May 7, 2025 • 55 mins
Wellness journeys take unexpected turns as Matt dives headfirst into his first-ever yoga experience at the Australian Yoga and Wellness Festival. What begins as friendly support for his friend Miami transforms into a profound personal awakening during a Sacred Breath healing session that reconnects Matt with long-forgotten childhood memories. Through tears and physical sensations, he discovers parts of himself he never knew were missing, raising questions about healing, trauma, and self-discovery that resonate with anyone on their own wellness path.
The episode delivers a powerful life lesson from presenter Caitlin Vincent that might change how you approach social obligations forever: you're allowed to say "no" without justification. For chronic people-pleasers, this simple permission to prioritize your own wellbeing represents a revolutionary act of self-care. Matt's enthusiasm for his newfound yoga practice (complete with newly purchased yoga bolsters and blocks) showcases his characteristic ADHD-driven passion that listeners have come to love.
The conversation shifts to a night out celebrating their friend Sammy's unusual "first birthday" – after discovering her actual birth date differed from what she'd celebrated her entire life. The evening at Newtown's Bank Hotel and the Imperial features hilarious mishaps including an accidentally ordered beer, a single scallop entrée, and a phantom steak that was never actually ordered. Among the laughter and dancing emerges a fascinating discussion about the stark differences between gay male and lesbian dating apps, revealing cultural insights that prompt deeper questions about how queer men and women navigate relationships differently.
Whether you're curious about wellness practices, LGBTQ+ dating culture, or simply enjoy authentic conversations filled with humor and heart, this episode delivers entertainment alongside thoughtful reflections on self-discovery and friendship. Join us next time as we continue our exploration of relationships and dating with more bizarre facts and insights you won't want to miss.
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Fully Grown Homos with Dave and Matt On today's
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episode.
We've got a lot to cover offthis week, dave.
I thought we were going to havea really chill week, but we've
done fucking tons again.
Well, you've done a lot morethan I have.
I have I've done.
You've been a busy boy, been abusy boy, but we've done a lot
again, as per usual.
So today we're going to chatabout a few things.
I'm going to kick it off andtalk about my day yesterday.
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You had a good day, didn't you?
I had a great day yesterday.
I um I went to a health andwellness um retreat sort of day.
Um, it was a festival festival,health and wellness, the
australian health and wellnessfestival um with miami, with
miami, and it was actually heldat the conference centre near
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Panthers.
there it was in the Pullmanbasically.
And that venue was good when wewent to it last time to see a
band, but it was very loud lasttime, whereas this time it was
pretty much perfect for what itwas.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So was it set up in different because I didn't go.
So was it set up in differentrooms.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
So it was set up in four different, because I didn't
go.
So was it set up in differentrooms?
So it was set up in fourdifferent rooms, okay.
And then there was some otherlittle rooms that had like
market stalls and little massageareas and some different rooms
and different things sort of setoff.
There was like a.
When you walked in, there waslike a cushion area like with
all the cushions on the ground,and there was a flutist playing
(02:24):
music there and so he thenchanged to a guitar, a flutist
flautist, I don't know a guythat plays a fucking flute.
All right, anyway, I like thatit doesn't put in his pussy, um,
okay, I'm like an american pie,um, but yeah.
So it was really really welllaid out, really really well
organized, um, so thank you tothe organizers of the health and
(02:47):
wellness festival.
Will you be?
putting a um a link to the eventwell, it's, it's only held
sorry, yoga and wellnessfestival, not health and
wellness festival.
Yoga and wellness festival um,so there is a website so that I
guess, if you want to actuallycheck it out next time around,
or it might actually move todifferent venues and I'm keen to
(03:08):
find it if it does, because ifit does, I'll definitely go and
check it out in different venuesas well.
Yogawellnessfestivalcomau andit was a full-on day.
It's actually a two-day event,but me and Miami only went for
one day.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
So what sort of prices are people looking at for
this?
So so for the one day it wasabout 100 bucks, which is pretty
good for all that, because youwere there, for you were there
for literally eight hours fromyeah from literally eight
o'clock in the morning all theway through to bloody five
o'clock.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Well, it actually went till six o'clock, I think
it was and you had a choice ofwhat seminars you went to.
Well, you had four differentrooms, so you so you had move,
you had heal, inspire and groundright, and so they had
different things in every singleroom.
So they had things like yogaclasses.
Inspire was all about peoplegetting up there and talking
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about their inspirationaljourneys and sort of what you
can do better in your lifepotentially Not telling you what
you can do better, because theyacknowledged very much that it
was their own personal journeysand stuff like that.
So that was actually reallygood.
Then ground was all about sortof grounding yourself, like here
was about some healing ofyourself and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So look, what were the demographics of people like?
Were they old, young?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
It was mixed it was really, really mixed.
Okay, um, look, I thought I'dbe the only guy there and I
wasn't.
There was some young yogi typeguys there, yeah, but there were
some older guys that you wouldlook at, um, and like you'd look
at them if they were panthers,and you go oh yeah, they're
rough head guys and you'd go ohwow, you're here.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
They're roughhead, guys and stuff like that.
Oh really, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So people that you wouldn't really, and you'd go oh
wow, you're here doing yoga.
Yeah, which was really quitegood, especially from myself,
because I kind of went, I wasinterested in it?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, because you'd mentioned this before.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
But I kind of went more as a support person for
Miami yeah Right, because Ithought she wanted to do it and
I thought, yeah, okay, it looksfun and I love a festival and
things like that.
So I and I love a market storebecause I love buying.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You're not averse to doing sort of like no, no, I
love, I love wellness and allthat.
Yeah, I do love wellness.
You have done that in the pastI have done it in the past.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I'm definitely a gym person and everyone does all
that.
Um, however, I have never donea yoga class in my life.
I've always wanted to, but itjust never presented itself.
And any time that I'd thoughtabout doing it, I looked at the
pricing and went, nah, that's abit much for that.
Right, I can join a gym and pay30 bucks for the whole week.
(05:39):
Why would I pay 50 for twoclasses?
Yeah, yeah, but I kind of getit now.
I kind of get it because you'renot just getting a gym workout,
although, holy fuck, you'regetting a gym workout, right, it
was insane, like so, the firstsession I did and I'm not going
to go session by session bysession by session, right,
because otherwise we'll be hereall day, um, but I did two yoga
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classes throughout the day, oneat the very beginning and then
one at the end, and I say we did, sorry, two different types,
two completely different types,and don't ask me what they are
like.
I do have a description of themin my phone, but again, that'll
take us to tomorrow.
But because I also don't knowhow to read half of the words,
(06:23):
like they did this vinyasa yogaor something like that.
I don't know how to read halfof the words.
They did this vinyasa yoga orsomething like that, I don't
know.
Anyway, but I did these twodifferent sessions.
The first one was, I want tosay, easier.
It was still tough, right, Ikind of went oh God, okay, I
didn't expect yoga to bechallenging because I thought it
was all like hippie guru,downward dog, which you know
(06:45):
very well yeah, I do.
I thought you were able to showthem a few things oh yeah so but
um, so it sort of did thatfirst session.
It was good, it was really good.
Um then we did a couple ofinspire sessions with a couple
of talks, um with with caitlinvincent, who was great.
She does you Go Girl and you GoSis, which are basically
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self-empowering sessions andwebsites.
She has her own podcast as well.
Awesome, and she was great.
It probably wasn't for me.
That session wasn't for me.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Or maybe you weren't ready for it.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
No, no, no, it was a lot around the menstrual cycle
and stuff like that.
Right okay, fair enough, yeah,and there was a lot of getting
in touch with your sexuality andyour femininity and stuff like
that.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, it can't work for men as well, which is fine,
yeah yeah, she definitelytargeted the male audience as
well, not with.
Definitely targeted the maleaudience as well, not with the
periods, obviously, but no, well, well, no, she did say that we
have cycles, that men havecycles as well, so she was
actually very clever she's comefrom a teaching background an
education background.
Yep and um very good at what shedoes and her energy levels were
(07:57):
insane she wasn't you got to beto be yeah, yeah, in that sort
of industry, in that um, butthey weren't overwhelming insane
, they were just that rightbalance.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, so she was really really inclusive, but I'm
taking control, yeah yeah, um,so she was great as well.
Um, like, we went and seen sam,which was like connecting with
my authentic self.
Sam henderson, um, he's a lifecoach and stuff like that as
well.
Yep, um, that was great as well.
But again, that was ameditation sort of state thing
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and I kind of might have noddedoff on that because the noise in
the back of the room.
We decided we'd sit in the backof the room and the door kept
opening and closing.
So I got distracted at thebeginning because ADHD me right
finds it hard to focus at bestat times, as you may have known,
if you listen to this podcast,um and um.
So I was not really listeningto that because I was getting
(08:50):
annoyed by the door opening andclosing and thinking just
fucking put a block out periodlike or lock it, lock the
fucking door so no other fuckercan come in here, right, um, so
I can focus on what I'm supposedto focus on here.
But as a result, I had a greatnap.
So were they playing like musicand stuff in the background yeah
, yeah yeah, so there was your,um, your sort of very subtle
(09:11):
undertones of music and because,um, like sam's session was
hypnotic yeah, right, so it wasactually, and it was hypnosis,
um, as such, and a very lighthypnosis you know all about that
I do.
Yeah, but I nobody got draggedup on the front to be a chicken
this time unfortunately or amuscle man or a conductor or
anything like that.
Yeah, like I did on the cruise.
No, but it was hypnotic and itwas very calming, okay, and as a
(09:36):
result, I had some greatsnoring.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Did you use any sort of like visual things?
Yeah, yeah, took you through awhole period of that?
But also, do you know when youhold different objects,
inanimate objects, to bring youinto a different?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
realm, like a crystal or something like that.
No, no, we didn't use any ofthat in the session.
Okay, but again, what he tookus through I can't really say,
because I kind of fell asleep.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
No, I fell asleep.
Oh, I know that one.
The other other one you talkedabout.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, the other one.
Okay, and then I'm going tojump back to that.
We did a sound healing as well,right, which was great.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Not sounding, but sound healing.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Sound healing with Christy Lee Dinovich right and
she was really really lovely aswell.
Her energy again.
A lot of the people that dothis wellness.
They don't do it because it's aprofitable thing.
No, they do it because this iswho they're meant to be.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
This is the one you're telling me about from
richmond that no, this is adifferent.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So I'm going to jump back because I definitely want
to dive a little bit into thatone.
Okay, um, but chris, the soundhealing was great with christy
lee, um, and she was very calmand and it was very calm and it
was very relaxing and sort ofgentle and sort of laying on the
ground.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
How was Miami throughout this process?
She was phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
So Miami, as you know and as anyone that knows her,
she loves a chat right andbetween her and me, and I've
seen a meme on Facebook theother day and it says like other
people's story, and it's likeone railway track, and then it's
like ADHD people's storytellingand there's like literally a
(11:11):
thousand tracks and I actuallyput a comment on that yeah, but
where's the station?
Me and her together in a room.
Normally we don't shut up andwe never finish a conversation,
but it's a fun though.
Oh, it's great, it's great.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
But it's a fun though .
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Oh, it's great, it's great, it's great, great, great,
great great, but we never, everfinish a conversation.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, no, I've never heard you ever finish a
conversation.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Fuck you um you're right, but fuck you.
But um, but together, like, butwe were both well, she was very
calm throughout the day andstuff like that.
So we were there on a healingjourney.
Yeah, right, so Right.
So so we were taking itseriously, but we still had so
many laughs and so much fun,which is good.
You need that, cause we did,cause that's us to a T anyway,
(11:54):
yeah, um, but yeah she, she gota lot out of the day as, and I
definitely.
And then, like I said, thatlast yoga session oh my God, my
fucking body is aching today.
I didn't know yoga.
I didn't touch him.
Honestly, correct, I did notknow yoga could be hard work and
(12:14):
it was for the best possiblereasons.
Now, as a result of thesecouple of yoga sessions, I'm now
going to go and open a yogaretreat, because that's what my
ADHD is yeah, your ADHD iskicking in already.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I'm now going to go and open a yoga retreat, because
that's what my ID is.
Yeah, your ADHD is kicking inalready.
I'm going to hyper-focus onthis yoga.
So Matt's already spent hisnext week's allowance, his next
year's pay package, which he'llput in the garage and forget
about.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I've opened up a yoga retreat in Bali this afternoon
and I'll be an instructor by theend of the week, because that's
the way you operate.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I love your enthusiasm, enthusiasm.
But sometimes your enthusiasmtakes over and before you know,
you've got a garage full ofstuff.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Hey, if my over enthusiasm didn't actually start
.
This podcast would never havecome into play, very true very
true, so and so would a lot ofthings in our life.
I'm not knocking it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I think it's great, but sometimes I have to roll my
eyes because you go, you say afew things, oh my god, what
other subject matter can youcome into?
to play with and I'm like, ohwow, because I literally have no
time in my life as well mattcan be the only one that go in
to buy tissues, say, and thencome out with a whole bathroom
set or something like that,saying completely random, saying
(13:18):
different.
