May 25, 2025 • 52 mins
Words have power. When a homophobe at our local club referred to us as "the fucking poofters," it sparked a deep dive into the language of homosexuality – past, present, and evolving. What terms were once slurs but have been reclaimed? What words should never be uttered? And how does context change everything?
We journey through fascinating gay terminology from across the decades, uncovering forgotten gems like "Doric Love" (1920s term for gay relationships) and "fag stag" (the rare straight man who enjoys hanging with gay men). From "fairy" originally describing promiscuous women in the 1890s to "egg" describing someone pre-transgender realisation in the 2020s, we explore how language adapts to our expanding understanding of gender and sexuality.
Dave's Letter of the Day takes us through sexual terms beginning with F, from fellatio to face-sitting, leading to hilariously candid discussions about our own preferences and experiences. Then we tackle a sensitive listener conundrum: should our underwear model friend use a penis pouch to appear larger after a designer suggested it? We address body image concerns and the problematic nature of being asked to "enhance" what's already perfectly adequate.
This episode combines history, humour, and heartfelt advice – reminding us that while words can wound, they can also empower, educate, and bring us closer together as a community. Subscribe, share, and join the conversation by emailing us at fullygrownhomospodcast@gmail.com or messaging us on Instagram at @fullygrownhomospodcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to Fully Grown Homos, a podcast about our
adventures as fully grown homosnavigating today's world full
of inquisitive friends,questions about gay life and the
unexplored activities of a lifelived as fully grown homos.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
We'll discuss the gay 101s, sex sexuality and topics
we don't even know yet, as wewant your input into what you
want to hear.
Nothing is off limits, so emailus on the Fully Grown Homos
podcast at gmailcom or messageany of our socials.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Fully Grown Homos with Dave and Matt.
(00:55):
On today's episode, we're goingto cover off a few things,
aren't we Dave?
We're going to talk about thelanguage of homosexuality and
some of the slurs and stuff likethat we're going to go through
a few things.
We're going to do our normalsegment Dave's Letter of the Day
and we're going to discusssomething that one of our
(01:17):
listeners has sent in to us.
So it's going to be quite abroad spectrum of discussions.
Yeah, we're going to run thegamut, but first of all what's
been happening.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Not a lot this week.
I know We've had quite a boringweek really compared to our
usual week, haven't we reallyyeah?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
it's been very non-eventful this week, which is
kind of good, Busy butnon-eventful.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nothing to report on.
We haven't been out anywhere,we haven't done anything
spectacular, we haven't gotanything to report on but now
I've gone back into my old role,yep, which is great.
I'm enjoying that which is likeon the bottom, but it's also up
in the air, yeah, so no, I'mnot bottom, I'm a verse.
Thank you very much we do likeit that way I do like bottoming,
(01:58):
I like topping, I like.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It depends on my mood um you like everything I do
like everything, I do likeeverything, I do like everything
.
You are a Verse.
Well, I'd be considered verseVerse.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, verse, verse top More than verse.
I'm verse top.
Yeah, that's what's written onmy Grindr profile.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, Everyone lies on the Grindr profile.
They do.
When I say verse, you know whatit means bottom.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
It's like sending a dick pic and saying that's me
and they say no, it's not.
I say, well, that's not yourface either.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
No, correct.
Well, yeah, where is your face?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, got a few of those last night.
Anyway, we digress.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's normal, and we haven't even got into it.
You're not even two minutes in,so not a lot has been happening
.
We went out on Mother's Day,didn't we?
Yeah, we did.
It was in a club.
That was nice, even though wedidn't have our mothers there,
because yours is no longer withus, unfortunately.
Mine's in the grave, and mineis in the UK.
And I'll leave that one thereat the moment.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
But we celebrated all women.
Yeah, we did All women allmothers out there, I celebrate
you and it's a big job.
I don't doubt it.
I know I was an angel of achild to raise.
Obviously, unlike my siblings,they were very hard work.
That's why I'm the favouritechild.
I'm not the favourite child atall.
(03:18):
Never was, never will be.
I was, yes, but there is somephenomenal mums out there that
we've got in our circle, so wecelebrate them and happy
Mother's Day to them.
