July 15, 2025 • 51 mins
What drives someone to become a serial killer? Is it nature, nurture, or something more sinister lurking beneath the surface?
Through a blend of psychology, true crime analysis, and thoughtful reflection, we explore the minds of history's most notorious murderers—with a specific focus on killers from the LGBTQ+ community. From Jeffrey Dahmer's disturbing crimes to the recent case of Erin Patterson (Australia's "mushroom killer"), we examine what makes these seemingly ordinary people commit extraordinary acts of violence.
The conversation reveals fascinating psychological patterns: many serial killers are driven by a complex mix of control issues, childhood trauma, and thrill-seeking behaviors. We uncover how killers like Dennis Nilsen and Steven Port specifically targeted gay men, exploiting vulnerabilities within our community. Most chillingly, we contemplate how the most dangerous predators often appear completely normal to those around them.
This isn't about glorifying these individuals, but understanding them. By recognizing warning signs and addressing root causes, perhaps we can prevent future tragedies. As we discuss: could an ordinary person snap under the right circumstances? The answer might surprise you.
Between our darker moments, we share updates on our week—including a collaboration with podcaster Danny Boy, meeting our new friend Clay, and announcing four new original songs available on all streaming platforms. Plus, we rant about our latest pet peeves from queue-jumpers to noisy pokie machines!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Fully Grown Homos with Dave and Matt.
(00:56):
On today's episode, we're goingto dive into the deep, dark,
mysterious or Mysterious or darkmysterious world of serial
killers.
Now let me just put adisclaimer out there.
We do not find serial killersamusing, or we do not want to
(01:25):
portray them as something likeheroes or anything like that um,
we um.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, explain why.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Explain why we brought the podcast because we
feel for the victims, yep of theof the serial killers, and this
is why we're talking about it,um, but we, I'm also really
intrigued by it.
But before we get into that,let's do a little wrap-up of
last week, dave, because we'vehad a busy week.
(01:47):
Well, busier, our weeks arealways fucking busy.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well, we have, yeah, always, always busy.
Yeah, well, we've done thingsthis week anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
We certainly have done things, and some people
Done things and people andpeople have done us.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, we've had a bit of a fun variety week.
We've had a very good week andsome people Done things and
people and people have done us.
Yeah, again and again, bit of afun variety week.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
We've had a very good week, a very good week.
So where do we want to start?
At the very beginning, becauseit's a very good place to start.
Go on then.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
You sing the song and I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Let's start at the very beginning.
It's a very good place to startsaying anymore, yeah okay, um,
that's from sound of music, justin case you didn't recognize it
.
Um, yeah, all right.
Um, so we on saturday, we allwe got it.
So we've got a fellow podcasterwho reached out to us when he
was basically um setting up hispodcast and because we'd like
(02:41):
this show and things like well,he'd like ours, and he said he'd
love to have us on.
Now he does a question andanswer style podcast.
His name is danny boy andthat's it.
That, or his name is danny.
These podcasts is the danny boyshow and, um, it's, I think,
only up to episode two.
I've only listened to episodeone.
So far he's done more, but hehasn't done he hasn't downloaded
(03:01):
um, but he reached out to usand asked us we would love to go
on his, whether we would liketo go on his show, and we said,
of course we would.
We'd love to um.
We finally worked out how to doit and, as a result, we will be
guests on his podcast in whenhe, when he publishes, yeah,
yeah, he's he's got a quite afew in the bank already, um, but
(03:24):
he said we were way better thanany of them.
I'm joking, he didn't say thatto the other guests, he just
said that we were way handsomer.
Oh no, hang on.
He didn't say that either, butwe said that we're handsome but
we're going to be on his show.
It was a great fun experienceit was.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
We chatted for a long time before we even hit record
we need to get to know himbecause I mean, I've never
spoken to him.
You've correlated with him,yeah, just a little bit
communicated.
Sorry, um, but yeah, it wasgood to actually to have a good
conversation prior to that andhe's, he's, he's got a very good
voice on him.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, he sounds great and he's a good looking guy as
well.
He is a bit hot, yeah, I like.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I like it with his mo .
He does a little mo.
I like it with his beard, but Ithink his mo suits him even
better.
It makes him even more sort oflike Take that for a ride.
Yeah, absolutely so we wereperving on you, Danny, when we
were doing this show.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, we were, but it was really fun.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It was actually fun to do because we've podcast
before, so he took our cherry,he did um and um and it was a
lot of fun.
He made it really simple,really easy, but it's a very
clever concept.
Yeah, I think questions andanswers what he's on to is good.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah it's good and, as I said, he he sort of he'd
reached out previously and saidto me um, how low can it go?
And I said, mate, take it tothe gutter, I'm there, I'm there
, for anyone that's listening tothis podcast knows that I'm
down in the gutter.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I mean I reckon we could definitely do another
segment with him again.
Yeah, you know, and I think, asI said to him afterwards, I
think what he's got is quitegood in terms of, like, if he
was to go out to a club or a pubor something like that and they
had like an introduction,intermittent sorry session
between like a raffle andsomething else, I mean he could
get on the mic and he couldactually get all these tables.
(05:09):
Yeah, he'd be great because A,he's got the voice for it, he's
got the looks and I think he'sgot the personality to match it
all.
So you know, so, yeah, so, ifyou haven't listened to Danny
Boy, go on his.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, jump on, listen to Danny Boy podcast.
You can find it wherever youdownload your favourite podcasts
, obviously.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
And yeah, check him out because he's a handsome
fella as well, which weappreciate.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Now on to another handsome fella, that we met Clay
.
We met Clay.
We met him at church a coupleof weeks ago, caught up with him
and had quite a fun day thatday at church.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
We've met him twice, haven't we?
We over the time, um, andbasically every time we caught
up with him, we've had good fun,we had lots of fun.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
It was, it was, it was, it was hot sessions.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
But he's a nice guy.
Yeah, he's a really nice guy.
He's the same age as me.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, age, yep same born 71 um and he's got a very
interesting story as well.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
He's very similar to me.
He was married and has gotchildren.
Yep Came out later in life and,yeah, he's still navigating the
actual gay world, the worldthat we live in.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, the odd, strange gay world that we live
in.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
But he's just such an easygoing guy, such a very
engageable guy, very funny, yep,very funny.
Handsome man as well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I was extremely amused because I love my banter.
I like having a joke aroundwith people and things like that
.
We were sitting at one of ourlittle cafes that we go to
Nadia's Nadia's is called thecafe and the first waitress came
up and he looked at her with aserious face.
He said, oh, excuse me, are youNadia?
(06:47):
And she looked and she went no,no, no.
And he's gone.
Well, who's Nadia?
And she's gone.
Oh, that's just the name of thecafe.
And then literally the nextthing, another girl comes up to
deliver her coffee and he didexactly the same thing.
By this stage I'm having agiggle, which is funny.
(07:12):
But then the third girl came upto deliver our food.
She's quite younger, reallyyoung, right, probably 17, 18,
if, if that.
And he said to her are younadia, right?
And she gave some sass and Isat there and I'm going, oh my
god, this is great right, andthey were just volleying, so it
was really really what was herresponse to that question when
he asked her well, she said I'mway too young to be called nadia
(07:33):
.
She's do I look like?
Do I look like a nadia?
Or something like that.
I'm too young to be called anadia.
Um, so it was like.
It was like.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Then it was, it was volleying and it was fun, but he
just did it to everybody and wehad like multiple staff members
that came over to our table.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
And then when we went to pay at the end there was a
young guy at the counter and hewent Are you Nadia?
By that time, so by that timeeveryone had gotten in on it,
Like literally every person thelady that does the barista, kim,
the lady that does the barista.
She's basically in on it andshe's like awesome.
We know her very well becausewe're there.
(08:09):
They do good coffee and goodfood there.
So we've had many chats withher and she's basically sitting
there and I go guess my name I'mnot Nadia, but guess my name
and we're sitting there andwe're trying to work it out and
she says all right.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It's three, it's two words.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's two words, and so it can be two words, and
we're all trying to sit thereand we're going Kellyanne,
kylie-anne, melissa-anne, karen,karen, and like she took
advantage of that, yeah, but itwas fun.
It was fun, but he's a hot,sexy guy as well.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So, yep, we had lots of fun on the Friday night here
in my place you more so, becauseI went home and then I came
back on the Saturday morning heattacked me.
Yeah, and I came back on theSaturday morning and he was
still attacking you yep had somemore fun.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
we went out for the break-in, did all that kind of
stuff as well.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Then we had more fun again.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Had more fun and more fun and more fun.
So we'll catch up with himagain very soon.
So yeah, it was lots and lotsof fun.
What's better than two?
Three, what's better than three?
Four?
What's better than four?
Five?
Any holes?
A hole?
Oh no, not just like that.
(09:20):
There can't be any holes a goal.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
But, um, sex is fun, it is, and it's meant to be fun,
it is.
And, and when you've got peoplethat connect and they can make
it work, it's even better yeah,but the conversation and and the
their friendships are alwaysgood as well.
So hopefully we'll be catchingup with clay again, um, and
maybe this week, maybe next weekfor definite, I reckon, um.
But yeah, I mean in themeantime.
Apart from that, I made moreprogress on the house.
So the house inside is probablyabout 98 done now, matt, um and
(09:46):
uh, basically the outside'sgetting progress now.
So the top half of the weatherboard has all been done.
Yep, um, had the brick workdone.
I've got to wait for therenders to come in two weeks
time.
Um, the front lawn area isleveled off and the and the
retaining walls now in place.
We've got to demolish thecarport next week and then dig
(10:07):
up the old driveway ready to laya new driveway um and then full
steam ahead.
It is, it is and it's gettingexciting, but at the same time,
with with that comes the cost ofpaying everything off and the
more stress and everything elsethat goes with it.
Yeah, um, but again I've got todeal with that as it goes along
.
Um, but otherwise, yeah, it'sbeen good.
(10:28):
Um went to the club this weekand I I won on wednesday night.
Yeah, you did, you did so, yeah, so that was really good and,
um, yeah, so that's our week.
Pretty much it's been good.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's been a good week .
Now let's get dark, deep.
Let's get deep.
Let's get mysterious.
Let's talk about serial killers.
Yep, so we've done someGoogling.
Obviously, I love a serialkiller podcast.
I like True Crime myself and Ikiller podcast.
(11:00):
I like true crime myself.
Um, and I'm listening toshandy's story at the moment,
which is about a, an australian,young australian girl from um,
north queensland, who was, um,basically stabbed a number of
times.
I'm not at the end yet, so Idon't know how it ends, but her
main suspect is her umex-boyfriend, um, but again, I'm
not sure whether he's done it.
I have my own opinion,obviously, but I've got to wait
till the end of the podcast.
How can these people find out?
(11:20):
this Is it on a podcast yeah,shandy's story, shandy's story,
and it flows into Shandy'slegacy.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And how did you find out about?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
this, I don't know, it's because I was listening to
another one called Bronwyn,which was about Not relating to
anybody we know.
No, not relating to anybody weknow.
No, not relating to anyone weknow.
And it was again about herpartner that they believe killed
her as well, but her body hasnever been found, and things
like that as well.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That's currently on hiatus.
I think that's still waiting tobe wrapped up as well, for that
one as well.
Okay, yeah, so many interestingthings about serial killers.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
well, the whole, the whole purpose of this, this,
this whole segment today wasbrought up because of this, this
one that's in the current umnews, with us at the.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Moment.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, and that was with erin patterson, erin
patterson the mushroom killer,yeah the chef that killed all
her family.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
She had a dinner party and killed her friends.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
But it's bizarre, Like you said.
I mean, you don't have to belike your typical stereotypical
serial killer, the ones that wesee as really psychopathic, you
know.
In that regard, I mean, she'sgot to be psychopathic to some
degree, I suppose, if you wantto do it.
But she just came across aslike a normal mother would be.