He'll walk past the shop and go, holy fuck, I need that in my
life and I'll go and fucking buyeverything, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, but look, the thing is that I and again I've
just I'm not a massive footyhead, right, I do enjoy football
, right.
I couldn't sit there and tellyou every rule or anything.
I know the basic ones and allthat kind of stuff, right, and
the players and some of theplayers, right, but again, I
couldn't tell you who they allare or anything like that.
They all are Now because of mylocale.
(13:42):
Now Penrith is my team, right,so Parramatta have been my team
my whole life, right, but let'sface it, they never win anything
.
But I went to the Panthers gamelast week, as you guys heard,
and that with Manly.
But I decided when I'd seen theVegas jerseys that I wanted one
right Now.
(14:03):
They haven't been availableanywhere, but I found a place
where they're available so I hadto buy one.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Now, I'm just laughing completely off the
topic anyway, but yeah so soyeah, my hope adhd brain.
Why I never get to the end of astory, guys?
Because he never goes off on atangent.
Anyway, tell, tell us about thejersey.
Anyway, you may as well.
So I've got one and I'm goingto go and pick it up today.
That was completely irrelevant,but there you go.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
However, back to the Yoga and Wellness Festival.
Welcome back, hello.
I do get back to them sometimes, especially if I've got a piece
of paper in front of me thatsays focus on this.
So my session of the day allright was definitely.
It was with oh, and I just hadwhat do you do?
(14:50):
Why do you do that to me?
Um, okay, it was.
It was called um sacred breathhealing your inner child.
Right, with michelle dieball.
Right, she's a health andwellness practitioner, she's
from Richmond.
She's out at Richmond, Okaythat's Richmond New.
South Wales, yeah, new SouthWales, right, but she has a
(15:11):
website, an Instagram, right?
It's called 1000paths, right?
So 1000 as in A, and then 1000,the number, but it's actually
in letters and then paths.
Why is that hard to sayP-A-t-h-s like as in the path,
yeah, paths right yeah, um, it'sjust hard to say right, it's
okay she does.
(15:32):
Um, so miami went to her forsome reiki, okay, yep, right,
and she spoke about breath workand things like that.
Yep so one-on-one so that wasone-on-one.
She did that, miami did, and umwas that was that included in
the actual cost?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
no, no this was a bit .
This is oh, you see, oh, soshe's seen her before.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Okay, that's what brought us to this actual
festival, right, okay, yeah, allright, that makes sense now.
So we signed up for this.
We, we would go into thissession.
We made sure we got there niceand early and we would
definitely go into this sessionbecause that's the session we
wanted to go to.
Yep, and, as it turns out,that's the session that everyone
wanted to go to, because it waschock-a-block full.
Right right now, I'm a bitskeptical, right, I definitely
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go into things with open mindyeah however, I go in there
thinking we'll see, yep right.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So, like you know, to believe it is yeah, yeah to him
now breath work.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I hadn't really heard much about, right, but you sit
there and they take you through.
Now it was michelle.
There was a couple of otherpeople that were also working
with michelle and I've not gottheir names with me, but if you
go to her website a thousandpaths no doubt you'll be able to
connect in with all of them.
Yep, um, but this session thatthey run, or they ran, um, you
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lay down, they take you throughsome breathing, they explain
what's going to happen as far aswhat breaths they're going to
get to do and all that kind ofstuff, and then they start
taking you through the breathingpattern and it's like four
breaths in through you know, no,it breathe in on the four
breath, like not four breaths tothe count of four on your nose.
You hold it for four, youbreathe out before you hold,
(17:14):
then breathe in, breathe out,okay, and I'm not going to go
through the whole processbecause they did it and I don't
really know the whole process.
Yep, um, but then they take you, um, on a bit of a journey with
healing your inner child, right, and there were certain parts
of it, and I'm sitting there andI'm going, okay, but the
(17:35):
breathing almost takes you intoa subconscious state of mind.
Right, so you're definitelyconscious, but it's almost
subconscious state of mind andthey tell you to picture your
child, your inner child, who isyou as a younger child?
Right Now I don't, and for alot of my friends and family
(17:58):
they know that I don't reallyremember my childhood at all.
Right, and it's not okay.
Now, to my knowledge, it's notbecause of anything traumatic or
anything like that.
I just don't remember it.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I've just said okay, that's too busy playing in the
gardens.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, I don't know I've got a great life.
Now I don't need to go back andregress.
I don't know what the fuck Iwas doing then, right, yeah, but
I know what that child lookedlike because I've got photos of
him, right.
So when they said, look, youknow, go back to your inner
child, blah, blah, blah and soon and so forth, and whatever
instructions they were giving, Icould picture this child and I
said, what are they doing?
So I kind of looked at thischild, which was me, and he was
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playing with this like woodentruck, right, that was like
those wooden trucks that had theshapes, right, and all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
And he was playing with it, but he was playing with
it by himself.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Okay, all right, and I'm sitting there and I'm going
like, and they're going, whatare you doing there?
And they were taking youthrough different stages and
stuff like that, and they werebasically asking you to welcome
him.
And there was a stage therewhere, basically, I could
clearly see him standing over me, right, and it was just like I
don't want to go into it becauseI'll get emotional right
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because it was very emotional.
But then there were some momentsin it where I sat there and I
really went like and especiallyafter I was crying, like I was
actually sobbing throughout,like there was a part I was
actually sobbing throughout.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
There was a part of it where they were asking you to
You're almost releasing your,your inner child, inner child,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, and you're basically asking them to help
you heal now pretty much, yeah,definitely.
And again, I don't know thewhole part of it.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
But what it has done.
Everybody in there would havehad different stories as well.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
They've all had different reactions and
different emotions, differentthings, so it was all different
for everyone.
Yep um, but, like I said, Ijust for myself and and I'm not
going to speak on behalf ofmiami so how far away from
everybody were you?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
were you in your own little area, in your own space,
on your own yoga mat?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
okay, as such, right um, but like there was a memory
that flashed to myself right, um, and like, as I think about it
more, there are more memoriesthat are sort of coming which is
good yeah but the thing is thatthere was, as a child, my
younger sister couldn't say myname properly.
All right, in a good way or abad way no, in in a good way
(20:20):
right so the way she used to sayit right and I'm not going to
mention it on here my youngersister.
Okay, yeah, right, um, so shecouldn't say it properly.
So she used to say it in acertain way, because my name's
matthew, right, but she used tosay that sounded something
similar, right, but it wasn't,and so that ended up being.
My whole family thought thatwas hysterical when she said it
(20:40):
when she was younger, so thatthen became my nickname, okay,
and it was my nicknamethroughout my whole life for a
while there right now, how doyou feel about that?
My mom.
It was fun.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Okay, actually, it used to annoy you, but she right
, okay you weren't offended byit, then no, no, no, it wasn't
offended, but no but it was.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
It was my nickname, it's just what they used to say,
okay, and, but it hasn't beenin my mind in eternity, so
there's no way or no reason forit to come up right.
So for this to come out of thismoment, there's some
significance to it.
(21:16):
Yeah, there's trigger points,and so it's sort of making me go
down a path of thinking well,if this has unlocked this, what
else is there that I actuallyneed to unlock to?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
heal, but you're also focusing on yourself, which you
don't necessarily do.
I don't do that.
I know most people don't.
That's what I'm saying.
So these things are very, verypoignant to self-healing, like
you said, because they make youstart analysing your whole self
and we forget about our youthand our young versions of
ourselves.
Yeah, and they can be greatmemories.
They could be bad memories.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
They could be.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
But you need to cleanse yourself from them or
you need to reinvent your mind.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Well, some of the stuff that they talked about was
shame, right as an inner childof shame.
Yeah, it was one of theemotions that they talked
through.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So how long would they let you dwell on these
things for before they moved on?
I don't know it wasn't long, Idon't think.
But did it flow naturally fromone to the other?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Well, they said, like you know, feelings of love,
feelings of shame feelings ofloss, feelings of such and such.
It was up to you to focus onwhich one it was up to you which
one you Right, and then shejust correlated the emotions,
because you're talking aboutprobably about 60, 70 people in
(22:31):
the room on the yoga mats, soshe sort of would go through it.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
But was it all quiet?
It was very quiet.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
No music playing Music, okay, yeah, but breath
through the hole the guy thatwas in there helping her, and
again I wish I had his name?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Did you have your eyes closed, do you remember?
Okay, so you were justliterally in your own world.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
You were in a subconscious state.
Yeah, okay, but he was takingthe whole time.
He had his own mic and he wouldhave his breath work.
And then the other girl thatwas in there, she was taking
through emotions.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
So there was sounds of crying, so you had three
different people playing theparts Three different people
orchestrating this event.
Okay, it's just like a littleplay on words.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
It was and it was a session, a proper healing
session.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
And how long?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
was this session for About 45 minutes to an hour.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Okay, cool Right.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
But then like there was, like it was just it was
changing, but it's put up somany questions for me, that's
something psychologists shoulduse.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
They should use that sort of teaching, I think.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Now, apart from the actual emotional side and this
is why I kind of want to delvedeeper because, as I was laying
there when we're going throughthese things, there was also
physical pain.
So I was feeling and yes, I'ddone a yoga session earlier, but
I was actually feeling my hipsand like just around sort of the
(23:52):
top end of my buttocks and myhips, there was burning,
physical pain.
So I know I'm smiling andlaughing because my mind is now
going off, I know, but this is,and this is where I'm actually
now sitting there thinking isthere trauma that I need to
unpack?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
No, I think you're actually having a baby.
I'm definitely not.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
But this is where okay, so you're 100% right in
the same feeling, because thisis where I was actually wiggling
my legs, wiggling my knees, myback, my hips, trying to get out
of that uncomfortable positionwhich was just laying flat on a
floor but it wasn'tuncomfortable birth.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Maybe you you felt that when you were being
delivered.
Maybe maybe, maybe, I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I honestly don't know .
But this is and this is why Ineed to unpack it further with
michelle um dieball and herwebsite and her team a thousand
paths, because it was fuckinginsane.
Now I just want to go back onesecond, because there is one
lesson that I actually took outof it and I think for all of our
listeners right and for all ofmy friends, I'm going to be
(24:54):
passing this lesson on for along time.
Right, there is michelle, I'mnot michelle, sorry.
Caitlyn vincent um caitlyn,caitlyn, caitlyn vincent.
Yeah, caitlyn vincent, rightagain.
Look up her.
You go girl and you go bro.
Right, caitlin Vincent, caitlin, caitlin, caitlin Vincent.
Yeah, caitlin Vincent.
Right Again, look up herYouGoGirl and YouGoBro website.
But she taught us this onething, and I don't know why.
I'm a 53-year-old man, I don'tknow why it hasn't happened to
(25:15):
me or why I haven't actuallythought about it previously.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I haven't thought about it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
But there is something you're allowed to say
and it's no right and it doesn'tneed any justification.
Justification any further,infant.
If it's not serving you, well,right, you're actually allowed
to say no right to things.
Right.
Whether it be somebody askingyou to go somewhere, to do
(25:42):
something that you just don'tfeel in your gut is right for
you, you're allowed to say no.
And if somebody gets unhappy,pissed off, that's their emotion
.
That's not for you to actuallymake them feel comfortable.
Because, and look, I don'tthink.
And I was chatting with some ofthe guys last night and they
(26:05):
said that doesn't sit well withme.
No, I can't say no.
And some of the people werewith last night and we'll go
into last night soon but theysaid I'm a people pleaser, I
can't say no.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
And this is exactly right.
When you're that sort of liketype of person personality.
You're very empathetic, you'revery much a people pleaser.
Like you said, it's innate intoyour bloodstream that you will
always do what you can to helpother people first.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, but how about you?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And this is exactly right.
Well, I'm the same as well.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, no, but I mean you, but I mean you yourself.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
How about yourself Exactly?
We don't give ourselves time.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Because you're saying yes to everything.
Right, and yes, I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, but it might be at the expense of your energy
and this is your personal slaveand our friend Anne from the
club she's like that, she'sgoing through her own personal
battles.
at the moment she's a beautiful,beautiful lady and you know she
puts her heart and soul intoeverybody.
Even though she's got personalissues and health issues at the
moment of herself, she's stillfocusing on other people and we
(27:06):
keep on saying to her you've gotto love yourself and you've got
to be able to put yourselffirst, because you'll never heal
properly otherwise.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
So no is the one lesson I would love everyone to
take out of this.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And just yeah, fuck it quitehonestly, but yeah, All right,
honestly, but yeah, all right,so that's enough.
That's good.
I'm glad you enjoyed it and I'mglad great day um, like yoga
and wellness festival, so that'sa good birthday treat, isn't it
?
I suppose, yeah, anybody'sstruggling to find treats or
birthdays christmas is becausethere's something there for
everyone as well, like,literally, you can buy gift
(27:37):
cards or whatever I wouldimagine so, but like the thing
is that, like there's, there'stwo days of this thing Now, I
only went to one day right Now.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Retrospectively I'm going to both days next year,
but was it?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
the same again.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
No, no, no, they're different sessions.
Oh well, there you go.
Today's sessions were like yogadreaming there was like a line
of arms.
Was Miami going to this one?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
No, no, okay.
