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December 26, 2024 • 39 mins

Christi sits down with Phil Goetzmann, Owner of Goetzmann Custom Homes, and Jane Quimby, Project Manager for Redlands 360, for this month's Full Circle Podcast. Hear about this new Grand Junction, Colorado development with its focus on 360 degree views, commitment to recreation and access, integrating into the community, and offering a diversity of housing options as the different phases of the neighborhood unfold.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):


Speaker 2 (00:06):
The Full Circle podcast, compelling interviews
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that make the Western slope theplace we all love. You'll
learn, you'll laugh, you'lllove with the full circle. Hi
everybody, and welcome back tothe Full Circle Podcast. I'm

(00:27):
your host, Christy Reese, andI'm really excited today to
have our guests and talk aboutone of the most , uh,
incredible projects in GrandJunction , um, residential
living, which is Redlands 360.
So we're here with the projectmanager, Jane Quimbee, and also
one of the custom homebuilders, Phil Getman. So
welcome.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Thanks for having us. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Um, so Jane, let's start with a little overview of
Redlands 360 and how thisproject has come about because
it's , uh, a lot of people knowabout it, but they don't know
the scope of it and how it gotgot to be where it is right
now. Sure.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
So, Redlands 360, it's a , what we call a master
plan community. Uh, it's alittle bit different than
typically what you see , uh, around grand junction. Mm-hmm
. Uh, it's a longterm project, probably a 25 to
30 year build out time. Itstarted , uh, with the
acquisition or partnership witha landowner who has owned the

(01:24):
land that's associated withRedlands 360 for many years.
Mm-hmm . And heessentially wanted to finally
develop the land that he's heldall this time. The original
intent of the land was for itto be a executive links golf
course Right . To kind of acompanion with Redlands Mesa.
And then as time evolved, andgolf courses probably were not

(01:44):
viewed as that much, you know,not as desirable and , um, also
not profitable mm-hmm . Uh , as a
residential real estate , uh,market. And so we partnered
with the landowner , um, as thedeveloper and as, as we like to
say, he had the canvas and weget to paint it. Mm-hmm
.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
And you are a member of La Plata Communities. What's
the name of your organization?
Fully La Pla

Speaker 3 (02:08):
La Plata Communities.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
La Plata Communities. I thought so. Um,
out of Colorado Springs. Butyou , um, Doug is your brother,
and, and he has a history hereas you do in Grand Junction, so
some people have said, well,this is a out of town person
coming in to develop the Slam ,but not really .

Speaker 3 (02:25):
No. Uh, we've obviously, we grew up here. Uh,
Doug's had a long history ofproperty development, primarily
in El Paso County in ColoradoSprings area. Mm-hmm
. And we actuallylooked at this property like
buying it outright , um, goingback more than 10 years ago and
partnering with the landowner ,um, that we're partnering with,
with now. But it's always beena really cool piece of

(02:46):
property. And because of ourties to the Valley , uh, it was
kind of, I guess we look at itas someone was gonna build on
it at some point in time, andwe wanted to make sure that it
was built right. Mm-hmm. We wanted it to
be something that the communitywould embrace , uh, as a
positive project and somethingthat long term was gonna be a

(03:07):
desirable place for people tolive. And so, even though, I
mean, Doug's obviously livingin Carter Springs
predominantly, but he's overhere and I'm local, and that's
kinda how I got wrapped intothe project. He was coming over
here to look at things and talkthrough things, and people were
always coming up to me saying,your brother needs to know
this, your brother needs toknow that . And pretty

(03:28):
soon it was like, well, maybeyou should just hire me. Mm-hmm
. Um, and that's, that's how Iended up. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Well, I think you've done a great job with the PR
around this project and thecommunication around this
project, because obviouslyanybody that's familiar with
the location knows that it'sbeen a recreation , uh, area
for a lot of the residents,even though it's always been
private land, the landowner hasallowed people to recreate on
it graciously. Um, but one ofthe wonderful things about the

(03:56):
project you have planned isthat it keeps a lot of the open
space and the trails intact.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah. And I think that comes from recognition
that, number one, we wanna be agood neighbor. Mm-hmm
. Uh , we didn'twant to come in here . And
there were plans over the yearsfor that piece of property that
people would really not havebeen very happy with. Mm-hmm
. And our part ofit's our community vision , uh,
in terms of the projects we'vedone in Carter Springs, but the
idea was to embrace therecreational aspects of the

(04:23):
property and utilize that askind of a promotional sales
thing. Those lots sellthemselves because of the
recreational amenities that youhave. So rather than get rid of
those and just create a massivehousing complex, people wanna
live there because of therecreational values that we
share. Mm-hmm .
Uh , as part of the vision forthe community. Mm-hmm

Speaker 2 (04:43):
. It's 660 acres in total, correct?

