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Remember the days of perms, mullets, and portable TVs the size of two iPhones? Dave and Matt take you on a nostalgic journey through five generations, exploring how each has shaped our world and influenced the next.

Starting with the Silent Generation who survived the Great Depression and World War II, we trace society's evolution through the activist Baby Boomers who fought for civil rights and LGBTQ+ acceptance, to our own Gen X experiences (which Dave confidently declares "the luckiest generation"). We fondly recall the musical golden age of the 80s, those questionable fashion choices we made, and how technology gradually transformed from floppy disks to smartphones.

The conversation turns fascinating—and occasionally heated—when discussing Millennials who pioneered internet culture, and especially Gen Z who've never known a world without screens. As parents and observers of younger generations, we struggle to understand their relationship with technology, their expectations, and their approach to work. It's a candid look at generational divides that will have you reflecting on your own generational identity and the forces that shaped it.

Between generational analysis, we share our week (including Dave's birthday celebrations), discuss Sam Smith's latest identity announcement as "xenosexual," and vent about our pet peeves—from KFC's inability to count chicken pieces to supermarket aisle blockers. Join us for this thoughtful, humorous exploration of how we became who we are based on when we were born.

Email us with your questions at [e-mail] or message us on social media. We'd love to hear which generation you identify with and why!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to Fully Grown Homos, a podcast about our
adventures as fully grown homosnavigating today's world full
of inquisitive friends,questions about gay life and the
unexplored activities of a lifelived as fully grown homos.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
We'll discuss the gay 101s, sex sexuality and topics
we don't even know yet, as wewant your input into what you
want to hear.
Nothing is off limits, so emailus on the Fully Grown Homos
podcast at gmailcom or messageany of our socials.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Fully Grown Homos with Dave and Matt, and this

(01:00):
week we're going to talk aboutlots of different stuff, which
is unusual, and Dave's alreadydoing the nose breathing thing.
I know I can't help it.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
I've got a bit of a cold, but hey, I've just had my
Vicks up my nose, so that's allright, he's just stuck his Vicks
up there, so hopefully he'll beable to breathe throughout the
session.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
But yeah, so this week we're going to do a bit of
a weekly wrap.
We're going to talk aboutthrough the ages, through
different generations, and stufflike that.
But before we get into that,let's do a bit of a weekly wrap
up and then we're going to talkabout our favourite pop star.
So let's do our weekly wrap upfirst.
Dave, what have you done?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well, as you know, it was my birthday.
He had a birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
I did have a birthday Happy birthday to you and you
wrote birthday.
I did yay, happy birthday toyou.
Happy birthday to you.
Happy birthday to dave.
Happy birthday to you.
Yeah, we did an ai song.
Oh, you did.
I did an ai song for me.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, yeah, and that was pretty cool so, yeah, uh
caught up some friends um, hadlunch, had dinner twice, had
dinner twice.
Yeah, we had dinner at the cluband then we met up with, uh,
dick and fanny, um we did friday.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Well, that's it.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
That's a completely different event, but it's also
also part of the event, but itwas still, you know my birthday
was on.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Wednesday, so you know it was pretty, so we had
dinner at the club with Brittanyand Justin and Matt and Russ
Yep.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
And that was pretty much you turning up.
Oh, my son turned up as well,and your son as well, came for
your birthday.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yes, which nice.
Yeah, absolutely really nice.
Always nice to see adam, yeah,but yeah and um, and we got
through the night withoutarguing.
Yeah, it was really cool.
There was a couple of touch andgo moments there.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Oh look, I mean it was just you know, it's just the
way it is.
This is why we're talking about.
This is why we're talking aboutthe conversational generations
and stuff today is because it'sjust like something that we need
to address and talk about,because it's just like something
that we need to address andtalk about because it's
interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, correct, he does Grinded Gears, which is
quite fun to watch.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
And even Brittany was being challenged by him as well
.
Yeah, so that was pretty cool,yeah, which is fun.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
It's fun, but yeah.
So we had your birthday.
We went to the Carringtonwhat's it called the Claradine,
that's right.
We went to the Claradine, whichis out near Richmond opposite
the RAF base.
We were going to stop at thebead on the way.

(03:16):
Well, you were.
I wanted to go and get a quickBJ from some Navy guys or
something like that the military, so the ref whatever same thing
.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Military on the sea air force were in the air.
Okay, you don't get many boatsfloating by unless you're in the
hall, I do.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
I get many boats.
Yeah, you get blown by.
I get men everywhere, seaman,seaman.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yay, able seaman, I'm very able to be seaman um yeah,
so that was, and then I did abit more renovations, so I'm
making progress with that, whichis good.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
But on Friday night we went to karaoke at the
Claritin.
But before karaoke we had somedinner.
The food was really nice.
We had dinner with Dick andFanny and with Dick's son, yeah,
and his girlfriend, who I callboyfriend.
He calls me boyfriend.
He's girlfriend, who I callboyfriend.
Um, he calls me boyfriend.
He's a sweet kid.
He's such a nice kid, such areally well-mannered, respectful

(04:09):
young man.
He's just a cool and mature forhis age.
Yeah, and his girlfriend islike, absolutely delightful as
well.
Um, but, yeah, we had.
I can recommend the bakedcamembert.
Right, dave thought it was waytoo expensive for 22 bucks.
Well, for for an entree, it wasfucking sensational.
God, it was beautiful.
Had the pepitos on it with thehoney and what are they called

(04:29):
pepitos and what are they?
Matt, oh fuck you, they're punk.
They're the inside of a pumpkinseed.
All right, I don't say somewords, right, apparently,
according to dave, but that'sall right, just me, according to
dave, but yeah, anyway.
So that was absolutelysensational.

(04:51):
Would go back there just forthat.
Um, but the pizza was reallynice.
It was all really yummy food.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Um, yeah, nice environment, yeah really lots of
hot it was fun hot tradies um.
There's a few big boys thereweren't they there was some
there was as in big, like, as inlike, athletically big, oh yeah
, not fat, but just like wow,yes, you have to get in the
rugby tackle with them orwouldn't you?

Speaker 1 (05:14):
um, but yeah.
But then the barman there wasfucking hot god, he was sexy,
but we knew him.
Yeah, no, no, that was thesecurity guard.
Okay, but the barman, yeah, thebarman was the tattooed one
with a little mullet type thingthat normally isn't a hairstyle
I go for, but fuck, he was sexyand because he was cheeky and he
was naughty and cute, and thatas well, yeah.
So, um, yeah, you got yourloins going.

(05:35):
Oh, didn't he, didn't he,didn't he?
Indeed, I would have boughtdrinks from him all night, but I
was driving.
So, yeah, but yeah, um, so thatwas a fun night out.
Um, you've done some morerenovation.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, more renovation so, yeah, so starting to work
on the outside now.
Pretty much the inside's done,um, just by a few, few more
electrical things that need tobe finished off and touching up
here and there, yep um, but thepredominantly most of it is done
inside now which is good, yep,um, just the outside to do now.
Now it's all weather dependentand we're meant to be having

(06:07):
more rain this week, which isgoing to be a big thing because
it's like meant to be a massivedownpour.
We're going to be getting like80 mil on tuesday, I think it is
.
So it's a lot of rain, yeah, Iknow.
And then you've just dug thefront garden up and you've put
holes everywhere ready forputting posts and stuff in.
It just becomes a little bitmore uh, challenging, yeah,
challenging to say the least youknow, but that's you know, but

(06:28):
it just delays everything then,because, obviously, with the
cold weather and the way, therain, the rain, way the way yeah
, that's a new word, isn't it?
Uh, the rain, um, it does makeit harder for me to sort of make
that progress, which is whatI'm hoping to get done.
Um, but look when the, thebuilds are there, they're great.
I mean, they just smash througheverything and me half the time

(06:48):
.
No, I'm joking, you wish?