But straight into this week's,oh, I had a tooth pulled out.
Oh, you did that's exciting.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, it was exciting for the dentist because he got
a bigger bank balance for theday, didn't he?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
He took your money.
It wasn't as bad as I actuallyexpected to be.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Oh look, any surgical extractions is not good.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, but I was expecting a thousand plus and it
was only like and when I sayonly six hundred dollars, it's
not like I have six hundreddollars just sitting there, but
it wasn't the thousands ofdollars that I was expecting and
that's the sad thing aboutgoing to dentists a lot of
people put off just because ofthe price.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
If the price was cheaper then people would be
more inclined to go I don't like.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I've had so many horror stories stories around
dentistry, um, even from some ofmy family members where they
went there and the dentist said,oh, you need to get this done,
you need to get that done, youneed to get that done and
they're looking at like thousand, tens of thousands of, yeah,
remortgaging the house.
Yeah, yeah, yeah and thisdentist didn't do that.
He basically said here's youroptions.
(04:29):
If I was you, I'd be going forthe extraction, knowing the fact
that you haven't been to adentist in 10 plus years.
Clearly your teeth aren't yourtop priority.
However, like you know, they'renot too bad.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So I'm just looking at one of Matt's plants.
He's got some brown bits on hismonsterias, which is not good.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
No, that's normal.
That's normal With the reallywhite leaves.
They go brown earlier.
I usually just take scissors tothem so you don't see them.
Oh, I've never seen them brownbefore.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's normal.
That's absolutely positivelynormal.
Okay, normal.
Okay, he's not neglecting his.
He's talking about my Thaiconstellation monsteria your cog
, no, thai constellationmonsteria.
And they are very pretty, um,but when you get an all white
(05:11):
leaf, it's all like, oh god, itlooks so pretty initially, but I
know this is going to happen toit because and I do give it um
silica to try and prolong it.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It's just like a white man sitting in the sun and
he goes red, gets brown.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, yeah it's got a suntan but it's crispy anyway,
again digressing not even fiveminutes in, and we've digressed
him multiple times already.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
There you go talking of being out of the Panthers.
This is where our next topic ofconversation is going to come
into.
So at Panthers, on Mother's Day, we run into our friends who we
love very dearly Ryan and Tomfrom the club.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
And they had a chat with Dave.
Yep, dave told them, they toldDave.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So basically I was just asking them how their week
was and they were explaining tome how it was and what they did
for Mother's Day, et cetera, etcetera, and then Ryan said to me
he goes's.
Actually I mentioned about oneof the, the members of the of of
a member of of the club club,that's it.
Yeah, sorry, because staffmembers not just remember the
(06:14):
club, that goes their frequencyevery week.
We don't tend to get on withhim.
I don't get on with him.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I don't really like him, like to everyone, and matt
is polite and because of hispoliteness this guy has decided
that we're best buddies and hesays hi to me every week and
asks me how am I going to wintoday?
Am I going to do?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
this and whether they're going to leave anything
for him and everything else.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, and to which, when he says to me, you're going
to leave anything for us, Iusually turn around and go fuck,
no, absolutely not.
I'm going to win everything andI roll my he doing.
And his girlfriend's a moronright.
She walks around.
She's on disability, she walksaround with a stick in her hand
when it suits her, when it suitsher, except for when she's
winning, and she suddenlyforgets that she needs a said
stick.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And she comes running up the stairs on the pokies, or
if she's walking from notwell-liked in the club anyway.
And they're not nice people,and that's between the staff
members and the general publicas well.
So it's not just us thatdoesn't like them, but anyway
the topic of conversation was Iwas just talking to Ryan about
his week and then he said oh,this particular guy won't name
(07:17):
names because there's no point,because he's a fucktist, he's
not even worth having a name.
Um, but basically he said, oh,that guy your friends.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, he said I know your friends and I, like ryan,
said who right?
And he went.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
The fucking poofters right and ryan went really
really you got a problem withthat to which he sort of said,
well, um, and then ryan thenturned around and said, well,
I'm one, but I'm not a pufter,I'm a gay man, and have you got
a problem with it, you know?
