March 17, 2025 • 58 mins
When Dave and Matt finally attend Fair Day after missing last year's event due to asbestos contamination, they discover it's much more than just a celebration—it's a vital hub for community education and support services many LGBTQ+ people don't know exist.
The duo's adventure begins with an accidental night in Newtown after a concert date mix-up, leading to surprising conversations with locals and hidden bar discoveries. But the real eye-openers come the next day at Fair Day, where they encounter organizations addressing critical but often overlooked issues affecting queer communities.
At the Positive Life NSW stall, Dave volunteers for a hands-on demonstration of what anal cancer feels like—a condition increasingly affecting younger demographics. The Sex Workers Outreach Project challenges stigmas while providing essential services. Most sobering is their visit to the DVA Foundation, revealing shocking statistics: 72% of LGBTQ+ people experiencing domestic violence never report it, often fearing their situations won't be taken seriously.
Perhaps the most thought-provoking moment comes from their straight friend's observation about how segregated the queer community appears—Bears with Bears, Twinks with Twinks—questioning how a group that advocates for inclusion can seem so internally divided. This outsider perspective sparks uncomfortable but necessary reflection about the community's true cohesiveness.
Beyond education, Fair Day offers entertainment, food, and camaraderie in an inclusive environment where straight families with children mix with all aspects of the queer community, creating hope for a more accepting future. Have you experienced similar divisions within communities fighting for inclusion? Contact us at fullygrownhomospodcast@gmail.com or on our socials to share your thoughts.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
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With Dave and Matt On today'sshow, we're going to do a bit of
(01:02):
a wrap-up of our Mardi Grasseason, Dave, aren't we?
We are indeed, matt, so we willtalk a little bit about that in
a second.
However, we've been a bitabsent for a little while now
because we've been busy busyboys.
Dave, what have we been doing?
What have you been?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
doing Well.
I've been mainly concentratingon my renovations.
Matt, you know it's taken overmy sort of like my daily
schedule at the moment because Ihave to get it sorted and back
on the market.
You know, pretty ASAP, yep, mystress levels have obviously
increased tenfold.
So you know you've been theresupporting me for that.
So I'm grateful for that.
You know, in every way.
And everybody else has been outthere helping, you know,
supporting me in my down moments, yep, and you yourself have
(01:41):
been busy, busy boy too.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I've been busy.
I've started a new role as well, so it's been very full on in
the training and developmentsort of system.
Yeah, that sort of categorysort of, and it's been very full
on.
It's learning a lot of contentthat I have no fucking clue what
I'm doing.
I know how to train and developno problem at all.
(02:04):
No fucking clue what I'm doing.
I know how to train and developno problem at all.
But the content of what I'mdeveloping and training on was
just completely a new world forme.
So when we say support, yeah,to say that my friends Dave
especially, and my friends haveactually been there as a support
, because I've had a few dayswhere I've definitely Questioned
, spiralled hard.
(02:24):
So support as always, yeah,lean on your friends.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
But it's easy, though , matt, to be hard on yourself,
especially in a new role,because your expectations are to
give your best.
Oh yeah, and you do.
It's a natural thing, and youhave got the capability, and we
know that.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
You're down four years.
My self-evaluation tools aresomewhat askew and I think
perfection is attainable withinminutes.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Nothing is perfect, it's really not, it's really,
really not.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
So you do have to be a bit easy on yourself at times,
because it's not usually thepeople that you they're the
outside people that sort of aresaying hurry up and get this
done.
It's you, it's you and youalone, yeah, yeah.
So it's definitely been a steeplearning curve, but, yeah, it's
been great and I've had acouple of wins last week, which
(03:13):
has been sensational.
So it's definitely been a turnaround the corner and I've sort
of sat there and I rememberedsomething that one of my very
early bosses said said to me andhe said you don't need to know
everything, you just need toknow who does know.
And I sat there and I'm likeyou're an idiot you do know
everyone that knows everything,and you're just not asking them,
(03:36):
which is something that I usedto be really, really good at,
obviously you're referring toyourself in that myself.
yeah, yeah, yeah, like, yeah,and I'm thinking I, I am very
good at knowing who knows what,because I genuinely like people
and I'm genuinely interested inpeople.
So I want to find out what theyknow and what they do, and it's
not because I want to utilisetheir skills at a later time,
(03:59):
it's just because I genuinelylike it.
But then I've kind of forgottenthat I knew how to do that part
and learn people and um, soyeah, that's why this week's
been significantly look, movingforward, you'll be fine.
Yeah, you will be fine yeah, but, and with yourself like, yes,
it's been a super stressful timefor you, and understandably so
(04:20):
if you look at the size of thisproject you've taken on.
Yep, it's fucking enormous.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Look, look, there's headway.
I mean, I'm pretty much almoston the inside of the house now.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I've seen it for the first time.
Look, I've seen it intimately,obviously.
I've seen it before.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
you bought it and things like that, and you tried
to get your head around what Iwas doing.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I kind of went what the fuck?
And then I seen it about threeweeks ago, four weeks ago maybe,
just in its raw shell, still Inits raw shell, and it was just
like, yep, I kind of get whereyou're going.
And then I seen it yesterdayfor the first time in three,
four weeks and I went, holy fuck, it's just going to be the most
(04:59):
spectacular place.
So again, you need to be proudof yourself.
Oh look.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I am, you need to give yourself some time.
Yeah, I know, but it's hard whenyou're living in a property and
you renovate at the same time,because you know you don't get a
break from it.
You, you put that expert, likeyou said.
You know, you put a lot ofpressure on yourself to achieve
and obviously my builders beingso efficient the way they are.
When they're there, they justdon't stop.
And then I have to play catchup.
And then when they do multiplethings together in one day, and
(05:24):
then I've got to be the onethat's got to paint and do all
the other bits for them to dothe next stage, it becomes
overwhelming me because I mean,we're painting, you don't just
do one layer, it's like three,four layers in some cases,
depending on what.
What you're painting.
I suppose you know I mean, yeah, and then when they come along
and then have to redo thingsover the top of the paintwork
and you think, fuck, I've justgot to fucking, do I've?
got to really fucking paintagain, yeah, and it's not their
(05:45):
fault, it's just, obviously, youknow, some things happen during
the plastering stages where, ifthey plaster over existing
painted bubbles and stuff likethat, so yeah, yeah, but then
we're diverting off.
But look, it's amazing.
It looks amazing.
I mean I'll be happy when thefront's done.
Yeah, so I'm going with a frontrender and weatherboard effect,
so it's going to be the veryhampton style.
Look from the outside.
You don't know what.
It's all white.
(06:06):
It's going to be spectacular.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, so I'm looking forward to it.
You know I can't.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I can't wait till it's all finished, but fuck, am
I going to give myself a breakafterwards you're definitely
going to give yourself a break.
I am, because normally I jumpstraight into the next one,
don't I?
You know, buy and sell at thesame time.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
That's what you've been doing, but you're not going
to.
I'm forcing you to have a break.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I have to.
I mean, I've got a few healthissues as well.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I love my eye and stuff, so yes, I'm, I'm actually
gonna hold you down and tie youand say you're not yay, daddy,
hold me down you're not gonnaget access to your bank accounts
, I'm gonna go on the shoppingspree.
I'm gonna restrain you and holdyou down.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Uh, hold down and restrain you'll end up buying an
SOP from me, won't you?
Yeah, I will, Dave.
I've got a great investmentproperty for you.
Just so here.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
You're going to buy arrows and re-.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I don't think I was going to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
No, we'll buy something.
We'll buy something better thanthat, yeah, and we'll just
completely gut it and rebuild itfrom the inside out yeah.
Oh God.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Okay, you don't have the money for that.
No, I don't.
I wonder if we could get ShereeBarber on board.
Renovation for profit, sopstyle you could do a new show.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Couldn't you A new?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
show Get your own line.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Hang on For people that don't know what an SOP is.
Dave, what's that?
It's a sex on premises.
Yeah, it's basically a sauna,what we we call church.
Um, so, yeah, um, where you'regonna get fucking laid.
Yeah, um, which has been acouple of weeks for me.
Um, getting itchy, longer forme, longer for him.
Yeah, but I thought I didn'twant to go and do it midweek
this week when I might havepotentially had an opportunity
(07:35):
on a wednesday night orsomething like that, because I
thought we got the um.
We got our, our sexual healthclinic not annual, our regular
sexual health clinic on OnWednesday.
No, on Monday coming.
Oh, monday, yes, sorry, yeah,so I thought I don't want to go
and get infested before I go andget checked.
No, I'll wait till after, buton Wednesday we've got the club
anyway.
Yeah, I know, but I could havealways called in sick for the
(07:55):
club and gone and got dicked.
How?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
rude, I could have.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That's.
I could have subbed in and went.
Hey, you know what, we'regetting a bit late anyway.
So, all right, let's get intoour Mardi Gras season.
Yep, All right.
What was our Mardi Gras seasonlike?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Very, very sparse, Very sparse Now that's not like
us.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Look the last few years, especially since I've
been single or year and a halfor whatever it's been, I don't
know anymore Two years Coming,year and a half or whatever it's
been, I don't even know anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Two years Coming up to three.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I'm getting confused.
No, you've been here over twoyears, mate.
Okay, alright, cool.
Well, anyway, however long it'sbeen since we've known each
other, our Mardi Gras season'sbeen quite the full on event,
alright.
So where are you looking?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Dave, I'm just looking at my nail.
I've got paint in it.
Look at me, I'm talking tosomebody.
I've just got paint in my nail.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Stop getting distracted because you won't be
able to listen to me.
My nails are painted white,yeah, I know, no doubt your
nails are painted, you, princess.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Not painted with that paint.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah.
So we See, and now I've lost mytrain of thought Talking about
have Mardi Gras.
Yeah, we basically haven't gone.
We didn't do anything, apartfrom one thing.
Now I make absolute all effortsto go to this event every year
because I think it's the bestevent on the Mardi Gras calendar
(09:16):
.
And that is I think it's thebest event on the Mardi Gras
calendar.
I just said I did.
I didn't say everyone thinks itis, but I personally think
it's's my favourite.
Well, it's my favourite, notthe best.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
It's a good one to go to.
Yeah, it's Fair Day.
That's the style of it all.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And I love Fair Day for what it brings to the
community.
Yep Right Now.
It's usually a very inclusiveday.
Everyone gets together,everyone's there to have fun, to
(09:52):
have a picnic, to enjoy the day, the whole thing from woe to go
.
We went this year, couldn't golast year because of the
asbestos problems.
Yeah they cancelled it last yearbecause there was like asbestos
bark everywhere around theparks that they were held in, so
they cancelled it last minute.
So to say I was hankering forit this year was an
understatement.
Yep, now, just before Fair Day,what happened, dave?
Where were we supposed to go onthe Saturday?
(10:12):
So we were supposed to on theFair Day.
I'm going to give you a quickrundown of what was supposed to
happen on Fair Day Day.
Right, we were supposed to pickour friends up from Plumpton.
Oh, yes, sorry, yes, and wewere supposed to go off to fair.
They enjoy the day into theevening, however long we were
there for.
Come home, chill, relax.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
That wasn't the case.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
The night before we were actually going to Newtown.
For those that aren't inAustralia, newtown is a suburb
within Sydney.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, it's a really cool suburb.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's a really cool suburb.
It's a very, very cool suburb.
It's very multicultural, it'svery gay-friendly, yep.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It's just a cool place to be.
It's got a really good theatrethere which is like the Anmore
Theatre, yep, which has got someof the best shows.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It's a 1930s theatre isn't it?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, but they've maintained it.
It's if you get to see a bandthere, you get to see the band
there, right, and you get tofeel every single bit.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
You don't need to be on the floor, you can be seated
and you still get that you stillget the feel, you get the vibe.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
It's very like.
It's a.
I think it's about two thousandseats.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I think it's about three thousand altogether.
Oh, I don't know.
Whatever it is, it's not.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
It's not like it's not super big it's not an 80 000
stadium or something like that,no, so it's just quite a small
intimate.
It's got good acoustics inthere, fucking great, especially
for the band that we've seen,which was omd right which is
orchestral manoeuvres in thedark right, very famous 80s
group yes that that band and youdidn't know them all, did you?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I mean, it was one of my favorite bands growing up in
the 80s.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I knew a couple of their songs, yeah, right, um,
but I liked their sound.
But then when we were therelistening I found I knew more of
their songs than I actuallyknew.
I knew right, which was quitegood, but even the songs they
didn't know, I really enjoyed it.
Like these guys were not youngguys anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I mean, they're older than us.
They're like 10 years olderthan us, so they're in their 60s
, but they still were rocking.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
But they were rocking and they were having a ball and
we were having a ball in turn.
It was a great thing.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And the demographic, however, hang on.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
However, when was that concert?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
according to you.
Well, it was Saturday, whichwas the day before Fair Day,
fair Day, so this is whathappened, looseners.
So we, we went into new town.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
We had a great day.
We went in, we had a beer umpub had some really nice pizza
at um ggs in new town.
If you, if you are from sydneyor if you're traveling to sydney
, go to ggs in new town.
It's a vegan um restaurant butthey have the best vegan pizza
they're all made fresh andthey're all so different in
terms of you know just delicious.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
They're not.
They're not manufactured.
They're all no different interms of yeah, so grilled, just
delicious.
They're not manufactured,they're all no, no.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It's delicious, right , but not sponsored,
unfortunately.
But if they want to throw us apizza, we'll love it.
But all seven but went toGigi's.
Had a bit of a wander aroundNewtown.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And then we were meant to go to the show at 7
o'clock.
We went to the show.
We lined up as we do outside,got to the front scanned our
tickets.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I had the tickets on my phone, didn't I?