Is it the same cover the costor is it separate days?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
no, there's, it's like it's.
It was like 135 if you did theboth day pass.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
That's a great.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
So that's a set there and I get like, but next time
I'm doing both days, so maybeyou can buy all of us.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yep, yeah, maybe we should all go.
Yeah, we can all learn.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
But I'm definitely next time around gonna lock in a
whole weekend and what otherpeople ask me for on the Sunday
or the other day that it's on.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I'm just going to say no, can I ask what you're going
to buy prior to going into thisnext session?
Fuck you, probably yoga pants.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Exactly, I was going to say are you going to buy
these yoga pants Because I'mgoing to go and sign up for yoga
?
So there's a yoga in my localarea called Nin Yoga and I
literally have gone through someof the classes since being
there yesterday.
And, um, I didn't get to go toany of her sessions, but she was
delightful.
She's the one of the ladiesthat I bought my um, my yoga
bolster, from um, what's a yogabolster?
(28:52):
Man?
It's, oh, it's so cool.
It's a big bolster.
It has a handle on the end.
So what is a bolster?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
so you can sit on.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
No, you can sit on it .
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You can use it through different poses and
throughout the yoga session.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Pillows a big pillow, yeah, but it's got like a
handle on the end, so my balanceain't great, all right.
So for yoga, yeah, a lot ofpeople have the yoga blocks,
which we now have as well,because because miami bought the
blocks okay matt will have hisown store there this time.
I told you I'm having a fuckingold retreat, um, but but yeah,
(29:22):
so anyway, I'm definitely doingthe two-day next week enjoyed
yourself we definitely did andthat was definitely so what else
did we do, dave what?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
else did we do?
Yesterday?
My day was big, your day washuge.
What?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
did, we do last night .
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Well, we met up with our friend sammy.
Yay, it was sammy's birthday.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Well, it's going to be her birthday on monday so it
is always a delight to meet upwith sammy, because she is a
fucking like.
We met sammy through fanny yeahright, who you'd know from dick
, and fanny yeah um, and she.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
We met her and we gelled with her straight away.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, she's, she's just a beautiful human.
Yeah, right, like a lot of umpeople sorry, dick and fanny's,
because Dick and Franny are bothamazing people.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Well, yeah all our friends are.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
So, yeah, they are, they really are, but like so we
met up with her Yep and weinstantly clicked.
So we love her, so anyopportunity we get to catch up.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
So we went out to Newtown, which is in Sydney area
.
Yep, we went to the Bank Hotel,yep Right, we Went to the bank
hotel, yep Right, had a drink.
But she invited like 12 friends, didn't she?
Yep, yep, Three of themcouldn't come because, obviously
, having COVID.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
They haven't been well COVID and flu and all that.
So she said, no, you can't come, yep.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
So what was the whole purpose of this get together,
apart from that?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So this was Sammy, who is 43 on Monday.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yep, it was her first birthday so, dave, let's
explain that for our listeners.
Yep, so sammy, her whole lifeum has celebrated her birthday
on the 24th of may of may rightso that's the only day that
she's ever known yeah, a fewdays, a few years ago, she got
told by her so-called biologicalmother, which again, yeah, this
(31:03):
is her words, her wordsquestionable, and she won't mind
us saying that.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
You know that she was actually born on the 16th of
may, right?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
what the fuck I think it changed to another day as
well, after that as well, butthen she's found out that she
did some more digging.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
she wanted to get some more digging, so she
actually got a birth certificateand all that kind of stuff and
she actually found out thatshe's born on the 4th.
The 4th no the 5th the 6th, the6th, whatever day, monday is.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
No 5th, 5th, 5th of May so that's actually
officially tomorrow, right?
Speaker 1 (31:34):
So she's now celebrating.
She's taken it in a stride.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
She's taken it in a stride.
She was having a great timelast night, wasn't she?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
And she decided well, fuck it, I'm going to celebrate
my birthday.
So, technically, this is goingto be her very first birthday,
her first real birthday.
So happy first birthday toSammy From us all.
But what did we do?
We, we do.
We went to the Bank Hotel, yeah, which is a great bar, great
hotel.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Now, if you've never been to Newtown, it's a very
cosmopolitan.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, it used to be a big lesbian bar.
That's all the people used togo there.
But now everyone goes therebecause it's such a cool bar and
all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
It's a cool vibe and stuff.
It is a great vibe.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
It's got an upstairs we Great food.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
We'll talk about food later on, won't?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
we.
We've eaten food from therebefore right, we have yeah, but
we met some awesome people thatagain through, I guess Dick and
Fanny.
Essentially yeah, but they wereSammy's friends.
So, my God, her friend thesupermodel.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Sammy's friend.
Yeah, Kylie, oh my God.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Oh my God, yeah, kylie.
Oh my god, oh my god, yeah, sheis.
We've seen this woman walkingwith sammy and I went oh my god
how tall she is.
She's like six foot one, sixfoot but six foot right, but
just glamour, personified, justbeautiful model material,
jessica roe sort of style right,I can't believe her age.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I didn't know.
She's just got a 20 year oldson.
Yes, she had 20 something yearson, yeah, and I was like holy
fuck, yeah, she's just, she'sjust beautiful, and then she's
also a fucking amazing personwith so much fun.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, good, dance like was having a ball and just
really enjoying being herself.
Right, because she came outlate didn't she as well?
Yeah, chatting to everyone andall that kind of stuff.
Um, but just an absolutelyhuman, amazing human, yep, um,
but just gorgeous.
I don't think she gets howpretty she is either.
I don't think.
I don't think she just gets howgorgeous she actually is either
(33:33):
, because, like, because she isa stunner, she's definitely holy
, she's up there with the sortof a-list models.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
she's just beautiful.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I sat there and I, and I don't think she gets it,
which is again a shame, but atthe same time it's not she's
modest, you know, because she'slike totally modest she was just
lovely, absolutely delightfulas a human.
And then we met trev, who's umsammy's ex-husband.
Yeah, pre pre-semi becoming alesbian, yeah, and he was, I
thought he was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
he was a bit shy at first, which is understandable.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Right, because he didn't know everyone Right, but
he was fucking funny.
He was awesome, I got alongwith him like a house on fire.
I think he's a top bloke, yeah,and just a really nice guy.
Quite good looking too, justsaying you won't be able to turn
him?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
No, no, no.
If they come to me and theywant something, something, I'll
give them something somethingMore like if they come on you.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Well, they can come on me, in me, out me over me,
but we also had other friends,but he was awesome as well.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
And then I had Joel.
We met Joel, who was anotherlovely guy that Sammy worked
with as well, who again didn'tget to chat to him much but has
something, because it was hard,because we were on two different
tables.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Weren't we sitting close by?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
yeah, sitting close by, but it was hard,
conversations were but he wasfor the, for the little bits of
chat that we had.
He was again a really nice yep,decent human well arranged.
I'm good look, another goodlooking guy as well, quite a
good looking guy.
Um, um, and then we had tina,tina, tina, who was there, and
she had her son with her as well, and I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
We know his name begins with D.
It starts with a D, but I can'tremember.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
He was a really polite, friendly kid.
But he wanted to come outbecause it was Sammy's birthday.
Yeah he wanted to come out andcelebrate Sammy's birthday with
her as well, which was great,and Tina, again, another
gorgeous woman.
Yeah, it was just like I didn'tthink she would be able to, but
(35:30):
I think the key to being whatwe think is beautiful is your
confidence.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, your personality type and just being
a genuinely nice human.
Yeah, and Sammy has managed todo that.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
She's surrounded herself with really good people,
and she said that to us lastnight.
She said she's in the happiestplace she's ever been.
She's the happiest place she'sbeen in her life, which is
amazing to see.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
And this is it.
I mean, you get to a point inyour life where you think, okay,
what can I do better?
But if you've got people aroundyou that you're happy with,
then that's all you need.
Yep, that's all you life.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I mean so we went down and we had dinner at the
bank hotel.
Yep, now we looked at the menu.
We'd been to the bank hotelbefore and we looked at the menu
and we kind of went ah, this isdifferent than it used to be.
Well, sort of, I mean theoption was different, but so we
ordered a few things off themenu and stuff like that.
We ordered, like the beefskewers and the flatbread.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
It's almost like the appetizer sort of thing, but
they come out in there.
It's all like there's enough toshare.
It's a share plate.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
The cauliflower type thing and all that comes out.
So we ordered lots of food, afew things a burrata and all
that right.
And it was sensational Likeevery single bit of food that
got delivered to the table wasfucking sensational right now.
Sammy was in charge of orderingfor her and her ex-husband that
right.
So she went onto the app andshe'd been on the app earlier
but couldn't work it out right,um, and so she pressed order on
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whatever she thought she'dordered right.
And next minute they boughtover a jug of beer.
She's gone, huh.
And they went.
Well, yeah, sammy, she didn'trealise that was still in the
order from the last time thatshe'd ordered right.
So, anyway, so they've got okaycool, paid for it.
Might as well drink it right.
So they were drinking theirbeers and all that kind of stuff
(37:18):
, and then next minute herentree turned up.
What was her entree?
Dave?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I can't remember what did she order?
A scallop Scallops, that'sright, scallops.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Now on the picture.
To be fair to her, the pictureshowed three scallops on a plate
.
However, in the text it saidone piece.
Bring a single he said you'veordered a scallop and she's
going a scallop and she lookedat it she looked and think of
what the fuck a scallop.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
And then I got worried that that's all she'd
actually ordered and I thoughtoh god, you know so then I
looked on the menu and I went no, it definitely says one piece
um so she laughed about that.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
That was a bit comical, right?
Did she enjoy it though?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't knowhow much can you taste when
you're eating one scallop, Iknow right, but I think she said
it was nice.
Okay, but it looked nice enough.
But then, sitting there, hermain came up, which was the
barramundi Yep, and it wasreally nice.
Now, her and her ex, they getalong like a house on fire still
(38:20):
, because, like, the only reasonthey probably separated is
because she likes girls.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, um right um.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
So therefore, like you know, um, they've, they've.
There's zero animosity therebecause they're both top humans,
right, um, but like her maincome, but he was picking at her
food and all that kind of stuffand sharing stuff across the
table, like we were throwinglike bits of freaking hang on,
not throwing bits of bread, butoffering it was offering bits of
bread and chips and all thatkind of stuff that was on the
(38:47):
table.
So he was picking along and hehad these barramundi, she had
her barramundi and eating littlebits of it and he was tasting
it and that and sitting thereand going where's his steak?
Because she had actually saiddid anyone order the steak?
And none of us ordered thesteak.
Oh, it didn't give us theoption to say medium, well done,
how you'd like it cooked, oranything like that.
(39:08):
So she spoke to one of thestaff members, didn't?
she, so she spoke to one of thestaff and she said I've ordered
a steak but it didn't give methe options.
And she said oh, normally itdoes.
She said what did you order?
And she said I'll go and tellthem how you want it cooked.
So the staff member went andtold the kitchen supposedly how
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they wanted it cooked, and allthat.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
We carried on eating, drinking, talking.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
And then about a half an hour later.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
It was literally a long time after.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, trevor said I still haven't got my steak.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
And he said I wasn't hungry at that point.
Yeah, by where's?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
my fucking still haven't got my steak right.
And he said I wasn't hungry atthat point.
Yeah, by that stage he wasn'thungry because he'd already
picked everyone else's food.
And so he called over thisyoung guy who was again super
helpful, right.
He went back to the kitchen.
He says where's the steak?
Blah, blah, blah.
And so they've looked.
And then she's come back overand he's gone.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Oh, they've forgotten are you sure you've ordered?
Speaker 1 (39:59):
he said he said I'm so sorry they've forgotten about
it.
We'll do it now.
We'll do it now.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Then she said don't worry, I don't want it because
I'll have a refund.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Can we just get a refund instead?
Speaker 2 (40:06):
And he said okay, that's fine, We'll give it to
the staff members to eat becausewe don't want to waste the food
.
So they were really good aboutit, weren't they?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
And then so he's gone .
Have you got?
He said, okay, well, just showme and we'll organise a refund.
Well, she went into the app.
There was no steak there.
She didn't order it.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
And in the meantime they cook the steak for the
staff.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
They cook the steak for the staff, so they got to
eat it anyway.
But poor Trev sitting theregoing hungry no, he wasn't going
hungry, but it was fuckinghysterical because then he was
sitting there going you inviteme to your birthday birthday.
Then don't even order my dinnerfor me.
It's given him heaps, and sowe're telling him about how good
the kebab shop was down theroad and stuff like that.
Yeah but we, that was fun, thatwas a lot of fun.
(40:52):
Yeah, yeah.
But then we went down to theimperial yep, watched um a drag
show.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
But well before we went down, I went to the toilet
with sam, I remember, and therewas an incident in the male
toilets where the two, um thetwo, cubicles.
Yeah, I don't know what happened, so I went in there and I
walked in, I didn't realize theurinals were to the right hand
side as you walk in the urinalsfor anyone speaks australian and
basically, um, the two cubiclessorry, two cubicles were both
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closed, so there's obviouslysomething in there.