So that's where theconversation came, because, I
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mean, I was a little bit shocked, because I mean, this day and
age, there's no need to discussthat sort of terminology with
people.
Anyway.
Now he knows our names, so hecould have referred to us as
Matt and Dave, as most people inthe club all know us.
They either call us matt anddave or the boys, so that's how
we're referred to all the time.
We've never had a single issuewith anybody in the club and
they've never had an issue withus either.
(08:12):
But for some reason, this guywho again, like I said, where I
gave him many benefits of doubtof even calling my name, because
to me he's like a amoeba, umsingle cell, that's all he is.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
So yeah, for me personally, I don't give a
flying fuck what someone callsme, right, because someone's
opinion of me is not my problem,right?
Somebody's?
Um?
If they want to call mewhatever they want, go for it.
However, it's time to geteducated, right?
(08:42):
We do it quite frequently,right?
I educate Dave on the regularabout what's okay to say now, in
2025, and what's not okay.
I also learn quite frequentlywhat's okay to say and what's
not okay to say.
I often stuff up, but it's notwith malice or with intent,
(09:03):
right?
So this moron was saying it ina way that was meant as a slur.
It was meant as a derogatoryterm.
Right Now, I've got friendsthat I've got one of my good
friends' husband will happilycall each other.
Him and his mates will calleach other fag, right?
I don't get offended becausethey're him and his mates, right
(09:25):
?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
but it's not derogatory towards it.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
He's not no no, he's not meaning it as a derogatory
term, right, but that's justpart of their language, right,
which is not actually offensive,because the way it's said when
he says it is not offensive,right, and that's um mark
anthony claire's okay and himand all his mates and, and he's
called me names, but again, hedoesn't say it with any hate or
(09:49):
with any vitriol or anythinglike that, and I do not take
offense to it, right, I do notand will not.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
But he's also said it's your face rather than
behind your face, as well,correct, correct.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And that's even worse when people are talking behind
your back if I thought for onesecond it was meant to be
something that was a negativestatement, I would stand up for
myself.
Um, you know that?
Um, and I am waiting for thismoron at the club to actually
have just just some kind ofballs to say hi to me again well
, my army he's been annoying, he, he's, he, um.
(10:23):
hasn't even looked my directionsince then.
So he must have realized fromRyan that that's not okay and he
must know, or must have known,that Ryan's come and said
something back.
Well, we were at the club lastnight.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, we were.
We had Miami with us and herhusband, Now Miami's a
firecracker, she is All right.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So she is a fucking short fuse.
All right, so she is all right.
So she is a short fuse, allright.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
So she has been charged for assault in previous
years, but she took offense towhat we were saying.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
She didn't like it she's very protective of her
friends, especially me.
I'm her, her person and she's,and she's one of mine and she's
very protective.
Well, she got up to go and gether son and this fuckwit walked
past and he's going oh, is ityou?
I mean because the rafflenumber had just gone out.
He's going no mate, might beone of the fucking poofters,
(11:15):
right?
Well, he legged it.
He didn't look backwards.
There's no way he couldn't haveheard it.
Yeah, but yeah.
But let's move on from that.
Yeah, because that's brought usto today's topic.
Right, and that is what isacceptable, language and what is
just some.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Just classified as normal these days, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And we've gone to, I guess, some Googling yeah,
because that's our go-to rightand we've actually looked at
different words from differenttimes and some of their
different origins and thingslike that, and we've actually
learnt a little bit today.
Well, there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I'm still learning there's so many words here, so
so if we go to Fag, Hag rightnow, which is what Miami is, and
that's not an offensive word toher and so is Cleo, and Cleo
owns that word, right, she ownsit.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
She's been a fag hag for years and she knows that,
right.
So a fag hag is typically awoman, a heterosexual woman, who
basically hangs out with gayguys more than she does other
straight people generally, andstuff like that.
Um now, cleo and myself used togo to um Ark, which was a
nightclub in Sydney back in theday, and I don't know whether
(12:34):
she was hanging around with gaymen because it was cool and
because we were like awesome, orbecause every freaking time we
went to Ark she would pick up.
Ark was a gay bar, right, shewould pick up a straight man
there every single time withoutfail, right, every single time.
Right, it was freakingoutrageous.