But, you just don't know what'slurking behind those eyes.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
You don't know, do you, dave?
You don't know who could be aserial killer, isn't that, right
, matt?
It could be one sittingstraight across from you.
Yeah, who knows?
Yeah, it could be.
But I want to touch on a coupleof them, right, you don't want?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
to touch them.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
You just want to touch on them, true, all right.
So oh, you would do.
Right, I have a crush.
All right.
Now again his victims.
He had 17 victims.
Right, he was known as amilwaukee.
They've got at least as amilwaukee cannibal, but I'm sure
it was a milwaukee milwaukeemurderer.
Right, doesn't matter either.
(13:12):
He's from wisconsin, um in theus of a he was.
He's no longer alive.
No, he's no longer alive.
I don't get a chance to datehim ever, um, which is probably
a good thing because I stayalive.
Then, um, but he used to lureyoung men from gay bars often
and killed them and committedacts of necrophilia and
cannibalism on cannibalism onthem.
(13:33):
Jeffrey dharma, yeah, now hewas hot, right in my opinion.
I used to find him extremelyattractive, right.
I also watched, um a show wherethey had darren chris portray
him, um, and he was great.
You know, I'm sure darren chris.
I think so.
I think it was pretty sure itwas.
(13:54):
I think so, um, but he wasjeffrey dharma, literally,
because I was in my youth, whenhe was basically active between
1978 and 1991.
So then you're slightly olderthan what we would have been.
No, that was.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That was when he was born, that's when he was active
yeah, but that's what I'm saying, so I think he was a little bit
older.
He was only in his 20s, yeah,when he started.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah um, so, so, 1991 sort of thing.
So I would have definitely beenin my prime and my hormones
would have been running wild,yep.
And I just remember reading hisbooks, or yeah, because I
didn't have audio books backthen so I would have had to read
stuff about him.
Oh, wow, right, and beingreally interested in his murders
and what they were happening.
Obviously, being a young gayman at that time, I was thinking
(14:37):
, fuck, this could actuallyhappen to.
This could have happened toanyone.
It still can it still can itstill does.
Well, it still does.
There was those guys that wereluring people in from Grindr and
beating the shit out of themand robbing them recently.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
So be careful out there, boys yeah definitely, but
Jeffrey Dahmer is like he's.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
When I asked ChatGBT to give me a list of gay serial
killers, he basically gave me hecame top of the list.
Now he isn't the one that'smurdered most people, right that
(15:20):
?
I guess that accolade I don'twant to say that because that's
really wrong goes to a guycalled Randy Craft and he was
active between 1970s to 1983.
That's 13 years, right, andhe's estimated killing between
16 and 67 people, right?
Wow?
He targeted young men, many ofwhom were US Marines.
The victims were drugged,tortured and mutilated.
(15:40):
So it's pretty fucked up.
I gotta say, yeah, prettyfucked up indeed, um, but yeah
who's that?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
well, I got one very similar from the uk, matt, which
was um, a guy called dennisnielsen and again a gay guy, and
he would lure people back fromLondon.
It seems like most of thepeople that commit these serial
killings are from London areaYep or UBIS.
Yeah, yeah.
So, capital cities, big capitalcities, and again, he would
(16:12):
lure people back to his houseand then basically drug them and
then basically mutilate them.
I think he had sex with themwhen they were dead and then he
would cut their bodies up.
And what he was doing he wasstuffing these bodies down the
drain, yeah, in his apartment.
And over time people startedcomplaining of the smell that
(16:33):
was coming from the apartment.
You know rotting flesh, as youwould imagine.
So there was.
I think the police had come outseveral times.
They hadn't charged him, theycouldn't find anything and they
didn't know what it was.
They thought maybe some animalhad died in the sewage and they
got the.
I think they got the plumbersor whatever, out the sewer.
People had to come and try andclear it all away and they
thought they had got rid of itand they thought they had got
(16:55):
rid of it, and then, obviously,this continued more and more.
So obviously he got away withmaybe a few and that got flushed
through, and then, yeah, andeventually they actually came in
and opened up the pipes, andthen that's when they found all
these bodies.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Well, they said he's victims between 12 and 15
victims.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And again, all gay guys, yeah,yeah.
So you, I know, we, we, we aredoing an lgbtq podcast as such.
You know, I mean it's not allabout no, no, exactly, because I
mean I've got other, I've gotother um serial killers like
fred and rosemary west.
I mean you've obviously heardfrom them, haven't you?
I don't think I have spoken toyou about it.
There's a netflix um series atthe moment covering them.
(17:37):
So they were basically husbandand wife in the uk and rosemary
west was fred west's second wifeand, uh, basically fred had had
like multiple kids and I thinkeven had a couple with her as
well, and he was basically umconvicted of murdering I think
(17:58):
about eight women and of whichtwo of them were his own
daughters, oh, and they foundone of them underneath the
floorboards in the house and theother one was in the wall.
So he'd actually pretty muchcemented his own daughter into
the wall and he was abusing them.
So he was basically having sexwith them, he was having nannies
over and then he was killingthem as well.
(18:19):
And his um, his wife rosemaryshe was also subjecting to the
um, the raping and um assault onthe girls as well.
Okay, even though she didn'ttechnically kill them, she was
an accessory to the crime, yeah,and she didn't report it and
she obviously had, because shewas almost like a lesbian as
(18:40):
well.
And if you look at pictures ofher and she's still alive at the
moment, because fred west tookhis life in prison literally
about a year or so after he wentto jail, but with rose, when
she's still alive and, yeah, ifyou look at her, she looks like
a typical, I would say, a verybutch looking lesbian you know I
mean.
So I think she was doing it forher gratification and obviously
(19:02):
to stop the you know, stop themfrom reporting the actual crimes
.
Then I think fred just killedthem.
I think, um, so very, very sad.
I remember hitting the news.
I was in my teens at that time,so you're talking like the late
80s, mid to late 80s when ithappened.
Um, but yeah, it's, it'shorrific when you can be living
next to somebody and not evenknow that that's happening, you
(19:23):
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, well, but, like I said, we could have serial
killers amongst us.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
We don't know that Exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
We don't know that, like you really don't know
people, because a lot of thetimes and I know with Jeffrey
Dahmer they said, oh, he wassuch a nice boy, he was so
polite, he was so kind, allthose kind of things, so he
wasn't sort of a fucked up kidor anything like that.
(19:50):
So they Well, no.
He?
I think no, there was.
Them was stuff that came outsaying that he used to torture
animals when he was younger.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And again, that's where it starts.
It starts when people startmutilating animals.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
But initially his parents all said, oh, he was a
nice boy.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Like he used to sort of All that kind of stuff.
But ticking in the backgroundwas something going more and
more, something deeper obviously.
But yeah, so you've also gotlike past ones, like the Krays.
You've heard of the Krays,ronnie and Reggie Kray.
They were again in London.
They were back in the 1950s,60s era I think it was 60s and
(20:31):
they were gangster murderers andthey would cut people's ears
off and then mutilate them firstof all, to the point where they
would then go on and kill themproperly.
So it was more gangster-relatedmurdering, okay, but again they
were classified as serialkillers because they killed
multiple people, you know.
Then you've got the people likethe Menendez brothers who we
(20:51):
just watched that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, we watched that not long ago, didn't we?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, but one of them was gay Because that we watched
that not long ago, didn't we?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
but they one of them was gay, because that was set in
the 70s, 80s, wasn't it butthey killed their parents.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, basically, well , I mean you know, if you watch
if you want yeah, exactly, ifyou watch the thing, I mean
there's there's a retrial goingon at the moment.
Isn't it trying to get themfreed?
Yeah, saying that they didn'tkill them out of spite, or they
didn't kill them.
I think they were provoking tokilling them.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I think what they were trying to say well, they
basically were trying, I thinkwhat their argument was that
they had a fucked up childhoodthat was basically all because
of their father and all thatkind of stuff.
So it was just like, yeah, itwas a bit messy, yeah.
But then you've got like stevenport, who's also from the uk.
Now he's got four confirmedvictims, but more.
(21:36):
He's probably our most recentone on my list, yeah yeah
exactly, and he was called thegrinder killer Yep.
He lured men in via dating appsand he drugged them with GHB,
which is obviously a legal drug,staged their deaths to look
like overdoses.
Yep and four possibly more.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, but it does say on mine.
He said that there could bepossibly 58 other people that um
, and this is like 2014, 2015this happened very recently.
So this is recently.
Yeah.
I mean, when you got dennisnielsen, when I mentioned it, he
was 1983, so you're talkinglike a decade two decades before
, um, but you know they've saidthat this guy paul stevens.
(22:18):
Is it paul stevens?
uh steven paul yeah, um, heburied his victims like 500
meters away from his house inthe shallow grave.
I mean, it's like you don'teven go that far out of your way
to to just go, you know, todisguise what you've done.
You know.
I mean, yeah, you just.
But could you imagine if theyfound 58 more people?
That's, that's horrific.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
That's horrific, and this is the thing is.
I mean, you look at a lot ofserial killers and I guess
that's why they're called serialkillers, because they've
murdered multiple people.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Well, I've actually Googled what makes serial
killers tick.
Yeah, and this is on GoogleWikipedia thing.
It says serial killers areoften driven by a complex
mixture of psychological factors, often including desire for
power, control and the thrillfrom act of killing.
They may exhibit traits ofpsychopathies.
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Psychopathy, a psychopathy Ican't say the word properly well
you can't yeah yeah, um, suchas lack of empathy and remorse,
and can be highly organized andmanipulative.
Some serial killers also havespecific motives, like financial
gains, revenge or sexualgratification, which become
intertwined in their desire tokill.
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So many serial killers exhibitpsychopathic traits, including
the lack of empathy, remorse andguilt, combined with the
manipulative and egotisticalpersonality type.
So that's one type.
The desire for control is theact of empathy, remorse and
guilt, combined with themanipulative and egotistical
personality type.
So that's one type.
The desire for control is theact of trying to kill someone in
a way a serial killer to asserta control over the victim
itself and their own lives,especially if they feel
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powerless in other areas.
So you know, to basicallycompensate for their own lack of
power.
They then kill someone to makethem more powerful, if that
makes sense.
Yep, thrill-seeking.
Some killers are motivated bythe excitement and the arousal
of experience from the act ofsexual gratification and murder
in itself.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
See, I'd just rather have the sex part.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, I know, but some people have.
Necrophilia is quite big on, Iknow, but some of them do, some
of them kill when people don'treact well.
Jeffrey dharma was having sexwith, like some of his victims,
really, he was he was, but andthen also it goes on to other
contributing factors likechildhood trauma and I think
this is where jeffrey dharma hadthat, that moment where he was
abused by his father, yeah, andbasically experiences like abuse
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, neglect, exposure to violencein the childhood environment can
contribute to the developmentof violent tendencies towards
individuals.
Mental illness again, which isagain is becoming more and more
apparent, yeah, um, while notall serial killers are mentally
ill, some may have underlyingmental health issues and
conditions which influence theirbehavior, like schizophrenia
and stuff like that.
Yeah, and then the socialenvironment factors as well.
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If there's social isolation,lack of opportunity to expose to
violence in the community, canalso play a role in some cases
as well.
But it says here it's importantto note that it's critical to
remember that serial killers isa complex phenomenon, phenomenon
right.
Sorry, I kind of said that witha man yeah, that's the
oneomenon with no single cause.
A combination of psychological,social and environmental
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factors can often contribute tothe development of a serial
killer.
So that is what they sort ofanalyzed from what makes a
serial killer tick and what isthe background to people doing
these sort of crimes?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
yeah, and I guess you don't know like you could turn,
like I have definitely had notserial killer thoughts, but
times where I actually really dobelieve that I potentially
could kill someone.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
This is where I was going to ask you.
I was going to say to you, ifyou could this is hypothetical,
I know you would never do it andeverything else, but do you
know?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
yeah I know, I do know you, I know you enough if
I'm not everything else, but doyou know?