Because?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
they booked this right, because normally I don't
organize all these things.
You normally organize all themusic, yeah, yeah.
So I had control over this oneand of course you know I had
notification that day said yes,you know the, you know the show
starting, you know welcome andeverything, blah, blah, blah.
I just scanned it and didn'tcheck it.
So went to check in.
Didn't check.
Okay, went to check in blah,blah, blah and no, it wouldn't
scan.
The guy said it wouldn't scan.
(13:30):
So I said, okay, check theother one.
No, he said I'm going to sendyou to the box office because
there might be a problem withthe ticket you might need to get
, like paper tickets.
Walked over to the office,showed her the phone, she had a
look and then she had anotherlook and then she had another
look and then she looked at usand she goes it's tomorrow, it's
tomorrow night, ie Friday night.
(13:50):
So what did we do, matt?
So what?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
we ended up doing was wandering around Newtown.
We made the most of a night.
We went down to the Imperial,which was epic.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Which we watched a really cool drag show.
Right, I had a couple of drinks.
It's very weird in there.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
It's very different.
Now it's a different vibe.
It's been taken over by a verydifferent, so there's lots of
like small little areas upstairslike eateries, yeah, where it
used to be really cool bars andsort of like.
Like the imperial was alwayskind of like the main bar.
That was where priscillapriscilla, queen of the desert,
was filmed, was filmed yeah,yeah, it was that bar.
And then there was sort of abar downstairs and then a bit of
a bar upstairs, right, but notlike the bar upstairs where you
(14:29):
cruise your cocktail lounge typething.
Now, what it is upstairs isactually about 15 different
disjointed rooms and it's just abig pizzeria, basically a big
pizza place.
Right, it still had a good vibe.
It still had a good vibe.
We had a ball, but it wasnotably full of hens and people
(14:50):
out there celebrating hensnights and whatever it is
parties and all that kind ofstuff.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
It's lost that sort of main vibe.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, look, and there was a lot of the queer
community there still and thatwas great to see.
Good eye candy, great eye candy, candy, great eye candy, very
great eye candy.
But then when we left theImperial, we walked out.
We walked out and there was aguy there with two schnauzers
talking to another guy yeah,talking to another guy, just on
the pedestrian crossing.
Yep, now I've got Chanel, mylittle mini schnauzer, and I've
(15:19):
got Blondie, obviously, my toypoodle.
But whenever I see a snauzer Ican't help but stop and give him
a pat and stuff like that.
And there were brothers with me, yeah, two brothers, right, and
um, I was giving them a pat andchatting to the owner a little
bit and before you know it,fucking 45 minutes later we've
discussed fucking world peaceand come up with solutions for
everything, um, but he's soengaging his name daniel, daniel
(15:42):
, yeah he actually um told us.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
He was a very good looking guy, wasn't he?
Yeah?
Yeah, definitely wanted to takehim home.
But um married straight guy,yeah, supposedly yeah got a kid,
he.
But he thinks he said heenjoyed going to the emerald
because he enjoyed the vibe, hefelt safe, he felt he was really
good obviously since he's takenover.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Sorry imperial.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So since he's been taken over, he said he's, he's
lost that real.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
It's lost its queerness.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah and he sort of Again.
That's standard for a lot ofpeople in the straight community
.
They like going to gay bars andthey feel safe and they enjoy
the atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah well, it's just the atmosphere and what it
should be.
It's just fun and there'sno-one sitting there looking to
pick a fight with you oranything like that for looking
at your business.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
We've seen this happen on Oxford Street.
We've seen a lot of straightpeople go to the gay bars there.
Haven't we?
Yeah, we have.
You know what I mean?
We have?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
But we chatted with him for a good 45 minutes.
He told us about another coupleof hidden gems in Newtown, and
then he walked off with us,didn't he In our minds?
He walked off, or we walkedhome with him and he put the
(16:46):
schnauzers fucking high heaven.
Um, no, that's not what I was,just our fantasy.
That's just just what happenedin our brains.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Um, and then so we, we wandered around a bit more,
but he took us to because he wascarrying walking one.
He said I'll show you some coolplaces to go to boys.
Yeah, and he mentioned what wasit.
I can't remember.
It was a very.
It was a very, not strange, itwas a very, it's cool.
It's a very, not strange, itwas a very it's cool.
It's a very cool bar.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, it's very cool and you, basically you walk down
a set of stairs.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Is it the?
I can't remember what it wascalled.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
It's a weird name anyway, but it was cool.
It was just one room, wasn't it?
It was a hidden bar orsomething like that.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
it was called yeah, but the atmosphere when you walk
in was very bougie, yeah, verymoody, but you got into like
dark and dim but it was likereally quite.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, it reminded me a bit of like a speakeasy kind
of bar, like one of those reallycool sort of 1970s sort of art
deco-y style, just really cool.
You could imagine that they'rewith like a singer and a sort of
jazz.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It wasn't opulent, but it was just very classy
looking, wasn't it, you know?
I mean, it was very moody.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
It was moody and it was very cool, but um so you
went through curtains and allthis kind of stuff literally
yeah, glory holes were the otherside.
No, they went, unfortunatelybut yeah, otherwise it would
have stayed a lot longer butthey have like acts of stuff,
magician acts, but yeah theyhave different acts and
different things there, but Ican't remember the name.
No, but for the life of me.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
And I won't.
We went somewhere else afterthat, didn't we?
We checked out somewhere elsebefore we went home.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I don't know.
Yeah, we had a kebab, you had akebab.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
We checked out those two guys that we were arguing
that they came in and made up.
Yeah, it was quite cute.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, so we ended up having a really good night in
Newtown, by the way, regardlessof the concert concert, yeah.
But then the next morning wewoke up, we went sort of picked
up our friends Dick and Fanny,yep, um right, and we basically
went off to fair day with themand, um, we were meeting, we met
another friend yeah.
(18:35):
Sammy, let's call her Sammy.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, her name is Sammy, so we're gonna call her
Sammy because we can't.
She's fine, she did say whatshe wanted to be called yeah, I
can't remember.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
it was Lolita or something like that.
I can't remember, but we'll askher anyway Because she's named
Sammy now.
All right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
She knows who we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, we met up with her andsort of seen a few other friends
.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And our friend Ray.
Yeah, yeah, he came down fromthe Central Coast because he's
to his mum's place on thecentral coast.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
So I met up with everyone, did a bit of a wander
around Fairday and we got therefor about half past ten, so it
already started about eighto'clock, hadn't it.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
No, it doesn't start till ten.
I think we got there about11.30.
Oh, 11.30, that's right.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, so we got there we have friends that have on
the Central Coast, yep Best.
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Have a look at their thing.
Yeah, tinker Co, it's just likeit's awesome, go if you've got
puppies.
Even if you don't have puppies,some of their neckerchiefs look
really good on humans.
And their friend Cherie fewthings she does, the lead tag.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Sacks yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Zoomies Dogs.
Yeah, Zoomies Dogs.
I think it is Okay.
Yeah, and as well, and she doesthe lead tags.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
now, she's very creative as well, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
The lead sleeves.
They're cold, right, like I'vegot.
I bought a couple.
One says for Blondie, it saysdon't pat, god, she does right.
And Chanel.
I got one that says and itdoesn't say the actual word, but
it says I bark at cunts, right,but it's got C, dash, dash, t's
(20:32):
.
So you know what it is.
It's like, basically, I bark atcunts and she does so.
It's really fitting and they'rereally cute.
But yeah, that was one of themany, many stalls we visited at
a fair day, absolutely.
Now to say we had someconversations while we were
there.
That's a lot of what we didbecause we conversed with a lot
of different people.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I mean there's a lot of things that we've already
covered in previous podcasts.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, yeah, we weren't talking too much in
depth.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
But we learned a lot during that day, didn't we?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Fair day was extremely informational right
Now.
They've always got a lot ofeducation on hand there at Fair
Day, right.
So we're going to call outprobably a couple of our key
things that we think areactually really good and
something that we didn't know,right we didn't know right.
So, like our first one, we gotto go.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It was the very first stand we went to, wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
It was literally very first stand we went to, wasn't
it?
It was literally the firststand we walked in, because we
walked in, turned left and bam,it was there, and so they were
handing out little bags withevery.
Can I tell you, I must haveabout fucking 20 fans Wristbands
I've got fans, I've gotwristbands.
Condoms I've got stress balls,I've got condoms, I've got
freaking everything.
(21:50):
But this stand was the firstone we stumbled upon and it was
supported by.
Is it HIV?
It is supported by.
Positive Life NSW is the actualgroup and their website is
positivelifeorgau.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Definitely definitely check it out.
Check it out because you'llfind so much information we're
going to give you a really,really brief account of what
they do, so we were introducedto the, the guy called andrew
andrew heslop, and he's thesenior health promotion and peer
navigator officer as part ofthat group.
Now andrew himself has uh, youknow, has has basically got
(22:31):
cancer, or he's had cancer,diagnosed with cancer, and what
he was explained to us was analcancer and they were trying to
install people.
Um, how much anal cancer is onthe rise?
I've never heard of anal cancer.
I've heard of it but it's not.
Looking at statistics, it's nota big cancer but it's on the
rise.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I'd heard of bowel cancer.
Yeah Right, these are twodifferent things.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
But he was saying that the anal cancer is now on
the rise to men and women, yep,especially in the younger
demographic of people, yep, andhe had like a mock-up.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
He had a mannequin, like you do when you go to a
first aid course, right, andthey've got the full-body
mannequin where you've got toperform your CPR and all that
kind of stuff.
So they had a butt basicallywith the anal cavity and stuff
like that and they said do youwant to put your finger inside?
Put your finger in and see whatanal cancer feels like yeah.
So I kind of I'm a fucking child.
All right, I am a child.
(23:32):
I sat there and I'm gigglingand I'm gone.
Nah, not for me, okay, I'm notfingering this guy's asshole in
the middle of a park.
All right, look, if it was areal guy and he had a nice hairy
hole, I'd fucking stick mywhole hand in there.
That's not an issue for me.
No, I wouldn't.
I'm not a fisting fan.
But have you got fans?
I haven't got fans.
(23:53):
Probably got fans about fisting.
But yeah, I'm not about to sitthere and stick my finger in
somebody's hole.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
He lubed me up, didn't he he?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
So he lubed me up, didn't he?
He lubed, he put the glove onDave.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
He made me do everything properly.
You know what I mean.
Put the lube on, put the lubeon, and then I had to put my
index finger into this.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I wish I was going to , and I don't know why I didn't.
I wish I had have at leastrecorded the sound, because the
sounds Dave was making when hewas actually fingering this hole
it was like oh, oh oh.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Look, there's things that I know and I felt myself
you know what I mean before.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
But Dave was explaining it as he was going
through the process.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So basically what they'd done is they'd put
multiple different elements thatare common within the rectum,
if that makes sense, yeah.
So they put a prostate in thereso you got to feel what the
prostate felt like and you knowthey make you move your finger
around so you can feel what itfeels like properly, and stuff
like that.
They put some hemorrhoids inthere, Hemorrhoids yeah.
(25:00):
So you got to feel what theyfelt like as well.
I've had both of them, so Iknow exactly what they're like.
Yeah yeah, yeah.
But then he turned around, saidlook, you know you got to put
it a little bit further up.
And he said look, move yourfinger to the left.
The day bosses watch, yeah.
And as I moved my finger, Icould feel this like like a
ridge.
And he said, like, what are youfeeling?
I said like well, I feel theridge, he goes.
Well, put your finger furtherup.
(25:21):
So put my finger further up andit fell into like a hole.
So the only way I can describeit it was like a donut, a small
donut.
So what I was feeling on theoutside was the circumference of
the donut, if that makes sense,the actual round part of it.
And then my finger was goinginto the hole and that is
classic indication of analcancer.
So, yeah, so for me that waslike like holy shit, that was
(25:44):
like very informative.
But he was just like wow, itwas great.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
And look and um, what's his name again, andrew's
knowledge on said virus.
Now, like I said, he's beendiagnosed with it.
There's two different types.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
He said wasn't there 16 and 18 or something.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
So the HPV virus is basically the cause.
The cause and there's likedifferent markers throughout the
HPV virus Categories isn'tthere that you have?
And there's so many of them.
And again, he was an expert, hewas fucking sensational and we
do want to get guests on, butI'm still struggling with his
tech part of it.
(26:18):
But yeah, I will test it.
I will actually test it laterthis week with Dave and see if I
can work out if he phones in,if I can still record via the
phone.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, but we'll work it out so we can actually get
some of these people on to chatabout it properly, because it's
very awkward getting people hereright.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Because you know you live.
You know Well, I live at WoopWoop and everybody else lives in
Sydney.
Yeah, but yeah, everyone elselives in the city.
So if I can get them by thetime, but we've also got to try
and organise a time and a daythat suits everybody.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Suits everyone as well, and it's hard yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
But look, his information was sensational.
Now what Dave's just explainedto you, with going out although
I definitely want everyone goingout sticking their fingers up
their ass because it feels good,but I want you I don't want you
going out there and stickingyour finger in and checking and
thinking, oh shit, I've gotcancer.
(27:05):
What you do need to do, though,is be aware and go to
positivelifeorgau and find out.
Do some research and find outwhere you some research right
and find out where you can gettested for this.
Find out what, because it's onthe rise, and he said that early
detection was the key for thisparticular type of anal cancer.
(27:28):
Yep, so early detection and itcan pretty much be fixed.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
And they're based in Sydney as well.
They're based in Surrey Hills,aren't they?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
But no doubt there'll be other links that we can take
you to look.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I mean, that was just like the start of the actual
day, wasn't?
It was the start of the day, soand look, and it just got you
know more and more sort of likeinformation given to us, and we
were having chats with everybody?