But there was another guy stoodoutside but he was having a
direct chat with one of theother people inside one of them,
okay, and the other one washaving a direct chat with the
other person inside as well, soit was like a three-way
conversation happening in thetoilets, okay and then he then
went outside.
The guy stood outside, wentoutside and I carried on pissing
and you know, just lookingaround seeing who else is in
(41:40):
there as you do and um, twoother guys came in, went to have
a pee and everything else, thenwalk out, and I came out and
then obviously sammy hadn'tfinished and she came out after
me.
Then she said when she wentback out the guy was outside
there and he asked her if shewas involved with the the
toilets.
I think, okay, it was like itwas bizarre.
(42:00):
I'll have to correlate and seewhat sammy was talking about,
but the way it went was was sheinvolved with what's happening
in the toilets, in the male'stoilets, and what was happening
in the toilets?
Speaker 1 (42:09):
I don't know no one knows.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
No, because it was closed and they were still there
when I left, okay, and I knowthere was no glory holes because
I had used those bathroomsearlier.
Oh, had you yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
No, well, no toilet.
But I noticed and I needed abig fart.
And you know when you need abig fart, you're not sure
whether it's a fart or not.
So I thought, oh, you know,better better be safe than sorry
.
Yeah, um, but yeah, so, butyeah, so there was like okay, no
glory holes in there.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I thought maybe it might be no, no, no, definitely
not they were doing something inthere because they were very
well they were doing.
They were very verbal okay butnot in a high pitch, or you know
just having chats?
Yeah, okay, I assume they kneweach other.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Maybe, maybe, or maybe they didn't maybe they
were getting to know, maybe theymet each other behind closed
doors.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Maybe, maybe, maybe.
This is where the relationshipstarts, matt the dating apps,
and that's what we're gonna talk.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
I think we're gonna talk about relationships,
because I hope so.
We'll just talk abouteverything else.
Anyway, I know right, but yougo on, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yes, all right, but we went from there to the
Imperial Imperial, yeah, watchedthe drag show, had some drinks.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
It was good fun.
There had a dance.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
I love it down there.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
I love it down there.
The vibe is always so good.
Yeah, got a really good tablesitting at the front there,
cleared the dance floor and allthat waited and waited drank
more tried to listen to eachother's conversations over the
sound of everything else, but itwas fun.
It was fun, you got up, and yougot up and danced.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
There was lots of conversations, but on the way
out, we decided to have somephotographs taken, didn't we?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
oh yeah, we took we took, you know, the photo booth,
photo booth, right, it wasfunny it was five of us.
Five of us in the tiny littlephoto booth.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
And it was Sammy's birthday, yep, and she wanted
the photographs as memories, yep, and tell everybody what
happened with the photographs,matthew.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Well, five of us cramped into this, right Yep.
Now Sammy's head's coming infrom the side, right Yep.
So she was like the furthestaway, wasn't she the furthest
away?
And everyone's looking at wherethe frigging photo screen is.
I said no, no, you can look uphere where it says look here,
right.
So, first photo we could seeall our triple chins, right.
Second photo yeah, we couldactually see our heads.
(44:12):
Well, when I say our heads, thebirthday girl yeah.
Literally had her chin in thefrigging photo right.
Pretty much nothing else, right, except for the last photo
where she decided she was goingto stick her tongue out in the
photo.
Well, I know why she a lesbianum, because that's a tongue it
(44:34):
looks like a cock.
She stuck her tongue in there.
In the photo there's no pictureof her face there's no picture
of her face for context oranything at all.
It just looks like this giantschlong.
Um, come out in the kylie'sface.
It's just fucking.
We were dying when the photocame out.
We're sitting there pissingourselves, laughing, um, but
(44:56):
yeah.
So a fun night was ensued.
And then when we left.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Now.
This is quite bizarre, becauselast time you and I went to that
that place, we end up talkingto a guy around the same place,
we end up talking to those otherpeople.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yeah, I forgot about that.
Yeah, it's almost like youcross the road and there's
people, always stood there, butyou always get into a
conversation with strangers yeah, so there was a couple of older
ladies, um, that were actuallybasically trying to and they
were cool, cool, they were fun,right they?
Speaker 2 (45:23):
had been dancing.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
They were in the Imperial as well, right, the
Imperial where Priscilla wasfilmed, but one had a pair of
sparkly boots, so I complimentedit on her sparkly boots, so
that sort of sparked aconversation.
And she was going.
We were trying to work out whatthe situation is here.
She said we're trying to workout whether Sammy was my sister,
um, and whether you were hiswife and this and that.
(45:46):
And we were sitting there going.
Well, you got it all wrong, Isaid because, like I said, me
and Dave are friends withbenefits.
I said none of us are in arelationship with each other.
I said Fanny is in arelationship with somebody
that's home.
She said, oh, we thought youtwo might have been married and
we're sitting there going.
Oh no, she's a girl.
(46:07):
I don't like girls, yuck Right.
And then they were going.
But you two look like brotherand sister.
And then she's sitting theregoing.
We thought that you two werelike each other's wing women and
all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
It just goes to show you what people analyze.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
People were actually sort of making this whole story
up in their heads about it andthey got nothing right.
But it was like but that wasfun as well, but it was a fun
conversation it was a funconversation and stuff like that
as well.
So that was lots and lots of fun.
We love talking to randomstrangers?
Of course we do.
Yeah, some of the young girlsthought that me and Sammy were
(46:42):
together and we said no, yuck,girls, boys blech.
And then she sat there and saidI'm a lesbian and we're going.
Are you?
Are you but part of the?
Speaker 2 (46:50):
conversation we also had.
This is where this is going tolead on to the next segment,
hopefully, is.
Basically, I questioned Sammyand asked her what the dating
apps are like for girls.
Oh yeah, so this is why we wentdown this path, and she then
explained to us or she showed us, didn't she?
The platform?
I don't know what it was called.
She then explained to us, um,or she showed us and she the the
platform.
I don't know what it was called.
(47:10):
I can't remember she said itwas.
I don't know what it was called, but it's like their equivalent
of gaydar, mass divers orsomething I don't know.
I don't know um, but she showedus and matt, and I've never
sort of looked at these Ihaven't looked at a lesbian
dating app.
We don't need to go as a lesbianwhat we sort of analyzed was
it's very similar to normaldating apps in terms of yeah,
like a swipe left, swipe right,swipe left, right, but if you go
(47:30):
on to grinder for guys, it'sjust.
It's like the whole page is fullof men, pictures of like,
either profile pictures, blankprofile pictures or pictures of
people you know, inanimateobjects, whatever, but there's
like you have to click on it toopen up the actual narrative or
to see who that person is ifthere's any correlation, yeah,
which you do have to click ongrinder to see who they are, and
(47:52):
if there's any that's what I'mtalking about.
But there is.
You can see the main picturestraight away and the main
picture with the narrative and alittle narrative and and a
swipe left, swipe right and allthat kind of stuff straight away
.
But then we ask them if they dosend.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Well, because okay because for any gay men that
listen, dick pics are justsecond nature for us, right?
Or ass pics or whatever.
Yeah, ass pics, hole pics, allkinds of pics.
Right, you'll say hey, and thenyou'll go got any pics, and you
might mean a face pic orsomething like that but all of a
sudden you're getting bombardedwith dick pics and ass pics and
(48:26):
that's not a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Sometimes you just get some dick pics straight away
.
Sometimes you just get a dickpic's ass.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
A whole pic straight away.
You don't even get a hey.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
So I thought of thinking about it.
Can I look at?
Speaker 1 (48:33):
your face.
And then I thought does thathappen in the lesbian world?
So we asked the question and no, they don't send vag pics.
They don't send titty pics.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
They don that.
There's probably some that do.
Yeah, but it's not the mainthing, but it's not the pro.
They look at the pictures andthe narrative and, like sammy
was saying, sammy's got somebeautiful pictures on the
country, yeah, it's gorgeous,right, and she didn't choose to
have the most glorious pictureof her on there because people
said to her.
Well, you look too feminine forme she looks too, femme, and
it's like what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (49:05):
you know, I mean yeah correct.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
So it's very bizarre from our perspective as gay guys
to listen to that and we'vealways wanted to know these sort
of things.
So we will try and get sammyand um and carly carly to do a
podcast with us and we'll getthem to do their take on.
We'll do like boy girl, boygirl sort of questions and
answers to them, and I thinkthat would be a fun thing to do
(49:28):
yeah, because it's just like.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
It's just like it's a different world and we don't
get it.
So, yeah, we don't get it.
So the thing is, it is adifferent world and it's really
intriguing for me because againnow I want to know more about
the female apps and all thatkind of stuff as well.
Which, again, I'm guessing ourlisteners do as well.
(49:50):
Yeah for sure.
Because we were going to havemy sister on, but she hasn't
been on a lesbian app ever, no,like, not for a long time anyway
.
No, exactly as well.
So yeah, so I think.
Well, I don't know what you'rethinking about it, because
obviously this Well, yeah, I'mthinking that that's probably it
(50:10):
for this episode and the stuffthat we've actually prepped for
this episode what we'll do.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
We'll do another one, so we'll do a second part.
We'll continue with this one inthe next conversation.
So we'll be talking aboutrelationships apps and dating
apps and stuff like that.
We've already done somethingvery similar, but this is a
different take on different takeon this is.
This is just mainstream.
This is talking about, you know, not just the gay world.
It's talking about everybody's,like you know.
Uh, analogy bizarre facts.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Yeah, bizarre facts.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
And we've we've got some very, very bizarre facts in
terms of like um dating andalso people that may have like
come to a demise from differentactivities that they've got
involved with yeah, yeah.
Yeah, um, and then we'll do theletter of the day.
We'll carry on with the podcast.
It'll be a two-part one, sowe'll leave for now.
Um, I hope you've enjoyed thispart of the segment, because I
have it's been quite a lot beena great chat, but um, but
(50:56):
definitely check out thewellness thing.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
I think that's a very , very like the yoga and
wellness um festival again oninstagram and all your socials
and stuff like that.
But I cannot recommend athousand past.
Highly enough um caitlinvincent.
Um, highly enough, samhenderson.
Like, literally, if you go tothe wellness and um health, yoga
and health festival, they'llprobably have all the links to
(51:18):
those guys.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
I mean you got me sort of like intrigued and
inspired, because I mean, again,I've, I've heard it's like I
was asking about reiki lastnight.
I mean I've heard it so manytimes and I was talking to fanny
in the car and I was, becauseshe has reiki and again my
ex-wife, her mother, used tohave reiki all the time and I
don't know what my perception ofreiki was.
(51:38):
I just thought it was like yougo into a room and they they
move like sand around notreiking, you know.
I mean, I thought they were.
I thought it was like aspiritual thing where they were
moving objects around and youmeditate and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
It's all energy flows and things like that.
That's what I'm saying, butagain and again I think,
especially some of the sessionsyesterday I think you would have
really benefited from it.
I will look into it definitely.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Again I mean for me, yoga and stuff has always been
physical side to me and I don'tthink I could do the physical
thing you can back.
You'll be surprised.
Don't forget my back injury.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
The beauty, no, but the beauty of this is that and
the beauty of every singleinstructor said like here's some
basic child poses.
The child poses, this is this.
If this is too much for you,you do it at your level, right?
There was no expectation.
Like me and miami, we'refucking.
(52:30):
I'm an expert now, clearly,because I've done two sessions.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
However.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
I definitely was not an expert by any standard.
So the thing is that we werelooking at people and they were
standing up on their shouldersand they were doing all this
stuff and I'm sitting theregoing, oh my God, now these are
people that have been doing itfor years.
So they made it very clear donot compare yourself to anyone
in this room.
You do it your way.
You do it in a way that worksfor you.
(52:57):
That's going to give youbenefit, right?
So the thing is that thestretching the, the like, like I
said today, I feel fucking fit,but I feel broken.
Everything's aching.
Um, this is old age, but thisis the thing.
If I had been doing this for awhile, maybe I wouldn't feel
this way, because I know whenyou, if you don't use it, you
lose it right.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
So did they give you a uh projective, like forecast
of how long things take to youto be?
Speaker 1 (53:23):
no, and I know that's the kind of thing you want.
You want analyticals, yeah, um,but yeah, no, they don't give
you that because I thinkeveryone takes learning at their
own pace, right, okay, andthat's why I'm going to go on
like I'm going to go up to ninyoga at saint mary's, because
that's only just up the roadfrom me, right, because they
have a session.
And again, if you, go.
Speaker 2 (53:41):
Do they ever have this, like all male ones?
Speaker 1 (53:44):
yeah, they do yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, so that might
be saying that I'd be more.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
Because I know women are very much involved with yoga
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
but again from a perspective, oh, you're going to
be surprised, but even at NinYoga, like at St Mary's, if you
go onto her website, they've gota 30 days of unlimited classes
for $89.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
Okay so that's nothing but is it like an
all-male one there's.
You want to go there and pervas well.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
You want to go there just to perv?
No, I don't, but anyway, allright, we're going to wrap up
this session yeah, all right,and we will come back to part
two or a continuation.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
We won't call it part one, part two.
We'll publish them one afterthe other.