Speaker 1 (06:51):
You did have a hot tradie this week.
You thought he was apossibility.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yeah workable for sure, yeah, anyway, so I won't
digress.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Didn't put it out there.
Though.
Didn't put it out there, well,I don't, it's too scary.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Well, I don't mix work with pleasure.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
I mean, I value my.
You should never get your meatwhere you get your bread.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
I value my tradies too much to try on, because you
know I just wouldn't want it togo wrong and lose them.
I could try it on for you.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Well, you could, it's fine with that.
Don't get your meat where youget your bread anyway.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Well, it depends If they come on.
To you that's different.
You know what I mean, nice.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Look, I've had people come on to me in my workplaces
and I didn't go there becauseyou can't.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, yours is small.
Yours is different to mine.
I mean, I'm self-employed, soI've got but, there are rules
for me.
Yeah't want to lose the tradesI've got if it all goes wrong.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So as much as the fantasy canbe there, the reality is just

(07:51):
get on with the work anyway,yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
So there wasn't much else for me.
I continued unpacking, I tidiedmy garage this week.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
You've done well.
Your house is looking so homely.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
My garage is done now , finally, which is kind of good
.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
It now finally, which is kind of why it was probably
a good move actually, you moving, oh yeah.
I mean I feel good energy inthis house, I feel very good
vibes, I feel very calm andrelaxed as I said, I would
design this house, I'd do it alittle bit different like if it
was a bit more modern yeah, itwould be great, but I do like
the layout.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
I'd probably put a second bathroom in, but that's
easy enough to do in in here ina renovation.
If you were doing, yeah, forsure you got big enough laundry
to do that enough laundry to dothat.
So yeah, but, um, but yeah,tons of, tons of opportunity
here.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
It's just, it's just a nice flow, even even where
we're doing a podcast from thisroom here it just feels very
calming, very.
It's got good light, it's gotum, I don't know, it's just a
nice, nice presence.
It is.
The dogs seem to be very subtlehere, don't they?

Speaker 1 (08:46):
They haven't talked much through the podcast, so
they're very comfy and cozy.
But it doesn't hurt that wethrow the ball around for 15
minutes.
Tire them out a bit.
Yeah, it makes me want to havea nap as well.
Just waking you up makes youwant to have a nap.
Correct.
So that's pretty much our week.
I haven't done much.
Yeah, absolutely, we're goingto go to church today.
We are, we are going to church.

(09:07):
We're going to go to churchBecause you're off today,
because you can be, because youworked nights, because I did a
couple of overnights, so I sortof definitely clocked up my
hours and so hence didn't gointo a day and we've got a
Sunday off, so we'll go andcheck out church for a while.
Haven't been there for a whileand the last time you went you
said it was very good yeah verygood.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I mean considering what we've been in the past, and
we kept on saying we're nevergoing to go back there again
because it was just like a dyingday.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, this is.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Arrow's church, the one they'd write on me.
This is where we met andeverything else.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
You said it was very good, so I'm hopefully getting
some action.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Nice cock um and ass and all of the other, just and
catching up with people that youprobably haven't seen for a
while.
Yep, shave my balls a bit thismorning.
Oh, did you?

Speaker 1 (09:50):
oh yeah, because I think the last time I went and
noticed my cocking was likepinching, all right, and I went
oh fucking hell, I haven'tshaved in a while, right?
So all the hairs were gettingcaught.
So I gave myself a bit of atrim while I was in the shower
this morning, did you?

Speaker 2 (10:03):
just oh yeah.
Okay, you've got to be carefulthough, because you don't want
to nick anything, do you?

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Well, I kind of did, I nicked a tiny little bit
because I was going in the wrongdirection but only at the top.
So it's okay, not on my shaftor any of my balls, yeah, but
you've got to be careful.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
I mean going, yeah, I'm putting dead oil on my no.
No, I didn't do that.
I think I heard you screamingin the back garden.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yeah, correct, correct.
Oh, there you go, sam.
All right.
So, yeah, that's our week andwhat's going to be our weekend,
I guess, but I need a momentGoing to talk about our
favourite pop star.
Who is it, sam?
I mean Dave, oh what.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Who's our favourite pop star?
Who is it?
Sam, I mean Dave, oh what.
Who's our favourite pop star?
Clam Smith, clam Smith.
He's no longer Clam Smith, he'sno longer Clam Smith.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Oh wow, what's he changed now?
Well, he is now identifying asa xenosexual.
What the fuck's a xenosexual?
That's what I thought you wouldask me.
What the fuck is a xenosexual,right?
Well, xenosexual is a sexualitythat cannot be understood by
the human brain, so we couldjust leave it there.

(11:11):
So how does he understand?
Well, because he's clearly axenosexual, so he's not human.
He's not human well, it says,most of the time, individuals
that identify with xenosexualxenosexuality are attracted to
non-human entities, and notnecessarily aliens, not

(11:32):
necessarily.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Not necessarily Okay.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
All right, so I've got some examples here, all
right.
Now I'm reading this fromSexuality Wiki, which I'm
guessing is like Wikipediasexualitiesipedia sexualities,
okay so I'm guessing I'm gonnadig deep down in this website
later um, but some examples canbe of xenosexuality is demons

(11:55):
where they are, the biblicaldemons, whether they are
biblical demons or part ofanother religion.
Slash belief people might beattracted to these regardless if
they are part of anotherreligion.
Slash belief people might beattracted to these regardless if
they are part of that religionor not.
Right?
Extraterrestrial beings?
Right?
So these aren't necessarily thebig, green, big-eyed aliens

(12:18):
that many people know.
Extraterrestrial being oh fuck,that's really hard to say.
You've got testicles on yourbody.
Extraterrestrial beings, Idon't want.
That's really hard to say.
You've got testicles on yourmind.
Extraterrestrial beings, Idon't want to like extra
testicles, just two's enough,three or four?
Well, it depends.
I've seen a bit more.
Yeah, you have Extraterrestrialbeings.
Just mean that they are fromthis earth.

(12:39):
If someone is attracted to analien or an extraterrestrial
being, fuck.
Why do I put that word so manytimes in here, being whether
it's fictional or not, dependingon their beliefs.
Please be respectful.
It says.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, but what I don't get is when you said at
the beginning they don'tidentify as a human.
What was the word?
As is xeno-sexual is sexualitythat cannot be understood by the
human brain so if sam smith issaying this about himself, then
he's obviously not a human.
Yeah, because he can't be if he.
If he's not identifying a humanbrain can't identify it.

(13:16):
So what brain has he got?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
well, they're also attracted to ultra humans or
non-humans.
This is basically people thatfall into the alter human or
other kin umbrella, notnecessarily identifying with
animals.
But could what Right?
Alter humans and non-humans?
I'm getting fucking confusednow.
This is why it cannot beexplained by the human brain.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Well, look, I'm saying if he's identified, he
hasn't got a human brain.
So what fuck is he?
What is he?

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Well, this is what he tends to continually surprise
me.
All right, like I don't get, Ilike one we discussed when he
was like sam sam was.
Sam was originally identifyingas a male, so he was a.
He him, yep right.
He went on to non-binary.
They then, um right, they them,which is fine.

(14:05):
Yep right, um, I, I've got myhead around that.
Yeah, just about to a degree.
Yep, all right.
Um, through conversations witha lot of people that are
identifying as non-binary, yeah,yeah and we've discussed that a
million times over.
Um, then to an oyster, then toan oyster, which, then to an
oyster which again Was sobizarre, so bizarre, so, but now

(14:28):
to Xenosexual.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Do you know what the sad thing is?
He's a good performer in termsof his songs and a good artist,
but he's screwing himself over,I reckon.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
One of my friends had a spare ticket to his concert.
Years and years and years andyears and years and years ago.
Yep, right, and I thought, oh,the guy's a bit miserable.
Not the guy that I went with,because he's fucking talking
about the original sam smith.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah right.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
I thought he's a bit miserable in concert, yeah, as a
vocalist his songs but Ithought I'd go along because my
friend asked me and he's a goodmate and we went along and I was
blown away by how good he isvocally but also his Stage

(15:15):
presence.
His stage presence, his abilityto actually sit there and
basically say, look, I know mysongs are miserable, but let's
have some fun here in betweenand all this kind of stuff.
And so he really he knowshimself right.
Obviously, songs are miserable,but let's have some fun here in
between and all this kind ofstuff, right, and so he really
he knows himself right,obviously, but but I, I don't
know that I could go now.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
No, that's what I'm saying.
He's, he's.
I think he's screwing hisaudience memberships over
because they're now getting amisrepresentation of him as a
person.
Well, he's not in a personanymore, is?

Speaker 1 (15:45):
he Well, no, I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
How are you going to publicise yourself if you're
saying come to see Sam Smith.
I mean who the fuck is SamSmith anymore?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Who are you anymore?
But look, it's confusing ashell for me.
I'm no doubting it's confusingfor our listeners.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I mean I still would have liked to have seen his
passport changed to an oysterand that would have been fucking
hilarious.
You know what I mean.
Could you imagine going throughtheir fucking passport
immigration and looking at thatpicture saying you don't
identify as an oyster?

Speaker 1 (16:13):
I do so I've got so many questions Because they're
no sexual right.
Like I said, they're attractedto non-human identities, right?
So is there like a Tinder fornon-humans?
We should do an app.
Hey, that could be a thing.
Money makes me stop.
There's a patent on it, peoplewe put a patent on it?