Yeah, I know, I do know you, Iknow you enough if I'm not here
next week.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Guys, you know what's happened, um, and yeah, if you
obviously, if you obviouslymushroom wellington beef, then
obviously I might be the beef,um, but no, um, it might be that
I know it's interesting to knowmushroom can't say things like
that no, he was the mushroom.
He had the mushroom head whatlike a fun guy to be around um
what?
I was gonna say, um, yeah, so ifyou had the opportunity to kill
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someone, yeah, and this is oneof the questions that danny boy
asked if I had, if you had apower that you could kill
someone, yeah, how would you doit?
And what would you be doing tocover up your crime?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
well, um now, obviously this is all
hypothetical, because I've neverdone this.
Just based off what?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
you've watched?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
um.
So I used to watch csireligiously right now I don't
think I would get away with itbecause I'm also I'm extremely
good looking.
For those of you who have seenmy photos Jeff and I are looking
.
I'm way better looking thanJeff right, I'm quite charming
and all that kind of stuff.
You've got the egotisticalthings.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, oh shit, fuck, I have too.
I'm ticking some boxes on thatas well.
Look at these traits as they'regoing along, guys.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yep, I would.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I think You've got too much empathy, haven't you?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Not really.
No, you have.
No, I don't think so.
I could definitely kill someone.
I really think I could, no youcouldn't.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I could, I couldn't kill someone you couldn't.
As much as I would love to killDougie in my head, I wouldn't
be able to do it.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
No, I wouldn't want to stab someone because I don't
want to cause people pain, so Ithink it would be like a
sleeping tablet or somethinglike that.
I'd actually give them mixedinto their food, or maybe some
mushrooms or gas them no, no,the gassing, because I could
worry about them choking and allthat kind of stuff and hearing
the noises right injecting withsomething yeah, probably
something like that.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I'd probably inject sleeping drug and then just
overdose them on.
Yeah, and, but they'd have togo nice and calmly like this,
this, this talk about this nowbrings brings up that that the
whole nurse things you know thatnurses, that, that nurse in the
uk she was like going in andkilling people in hospital yeah,
but there was also, I rememberthe other one that was actually
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I think she's only just beencharged, I don't know where it
was reading it she was actuallykilling babies.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, as well, and like yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
But, like I said, overdosing them.
You know, giving theminjections and overdosing them.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
And the mother came in and basically stood over her
and said, what are you doing?
And she turned around and shewas like, oh, nothing, nothing.
And luckily, the mother thensaid that the baby was
struggling and so like, and shewas like I think they were
preemie babies or something likethat.
So they basically called anurse and everything like that.
And yeah, she's just beencharged as well, I believe as
well.
Um, so, so, yeah, some fuckedup people, but I think, uh, and
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if I was going to kill, I'd killsomebody that wasn't worthy of
being on the planet right now.
I have had this campaign, sowould this be like a revenge
thing?
No, okay, no, no, I've had acampaign.
Remember that when I said, ifI'm ever president, one of my
campaign promises would be oneof my thing country living in.
I'm gonna be, I'm making my owncountry.
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We know that.
All right, the country of matt,right?
Um, so we, um, I would be anadvocate for you're allowed to
kill one person in your lifetime, right, with no recourse
whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
All right, so you're still allowed to pick, but you
still have to go through theprocess of, like disposing the
body and hiding the crime no,not necessarily.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
You wouldn't have to hide the crime because you're
allowed to do it so you couldjust go and point to someone,
and there was caveats.
So you had to be over 21 yearsold to actually commit the crime
and basically, yeah, and thatwas it, but you're only allowed
to ever have one Sounds like agame of Cluedo to me.
You're only allowed to have one.
So, yeah, what do you do itwith?
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What would I do it with?
Well, I don't know, I'd justlike disintegrate them or
something like that.
I have a magic gun, a ray gunthat went and they were gone
forever.
How does it go?
Yeah, forever.
How's it going?
Yeah, yeah, but yeah.
So, yeah, I could.
I think I could Don't give thispodcast to the police.
All right, I'm not about tokill anyone.
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I don't hate anyone.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And you've never killed anyone.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
No, I don't hate anyone, I just like a couple of
people Hate's a horrible wordHate's such a shit word Like
yeah, so I don't have hate forhim, I don't forget, this was my
question to you, justhypothetically.
So who would you kill?
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Well.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Dougie, no, not Dougie.
Dougie's a poor little prick,he's an angry little man.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I wouldn't kill anyone.
You wouldn't kill him.
I wouldn't kill anyone.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Okay, hypothetically, if you were going to.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Oh okay.
How would it be Okay if have tobe a dictator from a country
you know?
Speaker 1 (30:45):
yeah, oh, because you've just done some past life
stuff, so would it be somebodyfrom the past?
We're gonna do a podcast onthat as well, which is gonna be
really, really cool.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I'm looking forward to doing that.
I know you will.
Yeah, oh, it's been fun.
That's another thing I've beendoing all week as well.
I know you have chat.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Gbt is consuming dave .
Um, all right, so who?
How would you kill?
Would you kill somebody from apast life or from?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
a future, oh no, from this life, from this life Well,
there's a lot of dictators outthere.
I'd love to take out.
Okay, I would love to take out,like the North Korean dictator
Kim Jong-un, un, un.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, now you're going to get us cancelled
because he listens to this.
I know, but anyway.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Would you have someone in North korea that
listens?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
to this?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
we do maybe you might take him out for us.
Hello, that's really shit.
Sorry, I apologize, sorry, um,do it again.
Do it again.
No, I will not, don't look.
No, this again.
I mean I, I just I just have adislike to dictatorships and I
think you know anybody that is adictator, which is quite a few,
a few of them, don't say the Cword.
No suppression.
When the masses are heldaccountable by one person and
it's their desire to controlthem all, that's when I think
okay, fuck you.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I might go with that, as long as I'm the one that's
controlling everyone.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Look, I'd like actually to do to them what they
do to others, like a firingsquad or something like that.
That'd be cool.
I'd like to see them all linedup on a fence line and just
being instantly killed together.
That'd be awesome.
Or tie them all up and makethem look like like he's gone
from killing no one because he'sgot too much energy to killing
all of them but you could tiethem up and put, make them look
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like drag artists and then killthem hang on, why.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Why would you put them in drag?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
no, no to offend to offend them, because that's what
they do.
They persecute the people.
Oh, okay, okay, you make themdo what they.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Let's say, let's say, dress them as the thing that
they like, they hate the mostexactly, okay, okay, yeah yeah,
okay, not as drag artists,because they might like drag
yeah but yeah, um, so yeah, um,but yeah, okay.
So any other serial killer chat?
Not really.
I think we covered most of it.
John Wayne Dacey was apparentlya cross-dresser.
Who John Wayne Dacey?
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Who the fuck was John WayneDacey?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
He wasn't a country boy.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
No, no, no, he was awesome.
Like he was not awesome Again,he wasn't a gay serial killer,
but apparently he was across-dresser.
So yeah, oh, dresser, um.
So yeah, oh, they had.
Oh, ivan millet, we didn't talkabout ivan.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
No, he killed quite a few people.
He was from australia.
Has he died now?
I think he died recently.
I don't know, um, but um, whatwas gonna?
Oh, there's one more I wasgonna say.
Then we said that I forgot.
Oh, the guy from canada.
There was a the the basecommander of the air force in
toronto, right?
So he was the actual basecommander, yeah, and he had a
fascination for women'sunderwear and he liked dressing
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up in women's underwear and hewould go.
He was actually nicknamed thepanty thief okay and he would go
around and steal women'sclothes off the line, but he got
to the point where he was thenwanting to dress up in those,
those knickers and bras andeverything else, to the point
where he then actually ended upkilling two victims, which were
two of them were members of hisown staff members Okay, so he
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stalked them, gone to theirhouse and then basically Stole
their knickers and fuckingkilled them, Stole knickers and
then killed them because theycame back or caught him in the
act and he's in jail now.
But to look at him, you knowhigh profile person, a pilot,
you know a station commanderwho's in charge of the whole
station, and yet you know hejust turned to that because of a
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fetish he had.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
There you go.
We can all turn in a second, wecan all right, absolutely so.
That concludes that little okay, serial killers, we hope you
enjoyed it.
Yeah, don't plan to kill us,please, no, but yeah, all right.
Now on to our next segment.
Dave, we need to do what DennyBoy does.
He's created little jingles forevery segment.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Well, we can do that.
We can and we might just dothat because I'm stuck on
ChattyPT and also making musicon sonar and we've got two, four
more new.
Oh, we've got four new tracksout.
Yep, yeah, we'll plug them in asecond.
Is that spotify?
Yep, yep, yep, yep, um, yeah,so yeah, I think we should go on
to our pet peeves, let's do petpeeves and ics all right, let's
talk about it.
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Let you go first mr rant, can I,can, I, can I?
Again, it's all noise relatedwith me, I fucking hate.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
That's unusual.
Do you know what I'm getting?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
some hearing aids just to turn it down.
Do you know what?
I just can't stand fuckingnoisy things, and my pet peeve
this week is fucking pokeymachines.
Why the fuck do you have tohave a pokey machine?
That is fucking so loud thatthe person sitting on it is just
looking at the machine and it'sgoing ding, ding, ding, ding,
ding, ding ding.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
And.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I'm thinking turn your fucking machine right, the
fuck down.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I get your pain.
You do, right, I really do, andI understand it, because when
we're sitting there playing thepokies or whatever, you can hear
it so fucking loud and there isa volume button, right.
But you've got to look at thedemographic of the people that
are playing it, and they'reabout 90, they do have hearing
aids to what they're not wearing, so they're not hearing it
(35:52):
right.
So it should be up to the staffto go and give them a tap on
the shoulder and say, hey,dickhead, let me adjust that
volume for you.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Well, I'm actually contemplating even maybe making
a formal complaint to the cluband also saying that my ears are
now being traumatised.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Well, they'll tell you to wear headphones and wear
earplugs.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Well, they can pay for them, then can't they.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I'll give you some earplugs.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I'm sure Mrs Brown's still got some in her bag from
when I gave her to go overcountry.
Yeah, yes.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, I do get it, though it is really annoying.
It's again.
I go straight, literally,because I'm going to win every
single time.
Obviously I go straight awayand I just turn the volume down
as soon as I get on the machine.
Then when you win, you juststart screaming at me, Then I go
yay, I win again.
But yeah, yeah, and you're goodat doing that.
I'm good at doing that, you are, I'm very successful.
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But anyway, what's your peeve?
One of my first pet peeves isone-upping somebody in a
conversation.
Who One-upping somebody in aconversation?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
So when and I know people that do this frequently.
So if I say, oh, I'm really notfeeling well this week, I'm a
bit off, I've got a bit of asniffle- so they're putting it
back on themselves?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
you mean no?
Speaker 1 (37:07):
no.
Then they turn around and go ohyeah, I've got a cold, I've got
a flu plus my shoulder's aching, and you go.
It's not a competition rightRight.
Or if you sit there and you goI worked really good today Like
you're just sitting there aroundwith friends having a chat,
you'll go I've been really good,I've been making sure they
clock up 10 000 steps every daytoday so they're trying to
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overdo your sympathy, oh I'm nowdoing 15 000 steps a day.
You sit there and go.
It's fucking annoying.
You don't have to be betterthan everyone, right?
You can just say well done tosome people, right?
You don't have to, because it'slike they're pulling the focus
from whatever it is, no, notyour sympathy, it's just from
whatever you're, if you'reactually saying it's an
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achievement that you've actuallymade, but then they've got to
be better again.
They've got to be better again.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
They've always got to have a.
It's outdoing you.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yeah, always got to outdo someone one-upping
somebody.
It sounds a bit rude that, butit sounds good.
It's rude, well, not puttingone up.
That's what it sounds like tome.