Weren't we as many as we could?
I mean, there's stuff, stuffthat we knew about, that we
didn't need to sort of like know, but we still had the time and
courtesy to talk to them as wellwell, because the thing is that
(28:00):
some things I find reallyinteresting.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, right now, like I stopped at a stand which was
um swap, which is the sexworkers outreach program,
basically um, and I'm not aboutto go into sex work at any time,
but there's a lot of um stigmaaround sex work and stuff like
that.
Yeah, and I don't just femalesex worker at any time, but
there's a lot of stigma aroundsex work and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Is this female sex worker or male Sex worker?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, of all kinds.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So the thing is that it's an industry that's been
thriving since before time.
Exactly, it's aboutpre-Victorian times.
Well, we all have itches.
We all need them scratched.
Yep Right.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But it's still frowned upon in some
circumstances and I just don'tget it right.
They provide the service andthey're doing people justice by
doing that, you know yeah, soyou bet they are.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
There's like with sex work there's so many different
people that they service, sothey can.
Whether it be people that arefeeling alone, um, people with
private escorts, whether it's inthe massage, whether it's
stripping and dancing, they areall falling through the um the
category of sex workers.
Whether people are having sexfor food, sex for drugs, sex for
(29:05):
a place to stay, um, like Isaid.
Whether it's street based, likeprivate, whatever like there's,
there's so many differentcategories of sex worker, um, so
, and and these guys were againa great um information source,
basically, and they have awebsite.
(29:26):
Well, actually, I think it'smore social media and it's just
swop new south wales, right, soswop new south wales, right.
And New South Wales, right, soSWOP New South Wales, right, and
that's their Twitter, theirInstagram and on Facebook, their
Sex Workers Outreach Project,right, so check out their
information as well, if it'ssomething that you think you can
(29:48):
actually benefit from, becauseI had a chat with the two people
that were there, right, and Idon't want to actually assign
them any genders, because Ibelieve that one of them was
transgender, but again, I didn't.
I probably did ask, because Ido ask what is your pronouns,
what are your gender, what'syour gender Usually, especially
(30:10):
if I'm uncertain, but I don'twant to assign them a pronoun or
a gender on our show because,again, I can't remember because
that was about four weeks agonow, I feel, and my brain
doesn't retain the informationfor more than five minutes
generally, and I didn't take anynotes that day at all, and he's
not lying.
No, I'm not lying.
My brain does not fuckingretain any information.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
You can't multitask.
He's the only man I know cannotmultitask.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Every man can't multitask.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yes, he can.
Gay men can multitask.
No, they can't.
That's a lie.
That's a lie.
You need to go on amultitasking course.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
But yeah, I don't think I couldn't task multis
enough to task it.
So there were a couple of thestands we visited.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
There was one that I went to with Fanny Well, and so
there were a couple of thestands we visited.
There was one that I went towith Fanny Well I haven't got
the information here because itwas in my bag and my bag's at my
house, yep and it was aboutorgan donations and I think it's
just like standard New SouthWales or Australia-wide organ
donations and they're explainingbasically they are still
(31:14):
lacking organ donations.
So the reason being is becausethere was such a precedence on
who could donate blood andorgans, yep, in the past, with
people with mad cow disease, hivand all this stuff, blah, blah,
blah.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
They even recall that if you were gay, you couldn't
donate.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
No, exactly no.
But it's all changed.
Everything's changed nowbecause they realize that's
bullshit.
We've been fed so much bullshitin the past, you know I mean.
So now they've realized, yes,you know, everybody's free to do
this.
I mean, obviously there will bepeople that have got certain
ailments, like I've got diabetes, so maybe my blood isn't sort
of like good enough for them touse.
Yeah, there might be otherthings, I guess still donate my
organs and stuff, like she said.
(31:51):
And she said the thing is notlately.
You're full bastard, you fallapart um he's definitely
catching on me, um but um.
But like she said, you know,normally you could put on your
driver's license, you know, butthat's been removed now.
So I think it's just a case.
I think she said that's beenremoved as in you know, or
people don't know that you canactually submit that.
I'll have to check theinformation.
Don't quote me on that becauseI might just be getting it all
(32:13):
wrong.
But in generalization she wasjust saying that people these
days still are not willing todonate organs because they don't
know enough about it or theyhave been told in the past that
they're not eligible or theycan't for some reason.
Now she said, look, the bestthing to do is just put it down
as yes, I mean, you can choosewhich organs you do want to do
because, like I know there'severything.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah know there's some people that don't want
their eyes taken.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Some people have.
I mean, at the end of the day,it's a body.
When you're dead, you're dead.
Your soul still goes offwherever it goes, but your body
is there to help, hopefully,other people.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah.
So look, I've put down on mylist that I want my penis
donated.
What for medical science?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Or just as a tribute to your legacy.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
No, can you imagine the poor bastard that got my
dick right.
They want a mileage log with itand I don't even know if I
could provide that.
They want to know where it'sbeen, how it's been used.
Could you imagine if it went toyour brother?
He'd be very disappointed.
He'd never touch it again, ormaybe he might.
(33:18):
No, okay, no and no and no, notgoing there at all.
But if my dick was donated tosomebody and it had to come with
like a come, well, um, if ithad to like literally um, come
with a where it's been, whatit's done, I couldn't provide
that.
What you couldn't provide thetag no, like the where it's been
list.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
I'm sure it would have.
Like a tree, has little ringson it.
It tells you where and when andwhat time of year you were
there.
Mine should be significantlybigger if it has rings on it you
probably find your penis isgetting bigger because it's
growing which it is.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Maybe every year you've got a different ring
around it, but organ donor go,and that's not cock rings either
if it is on your license, I'mpretty sure it's on your new
south wales.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, I can't remember.
I mean, I mean I'm pretty sure,but mine's on there, but I'm
pretty sure she said that it'sbeen removed or there's.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I don't know check it out there's changes to please
please, please.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
If you are uncertain then and you want to donate your
organs, then please do donateyour organs.
There's so many people and it'slike I would say to her right,
people need.
There will be one opportunityin your life maybe, or a family
member or yourself, that isdesperate to have that, and you
know you've always said no, I'mnever going to donate, donate,
donate, and then your life ischanged by someone else donating
.
Yeah, and you know the decentthing is like.
(34:30):
You know, at the end of the daywe're just a vessel.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, and you know it doesn't matter, somebody can go
in the ground, does it getburnt?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
so why waste it?
Why waste?
I don't care you what I'mgetting cooked, yeah, but I mean
, if you can take as much out ofyou beforehand that can be used
to help could you imagine?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
how many?
People that you could save yeah, correct, absolutely, and I'm,
I'm, I'm down for that.
That's what I said.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Look, I literally would say I mean your eyes are
the beautiful and other people,people.
Yeah, I know Well, imagine ifthey actually.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Once I get my lenses in, oh wow, then it'll be like,
wow, matt has got beautiful eyes.
I do have pretty eyes.
I've been told thissignificantly.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
And if they don't have my eyelashes, that'd be
amazing.
Yeah, but I think all yourfamily have got beautiful eyes.
Yeah, they do.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
We're really lucky.
We definitely got eyes thereand that obviously contributed
to it as well.
You've got a beautiful hearttoo.
Yeah, sometimes, yeah sometimesI'm a cunt, but it's a
different story.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
But yeah, um, all, right now, okay before.
No, we visited quite a lot ofstandards.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Basically, let's jump into this, let's just jump into
this last one and then I'mgoing to give you what our
visitors that we took along withus.
I discussed what their thoughtswere as an overarching.
But let's just discuss thislast one, dave, because this is
really important and not spokenenough in the queer community.
(35:48):
Look, it's spoken about dailyfrom some perspectives and it
shouldn't happen in the world atall, but it's very rarely
spoken about in the queercommunity, and that is domestic
violence.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yep, yep, yep, and there's so many different forms
and so many different varietieswithin that subgroup.
Now, the two guys I spoke to, Ican't remember what their names
are, but I've got a link totheir website because they're
fully self-funded.
Sorry, I'm walking away fromthe microphone.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
So their website again dvafoundationorg right and
they are self-funded.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, the two guys that set it up very passionate
about what they do.
They know everything about it.
They've experienced domesticviolence themselves and I think
people that have actually hadthat are the best people to give
advice to.
But saying that, I thinkeverybody at some point in their
life will either have had it orexperience it or know someone
(36:55):
that has experienced it.
And it's not just the gaycommunity.
It happens obviously everywhere, but the LGBTQ community
doesn't get enough.
What's it called exposure?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
It's almost taboo, because if a man hits another
man and I'm using domesticviolence in its simplest form
when I say hits, yep, all right,because there's so much more,
and dave's going to duck intothat because he's got all the
pamphlets right but if I say aman hits another man and we,
(37:29):
there's a stigma about going tothe police because we think,
well, he's a man, he's hit meand I'm a man, so the police are
going to look at me and go.
So what?
Just a couple of guys hittingeach other.
Right, and it's not that youdon't have to put up with
domestic violence.
Right, there is help out therefor you.
Um, the police are a source ofhelp.
Um, hopefully, um, and ifyou're in a queer relationship,
(37:55):
there, there will be an LGBTQpolice officer liaison at your
police station, because therewas a police officer that was
abused wasn't there in thecourtrooms apparently?
Yeah, yeah, and I think that's alot of why they actually sort
of brought this about wasbecause this police officer had
been abused, yep, and thecourtroom looked at him and
(38:15):
laughed because he was a big,burly guy and he was a police
officer.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
And a police officer.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
So why would?
And he was so hesitant inreporting because he's seen the
systems.
But he did report and so it wasactually there right, and so
there'll be changes that happen.
So I mean it does happen in ourcommunity, sadly.
It's not something to beashamed of.
If you're on the receiving endof domestic violence, violence,
(38:41):
report it.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Well it's got a credit On one of the pamphlets
they've got.
It's got creating positivechange starts with you, and it
says more than 60% of LGBTQpeople will experience violence
or abuse with an intimatepartner or family member in
their lifetime.
And again, the family member isso important.
There's so much abuse that'shappened in the past and still
happening, you know what I meanwithin members of people of the
(39:03):
family that abuse more friendsof families.
And then it's got 72% of theLGBTQ community who experienced
domestic family violence did notreport any of the abuse at all,
and that's standard.
Again, yeah, you know it's that.
It's stupid stats.
1.7% of LGBTQ people reportedtheir abuse to their employers.
(39:23):
So still very low.
And it happens in the workplaceas well.
You think about it, you know.
I know things are changing, butthey're still very, very far?
Yeah, of course there's still somuch improvement here.
Yeah, you know, still very,very fast.
Still so much improvement here.
Yeah, you know, um, and thenfinally it's got 2.3 percent of
lgb people, uh, reported theirabuse to a domestic and family
violence service.
Yeah, so, and there areservices out there, you know, I
(39:46):
mean there are some services outthere.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
They got near listed on there.
What I would say is go to theirwebsite, which is, like I said
before, dvafoundationorg, right,but I would basically do that.
Now there is actually aDomestic Violence Awareness Day
and that happens on the 28th ofMay, right?
So if you go todvafoundationorg, you can
(40:10):
actually find out a little bitmore about that Domestic
Violence Awareness Day.
Now these guys actually do arun of a series of courses that
you can actually self-pacedlearning online.
So if you want to actually learna little bit more about it, so,
not because you may not haveactually been in the situation,
but bystander toolkits arefantastic, right, there's a
(40:34):
bystander toolkit, right, andyou can do something about it,
because hopefully, you'll neverbe in this situation, right,
hopefully, but, but you need tobe as a bystander.
You can recognize that it isabuse.
You can respond um, it says how, how can you help?
Right, and then you can referto a suitable service.
(40:57):
So you might not be the personthat's being abused, but there's
three little steps.
So respond, recognise, respondand refer Three simple steps to
help somebody with it.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
And you might be saving your life or someone
else's life.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Now, not part of the queer community, this person
that I assisted, but there wassomebody in my not my living
space, but within my vicinitythat lives in the complex where
I was, and she was basicallypart of a domestic violence
situation.
So she reached out to you.
(41:35):
She reached out to me because Icould see that she was
struggling one day and I said toher you okay, um, because she
looked like she was about tobreak, and I said are you okay?
And she was like, no, this isthe situation.
I said look, do you want totalk?
And because I'm me, right, um,she opened up, right, and so I'm
a vault in that sense.
(41:56):
That's why I'm not giving anynames or anything like that,
nothing but, um, she opened up.
I insisted that she give me hernumber, right, and said that,
and I gave her mine and I saidlook, anything you want me to
look out for, right, anythingyou need, any moment of the day,
the night, text me.
(42:17):
I put her into my favorites sothat that way, if it was the
middle of the night and I'm onsleep mode, her number will come
through, right.
If she texted or rang, allright, um, I said I am at the
front of the building.
I can basically get the policehere asap.
All right, um, so I got herdetails.
(42:38):
She asked me that if I couldlook out with her the separate
former partner, him, becauseshe'd sort of separated from him
but he kept harassing andbasically threatening um.
I said all right, if I see hiscar, either here or in the
street anywhere, I'll just sendyou a quick text.
If you don't respond, I'll callthe police.
All right, she said that'd bereally good.
(42:59):
Thank you so much and all that.
So so it's just about lookingout.
Yeah, right, um, turns out abouta week and a half, two weeks
later I did see his car, so I'dsent her a message and 30
minutes later I didn't get aresponse and so I'd sent another
message, said just just lettingyou know I'm about to call the
police.
And then she responded prettymuch within seconds and said oh,
(43:23):
it's okay, we're back together.
Classic example.
Unfortunately, it was a week orso later and then she ended it
completely with him.