Speaker 3 (04:46):
It's actually 620 acres.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Six 20, okay. Yeah.
And how much of that will beopen space? Roughly

Speaker 3 (04:52):
30% is designated open space, but that's even a
little bit misleading becauseobviously once we plan out the
various filings, there's gonnabe additional open space that
will be create within,

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Within

Speaker 3 (05:03):
A filing Exactly.
Within a filing. But just interms of the broad perspective
or outlined development plansets out the number of acres
that are set aside currently.
Uh , and it's roughly 30% ofthe overall property.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Mm-hmm . Phil, I wanna ,
um, turn to you now and talk alittle bit about , um, building
in this area. So you have beenbuilding since you were a young
man of 21, I read right ? Itwas yesterday. Yesterday, just
a few years ago. Uh, butprimarily in the , uh, Colorado
Springs area. But you , uh,came over to look at this

(05:35):
project and really fell in lovewith this area and, and wanted
to build some custom homeshere. And , um, tell us about
your experience in , uh, theRedlands 360 project so far.
Well , and come closer to themic for me.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
We, we ended up here because Doug , um, Jane's
brother called me one day andhe said, I understand your boys
go to CMU. And I said, that'sright. And he said, well, Phil,
I think you need some lots overhere, . And my reply
was, how many lots do you thinkI need Doug

Speaker 2 (06:09):
?

Speaker 4 (06:10):
So , um, we have built in La Platas communities
for some years, and we , welove their communities. We love
La Plata . They do a , anamazing job. They are the
premier developer in ColoradoSprings, and we love their
subdivisions , uh, becausemostly because they have value

(06:34):
mm-hmm . Uh ,when things get tough, other
subdivisions didn't do so well.
And, and La Plata subdivisionsbecause of what they are , uh,
did very well mm-hmm. And so we came
over here and we startedbuilding in Canyon Rim and ,
uh, and then moved up to EasterHill mm-hmm

Speaker 2 (06:55):
. And , um, one of the things I know
about La Plata communities, myexperience with them so far is
one of the reasons they're ,uh, subdivisions do so well is
because they're very meticulousabout how they plan and the
CCNRs and the architecturalcontrols.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
That's right. Mm-hmm . So, and , and
correct me if I'm wrong, but Ithink every lot connects to
open space and, and they dothat in Colorado Springs as
well, which is a really superunique , uh, development trait.
Mm-hmm . Of LaPlata .

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Very unique. Yes.
And right now in Easter Hill,that's 51 lots total. There's
only two builders there, youand another builder. But we're,
you're building beautifulcustom homes, and we had one in
the parade of homes, and I hopea bunch of our viewers and
listeners got to go see it, butif not, happy to show it to you
anytime . Um, building somegorgeous homes up there, and ,

(07:52):
uh, yeah , a lot of them are onthat bluff, which , um, is open
space behind with unobstructedviews. It's just spectacular.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
It's, it's amazing.
The views are just incredibleup there. Everybody has a view.
Mm-hmm .

Speaker 2 (08:06):
Absolutely. So , um, after Easter Hill, Jane , um,
um, what's the next filing thatyou all are working on?

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, actually, right , uh, about a week and a
half ago, we turned in our nextapplication to the city. Uh,
the next phase we call filingtwo is going to be known as
the, at Redlands 360. Uh, it is125 lot multi-family
development. It's essentiallygonna be attached town homes .
Mm-hmm . At thecorner of South Camp Road and

(08:36):
current South Broadway orRedlands Parkway, depending on
your perspective. Mm-hmm. Uh , and that's
going to be , uh, kind of builtin probably two primary phases,
although we're not phasing itper se, but we'll start on the
west side of that parcel. Uh,and around 50 some units there
and 70 some units on the otherside. When I say the other
side, it's bisected bywetlands. Mm-hmm .

(08:58):
And so rather than trying tofigure out like, Hey, how can
we like, get rid of thisproblematic wetlands? We, in
our design of that communityhave embraced the wetlands ,
uh, made some really cooltrails. There's actually gonna
be a pedestrian bridge thatwill cross the wetlands instead
of a road Nice. Uh , to promotethe walkability and more
community aspect. And thenwe'll have some park land and

(09:19):
open space mm-hmm . Uh , within that community.
But that's the next phase. Andwe're hoping that depending on
the city process, which can bechallenging, we're hoping that
we'll start moving forward withsome preliminary construction
over there, just grading andstarting to get the roads in,
in late spring. Mm-hmm . With , uh,
buildings starting hopefullythis summer,

Speaker 2 (09:36):
And not only some multifamily, but some
commercial aspects to thatcorner as well. Correct.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yes. There are a couple of, I think it's five
acres roughly, of commercial.
We'll have commercial pads ,uh, and that'll kind of evolve
over time. We don't have aspecific plan. We're not gonna
go ahead and develop out thosepods or those, those pads right
now. Um, but that is part ofthe future of that parcel. And
the idea there is to make thatmore of a community centric