We'll put them together when wepublish them.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they'll be in order.
Part one part two, you know Imean.
So we'll see, we'll see whatthey get called.
But um, yeah, we know that aigenerates my titles now, because
if you are a listener then youknow.
Hopefully you'll get the gistof it all yeah and um yeah, but
we hope you've enjoyed today Idefinitely have.
Yep.
So, um, thank you and have ablessed day.
Namaste, namaste, bye, allright, bye.
(54:46):
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Speaker 1 (00:33):
Fully Grown Homos with Dave and Matt On today's
(01:00):
episode.
We've got a lot to cover offthis week, dave.
I thought we were going to havea really chill week, but we've
done fucking tons again.
Well, you've done a lot morethan I have.
I have I've done.
You've been a busy boy, been abusy boy, but we've done a lot
again, as per usual.
So today we're going to chatabout a few things.
I'm going to kick it off andtalk about my day yesterday.
(01:22):
You had a good day, didn't you?
I had a great day yesterday.
I um I went to a health andwellness um retreat sort of day.
Um, it was a festival festival,health and wellness, the
australian health and wellnessfestival um with miami, with
miami, and it was actually heldat the conference centre near
(01:45):
Panthers.
there it was in the Pullmanbasically.
And that venue was good when wewent to it last time to see a
band, but it was very loud lasttime, whereas this time it was
pretty much perfect for what itwas.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
So was it set up in different because I didn't go.
So was it set up in differentrooms.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
So it was set up in four different, because I didn't
go.
So was it set up in differentrooms?
So it was set up in fourdifferent rooms, okay.
And then there was some otherlittle rooms that had like
market stalls and little massageareas and some different rooms
and different things sort of setoff.
There was like a.
When you walked in, there waslike a cushion area like with
all the cushions on the ground,and there was a flutist playing
(02:24):
music there and so he thenchanged to a guitar, a flutist
flautist, I don't know a guythat plays a fucking flute.
All right, anyway, I like thatit doesn't put in his pussy, um,
okay, I'm like an american pie,um, but yeah.
So it was really really welllaid out, really really well
organized, um, so thank you tothe organizers of the health and
(02:47):
wellness festival.
Will you be?
putting a um a link to the eventwell, it's, it's only held
sorry, yoga and wellnessfestival, not health and
wellness festival.
Yoga and wellness festival um,so there is a website so that I
guess, if you want to actuallycheck it out next time around,
or it might actually move todifferent venues and I'm keen to
(03:08):
find it if it does, because ifit does, I'll definitely go and
check it out in different venuesas well.
Yogawellnessfestivalcomau andit was a full-on day.
It's actually a two-day event,but me and Miami only went for
one day.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
So what sort of prices are people looking at for
this?
So so for the one day it wasabout 100 bucks, which is pretty
good for all that, because youwere there, for you were there
for literally eight hours fromyeah from literally eight
o'clock in the morning all theway through to bloody five
o'clock.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Well, it actually went till six o'clock, I think
it was and you had a choice ofwhat seminars you went to.
Well, you had four differentrooms, so you so you had move,
you had heal, inspire and groundright, and so they had
different things in every singleroom.
So they had things like yogaclasses.
Inspire was all about peoplegetting up there and talking
(03:58):
about their inspirationaljourneys and sort of what you
can do better in your lifepotentially Not telling you what
you can do better, because theyacknowledged very much that it
was their own personal journeysand stuff like that.
So that was actually reallygood.
Then ground was all about sortof grounding yourself, like here
was about some healing ofyourself and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
So look, what were the demographics of people like?
Were they old, young?
Speaker 1 (04:24):
It was mixed it was really, really mixed.
Okay, um, look, I thought I'dbe the only guy there and I
wasn't.
There was some young yogi typeguys there, yeah, but there were
some older guys that you wouldlook at, um, and like you'd look
at them if they were panthers,and you go oh yeah, they're
rough head guys and you'd go ohwow, you're here.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
They're roughhead, guys and stuff like that.
Oh really, okay.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So people that you wouldn't really, and you'd go oh
wow, you're here doing yoga.
Yeah, which was really quitegood, especially from myself,
because I kind of went, I wasinterested in it?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, because you'd mentioned this before.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
But I kind of went more as a support person for
Miami yeah Right, because Ithought she wanted to do it and
I thought, yeah, okay, it looksfun and I love a festival and
things like that.
So I and I love a market storebecause I love buying.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
You're not averse to doing sort of like no, no, I
love, I love wellness and allthat.
Yeah, I do love wellness.
You have done that in the pastI have done it in the past.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I'm definitely a gym person and everyone does all
that.
Um, however, I have never donea yoga class in my life.
I've always wanted to, but itjust never presented itself.
And any time that I'd thoughtabout doing it, I looked at the
pricing and went, nah, that's abit much for that.
Right, I can join a gym and pay30 bucks for the whole week.
(05:39):
Why would I pay 50 for twoclasses?
Yeah, yeah, but I kind of getit now.
I kind of get it because you'renot just getting a gym workout,
although, holy fuck, you'regetting a gym workout, right, it
was insane, like so, the firstsession I did and I'm not going
to go session by session bysession by session, right,
because otherwise we'll be hereall day, um, but I did two yoga
(06:02):
classes throughout the day, oneat the very beginning and then
one at the end, and I say we did, sorry, two different types,
two completely different types,and don't ask me what they are
like.
I do have a description of themin my phone, but again, that'll
take us to tomorrow.
But because I also don't knowhow to read half of the words,
(06:23):
like they did this vinyasa yogaor something like that.
I don't know how to read halfof the words.
They did this vinyasa yoga orsomething like that, I don't
know.
Anyway, but I did these twodifferent sessions.
The first one was, I want tosay, easier.
It was still tough, right, Ikind of went oh God, okay, I
didn't expect yoga to bechallenging because I thought it
was all like hippie guru,downward dog, which you know
(06:45):
very well yeah, I do.
I thought you were able to showthem a few things oh yeah so but
um, so it sort of did thatfirst session.
It was good, it was really good.
Um then we did a couple ofinspire sessions with a couple
of talks, um with with caitlinvincent, who was great.
She does you Go Girl and you GoSis, which are basically
(07:06):
self-empowering sessions andwebsites.
She has her own podcast as well.
Awesome, and she was great.
It probably wasn't for me.
That session wasn't for me.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Or maybe you weren't ready for it.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
No, no, no, it was a lot around the menstrual cycle
and stuff like that.
Right okay, fair enough, yeah,and there was a lot of getting
in touch with your sexuality andyour femininity and stuff like
that.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, it can't work for men as well, which is fine,
yeah yeah, she definitelytargeted the male audience as
well, not with.
Definitely targeted the maleaudience as well, not with the
periods, obviously, but no, well, well, no, she did say that we
have cycles, that men havecycles as well, so she was
actually very clever she's comefrom a teaching background an
education background.
Yep and um very good at what shedoes and her energy levels were
(07:57):
insane she wasn't you got to beto be yeah, yeah, in that sort
of industry, in that um, butthey weren't overwhelming insane
, they were just that rightbalance.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, so she was really really inclusive, but I'm
taking control, yeah yeah, um,so she was great as well.
Um, like, we went and seen sam,which was like connecting with
my authentic self.
Sam henderson, um, he's a lifecoach and stuff like that as
well.
Yep, um, that was great as well.
But again, that was ameditation sort of state thing
(08:26):
and I kind of might have noddedoff on that because the noise in
the back of the room.
We decided we'd sit in the backof the room and the door kept
opening and closing.
So I got distracted at thebeginning because ADHD me right
finds it hard to focus at bestat times, as you may have known,
if you listen to this podcast,um and um.
So I was not really listeningto that because I was getting
(08:50):
annoyed by the door opening andclosing and thinking just
fucking put a block out periodlike or lock it, lock the
fucking door so no other fuckercan come in here, right, um, so
I can focus on what I'm supposedto focus on here.
But as a result, I had a greatnap.
So were they playing like musicand stuff in the background yeah
, yeah yeah, so there was your,um, your sort of very subtle
(09:11):
undertones of music and because,um, like sam's session was
hypnotic yeah, right, so it wasactually, and it was hypnosis,
um, as such, and a very lighthypnosis you know all about that
I do.
Yeah, but I nobody got draggedup on the front to be a chicken
this time unfortunately or amuscle man or a conductor or
anything like that.
Yeah, like I did on the cruise.
No, but it was hypnotic and itwas very calming, okay, and as a
(09:36):
result, I had some greatsnoring.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Did you use any sort of like visual things?
Yeah, yeah, took you through awhole period of that?
But also, do you know when youhold different objects,
inanimate objects, to bring youinto a different?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
realm, like a crystal or something like that.
No, no, we didn't use any ofthat in the session.
Okay, but again, what he tookus through I can't really say,
because I kind of fell asleep.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
No, I fell asleep.
Oh, I know that one.
The other other one you talkedabout.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, the other one.
Okay, and then I'm going tojump back to that.
We did a sound healing as well,right, which was great.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Not sounding, but sound healing.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Sound healing with Christy Lee Dinovich right and
she was really really lovely aswell.
Her energy again.
A lot of the people that dothis wellness.
They don't do it because it's aprofitable thing.
No, they do it because this iswho they're meant to be.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
This is the one you're telling me about from
richmond that no, this is adifferent.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
So I'm going to jump back because I definitely want
to dive a little bit into thatone.
Okay, um, but chris, the soundhealing was great with christy
lee, um, and she was very calmand and it was very calm and it
was very relaxing and sort ofgentle and sort of laying on the
ground.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
How was Miami throughout this process?
She was phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
So Miami, as you know and as anyone that knows her,
she loves a chat right andbetween her and me, and I've
seen a meme on Facebook theother day and it says like other
people's story, and it's likeone railway track, and then it's
like ADHD people's storytellingand there's like literally a
(11:11):
thousand tracks and I actuallyput a comment on that yeah, but
where's the station?
Me and her together in a room.
Normally we don't shut up andwe never finish a conversation,
but it's a fun though.
Oh, it's great, it's great.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
But it's a fun though .
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Oh, it's great, it's great, it's great, great, great,
great great, but we never, everfinish a conversation.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Well, no, I've never heard you ever finish a
conversation.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Fuck you um you're right, but fuck you.
But um, but together, like, butwe were both well, she was very
calm throughout the day andstuff like that.
So we were there on a healingjourney.
Yeah, right, so Right.
So so we were taking itseriously, but we still had so
many laughs and so much fun,which is good.
You need that, cause we did,cause that's us to a T anyway,
(11:54):
yeah, um, but yeah she, she gota lot out of the day as, and I
definitely.
And then, like I said, thatlast yoga session oh my God, my
fucking body is aching today.
I didn't know yoga.
I didn't touch him.
Honestly, correct, I did notknow yoga could be hard work and
(12:14):
it was for the best possiblereasons.
Now, as a result of thesecouple of yoga sessions, I'm now
going to go and open a yogaretreat, because that's what my
ADHD is yeah, your ADHD iskicking in already.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
I'm now going to go and open a yoga retreat, because
that's what my ID is.
Yeah, your ADHD is kicking inalready.
I'm going to hyper-focus onthis yoga.
So Matt's already spent hisnext week's allowance, his next
year's pay package, which he'llput in the garage and forget
about.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I've opened up a yoga retreat in Bali this afternoon
and I'll be an instructor by theend of the week, because that's
the way you operate.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
I love your enthusiasm, enthusiasm.
But sometimes your enthusiasmtakes over and before you know,
you've got a garage full ofstuff.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Hey, if my over enthusiasm didn't actually start
.
This podcast would never havecome into play, very true very
true, so and so would a lot ofthings in our life.
I'm not knocking it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I think it's great, but sometimes I have to roll my
eyes because you go, you say afew things, oh my god, what
other subject matter can youcome into?
to play with and I'm like, ohwow, because I literally have no
time in my life as well mattcan be the only one that go in
to buy tissues, say, and thencome out with a whole bathroom
set or something like that,saying completely random, saying
(13:18):
different.
He'll walk past the shop and go, holy fuck, I need that in my
life and I'll go and fucking buyeverything, yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Yeah, but look, the thing is that I and again I've
just I'm not a massive footyhead, right, I do enjoy football
, right.
I couldn't sit there and tellyou every rule or anything.
I know the basic ones and allthat kind of stuff, right, and
the players and some of theplayers, right, but again, I
couldn't tell you who they allare or anything like that.
They all are Now because of mylocale.
(13:42):
Now Penrith is my team, right,so Parramatta have been my team
my whole life, right, but let'sface it, they never win anything
.
But I went to the Panthers gamelast week, as you guys heard,
and that with Manly.
But I decided when I'd seen theVegas jerseys that I wanted one
right Now.
(14:03):
They haven't been availableanywhere, but I found a place
where they're available so I hadto buy one.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Now, I'm just laughing completely off the
topic anyway, but yeah so soyeah, my hope adhd brain.
Why I never get to the end of astory, guys?
Because he never goes off on atangent.
Anyway, tell, tell us about thejersey.
Anyway, you may as well.
So I've got one and I'm goingto go and pick it up today.