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, ours.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
So like is he going to be the only one on said app
Because that's going to bereally bad which he can go fuck
himself?

Speaker 2 (16:42):
in, I guess, but how would the conversation?

Speaker 1 (16:44):
I don't know what language they speak.
Well, depends, because aliensare from around the universe,
like from different galaxiesyeah, but it might not be.
It might be demons.
What?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
what noises do these fucking be?
What language they speak?
Oh that'd be.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
How'd you know that?
Because I speak alien.
Now, I'm xenosexual, wow no,but I really like cock and human
cock.
Okay, let's just make sure thatit's not.
But yeah, all right.
Okay, rant is over.
Okay, all right, rant is over.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
We wait with debate for further analysis.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
We'll also see what he changes to next time.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
See what happens next .
Where'd you go from there,anyway?
I mean, is there anythingcoming back?
Maybe he identifies a blackhole?
Next, you might have been inthe future bottom that's what
he's come from.
He's been through the universe,zap through a black hole and
never come back.
Oh god, you never know.
There you go, we'll leave itlike that, we'll leave you there

(17:44):
.
So, anyway, going back to ourconversation with my birthday
and my son, so today's maintopic.
Yeah.
So I spoke to you and said youknow about the generations and
how much Gen Z in particularwarmed me up, and it's not just
me, it's a lot of friends ofmine who've got kids in the same
age brackets.
So I said to Matt would it befun to do a topic on generations

(18:06):
and not just his generation,our generation, our parent
generation and the one beforethat?
Yeah, so we're going to go backas far as the silent generation
and I got a list what agebracket?

Speaker 1 (18:17):
is the silent generation.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Okay, so I'll give you an idea of the generation
what you know are born, yeah, sobasically the silent generation
.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Let's do it piece by piece, yeah, yeah, rather than
rattle them all off.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
No, no, I'm going to go back.
So the silent generation wasborn between 1928 to 1945.
So my late father, he was bornin 1943, so he would have come
into that, so he was the lastones of that that generation.
Now, what I can tell you aboutthe silent generation here on
wikipedia all, and it's quiteinteresting because it does make
sense a lot of time.
So the silent generation willrefer to basically as um the the

(18:51):
smallest generation, becausethey were born during the great
generation, a great depression,sorry, and the end of the world
war two.
So they were basicallysuppressed by uh societies.
You know um need to adapt andsurvive.
I suppose they didn't haveanything.
You know, they were basicallyum living in poverty.

(19:11):
They had no, um, uh, what'scalled no conformity to anything
.
So they had to, they had tobasically pull together to
become unity, you know I meanyeah, so a lot of so they were
all starting from scratch.
Yeah, basically.
Yeah, yeah, so they grew upwith pretty much nothing.
Zero luxuries.
Yeah, exactly, and by the timethey finished their generation

(19:32):
and passed it on to theirchildren, which we'll talk to
next, in their next generation,basically, they had, you know,
pushed through all of thosesocial challenges they had, a
lot of them chose to joinmilitary, because that was the
biggest employment.
Um, oh, yeah, yeah, the war,yeah, and also what it was
saying is after well did theychoose, or was that when they

(19:55):
were getting conscripted as well?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
oh no, no, well I'm not well, I think.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
I think it's not.
What conscription is, I suppose, the word, but it's also, you
know, it was necessary at thetime.
Yeah, because it didn't havepeople to fill those slots, and
the world was very differentback then.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, you had a lot of unrestin terms of, like, people trying
to suppress each other with warand everything else.

(20:20):
You know.
But I'm just going to try andread a few things here for you.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Um, excellent because I'm not an expert.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
So yes, so the silent generation was also born, like
I said, during a period ofrelatively low birth rates or
for similar reasons to theunited states.
While this is going in theunited kingdom, this is, they
live through times of prosperityas young adults economic
archival in middle age andrelatively comfort in later age.
So as they got older they wereable to start to change the way

(20:52):
society was.
You know, I mean, yeah, theyfought hard to um, adapt and
overcome the poverty andeverything else they had.
So they were like the forbearin the forerunners of, like,
making the world a better placeto live.
Does that make sense?
Okay, they had the hardship andthey took it and made it work.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
So they were definitely a hardworking
generation.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Oh, absolutely 100%.
And they also then went on tohave lots of children because
they were born into a very lowbirth rate period.
Because of the wars and thedepression, there wasn't much
around, so parents chose not tohave have children so they all
come back from war hornybasically exactly, and this is
where the baby boomers took off.
So their children, right bornbetween 1946 to 1964, were the

(21:37):
baby boomers, and that's wheremost of our parents fit into,
that's where my dad so.
So, going back to um, let'shave a look.
I did write down, so the silentgeneration, the very one first
one.
I said that they would beapproximately 79 to 96 years of
age now.
Okay, so, look, they're prettymuch towards the end of their
lives, but that's that's, yeah.
Yeah, I mean in that regard,you know most of them, you know

(21:59):
um.
So the baby boomers are now,you know, you know you're
talking about 20 years youngerthan that.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
So they're talking like 60 to 80 years of age now
yeah, yep, and then, like I said, that's where my dad fits in.
Yeah, um, and they were ahard-working, oh look they.
They really like my dad.
I remember having three jobs,um, like he worked at a pub.
He worked at um as a mechanic.
He sort of did other work onthe side as well.

(22:25):
He, like they really worked,worked to put in and get ahead,
um, but what do?

Speaker 2 (22:34):
you got on that one?
No.
So they say um, often shortenedto boomers.
The demographic cohort precededthis by the silent generation
and then followed by ourgenerations we'll talk about
next um.
It's often defined as peopleborn from 1946 to 1940, 1964,
during the mid-20th century,baby boom.
So you're talking like the1940s, 1950s, 1960s.

(22:55):
They had a lot of influence ifyou look back at those periods
in time, definitely, especiallyin the 70s.
So basically they theychallenged society.
They were out there tochallenge society.
They became so what's the wordI'm looking for?
So knowledgeable in terms ofwhat happened prior to their

(23:15):
parents being suppressed, beingin a world of, like you know,
poverty and everything else.
They didn't want that.
So they uprose and theychallenged society.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
They were change makers.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
This is where the hippies and all that came into
effect.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Well, that's when Stonewall was 1969.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
A lot of riots went on, a lot of challenges to
society, and they were sayingfuck you, we're not having this
for ourselves.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
So it definitely changed the queer perspective
from Stonewall, which were theriots that were in 1969, where
basically drag queens and gaymen and lesbians all sort of
rose up against the police andcaused a big riot or had a big
riot.
Lots of people died,unfortunately, but there was

(23:55):
definite change that came aboutfrom it and they weren't afraid
to front into that change, Iguess, which we're grateful for,
because that's actually sort ofgiven us a lot of the rights
and the privilege that weactually have now so social,
social rights and socialmovements definitely was what
they're, they're the synonymousfor.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
I mean, you look at everything around the world and
you know.
You look at the periods of timeum relating to, like I said,
you know the vietnam war andthat they were so anti it they
didn't want any more wars.
We had Woodstock all thosethings.
But they were out thereprotesting and they changed a
lot for society.
I mean, we can be grateful fora lot of things that they've

(24:37):
done 100%.
You know what I mean.
And again, very hard workers.
They brought in modern jobs andeverything else.
They sought to betterthemselves.
They went to education, theylearned how to sort of like what
you're looking at.
No, I'm just looking at yournotes.
Oh, no, that's just a generalno, I'm trying to work out your
dates.
Okay, yeah, sorry, yeah, so I'mreading pretty much stuff off

(24:59):
Wikipedia here.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
You know what I mean.
So this is also.
They were also responsible forMardi Gras here, you know I mean
.
So this is also.
They were also responsible forMardi Gras.
So 1978 was Mardi Gras.
Yeah, exactly our first MardiGras.
Again, it's a protest, you knowI mean yeah they were.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
They were basically changing the wrongs for rights.
Yeah, you know, in a big waveand that just started all the
way through, from the 1950supwards, you know.
I mean they kind of embracedlife, they loved to aspire to
better themselves.
You know what?