(10:01):
mm-hmm .
Commercial side where maybe acoffee shop, we'd love to have
a rooftop bar. Yes. Um , maybea , uh, you know, small type of
, uh, restaurant , uh, not abig, you know, draw, but
something that if you live inthat community, you could walk
over and grab a cup of coffeeand a pastry or a sandwich. Um,
we're also talking aboutpotentially maybe a childcare

(10:21):
facility. Uh, that's a realneed, not just in the Redlands,
but certainly in Mesa County,but particularly in the
Redlands. There's just nothinglike that out there. And
incorporate that type ofcommercial and embrace the
recreational aspects, becauseeventually that will be
connected to the 600 acreparcel up top with, with trail
heads and bike lanes. And so

Speaker 2 (10:40):
That will be one of the primary access points up
into the, the bigger part ofthe development? Correct. Yes.
Okay. I think a lot of peoplehave trouble visualizing where
all the connection points aregonna be. So one is gonna come
through the current Canyon Rimarea where we have lots for
sale and, and doing some customhomes there. Um, what , what a
lot of people call the BenKnight Hill , uh,

(11:03):
because we all ride our bikesup there. Right . Um, so
they'll, that'll be access,that'll go then all the way
down to 23 road, correct.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Correct. So 23 road, and that's what we call filing
three. Uh , we're actuallysubmitting that next Monday.
Uh, that is , uh, at its corejust a road filing. It's not
specifically associated withlots that we've developed or
identified so far other thangeographically. Uh , but we
will be building an entry road, um, that will basically be a

(11:30):
, at an extension to the southof 23 Road, and a realignment
of the existing roads overthere to bring us into that ,
um, area of the parcel. Andthen to your point, the corner
parcel, the corner Redlands360, we'll have a road that
goes through it, and then itactually snakes up the hill and
we've got preliminary design.
Um, but that will be a primaryentry as well. Okay.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Um, and as far as phasing goes , um, I know a lot
of people think, oh, there'sjust gonna be giant homes up
there. It's, you know,obviously it's a very desirable
location, and the Redlandstends to be a little bit higher
value and a lot of it's homesand construction, but you're
gonna have all types of , um,properties, sizes of lots, and

(12:17):
I'm assuming there's gonna besome bigger lots eventually
that are bigger than what wehave in Easter Hill. But talk
about the phasing and what youenvision for the different
neighborhoods.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
So over the course of time, this is, like I said,
a 25 year plus project. We willhave some custom homes, but I
think in the outlinedevelopment plan, you know,
we're talking about a minimum.
I think , uh, the proof plan bythe city is between 1300 and
1600 units. Mm-hmm . Uh , the
overall plan, the true customhomes, like maybe something

(12:48):
you'd see at Redlands Mesa is avery small percentage. I think
it's somewhere around 75 customhomes. Mm-hmm .
And so the focus will really beon a diversification, I'd like
to say, diversification ofpeople, product and price. The
idea is that everyone can'tafford, and now even a million
dollar let you know that that'sbecome more of a, a floor , uh,

(13:09):
it's , it's crazy mm-hmm . But the idea is
that you shouldn't have to havea million dollar home to have a
million dollar view. Mm-hmm. So our goal is
to be able to incorporate anumber of different types of
products, whether that be townhomes , we may have some
apartments, we may have some ,uh, patio homes, like more of a
type of place where you don'thave, it's like an over 55, you

(13:31):
know, low maintenance , uh,type thing. Uh, the idea is
just to have a number ofdiverse products mm-hmm
. That people atdifferent price points and
stages of their lives , uh,would like to be mm-hmm
. And still takeadvantage of all the
recreational amenities we havein the community.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yes. And Phil , um, speaking of different price
points, you're offering , uh,quite a, a wide range of price
points in the Easter Hill area,starting in the low sevens for
a beautiful unobstructed view,lot with a gorgeous home there.
Talk about the different homesthat you're building.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Well, and , and going back to what Jane said,
there's, we have what thedeveloper calls segmentation.
So different builders getdifferent lot sizes. So we, we
try and offer different pricepoints , uh, so that we cover,
you know, we cover a widevariety of , uh, affordability

(14:26):
mm-hmm . So westarted about seven 50 and ,
and go north from there. Um,the most expensive home we've
sold to date was about amillion mm-hmm .
Um,

Speaker 2 (14:37):
And , and that home has a lot of square footage.
Ranch with a walkout basement.
Yes . Mm-hmm .
With about 3,800 square feet.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Right. It seems unusual that we do walkout
basements here. Mm-hmm . Where , uh,
back in the springs , uh, youknow, every chance we got, we
got , we did a walkoutbasement. Mm-hmm
. And the walkouts are sellingreally well here. Mm-hmm
. Yeah. It's anice feature. Mm-hmm