That was completely irrelevant,but there you go.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
However, back to the Yoga and Wellness Festival.
Welcome back, hello.
I do get back to them sometimes, especially if I've got a piece
of paper in front of me thatsays focus on this.
So my session of the day allright was definitely.
It was with oh, and I just hadwhat do you do?
(14:50):
Why do you do that to me?
Um, okay, it was.
It was called um sacred breathhealing your inner child.
Right, with michelle dieball.
Right, she's a health andwellness practitioner, she's
from Richmond.
She's out at Richmond, Okaythat's Richmond New.
South Wales, yeah, new SouthWales, right, but she has a
(15:11):
website, an Instagram, right?
It's called 1000paths, right?
So 1000 as in A, and then 1000,the number, but it's actually
in letters and then paths.
Why is that hard to sayP-A-t-h-s like as in the path,
yeah, paths right yeah, um, it'sjust hard to say right, it's
okay she does.
(15:32):
Um, so miami went to her forsome reiki, okay, yep, right,
and she spoke about breath workand things like that.
Yep so one-on-one so that wasone-on-one.
She did that, miami did, and umwas that was that included in
the actual cost?
Speaker 2 (15:49):
no, no this was a bit .
This is oh, you see, oh, soshe's seen her before.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Okay, that's what brought us to this actual
festival, right, okay, yeah, allright, that makes sense now.
So we signed up for this.
We, we would go into thissession.
We made sure we got there niceand early and we would
definitely go into this sessionbecause that's the session we
wanted to go to.
Yep, and, as it turns out,that's the session that everyone
wanted to go to, because it waschock-a-block full.
Right right now, I'm a bitskeptical, right, I definitely
(16:19):
go into things with open mindyeah however, I go in there
thinking we'll see, yep right.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So, like you know, to believe it is yeah, yeah to him
now breath work.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I hadn't really heard much about, right, but you sit
there and they take you through.
Now it was michelle.
There was a couple of otherpeople that were also working
with michelle and I've not gottheir names with me, but if you
go to her website a thousandpaths no doubt you'll be able to
connect in with all of them.
Yep, um, but this session thatthey run, or they ran, um, you
(16:53):
lay down, they take you throughsome breathing, they explain
what's going to happen as far aswhat breaths they're going to
get to do and all that kind ofstuff, and then they start
taking you through the breathingpattern and it's like four
breaths in through you know, no,it breathe in on the four
breath, like not four breaths tothe count of four on your nose.
You hold it for four, youbreathe out before you hold,
(17:14):
then breathe in, breathe out,okay, and I'm not going to go
through the whole processbecause they did it and I don't
really know the whole process.
Yep, um, but then they take you, um, on a bit of a journey with
healing your inner child, right, and there were certain parts
of it, and I'm sitting there andI'm going, okay, but the
(17:35):
breathing almost takes you intoa subconscious state of mind.
Right, so you're definitelyconscious, but it's almost
subconscious state of mind andthey tell you to picture your
child, your inner child, who isyou as a younger child?
Right Now I don't, and for alot of my friends and family
(17:58):
they know that I don't reallyremember my childhood at all.
Right, and it's not okay.
Now, to my knowledge, it's notbecause of anything traumatic or
anything like that.
I just don't remember it.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I've just said okay, that's too busy playing in the
gardens.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah, I don't know I've got a great life.
Now I don't need to go back andregress.
I don't know what the fuck Iwas doing then, right, yeah, but
I know what that child lookedlike because I've got photos of
him, right.
So when they said, look, youknow, go back to your inner
child, blah, blah, blah and soon and so forth, and whatever
instructions they were giving, Icould picture this child and I
said, what are they doing?
So I kind of looked at thischild, which was me, and he was
(18:36):
playing with this like woodentruck, right, that was like
those wooden trucks that had theshapes, right, and all that
kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
And he was playing with it, but he was playing with
it by himself.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Okay, all right, and I'm sitting there and I'm going
like, and they're going, whatare you doing there?
And they were taking youthrough different stages and
stuff like that, and they werebasically asking you to welcome
him.
And there was a stage therewhere, basically, I could
clearly see him standing over me, right, and it was just like I
don't want to go into it becauseI'll get emotional right
(19:09):
because it was very emotional.
But then there were some momentsin it where I sat there and I
really went like and especiallyafter I was crying, like I was
actually sobbing throughout,like there was a part I was
actually sobbing throughout.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
There was a part of it where they were asking you to
You're almost releasing your,your inner child, inner child,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah, and you're basically asking them to help
you heal now pretty much, yeah,definitely.
And again, I don't know thewhole part of it.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
But what it has done.
Everybody in there would havehad different stories as well.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
They've all had different reactions and
different emotions, differentthings, so it was all different
for everyone.
Yep um, but, like I said, Ijust for myself and and I'm not
going to speak on behalf ofmiami so how far away from
everybody were you?
Speaker 2 (19:56):
were you in your own little area, in your own space,
on your own yoga mat?
Speaker 1 (19:59):
okay, as such, right um, but like there was a memory
that flashed to myself right, um, and like, as I think about it
more, there are more memoriesthat are sort of coming which is
good yeah but the thing is thatthere was, as a child, my
younger sister couldn't say myname properly.
All right, in a good way or abad way no, in in a good way
(20:20):
right so the way she used to sayit right and I'm not going to
mention it on here my youngersister.
Okay, yeah, right, um, so shecouldn't say it properly.
So she used to say it in acertain way, because my name's
matthew, right, but she used tosay that sounded something
similar, right, but it wasn't,and so that ended up being.
My whole family thought thatwas hysterical when she said it
(20:40):
when she was younger, so thatthen became my nickname, okay,
and it was my nicknamethroughout my whole life for a
while there right now, how doyou feel about that?
My mom.
It was fun.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Okay, actually, it used to annoy you, but she right
, okay you weren't offended byit, then no, no, no, it wasn't
offended, but no but it was.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
It was my nickname, it's just what they used to say,
okay, and, but it hasn't beenin my mind in eternity, so
there's no way or no reason forit to come up right.
So for this to come out of thismoment, there's some
significance to it.
(21:16):
Yeah, there's trigger points,and so it's sort of making me go
down a path of thinking well,if this has unlocked this, what
else is there that I actuallyneed to unlock to?
Speaker 2 (21:27):
heal, but you're also focusing on yourself, which you
don't necessarily do.
I don't do that.
I know most people don't.
That's what I'm saying.
So these things are very, verypoignant to self-healing, like
you said, because they make youstart analysing your whole self
and we forget about our youthand our young versions of
ourselves.
Yeah, and they can be greatmemories.
They could be bad memories.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
They could be.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
But you need to cleanse yourself from them or
you need to reinvent your mind.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Well, some of the stuff that they talked about was
shame, right as an inner childof shame.
Yeah, it was one of theemotions that they talked
through.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
So how long would they let you dwell on these
things for before they moved on?
I don't know it wasn't long, Idon't think.
But did it flow naturally fromone to the other?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Well, they said, like you know, feelings of love,
feelings of shame feelings ofloss, feelings of such and such.
It was up to you to focus onwhich one it was up to you which
one you Right, and then shejust correlated the emotions,
because you're talking aboutprobably about 60, 70 people in
(22:31):
the room on the yoga mats, soshe sort of would go through it.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
But was it all quiet?
It was very quiet.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
No music playing Music, okay, yeah, but breath
through the hole the guy thatwas in there helping her, and
again I wish I had his name?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Did you have your eyes closed, do you remember?
Okay, so you were justliterally in your own world.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
You were in a subconscious state.
Yeah, okay, but he was takingthe whole time.
He had his own mic and he wouldhave his breath work.
And then the other girl thatwas in there, she was taking
through emotions.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
So there was sounds of crying, so you had three
different people playing theparts Three different people
orchestrating this event.
Okay, it's just like a littleplay on words.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
It was and it was a session, a proper healing
session.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
And how long?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
was this session for About 45 minutes to an hour.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Okay, cool Right.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
But then like there was, like it was just it was
changing, but it's put up somany questions for me, that's
something psychologists shoulduse.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
They should use that sort of teaching, I think.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Now, apart from the actual emotional side and this
is why I kind of want to delvedeeper because, as I was laying
there when we're going throughthese things, there was also
physical pain.
So I was feeling and yes, I'ddone a yoga session earlier, but
I was actually feeling my hipsand like just around sort of the
(23:52):
top end of my buttocks and myhips, there was burning,
physical pain.
So I know I'm smiling andlaughing because my mind is now
going off, I know, but this is,and this is where I'm actually
now sitting there thinking isthere trauma that I need to
unpack?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
No, I think you're actually having a baby.
I'm definitely not.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
But this is where okay, so you're 100% right in
the same feeling, because thisis where I was actually wiggling
my legs, wiggling my knees, myback, my hips, trying to get out
of that uncomfortable positionwhich was just laying flat on a
floor but it wasn'tuncomfortable birth.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Maybe you you felt that when you were being
delivered.
Maybe maybe, maybe, I don'tknow.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I honestly don't know .
But this is and this is why Ineed to unpack it further with
michelle um dieball and herwebsite and her team a thousand
paths, because it was fuckinginsane.
Now I just want to go back onesecond, because there is one
lesson that I actually took outof it and I think for all of our
listeners right and for all ofmy friends, I'm going to be
(24:54):
passing this lesson on for along time.
Right, there is michelle, I'mnot michelle, sorry.
Caitlyn vincent um caitlyn,caitlyn, caitlyn vincent.
Yeah, caitlyn vincent, rightagain.
Look up her.
You go girl and you go bro.
Right, caitlin Vincent, caitlin, caitlin, caitlin Vincent.
Yeah, caitlin Vincent.
Right Again, look up herYouGoGirl and YouGoBro website.
But she taught us this onething, and I don't know why.
I'm a 53-year-old man, I don'tknow why it hasn't happened to
(25:15):
me or why I haven't actuallythought about it previously.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I haven't thought about it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
But there is something you're allowed to say
and it's no right and it doesn'tneed any justification.
Justification any further,infant.
If it's not serving you, well,right, you're actually allowed
to say no right to things.
Right.
Whether it be somebody askingyou to go somewhere, to do
(25:42):
something that you just don'tfeel in your gut is right for
you, you're allowed to say no.
And if somebody gets unhappy,pissed off, that's their emotion
.
That's not for you to actuallymake them feel comfortable.
Because, and look, I don'tthink.
And I was chatting with some ofthe guys last night and they
(26:05):
said that doesn't sit well withme.
No, I can't say no.
And some of the people werewith last night and we'll go
into last night soon but theysaid I'm a people pleaser, I
can't say no.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
And this is exactly right.
When you're that sort of liketype of person personality.
You're very empathetic, you'revery much a people pleaser.
Like you said, it's innate intoyour bloodstream that you will
always do what you can to helpother people first.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, but how about you?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
And this is exactly right.
Well, I'm the same as well.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Yeah, no, but I mean you, but I mean you yourself.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
How about yourself Exactly?
We don't give ourselves time.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Because you're saying yes to everything.
Right, and yes, I'll be there.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, but it might be at the expense of your energy
and this is your personal slaveand our friend Anne from the
club she's like that, she'sgoing through her own personal
battles.
at the moment she's a beautiful,beautiful lady and you know she
puts her heart and soul intoeverybody.
Even though she's got personalissues and health issues at the
moment of herself, she's stillfocusing on other people and we
(27:06):
keep on saying to her you've gotto love yourself and you've got
to be able to put yourselffirst, because you'll never heal
properly otherwise.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
So no is the one lesson I would love everyone to
take out of this.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And just yeah, fuck it quitehonestly, but yeah, All right,
honestly, but yeah, all right,so that's enough.
That's good.
I'm glad you enjoyed it and I'mglad great day um, like yoga
and wellness festival, so that'sa good birthday treat, isn't it
?
I suppose, yeah, anybody'sstruggling to find treats or
birthdays christmas is becausethere's something there for
everyone as well, like,literally, you can buy gift
(27:37):
cards or whatever I wouldimagine so, but like the thing
is that, like there's, there'stwo days of this thing Now, I
only went to one day right Now.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Retrospectively I'm going to both days next year,
but was it?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
the same again.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
No, no, no, they're different sessions.
Oh well, there you go.
Today's sessions were like yogadreaming there was like a line
of arms.
Was Miami going to this one?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
No, no, okay.
Is it the same cover the costor is it separate days?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
no, there's, it's like it's.
It was like 135 if you did theboth day pass.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
That's a great.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
So that's a set there and I get like, but next time
I'm doing both days, so maybeyou can buy all of us.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yep, yeah, maybe we should all go.
Yeah, we can all learn.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
But I'm definitely next time around gonna lock in a
whole weekend and what otherpeople ask me for on the Sunday
or the other day that it's on.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I'm just going to say no, can I ask what you're going
to buy prior to going into thisnext session?
Fuck you, probably yoga pants.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Exactly, I was going to say are you going to buy
these yoga pants Because I'mgoing to go and sign up for yoga
?
So there's a yoga in my localarea called Nin Yoga and I
literally have gone through someof the classes since being
there yesterday.