But fag hag was actuallyderived or invented I don't know
(12:58):
what the word is discovered inthe 1960s, right.
So that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But, dave, there's a word that we didn't know existed
and it is very similar to faghag, but it is a fag stag.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
A fag stag, which is a heterosexual man who enjoys
the company of gay men and thenit's got in brackets.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
rare, because a lot of straight men don't normally
hang around gay men.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, like the same with women or get enjoyment out
of it by association.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
yeah, because normally they turn to become gay
themselves.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You know I mean but that was actually from the 1990s
.
That came into play.
Yep, um, and again we're 2025.
I can't believe I'd never heardof that.
Because exactly like and and itis quite rare, because I've got
a lot of straight mates right,but they don't really hang
around.
Even when I was in the scene,it wasn't the straight boys that
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hung around the gay scene somuch, it was just if they were
there with their girlfriends andstuff like that.
And I've got a lot of guys thathave definitely hung out at gay
bars and that with me, but onlybecause they had the better
music, the better dance floors,the better DJs or better drinks
the better music, the betterdance floors, the better DJs.
(14:09):
All the better drinks.
The better drugs, the bettereverything.
But they weren't there to hangout with the gay boys, they were
there for the whole vibe of itall.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
As such, so yeah, that one actually was quite.
I've got one here, matt.
It's called Doric Love.
Have you ever heard of thatbefore?
I've not heard of this, neitherhave I, and basically it's a
term used from the 1920s as anexpression for gay sex or
romance relating to classicalgreek terms, sometimes with
(14:36):
overtones of pre sorry, ped,drastic, pedrash katia can't say
the word now pederast,pederastity yeah, yeah, which
you looked up that word and whatdoes that mean?
And it basically Pedarascity, Ican't say the word now
Pedaracity.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, yeah, pedaracity, you looked up that
word and what does that mean?
And it basically says that it'smen in a relationship with
older, men in a relationshipwith a young boy, or sexual
relations, sexual relations witha young boy.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Which now turns into more like Pedophilia Pedophilia
Almost Right, so yeah, likepedophilia pedophilia almost
right, so yeah, so again, andthat was, that was from.
Let me just go back into 1920s,1920s.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
There you go.
Okay, you invented that.
Oh, thank you.
Yes, um, you've got curry queen, and um, what do you think that
would be dave?
I don't know, I haven't lookedthat far ah, that's a gay man
who was attracted to indian.
Oh, so you're a curry queenthen?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You were a curry queen for a long time.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
That was an offensive racial overtones that had, and
that was in the 1990s, again inthe USA that came about.
So I do know of the term ricequeen, which is again that's
similar to the curry queen andthat's somebody that's actually
attracted to young Asian men assuch.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
So I know about that one I got another one called an
egg egg.
What's an egg?
An egg is basically a slangterm originating online, so it's
from the 21st century, somodern times.
For a person who has not yetrealized they are transgender,
has not yet come out or is in anearly stages of transitioning,
usually used fondly by transpeople to recognize when some,
(16:10):
when aspects of someone'spersonality or behavior remind
them of gender related aspectsof themselves before they
realize they were trans, isnecessary to refer to this in
description, use, speculationabout trans or discussion about
pre-early transition experiences.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
So an egg just like an embryo hasn't hatched, I
suppose, yeah, and I guess it isthe 21st century that one was
discovered.
So, um, and I think there is, Iguess, as we open up our gender
barriers, a lot more, um, thatis very, very common for people
to actually sort of, and andagain it's it's like us, I guess
(16:48):
we spot young gay boys not boys, but young gay men.
We go, oh, they're going to begay when they get older.
Um, and sort of, you can youcan sort of pick certain things
if you're part of that community.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
What's your feelings on the word being called a fairy
?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
oh, look again, I don't care, I know, but I'm not,
I'm so I guess the thedefinition of it is like very
effeminate and all that kind ofstuff and that does not fit with
me, unless of course I've had acouple of picardy breezes that
I can be fairy like um, but it'snot I.
I don't take offense toanything right like literally,
(17:24):
unless it's said with vitriol.
Then I will be offended, rightand fuck.