Speaker 2 (14:59):
. Um, that , uh, Easter Hill area,
the lots tend to be , uh, Idon't wanna say smaller
compared to what people areused to. They're more like the
Redlands Mesa. So they're notone acre lots by any means, but
the, the idea is to kind ofcluster the homes so that the

(15:19):
open space is there. And isthat the same , um, kind of
development you have inColorado Springs? Typically
with La Plata ? It

Speaker 4 (15:28):
Is. Mm-hmm . Uh , going back
to segmentation, you have 50foot lots, 60 foot lots, and in
, and in Colorado Springs, wehave 70 foot lots, and I think
at some point we'll probablyhave 70 foot lots here. We will
. And it's, it's all based on ,uh, price point. Mm-hmm
. Yep . So theflatter lots, we do crawl
spaces mm-hmm .

(15:48):
And , uh, in the steeper lotswe do walkouts mm-hmm

Speaker 2 (15:51):
. And , um, the views , uh, on the
backside on that , um, I don'twanna call it a cliff, but a
bluff maybe. Um, reallygorgeous. But then you get the
book Cliff views up there too,which Oh yeah. Are stunning.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
We , uh, you know, our forte seems to be outdoor
living mm-hmm .
And so, and we do that on thefront of the house and the back
of the house. And , uh, it'll,it's, it's so awesome that ,
uh, you know, the neighbors canwalk the street and you can sit
out on your front porch andoffer 'em a cup of coffee in

(16:25):
the morning. Right.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
And then just down the street, there's a trailhead
and that will remain intact.
Correct. At least a smallparking area there, or we not
know yet.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Actually, that trailhead will evolve into a
complete park , uh, paved , uh,in the future complete park
node. Mm-hmm . Atrue trailhead right now. The
parking lot that's there wasdone as an accommodation for
the current users. Mm-hmm . Uh, and, and
those aren't necessarilypeople, probably not people
that live in our community, butthey were people that have
traditionally been using thatland. Mm-hmm . Uh

(16:56):
, and eventually they're willactually be a park as well as a
trailhead at That's wonderfullocation.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
That's wonderful .
That makes a big difference forthe buyers in that
neighborhood, don't you think,Phil? Oh,

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Absolutely. Mm-hmm . Um, you know,
grand Junction seems to be allabout outdoor living.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
It does. And when I'm up there at the model home,
I can't tell you the number ofpeople that I have walking the
door that say, you know, wemoved here from Denver four
years ago and we couldn't behappier. We can't believe the
access that we have torecreation, and we're telling
all of our friends they need tocome this way too. And I think
it , this is the , um, the kindof community a lot of people

(17:30):
wanna live in.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
It's true. Uh, you know, a fair amount of our
buyers come from their frontrange, and , uh, because it's,
you know, again, the recreationand it's, it's a slower pace.
Mm-hmm

Speaker 2 (17:45):
. It's Jane, can you talk a little bit
about the other amenities thatRedlands 360 community is
planning down the road?

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Well, I think , uh, and we have a , a master plan
park and open space plan mm-hmm . Uh , which is
publicly available , uh, andaccessible. Uh, and that
includes 11 different parks ofvarying sizes. Uh, I think we
have seven separate trail heads, uh, and we'll have other open
space that's not developed, butjust trails. And I don't , I

(18:14):
don't even know the totalnumber of miles of trails , um,
that we have or that we willeventually have. That's a kind
of an ongoing process. Uh, soobviously the trails themselves
are probably the biggestamenity. And then at some point
in time in the future, weprobably will have some type of
a community amenity. And one ofthe things that we're really
good at is listening to ourresidents. Like, what do you

(18:36):
want? Uh, we know fromexperience certain things that
sell well and that aredesirable for people, but this
is a different type ofcommunity. I mean, obviously,
probably one of the top thingswe've heard from people is a
pool, a community pool. Mm-hmm . Uh, and some
type of maybe meeting space ,uh, and that the , uh,
construction and developmentand design of that amenity ,

(18:59):
uh, will be over time mm-hmm . Uh, as we
develop the property, thevarious phases and kind of hear
from our residents, it's reallyimportant to us. The one thing
I think we've consistentlyheard as a community pool, in
addition, we have fourplateaus. We call the four
brothers, and we've committed.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah . So if you're up at the Easter Hill area, you
can see them very clearly.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
And we've committed to not doing construction of
houses. Uh , they would makebeautiful unsurpassed lots
Right . To put houses up there.
Yes. Um , but we've made acommitment in terms of our
planning and vision that we'llhave amenities to kind of
connect those. And those may bethings like a hiking trail or
developed hiking trail. Uh, itmay be some type of a , you

(19:40):
know, covered gazebo , uh, sometype of observatory where you
could look through , uh, some,you know, a telescope or
whatever. So there will be someinteractive things to do.
Mm-hmm . Uh,again, just embracing the
outdoor lifestyle andrecreational type things. What
we don't wanna do is shave offthe top of a hillside and put

(20:01):
20 houses up there. And sothat's part of, again, part of
the experience that when yousay amenities, the true thing
for us is going to be very welldesigned. Yes . And interactive
type recreational things.
Mm-hmm .