Thankfully, she had thefortitude to do that.
But I then had a bit of a chatwith her and said look, you
don't need that shit.
Like you know, you're abeautiful human from inside to
(43:46):
out, yep.
Like we don't need to put upwith crap.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Like this from people , and sometimes being on your
own is the best thing, becauseyou don't have to be submitted
to that sort of abuse.
And look, he needed to seekhelp as well.
But I didn't have arelationship with him, no right,
so I didn't.
He came across as very sort oflike nice, nice guy and all that
kind of stuff they always do,you know, I mean yeah yeah, so
look, I mean, like I said, thereare some red flags and some
(44:10):
green flags.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I'm not going to go through all of them, but some,
some of the red flags, like,they monitor and control where
you go, what you see, who youtalk to.
All right, that's never good.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
But you've got to understand that is Disregard
your boundaries.
Yeah, but you've got tounderstand that that is
something you probably aren'tseeing.
You know, it's just acontrolling method and that's
down to them.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
So look, I mean, if you see some of those flags,
they're inconsiderate and haveunpredictable moods, Right, all
right, now let's not use thatone as a red flag all the time,
because, no, I haveunpredictable moods, yeah but
you're not violent, but I'm notinconsiderate at all.
They invalidate your genderidentity or gender expression.
So, again, if you're trans ornon-binary and you're with a
(44:55):
partner that's identifying asmale and they're not actually
they're going trans, doesn'tmatter, all right, that's not
the person for you, yeah, allright, generally not the person
for anyone, but, no, um, theyneed to seek help and education,
right, but, um, they'redefinitely not the person for
you, right, and they often putyou down.
Do not stand for that shit.
All right, do not stand forthat, like there's plenty of
(45:17):
other people out there yeah, sothere's some people out there
that will.
You are free to have your ownfriendships.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
You don't see the red flags straight away.
I mean, they sputter you, theygive you all of what they need
and then, eventually, thecontrolling starts yeah I mean
narcissistic behavioral traitsis exactly that.
I've been through it.
I think you said you wentthrough once.
Yeah, um, and yeah, I mean,when you sort of open your eyes
and then look back at all theevidence that is submitted to
(45:44):
you by people that are tellingyou these things, then you think
what the fuck did I?
Why didn't I act on this?
Why didn't I see these things?
Speaker 1 (45:51):
yeah, you don't because you are so engrossed in
that person yeah, so anyway, we,anyway, we're going to wrap
this up there, but look on thisside, yeah On that part, yeah On
that one.
So remember that all thisinformation can go.
You can go to dvafoundationorg,right, and find out a ton more
information there.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
All right, and that was only a few stands that was a
couple, I mean they had so manystands to talk to dave loves a
chat.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
I do, as you all know .
All right, I don't mind a chateither guy.
Frankly, um, I was aware, um,throughout most of the day, that
we had some friends with us aswell, that I wanted them to
experience as much of fair dayas they possibly could.
Now, fair Day in itself isfundamentally.
(46:38):
There is a lot of informationstands, but there's a lot of
places to buy shit as well.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yeah, support the community.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
So you can actually go up and down.
It's like a giant big market,it is.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
And they sell not just LGBTQ stuff, it's
everything, everything.
It's like a market.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
If you wanted LGBT stuff.
There's a lot of small businessowners, like the girl from the
previous podcast.
Oh my God, I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
One of the knitted stuff, the one that does all the
knitted stuff?
Speaker 1 (47:06):
She was there.
I've got her name heresomewhere they Craft, that's
right, they Craft.
She was actually at Fair Dayand she was selling her
crocheted butt plugs and thingslike that.
There, she was actually at fairday and she was selling her,
her, um, crocheted butt plugsand things like that.
There, she does make animals.
They sorry, they were there,not she.
(47:27):
Sorry, I apologize, um, but Idon't mean to.
I didn't mean to misgender youthen.
Sorry, um, they were there andthey, um, were selling their
stuff.
So, and it was great, butthere's lots of things that you
can actually buy there.
However, I asked our friendsDick and Fanny, right, and Sammy
.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
And Sammy.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
And Ray, but I asked Dick and Sammy More so, yeah,
dick and Fanny more so whattheir overall vibe was on the
day, and dick's comment to mewas that it's a really cool vibe
.
It's really such a from anoutsider looking in, I can see
(48:01):
that there is some equalityright and there is some
community, he said.
However, what I'm failing tounderstand is that how, if you
want one community and you wantequality, how everything seems
to be so disjointed and so boxedin and from what I mean by
(48:21):
boxed in, or what he means byboxed in, was that the Bears
were with the Bears.
Yep, the Twinks were with theTwinks.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
The Muscle.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Boys were with the Muscle Boys.
The trans community were withthe trans community.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
The Fairies were with the Fairies, the twinks were
with the twinks, the muscle boyswith the muscle boys.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
the trans community.
We were with the fairies, withthe fairies, the fairies with
the fairies, like there was, etc.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Etc there was no real intermingling there was no
demographic cohesion.
Was there no?
Speaker 1 (48:42):
there was, there was, look, there was just, it was
very, very singular in every waypick a box and you fit there
and that's where you go, right?
Yeah, and we've known this inthe game.
We've seen this because we'repart of the community, so we
know that, like you know, if wewalk into Ark, for example,
we're not necessarily going tobe looked at and welcomed, right
(49:04):
, but I'm also at 53 years ofage, I don't really want to go
to Ark anymore.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Anyway, I wanted to go.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
But the thing is, it's just like there is certain
parts of the community thatreally judge you for being not
what you fit in.
You don't fit their tick in thebox.
And I didn't say did you notice?
He kind of went this is justreally obvious.
It's just different than what Ithought he said, because you
(49:32):
guys, all we hear in the mediaand from an external source is
equality, equality, equality,which he says, and like
diversity, and like let's allbecome one, he said, but you're
not even one within your owncommunity.
No, he said, and he likened itto racism, right of a degree.
(49:53):
He said, like he's Filipino,right, and he said, well, he's
fucking Aussie, right, he's notFilipino, but, to look at, he's
Filipino.
Yeah, and I said, but he sortof basically said look, it's
like this community doesn't workwell with this community as
such from a racism perspective.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
And that's interesting because he's not
part of the community.
So for him to see.
That emphasises what we alreadyknow.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Yeah, which what we already know is that boxers and
all that kind of stuff.
But look, that was like I said.
That was just a quick snapshotof how Fan love yeah.
Yeah, every one of them loved it, yeah, but it was, yeah, every
one of them loved it.
But it was just like a bit oflike, oh shit, and I think one
of the things at one of thestands we went to, he was kind
of blown away because there wasa self-test, a self-HIV test,
(50:42):
that they were handing outpamphlets and that and they
basically gave him some statsaround the people that were
using these tests and they saidthat I think about 80% of them
were actually married men thatslept with men.
And he said so gay?
And they said no, no, no, theydon't identify as gay, they just
(51:02):
sleep with men.
And he said but that makes themgay, right?
And it was like no, they'rejust men that sleep with men.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
That's how they identify, right?
He said like no, they're justmen that sleep with men.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
That's how they identify right, he said, and a
lot of them are using the HIVself-test because they don't
want to go to a doctor.
They definitely don't want togo to a family doctor or
anything like that.
So he was kind of blown away bythat stat.
And a lot of them come from outWest or, like you know, the
South West, which is sort of andand I said, jim, we'll have a
(51:31):
think about the demographic thatlives in the southwest and out
west.
Um dick, and he went, yeah, Isaid, look, a lot of them are
very much outwardly homophobic.
I said, but when we, when meand dave, have gone to church,
yeah, I said we see a lot ofpeople join us, Join us at
(51:51):
different stages and differentthings.
I said a lot of them are fromthose demographics.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
So, yeah.
There's no judgment on anybody.
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
You do what you want to do and please don't stop
doing me.
But yeah, I love a straight man, as Mitch is the next guy.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
Sometimes it can be quite a turn on, can't as well?
Fuck, yeah, especially a hothops husband, yeah, but yeah.
So apart from that, I mean thedemographics I found actually at
the actual event were acomplete mixture you had the
lgbt community supportingeverything.
Yeah, yeah, but there's a lotof straight families there with
their children and everythingelse.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
That which was great because that gives for a way
more accepting future.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Yeah, a fun day.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Because if people are thinking that this is life,
this is everyday life and Idon't want to use the word
normal because that's a stupidword but if this is everyday
life and how it should be lived,where everyone actually just
gets along and talks and hasgreat fun together, well then
fuck yeah, I'm for it.
Right?
So everyone, come to our events.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
They also had a lot of entertainment going on,
didn't?
They the entertainment wasgreat.
So the main stage.
We didn't stay later on becauseit goes on all night, doesn't
it?
It goes on way later.
So they got different areaswith music, DJs, DJs set up.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
They had people on stage doing reenactments of
musicals and stuff.
So there is a show that'splaying in Sydney at the moment,
titanic, which is a CelineDion-esque style musical, which
is a bit of a parody.
It's a parody, but it'sapparently sensational and we've
got to get tickets before itcloses.
If we get time, no, we're goingto make it time.
I don't give a fuck, we'remaking time.
All right.
It's like $75 a ticket.
(53:35):
They're cheap as shit.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yeah, I know, but what I'm saying is your dialogue
of time and your scheduling.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
I know we have lots on.
We're going to see a DollyParton show soon.
I've Coming up very soon.
Very exciting.
In the past few weeks we'vegone and seen Kylie.
That was awesome, wasn't it?
Oh, kylie was amazing, butwe'll delve into that later,
later another one, yeah, becauseotherwise this is going to be a
seven-hour podcast.
But yeah, and look, it was justlike they had food, they had
(54:04):
drinks, they had everythingthere.
It was organized spectacularlyright.
It was great.
The food I thought was actuallyquite reasonably priced.
For again, we're at a marketright, so you pay market prices.
Nobody actually complainedabout it, and the food that I
had was fucking sensational.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
It was slightly different to what we normally
have.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Yeah, it was fresh and it was clean and it was
absolutely delicious.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
They even had water stands there, didn't they?
They had big water bowls.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Yeah, water everywhere they had seating
everyone around.
Everywhere they were sponsoredby a big supermarket and this
supermarket was handing out icypoles.
It wasn't my favouritesupermarket, but anyway it was
the other shit one, coles, butanyway, all right.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
Only shit in your mind.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
Yeah, correct, but it was them.
But they did hand out free icypoles, so that was actually.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
That was a good and it was a warm day, wasn't it?
It was a very warm day.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yeah, there's a lot of hot guys there as well a lot
of very good looking men, umprobably some very beautiful
women as well, wasn't as manyspeedo clad men?
Speaker 2 (55:03):
that was years previously, yeah, but yeah, it's
still fun though wasn't it Imean yeah, um.
And finally, the funniest thingI saw there was that pissing
wall.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
Oh yeah, that was so cool.
It was very, very weird.
Look, it was just like aportable urinal right Urinal,
Urinal.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
We're never going to have this debate.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Because, I'm right, we discussed that last night,
I'm always right, but yeah, thisportable urinal.
Right, I'm right, we discussedthat last night, I'm always
right, but yeah, this portableurinal right.
I'm not going to correct you,god.
It was just like four bigplastic walls.
Were they plastic?
Were they Three plastic?
Yeah, I thought it was wood.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
No, no plastic.
Yeah, do you know?
Speaker 1 (55:43):
you get like a sheep enclosure where they put you in
there, yeah, and they had thefence around the outside of it.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
You could see through .
You could see through the fence.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
Some sit in there and go like I might proposition
myself up there a little bitlater, just at the top of the
hill, and look down at all theguys taking leeks and check out
all their cocks and then go yeah, you're that one, I want the
big one.
Speaker 2 (56:05):
I want that one Daddy , but it was a clever.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Men lining up at Portaloos does not make sense to
me.
These urinals should bestandard at any outdoor event.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
You're screened off, so you're not offending anybody.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
You're screened off, so you're not actually.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
You can see into it via the entrance, can't you?
Speaker 1 (56:26):
You can see the back of people.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
You can't see their dicks.
If you're close enough to theentrance then you'll see
everything.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Yeah, but they did have it screened for privacy.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
But again, if you were that shy, you'd wait and go
to a cubicle and do you knowwhat?
Most people, most guys, wouldjust get out of the car and
they'd go piss against a tree.
They don't give a flying fuck.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
They're that desperate they'd do it a great
solution to people pissing allover the ground at the park.
Yep, so that's how it may haveactually been brought about, but
it was fucking awesome I lovedit.
I just wish that I got to gowhen it was busier, because when
I went, it was just me and oneother person um, that was dick
but he went one side and so Iwent to another side.
(57:03):
Right, you know, I don't needto see my friends dicks um, I
like my own and some of myfriends I'd like to see, but me
and dick have been friends forso long.
It's not funny.
I can't see that now.
Um, but yeah, fair day, wrap up, yeah, great day.
So much information.
Check out those websites, whichis positivelifeorgau, and
(57:25):
you've obviously got thedomestic violence one domestic
violence, one which I've now putthat card somewhere.
So, dave, you're going to haveto.
It's dvafoundationorg, I think.
Yeah, I'm a bit on this one.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Sorry, I gave it to you.
Anyway, I'll put it somewhere.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
Anyway, I've mentioned it a few times
throughout, I think, yeah,dvafoundationorg, you're right.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
So, yeah, you've got like that You've got lots of
different information, lots ofdifferent education.
So we hope you've enjoyedtoday's podcast.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
We didn't do anything else.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
No, oh yeah, mardi Gras, we didn't even fucking do
any Mardi Gras?
Speaker 2 (57:59):
We didn't go, we were too busy.
Yeah, yeah, we won't get intothat.