And, um, I didn't get to go toany of her sessions, but she was
delightful.
She's the one of the ladiesthat I bought my um, my yoga
bolster, from um, what's a yogabolster?
(28:52):
Man?
It's, oh, it's so cool.
It's a big bolster.
It has a handle on the end.
So what is a bolster?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
so you can sit on.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
No, you can sit on it .
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You can use it through different poses and
throughout the yoga session.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Pillows a big pillow, yeah, but it's got like a
handle on the end, so my balanceain't great, all right.
So for yoga, yeah, a lot ofpeople have the yoga blocks,
which we now have as well,because because miami bought the
blocks okay matt will have hisown store there this time.
I told you I'm having a fuckingold retreat, um, but but yeah,
(29:22):
so anyway, I'm definitely doingthe two-day next week enjoyed
yourself we definitely did andthat was definitely so what else
did we do, dave what?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
else did we do?
Yesterday?
My day was big, your day washuge.
What?
Speaker 1 (29:33):
did, we do last night .
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Well, we met up with our friend sammy.
Yay, it was sammy's birthday.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Well, it's going to be her birthday on monday so it
is always a delight to meet upwith sammy, because she is a
fucking like.
We met sammy through fanny yeahright, who you'd know from dick
, and fanny yeah um, and she.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
We met her and we gelled with her straight away.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, she's, she's just a beautiful human.
Yeah, right, like a lot of umpeople sorry, dick and fanny's,
because Dick and Franny are bothamazing people.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Well, yeah all our friends are.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
So, yeah, they are, they really are, but like so we
met up with her Yep and weinstantly clicked.
So we love her, so anyopportunity we get to catch up.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
So we went out to Newtown, which is in Sydney area
.
Yep, we went to the Bank Hotel,yep Right, we Went to the bank
hotel, yep Right, had a drink.
But she invited like 12 friends, didn't she?
Yep, yep, Three of themcouldn't come because, obviously
, having COVID.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
They haven't been well COVID and flu and all that.
So she said, no, you can't come, yep.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
So what was the whole purpose of this get together,
apart from that?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So this was Sammy, who is 43 on Monday.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Yep, it was her first birthday so, dave, let's
explain that for our listeners.
Yep, so sammy, her whole lifeum has celebrated her birthday
on the 24th of may of may rightso that's the only day that
she's ever known yeah, a fewdays, a few years ago, she got
told by her so-called biologicalmother, which again, yeah, this
(31:03):
is her words, her wordsquestionable, and she won't mind
us saying that.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
You know that she was actually born on the 16th of
may, right?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
what the fuck I think it changed to another day as
well, after that as well, butthen she's found out that she
did some more digging.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
she wanted to get some more digging, so she
actually got a birth certificateand all that kind of stuff and
she actually found out thatshe's born on the 4th.
The 4th no the 5th the 6th, the6th, whatever day, monday is.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
No 5th, 5th, 5th of May so that's actually
officially tomorrow, right?
Speaker 1 (31:34):
So she's now celebrating.
She's taken it in a stride.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
She's taken it in a stride.
She was having a great timelast night, wasn't she?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
And she decided well, fuck it, I'm going to celebrate
my birthday.
So, technically, this is goingto be her very first birthday,
her first real birthday.
So happy first birthday toSammy From us all.
But what did we do?
We, we do.
We went to the Bank Hotel, yeah, which is a great bar, great
hotel.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Now, if you've never been to Newtown, it's a very
cosmopolitan.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Yeah, it used to be a big lesbian bar.
That's all the people used togo there.
But now everyone goes therebecause it's such a cool bar and
all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
It's a cool vibe and stuff.
It is a great vibe.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
It's got an upstairs we Great food.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
We'll talk about food later on, won't?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
we.
We've eaten food from therebefore right, we have yeah, but
we met some awesome people thatagain through, I guess Dick and
Fanny.
Essentially yeah, but they wereSammy's friends.
So, my God, her friend thesupermodel.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Sammy's friend.
Yeah, Kylie, oh my God.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Oh my God, yeah, kylie.
Oh my god, oh my god, yeah, sheis.
We've seen this woman walkingwith sammy and I went oh my god
how tall she is.
She's like six foot one, sixfoot but six foot right, but
just glamour, personified, justbeautiful model material,
jessica roe sort of style right,I can't believe her age.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
I didn't know.
She's just got a 20 year oldson.
Yes, she had 20 something yearson, yeah, and I was like holy
fuck, yeah, she's just, she'sjust beautiful, and then she's
also a fucking amazing personwith so much fun.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Yeah, good, dance like was having a ball and just
really enjoying being herself.
Right, because she came outlate didn't she as well?
Yeah, chatting to everyone andall that kind of stuff.
Um, but just an absolutelyhuman, amazing human, yep, um,
but just gorgeous.
I don't think she gets howpretty she is either.
I don't think.
I don't think she just gets howgorgeous she actually is either
(33:33):
, because, like, because she isa stunner, she's definitely holy
, she's up there with the sortof a-list models.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
she's just beautiful.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I sat there and I, and I don't think she gets it,
which is again a shame, but atthe same time it's not she's
modest, you know, because she'slike totally modest she was just
lovely, absolutely delightfulas a human.
And then we met trev, who's umsammy's ex-husband.
Yeah, pre pre-semi becoming alesbian, yeah, and he was, I
thought he was fantastic.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
he was a bit shy at first, which is understandable.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Right, because he didn't know everyone Right, but
he was fucking funny.
He was awesome, I got alongwith him like a house on fire.
I think he's a top bloke, yeah,and just a really nice guy.
Quite good looking too, justsaying you won't be able to turn
him?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
No, no, no.
If they come to me and theywant something, something, I'll
give them something somethingMore like if they come on you.
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Well, they can come on me, in me, out me over me,
but we also had other friends,but he was awesome as well.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
And then I had Joel.
We met Joel, who was anotherlovely guy that Sammy worked
with as well, who again didn'tget to chat to him much but has
something, because it was hard,because we were on two different
tables.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Weren't we sitting close by?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
yeah, sitting close by, but it was hard,
conversations were but he wasfor the, for the little bits of
chat that we had.
He was again a really nice yep,decent human well arranged.
I'm good look, another goodlooking guy as well, quite a
good looking guy.
Um, um, and then we had tina,tina, tina, who was there, and
she had her son with her as well, and I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
We know his name begins with D.
It starts with a D, but I can'tremember.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
He was a really polite, friendly kid.
But he wanted to come outbecause it was Sammy's birthday.
Yeah he wanted to come out andcelebrate Sammy's birthday with
her as well, which was great,and Tina, again, another
gorgeous woman.
Yeah, it was just like I didn'tthink she would be able to, but
(35:30):
I think the key to being whatwe think is beautiful is your
confidence.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, your personality type and just being
a genuinely nice human.
Yeah, and Sammy has managed todo that.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
She's surrounded herself with really good people,
and she said that to us lastnight.
She said she's in the happiestplace she's ever been.
She's the happiest place she'sbeen in her life, which is
amazing to see.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
And this is it.
I mean, you get to a point inyour life where you think, okay,
what can I do better?
But if you've got people aroundyou that you're happy with,
then that's all you need.
Yep, that's all you life.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (36:04):
I mean so we went down and we had dinner at the
bank hotel.
Yep, now we looked at the menu.
We'd been to the bank hotelbefore and we looked at the menu
and we kind of went ah, this isdifferent than it used to be.
Well, sort of, I mean theoption was different, but so we
ordered a few things off themenu and stuff like that.
We ordered, like the beefskewers and the flatbread.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
It's almost like the appetizer sort of thing, but
they come out in there.
It's all like there's enough toshare.
It's a share plate.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
The cauliflower type thing and all that comes out.
So we ordered lots of food, afew things a burrata and all
that right.
And it was sensational Likeevery single bit of food that
got delivered to the table wasfucking sensational right now.
Sammy was in charge of orderingfor her and her ex-husband that
right.
So she went onto the app andshe'd been on the app earlier
but couldn't work it out right,um, and so she pressed order on
(36:57):
whatever she thought she'dordered right.
And next minute they boughtover a jug of beer.
She's gone, huh.
And they went.
Well, yeah, sammy, she didn'trealise that was still in the
order from the last time thatshe'd ordered right.
So, anyway, so they've got okaycool, paid for it.
Might as well drink it right.
So they were drinking theirbeers and all that kind of stuff
(37:18):
, and then next minute herentree turned up.
What was her entree?
Dave?
Speaker 2 (37:26):
I can't remember what did she order?
A scallop Scallops, that'sright, scallops.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Now on the picture.
To be fair to her, the pictureshowed three scallops on a plate
.
However, in the text it saidone piece.
Bring a single he said you'veordered a scallop and she's
going a scallop and she lookedat it she looked and think of
what the fuck a scallop.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
And then I got worried that that's all she'd
actually ordered and I thoughtoh god, you know so then I
looked on the menu and I went no, it definitely says one piece
um so she laughed about that.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
That was a bit comical, right?
Did she enjoy it though?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't knowhow much can you taste when
you're eating one scallop, Iknow right, but I think she said
it was nice.
Okay, but it looked nice enough.
But then, sitting there, hermain came up, which was the
barramundi Yep, and it wasreally nice.
Now, her and her ex, they getalong like a house on fire still
(38:20):
, because, like, the only reasonthey probably separated is
because she likes girls.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Yeah, um right um.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
So therefore, like you know, um, they've, they've.
There's zero animosity therebecause they're both top humans,
right, um, but like her maincome, but he was picking at her
food and all that kind of stuffand sharing stuff across the
table, like we were throwinglike bits of freaking hang on,
not throwing bits of bread, butoffering it was offering bits of
bread and chips and all thatkind of stuff that was on the
(38:47):
table.
So he was picking along and hehad these barramundi, she had
her barramundi and eating littlebits of it and he was tasting
it and that and sitting thereand going where's his steak?
Because she had actually saiddid anyone order the steak?
And none of us ordered thesteak.
Oh, it didn't give us theoption to say medium, well done,
how you'd like it cooked, oranything like that.
(39:08):
So she spoke to one of thestaff members, didn't?
she, so she spoke to one of thestaff and she said I've ordered
a steak but it didn't give methe options.
And she said oh, normally itdoes.
She said what did you order?
And she said I'll go and tellthem how you want it cooked.
So the staff member went andtold the kitchen supposedly how
(39:29):
they wanted it cooked, and allthat.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
We carried on eating, drinking, talking.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
And then about a half an hour later.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
It was literally a long time after.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Yeah, trevor said I still haven't got my steak.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
And he said I wasn't hungry at that point.
Yeah, by where's?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
my fucking still haven't got my steak right.
And he said I wasn't hungry atthat point.
Yeah, by that stage he wasn'thungry because he'd already
picked everyone else's food.
And so he called over thisyoung guy who was again super
helpful, right.
He went back to the kitchen.
He says where's the steak?
Blah, blah, blah.
And so they've looked.
And then she's come back overand he's gone.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Oh, they've forgotten are you sure you've ordered?
Speaker 1 (39:59):
he said he said I'm so sorry they've forgotten about
it.
We'll do it now.
We'll do it now.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Then she said don't worry, I don't want it because
I'll have a refund.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Can we just get a refund instead?
Speaker 2 (40:06):
And he said okay, that's fine, We'll give it to
the staff members to eat becausewe don't want to waste the food
.
So they were really good aboutit, weren't they?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:17):
And then so he's gone .
Have you got?
He said, okay, well, just showme and we'll organise a refund.
Well, she went into the app.
There was no steak there.
She didn't order it.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
And in the meantime they cook the steak for the
staff.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
They cook the steak for the staff, so they got to
eat it anyway.
But poor Trev sitting theregoing hungry no, he wasn't going
hungry, but it was fuckinghysterical because then he was
sitting there going you inviteme to your birthday birthday.
Then don't even order my dinnerfor me.
It's given him heaps, and sowe're telling him about how good
the kebab shop was down theroad and stuff like that.
Yeah but we, that was fun, thatwas a lot of fun.
(40:52):
Yeah, yeah.
But then we went down to theimperial yep, watched um a drag
show.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
But well before we went down, I went to the toilet
with sam, I remember, and therewas an incident in the male
toilets where the two, um thetwo, cubicles.
Yeah, I don't know what happened, so I went in there and I
walked in, I didn't realize theurinals were to the right hand
side as you walk in the urinalsfor anyone speaks australian and
basically, um, the two cubiclessorry, two cubicles were both
(41:19):
closed, so there's obviouslysomething in there.
But there was another guy stoodoutside but he was having a
direct chat with one of theother people inside one of them,
okay, and the other one washaving a direct chat with the
other person inside as well, soit was like a three-way
conversation happening in thetoilets, okay and then he then
went outside.
The guy stood outside, wentoutside and I carried on pissing
and you know, just lookingaround seeing who else is in
(41:40):
there as you do and um, twoother guys came in, went to have
a pee and everything else, thenwalk out, and I came out and
then obviously sammy hadn'tfinished and she came out after
me.
Then she said when she wentback out the guy was outside
there and he asked her if shewas involved with the the
toilets.
I think, okay, it was like itwas bizarre.