Speaker 1 (25:24):
I mean, we had the swinging 60s.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Well, look at the glamorization.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Sexual revolutions.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
They brought in so much Music started.
Started, yeah, but then ourgeneration then took that
further, which we'll talk about.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Well, there's debates as to when the best era for
music is.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
I mean, I love the fact that you can go back, and
every single 10 years there'salways a different generation of
music coming through.
Different style different things, different artists, different
people, and that's great.
I love it.
You know, same with movies andfilms.
They've adapted and changedover the times as well.
But look, I mean it's not untilyou start looking back and then
you realize just how lucky youare as a person to live your

(26:02):
life in the generation you are.
And you know I'll go on to thisbecause I mean we're going to
talk a lot more about ourgeneration because we've lived
through it, yeah, and we stillare living through it, yeah.
Um, so our generation being genx, anyone born between 1965 and
1980 is in that group of people.
All right, so we're gen x,we're with gen x, yeah, okay so

(26:22):
so 1965 to 1980 so that was thebeginning.
We're pretty much the beginningof um that that generation.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, so we're not the boomers and we're gen x.
What?

Speaker 2 (26:33):
I'm saying is we were born up here, so the boomers
were the ones that wereprotesting.
They were at the age.
Yes, I've explained to youbefore, so we are grateful for
them.
You know?
I mean I'm moving forward.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
All right, I'm thinking to myself that 78,.
But obviously they would havebasically been born Eight years
of age, yeah, yeah, so theywouldn't have been protesting at
eight years of age.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
No, exactly, that's right, that's great.
So, like I said, I mean, youknow, the baby boomers are the
ones that push society Mathingain't my strong suit.
Look, I mean with it, don't getme wrong we've.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
We've affected a lot of change in our generation and,
yeah, I guess the, the, thepain and the heartache and the,
the protests and the law reformsand the pushing and the pushing
and the pushing for the equalrights and things like that has
definitely sort of come about, Iguess, starting from like your
78ers and some more rights andthings like that.

(27:22):
But we've carried it forwardand we've really put marriage
equality on the and that's onlya new thing.
Right, and it wasn't becauseeveryone wanted to go out and
get married, but we wanted theright to.
If we were, how partner was inhospital, um, we had no rights
to legally go and see them, yeah, so we wanted those kind of
like I said.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
I mean I think what I can take.
I mean this is being biased aswell, because obviously I am Gen
X and I've lived through theyears but, talking to all of our
friends and all the people whoI've grown up with in the same
period of time have said that Ithink we have been the luckiest
generation because we've hadfreedom given to us, we've had
the introduction of basictechnology, but we've also had

(28:04):
that ability to go out and havefun.
Yeah, you know, and we werereferred to, or we are referred
to, as a latch, latch keygeneration.
So basically because societychanged a lot, more women had
gone into the workforce in thebaby boomer period as well, so
parents were producing babies ata massive rate.
So population growth was likeexponential.
Exponential, should I say yeah,but also at the same time, they

(28:24):
had to to work together yeah,to bring the family household,
so they were very connected as afamily.
The baby boomers, by the time wegot to gen x is ours, um, it
was beginning to be a little bitmore harder for them, you know.
I mean so you did see a lotmore family dynamics breaking
down.
There was a lot more umdivorces happening to start with
, you know, or maritalbreakdowns, fathers leaving the

(28:46):
fold and basically, you know,single parents becoming more
popularized in that period oftime, if that makes sense, um or
more not popularized, but it'snot more present, yeah, more
present.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
So that's the wrong way to say popularized um.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
But like I said, my, my take on gen x is music is
definitely the thing, that thingthat spurs me on through life.
It really does.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Well, look, if you look at every generation, they
had music styles, right andiconic music styles, but
undeniably, undeniably, isdefinitely the 80s.
Right was the best for musicridiculously the best.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Because you had the influence of disco pop in 70s
through to rock.
Yeah and then you've then goneto the new romantics.
What we are, you know, peopleof loving and very more calmer,
very more sort of like, you know, easy listening music, but with
that beat, you know I mean,yeah, and then you've got the
then add-on of new technologywith the beatboxes and stuff
coming through.
You know, I mean, so it's across mix of a lot of Symphs and

(29:44):
all of that.
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, exactlythat Like something that was
never heard of before.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah, you see that with Cindy Lauper, those icons,
those abs, shira and stuff likethat.
Now I know she bridged fuckingevery generation and still is.
Yeah, she has 70 years andstill is.
I know she's amazing.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
It's just ridiculous.
You can't imagine being part ofit.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Madonna launched her career in the 80s.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
I think someone said that Cher has had one number one
hit for every generation of herlife.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
I don't doubt that.
I don't doubt that.
So she's had at least 70 years.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah, and she's had at least one number one hit
somewhere in the world thatspecializes in her music.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
That's pretty cool somewhere in the world.
Yeah, that specializes in her.
Her music pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
That is so cool pretty cool, pretty so cool,
yeah, but it wasn't just that.
I mean, you know, for megrowing up you had take tv was
taken off.
I mean, you know, we didn'thave many channels and we were
lucky we had maybe one or twotvs in the house at that point
color tvs as well, rather thanblack and white yeah, yeah, I
remember while we're on tvs.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
I remember watching the Olympics right on this
portable TV, right with theneighbours.
And this thing, I swear to God,I'm holding up my hand Fit it
into the box.
It literally would have beenabout four inches.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
Just bigger than maybe two iPhones together.
Maybe, yeah, two iPhones.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Two iPhone normal size iPhones.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Smaller than your laptop.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, about four inches wide, like, like square
across this little tiny TV andthere was like me and the
neighbours all sat around andwatched this thing.
I wish I still had that littleTV right, Because it would have
been so cool to still have whatI'm saying is technology took
off so much then.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I mean we had the introduction of, like the
computer systems.
I remember having my very firstSpectrum was what I had?
Sinclair Spectrum.
I mean you know, because at theend of the day, innovation was
coming through and technologywas changing the way we looked
at things.
I mean I studied computerstudies at school, but it was
very basic, you know.
We were learning like the 1960sCharles Babbage was the one

(31:39):
that invented.
You know the um, you know the.
I believe you.
Yeah, the computer I had atandy trs8.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
So tandy was a big tech company back in the day,
yep, yep, um, and I had a trs80right and it had a floppy disk
right.
I said floppy disk, yeah, disk,um.
And then it had like, and thatwas a three and a half inch
floppy disc and something likethat and you used to insert this
thing into the actual computerand it would read.

(32:09):
So it was like predating, yeah,cassette tapes and all that
kind of stuff, um.
But then you actually bought anadd-on for it that you actually
plugged in and it was acassette, a cassette program,
right.
So it was like a cassette.
And I remember having this, thisum program that was like a
psychic reader it was calledesmeralda the psychic reader or

(32:33):
something like that, and you'dbasically type in a command or
like a question and she'dactually give you an answer to
your questions, like a psychicwould and stuff like that, and
it was obviously allpre-programmed, yeah.
But I sat there and I went likethat was insane, because this,
this trs 80, um, if you googleit and I'll put a picture up
when I do this one, right, butit was the, the, the screen and

(32:57):
the keyboard, keyboard were allconnected with a little pot,
little place for the floppy diskon the side and stuff like that
, yeah, and again, like it'll bein a museum somewhere.
But if you look at the factthat this thing was big and it
was heavy and I remember movingit house to house and that for a
while and it used to weigh afucking ton, right, so the tech

(33:19):
that was in there was stupid.
And now I pick up my phone andI think you actually said to me
a couple of weeks ago well, yourphone's really light, right.
And I went yeah, I know, andI'm thinking to myself, but it
does way more than I could everdo before.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, yeah, for sure so it's just like I know we've
come a long way yeah, and youthink that most of these phones
that we have and now they're allsuperseded as well, they're're
just waiting the new ones are onthe shelves, waiting just for
us to spend more money and, youknow, get that technology given
to us.
But look at the end of the day,I mean, you know, I can be so
grateful for a lot of things inthe 80s, like I said, learning

(33:57):
about music.
I think also, we became muchmore creative in the 80s.
You, we became much morecreative in the 80s.
You know arts and and stufflike that were taken off bigger.
You know people, people weremoving into the more the, the
artistic sort of like we'reallowed to do what we wanted.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, becausefashion was a big thing in the
80s, a huge thing bad fashionsome really bad, yeah, but look,

(34:18):
I mean, it was like what wasyour?

Speaker 1 (34:19):
worst fashion moment through the 80s.
A lot of the mullets were thefucking worst I fucking ever saw
.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
No, for you personally.
What the worst I hated.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
No.
Now, when you look back and yougo, oh God, what was I thinking
For me?

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah, I mean, I just had a bald haircut.
I didn't have much choice forthat.
My mum gave us all the samehaircut Me and my brother and my
sister we had.
These fucking haircuts were thesame.
That would have been hot.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
It was not hot at all , it was like fucking I think
like I don't know you've got theold Nana jumpers and stuff you
used to wear, I think, thecolour choices Retrospectively,
when I look back at photos and Isee there's a photo of me
somewhere.
Shell suits no, no, I don'tthink I ever had any.
Oh, you would have had a chance.