Speaker 2 (20:15):
I think that's something that we talk about a
lot up at the model home atEaster Hill, is when you look
out over that landscape sayingmm-hmm . There's
not gonna be a huge houseperched on the top of those
hills. Right . So that it feelslike it's imposing on everybody
else.

Speaker 4 (20:28):
One thing La Plata does really well is what they
call pocket parks. So, youknow, maybe it's, maybe it's as
simple as , uh, a bench whereyou can sit down and , and have
a , a bottle of water. Mm-hmm . Uh , they do
that really well,

Speaker 2 (20:42):
And maybe some art installations. Mm-hmm
. That's what Isaw in your, some of your
projects over in ColoradoSprings. Well,

Speaker 3 (20:47):
And we have a lot, we've been partnering with a
local artist . Many people hereare familiar with Jeff Bates.
Mm-hmm . Uh, Jeffdid some landscape sculptures
for us. Uh, he started inCanyon Rim, and those we've
carried over to Easter Hill.
We're talking to him aboutdoing some design for our
roundabout. Uh, we wannaembrace sculpture and public

(21:07):
art as part of our , uh, youknow, vision , uh, for this
community. Uh, and to Phil'spoint about the, you know, the
pocket parks, those are, youknow, available for our
residents mm-hmm . But they're also public
accessible, you know, for thegreater community.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
And, and I wanna thank you for the art
installations. And I thinkanybody that has , uh, been up
there will see that that's justa , a symbol of the caring and
design that you put into yourprojects. There aren't any
other monuments or entries likethe ones that, that I'm aware
of. I think they're justbeautiful. Love you .

Speaker 3 (21:41):
Thank you . Thank you.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
The sculpture and the modern design of it, it's
really nice. So obviously thisis , um, there's some public
land there. I think some peoplehave been concerned that this
will be a gated community. Um,we talked about maybe a pool
and a community center thatwould be reserved for community
members, but the trails willremain open to the public. Is

(22:02):
that correct?

Speaker 3 (22:03):
That's correct. And one of the things, one of our
parks will be, and we have anagreement with the city , um,
will be like a city type parkwhere we may have, and we've
got preliminary design. Thereprobably will be pickleball
courts, there will be anamphitheater, there will be
some type of a shade structure,picnic structure, field space,

(22:23):
you know, that sort of thing ona bigger scale of what you
might expect of a city typepark. Mm-hmm .
Uh, as well as smaller parksthat might just have a climbing
wall or some type of apparatuslike you see over at Los
Colonus , or do Rios, you know,a little smaller concentrated
area. And all of those , uh,facilities will be accessible

(22:45):
for the public. Mm-hmm . Uh , so the
pool, and, and that'll be todetermine at a later point, but
let's say we have a pool andmaybe we have a fitness center,
and we might have some privatepickleball courts or whatever
it ends up that we do, but the,the city park type that I was
describing in the park pocketparks that Phil's describing ,
uh, you know, you're out fordog will have dog parks, so you

(23:05):
bring your dog, you know,that's not restricted to just
residents . Mm-hmm . That's
something that the public cancome, they can park at a trail
head , they can jump on theirbike, they can just take off
walking and take advantage ofany of those amenities.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
One of the things that occurs to me as a, a real
estate agent is, you know, whenI see a new project opening, I
know that if you get in theground floor, you're gonna have
a very valuable piece ofproperty down the road. And we
think about what people canpurchase now in the Easter Hill
area and coming up on thecorner. And then the , the

(23:39):
incredible value that they'regonna get with the amenities
that are gonna go into thefuture is, it's just mind
blowing . Like, get in nowpeople. Right. , this
is a good time. Well , I

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Think Christie , we've seen with the Easter
Hill, like people come and they, and there , it's almost like
the fear of missing out. Mm-hmm . And they might
want a bigger lot, they mightbe wanting more of a semi
customer. I'd like a 70 footlot, but you know what, there's
something available now on a 50foot lot or 60 foot lot, and
it's made so that you can likegraduate and go someplace else.
Or maybe you then decide, I'vebeen on a 60 or 70 foot lot, I

(24:11):
really wanna go maybe down to atownhouse. Mm-hmm
. So within thecommunity, that's the whole
idea. You could actually ageout in place mm-hmm
. Over time,depending on the type of
product that you wanna live in.
Mm-hmm

Speaker 2 (24:22):
. And , uh, along with the segmented ,
uh, structure that you talkedabout with a variety of prices
and styles, you know, we havehouses that are great for
families with kids. We havehouses that are great for
retirees , uh, single level .
You know, I, I think a lot ofpeople that live in the
Redlands , um, uh, want thatone level lifestyle. Um, but we

