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December 8, 2025 36 mins

This episode: The Rejection That Broke Him—And the Men’s Circle That Rebuilt His Life.

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Introduction and Purpose of the Podcast (0:00)

  • Host Drew Deraney initiates the recording and thanks Jason Lange for joining the podcast.
  • Drew credits Rob Wentz for introducing Jason Lange.
  • He discusses the concept of life as a straight path and how external circumstances can derail it.
  • Drew introduces the three types of men: those who don't notice adversity, those who see it as a barrier, and those who see it as an opportunity.

Jason Lange's Transformative Moment (23:21)

  • Jason Lange shares his experience of struggling with intimacy and connection with women in his mid-20s.
  • He describes a pivotal moment during a date where he was rejected, leading to a collapse in his confidence.
  • Jason explains how he joined men's groups and underwent healing work, including talk therapy and a transformative experience in a men's group.
  • He emphasizes the importance of taking responsibility for one's pain and the impact of this realization on his life.

The Role of Men's Groups in Personal Growth (23:40)

  • Jason discusses the significance of men's groups in providing a safe space for vulnerability and healing.
  • He highlights the importance of explicit agreements in men's groups to create a trusting environment.
  • Jason shares how his participation in men's groups helped him navigate significant life challenges, including career changes and personal relationships.
  • He explains how his experience in men's groups led him to start Evolutionary Man to help other men through similar transformations.

Evolutionary Man and Its Impact (23:53)

  • Jason describes the evolution of Evolutionary Man over the past decade, starting from his personal well-being to supporting other men.
  • He explains how Evolutionary Man offers mentorship, men's groups, and life retreats to help men connect and support each other.
  • Jason shares his mission to ensure every man has access to deep connection and support through Evolutionary Man.
  • He discusses the importance of real, in-person connections over virtual ones for men's mental health and well-being.

Jason's Personal and Professional Journey (24:08)

  • Jason reflects on the personal growth he experienced through Evolutionary Man and how it influenced his professional life.
  • He shares his experience of meeting his wife and the positive impact of his personal growth on his relationships.
  • Jason discusses the challenges of raising a child with hearing impairment and how his men's groups provided support during this time.
  • He emphasizes the importance of community and connection in overcoming personal and professional challenges.

The Importance of Vulnerability and Connection (24:25)

  • Jason highlights the significance of vulnerability and connection in men's groups, particularly in creating a supportive environment.
  • He explains how men's groups help men share their burdens and feel less isolated.
  • Jason discusses the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on men's mental health and the importance of maintaining connections during times of i...

Chapters

  • (00:00:00) - Meet Jason Lang
  • (00:01:10) - There's Only One Kind of Man
  • (00:02:56) - What Changed The Way You See Women
  • (00:10:39) - Vulnerability in Men's Groups
  • (00:12:20) - The Real Story of Men's Work
  • (00:16:24) - How Did You Met Your Wife?
  • (00:18:51) - How I Learned to Love My Daughter's Hearing Loss
  • (00:24:28) - The Need for Real Men's Groups
  • (00:28:22) - What Happens at a Men's Retreat?
  • (00:32:25) - In the Elevator With Jason Lang
  • (00:33:21) - Jason Wentz on Starting a Business
  • (00:35:16) - Living the Life You Want to Live
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