We'll talk about that later,yeah, but yeah, we hope you've
enjoyed today podcast and we'llbe back with you soon.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
It's time gonna go cut a few trees down there.
Okay, have a great day.
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Fully Grown Homos.
With Dave and Matt On today'sshow, we're going to do a bit of
(01:02):
a wrap-up of our Mardi Grasseason, Dave, aren't we?
We are indeed, matt, so we willtalk a little bit about that in
a second.
However, we've been a bitabsent for a little while now
because we've been busy busyboys.
Dave, what have we been doing?
What have you been?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
doing Well.
I've been mainly concentratingon my renovations.
Matt, you know it's taken overmy sort of like my daily
schedule at the moment because Ihave to get it sorted and back
on the market.
You know, pretty ASAP, yep, mystress levels have obviously
increased tenfold.
So you know you've been theresupporting me for that.
So I'm grateful for that.
You know, in every way.
And everybody else has been outthere helping, you know,
supporting me in my down moments, yep, and you yourself have
(01:41):
been busy, busy boy too.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
I've been busy.
I've started a new role as well, so it's been very full on in
the training and developmentsort of system.
Yeah, that sort of categorysort of, and it's been very full
on.
It's learning a lot of contentthat I have no fucking clue what
I'm doing.
I know how to train and developno problem at all.
(02:04):
No fucking clue what I'm doing.
I know how to train and developno problem at all.
But the content of what I'mdeveloping and training on was
just completely a new world forme.
So when we say support, yeah,to say that my friends Dave
especially, and my friends haveactually been there as a support
, because I've had a few dayswhere I've definitely Questioned
, spiralled hard.
(02:24):
So support as always, yeah,lean on your friends.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
But it's easy, though , matt, to be hard on yourself,
especially in a new role,because your expectations are to
give your best.
Oh yeah, and you do.
It's a natural thing, and youhave got the capability, and we
know that.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
You're down four years.
My self-evaluation tools aresomewhat askew and I think
perfection is attainable withinminutes.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Nothing is perfect, it's really not, it's really,
really not.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
So you do have to be a bit easy on yourself at times,
because it's not usually thepeople that you they're the
outside people that sort of aresaying hurry up and get this
done.
It's you, it's you and youalone, yeah, yeah.
So it's definitely been a steeplearning curve, but, yeah, it's
been great and I've had acouple of wins last week, which
(03:13):
has been sensational.
So it's definitely been a turnaround the corner and I've sort
of sat there and I rememberedsomething that one of my very
early bosses said said to me andhe said you don't need to know
everything, you just need toknow who does know.
And I sat there and I'm likeyou're an idiot you do know
everyone that knows everything,and you're just not asking them,
(03:36):
which is something that I usedto be really, really good at,
obviously you're referring toyourself in that myself.
yeah, yeah, yeah, like, yeah,and I'm thinking I, I am very
good at knowing who knows what,because I genuinely like people
and I'm genuinely interested inpeople.
So I want to find out what theyknow and what they do, and it's
not because I want to utilisetheir skills at a later time,
(03:59):
it's just because I genuinelylike it.
But then I've kind of forgottenthat I knew how to do that part
and learn people and um, soyeah, that's why this week's
been significantly look, movingforward, you'll be fine.
Yeah, you will be fine yeah, but, and with yourself like, yes,
it's been a super stressful timefor you, and understandably so
(04:20):
if you look at the size of thisproject you've taken on.
Yep, it's fucking enormous.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Look, look, there's headway.
I mean, I'm pretty much almoston the inside of the house now.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I've seen it for the first time.
Look, I've seen it intimately,obviously.
I've seen it before.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
you bought it and things like that, and you tried
to get your head around what Iwas doing.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I kind of went what the fuck?
And then I seen it about threeweeks ago, four weeks ago maybe,
just in its raw shell, still Inits raw shell, and it was just
like, yep, I kind of get whereyou're going.
And then I seen it yesterdayfor the first time in three,
four weeks and I went, holy fuck, it's just going to be the most
(04:59):
spectacular place.
So again, you need to be proudof yourself.
Oh look.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
I am, you need to give yourself some time.
Yeah, I know, but it's hard whenyou're living in a property and
you renovate at the same time,because you know you don't get a
break from it.
You, you put that expert, likeyou said.
You know, you put a lot ofpressure on yourself to achieve
and obviously my builders beingso efficient the way they are.
When they're there, they justdon't stop.
And then I have to play catchup.
And then when they do multiplethings together in one day, and
(05:24):
then I've got to be the onethat's got to paint and do all
the other bits for them to dothe next stage, it becomes
overwhelming me because I mean,we're painting, you don't just
do one layer, it's like three,four layers in some cases,
depending on what.
What you're painting.
I suppose you know I mean, yeah, and then when they come along
and then have to redo thingsover the top of the paintwork
and you think, fuck, I've justgot to fucking, do I've?
got to really fucking paintagain, yeah, and it's not their
(05:45):
fault, it's just, obviously, youknow, some things happen during
the plastering stages where, ifthey plaster over existing
painted bubbles and stuff likethat, so yeah, yeah, but then
we're diverting off.
But look, it's amazing.
It looks amazing.
I mean I'll be happy when thefront's done.
Yeah, so I'm going with a frontrender and weatherboard effect,
so it's going to be the veryhampton style.
Look from the outside.
You don't know what.
It's all white.
(06:06):
It's going to be spectacular.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, so I'm looking forward to it.
You know I can't.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I can't wait till it's all finished, but fuck, am
I going to give myself a breakafterwards you're definitely
going to give yourself a break.
I am, because normally I jumpstraight into the next one,
don't I?
You know, buy and sell at thesame time.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
That's what you've been doing, but you're not going
to.
I'm forcing you to have a break.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I have to.
I mean, I've got a few healthissues as well.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I love my eye and stuff, so yes, I'm, I'm actually
gonna hold you down and tie youand say you're not yay, daddy,
hold me down you're not gonnaget access to your bank accounts
, I'm gonna go on the shoppingspree.
I'm gonna restrain you and holdyou down.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Uh, hold down and restrain you'll end up buying an
SOP from me, won't you?
Yeah, I will, Dave.
I've got a great investmentproperty for you.
Just so here.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
You're going to buy arrows and re-.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I don't think I was going to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
No, we'll buy something.
We'll buy something better thanthat, yeah, and we'll just
completely gut it and rebuild itfrom the inside out yeah.
Oh God.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Okay, you don't have the money for that.
No, I don't.
I wonder if we could get ShereeBarber on board.
Renovation for profit, sopstyle you could do a new show.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Couldn't you A new?
Speaker 2 (07:13):
show Get your own line.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Hang on For people that don't know what an SOP is.
Dave, what's that?
It's a sex on premises.
Yeah, it's basically a sauna,what we we call church.
Um, so, yeah, um, where you'regonna get fucking laid.
Yeah, um, which has been acouple of weeks for me.
Um, getting itchy, longer forme, longer for him.
Yeah, but I thought I didn'twant to go and do it midweek
this week when I might havepotentially had an opportunity
(07:35):
on a wednesday night orsomething like that, because I
thought we got the um.
We got our, our sexual healthclinic not annual, our regular
sexual health clinic on OnWednesday.
No, on Monday coming.
Oh, monday, yes, sorry, yeah,so I thought I don't want to go
and get infested before I go andget checked.
No, I'll wait till after, buton Wednesday we've got the club
anyway.
Yeah, I know, but I could havealways called in sick for the
(07:55):
club and gone and got dicked.
How?
Speaker 2 (07:57):
rude, I could have.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That's.
I could have subbed in and went.
Hey, you know what, we'regetting a bit late anyway.
So, all right, let's get intoour Mardi Gras season.
Yep, All right.
What was our Mardi Gras seasonlike?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Very, very sparse, Very sparse Now that's not like
us.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Look the last few years, especially since I've
been single or year and a halfor whatever it's been, I don't
know anymore Two years Coming,year and a half or whatever it's
been, I don't even know anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Two years Coming up to three.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I'm getting confused.
No, you've been here over twoyears, mate.
Okay, alright, cool.
Well, anyway, however long it'sbeen since we've known each
other, our Mardi Gras season'sbeen quite the full on event,
alright.
So where are you looking?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Dave, I'm just looking at my nail.
I've got paint in it.
Look at me, I'm talking tosomebody.
I've just got paint in my nail.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Stop getting distracted because you won't be
able to listen to me.
My nails are painted white,yeah, I know, no doubt your
nails are painted, you, princess.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Not painted with that paint.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah.
So we See, and now I've lost mytrain of thought Talking about
have Mardi Gras.
Yeah, we basically haven't gone.
We didn't do anything, apartfrom one thing.
Now I make absolute all effortsto go to this event every year
because I think it's the bestevent on the Mardi Gras calendar
(09:16):
.
And that is I think it's thebest event on the Mardi Gras
calendar.
I just said I did.
I didn't say everyone thinks itis, but I personally think
it's's my favourite.
Well, it's my favourite, notthe best.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
It's a good one to go to.
Yeah, it's Fair Day.
That's the style of it all.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
And I love Fair Day for what it brings to the
community.
Yep Right Now.
It's usually a very inclusiveday.
Everyone gets together,everyone's there to have fun, to
(09:52):
have a picnic, to enjoy the day, the whole thing from woe to go
.
We went this year, couldn't golast year because of the
asbestos problems.
Yeah they cancelled it last yearbecause there was like asbestos
bark everywhere around theparks that they were held in, so
they cancelled it last minute.
So to say I was hankering forit this year was an
understatement.
Yep, now, just before Fair Day,what happened, dave?
Where were we supposed to go onthe Saturday?
(10:12):
So we were supposed to on theFair Day.
I'm going to give you a quickrundown of what was supposed to
happen on Fair Day Day.
Right, we were supposed to pickour friends up from Plumpton.
Oh, yes, sorry, yes, and wewere supposed to go off to fair.
They enjoy the day into theevening, however long we were
there for.
Come home, chill, relax.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
That wasn't the case.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
The night before we were actually going to Newtown.
For those that aren't inAustralia, newtown is a suburb
within Sydney.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, it's a really cool suburb.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's a really cool suburb.
It's a very, very cool suburb.
It's very multicultural, it'svery gay-friendly, yep.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
It's just a cool place to be.
It's got a really good theatrethere which is like the Anmore
Theatre, yep, which has got someof the best shows.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It's a 1930s theatre isn't it?
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, but they've maintained it.
It's if you get to see a bandthere, you get to see the band
there, right, and you get tofeel every single bit.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
You don't need to be on the floor, you can be seated
and you still get that you stillget the feel, you get the vibe.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
It's very like.
It's a.
I think it's about two thousandseats.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I think it's about three thousand altogether.
Oh, I don't know.
Whatever it is, it's not.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
It's not like it's not super big it's not an 80 000
stadium or something like that,no, so it's just quite a small
intimate.
It's got good acoustics inthere, fucking great, especially
for the band that we've seen,which was omd right which is
orchestral manoeuvres in thedark right, very famous 80s
group yes that that band and youdidn't know them all, did you?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I mean, it was one of my favorite bands growing up in
the 80s.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I knew a couple of their songs, yeah, right, um,
but I liked their sound.
But then when we were therelistening I found I knew more of
their songs than I actuallyknew.
I knew right, which was quitegood, but even the songs they
didn't know, I really enjoyed it.
Like these guys were not youngguys anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I mean, they're older than us.
They're like 10 years olderthan us, so they're in their 60s
, but they still were rocking.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
But they were rocking and they were having a ball and
we were having a ball in turn.
It was a great thing.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
And the demographic, however, hang on.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
However, when was that concert?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
according to you.
Well, it was Saturday, whichwas the day before Fair Day,
fair Day, so this is whathappened, looseners.
So we, we went into new town.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
We had a great day.
We went in, we had a beer umpub had some really nice pizza
at um ggs in new town.
If you, if you are from sydneyor if you're traveling to sydney
, go to ggs in new town.
It's a vegan um restaurant butthey have the best vegan pizza
they're all made fresh andthey're all so different in
terms of you know just delicious.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
They're not.
They're not manufactured.
They're all no different interms of yeah, so grilled, just
delicious.
They're not manufactured,they're all no, no.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It's delicious, right , but not sponsored,
unfortunately.
But if they want to throw us apizza, we'll love it.
But all seven but went toGigi's.
Had a bit of a wander aroundNewtown.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
And then we were meant to go to the show at 7
o'clock.
We went to the show.
We lined up as we do outside,got to the front scanned our
tickets.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
I had the tickets on my phone, didn't I?
Because?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
they booked this right, because normally I don't
organize all these things.
You normally organize all themusic, yeah, yeah.
So I had control over this oneand of course you know I had
notification that day said yes,you know the, you know the show
starting, you know welcome andeverything, blah, blah, blah.
I just scanned it and didn'tcheck it.
So went to check in.
Didn't check.
Okay, went to check in blah,blah, blah and no, it wouldn't
scan.
The guy said it wouldn't scan.
(13:30):
So I said, okay, check theother one.
No, he said I'm going to sendyou to the box office because
there might be a problem withthe ticket you might need to get
, like paper tickets.
Walked over to the office,showed her the phone, she had a
look and then she had anotherlook and then she had another
look and then she looked at usand she goes it's tomorrow, it's
tomorrow night, ie Friday night.
(13:50):
So what did we do, matt?
So what?
Speaker 1 (13:53):
we ended up doing was wandering around Newtown.
We made the most of a night.
We went down to the Imperial,which was epic.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Which we watched a really cool drag show.
Right, I had a couple of drinks.
It's very weird in there.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
It's very different.
Now it's a different vibe.
It's been taken over by a verydifferent, so there's lots of
like small little areas upstairslike eateries, yeah, where it
used to be really cool bars andsort of like.