Trying to be better thaneveryone else, regardless of the
situation, because it can be anegative.
It can be like oh, my unclepassed away this week and it'll
be like oh, my uncle and my auntpassed away last week,
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especially when you brought theconversation up and they haven't
mentioned anything in there.
Yeah, they haven't.
It's a fucking grind in mygears.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
It's fucking grind my gears.
I probably didn't grind mine somuch, but I know what you're
saying.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
You wait, now that I've pointed it out, to you,
there's some people in ourcircle and you wait and see.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
What's the next one?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
My next one is people queuing on the wrong side of
the fucking ropes and shit likethat.
Now we got All you know is getto me.
Yeah well, it's even like lastnight.
Last night.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
We're in the club.
Let me state the scenario.
Go on then.
We're in the club.
There is a big rope right.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
They've got two registers.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
They put it out there , haven't they recently?
Yeah, you've got two registersright and you've got the
left-hand side and the righthand side right of the big rope.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Right now, the left hand side is where you're
supposed to.
This is basically the thebarista, the eatery right.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
The left hand side is where you're supposed to queue,
because that way everyone's inline.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
When you get to the front of the line, you either
veer off to whichever registeris available next yeah, right,
and the right is kept for peoplemoving back and forth, carrying
their food, carrying their foodfrom where they pick up.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, the server to their table To their tables and
stuff like that Right.
However, of late, these fuckingmorons have been queuing on the
right-hand side.
Right Left-hand side is emptyand the left-hand side is's
empty.
So when you pick up your food,you basically knock people as
you're walking past.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
You can't even get past the people, or you can't
even get past three abreast.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Excuse me excuse me, excuse me.
And you're sitting there andthinking it's really obvious,
it's really obvious that theyshould be queuing on that side
so what did we do last night?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
because it happened last night when we turned it,
didn't they?
There was all these people onthe left hand side, the right
hand side, sorry.
We got there so we thought, oh,we're going to kill the left
hand.
I'm not having this, but westood in the area where we were,
the same line as where theywere, so where there's finished.
We started on the right hand,left hand side and then what
happened?
Speaker 1 (40:18):
people then came on the fucking right hand side come
on the right hand side and thenthink they're jumping the gun
and I went no, no, I said you'resupposed to queue on this side.
That side's supposed to be leftopen so people can come back
with trays.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
And they looked at us and she looked at us and I said
yeah so you're behind us.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
She thought she was going to like stand up there and
jump in the front.
I said so you're behind us,right?
And so she sort of looked at mereally hesitantly and then did
it and lo and behold, right,right.
The queue then started formingon the correct side and made it
a lot easier for people to walkup when they were getting their
food.
And we went back later to getcoffee and we went back when we
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went to collect our food and itwas all still flowing the
correct way.
So we did a social justice yep,we were fucking.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
We're going there tonight and I guarantee you
we're heroes we're heroes.
We're gonna get there tonight.
You know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
We're local heroes is what's going to happen, and
then they're going to give usour award.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
But we're going to go .
We'll be telling you next weekwhether or not they're on the
right side of the game tonight,and I get that.
I bet they are.
Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yep and hoes.
It's the hoes.
They're actually having a bigchat.
They're talking about somethingI don't know.
I'm not actually listening,because we knew that it would be
britney um, but it was actuallymiami that started this
conversation right, so she'sback in there.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Actually, yes, I think they were on they don't
even know we're here.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
That's the thing.
Yeah, but they do secretly.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
It's funny, it's funny but yeah, um.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
So my next one are people that talk during movies,
right.
So if I'm going to watch amovie, right, I want to watch
the movie right now.
I'm not necessarily talkingabout people, I am talking about
I'm giving multiple.
I'm going to give you multiple,multiple scenarios here, all
right.
So the people that are talking,like another group of people
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that are talking during themovie, where you're sitting
there trying to watch the movie,that annoys me.
But then the one thing thateven annoys me more if somebody
is sitting next to me in themovie watching the same movie
I'm watching and saying what'shis role?
What's that happen?
What happened there?
What happened there?
Huh, how come that happenedthere?
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And I'm sitting there thinkingI'm watching the fucking movie
the same fucking time as you.
How would I know?
Right, I don't know any moreabout this movie than you, right
, and I'm not talking like okay,when we went and seen wicked.
Obviously, I know everythingabout wicked because I'm a big
gay man, right, and I lovemusicals, right.
But so I'm okay with peoplesaying who's that and what's
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that character?
Right, I can give them a littlebit of a summary, in that I
would much prefer you to do itprior to us walking into the
cinema.
Right, why is she green?
All that kind of stuff, ask me,ask me and I will Google it.
Or I don't know, ask Google.
But it really grinds my gears.
People sitting there explainingthe whole way through or trying
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to talk the whole way throughthe movie.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
And what about eating ?
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Eating.
I'm fine with the noise of the.
I can get past that.
I can get past that.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
We've got people on their phones Because I'm usually
the one.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Oh, I hate people on their phones in the movies.
I fucking hate it because itlights up the screen, right, and
they just.
I'm thinking to myself you'regoing to ask your friend, oh,
what did I miss?
Because you're busy on fuckingFacebook.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
But what happens if they're on Grindr and they're in
front of you?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Well, if they're hot, then we miss the movie together
.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
You move to the back, we go to the back and suck my
cockle and put my hand down mypopcorn box.
Your popcorn box.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah, but box, actually my balls are set.
Yeah, but yeah, there you go.
Yeah, so yeah, but yeah, sothat's my second one and go dave
, what's my last one is weatherforecasts.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Now, I don't know about you, but most of the time
weather forecasts are prettyaccurate.
I get that okay.
But every fucking now and thenthey'll say it's going to be
fucking raining, so you makearrangements, so it's going to
fucking pour down rain, and andyou get up, you've made
arrangements, you cancel things,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
and it's the fuckingbeautifulest, nicest, perfect
day ever.
And then, alternatively, theycan say, yeah, this is going to
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be fun, sunshine and fuckingbrilliant.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Rainbows and all that and you go out.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
And then it fucking hammers down.
Taking an umbrella, yeah, andthen your whole fucking day is
just a fucking disaster.
It's ruined.
It's ruined your haircut, sothat is a pet fucking peeve of
mine Get it fucking right.
You've got technology, You'vegot satellites.
You're paid a fortune to doweather fucking forecasting.
So get it right.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yeah, it's Steve Jacobs, it's on you, he used to
be a weatherman, did he?
Yeah, it was actually quite hot, yeah, okay, yeah, very hot.
And Sam Mack, I blame him.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Okay, well, I think they should just make the
weather like it's perfect allthe time, all year round, so it
rains at night when you'reasleep, and then it's bloody and
dry and just the righttemperature, like the Goldilocks
theory.
Okay, that would be brilliantwouldn't it?
Speaker 1 (45:01):
That would be perfect .
Speaker 2 (45:02):
That would be fucking amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Right, my last one Go on and I don't know I'm going
to have to start recording mypet peeves, because I don't know
whether I've talked about thisone.
But shopping trolleys in carparks right, Not in car parks
and such, but when they're leftin the parking bay right.
I think we did discuss thisother last week?
Speaker 2 (45:20):
No, I don't know, we already did it last week.
If we did the, we did the uhmaybe the show and I think we
were talking about this to him.
Maybe I don't know, I think,because it's sort of like I have
recollection.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah I have recollection, but it really does
get me when I'm going toreverse, or I drive up to a spot
because I reverse, park intoeverywhere, right, and then I
get there and I go fuckingtrolley in the way right and the
trolley bay two days up.
I think it was with danny boy,you're right, there was a
trolley bay two days up.
I'm sitting there and goinglike, oh, it's not okay, it's
(45:59):
not okay, I'm not happy about it.
It does my fucking head in umand and it's not that far.
It's not that far away.
Usually it's just got money.
It's not that far away usually.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
If it's got money in it, then I don't mind.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
You like it?
Yeah, you're fucking collectingthat, hey, it's worth doing.
No, no, find a penny, pick itup all the time it's two fucking
meters away.
And it's got fucking $2 in it.
I'm going to fucking get my $2worth.
It's when you.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
When you take it back and you realise there's no
fucking chain that's why theyhaven't taken it back Then you
get pissed off.
I've just put that back andsomeone else is going to take
that fucking $2 now, the fuckingfeeding bastard fuckers, even
though it wasn't mine anyway.
Yeah, it wasn't yours to startwith, but yeah, that's our
peeves.
All right, that's our petpeeves for the day, so we're
just going to released um checkout, check out.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
We've got four new songs available on itunes um all
streaming services, allstreaming services that you can
possibly imagine um, one of themis called welcome to the world.
I wrote that one around um.
It was about my new littleniece, a great niece, lakelyn
rose.
Absolutely adorable littlebundle of joy.
(47:06):
She's a sweetheart, so checkthat one out, it's really cool.
And then we've got one anotherone that Dave wrote and composed
, all with AI, right.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
But we put a lot of the work into it.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
We don't just say give us this song, we change the
lyrics, we tell it what stylewe want, what singers.
So there is some artistry to it.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah, because you can change any format.
So we come up with a conceptand you know, I sit down and
think of something and I evenwork out collaborations with
different people.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, because the title of this one is not
something that AI would havecreated, so the title is called
Unification of Humanity and it'sawesome and that's kind of that
when we, when we or when daveput that one together.
His vision for that waseurovision sort of style and I
had delta good room he wanteddelta good room to sort of to
voice it and stuff like that.
(47:58):
Um, with darren hayes someonelike darren hayes now it hasn't
come out like darren, but it hasdefinitely come out sounding
very similar to Delta.
But we'll use that as our trackfor this one when we upload it,
and I might even include it atthe end of the podcast.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
I like it.
It would have been a great song.
I think it would have been agood Eurovision song contest
entry, such a great song andobviously now Delta is talking
about doing it for.
Australia Eurovision yeah, Imean obviously we can't subject
that because we wouldn't be ableto do anyway, just meet the
practice.
But it's a good song and thenshe's listening, yeah, and she
wants to cover of it.
Then we'd be more than happyfor her to do that because it's
so good congratulations on yourwording um.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
You looked amazing um , so did your husband yeah, and
husband too, yeah, um, thenoutback boys, and I don't know
whether I wrote that one.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
No, I did that one, I did that one as well.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yeah, you dirty little fucker yeah, um, but it
was it was to do with you aswell.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Yeah, it was like.
You know, it's about gaycowboys.
Yeah, it was.
It was a bit like brokebackmountain, but not like yeah,
it's a cool track as well.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
It's nice to come up nicely and then funky little
secret, which was another onethat you did oh my god you do
hundreds.
Well, I have been busy, haven'tI?
Yeah, you do, but this one, Ilike this one a lot.
Funky, funky Little Secret isone of my favourite tracks so
far.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
It is, so it's really cool.
It's a George Michael sort oflike take on his coming out in
the yeah, it's like Funky LittleSecret.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Yeah, it's good, but it's really cool, yeah, really
cool.
So jump onto your favouritestreaming service, like whether
it's iTunes or Spotify, checkthem all out and we've got a few
more coming out.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
I've been playing around.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
We've got lots more coming.
We've got a few dances comingthrough.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yeah, abba style ones .
I love the Abba style oneswe've done.
You're such a homo, I knowright.
Yeah, I just love that genreit's really cool.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
But yeah, check us out no-transcript.
(49:56):
We'll have three, four albumsout already between our catalog
of podcasts and music we shouldkeep your ears we should keep
your ears really, well and trulywe can, we can actually start
looking at merchandise.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
I'm joking, I'm joking.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
I'm joking yeah, because I make so much money
from this podcast?
Well, zero dollars, but we haveso much fun.
Yes, we do.
But yeah, all right.
So that's been us.
I've been Matt and I've beenDave, as usual, and we've been
your fully grown homos and wewill talk to you soon.
Bye, that's a wrap from us.