(35:02):
No, we were too poor.
Really, we didn't have any ofthat kind of stuff.
Yeah, no, we didn't have themoney.
I literally had a pair of jeansthat I would wear to school
every single day, to the pointwhere they got threadbare Right
and then.
So basically only then did theyget replaced.
If then they got replaced and Iwas sort of growing at a rapid
rate as a teenager and they justfitted me the whole way through

(35:25):
school, pretty much right.
But I was also in a situationwhere we, like my mum was a
single mum, yeah, and we neverwent hungry, no, but I literally
had a vegemite sandwich everyday for lunch.
Yeah, right, for school, that'sit like a vegemite sandwich.
No wonder I was thin back then.
Yeah, fuck, I might try thatdiet again.
Um, no, um.
But I think I look back at myfashion faux pas and I had quite

(35:52):
a, quite a many um, no wonderpeople knew I was gay, um, or
assumed I was gay because Iactually had a perm, right, oh,
you're kidding.
Um, yep, yep.
Just imagine this little headwith a perm and blonde bleached
right.
Michael Bolton rings a bell tome, yeah, that's a look, even

(36:15):
one style there.
One time there I actually wentto the hairdresser and actually
had a Batman symbol cut out ofthe back of my hair, bleached in
the back of my hair.
Now I'm grateful that there isno evidence of that, but I do
look through photos and Icoached my sister's netball side
to win a grand final.

(36:36):
So I remember seeing, Iremember this photo of me in the
grand final jacket, which is aburgundy maroon, yeah.
Which is colourfulundy maroon,yeah.
Which is colorful, then.
Which is colorful, yeah.
And I've got this it's likeit's earth tones but it's very
flecky, kind of like shirt withwhite shorts and these white
leather sandals, but they hadlike all straps cut out of them.

(36:59):
Oh nice, you're very fashionsense.
I'm so fucking gay.
It's not funny.
I'm like I'm sitting there andgoing like who was I hiding?

Speaker 2 (37:09):
from.
But the thing is, at the timeyou were just following the norm
?

Speaker 1 (37:12):
well, I was.
I thought it was a shit, nodoubt yeah, but we all followed
that.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
It's like the leather ties and leather ties.
It was like the perms for thegirls, the rara skirts, all
those had a perm, all girls did,but it was.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
My sister had a perm.
All girls did, but it was.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Every girl had a perm .

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Like if you look back at it, it's fucking hysterical,
I know right, Because it's likea.
She looks like she had atriangle on her head Because it
was a perm, but it was a bob cutperm.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
But also the makeup for the girls and the boys.
They had a lot of mascara, alot of colourful eyelashes,
eyeshadows and lipsticks.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
But I also made my sister wear like she was not a
style icon and she never was,never will be.
She just doesn't do fashion.
But I'd made her.
I think I dressed her like aBarbie.
I used to go to the jean shopand buy her lots of clothes and
stuff like that, but I'd boughther like a white denim dress and
things like that, which wasreally hot because she had an

(38:09):
amazing body when she wasyounger and all that kind of
stuff, right, um.
So the thing is that, um, weall grow up, we change our body
shape quite frequently, um, butlike she looked great.
So, um, the thing is that shegot that.
Um, I may, I'd seen rachelhunter Hunter, who was Rod
Stewart's wife at the time, Ithink, or she was dating Rod

(38:29):
Stewart.
She was a model from the 80s.
Yep Again, she wore thisbeautiful fishtail dress to some
event or something like that.
And when my sister was havingher year 10 or year 12 formal, I
got a local dressmaker to makeher the same dress so that she
was so fashion forward.
I'd sit there and go like the80s has got a lot to answer for,

(38:49):
I know.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
But in the best way possible, I mean I I if I could
go back in time, I would go backand spend my time again in the
80s, over and over and overagain.
You know when you can get thatloop like first bueller has his
day off and whatever you know.
I mean, I would love to just beable to wake up every fucking
day and go back to how I was,because I was so stress-free, I
was just living my life in thehat I had the happiest time ever

(39:12):
, you know, I mean, and therewas just so much to do.
You know, we were always out, wewere always playing outside,
we're always never home.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Well, yeah we we'd had like and I remember the
people from school, right, wehad like rock and roll parties,
right, or fancy dresses, yep,and people didn't give a fuck.
They used to actually getdressed up without thinking, oh,
what are these people going tothink about me?
Right?
Yeah, there was no judgment,was there?
Yeah, no, like, we stayed intents in each other's backyards,

(39:39):
right, and that was actuallyfun.
That was actually fun, that wasconsidered fun, right, because
that's where I lost my virginityum, to a girl or a boy, both,
okay, actually, yeah, same day.
No, no, no, no, no, it wasn'tnot the same day.
So I, I fooled around with agirl, excuse me, in my own
backyard.
We had a tent and we wereplaying tent poles.
No, we were playing spin thebottle and um.

(40:02):
One thing led to another, and asit does, but then the with the
guy um wasn't under the house no, no, it was in his tent as well
, okay, and his backyard right,um, and we started falling
around a bit there, but thenthat carried on into his room
where we'd play atari, right,and I dare him to play with my

(40:24):
gear, my joystick, and viceversa, and that's when it then
started leading into him havinghis showers and me needing to go
to the bathroom you mentionedthat the podcast before yeah,
and then it was like in his bikeshed.
How I fucked him in his bikeshed and that's not a metaphor,
um, it's just like some bikeshed, but but the thing is, I
mean looking at the list butlike so many could be grateful.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Like the arcades.
They were big back then, youknow.
I mean they were like huge, youknow, and obviously, like you
said, the fashion sense, the um,the styles of the people and
the clothes and the music wereall definitely for me, the this
or like the precedence that Iwanted to go back to each day.
You know, I mean yeah, yeah, um, but yeah, so that that was

(41:06):
pretty much our, our generation.
I could talk about this one, goon and on and on, because I
just get so excited.
It makes me feel happy inside,so that it is a great it does.
The thing is, you don't thinkfor mental health issues and
stuff like that.
I think, going back, reminiscingon if you've got a happy
childhood or you've got happytimes that you can refer back to
.
For me I'll always go back tothe 80s, just because you know

(41:27):
it's, it's something georgemichael, where or when?
Um well, exactly, you know, Imean, most of the music was good
.
When you think about it rightnow.
Our generation itself, most ofthe people in our generation,
are now between 60 and um, whenI, when I left it sorry, 60, go
fuck yourself.
Sorry, I'm in 50, up to like 65.

(41:49):
Yeah, that's our generation nowand we fit into that bracket
now.
So, holy shit, I just turned 55.
I know you did, you're a fucker, I know, but you're a year
behind me.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
No, I'm like about 30 years behind you still yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Mentally, mentally, yeah, mentally.
I'm about 40 years old.
Yeah, by fucking age It'll belike 55.
Yeah, that's one thing Later on.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Today You'll feel a bit younger.
Maybe, Maybe you never know,Nice big cock up yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
I'm not sure about that.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Hey, I'm just going to type in Generation Y, because
that's what comes next?
So after our generation?
So what age bracket?
Gen Y, more referred to as themillennials because it happened
over the transition between 1999to 2000.
So their generation started in1980 and technically finished in
1994.

(42:36):
So I don't quite get whythey're called millennials.
And it can go as far as 1980.
It can also go from 1981 to1996, depending what you Google
it.
So I'd say anywhere between1980 to 1996 was the Gen Y
stroke millennials.
I've got no idea what thatnoise is.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
I don't know either but it's annoying.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
You were saying Ratnay or anything.
Okay sorry, I think it's yourboombox.
Okay Sorry, I'm just Googling,just gonna.
I'm just googling something youcan't, so the millennials.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Okay, yep, there's a lot to unpack there.
So I guess they're the.
That's where entitlement sortof started.
I think, um, like it's wheretech let's do that.
I don't know what it is.
That's's where tech definitelykicked in.
I think it's this Give me this,unplug that, because that's
kind of annoyed the living shitout of me, I don't know why.

(43:30):
Yeah, definitely was that.
So tech definitely startedthere in a big way.
So we talk about our computergenerations and things like that
, but that's when peopleactually started developing
software.
Really, I think Apple reallylaunched there.
I'm not sure what else happenedthere.

(43:52):
Like, the 90s was also reallygood for the music because you
had the Spice Girls and thingslike that.
You had lots of really goodmusic coming out of the 90s,
especially the early 90s,because that was sort of
bleeding over from the 80s andthat as well.
Yep, what else have you gotthere for us, dave?