(24:47):
have a variety of homes for allkinds of buyers.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
The , the models that we have, we like to think,
cover all those bases. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm

Speaker 2 (24:55):
. Phil in Colorado Springs, you all
are pretty familiar with metrodistricts, is that correct?
That's true. And , um, not a, aproblem or a question is
something that you've beendeveloping and building with ,
uh, for a number of years.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
I would suggest to you that all the new , uh,
communities that are beingdeveloped at this point have a
metro district. Mm-hmm

Speaker 2 (25:17):
. It's a fairly new concept for Grand
Junction. We've got a couple ofthem here, but Redlands 360 is
a , in , in total is a metrodistrict, correct. Jane? Yes.
Mm-hmm . Could youexplain to our listeners a
little bit about what that is?

Speaker 3 (25:30):
I guess the easiest way to describe it, it's kind
of a funding mechanism. Uh, thetypes of things that we're
doing. Uh, if you took thisproperty and relied upon the
city or the county to put inparks, to put in trail heads to
maintain trails, it would neverhappen. Mm-hmm .
Uh, they could have the promiseof, oh, someday there's gonna
be a park. And we've seenlocally match it park as an

(25:51):
example, where it's sat fordecades until the city had the
ability to do that. And so ametro district provides a
funding mechanism for us , uh,which is based on mill Levy,
and there's a calculatedprocess that you go through,
which also allows us toutilize, it's part of your
property tax bill. Mm-hmm . Uh , mills are

(26:12):
set by the district, andthere's some very, very strict
rules about how metro districtscan function. And we've
utilized metro districts in allour communities in Colorado
Springs very successfully. It'sjust relatively a new concept
here. Mm-hmm .
And what that also allows us todo, yes, you're going to be
paying for these greatamenities that we have, but it
also changes a little bit thedynamic of the, what people

(26:34):
here are familiar with the HOAfees. Right. Uh , so right now,
like in our communities, andPhil actually has a place in
Canyon Rim. He pays zero HOAfees, however, as part of his
property , annual property taxbill, he is paying into the
Metro district. And then weutilize those funds for
maintenance of the landscape.
The city has no responsibilityas far as maintaining our

(26:57):
trails, keeping our parks up,taking care of anything. We use
the Metro District as a fundingsource to create and maintain a
community that is at a levelthat you just wouldn't get with
just normal city or countyservices. Mm-hmm

Speaker 2 (27:09):
. So when people are looking at
their , uh, assessor record andtheir tax bill, there's gonna
be an extra line item on therefor the Metro District in
addition to the other itemsthat they are charged for in
their taxes. Sure.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
So, like, typically on a property tax bill, now you
might have something if you'rein a water district, if you're
in a sanitation district, theschool district mm-hmm
. The variousmill levies that are set out.
So the people that residewithin our community would have
a separate , uh, line item forme , rather 360 Metro District
mm-hmm

Speaker 2 (27:40):
. And, and that is , uh, deductible on
your taxes as well. I mean,that's, it's part of your tax
bill, so there's an advantagein that regard. Correct.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
So Jane has to set aside parks is part of the
development. The , the citymandates that. So Jane takes
that park space and enhances itnow because she has the, the
funds to do that. Whereas ifyou didn't have the Metro
District, it would sit thereand grow weeds. Mm-hmm

(28:12):
. So our, ourcustomers have the benefit of
enjoying , uh, this beautifulspace now, and it gives the
community value.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Mm-hmm . Definitely.
Well, I, I hope that , um,people that have questions
about the Master district willcall us, call you, get in
touch, because I think somepeople have been nervous about
it, but it's really a , abrilliant solution and it
provides for so many greatthings in the community.
Totally. Is, yeah. Um, not tosay that people will never have

(28:46):
HOA dues there, is thatcorrect? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
As an example, for instance, the Townhome project
that we're gonna do , uh, theremay be some features for those
town homes that wouldn't makesense in a single family
residential development, say atEaster Hill. And that might be
something like community orcollective trash , uh, or snow.
Not that we get snow, but snowplowing sometimes . Um,

(29:10):
landscape maintenance, youknow, there, there might be
some different things. A futureapartment building, it may make
sense in addition to thispotential community pool, but
maybe we decide that as part ofthe apartment complex, they
have their own pool. So it's alittle different than, oh ,
okay, well I've got thecommunity pool. But if you live
in those apartments, you've gotyour own pool dedicated to just

(29:32):
your residents . So there couldbe in the future HOA fees that
would be associated withspecial restricted community
amenities that would not beotherwise available. Mm-hmm

Speaker 2 (29:41):
.
Okay. And , um, we talked alittle bit about the phasing
and going to the corner next,and then , uh, 23 Road
Roundabout. Is that right? OnBroadway? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
There will be a 23 road roundabout at Highway
three 40 . Mm-hmm . Uh , and 23 Road and filing
three that we just are gonnasubmit on Monday is actually an
internal roundabout, which isthe extension of 23 Road to the
South. Mm-hmm .
Uh , and then the next phase ofactual units will be just south
of the existing Easter Hill.

