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Embarking on a quest for the ultimate in security and self-discovery, I've found myself at a crossroads of intricate devices and profound BDSM dynamics. The journey through chastity led me to evolve past the Cobra by Kink3D, seeking out a device that's not only secure but also a testament to the unique path I tread in the kink world. Enter the Orion by Evotion, a custom-fit marvel that promises to hold the key (quite literally) to new levels of emotional intimacy and personal expression. With an eye for detail and comfort, I share the meticulous process of obtaining the perfect fit, the considerations for a base ring that feels just right, and the potential for a shared journey with a future keyholder. This episode isn't just about the 'what' of chastity devices; it's a narrative of the 'why' behind each choice and the 'how' of the deeper connections they foster.

As we navigate the sensual landscapes of leather and technology, I introduce the latest addition to my repertoire – the VacuGlide milking machine. This isn’t just a piece of equipment; it's a portal to explore the balance between control and release, where my hands-off approach to climax redefines the scenes I craft. We'll discuss the device's travel-friendly design, its setup for seamless scene integration, and the profound implications of consent extraction in our play. As the boundary between pleasure and chastity becomes a dance of dualities, join me on a candid exploration of how these elements intertwine, shaping the contours of self and sexuality with every locked moment and every automated pulse.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Full Cow, a podcast about leather kink and
BDSM.
My name is Edge, my pronounsare he, him, and I'm your host.
And this is another interludethe episode between episodes
offered raw and unedited, butwith Langlitz, leather creaking,
and I have finally placed anorder for my custom Chastity

(00:22):
device.
This is the culmination of avery long journey.
If you've not listened to theChastity Interlude or the
Chastity episode, I recommendthose to you.
In fact, the Chastity episodeis the most popular episode of
this podcast and has sinceinspired a class I like to teach

(00:43):
on chastity.
So for a long time I've beenreally exploring chastity and
thinking about a device thatwould allow me to do some more
long-term exploration.
And don't get me wrong, theCobra by Kink3D is a wonderful
device, but I could pull out ofit if I wanted to.

(01:04):
So I was looking for somethingthat had the same level of
comfort, something that could behighly customized and something
that could secure to a piercing, and so I would not be able to
pull out.
I did, of course, exploreSteelworks, which is sort of the
premier maker of customchastity devices, at least in

(01:26):
the ball capture area.
There's a whole nother set ofpremier makers when it comes to
belts and their prices aresignificant, which isn't in
itself a deterrent.
But most of their models, theirbase models, secure with a PA
and I have a frenum piercing.
So that was one thing.
The second thing is most oftheir base models are stainless

(01:49):
steel.
They do have titanium.
That ups the price even more,and I wanted something fairly
lightweight and I just I didn'tmind making the investment in
something as exquisite as asteelworks.
But I wasn't quite sure howlong or how far this chastity
journey would go.
So I've done significantresearch on lots and lots of

(02:13):
devices and what I finally wentwith was the Orion by Evotion.
I love that they callthemselves Evotion because it is
devotion without the D and Ithink that is so beautifully
clever.
The devices by Evotion, muchlike the Cobra Cage by Kink3D,

(02:34):
are 3D printed and that meansthey are plastic, that means
they're lightweight.
But unlike Kink3D, the Orion isprimarily a custom device.
There is a sort of standard oneyou can get if you'd like, but
I went for the custom route.
It's not cheap but it is not asexpensive as the Steelworks and

(02:55):
really, depending on how muchyou know kind of playing around
you have to do to get the rightsizing on a Cobra cage, it's not
a significant difference inprice.
I didn't think.
The other thing that I reallyliked about Evotion is that they
use security screws.
So instead of using a lock andI think I've spoiled this before

(03:17):
, but the little tiny integratedlock on a Cobra cage is keyed
universally.
So I mean anyone who's got aCobra cage you go to your friend
and they can unlock your Cobracage because it's all the same
key.
Security screws have a veryspecific shape on the head of
the screw that can only beunscrewed with a very specific

(03:38):
little driver that you get fromthe manufacturer and that
creates an extra securitybecause in a world where I have
a key holder not planning onthat soon, but entirely possible
in a world where I have a keyholder, if I hand over the key,
there's no way for me to unscrewit.
The other thing I really likeabout the Evotion is that it can

(04:00):
secure with a frenum, so it wasable to work with my current
piercing.
It was expensive, but not tooexpensive.
It was lightweight plastic,which makes it TSA friendly, and
they also have very beautifuldesigns lots of different
patterns you can get printedinto the 3D matrix, shall we say

(04:21):
I spent a long time measuringbecause you know anytime you're
getting something custom, youwant to make sure the
measurements are right.
I did the same thing when I wasgetting my rubber from
Invincible.
I got measured three or fourtimes by friends and then did
complex math.
I didn't do the math.
I have a friend who's anengineer who was able to do the
math to kind of figure out whichof the measurements were

(04:45):
furthest out of variance andwhich were therefore more likely
to be correct.
I did something very similarfor, hmm God, a week or two.
I would measure around the baseof my penis a few different
times a day and in a couple ofdifferent math methods, because
you have to measure thecircumference of the base of the

(05:07):
penis and balls right, sothat's the ring of the device.
You have to measure the lengthof the shaft to the glands.
You have to measure the glandsto the tip, you have to measure
from the tip to the depth of thepiercing.
So there are a lot ofmeasurements, and penises change
shape based on you know whattime of day it is, how excited
you are, how much blood is downthere, and so I wanted to make

(05:30):
sure that I had the bestrepresentation of my average
penis size, and that tookmeasurements after measurements
after measurements.
What I found, fortunately, isthat over they began to kind of
converge.
I began to find a kind ofconsistency, so that allowed me
to find measurements that I feltwere really pretty accurate.