Speaker 2 (44:09):
I'm just going on so looking like this.
Sorry, that's all right.
So they were basically thefirst generation to grow up with
the internet itself.
Millennials have been describedas the first global generation.
The generation is generallymarked has been elevated uses
and familiarity with internet,mobile devices and social media,

(44:31):
okay, and technology in general.
So that makes sense because alot of the people who look at
now, like the youtube platformsand stuff like that, are people
of that.
They've hit it when it wasrunning, you know, I mean, it's
fresh.
So they're the ones that arenow making the massive amounts
of money because they were thefirst people to take on the idea
and run with it.
You know good dialogue.
Well, look at, look at, uh, mrbeat, is it mr beat the one that

(44:52):
did that show?
That one was the mr beat.
I think his name is theyoutuber.
He's the one that made thatshow.
Mr beats, mr b, sorry, yes, thebeast.
He's made his money because hewas that generation.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
He was an OG YouTuber .
Well, he's a millennial.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
So he's actually run with it since the day dot and it
makes sense.
You look at all these peoplelike the Kardashians and stuff.
They were millennials as well,so they've now taken on board
that.
You know people like ParisHilton and stuff like that.
They've got that thing set inmind.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
There was nothing before them.
Reality TV wasn't really big.
Yeah, I guess that's whenreality TV started kicking in.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
That's what I'm saying They've landed feet first
with everything given to them.
You know what I mean.
And they've taken it andexpedited it, Run with it.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah, exactly, so it's again a pretty hardworking
generation for the most part.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
But they've integrated social media and and
and all these technical umdevices into their daily, daily
life.
So they've whereas we weregrown up and we were introduced
to them, but not, it wasn't ourmain thing yeah, we'd still
actually see the outcome.
Yeah, we only had a very smallamount, but they then grew up
with them because it became partof their lives and they adapted

(46:02):
and developed and developed anddeveloped to the point where
then that generation after thatwhich is what we're going to
talk about later on, which is myson's generation not too much
later on.
No, no, no, no.
But what I'm saying is, youknow, the generations have
basically bounced off each other, haven't they?
Yeah, so you know, like I said,we can be grateful for what we
had the generation after, so on,so on, so forth.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but again to what point.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
This is what I'm saying.
When we come to my son'sgeneration.
I think they've lost track ofreality completely.
Now I think they've become soinvolved with what's given to
them that they don't.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
So the millennials, yeah, they're pretty good right.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Yeah, did a lot.
I mean you know again, I meanyou'd be thankful for.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
The music game was great.
Music was pretty good, prettygood forward more towards a
patch on the 80s, but it's stillpretty good.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
It's still pretty good, you know, I mean like new
artists coming through and alsostyle changes as well.
You look at technology as well.
I mean you know going throughthe cars and you know the house
styles and everything else anddecoration, furniture.
They all change as eachgeneration comes through.
You know, I mean I styles andeverything else and decoration
furniture.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
They all change as each generation comes through.
You know what I mean.
I think they were the ones thatdecided wallpaper was no longer
cool, which is a good thing.
It can be sometimes, yeah, itdepends, depends how you use it,
but it wasn't on every wall, no, and it depends how bold it is.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
As well, correct, correct, you know what I mean.
So then you've got Gen Z.
Got gen z, yes, which is wheremy son fits into.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
So gen z.
Is anyone between um?

Speaker 2 (47:25):
1997 to the year 2012 .
Now, my son was born in 2004,so he qualifies for that yep.
But my taking it as a parentnow, you know, I mean going from
being a child to a parent um,doesn't get it.
I don't get them.
I really do not get them.
Um, I understand that they'vebeen brought and, as my son will

(47:47):
always refer to me and tell methat you, you don't know, you've
never grown up with it, youknow.
So how would you know?
And I understand what he'ssaying, I never grew up, so my
childhood has been completelydifferent.
He's grown up with all thistechnology in his face since he
was born, you know, and I'vethrown a mobile phone.
Everything was there for them.
But I think my perspective ofit, yeah, this is.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
This is where I think part of the problem lays today.
Well, exactly so.
Everything was for them, right,so exactly.
The problem is not just theirsto carry.
No, it's also yours, not yourspersonally.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
But definitely yours.
But we have to deal with theramifications of their needs.
You know what I mean.
Well, you guys actually createdthis monster.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
We fueled them, you created the monster.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, exactly, by giving them everything, not
personally, but society.
No, excuse me, no.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
You guys give him everything.
Okay, and I'm not just him, butlike his parents, like I'm
talking children of thatgeneration.
Well, that's what I'm saying youwant to make your children's
life a better place.
Yep, absolutely, undeniably,right, absolutely.
My sisters have done exactlythe same with my nephews and
things like that.
Right, they want to make themfor a better childhood than they

(48:59):
had, and so on and so forth,right, so they worked bloody
hard to make sure that theywanted for nothing.
You sacrificed a lot for them.
Yeah, unfortunately, some ofthat generation has gone.
Well, why should I work?
Why should I do anything?
They've already done all thehard work for me.
Right, I can sit back, chill,relax.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I can have my take and eat it too, either, too.
I think also they look at themillennials and see what they've
achieved in terms of theirsuccess, in terms of, like, the
domination, the social mediaplatforms and stuff, and they
believe in the heart of heartthat they can do the same thing.
But they can't because it's nowold.
Yeah, they've missed thatopportunity.
You know, the millennials willalways own that spot in life or
in the universe, because they'rethe ones that created it.

(49:46):
They're the ones that haveactually cemented themselves in
it.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Well, there's still spots to be had, but you've got
to work hard for it.
And this is where I think Gen Zare not prepared to do.
They're not prepared to put inthe work to get the thing they
want.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
And it's not every single Gen Z, no, no, no, it's a
collective.
I would say at least 85% of thegeneration are the same in
terms of the way they think.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
I think they want it, and they want it now.
Right, they believe theirbelief system and this is only
my opinion, obviously, but theirbelief system is that they can
actually go to uni, sit down ina classroom, learn everything
and come and get paid way morethan anyone else to do the same
job.
Right, because that's whatwe've told them.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
We've told them that this is important, that's
important, that's important andbut again, I think they've had a
lot of influence as well fromthe millennials.
Because just going back tomillennials, I've just seen this
thing on thing which I meant tobring up before we changed over
to Gen Z was the millennialsbasically had a lot of.
They saw a slower growth ofeconomic growth, more recessions

(50:57):
entering the marketplaceworkforce.
They also weighed down withstudent debts.
So they were the ones thatfirst took on student debts.
But of course, our generation,we didn't have it because we
didn't have to pay universityfees as well.
Nothing I can't remember everhaving to pay university fees.
I never went um anyway.
So you know they're the onesthat took on those things.
But also it says fertilityrates around the world drop

(51:18):
dramatically, so they haven'thad as many children as well.
So they've gone from being babyboomers to where we are, to
backwards again.
So we're going backwards.
And look at most people thesedays they have two kids.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
Well, the thing is, I think the fertility thing has
got a bit to do with theeconomics, because it's an
expensive world we're living in,exactly Right.
So the thing is, housingaffordability is at an all-time
low um.
To actually buy a house, to geta deposit for a house, um is
virtually impossible for a lotof these guys, kids or these

(51:51):
people of gen z sort of agebrackets and all that kind of
stuff, because they're notprepared to necessarily go and
put in the work right toactually really bank that money
and point bank that coin,because that's what it's going
to take right now.
I know my nephews areexceptions to the rule, um,
because they've got investmentproperties and all that kind of

(52:14):
stuff and they really haveworked their little butts off to
make sure that they canactually do all that um.
So they, they are doing allright out of it all um, but
there are, like some, so manythat that just struggle and,
yeah, they'll never get ahead.
So it's lucky that they've gotparents that have actually gone
ahead and done yeah but, like Isaid, every generation has a

(52:37):
direct correlation to the onebefore them you know, I mean
yeah obviously.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
So whatever happens in that generation will be
evolution.
Yeah, exactly, but it has amassive effect.
So, going forward again, I meanit says that gen uh, the
millennial, sorry also lost thereligious base.
They appear more spiritualizedas well.
So, you know, they, they foundthat religion wasn't main, the
main thing they had to follow.
They felt, okay, we're gonna gospiritualize, and this is

(53:00):
probably where sansmith fallsinto this fucking category.
That's not good, but I'm justsaying, you know, I mean yeah,
um, but anyway.
So going back to gen z again,um, they've, they've, they've
now become more anxious.
I see that in my son all thetime.
Yeah, his anxiety levels, hisdepression levels are very high
and I think that's down to toomuch interaction on social media