(50:30):
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Fully Grown Homos Podcast.
Welcome to Fully Grown Homos, a podcast about our
adventures as fully grown homosnavigating today's world full
of inquisitive friends,questions about gay life and the
unexplored activities of a lifelived as fully grown homos.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
We'll discuss the gay 101s, sex sexuality and topics
we don't even know yet, as wewant your input into what you
want to hear.
Nothing is off limits, so emailus on the Fully Grown Homos
podcast at gmailcom or messageany of our socials.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Fully Grown Homos with Dave and Matt.
(00:56):
On today's episode, we're goingto dive into the deep, dark,
mysterious or Mysterious or darkmysterious world of serial
killers.
Now let me just put adisclaimer out there.
We do not find serial killersamusing, or we do not want to
(01:25):
portray them as something likeheroes or anything like that um,
we um.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Well, explain why.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Explain why we brought the podcast because we
feel for the victims, yep of theof the serial killers, and this
is why we're talking about it,um, but we, I'm also really
intrigued by it.
But before we get into that,let's do a little wrap-up of
last week, dave, because we'vehad a busy week.
(01:47):
Well, busier, our weeks arealways fucking busy.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well, we have, yeah, always, always busy.
Yeah, well, we've done thingsthis week anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
We certainly have done things, and some people
Done things and people andpeople have done us.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, we've had a bit of a fun variety week.
We've had a very good week andsome people Done things and
people and people have done us.
Yeah, again and again, bit of afun variety week.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
We've had a very good week, a very good week.
So where do we want to start?
At the very beginning, becauseit's a very good place to start.
Go on then.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
You sing the song and I'll do it.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Let's start at the very beginning.
It's a very good place to startsaying anymore, yeah okay, um,
that's from sound of music, justin case you didn't recognize it
.
Um, yeah, all right.
Um, so we on saturday, we allwe got it.
So we've got a fellow podcasterwho reached out to us when he
was basically um setting up hispodcast and because we'd like
(02:41):
this show and things like well,he'd like ours, and he said he'd
love to have us on.
Now he does a question andanswer style podcast.
His name is danny boy andthat's it.
That, or his name is danny.
These podcasts is the danny boyshow and, um, it's, I think,
only up to episode two.
I've only listened to episodeone.
So far he's done more, but hehasn't done he hasn't downloaded
(03:01):
um, but he reached out to usand asked us we would love to go
on his, whether we would liketo go on his show, and we said,
of course we would.
We'd love to um.
We finally worked out how to doit and, as a result, we will be
guests on his podcast in whenhe, when he publishes, yeah,
yeah, he's he's got a quite afew in the bank already, um, but
(03:24):
he said we were way better thanany of them.
I'm joking, he didn't say thatto the other guests, he just
said that we were way handsomer.
Oh no, hang on.
He didn't say that either, butwe said that we're handsome but
we're going to be on his show.
It was a great fun experienceit was.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
We chatted for a long time before we even hit record
we need to get to know himbecause I mean, I've never
spoken to him.
You've correlated with him,yeah, just a little bit
communicated.
Sorry, um, but yeah, it wasgood to actually to have a good
conversation prior to that andhe's, he's, he's got a very good
voice on him.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Yeah, he sounds great and he's a good looking guy as
well.
He is a bit hot, yeah, I like.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I like it with his mo .
He does a little mo.
I like it with his beard, but Ithink his mo suits him even
better.
It makes him even more sort oflike Take that for a ride.
Yeah, absolutely so we wereperving on you, Danny, when we
were doing this show.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, we were, but it was really fun.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It was actually fun to do because we've podcast
before, so he took our cherry,he did um and um and it was a
lot of fun.
He made it really simple,really easy, but it's a very
clever concept.
Yeah, I think questions andanswers what he's on to is good.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Yeah it's good and, as I said, he he sort of he'd
reached out previously and saidto me um, how low can it go?
And I said, mate, take it tothe gutter, I'm there, I'm there
, for anyone that's listening tothis podcast knows that I'm
down in the gutter.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
I mean I reckon we could definitely do another
segment with him again.
Yeah, you know, and I think, asI said to him afterwards, I
think what he's got is quitegood in terms of, like, if he
was to go out to a club or a pubor something like that and they
had like an introduction,intermittent sorry session
between like a raffle andsomething else, I mean he could
get on the mic and he couldactually get all these tables.
(05:09):
Yeah, he'd be great because A,he's got the voice for it, he's
got the looks and I think he'sgot the personality to match it
all.
So you know, so, yeah, so, ifyou haven't listened to Danny
Boy, go on his.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, jump on, listen to Danny Boy podcast.
You can find it wherever youdownload your favourite podcasts
, obviously.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
And yeah, check him out because he's a handsome
fella as well, which weappreciate.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Now on to another handsome fella, that we met Clay
.
We met Clay.
We met him at church a coupleof weeks ago, caught up with him
and had quite a fun day thatday at church.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
We've met him twice, haven't we?
We over the time, um, andbasically every time we caught
up with him, we've had good fun,we had lots of fun.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
It was, it was, it was, it was hot sessions.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
But he's a nice guy.
Yeah, he's a really nice guy.
He's the same age as me.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Yeah, age, yep same born 71 um and he's got a very
interesting story as well.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
He's very similar to me.
He was married and has gotchildren.
Yep Came out later in life and,yeah, he's still navigating the
actual gay world, the worldthat we live in.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yeah, the odd, strange gay world that we live
in.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
But he's just such an easygoing guy, such a very
engageable guy, very funny, yep,very funny.
Handsome man as well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I was extremely amused because I love my banter.
I like having a joke aroundwith people and things like that
.
We were sitting at one of ourlittle cafes that we go to
Nadia's Nadia's is called thecafe and the first waitress came
up and he looked at her with aserious face.
He said, oh, excuse me, are youNadia?
(06:47):
And she looked and she went no,no, no.
And he's gone.
Well, who's Nadia?
And she's gone.
Oh, that's just the name of thecafe.
And then literally the nextthing, another girl comes up to
deliver her coffee and he didexactly the same thing.
By this stage I'm having agiggle, which is funny.
(07:12):
But then the third girl came upto deliver our food.
She's quite younger, reallyyoung, right, probably 17, 18,
if, if that.
And he said to her are younadia, right?
And she gave some sass and Isat there and I'm going, oh my
god, this is great right, andthey were just volleying, so it
was really really what was herresponse to that question when
he asked her well, she said I'mway too young to be called nadia
(07:33):
.
She's do I look like?
Do I look like a nadia?
Or something like that.
I'm too young to be called anadia.
Um, so it was like.
It was like.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Then it was, it was volleying and it was fun, but he
just did it to everybody and wehad like multiple staff members
that came over to our table.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
And then when we went to pay at the end there was a
young guy at the counter and hewent Are you Nadia?
By that time, so by that timeeveryone had gotten in on it,
Like literally every person thelady that does the barista, kim,
the lady that does the barista.
She's basically in on it andshe's like awesome.
We know her very well becausewe're there.
(08:09):
They do good coffee and goodfood there.
So we've had many chats withher and she's basically sitting
there and I go guess my name I'mnot Nadia, but guess my name
and we're sitting there andwe're trying to work it out and
she says all right.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
It's three, it's two words.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's two words, and so it can be two words, and
we're all trying to sit thereand we're going Kellyanne,
kylie-anne, melissa-anne, karen,karen, and like she took
advantage of that, yeah, but itwas fun.
It was fun, but he's a hot,sexy guy as well.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
So, yep, we had lots of fun on the Friday night here
in my place you more so, becauseI went home and then I came
back on the Saturday morning heattacked me.
Yeah, and I came back on theSaturday morning and he was
still attacking you yep had somemore fun.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
we went out for the break-in, did all that kind of
stuff as well.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Then we had more fun again.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Had more fun and more fun and more fun.
So we'll catch up with himagain very soon.
So yeah, it was lots and lotsof fun.
What's better than two?
Three, what's better than three?
Four?
What's better than four?
Five?
Any holes?
A hole?
Oh no, not just like that.
(09:20):
There can't be any holes a goal.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
But, um, sex is fun, it is, and it's meant to be fun,
it is.
And, and when you've got peoplethat connect and they can make
it work, it's even better yeah,but the conversation and and the
their friendships are alwaysgood as well.
So hopefully we'll be catchingup with clay again, um, and
maybe this week, maybe next weekfor definite, I reckon, um.
But yeah, I mean in themeantime.
Apart from that, I made moreprogress on the house.
So the house inside is probablyabout 98 done now, matt, um and
(09:46):
uh, basically the outside'sgetting progress now.
So the top half of the weatherboard has all been done.
Yep, um, had the brick workdone.
I've got to wait for therenders to come in two weeks
time.
Um, the front lawn area isleveled off and the and the
retaining walls now in place.
We've got to demolish thecarport next week and then dig
(10:07):
up the old driveway ready to laya new driveway um and then full
steam ahead.
It is, it is and it's gettingexciting, but at the same time,
with with that comes the cost ofpaying everything off and the
more stress and everything elsethat goes with it.
Yeah, um, but again I've got todeal with that as it goes along
.
Um, but otherwise, yeah, it'sbeen good.
(10:28):
Um went to the club this weekand I I won on wednesday night.
Yeah, you did, you did so, yeah, so that was really good and,
um, yeah, so that's our week.
Pretty much it's been good.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's been a good week .
Now let's get dark, deep.
Let's get deep.
Let's get mysterious.
Let's talk about serial killers.
Yep, so we've done someGoogling.
Obviously, I love a serialkiller podcast.
I like True Crime myself and Ikiller podcast.
(11:00):
I like true crime myself.
Um, and I'm listening toshandy's story at the moment,
which is about a, an australian,young australian girl from um,
north queensland, who was, um,basically stabbed a number of
times.
I'm not at the end yet, so Idon't know how it ends, but her
main suspect is her umex-boyfriend, um, but again, I'm
not sure whether he's done it.
I have my own opinion,obviously, but I've got to wait
till the end of the podcast.
How can these people find out?
(11:20):
this Is it on a podcast yeah,shandy's story, shandy's story,
and it flows into Shandy'slegacy.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And how did you find out about?
Speaker 1 (11:29):
this, I don't know, it's because I was listening to
another one called Bronwyn,which was about Not relating to
anybody we know.
No, not relating to anybody weknow.
No, not relating to anyone weknow.
And it was again about herpartner that they believe killed
her as well, but her body hasnever been found, and things
like that as well.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
That's currently on hiatus.
I think that's still waiting tobe wrapped up as well, for that
one as well.
Okay, yeah, so many interestingthings about serial killers.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
well, the whole, the whole purpose of this, this,
this whole segment today wasbrought up because of this, this
one that's in the current umnews, with us at the.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Moment.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, and that was with erin patterson, erin
patterson the mushroom killer,yeah the chef that killed all
her family.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
She had a dinner party and killed her friends.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
But it's bizarre, Like you said.
I mean, you don't have to belike your typical stereotypical
serial killer, the ones that wesee as really psychopathic, you
know.
In that regard, I mean, she'sgot to be psychopathic to some
degree, I suppose, if you wantto do it.
But she just came across aslike a normal mother would be.
But, you just don't know what'slurking behind those eyes.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
You don't know, do you, dave?
You don't know who could be aserial killer, isn't that, right
, matt?
It could be one sittingstraight across from you.
Yeah, who knows?
Yeah, it could be.
But I want to touch on a coupleof them, right, you don't want?
Speaker 2 (12:50):
to touch them.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
You just want to touch on them, true, all right.
So oh, you would do.
Right, I have a crush.
All right.
Now again his victims.
He had 17 victims.
Right, he was known as amilwaukee.
They've got at least as amilwaukee cannibal, but I'm sure
it was a milwaukee milwaukeemurderer.
Right, doesn't matter either.
(13:12):
He's from wisconsin, um in theus of a he was.
He's no longer alive.
No, he's no longer alive.
