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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Full Cow,
a podcast about leather kink and
BDSM.
My name is Edge, my pronounsare he, him, and I'm your host.
And this is another interludein the episode between episodes
offered raw and unedited, butwith Langlitz, leather creaking
and I have good news on thatfront.
You know I've mentioned beforethat as my Langlitz jacket
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breaks in, it's getting a littleless creaky.
However, I have deposits placedat Langlitz now for new items,
including a Sidewinder jacket,so I'm hoping there will be new
creakiness about 10 months fromnow.
So in this episode I want tothink about activism and
resistance.
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These are topics that have beenvery much on my mind lately and
in general, I've been watchingmyself go through a trauma
response in the last week.
Specifically, I have movedbetween fight, flight and freeze
.
So in terms of freeze, I'vebeen very disconnected this week
.
I've just not really beentexting as much.
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I've not wanted to be aroundpeople as much.
I've been hunkering down alittle bit more and practicing
self-care.
In terms of flight, well, I'vealready looked into the
possibility of citizenship inItaly through my
great-grandmother.
I don't think it will workbecause it looks like she had my
grandfather after she gotnaturalized as a US citizen.
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Great job, mary Montalbano.
Why would you do that to me?
I have also looked at thepossibility of immigrating to
Canada.
I need to take an English testso that I can get into the
skilled worker pool.
So I am thinking about flight,but in the meantime I'm thinking
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about fight.
I'm thinking about ways in whichI can resist, and mainly that
means being more queer, beingmore leather, being more visible
.
That means I'm diving back intomy social media and doing even
more videos, and I'm thinkingabout softening these boundaries
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I tend to keep between mysocial media presence and some
other parts of my life.
I'm not quite sure about that,I'm still thinking and
reflecting on it, but I'mthinking about softening those
boundaries a little bit toincrease my visibility.
I am also considering wearingleather more often in my daily
life and there are a couple ofreasons I haven't done that.
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In part.
Leather for me is very sacredand therefore I don it when I'm
entering sacred spaces theplayroom, the bar, the leather
event and I don't know if I wantit to become mundane, but I do
think there is power invisibility and a kind of
activism.
Now, along with that, I amthinking about buying a gun, for
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my own self-defense, of course,but if I'm going to be more
publicly visible in leather,more obviously queer, I want to
make sure that I'm able toprotect myself.
None of this, none of this, isgood news, and it's a little sad
that that's where I'm at in mylife right now and perhaps
that's where we are as a worldright now.
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But it is what it is and I'venot made firm decisions about
any of this.
I am still processing throughmy trauma response and working
out who I want to be in this newworld.
Because it feels to me like anew world.
It feels like there's a change.
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It feels like what was is notwhat's going to be, and I have
to decide who I'm going to be,and I don't like a lot of what
I'm doing so far.
My heart is hardening a littlebit.
I am more distrustful of peoplethat I see around, like when I
am out running errands.
I am more distrustful of peopleand I'm less likely to be kind.
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None of those things I thinkare good things, nor are they
who I want to be, but at themoment it's who I have to be.
But I'm thinking instead aboutbeing a little bit more
strategic, about my visibilityas an act of resistance, and
it's important for me toacknowledge that.
Sorry, this is unedited, I hadto clear my throat, I hope that
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wasn't too jarring.
It's important to realize thatI am able to be more visible.
I am able to be more visible inthe real world and in social
media because of the package ofprivilege I carry with me.
You know, I've just finished upthe video series on
communication on my social mediaand the next series I'm going
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to be doing is about a conceptI've been bandying about quite
recently, leather privilege, andI have to check.
I'm sure someone else probablyhas talked about leather
privilege.
Someone with less privilege hasprobably talked about leather
privilege, and I want to reallylift their voice up and not
steal the term from them.
Hold on, I'm going to clear myvoice again there.
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At least I got away from themicrophone.
The notion of leather privilegefor me is bound up with other
kinds of privilege.
Well, I'll just sort of talkabout it, writ large right Like.
Leather privilege for me meansaccess to leather people, access
to leather spaces, access toleather gear and access to
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leather experiences, and I havequite a bit of leather privilege
right Like I can text formerIMLs.
I can text people who ownleather manufacturing or leather
clothing companies, leatherstores those people I have
access to, direct access to.
I have access to leather spaces.
Not only can I walk into anybar, but I have the resources to
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go to most events that I wantto go to.
Actually, if I put my mind toit, I could go to any event I
wanted to, but I also haveaccess to leather parties that
most people don't have access to, to leather play events that
most people don't have access to.