(53:24):
.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
It's a lack of human connection but they don't.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
They don't get out enough, they don't socialize a
lack of human connection.
Yeah, exactly, I'm saying soeverything's face value on the
phone.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
They don't have that ability to talk to you face to
face look, I guess theintroduction of apps and things
like that, right, great fortechnology, great for us because
everything's quicker and easierand there is so much more
available.
But as a flip side to that,there's the lack of human
connection.
So the thing is that, with withthe introduction of all that

(53:57):
and by handing people and Iguess people of current
generations, um, don't realizeby handing their child an ipad
to babysit them, right, they'rehaving an effect long term,
right but it's a thing to do now.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
They do it.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
That's what they do like, and we we've got friends
and family and they're doingphenomenal jobs at parenting.
I'm not ever going to disstheir parenting, because I
wouldn't ever fucking do it fora million years, right.
But by handing them an iPad,yep, you're wanting them to, and
I guess the way our parentsused to send us into our own
room to play, right, becausewe'd go and get told you can't

(54:36):
sit out here with the adults,you've got to go in there with
the other kids, right, and stufflike that.
So I guess that's a way ofkeeping them nearby.
But sending them to anotherroom almost is by giving them an
ipad, um, but what you're doingis fundamentally setting them
up so that they can watchsomething on a tv but we've also
lost the, the discipline aswell within society.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
I mean, our generation was probably the last
ones that were disciplined andwe respected everybody.
Look at going to school.
I mean you know, our teachers,you know, were always respected
and stuff.
I mean you had a few thatweren't you know.
I mean, yeah, two kids, but ingeneral you'd always say good
morning, mrs.
So and so good afternoon.
Whatever.
You'd respect people, you hadmanners and that.

(55:17):
That soon that went away, assoon as society said, you know,
give them their rights, givethem their freedom, they're
entitled to have, you know, avoice this is, and I get it.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
You know, where do you?
Draw the line this is where I'dreally hate to be a parent in
today's society, because you'renot allowed to whack your own
kid exactly you cannotdiscipline your own child.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
And this is what I'm saying.
The world has gone crazy interms of being controlled by
societal needs, and conformingto what society tells you you
can and can't do has allowedsociety to change the way it is
today.
And I do blame society in lotsof ways, and I've told you this
before, um, but it's having aramification as the generations

(55:57):
are moving on, because again,they're becoming so complacent
with what their rights are.
And you know everything else,and you know I know we're gonna
have to wrap it up very soon,but all I'm just saying too is
you know, I struggle tounderstand gen z.
Yep, I get frustrated with genz.
I don't know where they'regoing to go in the future.
I know we've got alpha.
We've got alpha that's alreadyjust finished and beta is now.

(56:19):
So I don't know where those twogenerations are going to go,
because I haven't done enoughresearch.
But I think we're going down aslippery slope.
I think we're going to get tothe point where there's not
going to be any control overanything.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
The beauty of it is, though we're not going to be
around to know, but we are for alittle while.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
We are for the next 20 years?

Speaker 1 (56:38):
Oh fuck, no, I'm not living that long.
I hope you do, absolutely not.
Who am I going to go to?

Speaker 2 (56:46):
church with Take your teeth out and go by yourself.
We'll be going to the properchurch by that stage, won't we?

Speaker 1 (56:50):
Praying at the proper altar.
I won't be going to any kind ofproper church ever, but anyway
so we'll.
So generations wrapped up um,but just very quickly.
I know if you could choose twogenerations to swap.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Who?
Which two generations would youswap up?
What do you mean?
Like gen z and the silentgeneration I would love to swap,
give the people of depressionthe ability to have something
and give the ones of society,now gen z, back to where they
had nothing and see how theywould live, see how they're not
permanently exactly, but theymight need that to shake up
society, to, say, generation ofprincesses where they had

(57:25):
nothing and see how they wouldlive, see how they'd live, not
permanently, but just see.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
They wouldn't cope Exactly, but they might need
that to shake up society, to say, fuck, generation of princesses
.
Appreciation of the previousgenerations is far more needed.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
No, but I blame your generation for that, because you
guys give them everything, butyeah, well, there you go, anyway
, so that's my take on it anyway, anyway, anyway, if you've got
any, generation.
Questions you want to tell us,then let us know yeah, what's
your gen story?

Speaker 1 (57:41):
um, but uh, who's your favorite generation?
Hit us up on our socials.
Fully grown homos podcast, um.
However, we're going to jump into pet peeves so because, apart
from certain generationsobviously being pet peeves for
us, um, we've got a couple ofothers that we like to talk
about all the time.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Now, dave do I have to go first?

Speaker 1 (58:05):
okay, I can go first, I don't care, go on, then you
go first, I'm gonna go first,all right.
So my one of my pet peeves now.
I'm not a big takeaway fan.
I don't eat much at all becauseI've had my gastric sleeve
surgery but if I'm gettingtakeaway, I need it to be
fucking right right now.
If I'm ordering via an app,right, which tells you exactly

(58:27):
what you've got to put into thebox, right, when you're going to
do it, how you're going to doit, I need it to be right.
Right.
If I go to hungry jacks, forexample, I'll order my bacon
deluxe, minus tomato, minuslettuce, minus lettuce, right,
blah, blah, blah, so and soforth.
Right, they get it right everytime without fail, right.

(58:47):
I went to KFC the other weekafter moving house.
We ordered the freaking familyfeast which had on the box 10
pieces of chicken, a potato andgravy, a coleslaw, a large chips
.
It actually had two large chips.
I got one of those subbed outfor the bread rolls, because
that's my favourite thing in KFCthe little bread rolls.

(59:07):
They're super sweet and yummyand delicious, right.
And a Pepsi Max Got home, saidto Dave how many pieces of
chicken you got, and he went two, I've got one.
So two plus one is three, right?
Plus four is how many seven?

(59:29):
Well, there was no more in thebox, right?
So we got seven pieces from a10 piece.
Now, I'm not good at math, butI learned how to count the
fucking 10.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
I just want to jump in here, Matt.
Who do you think was servingyou?

Speaker 1 (59:46):
The fucking child.
What generation was serving you?
Oh, gen Z, or fucking whateverthey are.
We just discussed thatSeriously.
Exactly my point taken.
I get that you miscount one.
Well, I don't, because it'sonly up to 10, so it's not that
fucking hard, all right.
Get that you miscount one.
Well, I don't, because it'sonly up to 10, so it's not that
fucking hard, all right.
But seriously, seven like it.

(01:00:06):
And then I rang up.
So I rang up because I'm I'mnot a karen, right?
No, no, we're near right.
But I thought to myself this is,if it had been one, I would
have not bothered, right.
And the reality is you'repaying for that, that I'm paying
for it, and not cheap.
Kfc is not cheap, no, right.
And it's not a fast food, butI'll get into that in a second
Right.
But it just grinds like this.

(01:00:30):
So I rang up and spoke to againa 12-year-old and said she's
like, oh, yeah, I'm the manager,I'm thinking maybe one day.
But then she said, oh, I'm sosorry, I'll write down the book.
Which led me to think well,clearly, there's a book for this
.
So clearly this happens often.
So these fucking kids just getit right.

(01:00:52):
If you've got a job, takeresponsibility for it, take some
ownership for it, learn how tocount to 10.
That's not that hard, right,but I was very polite when I was
telling her as well.
I wasn't rude and I wasn'tobnoxious, angry and and, and
karen, um, so it was just likereally pissed me off.
But you did go back a weeklater, back, no, about two weeks

(01:01:14):
later, two weeks later, right,and said, look, you know, this
is the situation.
This is the order number.
It was written in the book byyour 12-year-old manager.
No, I didn't say that, butthat's what I was thinking.
Yeah, right.
And then it took her about 10minutes to work out where said
book was.
And I don't think she actuallyfound it right, because she came
back and she says, oh so, wasit just replacing the three

(01:01:36):
pieces of chicken?
And I should have turned aroundthen.
No, it was actually replacingthe whole meal.
Um, check your book.
But I didn't.
I just said, yeah, justreplacing the three pieces, okay
, right.
And so she just replaced thethree pieces of chicken, right,
but I can guarantee you shedidn't check any book.
There was no fucking bookanywhere that she could find,
because, again, she was probably11, this manager, um, so what

(01:01:58):
did you do when you got yourmeal?
this time so I got it and Icounted every single thing in
there and made it show everysingle piece in front of them,
in front of them.
But so was everyone there,literally every single person
that got any food before theyeven left, right before, before
they even left the counter, theyopened it up and they were
checking every single piece offood, right?