I don't get a chance to datehim ever, um, which is probably
a good thing because I stayalive.
Then, um, but he used to lureyoung men from gay bars often
and killed them and committedacts of necrophilia and
cannibalism on cannibalism onthem.
(13:33):
Jeffrey dharma, yeah, now hewas hot, right in my opinion.
I used to find him extremelyattractive, right.
I also watched, um a show wherethey had darren chris portray
him, um, and he was great.
You know, I'm sure darren chris.
I think so.
I think it was pretty sure itwas.
(13:54):
I think so, um, but he wasjeffrey dharma, literally,
because I was in my youth, whenhe was basically active between
1978 and 1991.
So then you're slightly olderthan what we would have been.
No, that was.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
That was when he was born, that's when he was active
yeah, but that's what I'm saying, so I think he was a little bit
older.
He was only in his 20s, yeah,when he started.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah um, so, so, 1991 sort of thing.
So I would have definitely beenin my prime and my hormones
would have been running wild,yep.
And I just remember reading hisbooks, or yeah, because I
didn't have audio books backthen so I would have had to read
stuff about him.
Oh, wow, right, and beingreally interested in his murders
and what they were happening.
Obviously, being a young gayman at that time, I was thinking
(14:37):
, fuck, this could actuallyhappen to.
This could have happened toanyone.
It still can it still can itstill does.
Well, it still does.
There was those guys that wereluring people in from Grindr and
beating the shit out of themand robbing them recently.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
So be careful out there, boys yeah definitely, but
Jeffrey Dahmer is like he's.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
When I asked ChatGBT to give me a list of gay serial
killers, he basically gave me hecame top of the list.
Now he isn't the one that'smurdered most people, right that
(15:20):
?
I guess that accolade I don'twant to say that because that's
really wrong goes to a guycalled Randy Craft and he was
active between 1970s to 1983.
That's 13 years, right, andhe's estimated killing between
16 and 67 people, right?
Wow?
He targeted young men, many ofwhom were US Marines.
The victims were drugged,tortured and mutilated.
(15:40):
So it's pretty fucked up.
I gotta say, yeah, prettyfucked up indeed, um, but yeah
who's that?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
well, I got one very similar from the uk, matt, which
was um, a guy called dennisnielsen and again a gay guy, and
he would lure people back fromLondon.
It seems like most of thepeople that commit these serial
killings are from London areaYep or UBIS.
Yeah, yeah.
So, capital cities, big capitalcities, and again, he would
(16:12):
lure people back to his houseand then basically drug them and
then basically mutilate them.
I think he had sex with themwhen they were dead and then he
would cut their bodies up.
And what he was doing he wasstuffing these bodies down the
drain, yeah, in his apartment.
And over time people startedcomplaining of the smell that
(16:33):
was coming from the apartment.
You know rotting flesh, as youwould imagine.
So there was.
I think the police had come outseveral times.
They hadn't charged him, theycouldn't find anything and they
didn't know what it was.
They thought maybe some animalhad died in the sewage and they
got the.
I think they got the plumbersor whatever, out the sewer.
People had to come and try andclear it all away and they
thought they had got rid of itand they thought they had got
(16:55):
rid of it, and then, obviously,this continued more and more.
So obviously he got away withmaybe a few and that got flushed
through, and then, yeah, andeventually they actually came in
and opened up the pipes, andthen that's when they found all
these bodies.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Well, they said he's victims between 12 and 15
victims.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And again, all gay guys, yeah,yeah.
So you, I know, we, we, we aredoing an lgbtq podcast as such.
You know, I mean it's not allabout no, no, exactly, because I
mean I've got other, I've gotother um serial killers like
fred and rosemary west.
I mean you've obviously heardfrom them, haven't you?
I don't think I have spoken toyou about it.
There's a netflix um series atthe moment covering them.
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So they were basically husbandand wife in the uk and rosemary
west was fred west's second wifeand, uh, basically fred had had
like multiple kids and I thinkeven had a couple with her as
well, and he was basically umconvicted of murdering I think
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about eight women and of whichtwo of them were his own
daughters, oh, and they foundone of them underneath the
floorboards in the house and theother one was in the wall.
So he'd actually pretty muchcemented his own daughter into
the wall and he was abusing them.
So he was basically having sexwith them, he was having nannies
over and then he was killingthem as well.
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And his um, his wife rosemaryshe was also subjecting to the
um, the raping and um assault onthe girls as well.
Okay, even though she didn'ttechnically kill them, she was
an accessory to the crime, yeah,and she didn't report it and
she obviously had, because shewas almost like a lesbian as
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well.
And if you look at pictures ofher and she's still alive at the
moment, because fred west tookhis life in prison literally
about a year or so after he wentto jail, but with rose, when
she's still alive and, yeah, ifyou look at her, she looks like
a typical, I would say, a verybutch looking lesbian you know I
mean.
So I think she was doing it forher gratification and obviously
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to stop the you know, stop themfrom reporting the actual crimes
.
Then I think fred just killedthem.
I think, um, so very, very sad.
I remember hitting the news.
I was in my teens at that time,so you're talking like the late
80s, mid to late 80s when ithappened.
Um, but yeah, it's, it'shorrific when you can be living
next to somebody and not evenknow that that's happening, you
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know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, well, but, like I said, we could have serial
killers amongst us.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
We don't know that Exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
We don't know that, like you really don't know
people, because a lot of thetimes and I know with Jeffrey
Dahmer they said, oh, he wassuch a nice boy, he was so
polite, he was so kind, allthose kind of things, so he
wasn't sort of a fucked up kidor anything like that.
(19:50):
So they Well, no.
He?
I think no, there was.
Them was stuff that came outsaying that he used to torture
animals when he was younger.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
And again, that's where it starts.
It starts when people startmutilating animals.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
But initially his parents all said, oh, he was a
nice boy.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Like he used to sort of All that kind of stuff.
But ticking in the backgroundwas something going more and
more, something deeper obviously.
But yeah, so you've also gotlike past ones, like the Krays.
You've heard of the Krays,ronnie and Reggie Kray.
They were again in London.
They were back in the 1950s,60s era I think it was 60s and
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they were gangster murderers andthey would cut people's ears
off and then mutilate them firstof all, to the point where they
would then go on and kill themproperly.
So it was more gangster-relatedmurdering, okay, but again they
were classified as serialkillers because they killed
multiple people, you know.
Then you've got the people likethe Menendez brothers who we
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just watched that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Yeah, we watched that not long ago, didn't we?
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, but one of them was gay Because that we watched
that not long ago, didn't we?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
but they one of them was gay, because that was set in
the 70s, 80s, wasn't it butthey killed their parents.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, basically, well , I mean you know, if you watch
if you want yeah, exactly, ifyou watch the thing, I mean
there's there's a retrial goingon at the moment.
Isn't it trying to get themfreed?
Yeah, saying that they didn'tkill them out of spite, or they
didn't kill them.
I think they were provoking tokilling them.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
I think what they were trying to say well, they
basically were trying, I thinkwhat their argument was that
they had a fucked up childhoodthat was basically all because
of their father and all thatkind of stuff.
So it was just like, yeah, itwas a bit messy, yeah.
But then you've got like stevenport, who's also from the uk.
Now he's got four confirmedvictims, but more.
(21:36):
He's probably our most recentone on my list, yeah yeah
exactly, and he was called thegrinder killer Yep.
He lured men in via dating appsand he drugged them with GHB,
which is obviously a legal drug,staged their deaths to look
like overdoses.
Yep and four possibly more.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, but it does say on mine.
He said that there could bepossibly 58 other people that um
, and this is like 2014, 2015this happened very recently.
So this is recently.
Yeah.
I mean, when you got dennisnielsen, when I mentioned it, he
was 1983, so you're talkinglike a decade two decades before
, um, but you know they've saidthat this guy paul stevens.
(22:18):
Is it paul stevens?
uh steven paul yeah, um, heburied his victims like 500
meters away from his house inthe shallow grave.
I mean, it's like you don'teven go that far out of your way
to to just go, you know, todisguise what you've done.
You know.
I mean, yeah, you just.
But could you imagine if theyfound 58 more people?
That's, that's horrific.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
That's horrific, and this is the thing is.
I mean, you look at a lot ofserial killers and I guess
that's why they're called serialkillers, because they've
murdered multiple people.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Well, I've actually Googled what makes serial
killers tick.
Yeah, and this is on GoogleWikipedia thing.
It says serial killers areoften driven by a complex
mixture of psychological factors, often including desire for
power, control and the thrillfrom act of killing.
They may exhibit traits ofpsychopathies.
(23:08):
Psychopathy, a psychopathy Ican't say the word properly well
you can't yeah yeah, um, suchas lack of empathy and remorse,
and can be highly organized andmanipulative.
Some serial killers also havespecific motives, like financial
gains, revenge or sexualgratification, which become
intertwined in their desire tokill.
(23:28):
So many serial killers exhibitpsychopathic traits, including
the lack of empathy, remorse andguilt, combined with the
manipulative and egotisticalpersonality type.
So that's one type.
The desire for control is theact of empathy, remorse and
guilt, combined with themanipulative and egotistical
personality type.
So that's one type.
The desire for control is theact of trying to kill someone in
a way a serial killer to asserta control over the victim
itself and their own lives,especially if they feel
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powerless in other areas.
So you know, to basicallycompensate for their own lack of
power.
They then kill someone to makethem more powerful, if that
makes sense.
Yep, thrill-seeking.
Some killers are motivated bythe excitement and the arousal
of experience from the act ofsexual gratification and murder
in itself.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
See, I'd just rather have the sex part.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Yeah, I know, but some people have.
Necrophilia is quite big on, Iknow, but some of them do, some
of them kill when people don'treact well.
Jeffrey dharma was having sexwith, like some of his victims,
really, he was he was, but andthen also it goes on to other
contributing factors likechildhood trauma and I think
this is where jeffrey dharma hadthat, that moment where he was
abused by his father, yeah, andbasically experiences like abuse
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, neglect, exposure to violencein the childhood environment can
contribute to the developmentof violent tendencies towards
individuals.
Mental illness again, which isagain is becoming more and more
apparent, yeah, um, while notall serial killers are mentally
ill, some may have underlyingmental health issues and
conditions which influence theirbehavior, like schizophrenia
and stuff like that.
Yeah, and then the socialenvironment factors as well.
(24:59):
If there's social isolation,lack of opportunity to expose to
violence in the community, canalso play a role in some cases
as well.
But it says here it's importantto note that it's critical to
remember that serial killers isa complex phenomenon, phenomenon
right.
Sorry, I kind of said that witha man yeah, that's the
oneomenon with no single cause.
A combination of psychological,social and environmental
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factors can often contribute tothe development of a serial
killer.
So that is what they sort ofanalyzed from what makes a
serial killer tick and what isthe background to people doing
these sort of crimes?
Speaker 1 (25:34):
yeah, and I guess you don't know like you could turn,
like I have definitely had notserial killer thoughts, but
times where I actually really dobelieve that I potentially
could kill someone.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
This is where I was going to ask you.
I was going to say to you, ifyou could this is hypothetical,
I know you would never do it andeverything else, but do you
know?
Speaker 1 (25:57):
yeah I know, I do know you, I know you enough if
I'm not everything else, but doyou know?
Yeah, I know, I do know you, Iknow you enough if I'm not here
next week.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Guys, you know what's happened, um, and yeah, if you
obviously, if you obviouslymushroom wellington beef, then
obviously I might be the beef,um, but no, um, it might be that
I know it's interesting to knowmushroom can't say things like
that no, he was the mushroom.
He had the mushroom head whatlike a fun guy to be around um
what?
I was gonna say, um, yeah, so ifyou had the opportunity to kill
(26:25):
someone, yeah, and this is oneof the questions that danny boy
asked if I had, if you had apower that you could kill
someone, yeah, how would you doit?