(05:53):
The other thing I did is Iordered several base rings.
They have two different shapesof rings One is perfectly round
and the other is kind of roundbut triangular I'm not quite
sure they call it anatomicalright so it's a little wider at
the top and then narrows towardsthe base of the balls.
I and as it turns out I'm not afan of that shape.

(06:18):
The thing that felt mostcomfortable was the round one
and I had a good sense of whereto start with my sizing.
Because of the Cobra cage.
I knew what my ring was on aCobra.
I could look up on King3D'ssite what that internal diameter
is, and that gave me a startingpoint.
One of the first things Idiscovered is that because the
base ring on the Elotion Orionis a lot thicker or wider I

(06:42):
suppose you should say it'swider than the ring on a King 3D
Cobra that altered everythingbecause it was taking up more
space and I must have ordered ohGod, 12, 15 rings I don't know,
oh God, 12, 15 rings.
I don't know A lot, a lot.
And I would get them indifferent increments.

(07:05):
Sometimes I went up by half amillimeter, sometimes I went up
by a millimeter, because this ishow fine-tuned you want to be.
When you're ordering somethinglike a custom chastity device,
you want to make sure it'sperfectly, perfectly, perfectly
fitted to you, and that perfectfit may be a matter of half a

(07:25):
millimeter, right?
So I would get a ring, I'd getthem in sets of four or six, I
forget and lube it up and put iton and then go about my day and
see how it felt.
And some of the rings I meanall of them were tolerable and
some of the rings, all of themwere tolerable.
None of them felt too big asthough they were going to fall

(07:46):
off, but some of them definitely.
I could feel my inner thighskind of squishing them in a way.
That was not going to becomfortable and I was not
getting exactly frustrated, butI was getting the sense of, oh,
this is a lot, it's a lot, it'sa lot of rings.
It was a lot of investment tobuy the rings.
And then I tried one ring andit was as though it disappeared.

(08:09):
It was as though I no longerfelt it on my body and I kind of
instantly knew that was goingto be the ring.
But I still kept up myscientific explorations and
tried some bigger rings.
But at the end of the day I wasutterly confident I had the

(08:29):
right ring size and utterlyconfident about the rest of my
measurements.
So I placed the order.
That was, I think, two weeksago Now.
This is a very bespoke process.
It involves several 3D printingprocesses.
It involves hand finishing.
I'm not in a hurry to get it.
I'm not sure when it's going toarrive.
When I have it, I willcertainly give all of you a

(08:53):
report on my thoughts of theEvocean Orion device.
I'm pretty hopeful.
I'm also not entirely sure whatmy goals are here.
I do want to explorelonger-term chastity, however.
God, those effing nighttimeerections.
I am not looking forward to thenighttime erections and there's

(09:15):
no way around them.
And it just means a few nightswith severely interrupted sleep
before my body gets used to itand learns to wake up before it
becomes painful.
So I don't know how long I'mgoing to last, and it's not
because I get so horny.
I mean, I'm gray, sexual and alittle demisexual.
It takes a lot for me to getphysically horny.

(09:37):
That's just not the way I'mwired.
So my concern isn't necessarilythe horniness as much as
comfort, and that is especiallytrue for the overnights.
It's also true on a daily basis.
How comfortable is this devicegoing to be at the gym, at the
bar, in some tight leather, atwork?
These are questions that haveyet to be answered, but we will

(10:00):
have answers and I will sharethem with you all.
In terms of my longer journeywith Chastity, I do think
there's a future where I have apartner who is my key holder.
That is a kind of specialintimacy I probably, for me,
would only share with my primarynesting partner, slash

(10:24):
boyfriend, slash hopefullyfuture husband.
If there ends up being anotherkey holder, I will be quite
surprised.
I don't think I am willing torisk that sort of intimacy, that
sort of power and control withanyone else, except for the
person who has my heart.
But if you've got my heart, Imean you really already have my

(10:45):
penis.
So why not actually have thekey slash screwdriver to my
penis?
Oh, hold on, my cat's gettingmeowy.
I'm going to open the window soshe can look out.
She really likes looking outthe window, poor girl.
So If I have a boyfriend thatis on the table, not only do you
get my heart, you get the keyto my penis Not a bad deal.