Like the imperial was alwayskind of like the main bar.
That was where priscillapriscilla, queen of the desert,
was filmed, was filmed yeah,yeah, it was that bar.
And then there was sort of abar downstairs and then a bit of
a bar upstairs, right, but notlike the bar upstairs where you
(14:29):
cruise your cocktail lounge typething.
Now, what it is upstairs isactually about 15 different
disjointed rooms and it's just abig pizzeria, basically a big
pizza place.
Right, it still had a good vibe.
It still had a good vibe.
We had a ball, but it wasnotably full of hens and people
(14:50):
out there celebrating hensnights and whatever it is
parties and all that kind ofstuff.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
It's lost that sort of main vibe.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Yeah, look, and there was a lot of the queer
community there still and thatwas great to see.
Good eye candy, great eye candy, candy, great eye candy, very
great eye candy.
But then when we left theImperial, we walked out.
We walked out and there was aguy there with two schnauzers
talking to another guy yeah,talking to another guy, just on
the pedestrian crossing.
Yep, now I've got Chanel, mylittle mini schnauzer, and I've
(15:19):
got Blondie, obviously, my toypoodle.
But whenever I see a snauzer Ican't help but stop and give him
a pat and stuff like that.
And there were brothers with me, yeah, two brothers, right, and
um, I was giving them a pat andchatting to the owner a little
bit and before you know it,fucking 45 minutes later we've
discussed fucking world peaceand come up with solutions for
everything, um, but he's soengaging his name daniel, daniel
(15:42):
, yeah he actually um told us.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
He was a very good looking guy, wasn't he?
Yeah?
Yeah, definitely wanted to takehim home.
But um married straight guy,yeah, supposedly yeah got a kid,
he.
But he thinks he said heenjoyed going to the emerald
because he enjoyed the vibe, hefelt safe, he felt he was really
good obviously since he's takenover.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Sorry imperial.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
So since he's been taken over, he said he's, he's
lost that real.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
It's lost its queerness.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah and he sort of Again.
That's standard for a lot ofpeople in the straight community
.
They like going to gay bars andthey feel safe and they enjoy
the atmosphere.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah well, it's just the atmosphere and what it
should be.
It's just fun and there'sno-one sitting there looking to
pick a fight with you oranything like that for looking
at your business.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
We've seen this happen on Oxford Street.
We've seen a lot of straightpeople go to the gay bars there.
Haven't we?
Yeah, we have.
You know what I mean?
We have?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
But we chatted with him for a good 45 minutes.
He told us about another coupleof hidden gems in Newtown, and
then he walked off with us,didn't he In our minds?
He walked off, or we walkedhome with him and he put the
(16:46):
schnauzers fucking high heaven.
Um, no, that's not what I was,just our fantasy.
That's just just what happenedin our brains.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Um, and then so we, we wandered around a bit more,
but he took us to because he wascarrying walking one.
He said I'll show you some coolplaces to go to boys.
Yeah, and he mentioned what wasit.
I can't remember.
It was a very.
It was a very, not strange, itwas a very, it's cool.
It's a very, not strange, itwas a very it's cool.
It's a very cool bar.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yeah, it's very cool and you, basically you walk down
a set of stairs.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Is it the?
I can't remember what it wascalled.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
It's a weird name anyway, but it was cool.
It was just one room, wasn't it?
It was a hidden bar orsomething like that.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
it was called yeah, but the atmosphere when you walk
in was very bougie, yeah, verymoody, but you got into like
dark and dim but it was likereally quite.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, it reminded me a bit of like a speakeasy kind
of bar, like one of those reallycool sort of 1970s sort of art
deco-y style, just really cool.
You could imagine that they'rewith like a singer and a sort of
jazz.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It wasn't opulent, but it was just very classy
looking, wasn't it, you know?
I mean, it was very moody.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
It was moody and it was very cool, but um so you
went through curtains and allthis kind of stuff literally
yeah, glory holes were the otherside.
No, they went, unfortunatelybut yeah, otherwise it would
have stayed a lot longer butthey have like acts of stuff,
magician acts, but yeah theyhave different acts and
different things there, but Ican't remember the name.
No, but for the life of me.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
And I won't.
We went somewhere else afterthat, didn't we?
We checked out somewhere elsebefore we went home.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
I don't know.
Yeah, we had a kebab, you had akebab.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
We checked out those two guys that we were arguing
that they came in and made up.
Yeah, it was quite cute.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Yeah, so we ended up having a really good night in
Newtown, by the way, regardlessof the concert concert, yeah.
But then the next morning wewoke up, we went sort of picked
up our friends Dick and Fanny,yep, um right, and we basically
went off to fair day with themand, um, we were meeting, we met
another friend yeah.
(18:35):
Sammy, let's call her Sammy.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, her name is Sammy, so we're gonna call her
Sammy because we can't.
She's fine, she did say whatshe wanted to be called yeah, I
can't remember.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
it was Lolita or something like that.
I can't remember, but we'll askher anyway Because she's named
Sammy now.
All right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
She knows who we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, we met up with her andsort of seen a few other friends
.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And our friend Ray.
Yeah, yeah, he came down fromthe Central Coast because he's
to his mum's place on thecentral coast.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
So I met up with everyone, did a bit of a wander
around Fairday and we got therefor about half past ten, so it
already started about eighto'clock, hadn't it.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
No, it doesn't start till ten.
I think we got there about11.30.
Oh, 11.30, that's right.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah, so we got there we have friends that have on
the Central Coast, yep Best.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
If you're after puppy dog products, like as in bow
ties and all those kind of, andDan makes all these things by
hand.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
He had a stroke and he got Tinker as a support dog
and then they formed thisbrilliant, amazing.
Well, he did it to start withjust for fun.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
It was like for something to do.
And now it's turned into thisthriving business.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Yeah, and they're doing so well.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Because it's a fucking great product.
Have a look at their thing.
Yeah, tinker Co, it's just likeit's awesome, go if you've got
puppies.
Even if you don't have puppies,some of their neckerchiefs look
really good on humans.
And their friend Cherie fewthings she does, the lead tag.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Sacks yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Zoomies Dogs.
Yeah, Zoomies Dogs.
I think it is Okay.
Yeah, and as well, and she doesthe lead tags.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
now, she's very creative as well, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
The lead sleeves.
They're cold, right, like I'vegot.
I bought a couple.
One says for Blondie, it saysdon't pat, god, she does right.
And Chanel.
I got one that says and itdoesn't say the actual word, but
it says I bark at cunts, right,but it's got C, dash, dash, t's
(20:32):
.
So you know what it is.
It's like, basically, I bark atcunts and she does so.
It's really fitting and they'rereally cute.
But yeah, that was one of themany, many stalls we visited at
a fair day, absolutely.
Now to say we had someconversations while we were
there.
That's a lot of what we didbecause we conversed with a lot
of different people.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I mean there's a lot of things that we've already
covered in previous podcasts.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, yeah, we weren't talking too much in
depth.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
But we learned a lot during that day, didn't we?
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Fair day was extremely informational right
Now.
They've always got a lot ofeducation on hand there at Fair
Day, right.
So we're going to call outprobably a couple of our key
things that we think areactually really good and
something that we didn't know,right we didn't know right.
So, like our first one, we gotto go.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
It was the very first stand we went to, wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (21:29):
It was literally very first stand we went to, wasn't
it?
It was literally the firststand we walked in, because we
walked in, turned left and bam,it was there, and so they were
handing out little bags withevery.
Can I tell you, I must haveabout fucking 20 fans Wristbands
I've got fans, I've gotwristbands.
Condoms I've got stress balls,I've got condoms, I've got
freaking everything.
(21:50):
But this stand was the firstone we stumbled upon and it was
supported by.
Is it HIV?
It is supported by.
Positive Life NSW is the actualgroup and their website is
positivelifeorgau.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Definitely definitely check it out.
Check it out because you'llfind so much information we're
going to give you a really,really brief account of what
they do, so we were introducedto the, the guy called andrew
andrew heslop, and he's thesenior health promotion and peer
navigator officer as part ofthat group.
Now andrew himself has uh, youknow, has has basically got
(22:31):
cancer, or he's had cancer,diagnosed with cancer, and what
he was explained to us was analcancer and they were trying to
install people.
Um, how much anal cancer is onthe rise?
I've never heard of anal cancer.
I've heard of it but it's not.
Looking at statistics, it's nota big cancer but it's on the
rise.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I'd heard of bowel cancer.
Yeah Right, these are twodifferent things.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
But he was saying that the anal cancer is now on
the rise to men and women, yep,especially in the younger
demographic of people, yep, andhe had like a mock-up.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
He had a mannequin, like you do when you go to a
first aid course, right, andthey've got the full-body
mannequin where you've got toperform your CPR and all that
kind of stuff.
So they had a butt basicallywith the anal cavity and stuff
like that and they said do youwant to put your finger inside?
Put your finger in and see whatanal cancer feels like yeah.
So I kind of I'm a fucking child.
All right, I am a child.
(23:32):
I sat there and I'm gigglingand I'm gone.
Nah, not for me, okay, I'm notfingering this guy's asshole in
the middle of a park.
All right, look, if it was areal guy and he had a nice hairy
hole, I'd fucking stick mywhole hand in there.
That's not an issue for me.
No, I wouldn't.
I'm not a fisting fan.
But have you got fans?
I haven't got fans.
(23:53):
Probably got fans about fisting.
But yeah, I'm not about to sitthere and stick my finger in
somebody's hole.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
He lubed me up, didn't he he?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
So he lubed me up, didn't he?
He lubed, he put the glove onDave.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
He made me do everything properly.
You know what I mean.
Put the lube on, put the lubeon, and then I had to put my
index finger into this.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I wish I was going to , and I don't know why I didn't.
I wish I had have at leastrecorded the sound, because the
sounds Dave was making when hewas actually fingering this hole
it was like oh, oh oh.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Look, there's things that I know and I felt myself
you know what I mean before.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
But Dave was explaining it as he was going
through the process.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So basically what they'd done is they'd put
multiple different elements thatare common within the rectum,
if that makes sense, yeah.
So they put a prostate in thereso you got to feel what the
prostate felt like and you knowthey make you move your finger
around so you can feel what itfeels like properly, and stuff
like that.
They put some hemorrhoids inthere, Hemorrhoids yeah.
(25:00):
So you got to feel what theyfelt like as well.
I've had both of them, so Iknow exactly what they're like.
Yeah yeah, yeah.
But then he turned around, saidlook, you know you got to put
it a little bit further up.
And he said look, move yourfinger to the left.
The day bosses watch, yeah.
And as I moved my finger, Icould feel this like like a
ridge.
And he said, like, what are youfeeling?
I said like well, I feel theridge, he goes.
Well, put your finger furtherup.
(25:21):
So put my finger further up andit fell into like a hole.
So the only way I can describeit it was like a donut, a small
donut.
So what I was feeling on theoutside was the circumference of
the donut, if that makes sense,the actual round part of it.
And then my finger was goinginto the hole and that is
classic indication of analcancer.
So, yeah, so for me that waslike like holy shit, that was
(25:44):
like very informative.
But he was just like wow, itwas great.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
And look and um, what's his name again, andrew's
knowledge on said virus.
Now, like I said, he's beendiagnosed with it.
There's two different types.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
He said wasn't there 16 and 18 or something.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
So the HPV virus is basically the cause.
The cause and there's likedifferent markers throughout the
HPV virus Categories isn'tthere that you have?
And there's so many of them.
And again, he was an expert, hewas fucking sensational and we
do want to get guests on, butI'm still struggling with his
tech part of it.
(26:18):
But yeah, I will test it.
I will actually test it laterthis week with Dave and see if I
can work out if he phones in,if I can still record via the
phone.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Yeah, but we'll work it out so we can actually get
some of these people on to chatabout it properly, because it's
very awkward getting people hereright.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Because you know you live.
You know Well, I live at WoopWoop and everybody else lives in
Sydney.
Yeah, but yeah, everyone elselives in the city.
So if I can get them by thetime, but we've also got to try
and organise a time and a daythat suits everybody.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Suits everyone as well, and it's hard yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
But look, his information was sensational.
Now what Dave's just explainedto you, with going out although
I definitely want everyone goingout sticking their fingers up
their ass because it feels good,but I want you I don't want you
going out there and stickingyour finger in and checking and
thinking, oh shit, I've gotcancer.
(27:05):
What you do need to do, though,is be aware and go to
positivelifeorgau and find out.
Do some research and find outwhere you some research right
and find out where you can gettested for this.
Find out what, because it's onthe rise, and he said that early
detection was the key for thisparticular type of anal cancer.
(27:28):
Yep, so early detection and itcan pretty much be fixed.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
And they're based in Sydney as well.
They're based in Surrey Hills,aren't they?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
But no doubt there'll be other links that we can take
you to look.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
I mean, that was just like the start of the actual
day, wasn't?
It was the start of the day, soand look, and it just got you
know more and more sort of likeinformation given to us, and we
were having chats with everybody?
Weren't we as many as we could?
I mean, there's stuff, stuffthat we knew about, that we
didn't need to sort of like know, but we still had the time and
courtesy to talk to them as wellwell, because the thing is that
(28:00):
some things I find reallyinteresting.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, right now, like I stopped at a stand which was
um swap, which is the sexworkers outreach program,
basically um, and I'm not aboutto go into sex work at any time,
but there's a lot of um stigmaaround sex work and stuff like
that.
Yeah, and I don't just femalesex worker at any time, but
there's a lot of stigma aroundsex work and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Is this female sex worker or male Sex worker?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, of all kinds.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
So the thing is that it's an industry that's been
thriving since before time.
Exactly, it's aboutpre-Victorian times.