(42:00):
I'll have to correlate and seewhat sammy was talking about,
but the way it went was was sheinvolved with what's happening
in the toilets, in the male'stoilets, and what was happening
in the toilets?
Speaker 1 (42:09):
I don't know no one knows.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
No, because it was closed and they were still there
when I left, okay, and I knowthere was no glory holes because
I had used those bathroomsearlier.
Oh, had you yeah.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
No, well, no toilet.
But I noticed and I needed abig fart.
And you know when you need abig fart, you're not sure
whether it's a fart or not.
So I thought, oh, you know,better better be safe than sorry
.
Yeah, um, but yeah, so, butyeah, so there was like okay, no
glory holes in there.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
I thought maybe it might be no, no, no, definitely
not they were doing something inthere because they were very
well they were doing.
They were very verbal okay butnot in a high pitch, or you know
just having chats?
Yeah, okay, I assume they kneweach other.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Maybe, maybe, or maybe they didn't maybe they
were getting to know, maybe theymet each other behind closed
doors.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Maybe, maybe, maybe.
This is where the relationshipstarts, matt the dating apps,
and that's what we're gonna talk.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
I think we're gonna talk about relationships,
because I hope so.
We'll just talk abouteverything else.
Anyway, I know right, but yougo on, that's all right.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yes, all right, but we went from there to the
Imperial Imperial, yeah, watchedthe drag show, had some drinks.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
It was good fun.
There had a dance.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
I love it down there.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
I love it down there.
The vibe is always so good.
Yeah, got a really good tablesitting at the front there,
cleared the dance floor and allthat waited and waited drank
more tried to listen to eachother's conversations over the
sound of everything else, but itwas fun.
It was fun, you got up, and yougot up and danced.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
There was lots of conversations, but on the way
out, we decided to have somephotographs taken, didn't we?
Speaker 1 (43:34):
oh yeah, we took we took, you know, the photo booth,
photo booth, right, it wasfunny it was five of us.
Five of us in the tiny littlephoto booth.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
And it was Sammy's birthday, yep, and she wanted
the photographs as memories, yep, and tell everybody what
happened with the photographs,matthew.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Well, five of us cramped into this, right Yep.
Now Sammy's head's coming infrom the side, right Yep.
So she was like the furthestaway, wasn't she the furthest
away?
And everyone's looking at wherethe frigging photo screen is.
I said no, no, you can look uphere where it says look here,
right.
So, first photo we could seeall our triple chins, right.
Second photo yeah, we couldactually see our heads.
(44:12):
Well, when I say our heads, thebirthday girl yeah.
Literally had her chin in thefrigging photo right.
Pretty much nothing else, right, except for the last photo
where she decided she was goingto stick her tongue out in the
photo.
Well, I know why she a lesbianum, because that's a tongue it
(44:34):
looks like a cock.
She stuck her tongue in there.
In the photo there's no pictureof her face there's no picture
of her face for context oranything at all.
It just looks like this giantschlong.
Um, come out in the kylie'sface.
It's just fucking.
We were dying when the photocame out.
We're sitting there pissingourselves, laughing, um, but
(44:56):
yeah.
So a fun night was ensued.
And then when we left.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Now.
This is quite bizarre, becauselast time you and I went to that
that place, we end up talkingto a guy around the same place,
we end up talking to those otherpeople.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Yeah, I forgot about that.
Yeah, it's almost like youcross the road and there's
people, always stood there, butyou always get into a
conversation with strangers yeah, so there was a couple of older
ladies, um, that were actuallybasically trying to and they
were cool, cool, they were fun,right they?
Speaker 2 (45:23):
had been dancing.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
They were in the Imperial as well, right, the
Imperial where Priscilla wasfilmed, but one had a pair of
sparkly boots, so I complimentedit on her sparkly boots, so
that sort of sparked aconversation.
And she was going.
We were trying to work out whatthe situation is here.
She said we're trying to workout whether Sammy was my sister,
um, and whether you were hiswife and this and that.
(45:46):
And we were sitting there going.
Well, you got it all wrong, Isaid because, like I said, me
and Dave are friends withbenefits.
I said none of us are in arelationship with each other.
I said Fanny is in arelationship with somebody
that's home.
She said, oh, we thought youtwo might have been married and
we're sitting there going.
Oh no, she's a girl.
(46:07):
I don't like girls, yuck Right.
And then they were going.
But you two look like brotherand sister.
And then she's sitting theregoing.
We thought that you two werelike each other's wing women and
all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
It just goes to show you what people analyze.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
People were actually sort of making this whole story
up in their heads about it andthey got nothing right.
But it was like but that wasfun as well, but it was a fun
conversation it was a funconversation and stuff like that
as well.
So that was lots and lots of fun.
We love talking to randomstrangers?
Of course we do.
Yeah, some of the young girlsthought that me and Sammy were
(46:42):
together and we said no, yuck,girls, boys blech.
And then she sat there and saidI'm a lesbian and we're going.
Are you?
Are you but part of the?
Speaker 2 (46:50):
conversation we also had.
This is where this is going tolead on to the next segment,
hopefully, is.
Basically, I questioned Sammyand asked her what the dating
apps are like for girls.
Oh yeah, so this is why we wentdown this path, and she then
explained to us or she showed us, didn't she?
The platform?
I don't know what it was called.
She then explained to us, um,or she showed us and she the the
platform.
I don't know what it was called.
(47:10):
I can't remember she said itwas.
I don't know what it was called, but it's like their equivalent
of gaydar, mass divers orsomething I don't know.
I don't know um, but she showedus and matt, and I've never
sort of looked at these Ihaven't looked at a lesbian
dating app.
We don't need to go as a lesbianwhat we sort of analyzed was
it's very similar to normaldating apps in terms of yeah,
like a swipe left, swipe right,swipe left, right, but if you go
(47:30):
on to grinder for guys, it'sjust.
It's like the whole page is fullof men, pictures of like,
either profile pictures, blankprofile pictures or pictures of
people you know, inanimateobjects, whatever, but there's
like you have to click on it toopen up the actual narrative or
to see who that person is ifthere's any correlation, yeah,
which you do have to click ongrinder to see who they are, and
(47:52):
if there's any that's what I'mtalking about.
But there is.
You can see the main picturestraight away and the main
picture with the narrative and alittle narrative and and a
swipe left, swipe right and allthat kind of stuff straight away
.
But then we ask them if they dosend.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Well, because okay because for any gay men that
listen, dick pics are justsecond nature for us, right?
Or ass pics or whatever.
Yeah, ass pics, hole pics, allkinds of pics.
Right, you'll say hey, and thenyou'll go got any pics, and you
might mean a face pic orsomething like that but all of a
sudden you're getting bombardedwith dick pics and ass pics and
(48:26):
that's not a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
Sometimes you just get some dick pics straight away
.
Sometimes you just get a dickpic's ass.
Speaker 1 (48:30):
A whole pic straight away.
You don't even get a hey.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
So I thought of thinking about it.
Can I look at?
Speaker 1 (48:33):
your face.
And then I thought does thathappen in the lesbian world?
So we asked the question and no, they don't send vag pics.
They don't send titty pics.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
They don that.
There's probably some that do.
Yeah, but it's not the mainthing, but it's not the pro.
They look at the pictures andthe narrative and, like sammy
was saying, sammy's got somebeautiful pictures on the
country, yeah, it's gorgeous,right, and she didn't choose to
have the most glorious pictureof her on there because people
said to her.
Well, you look too feminine forme she looks too, femme, and
it's like what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (49:05):
you know, I mean yeah correct.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
So it's very bizarre from our perspective as gay guys
to listen to that and we'vealways wanted to know these sort
of things.
So we will try and get sammyand um and carly carly to do a
podcast with us and we'll getthem to do their take on.
We'll do like boy girl, boygirl sort of questions and
answers to them, and I thinkthat would be a fun thing to do
(49:28):
yeah, because it's just like.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
It's just like it's a different world and we don't
get it.
So, yeah, we don't get it.
So the thing is, it is adifferent world and it's really
intriguing for me because againnow I want to know more about
the female apps and all thatkind of stuff as well.
Which, again, I'm guessing ourlisteners do as well.
(49:50):
Yeah for sure.
Because we were going to havemy sister on, but she hasn't
been on a lesbian app ever, no,like, not for a long time anyway
.
No, exactly as well.
So yeah, so I think.
Well, I don't know what you'rethinking about it, because
obviously this Well, yeah, I'mthinking that that's probably it
(50:10):
for this episode and the stuffthat we've actually prepped for
this episode what we'll do.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
We'll do another one, so we'll do a second part.
We'll continue with this one inthe next conversation.
So we'll be talking aboutrelationships apps and dating
apps and stuff like that.
We've already done somethingvery similar, but this is a
different take on different takeon this is.
This is just mainstream.
This is talking about, you know, not just the gay world.
It's talking about everybody's,like you know.
Uh, analogy bizarre facts.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
Yeah, bizarre facts.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
And we've we've got some very, very bizarre facts in
terms of like um dating andalso people that may have like
come to a demise from differentactivities that they've got
involved with yeah, yeah.
Yeah, um, and then we'll do theletter of the day.
We'll carry on with the podcast.
It'll be a two-part one, sowe'll leave for now.
Um, I hope you've enjoyed thispart of the segment, because I
have it's been quite a lot beena great chat, but um, but
(50:56):
definitely check out thewellness thing.
Speaker 1 (50:57):
I think that's a very , very like the yoga and
wellness um festival again oninstagram and all your socials
and stuff like that.
But I cannot recommend athousand past.
Highly enough um caitlinvincent.
Um, highly enough, samhenderson.
Like, literally, if you go tothe wellness and um health, yoga
and health festival, they'llprobably have all the links to
(51:18):
those guys.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
I mean you got me sort of like intrigued and
inspired, because I mean, again,I've, I've heard it's like I
was asking about reiki lastnight.
I mean I've heard it so manytimes and I was talking to fanny
in the car and I was, becauseshe has reiki and again my
ex-wife, her mother, used tohave reiki all the time and I
don't know what my perception ofreiki was.
(51:38):
I just thought it was like yougo into a room and they they
move like sand around notreiking, you know.
I mean, I thought they were.
I thought it was like aspiritual thing where they were
moving objects around and youmeditate and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
It's all energy flows and things like that.
That's what I'm saying, butagain and again I think,
especially some of the sessionsyesterday I think you would have
really benefited from it.
I will look into it definitely.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
Again I mean for me, yoga and stuff has always been
physical side to me and I don'tthink I could do the physical
thing you can back.
You'll be surprised.
Don't forget my back injury.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
The beauty, no, but the beauty of this is that and
the beauty of every singleinstructor said like here's some
basic child poses.
The child poses, this is this.
If this is too much for you,you do it at your level, right?
There was no expectation.
Like me and miami, we'refucking.
(52:30):
I'm an expert now, clearly,because I've done two sessions.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
However.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
I definitely was not an expert by any standard.
So the thing is that we werelooking at people and they were
standing up on their shouldersand they were doing all this
stuff and I'm sitting theregoing, oh my God, now these are
people that have been doing itfor years.
So they made it very clear donot compare yourself to anyone
in this room.
You do it your way.
You do it in a way that worksfor you.
(52:57):
That's going to give youbenefit, right?
So the thing is that thestretching the, the like, like I
said today, I feel fucking fit,but I feel broken.
Everything's aching.
Um, this is old age, but thisis the thing.
If I had been doing this for awhile, maybe I wouldn't feel
this way, because I know whenyou, if you don't use it, you
lose it right.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
So did they give you a uh projective, like forecast
of how long things take to youto be?
Speaker 1 (53:23):
no, and I know that's the kind of thing you want.
You want analyticals, yeah, um,but yeah, no, they don't give
you that because I thinkeveryone takes learning at their
own pace, right, okay, andthat's why I'm going to go on
like I'm going to go up to ninyoga at saint mary's, because
that's only just up the roadfrom me, right, because they
have a session.
And again, if you, go.
Speaker 2 (53:41):
Do they ever have this, like all male ones?
Speaker 1 (53:44):
yeah, they do yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, so that might
be saying that I'd be more.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (53:48):
Because I know women are very much involved with yoga
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
but again from a perspective, oh, you're going to
be surprised, but even at NinYoga, like at St Mary's, if you
go onto her website, they've gota 30 days of unlimited classes
for $89.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
Okay so that's nothing but is it like an
all-male one there's.
You want to go there and pervas well.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
You want to go there just to perv?
No, I don't, but anyway, allright, we're going to wrap up
this session yeah, all right,and we will come back to part
two or a continuation.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
We won't call it part one, part two.
We'll publish them one afterthe other.
We'll put them together when wepublish them.
Speaker 1 (54:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they'll be in order.
Part one part two, you know Imean.
So we'll see, we'll see whatthey get called.
But um, yeah, we know that aigenerates my titles now, because
if you are a listener then youknow.
Hopefully you'll get the gistof it all yeah and um yeah, but
we hope you've enjoyed today Idefinitely have.
Yep.
So, um, thank you and have ablessed day.
Namaste, namaste, bye, allright, bye.
(54:46):
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!