(11:08):
And if someone else ends upbeing a keyholder, I will be
really kind of surprised in themost delightful ways, because I
just don't imagine I'm capableof that kind of connection,
giving up that much power andcontrol with anyone who's not
the man who owns my heart.
But we shall see.
So that's the update on mychastity journey.

(11:31):
There is a little bit moreinvolved that has to do with
some things around my body thatI haven't really been open about
on the podcast.
I've been very open about withpeople in my life, so some of
you know exactly what I'mtalking about when I talk about
my body and my chastity journey.
Others are completely in thedark and I'm going to have to

(11:52):
ask for your patience on that.
I don't know if it's somethingI'm going to talk about ever
because it is very personal andgood.
It's all good.
It's nothing troubling, it isall good, but it is something
that is going to facilitate mylonger chastity journey and
really was the important step toreach this culminating step of
getting my first ever customdevice.

(12:26):
Get a steelworks device intitanium because it's so
lightweight and so hyperallergenic, as a kind of
recommitment to chastity.
If I respond to it in a waythat makes my soul sing, that
really helps me to explore who Iam, that I can gather my sexual
energy and decide what to dowith it, that I can learn more
about myself by locking myselfor locking for my partner, but

(12:48):
probably by locking myself thenit's entirely conceivable that I
will then end up making thesignificant commitment that is
both financial and it's acommitment of the heart, I think
to get a Steelworks device, andif that happens I'll be happy
to tell you about that as well.
Steelworks device and if thathappens I'll be happy to tell
you about that as well.

(13:08):
I will say the people atSteelworks were super helpful.
I emailed them, they gave meall the pricing, I asked
questions, they answered themand the people at Evotion were
really super helpful as wellwhen I had questions about
ordering different rings orthings like that, and the
shipping on the rings was prettyreasonable.
There was one order that I feltwas a little slow and I poked
them and thing I know it was outthe next day.
So both companies.

(13:29):
I haven't had anything made bySteelworks but I have friends
who have Steelworks devices andthey speak highly.
I've had really goodexperiences with Steelworks and
then, on the other hand, I havehad really good experiences with
Evotion as well.
I can give you more detailsonce I'm actually locked.
Ironically, the other bigdevelopment in Edge's playroom

(13:52):
of dungeon fun is that I'vegotten a milking machine.
Just ironic, because on the onehand I'm getting my chassis
device, on the other hand I'mgetting a milking machine.
I ended up getting theVacuGlide by Autoblow.
I ended up getting theVacuglide by Autoblow.

(14:20):
And I looked at the Trembler byF-Machine because I feel like,
okay, the OG is the Venus 2000.
But you know it's that goes on.
The penis is kind ofcustom-sized to one person and
this is something I plan onusing quite a bit in my play.
So the Venus 2000 was kind ofout from the beginning.
The trembler was very appealing,except it's heavy because it's
built into a suitcase.
And the thing I like about theVacuglide is that it is very

(14:44):
similar in the physics and thedesign as the Trembler.
If you've seen a Trembler.
Imagine taking the actualpiston pumping part out of that
suitcase and that's what youhave with the Vacuglide.
It's half the weight of aTrembler and probably half the
volume as well.
Like the Trembler, it comeswith three different sleeves.

(15:07):
Now the Trembler has remotecontrol and they're now
Bluetooth-capable.
But I don't really think Iwould use that capability.
I'm always going to be closeenough to the device to press
the button.
I don't necessarily need aremote control and I would never
do any kind of remote stuff.
I've tried it.
It certainly works.
It is effective, much like theVenus, much like all of these.

(15:30):
There's a weight issue.
The receiver, the tube thatactually goes on your penis, is
kind of heavy and to make sureit stays on without flopping off
requires some MacGyvering.
I will say and I just got it,oh, I just got it this week.
So I'm still exploring andrefining.
But it's the kind of thing Iexpect to use a lot on men who

(15:52):
come to my playroom Because,again, I'm not really sexual,
I'm gray sexual, I'm not reallyinto fucking and sucking and for
me, like the point of the sceneis the scene.
However, a lot of men like toget off and I thought my won't
it be convenient, at the end ofthe scene, to strap them down
and put on the milker and slowlyturn it up and just have them

(16:14):
taken care of while I'm sittingthere enjoying my cigar?
So that is why I got a milkingmachine.
So far, I'm very happy with mypurchase of the VacuGlide.
I will be traveling with itlater this week so that makes me
a little nervous, but hopefullytravel will be okay.
And it comes with threedifferent sizes for the receiver

(16:37):
tubes, much like the Trembler,so I'm happy about that.
So this is the update on myjourney.
On the one hand, I have mycustom chassis device ordered
and hopefully coming to me soon.
On the other hand, I have amilking machine which can
extract your seed from you,whether you want to give it to
me or not.
Let me repeat that I canextract your seed from you,

(17:04):
whether you want to give it tome or not.
I imagine some of you are goingto save that as a little voice
file and I hope you do and Ihope you enjoy it.
And that is all for thisinterlude.
I hope every part of yourleather journey is super duper
blessed.
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