Cops On Me
  • (00:24:46) - How To Get Out Of An Abuse Relationship
  • (00:29:14) - In the Elevator With an Abusive Partner
  • (00:30:50) - Leo Mars on Becoming a More Powerful Creator With His Breat
  • (00:35:17) - Leo's Advice To His Younger Self
  • (00:38:19) - Living the Life You Want to Live
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