And what would you be doing tocover up your crime?
Speaker 1 (26:41):
well, um now, obviously this is all
hypothetical, because I've neverdone this.
Just based off what?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
you've watched?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
um.
So I used to watch csireligiously right now I don't
think I would get away with itbecause I'm also I'm extremely
good looking.
For those of you who have seenmy photos Jeff and I are looking
.
I'm way better looking thanJeff right, I'm quite charming
and all that kind of stuff.
You've got the egotisticalthings.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah, oh shit, fuck, I have too.
I'm ticking some boxes on thatas well.
Look at these traits as they'regoing along, guys.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yep, I would.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I think You've got too much empathy, haven't you?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Not really.
No, you have.
No, I don't think so.
I could definitely kill someone.
I really think I could, no youcouldn't.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I could, I couldn't kill someone you couldn't.
As much as I would love to killDougie in my head, I wouldn't
be able to do it.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
No, I wouldn't want to stab someone because I don't
want to cause people pain, so Ithink it would be like a
sleeping tablet or somethinglike that.
I'd actually give them mixedinto their food, or maybe some
mushrooms or gas them no, no,the gassing, because I could
worry about them choking and allthat kind of stuff and hearing
the noises right injecting withsomething yeah, probably
something like that.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I'd probably inject sleeping drug and then just
overdose them on.
Yeah, and, but they'd have togo nice and calmly like this,
this, this talk about this nowbrings brings up that that the
whole nurse things you know thatnurses, that, that nurse in the
uk she was like going in andkilling people in hospital yeah,
but there was also, I rememberthe other one that was actually
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I think she's only just beencharged, I don't know where it
was reading it she was actuallykilling babies.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yeah, as well, and like yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
But, like I said, overdosing them.
You know, giving theminjections and overdosing them.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
And the mother came in and basically stood over her
and said, what are you doing?
And she turned around and shewas like, oh, nothing, nothing.
And luckily, the mother thensaid that the baby was
struggling and so like, and shewas like I think they were
preemie babies or something likethat.
So they basically called anurse and everything like that.
And yeah, she's just beencharged as well, I believe as
well.
Um, so, so, yeah, some fuckedup people, but I think, uh, and
(28:49):
if I was going to kill, I'd killsomebody that wasn't worthy of
being on the planet right now.
I have had this campaign, sowould this be like a revenge
thing?
No, okay, no, no, I've had acampaign.
Remember that when I said, ifI'm ever president, one of my
campaign promises would be oneof my thing country living in.
I'm gonna be, I'm making my owncountry.
(29:10):
We know that.
All right, the country of matt,right?
Um, so we, um, I would be anadvocate for you're allowed to
kill one person in your lifetime, right, with no recourse
whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
All right, so you're still allowed to pick, but you
still have to go through theprocess of, like disposing the
body and hiding the crime no,not necessarily.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
You wouldn't have to hide the crime because you're
allowed to do it so you couldjust go and point to someone,
and there was caveats.
So you had to be over 21 yearsold to actually commit the crime
and basically, yeah, and thatwas it, but you're only allowed
to ever have one Sounds like agame of Cluedo to me.
You're only allowed to have one.
So, yeah, what do you do itwith?
(29:54):
What would I do it with?
Well, I don't know, I'd justlike disintegrate them or
something like that.
I have a magic gun, a ray gunthat went and they were gone
forever.
How does it go?
Yeah, forever.
How's it going?
Yeah, yeah, but yeah.
So, yeah, I could.
I think I could Don't give thispodcast to the police.
All right, I'm not about tokill anyone.
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I don't hate anyone.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And you've never killed anyone.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
No, I don't hate anyone, I just like a couple of
people Hate's a horrible wordHate's such a shit word Like
yeah, so I don't have hate forhim, I don't forget, this was my
question to you, justhypothetically.
So who would you kill?
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Well.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
Dougie, no, not Dougie.
Dougie's a poor little prick,he's an angry little man.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
I wouldn't kill anyone.
You wouldn't kill him.
I wouldn't kill anyone.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Okay, hypothetically, if you were going to.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Oh okay.
How would it be Okay if have tobe a dictator from a country
you know?
Speaker 1 (30:45):
yeah, oh, because you've just done some past life
stuff, so would it be somebodyfrom the past?
We're gonna do a podcast onthat as well, which is gonna be
really, really cool.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I'm looking forward to doing that.
I know you will.
Yeah, oh, it's been fun.
That's another thing I've beendoing all week as well.
I know you have chat.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Gbt is consuming dave .
Um, all right, so who?
How would you kill?
Would you kill somebody from apast life or from?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
a future, oh no, from this life, from this life Well,
there's a lot of dictators outthere.
I'd love to take out.
Okay, I would love to take out,like the North Korean dictator
Kim Jong-un, un, un.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, now you're going to get us cancelled
because he listens to this.
I know, but anyway.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Would you have someone in North korea that
listens?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
to this?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
we do maybe you might take him out for us.
Hello, that's really shit.
Sorry, I apologize, sorry, um,do it again.
Do it again.
No, I will not, don't look.
No, this again.
I mean I, I just I just have adislike to dictatorships and I
think you know anybody that is adictator, which is quite a few,
a few of them, don't say the Cword.
No suppression.
When the masses are heldaccountable by one person and
it's their desire to controlthem all, that's when I think
okay, fuck you.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
I might go with that, as long as I'm the one that's
controlling everyone.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Look, I'd like actually to do to them what they
do to others, like a firingsquad or something like that.
That'd be cool.
I'd like to see them all linedup on a fence line and just
being instantly killed together.
That'd be awesome.
Or tie them all up and makethem look like like he's gone
from killing no one because he'sgot too much energy to killing
all of them but you could tiethem up and put, make them look
(32:21):
like drag artists and then killthem hang on, why.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Why would you put them in drag?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
no, no to offend to offend them, because that's what
they do.
They persecute the people.
Oh, okay, okay, you make themdo what they.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Let's say, let's say, dress them as the thing that
they like, they hate the mostexactly, okay, okay, yeah yeah,
okay, not as drag artists,because they might like drag
yeah but yeah, um, so yeah, um,but yeah, okay.
So any other serial killer chat?
Not really.
I think we covered most of it.
John Wayne Dacey was apparentlya cross-dresser.
Who John Wayne Dacey?
(32:53):
Who the fuck was John WayneDacey?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
He wasn't a country boy.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
No, no, no, he was awesome.
Like he was not awesome Again,he wasn't a gay serial killer,
but apparently he was across-dresser.
So yeah, oh, dresser, um.
So yeah, oh, they had.
Oh, ivan millet, we didn't talkabout ivan.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
No, he killed quite a few people.
He was from australia.
Has he died now?
I think he died recently.
I don't know, um, but um, whatwas gonna?
Oh, there's one more I wasgonna say.
Then we said that I forgot.
Oh, the guy from canada.
There was a the the basecommander of the air force in
toronto, right?
So he was the actual basecommander, yeah, and he had a
fascination for women'sunderwear and he liked dressing
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up in women's underwear and hewould go.
He was actually nicknamed thepanty thief okay and he would go
around and steal women'sclothes off the line, but he got
to the point where he was thenwanting to dress up in those,
those knickers and bras andeverything else, to the point
where he then actually ended upkilling two victims, which were
two of them were members of hisown staff members Okay, so he
(33:54):
stalked them, gone to theirhouse and then basically Stole
their knickers and fuckingkilled them, Stole knickers and
then killed them because theycame back or caught him in the
act and he's in jail now.
But to look at him, you knowhigh profile person, a pilot,
you know a station commanderwho's in charge of the whole
station, and yet you know hejust turned to that because of a
(34:15):
fetish he had.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
There you go.
We can all turn in a second, wecan all right, absolutely so.
That concludes that little okay, serial killers, we hope you
enjoyed it.
Yeah, don't plan to kill us,please, no, but yeah, all right.
Now on to our next segment.
Dave, we need to do what DennyBoy does.
He's created little jingles forevery segment.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Well, we can do that.
We can and we might just dothat because I'm stuck on
ChattyPT and also making musicon sonar and we've got two, four
more new.
Oh, we've got four new tracksout.
Yep, yeah, we'll plug them in asecond.
Is that spotify?
Yep, yep, yep, yep, um, yeah,so yeah, I think we should go on
to our pet peeves, let's do petpeeves and ics all right, let's
talk about it.
(35:00):
Let you go first mr rant, can I,can, I, can I?
Again, it's all noise relatedwith me, I fucking hate.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
That's unusual.
Do you know what I'm getting?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
some hearing aids just to turn it down.
Do you know what?
I just can't stand fuckingnoisy things, and my pet peeve
this week is fucking pokeymachines.
Why the fuck do you have tohave a pokey machine?
That is fucking so loud thatthe person sitting on it is just
looking at the machine and it'sgoing ding, ding, ding, ding,
ding, ding ding.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
And.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
I'm thinking turn your fucking machine right, the
fuck down.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
I get your pain.
You do, right, I really do, andI understand it, because when
we're sitting there playing thepokies or whatever, you can hear
it so fucking loud and there isa volume button, right.
But you've got to look at thedemographic of the people that
are playing it, and they'reabout 90, they do have hearing
aids to what they're not wearing, so they're not hearing it
(35:52):
right.
So it should be up to the staffto go and give them a tap on
the shoulder and say, hey,dickhead, let me adjust that
volume for you.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Well, I'm actually contemplating even maybe making
a formal complaint to the cluband also saying that my ears are
now being traumatised.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Well, they'll tell you to wear headphones and wear
earplugs.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Well, they can pay for them, then can't they.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I'll give you some earplugs.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I'm sure Mrs Brown's still got some in her bag from
when I gave her to go overcountry.
Yeah, yes.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yeah, I do get it, though it is really annoying.
It's again.
I go straight, literally,because I'm going to win every
single time.
Obviously I go straight awayand I just turn the volume down
as soon as I get on the machine.
Then when you win, you juststart screaming at me, Then I go
yay, I win again.
But yeah, yeah, and you're goodat doing that.
I'm good at doing that, you are, I'm very successful.
(36:42):
But anyway, what's your peeve?
One of my first pet peeves isone-upping somebody in a
conversation.
Who One-upping somebody in aconversation?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
So when and I know people that do this frequently.
So if I say, oh, I'm really notfeeling well this week, I'm a
bit off, I've got a bit of asniffle- so they're putting it
back on themselves?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
you mean no?
Speaker 1 (37:07):
no.
Then they turn around and go ohyeah, I've got a cold, I've got
a flu plus my shoulder's aching, and you go.
It's not a competition rightRight.
Or if you sit there and you goI worked really good today Like
you're just sitting there aroundwith friends having a chat,
you'll go I've been really good,I've been making sure they
clock up 10 000 steps every daytoday so they're trying to
(37:29):
overdo your sympathy, oh I'm nowdoing 15 000 steps a day.
You sit there and go.
It's fucking annoying.
You don't have to be betterthan everyone, right?
You can just say well done tosome people, right?
You don't have to, because it'slike they're pulling the focus
from whatever it is, no, notyour sympathy, it's just from
whatever you're, if you'reactually saying it's an
(37:50):
achievement that you've actuallymade, but then they've got to
be better again.
They've got to be better again.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
They've always got to have a.
It's outdoing you.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yeah, always got to outdo someone one-upping
somebody.
It sounds a bit rude that, butit sounds good.
It's rude, well, not puttingone up.
That's what it sounds like tome.
Trying to be better thaneveryone else, regardless of the
situation, because it can be anegative.
It can be like oh, my unclepassed away this week and it'll
be like oh, my uncle and my auntpassed away last week,
(38:18):
especially when you brought theconversation up and they haven't
mentioned anything in there.
Yeah, they haven't.
It's a fucking grind in mygears.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
It's fucking grind my gears.