(01:02:20):
So this is obviously a thing atthis particular restaurant, a
particular kfc right, where theyfuck up so frequently that
people now know that they haveto actually check their food
before they even leave thepremises, which does my head in.
Yeah, and supposed to be fastfood, right?
This peep is great, I love it,right.

(01:02:41):
Supposed to be fast food, right?
This peep is great, I love it,right.
Supposed to be fast food, right, because that's what it's
titled, right?
Um, well, it took us 27 minutes, right, and I know this sounds
entitled, but it's chicken, it'scooked, it's potato and gravy,
it's cooked.
You pull it out of a fuckingdrawer.
You watch them pull it out of afucking drawer.
You watch them pull it out of adrawer 27 minutes, right from

(01:03:02):
order, right, and it was like 10pieces of chicken, potato and
gravy chips, fucking coleslaw.
They're not making any of it onsite.
But guess what?
What?

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
All the people going for the dry street were getting
theirs before you.
Just let you know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Don't, don't, don't, I'll, don't, don't, don't.
I'll kill the people in thecars.
Um, no, I won't kill anyone,but that's what I'm saying.
The priority is fucked it.
It really fucking did my headin, it did my head in.
So takeaway fails yeah, well, Iwould also rant around about
fucking fast food places.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Go dave, right, my fast food place is the big m big
golden arches.
Yeah, well, again, they'refucking useless as well, aren't
they, you know well, anyway,I'll have a coffee and I ask for
a flat white because I want aflat, fucking white.
Yeah, okay, and what do Ialways get?
Matt, I get a fuckingcappuccino, right, and the

(01:03:53):
difference between a cappuccinoand a flat white is the fucking,
is the frothiness, right, yeah.
And I don't want half a cup.
And I guarantee you, I pick upthat cup and I feel like it's
empty.
So I purposely scrape away thefucking froth and yet it's half
empty.
Yep, I then look at them andsay I asked for a flat white,
and they look at that's what yougot.
And I said no, it's not.

(01:04:13):
Look.
And they look at me.
So if I drunk half of it andI'm like no, I've just fucking
washed away all the fuckingbubbles that you made, I said I
asked for a flat white, oh, okay.
And then they give it back toyou and it's fucking half cold,
you know, I mean.
So my biggest pet peeve isfucking mcdonald's.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
You need to fucking sort your barista people out, so
sort it out like 7-eleven nevermakes that error, because I
love 7-eleven I mean, and thecoffee there is great Well it's
changing.
It's changing there, I thinkit's changed.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Well, they've got this new thing, haven't they?
So, yeah, that could be anotherpet peeve, maybe going forward,
who knows?
Yeah, have you got another one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
I've got one more.
I've got two, because I'veactually got two.
Wait, which one are you lookingat?
The middle one, it says high,something or other.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
High boom, I don't know.
High booming.
High fiving?
I don't know High rooms?

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
I don't know, it doesn't matter, it'll come to me
.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
It's double O-M-S, it's a B or an R, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Anyway, high rooms, no, I don't know what the fuck
is a high room anyway, I don'tknow.
Dave, you know I can't read myown writing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
You must not.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
But anyway.
So I do have my other one right, and it's social media love
confessions right.
I fucking hate it.
It does my head in.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
In what way?

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
In the way that I know right and it's not
necessarily friends of mine, butpeople that I've got on social
media Right They'll be sittingin the room next to each other
and they'll go.
I love my husband blah, blah,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, or
it'll be.
I love my wife blah blah, blah,blah, blah.

(01:05:54):
No on social media, so they'reposted to their Instagram, their
endless love for their partner.
Right, posted to their Instagramtheir endless love for their
partner, right.
When you know they're sittingin the room next to each other,
right, and confessing their loveon social media, right, it just
makes me sick.
It's like a PDA but for theworld to see.
But then you see them togetherand they're never Disjointed.

(01:06:18):
They're never nice to eachother, even they don't even like
each other so it's a falseillusion it's all for social
media and it does my head in.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Well, I think social media is full like that, full
stop, regardless whether it'sabout that or not.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
PDA.
It's like PDA of the highestform.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
I've got an article that publishes shit on there and
I'm like fuck, fuck, that Ican't bother you.
Why don't you tell everybodyabout every single fucking pea
on your plate?
You know what I mean.
Why do you have to fuckingbroadcast all that shit?

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
I'm chocking at that.
Okay, I love posting my foodpics.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Yeah, but you don't say oh, look at how many.
I've got 10 peas in my plate.
Look everybody, and I've got,like this potato gravy next to
it, the P just think it makes megag.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
I just think, like you know, um, I've seen, I've
seen a post and it was a gaycouple that I know of, and I'm
thinking to myself you guysaren't like that like, but
you're wanting the world tothink you're like keeping false
images and it's just I'm sittingthere going like, but then
they're all like happily engaged, married, blah, blah, blah,
blah, blah, and it's for theirfamily.
And I'm thinking but I also knowthat you guys play separately

(01:07:27):
and together, yeah, but you wantyour family to think that
you're all happily married,engaged, all this kind of stuff.
Well, again, it's down tosecurity.
You don't even like each othergenerally.
I know because you fucking hitme up separately and said don't
want to play with him.
Stop um and don't go anyfurther, okay don't stop now,
right, all right, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
What's your next one?
My next one is supermarketaisles.
Now ball easy, tiger.
Yeah, well, I, I can't standwhen you're going down an aisle
and you're restricted as it isanyway, because there could be
people stacking shelves andstuff which I get because you
need to have stock on theshelves yeah, but when people
stand in the fucking middle ofthe aisle with their trolley and

(01:08:08):
it's half turned and they'reyapping, yapping yapping,
yapping and you can see them andyou can't get past them and
they just look at you and you'relike fucking move.
You say excuse me and they justlook at.
You have to even have to beexcused, when they're standing
there fucking in the middle ofthe aisle, yapping, yapping,
yapping, yapping, and they canclearly see you trying to get
past and they don't make anyeffort, or they got their

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fucking prams and they goteverything else in the way and
you're like, fuck off.
Yeah, I'm trying to do myshopping, I get.
So what you do is you walkaround the other way and then
what do they do?
They fucking follow the uber.
So that, just like, is myfucking pet peeve.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
Yeah, I get that I get that.
That is that is somewhatfrustrating, and imagine trying
to work there and get past thesepeople that want to sit there
and have a 40 minuteconversation in the middle of
the aisle with their 17 childrenthat have just come from sports
, and so they're fucking trippedin dirt and mud all over your
supermarket go and fucking standby the fucking carrot aisle and
fucking talk.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
I don't care what I do.
Carrot aisle, you like thecarrot aisle?
I'll leave my carrots.
All right, I got my last one.
What's your last one?
My last one is about the petrolprices, the disparity.
You know what I mean.
I know they go up and downbecause we're fucking used to
that, but what grinds my is whyis that one particular road, ie
Mulgoa Road, where we are inPenrith, is the most expensive

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fucking road ever?
Because, Penrith can afford it.
No, everywhere else you gowithin five kilometers away, and
they're all fucking at the sameprice, which is like 30 cents a
liter, fucking less.
Yes, and it's just like why.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Why?
Why do they do it?
Because it's price gouging.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Exactly.
But what I'm saying is why isevery single one on the same
fucking road the same?
Because it's price gouging andthey can do that well it gets on
my fucking tits.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
It does get on your tits frequently, because when
you leave petrol.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
You shouldn't have to go fucking 10, 15 kilometers,
that you're worried to get afucking better deal and I do
because it makes more sense well, and you know me, I just I
don't care, because I get thatcovered in my arm.
Well, you don't?

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
You still have to pay for it, yeah, but I don't at
the same time, so I never evenlook at it.
But yeah, well, that's beenyour pet peeves.
My take on the generations.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
I'm sure there'll be something else that I'll think
about.
No doubt, no doubt.
My head ticks all the time.
Yeah, no doubt it does.
There always is.
My head ticks all the time.
Yeah, no doubt it does.
We'll be talking about ouradventures next week at church.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
Yeah, correct Also we'll get to church soon and
we'll talk about our weeklywrap-up next week and that.
But yeah, all right, we're offto get some tick and some ass
and do all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
So we hope you have a good Sunday.
Yep, we've had a good Sunday sofar.
Sunday.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Yep, we've had a good Sunday so far.
Yeah, alright, I'm Dave.
I've been your Fully GrownHomos.
I'm Matt.
He's Dave, and we'll talk toyou soon.
Love you, bye.
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