(30:18):
Uh, we're calling that filingfour . Uh, and that will be
somewhere in the neighborhoodof 45 to 50. Again, single
family , uh, typicalresidential lots, that'll be
varying sizes. Maybe 50, 60. Idon't know if we're gonna hit
to the seventies yet, Phil. Um,but similar to Easter Hill, you
know, custom , uh, in terms ofthe lot sizes mm-hmm

(30:38):
. Um , same kindof price point. And then we
will look at next down the roadmight be some more higher
density that the pa we , I heara lot patio homes, people want
low maintenance, single level ,single level ranch patio homes,
that

Speaker 2 (30:54):
There's a real demand for that for sure. Yeah
. Yeah .

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Mm-hmm . And so we're always trying to
let the market tell us what ,and our potential buyers, what
do you wanna see next? Andtrying to be nimble and figure
out, okay, here's what we needto do at this particular
location. And it's just gonnaevolve over time and terms of
what the market desires andwhat people are buying. Mm-hmm
.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I know I've been to some of your community meetings
and you all have been really ,uh, good about holding meetings
and being transparent, allowingpeople to come ask questions
and showing them what's goingon. Do anything coming up in
that regard? I know we just,you just had one about 23 road.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Uh, yeah, we just had one about 23, and I
actually just two na two nightsago had a meeting with
neighbors, a subset of thepeople from the 23 road meeting
, uh, to just share someinformation. The city
participated in that with us.
Uh, so we, under the currentapproved plan, we're not
required to do typically thesecommunity meetings. It's just a
thing we do mm-hmm . Uh , because we
want to be good neighbors andwe don't see any value. It

(31:52):
works to our disadvantage if webecome kind of this cloistered,
well, we're already approved,and so we're gonna do whatever
we wanna do, and we don't carewhat the neighbors say. We're
always constantly trying toreach out to the community and
take concerns to heart. Andthere's things that we don't
think about that are importantto people. And so I think we,
that's one of the hallmarks Ithink of our company, is that
we want to have that publicface and that interaction and

(32:15):
that, that buy-in from thecommunity, because those are
the people potentially that aregonna buy these houses mm-hmm
. And be all inand help promote our community.
Mm-hmm .

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Um , Phil, I, I'm sure when you came to see the
project initially , uh,probably brought a big smile to
your face is it's a beautifulpiece of property. It's , um,
surrounded. I mean, it , Icalled it the donut hole, you
know, was , um, uh, developmentall around. And I know that
there was a big push by , um, alot of people in our community

(32:45):
to try to get it to remain openspace, but just not feasible ,
uh, to have the city or theland trust come in and buy
something like that. Is thathappened in Colorado Springs as
well? Do you get people thatare saying this needs to remain
open? But

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Of course, everybody's got the mentality
of , uh, not in my backyardmm-hmm . And ,
uh, but the reality is, youknow, LA Plata is being a
wonderful steward of theproperty. I agree. Uh , as are
the builders up there. Mm-hmm . Um, done a
really great job with thedevelopment so far. Gotta come
up and see it. And , uh, it'sjust beautiful. Yeah. And the ,

(33:23):
the views are stunning. Mm-hmm .

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Um, Jane up at the top of the hill is the water
tower and the , uh, repeater,whatever the cell tower. How do
those fit into the developmentup at the top of the hill?

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Well, the water tower, actually, there's a
little piece of property upthere that is owned by Ute wa ,
the Ute Water District, andthat's one of the primary
feeders. Mm-hmm .
Uh , for people out on theRedlands, and then some of the
communications equipment. Um,thankfully for people that are
here, Verizon , um, I think thecity also has a tower up there,
and that's part of a , somelease agreements with the

(33:58):
current property owner. Andthose, it's a strategic
location, and so we just havekind of learned that we have to
embrace that. Mm-hmm . You know, we
can't get rid of the watertower. Yeah . We're probably
not gonna get, people wouldn'twant us to, like, what do you
mean I'm not gonna have myVerizon Tower , um, on the
Redlands anymore. Mm-hmm . Uh , and so
those are things that , uh, areon property that is not ours.