Well, we all have itches.
We all need them scratched.
Yep Right.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But it's still frowned upon in some
circumstances and I just don'tget it right.
They provide the service andthey're doing people justice by
doing that, you know yeah, soyou bet they are.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
There's like with sex work there's so many different
people that they service, sothey can.
Whether it be people that arefeeling alone, um, people with
private escorts, whether it's inthe massage, whether it's
stripping and dancing, they areall falling through the um the
category of sex workers.
Whether people are having sexfor food, sex for drugs, sex for
(29:05):
a place to stay, um, like Isaid.
Whether it's street based, likeprivate, whatever like there's,
there's so many differentcategories of sex worker, um, so
, and and these guys were againa great um information source,
basically, and they have awebsite.
(29:26):
Well, actually, I think it'smore social media and it's just
swop new south wales, right, soswop new south wales, right.
And New South Wales, right, soSWOP New South Wales, right, and
that's their Twitter, theirInstagram and on Facebook, their
Sex Workers Outreach Project,right, so check out their
information as well, if it'ssomething that you think you can
(29:48):
actually benefit from, becauseI had a chat with the two people
that were there, right, and Idon't want to actually assign
them any genders, because Ibelieve that one of them was
transgender, but again, I didn't.
I probably did ask, because Ido ask what is your pronouns,
what are your gender, what'syour gender Usually, especially
(30:10):
if I'm uncertain, but I don'twant to assign them a pronoun or
a gender on our show because,again, I can't remember because
that was about four weeks agonow, I feel, and my brain
doesn't retain the informationfor more than five minutes
generally, and I didn't take anynotes that day at all, and he's
not lying.
No, I'm not lying.
My brain does not fuckingretain any information.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
You can't multitask.
He's the only man I know cannotmultitask.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Every man can't multitask.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yes, he can.
Gay men can multitask.
No, they can't.
That's a lie.
That's a lie.
You need to go on amultitasking course.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
But yeah, I don't think I couldn't task multis
enough to task it.
So there were a couple of thestands we visited.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
There was one that I went to with Fanny Well, and so
there were a couple of thestands we visited.
There was one that I went towith Fanny Well I haven't got
the information here because itwas in my bag and my bag's at my
house, yep and it was aboutorgan donations and I think it's
just like standard New SouthWales or Australia-wide organ
donations and they're explainingbasically they are still
(31:14):
lacking organ donations.
So the reason being is becausethere was such a precedence on
who could donate blood andorgans, yep, in the past, with
people with mad cow disease, hivand all this stuff, blah, blah,
blah.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
They even recall that if you were gay, you couldn't
donate.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
No, exactly no.
But it's all changed.
Everything's changed nowbecause they realize that's
bullshit.
We've been fed so much bullshitin the past, you know I mean.
So now they've realized, yes,you know, everybody's free to do
this.
I mean, obviously there will bepeople that have got certain
ailments, like I've got diabetes, so maybe my blood isn't sort
of like good enough for them touse.
Yeah, there might be otherthings, I guess still donate my
organs and stuff, like she said.
(31:51):
And she said the thing is notlately.
You're full bastard, you fallapart um he's definitely
catching on me, um but um.
But like she said, you know,normally you could put on your
driver's license, you know, butthat's been removed now.
So I think it's just a case.
I think she said that's beenremoved as in you know, or
people don't know that you canactually submit that.
I'll have to check theinformation.
Don't quote me on that becauseI might just be getting it all
(32:13):
wrong.
But in generalization she wasjust saying that people these
days still are not willing todonate organs because they don't
know enough about it or theyhave been told in the past that
they're not eligible or theycan't for some reason.
Now she said, look, the bestthing to do is just put it down
as yes, I mean, you can choosewhich organs you do want to do
because, like I know there'severything.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah know there's some people that don't want
their eyes taken.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Some people have.
I mean, at the end of the day,it's a body.
When you're dead, you're dead.
Your soul still goes offwherever it goes, but your body
is there to help, hopefully,other people.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah.
So look, I've put down on mylist that I want my penis
donated.
What for medical science?
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Or just as a tribute to your legacy.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
No, can you imagine the poor bastard that got my
dick right.
They want a mileage log with itand I don't even know if I
could provide that.
They want to know where it'sbeen, how it's been used.
Could you imagine if it went toyour brother?
He'd be very disappointed.
He'd never touch it again, ormaybe he might.
(33:18):
No, okay, no and no and no, notgoing there at all.
But if my dick was donated tosomebody and it had to come with
like a come, well, um, if ithad to like literally um, come
with a where it's been, whatit's done, I couldn't provide
that.
What you couldn't provide thetag no, like the where it's been
list.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
I'm sure it would have.
Like a tree, has little ringson it.
It tells you where and when andwhat time of year you were
there.
Mine should be significantlybigger if it has rings on it you
probably find your penis isgetting bigger because it's
growing which it is.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Maybe every year you've got a different ring
around it, but organ donor go,and that's not cock rings either
if it is on your license, I'mpretty sure it's on your new
south wales.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yeah, I can't remember.
I mean, I mean I'm pretty sure,but mine's on there, but I'm
pretty sure she said that it'sbeen removed or there's.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I don't know check it out there's changes to please
please, please.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
If you are uncertain then and you want to donate your
organs, then please do donateyour organs.
There's so many people and it'slike I would say to her right,
people need.
There will be one opportunityin your life maybe, or a family
member or yourself, that isdesperate to have that, and you
know you've always said no, I'mnever going to donate, donate,
donate, and then your life ischanged by someone else donating
.
Yeah, and you know the decentthing is like.
(34:30):
You know, at the end of the daywe're just a vessel.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Yeah, and you know it doesn't matter, somebody can go
in the ground, does it getburnt?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
so why waste it?
Why waste?
I don't care you what I'mgetting cooked, yeah, but I mean
, if you can take as much out ofyou beforehand that can be used
to help could you imagine?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
how many?
People that you could save yeah, correct, absolutely, and I'm,
I'm, I'm down for that.
That's what I said.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Look, I literally would say I mean your eyes are
the beautiful and other people,people.
Yeah, I know Well, imagine ifthey actually.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Once I get my lenses in, oh wow, then it'll be like,
wow, matt has got beautiful eyes.
I do have pretty eyes.
I've been told thissignificantly.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
And if they don't have my eyelashes, that'd be
amazing.
Yeah, but I think all yourfamily have got beautiful eyes.
Yeah, they do.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
We're really lucky.
We definitely got eyes thereand that obviously contributed
to it as well.
You've got a beautiful hearttoo.
Yeah, sometimes, yeah sometimesI'm a cunt, but it's a
different story.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
But yeah, um, all, right now, okay before.
No, we visited quite a lot ofstandards.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Basically, let's jump into this, let's just jump into
this last one and then I'mgoing to give you what our
visitors that we took along withus.
I discussed what their thoughtswere as an overarching.
But let's just discuss thislast one, dave, because this is
really important and not spokenenough in the queer community.
(35:48):
Look, it's spoken about dailyfrom some perspectives and it
shouldn't happen in the world atall, but it's very rarely
spoken about in the queercommunity, and that is domestic
violence.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yep, yep, yep, and there's so many different forms
and so many different varietieswithin that subgroup.
Now, the two guys I spoke to, Ican't remember what their names
are, but I've got a link totheir website because they're
fully self-funded.
Sorry, I'm walking away fromthe microphone.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
So their website again dvafoundationorg right and
they are self-funded.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, the two guys that set it up very passionate
about what they do.
They know everything about it.
They've experienced domesticviolence themselves and I think
people that have actually hadthat are the best people to give
advice to.
But saying that, I thinkeverybody at some point in their
life will either have had it orexperience it or know someone
(36:55):
that has experienced it.
And it's not just the gaycommunity.
It happens obviously everywhere, but the LGBTQ community
doesn't get enough.
What's it called exposure?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
It's almost taboo, because if a man hits another
man and I'm using domesticviolence in its simplest form
when I say hits, yep, all right,because there's so much more,
and dave's going to duck intothat because he's got all the
pamphlets right but if I say aman hits another man and we,
(37:29):
there's a stigma about going tothe police because we think,
well, he's a man, he's hit meand I'm a man, so the police are
going to look at me and go.
So what?
Just a couple of guys hittingeach other.
Right, and it's not that youdon't have to put up with
domestic violence.
Right, there is help out therefor you.
Um, the police are a source ofhelp.
Um, hopefully, um, and ifyou're in a queer relationship,
(37:55):
there, there will be an LGBTQpolice officer liaison at your
police station, because therewas a police officer that was
abused wasn't there in thecourtrooms apparently?
Yeah, yeah, and I think that's alot of why they actually sort
of brought this about wasbecause this police officer had
been abused, yep, and thecourtroom looked at him and
(38:15):
laughed because he was a big,burly guy and he was a police
officer.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
And a police officer.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
So why would?
And he was so hesitant inreporting because he's seen the
systems.
But he did report and so it wasactually there right, and so
there'll be changes that happen.
So I mean it does happen in ourcommunity, sadly.
It's not something to beashamed of.
If you're on the receiving endof domestic violence, violence,
(38:41):
report it.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Well it's got a credit On one of the pamphlets
they've got.
It's got creating positivechange starts with you, and it
says more than 60% of LGBTQpeople will experience violence
or abuse with an intimatepartner or family member in
their lifetime.
And again, the family member isso important.
There's so much abuse that'shappened in the past and still
happening, you know what I meanwithin members of people of the
(39:03):
family that abuse more friendsof families.
And then it's got 72% of theLGBTQ community who experienced
domestic family violence did notreport any of the abuse at all,
and that's standard.
Again, yeah, you know it's that.
It's stupid stats.
1.7% of LGBTQ people reportedtheir abuse to their employers.
(39:23):
So still very low.
And it happens in the workplaceas well.
You think about it, you know.
I know things are changing, butthey're still very, very far?
Yeah, of course there's still somuch improvement here.
Yeah, you know, still very,very fast.
Still so much improvement here.
Yeah, you know, um, and thenfinally it's got 2.3 percent of
lgb people, uh, reported theirabuse to a domestic and family
violence service.
Yeah, so, and there areservices out there, you know, I
(39:46):
mean there are some services outthere.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
They got near listed on there.
What I would say is go to theirwebsite, which is, like I said
before, dvafoundationorg, right,but I would basically do that.
Now there is actually aDomestic Violence Awareness Day
and that happens on the 28th ofMay, right?
So if you go todvafoundationorg, you can
(40:10):
actually find out a little bitmore about that Domestic
Violence Awareness Day.
Now these guys actually do arun of a series of courses that
you can actually self-pacedlearning online.
So if you want to actually learna little bit more about it, so,
not because you may not haveactually been in the situation,
but bystander toolkits arefantastic, right, there's a
(40:34):
bystander toolkit, right, andyou can do something about it,
because hopefully, you'll neverbe in this situation, right,
hopefully, but, but you need tobe as a bystander.
You can recognize that it isabuse.
You can respond um, it says how, how can you help?
Right, and then you can referto a suitable service.
(40:57):
So you might not be the personthat's being abused, but there's
three little steps.
So respond, recognise, respondand refer Three simple steps to
help somebody with it.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
And you might be saving your life or someone
else's life.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Now, not part of the queer community, this person
that I assisted, but there wassomebody in my not my living
space, but within my vicinitythat lives in the complex where
I was, and she was basicallypart of a domestic violence
situation.
So she reached out to you.
(41:35):
She reached out to me because Icould see that she was
struggling one day and I said toher you okay, um, because she
looked like she was about tobreak, and I said are you okay?
And she was like, no, this isthe situation.
I said look, do you want totalk?
And because I'm me, right, um,she opened up, right, and so I'm
a vault in that sense.
(41:56):
That's why I'm not giving anynames or anything like that,
nothing but, um, she opened up.
I insisted that she give me hernumber, right, and said that,
and I gave her mine and I saidlook, anything you want me to
look out for, right, anythingyou need, any moment of the day,
the night, text me.
(42:17):
I put her into my favorites sothat that way, if it was the
middle of the night and I'm onsleep mode, her number will come
through, right.
If she texted or rang, allright, um, I said I am at the
front of the building.
I can basically get the policehere asap.
All right, um, so I got herdetails.
(42:38):
She asked me that if I couldlook out with her the separate
former partner, him, becauseshe'd sort of separated from him
but he kept harassing andbasically threatening um.
I said all right, if I see hiscar, either here or in the
street anywhere, I'll just sendyou a quick text.
If you don't respond, I'll callthe police.
All right, she said that'd bereally good.
(42:59):
Thank you so much and all that.
So so it's just about lookingout.
Yeah, right, um, turns out abouta week and a half, two weeks
later I did see his car, so I'dsent her a message and 30
minutes later I didn't get aresponse and so I'd sent another
message, said just just lettingyou know I'm about to call the
police.
And then she responded prettymuch within seconds and said oh,
(43:23):
it's okay, we're back together.
Classic example.
Unfortunately, it was a week orso later and then she ended it
completely with him.
Thankfully, she had thefortitude to do that.
But I then had a bit of a chatwith her and said look, you
don't need that shit.
Like you know, you're abeautiful human from inside to
(43:46):
out, yep.
Like we don't need to put upwith crap.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Like this from people , and sometimes being on your
own is the best thing, becauseyou don't have to be submitted
to that sort of abuse.
And look, he needed to seekhelp as well.
But I didn't have arelationship with him, no right,
so I didn't.
He came across as very sort oflike nice, nice guy and all that
kind of stuff they always do,you know, I mean yeah yeah, so
look, I mean, like I said, thereare some red flags and some
(44:10):
green flags.
Speaker 1 (44:11):
I'm not going to go through all of them, but some,
some of the red flags, like,they monitor and control where
you go, what you see, who youtalk to.