I probably didn't grind mine somuch, but I know what you're
saying.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
You wait, now that I've pointed it out, to you,
there's some people in ourcircle and you wait and see.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
What's the next one?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
My next one is people queuing on the wrong side of
the fucking ropes and shit likethat.
Now we got All you know is getto me.
Yeah well, it's even like lastnight.
Last night.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
We're in the club.
Let me state the scenario.
Go on then.
We're in the club.
There is a big rope right.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
They've got two registers.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
They put it out there , haven't they recently?
Yeah, you've got two registersright and you've got the
left-hand side and the righthand side right of the big rope.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Right now, the left hand side is where you're
supposed to.
This is basically the thebarista, the eatery right.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
The left hand side is where you're supposed to queue,
because that way everyone's inline.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
When you get to the front of the line, you either
veer off to whichever registeris available next yeah, right,
and the right is kept for peoplemoving back and forth, carrying
their food, carrying their foodfrom where they pick up.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, the server to their table To their tables and
stuff like that Right.
However, of late, these fuckingmorons have been queuing on the
right-hand side.
Right Left-hand side is emptyand the left-hand side is's
empty.
So when you pick up your food,you basically knock people as
you're walking past.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
You can't even get past the people, or you can't
even get past three abreast.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Excuse me excuse me, excuse me.
And you're sitting there andthinking it's really obvious,
it's really obvious that theyshould be queuing on that side
so what did we do last night?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
because it happened last night when we turned it,
didn't they?
There was all these people onthe left hand side, the right
hand side, sorry.
We got there so we thought, oh,we're going to kill the left
hand.
I'm not having this, but westood in the area where we were,
the same line as where theywere, so where there's finished.
We started on the right hand,left hand side and then what
happened?
Speaker 1 (40:18):
people then came on the fucking right hand side come
on the right hand side and thenthink they're jumping the gun
and I went no, no, I said you'resupposed to queue on this side.
That side's supposed to be leftopen so people can come back
with trays.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
And they looked at us and she looked at us and I said
yeah so you're behind us.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
She thought she was going to like stand up there and
jump in the front.
I said so you're behind us,right?
And so she sort of looked at mereally hesitantly and then did
it and lo and behold, right,right.
The queue then started formingon the correct side and made it
a lot easier for people to walkup when they were getting their
food.
And we went back later to getcoffee and we went back when we
(40:53):
went to collect our food and itwas all still flowing the
correct way.
So we did a social justice yep,we were fucking.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
We're going there tonight and I guarantee you
we're heroes we're heroes.
We're gonna get there tonight.
You know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
We're local heroes is what's going to happen, and
then they're going to give usour award.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
But we're going to go .
We'll be telling you next weekwhether or not they're on the
right side of the game tonight,and I get that.
I bet they are.
Yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
Yep and hoes.
It's the hoes.
They're actually having a bigchat.
They're talking about somethingI don't know.
I'm not actually listening,because we knew that it would be
britney um, but it was actuallymiami that started this
conversation right, so she'sback in there.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Actually, yes, I think they were on they don't
even know we're here.
Speaker 1 (41:39):
That's the thing.
Yeah, but they do secretly.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
It's funny, it's funny but yeah, um.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
So my next one are people that talk during movies,
right.
So if I'm going to watch amovie, right, I want to watch
the movie right now.
I'm not necessarily talkingabout people, I am talking about
I'm giving multiple.
I'm going to give you multiple,multiple scenarios here, all
right.
So the people that are talking,like another group of people
(42:06):
that are talking during themovie, where you're sitting
there trying to watch the movie,that annoys me.
But then the one thing thateven annoys me more if somebody
is sitting next to me in themovie watching the same movie
I'm watching and saying what'shis role?
What's that happen?
What happened there?
What happened there?
Huh, how come that happenedthere?
(42:26):
And I'm sitting there thinkingI'm watching the fucking movie
the same fucking time as you.
How would I know?
Right, I don't know any moreabout this movie than you, right
, and I'm not talking like okay,when we went and seen wicked.
Obviously, I know everythingabout wicked because I'm a big
gay man, right, and I lovemusicals, right.
But so I'm okay with peoplesaying who's that and what's
(42:48):
that character?
Right, I can give them a littlebit of a summary, in that I
would much prefer you to do itprior to us walking into the
cinema.
Right, why is she green?
All that kind of stuff, ask me,ask me and I will Google it.
Or I don't know, ask Google.
But it really grinds my gears.
People sitting there explainingthe whole way through or trying
(43:08):
to talk the whole way throughthe movie.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
And what about eating ?
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Eating.
I'm fine with the noise of the.
I can get past that.
I can get past that.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
We've got people on their phones Because I'm usually
the one.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Oh, I hate people on their phones in the movies.
I fucking hate it because itlights up the screen, right, and
they just.
I'm thinking to myself you'regoing to ask your friend, oh,
what did I miss?
Because you're busy on fuckingFacebook.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
But what happens if they're on Grindr and they're in
front of you?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Well, if they're hot, then we miss the movie together
.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
You move to the back, we go to the back and suck my
cockle and put my hand down mypopcorn box.
Your popcorn box.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah, but box, actually my balls are set.
Yeah, but yeah, there you go.
Yeah, so yeah, but yeah, sothat's my second one and go dave
, what's my last one is weatherforecasts.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
Now, I don't know about you, but most of the time
weather forecasts are prettyaccurate.
I get that okay.
But every fucking now and thenthey'll say it's going to be
fucking raining, so you makearrangements, so it's going to
fucking pour down rain, and andyou get up, you've made
arrangements, you cancel things,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
and it's the fuckingbeautifulest, nicest, perfect
day ever.
And then, alternatively, theycan say, yeah, this is going to
(44:16):
be fun, sunshine and fuckingbrilliant.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Rainbows and all that and you go out.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
And then it fucking hammers down.
Taking an umbrella, yeah, andthen your whole fucking day is
just a fucking disaster.
It's ruined.
It's ruined your haircut, sothat is a pet fucking peeve of
mine Get it fucking right.
You've got technology, You'vegot satellites.
You're paid a fortune to doweather fucking forecasting.
So get it right.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
Yeah, it's Steve Jacobs, it's on you, he used to
be a weatherman, did he?
Yeah, it was actually quite hot, yeah, okay, yeah, very hot.
And Sam Mack, I blame him.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Okay, well, I think they should just make the
weather like it's perfect allthe time, all year round, so it
rains at night when you'reasleep, and then it's bloody and
dry and just the righttemperature, like the Goldilocks
theory.
Okay, that would be brilliantwouldn't it?
Speaker 1 (45:01):
That would be perfect .
Speaker 2 (45:02):
That would be fucking amazing, amazing.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Right, my last one Go on and I don't know I'm going
to have to start recording mypet peeves, because I don't know
whether I've talked about thisone.
But shopping trolleys in carparks right, Not in car parks
and such, but when they're leftin the parking bay right.
I think we did discuss thisother last week?
Speaker 2 (45:20):
No, I don't know, we already did it last week.
If we did the, we did the uhmaybe the show and I think we
were talking about this to him.
Maybe I don't know, I think,because it's sort of like I have
recollection.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
Yeah I have recollection, but it really does
get me when I'm going toreverse, or I drive up to a spot
because I reverse, park intoeverywhere, right, and then I
get there and I go fuckingtrolley in the way right and the
trolley bay two days up.
I think it was with danny boy,you're right, there was a
trolley bay two days up.
I'm sitting there and goinglike, oh, it's not okay, it's
(45:59):
not okay, I'm not happy about it.
It does my fucking head in umand and it's not that far.
It's not that far away.
Usually it's just got money.
It's not that far away usually.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
If it's got money in it, then I don't mind.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
You like it?
Yeah, you're fucking collectingthat, hey, it's worth doing.
No, no, find a penny, pick itup all the time it's two fucking
meters away.
And it's got fucking $2 in it.
I'm going to fucking get my $2worth.
It's when you.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
When you take it back and you realise there's no
fucking chain that's why theyhaven't taken it back Then you
get pissed off.
I've just put that back andsomeone else is going to take
that fucking $2 now, the fuckingfeeding bastard fuckers, even
though it wasn't mine anyway.
Yeah, it wasn't yours to startwith, but yeah, that's our
peeves.
All right, that's our petpeeves for the day, so we're
just going to released um checkout, check out.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
We've got four new songs available on itunes um all
streaming services, allstreaming services that you can
possibly imagine um, one of themis called welcome to the world.
I wrote that one around um.
It was about my new littleniece, a great niece, lakelyn
rose.
Absolutely adorable littlebundle of joy.
(47:06):
She's a sweetheart, so checkthat one out, it's really cool.
And then we've got one anotherone that Dave wrote and composed
, all with AI, right.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
But we put a lot of the work into it.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
We don't just say give us this song, we change the
lyrics, we tell it what stylewe want, what singers.
So there is some artistry to it.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
Yeah, because you can change any format.
So we come up with a conceptand you know, I sit down and
think of something and I evenwork out collaborations with
different people.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, because the title of this one is not
something that AI would havecreated, so the title is called
Unification of Humanity and it'sawesome and that's kind of that
when we, when we or when daveput that one together.
His vision for that waseurovision sort of style and I
had delta good room he wanteddelta good room to sort of to
voice it and stuff like that.
(47:58):
Um, with darren hayes someonelike darren hayes now it hasn't
come out like darren, but it hasdefinitely come out sounding
very similar to Delta.
But we'll use that as our trackfor this one when we upload it,
and I might even include it atthe end of the podcast.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
I like it.
It would have been a great song.
I think it would have been agood Eurovision song contest
entry, such a great song andobviously now Delta is talking
about doing it for.
Australia Eurovision yeah, Imean obviously we can't subject
that because we wouldn't be ableto do anyway, just meet the
practice.
But it's a good song and thenshe's listening, yeah, and she
wants to cover of it.
Then we'd be more than happyfor her to do that because it's
so good congratulations on yourwording um.
Speaker 1 (48:36):
You looked amazing um , so did your husband yeah, and
husband too, yeah, um, thenoutback boys, and I don't know
whether I wrote that one.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
No, I did that one, I did that one as well.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yeah, you dirty little fucker yeah, um, but it
was it was to do with you aswell.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Yeah, it was like.
You know, it's about gaycowboys.
Yeah, it was.
It was a bit like brokebackmountain, but not like yeah,
it's a cool track as well.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
It's nice to come up nicely and then funky little
secret, which was another onethat you did oh my god you do
hundreds.
Well, I have been busy, haven'tI?
Yeah, you do, but this one, Ilike this one a lot.
Funky, funky Little Secret isone of my favourite tracks so
far.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
It is, so it's really cool.
It's a George Michael sort oflike take on his coming out in
the yeah, it's like Funky LittleSecret.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
Yeah, it's good, but it's really cool, yeah, really
cool.
So jump onto your favouritestreaming service, like whether
it's iTunes or Spotify, checkthem all out and we've got a few
more coming out.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
I've been playing around.
Speaker 1 (49:26):
We've got lots more coming.
We've got a few dances comingthrough.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Yeah, abba style ones .
I love the Abba style oneswe've done.
You're such a homo, I knowright.
Yeah, I just love that genreit's really cool.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
But yeah, check us out no-transcript.
(49:56):
We'll have three, four albumsout already between our catalog
of podcasts and music we shouldkeep your ears we should keep
your ears really, well and trulywe can, we can actually start
looking at merchandise.
Speaker 2 (50:08):
I'm joking, I'm joking.
Speaker 1 (50:09):
I'm joking yeah, because I make so much money
from this podcast?
Well, zero dollars, but we haveso much fun.
Yes, we do.
But yeah, all right.
So that's been us.
I've been Matt and I've beenDave, as usual, and we've been
your fully grown homos and wewill talk to you soon.
Bye, that's a wrap from us.
(50:30):
We've been your fully grownhomos and we look forward to
opening your mind, your ears andyour curiosities.
Don't forget to like, commentand subscribe and share our
podcast with your curiousfriends.
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