(34:19):
Some of it is ours, and we'lljust incorporate that as much
as we can. As an example, thatUte Water property up there,
there are numerous trails thattransect that property. Yes.
And we went to Ute Water andsaid, look, we would like to
partner with you because peopleare going to be riding their
bikes and hiking and walkingacross your property, and we

(34:40):
don't wanna claim a trailsystem that we don't own. And
they were wonderful to workwith , uh, and said, yeah,
we'll work with you guys andwe'll allow public access
across our private property aspart of your trail system. And
there's some things that weneed to work out in that
agreement with them. But again,that's just part of our ability
to work with stakeholders andpartners who embrace our vision

(35:01):
as well to serve the communityat large. Uh, and we, we kind
of joke about what can wechange the color of the , uh,
? Can we show films,you know , on the , uh, you
know, on the side of the , onthe side of the tower, the
tower , um, can , can wedecorate it with Christmas
lights, ? Um, so that'sjust one of the natural things
that's there that we have tokind of embrace. And what we

(35:22):
found in previous projects issome people, again , it go, oh
, I don't want that in mybackyard, or in my view shed.
And then there are other peoplethat just, it's like, it's just
always been there and it'sthere. And so they don't even
notice it. Right.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
And is there a connection to the golf course
community at Redlands Mesa?

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Uh, believe it or not , uh, we've had some
discussions both with the cityand we've talked to the
Redlands Mesa folks, and ourultimate goal would be to have
some type of a connection,whether that is some type of a
sidewalk paved path, golfcourse path. We've had some
preliminary discussions with,with the city to allow golf
cart , uh, vehicles in ourcommunity, because it makes

(36:01):
sense. Mm-hmm .
Right now, you can have golfcarts at Redlands Mesa and out
near book Cliffe Country Club,it takes the city ordinance. So
we've already started havingthose kinds of discussions.
They're , it just makes sense.
They're

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Regulated on the streets, but Correct . Not that
they don't want 'em on thesidewalks. Right, right .
Mm-hmm . Theywant 'em on the streets. Mm-hmm
. Yeah .

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Yeah . Yeah . So we'll look at, because we think
that's a natural partnershipmm-hmm . With
them, it'd be great for us tobe able to access, so you go
over and you go to therestaurant, you could go play
golf. Um, and our communitymembers, the residents that we
have, we think that would beappealing to them. And it's
just trying to figure out thelogistics of the best route and
how we make that work. Mm-hmm

Speaker 2 (36:36):
.
Well, I appreciate your timetoday. I think this is , um,
just an amazing project. And,and I know as we talked about,
even though so many peoplewould love for it to stay open,
space just wasn't apossibility. And so, if it's
gonna get developed, I'm sohappy that La Plata has , has
partnered , uh, with the , um,landowner to make this just the

(36:59):
best community possible withlots of open space, lots of ,
uh, strict guidelines onbuildings so that the homes
that are being built are topquality and fitting in with the
natural surroundings. Right.
How many different , um, uh,design elements are in the
homes that you're building now,Phil? There's a mid-century

(37:19):
modern, well ,

Speaker 4 (37:20):
Right. We have three, three different models
mm-hmm . Andwithin those three different
models, every model has aminimum of three different
elevations, whether that bemid-century, modern , uh,
modern gable, Prairie , um, oh, what's another one? We

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Also allow Desert,

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Modern desert.
Modern

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Modern desert.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
Yeah. So

Speaker 2 (37:41):
It's very cool. All of those design elements have
to be approved by the rightoverall developer to keep some
uniformity, the developer ,

Speaker 4 (37:48):
The developer sets, and , and it's very unique and
in , in all theirsubdivisions that the developer
sets the style of home that canbe built. It's fabulous. And,
and every, every developmentthat they do is, has a, a mark
that, a trademark that you cansee , uh, that's special.

(38:10):
Mm-hmm

Speaker 2 (38:11):
. Yeah . You know, a La Plata
community when you see it, whenyou come into it in Colorado
Springs. Yep . Yeah. Yep . Well, um, I hope that our listeners
and viewers will take the timeto learn more about the
project, call us to have a tour, um, look at the homes that
we're building, but also learnabout the overall project and

(38:32):
what the possibilities are forownership for them in the
future. Um, because I thinkit's just a , a , a , a
wonderful place to live and agreat community. So,

Speaker 3 (38:41):
And Christie , I just wanna say we do have a
website, Redlands threesixty.com mm-hmm
. And this is perfect becausethis is your full circle
podcast. Yes. And our taglineis Redlands 360, live Life full
circle.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yep . Oh , that's great. Yeah. And you do have
360 degree views up there,don't you? Yes, we do. Yeah .
It is beautiful. Well, thankyou for your time today.
Anything else you'd like toshare? Thanks, Christy . And
you have a, we appreciate this.
You have a website too, Phil?
We do. It's

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Getman homes.com .
Mm-hmm .

Speaker 2 (39:11):
So you can look up information on Redlands 360,
the development and GetmanHomes . And we welcome your
phone calls , uh, to learn moreabout this project. And happy
holidays to both of you. You ,you , for having us . Thanks
for being here . Us . Okay .
Thanks . We'll see you nexttime on the Full Circle
Podcast. Have a good holiday,everybody. Bye. Thanks for
listening. This is Kristy Reesesigning out from the Full

(39:34):
Circle Podcast .
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