All right, that's never good.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
But you've got to understand that is Disregard
your boundaries.
Yeah, but you've got tounderstand that that is
something you probably aren'tseeing.
You know, it's just acontrolling method and that's
down to them.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
So look, I mean, if you see some of those flags,
they're inconsiderate and haveunpredictable moods, Right, all
right, now let's not use thatone as a red flag all the time,
because, no, I haveunpredictable moods, yeah but
you're not violent, but I'm notinconsiderate at all.
They invalidate your genderidentity or gender expression.
So, again, if you're trans ornon-binary and you're with a
(44:55):
partner that's identifying asmale and they're not actually
they're going trans, doesn'tmatter, all right, that's not
the person for you, yeah, allright, generally not the person
for anyone, but, no, um, theyneed to seek help and education,
right, but, um, they'redefinitely not the person for
you, right, and they often putyou down.
Do not stand for that shit.
All right, do not stand forthat, like there's plenty of
(45:17):
other people out there yeah, sothere's some people out there
that will.
You are free to have your ownfriendships.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
You don't see the red flags straight away.
I mean, they sputter you, theygive you all of what they need
and then, eventually, thecontrolling starts yeah I mean
narcissistic behavioral traitsis exactly that.
I've been through it.
I think you said you wentthrough once.
Yeah, um, and yeah, I mean,when you sort of open your eyes
and then look back at all theevidence that is submitted to
(45:44):
you by people that are tellingyou these things, then you think
what the fuck did I?
Why didn't I act on this?
Why didn't I see these things?
Speaker 1 (45:51):
yeah, you don't because you are so engrossed in
that person yeah, so anyway, we,anyway, we're going to wrap
this up there, but look on thisside, yeah On that part, yeah On
that one.
So remember that all thisinformation can go.
You can go to dvafoundationorg,right, and find out a ton more
information there.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
All right, and that was only a few stands that was a
couple, I mean they had so manystands to talk to dave loves a
chat.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
I do, as you all know .
All right, I don't mind a chateither guy.
Frankly, um, I was aware, um,throughout most of the day, that
we had some friends with us aswell, that I wanted them to
experience as much of fair dayas they possibly could.
Now, fair Day in itself isfundamentally.
(46:38):
There is a lot of informationstands, but there's a lot of
places to buy shit as well.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
Yeah, support the community.
Speaker 1 (46:43):
So you can actually go up and down.
It's like a giant big market,it is.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
And they sell not just LGBTQ stuff, it's
everything, everything.
It's like a market.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
If you wanted LGBT stuff.
There's a lot of small businessowners, like the girl from the
previous podcast.
Oh my God, I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
One of the knitted stuff, the one that does all the
knitted stuff?
Speaker 1 (47:06):
She was there.
I've got her name heresomewhere they Craft, that's
right, they Craft.
She was actually at Fair Dayand she was selling her
crocheted butt plugs and thingslike that.
There, she was actually at fairday and she was selling her,
her, um, crocheted butt plugsand things like that.
There, she does make animals.
They sorry, they were there,not she.
(47:27):
Sorry, I apologize, um, but Idon't mean to.
I didn't mean to misgender youthen.
Sorry, um, they were there andthey, um, were selling their
stuff.
So, and it was great, butthere's lots of things that you
can actually buy there.
However, I asked our friendsDick and Fanny, right, and Sammy
.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
And Sammy.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
And Ray, but I asked Dick and Sammy More so, yeah,
dick and Fanny more so whattheir overall vibe was on the
day, and dick's comment to mewas that it's a really cool vibe
.
It's really such a from anoutsider looking in, I can see
(48:01):
that there is some equalityright and there is some
community, he said.
However, what I'm failing tounderstand is that how, if you
want one community and you wantequality, how everything seems
to be so disjointed and so boxedin and from what I mean by
(48:21):
boxed in, or what he means byboxed in, was that the Bears
were with the Bears.
Yep, the Twinks were with theTwinks.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
The Muscle.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Boys were with the Muscle Boys.
The trans community were withthe trans community.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
The Fairies were with the Fairies, the twinks were
with the twinks, the muscle boyswith the muscle boys.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
the trans community.
We were with the fairies, withthe fairies, the fairies with
the fairies, like there was, etc.
Speaker 2 (48:35):
Etc there was no real intermingling there was no
demographic cohesion.
Was there no?
Speaker 1 (48:42):
there was, there was, look, there was just, it was
very, very singular in every waypick a box and you fit there
and that's where you go, right?
Yeah, and we've known this inthe game.
We've seen this because we'repart of the community, so we
know that, like you know, if wewalk into Ark, for example,
we're not necessarily going tobe looked at and welcomed, right
(49:04):
, but I'm also at 53 years ofage, I don't really want to go
to Ark anymore.
Speaker 2 (49:09):
Anyway, I wanted to go.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
But the thing is, it's just like there is certain
parts of the community thatreally judge you for being not
what you fit in.
You don't fit their tick in thebox.
And I didn't say did you notice?
He kind of went this is justreally obvious.
It's just different than what Ithought he said, because you
(49:32):
guys, all we hear in the mediaand from an external source is
equality, equality, equality,which he says, and like
diversity, and like let's allbecome one, he said, but you're
not even one within your owncommunity.
No, he said, and he likened itto racism, right of a degree.
(49:53):
He said, like he's Filipino,right, and he said, well, he's
fucking Aussie, right, he's notFilipino, but, to look at, he's
Filipino.
Yeah, and I said, but he sortof basically said look, it's
like this community doesn't workwell with this community as
such from a racism perspective.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
And that's interesting because he's not
part of the community.
So for him to see.
That emphasises what we alreadyknow.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Yeah, which what we already know is that boxers and
all that kind of stuff.
But look, that was like I said.
That was just a quick snapshotof how Fan love yeah.
Yeah, every one of them loved it, yeah, but it was, yeah, every
one of them loved it.
But it was just like a bit oflike, oh shit, and I think one
of the things at one of thestands we went to, he was kind
of blown away because there wasa self-test, a self-HIV test,
(50:42):
that they were handing outpamphlets and that and they
basically gave him some statsaround the people that were
using these tests and they saidthat I think about 80% of them
were actually married men thatslept with men.
And he said so gay?
And they said no, no, no, theydon't identify as gay, they just
(51:02):
sleep with men.
And he said but that makes themgay, right?
And it was like no, they'rejust men that sleep with men.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
That's how they identify, right?
He said like no, they're justmen that sleep with men.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
That's how they identify right, he said, and a
lot of them are using the HIVself-test because they don't
want to go to a doctor.
They definitely don't want togo to a family doctor or
anything like that.
So he was kind of blown away bythat stat.
And a lot of them come from outWest or, like you know, the
South West, which is sort of andand I said, jim, we'll have a
(51:31):
think about the demographic thatlives in the southwest and out
west.
Um dick, and he went, yeah, Isaid, look, a lot of them are
very much outwardly homophobic.
I said, but when we, when meand dave, have gone to church,
yeah, I said we see a lot ofpeople join us, Join us at
(51:51):
different stages and differentthings.
I said a lot of them are fromthose demographics.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
So, yeah.
There's no judgment on anybody.
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
You do what you want to do and please don't stop
doing me.
But yeah, I love a straight man, as Mitch is the next guy.
Speaker 2 (52:12):
Sometimes it can be quite a turn on, can't as well?
Fuck, yeah, especially a hothops husband, yeah, but yeah.
So apart from that, I mean thedemographics I found actually at
the actual event were acomplete mixture you had the
lgbt community supportingeverything.
Yeah, yeah, but there's a lotof straight families there with
their children and everythingelse.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
That which was great because that gives for a way
more accepting future.
Speaker 2 (52:33):
Yeah, a fun day.
Speaker 1 (52:35):
Because if people are thinking that this is life,
this is everyday life and Idon't want to use the word
normal because that's a stupidword but if this is everyday
life and how it should be lived,where everyone actually just
gets along and talks and hasgreat fun together, well then
fuck yeah, I'm for it.
Right?
So everyone, come to our events.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
They also had a lot of entertainment going on,
didn't?
They the entertainment wasgreat.
So the main stage.
We didn't stay later on becauseit goes on all night, doesn't
it?
It goes on way later.
So they got different areaswith music, DJs, DJs set up.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
They had people on stage doing reenactments of
musicals and stuff.
So there is a show that'splaying in Sydney at the moment,
titanic, which is a CelineDion-esque style musical, which
is a bit of a parody.
It's a parody, but it'sapparently sensational and we've
got to get tickets before itcloses.
If we get time, no, we're goingto make it time.
I don't give a fuck, we'remaking time.
All right.
It's like $75 a ticket.
(53:35):
They're cheap as shit.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yeah, I know, but what I'm saying is your dialogue
of time and your scheduling.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
I know we have lots on.
We're going to see a DollyParton show soon.
I've Coming up very soon.
Very exciting.
In the past few weeks we'vegone and seen Kylie.
That was awesome, wasn't it?
Oh, kylie was amazing, butwe'll delve into that later,
later another one, yeah, becauseotherwise this is going to be a
seven-hour podcast.
But yeah, and look, it was justlike they had food, they had
(54:04):
drinks, they had everythingthere.
It was organized spectacularlyright.
It was great.
The food I thought was actuallyquite reasonably priced.
For again, we're at a marketright, so you pay market prices.
Nobody actually complainedabout it, and the food that I
had was fucking sensational.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
It was slightly different to what we normally
have.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Yeah, it was fresh and it was clean and it was
absolutely delicious.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
They even had water stands there, didn't they?
They had big water bowls.
Speaker 1 (54:27):
Yeah, water everywhere they had seating
everyone around.
Everywhere they were sponsoredby a big supermarket and this
supermarket was handing out icypoles.
It wasn't my favouritesupermarket, but anyway it was
the other shit one, coles, butanyway, all right.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
Only shit in your mind.
Speaker 1 (54:47):
Yeah, correct, but it was them.
But they did hand out free icypoles, so that was actually.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
That was a good and it was a warm day, wasn't it?
It was a very warm day.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yeah, there's a lot of hot guys there as well a lot
of very good looking men, umprobably some very beautiful
women as well, wasn't as manyspeedo clad men?
Speaker 2 (55:03):
that was years previously, yeah, but yeah, it's
still fun though wasn't it Imean yeah, um.
And finally, the funniest thingI saw there was that pissing
wall.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
Oh yeah, that was so cool.
It was very, very weird.
Look, it was just like aportable urinal right Urinal,
Urinal.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
We're never going to have this debate.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Because, I'm right, we discussed that last night,
I'm always right, but yeah, thisportable urinal.
Right, I'm right, we discussedthat last night, I'm always
right, but yeah, this portableurinal right.
I'm not going to correct you,god.
It was just like four bigplastic walls.
Were they plastic?
Were they Three plastic?
Yeah, I thought it was wood.
Speaker 2 (55:40):
No, no plastic.
Yeah, do you know?
Speaker 1 (55:43):
you get like a sheep enclosure where they put you in
there, yeah, and they had thefence around the outside of it.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
You could see through .
You could see through the fence.
Speaker 1 (55:51):
Some sit in there and go like I might proposition
myself up there a little bitlater, just at the top of the
hill, and look down at all theguys taking leeks and check out
all their cocks and then go yeah, you're that one, I want the
big one.
Speaker 2 (56:05):
I want that one Daddy , but it was a clever.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
Men lining up at Portaloos does not make sense to
me.
These urinals should bestandard at any outdoor event.
Speaker 2 (56:18):
You're screened off, so you're not offending anybody.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
You're screened off, so you're not actually.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
You can see into it via the entrance, can't you?
Speaker 1 (56:26):
You can see the back of people.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
You can't see their dicks.
If you're close enough to theentrance then you'll see
everything.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Yeah, but they did have it screened for privacy.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
But again, if you were that shy, you'd wait and go
to a cubicle and do you knowwhat?
Most people, most guys, wouldjust get out of the car and
they'd go piss against a tree.
They don't give a flying fuck.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
They're that desperate they'd do it a great
solution to people pissing allover the ground at the park.
Yep, so that's how it may haveactually been brought about, but
it was fucking awesome I lovedit.
I just wish that I got to gowhen it was busier, because when
I went, it was just me and oneother person um, that was dick
but he went one side and so Iwent to another side.
(57:03):
Right, you know, I don't needto see my friends dicks um, I
like my own and some of myfriends I'd like to see, but me
and dick have been friends forso long.
It's not funny.
I can't see that now.
Um, but yeah, fair day, wrap up, yeah, great day.
So much information.
Check out those websites, whichis positivelifeorgau, and
(57:25):
you've obviously got thedomestic violence one domestic
violence, one which I've now putthat card somewhere.
So, dave, you're going to haveto.
It's dvafoundationorg, I think.
Yeah, I'm a bit on this one.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Sorry, I gave it to you.
Anyway, I'll put it somewhere.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
Anyway, I've mentioned it a few times
throughout, I think, yeah,dvafoundationorg, you're right.
Speaker 2 (57:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (57:46):
So, yeah, you've got like that You've got lots of
different information, lots ofdifferent education.
So we hope you've enjoyedtoday's podcast.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
We didn't do anything else.
Speaker 1 (57:56):
No, oh yeah, mardi Gras, we didn't even fucking do
any Mardi Gras?
Speaker 2 (57:59):
We didn't go, we were too busy.
Yeah, yeah, we won't get intothat.
We'll talk about that later,yeah, but yeah, we hope you've
enjoyed today podcast and we'llbe back with you soon.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
It's time gonna go cut a few trees down there.
Okay, have a great day.
That's a wrap from us.
We've been your fully grownhomos and we look forward to
opening your mind, your ears andyour curiosities.
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