I have extraordinary access toleather gear and I have access
to leather experience.
Not only do I have a lot ofexperience, but if I wanted to
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learn how to do X, I would veryrapidly find a teacher who knows
X.
I'm excited for this videoseries.
I will say I think it's goingto be a really good one and
pretty timely, so I hope youwill find it.
Oh goodness, so I'm recordingthis on Monday, november 11th,
because it's a holiday.
This will come out on Friday.
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Yes, so the podcast is comingout fairly contemporaneously to
the video series.
The point about leatherprivilege is the reason I have
it is that I have all this otherprivilege.
Obviously, primarily, I have alot of economic privilege
socioeconomic privilege becauseI have the financial resources
to buy a lot of leather, to getmore langlets, to go to leather
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events.
Those require financialresources.
But there are complicatedpackages of privilege involved
here, including pretty privilegeand body privilege and
able-bodiedness, and urbanprivilege and Western privilege,
and I could go on and I will goon in the video series.
But the point I want to makehere is that for me, what allows
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me to be more visible inleather, what allows me to flex
my leather privilege, is thefact that I carry so many other
privileges, and this is a way ofsaying that part of why I'm
moving into resisting throughvisibility, through
outspokenness, through justspokenness let's not even talk
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about outspokenness.
The reason I am moving intoresistance through visibility
and spokenness is because peoplewith less privilege than me
can't.
It is more dangerous for themand I don't think it is without
danger for me, which is why I'mthinking about buying a gun, of
all things.
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I don't think it's withoutdanger for me, but I have a
package of privilege that givesme a little bit more protection
than people who are lessprivileged in terms of
socioeconomic status, in termsof age, in terms of
able-bodiedness, in terms ofneurotypicalness, all the things
right, all the things I like tosay I have the only privileges
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I don't have.
I'm sure there's more, but thetwo privileges I feel like I
don't have.
First of all, I'm not straight,because that's pretty high
privilege, and I'm not six footor taller, which is also a kind
of privilege that relates todifferent kinds of body
privilege.
But the rest of the privilegesthat I'm aware of I carry around
in my privilege backpack andthat makes me able to say things
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other people couldn't saywithout putting themselves in
danger.
It makes me able to be placeswhere other people couldn't be
without putting themselves indanger, and I am very cognizant
of that.
All of this came out of thekeynote I gave at the Glue event
in Houston put on by theMisfits, and this interlude was
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originally planned to be areproduction of that keynote
speech.
It's a little, you know, mykeynote speaking is a little bit
different from my podcasting.
The voice is a little moreanimated instead of this
soothing podcast voice thatpeople are apparently very fond
of.
So it would have been a littlebit of a shoehorning to move
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that keynote into the interludeand recent events pushed me in
another direction, but therewill probably be an interlude
down the line about that willreproduce the keynote.
But the point is that in thekeynote I was thinking about
leather privilege and especiallywho gets to fit into the
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leather community, who gets theprivilege of fitting, and as
part of that I talked about howthe history of our community is
a history of building spaceswhere we fit, and the people who
did that were the white, cis,urban, rich, gay men
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specifically men, because theyhad the privilege that made them
space builders.
Right, starting a bar, openinga bar takes a lot of resources,
takes a lot of privilege to opena bar, and so the leaders, the
ones who were making space forleather, were using their
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privilege.
Now the other thing I say in thekeynote is I could give up.
If I could wave a magic wandand give up all of my leather
privilege, what would happen issomeone who looks exactly like
me would step into it.
Some new, pretty privileged,body-privileged, able-bodied,
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neurotypical, cis, white, urban,western, gay, socioeconomically
privileged male would becomethe next edge.
So giving up privilege doesn'tchange anything.
I'm very aware of that.
I could give up my privilegeand nothing would change.
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The system would just notchdown to the next person in line
in the privilege parade.
The way for me to try to createchange is to use the privilege I
have to create space for otherpeople, for other voices, to
listen to them and believe whatthey say, and to speak with them
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, next to them, to give themplaces to speak, to make space,
literally make space at the barfor them, make sure there's room
next to me for them to leannext to me, and so that has
cultivated in me this awarenessthat at this moment in time, I
am privileged to be able to haveresistance through visibility
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and through spokenness in waysthat other people do not, and
that I need to exercise myprivilege to make leather
queerer, to make queer morevisible, to make queer more
spoken and outspoken.
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Yeah, probably something likethat.
Now, at the same time, I'mstill also considering my flight
response.
This is a perfect time for meto fall in love with a handsome
Irish-German-Spanish somewherein the EU.
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Please, gentleman, and marryhim and live the fairytale
fantasy of leaving this countryand having this grand adventure,
this last grand adventure of mylife, of a married life, but a
married life in another country,and that's just a fantasy, as
much as I'm exploring flight andas much as I probably at some
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point will take the English testand put my name in the pool for
Canada because I think that'sthe easiest post for me to aim
for, as much as I am imaginingflight, I also realize if I had
a husband in another country,like immigrations are not easy
period, and spousal immigrationis not going to be easy, so it's
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not an easy solution.
There are no easy solutions forme at this moment and so as
much as I consider the fantasyof flight, the truth is I'm
probably going to do a littlebit more fight than flight.
I'm going to do a little bitmore resist than run.
We'll see.
I'm working my way through thatand will be, I think, for a
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little while.
I don't know that I will bequote unquote, back to myself,
for I'm not sure when, I'mreally not sure when, and
actually I'm not sure which selfI am coming back to, that I
don't really know who I am orwho I'm going to be.
When this trauma responsesubsides, I might be a little
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more aggressively queer, I mightbe in general a little less
trusting.
I don't like that, but it mightbe necessary Because, even with
all my privilege, an increasein my visibility could risk
being hurt.
There could be consequences tothat, but I'm really trying to
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think about whether or not thepotential consequences are worth
what could be gained by makingthings a little more visible.
Now there are other forms ofactivism.
There are other forms ofresistance which are even more
active, which are even moreresistant.
I've thought about doing apodcast episode all about
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activism.
Actually, you know, I've beengetting my podcast topics from
ChatGPT because it's actuallypretty handy if you ask the
right questions, and that wasone of the topics ChatGPT had
suggested an episode on activism.
So that may come.
That may come.
I am now heavily thinking therewill be a season four of the
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podcast because the anecdotalfeedback I receive from people
is that it's necessary.
So there may be an activismepisode next season.
There may be a next season.
We'll see.
I'm still figuring things out.
I'm sharing all of this becauseI imagine many of you not all of
you, because I have to imagineI have listeners of all around
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the world in my podcast, butalso of all political
persuasions.
I'm imagining that many of youare also experiencing your
trauma responses and I think oneof the powerful things for me
was to name it a trauma responseand to see that what I was
doing was fight, flight orfreeze.
That was really powerful for me.
So I hope, in sharing myexperience, it gives you some
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perspective on what you're goingthrough and then perhaps some
tools to cope with it, a chancefor you to reflect on who you
want to be in the world.
That is the world that is nowand that's the interlude part of
this, you know.
I also want to give a quick plug.
I have a friend, boy Paul,who's a really great boy, lives
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to be under a pair of boots,very, very boot-focused, but in
general just a good boy.
He's a good boy.
You're a good boy, paul, Goodboy.
He has written a book calledQuips and Chains, which is a
book of leather word puzzles andthere are anagrams and ladder
puzzles and word searches andI've been doing the jumbles
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because they're really cute.
There's a little cartoon and alittle kind of punny thing and
then I like the jumbling and itrequires my mind to focus on
something else.
So, as we are approaching aseason that is traditionally a
season of gift giving for manypeoples, I think it makes a
great gift because it'saffordable.
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It's a kink gift that'saffordable and most kink gifts
are not affordable.
New pair of boots, box ofcigars, a leather uniform those
things are expensive.
But if you have someone kinkyin your life, particularly if
they like doing any sort of wordpuzzles, I think it makes a
great gift and I will be placinginformation about that in the
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show notes, so please check itout.
Beyond that I am going to be.
Next episode is our seasonfinale.
We've made it through anotherseason of Full Cow, so I'm
looking forward to that and inthe meantime, I hope that, in
the wake of what's happened,that you find yourself in a
place as best place as you canbe.
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I don't know that I can wishanything more than that, but
that's what I will wish, andjust know that I'm going to be
more visible.
I'm just working out the.
I'm working out the.
I'm trying to calibrate myvisibility versus the risk I
feel I might be facing and Imight flee.
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If I fall in love with someonein another country, I will
gladly flee, but that doesn'tmean I'll stop doing this.
This work is important and, Ithink, probably more important
than when I started it, so Ithink I'm going to continue
doing it and I'm going tocontinue doing it for you and
with that I hope your leatherjourney is amazing.