If I get offended by somethingyou better watch out, because
you'll know you've offended me.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Well, it was originally a slang word used for
the meaning of promiscuouswomen oh, okay there you go, so
I'm just putting you right on afew things here.
Yeah, basically it's beenaround since 1890s, 1890s.
Wow, so they slid it around, so,yeah, so promiscuous women were
fairies back in the day, okay,and then it's been, then
(17:55):
reclaimed by the gay men in the1960s, only used as an
individual self-described inthis way.
So if you want to be called afairy, you can be called a fairy
.
We know people that that thencall themselves fairies in the
game and it's just a term thatthey like being called.
It just makes them like acommunity base or like um group,
doesn't you know?
(18:16):
There you go again.
You learn from from factualinformation.
Sometimes googling is prettygood, sometimes it's not what
about this one?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
d Dave?
Go on then.
Have you ever been this oneCalled this one Rough trade?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
A rough trade.
I'd like to be called a roughtrade.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Well, rough trade is slang for a man who identifies
as straight but sometimes hassex with queer men, usually as a
top All right, okay, queer, men.
Yeah, with queer men.
So that was derived in the1960s, oh wow.
So that was a long time ago.
So I've always said I likerough trade, but I didn't
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realise what I was actuallysaying.
So I'm going to come out ofthis session a whole lot more
educated.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, and you're going to rename yourself.
A lot more different things,aren't?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
you a whole heap of things.
You're going to change yourbirth certificate now.
That just jumped down.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I don't know why that disappeared.
Do you reckon sam smith willappear on this soon?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
stop it I can't go into oyster territory again.
He's had too much hair play sothere's a word, dave back it.
If you can remember, all theway back to our very first
podcast, what was the word thatI actually schooled you on back
then?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
You schooled me on yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I told you that's not an okay word to say anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Oh Well, I'm allowed to say it now You're allowed to
say it for the context of this.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Okay, the word is tranny, that's correct.
Yeah, and here it says highlyoffensive slur for a trans
person.
Originally used to conflatetranssexual people,
transvestites and drag queens,mainly used about trans feminine
people, but offensive to alltrans people.
Tranny is extremely offensiveand avoid speaking it aloud.
(19:58):
And that was the 1970s.
It was come about which, again,I know this and Dave now knows
this because he's actually sortof been taught by myself.
Yeah, but it's not an okay word.
The words that are great to useis their name.
Ask the person what their nameis or what their preference is
(20:19):
to be called.
And because I have heard othertrans folk call each other
tranny and again, that's like mecalling Dave a fully grown homo
.
That's what we are we're homos,but it's actually.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
It's offensive to them, isn't it?
That's an offensive word aswell.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I wonder if that is actually on the list.
Homo, it is here.
It says shortened form ofhomosexual, often derogatory,
always used in the full term indescription, and that was the
1920s.
All right, so, and obviously wedon't take offense to the word
homo, because otherwise we wouldnever have put it in our title.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, exactly Of the show the fully grown homos.
But we own that anyway in termsof like, we own the word
homosexuality in terms of for us, we're happy with that, yep,
homos and stuff like that,because we are homosexuals and
that's a word that's.
It describes the gender ofpeople we are yep, you know, or
the group of people we are notgender yeah our gender is male.
Yes, exactly.
(21:19):
Have you ever heard of a, a gaycat?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
no, what's a gay cat?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
a gay cat is a slang used primarily in unhoused sorry
in in unhold, sorry.
I'll start again.
Slang used primarily inunhoused or criminal communities
from the first half of the 20thcentury in the us generally
donatinga younger homosexualcompanion oh, okay, there you go
.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Okay, and um, there was one in here I've seen before
and I can't find it now, but itwas something about prison and
all that kind of stuff and youlike prison.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
You love prison, sex.
You love everything aboutprison, don't you?
I like the idea of going.
What about you know, gold?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
oh, here it was here it was um, it was a gump, a
slang used by incarcerated menin the us to denote a person in
a passive role in gay sex, andthat was in the 1980s.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
So so, what going on yeah so yeah, gump.
Well, I got one very similar.
It's like gonsel or gunsel orgun shell or gunsel, and it's
slang used by incarcerated andunhoused communities in the us
to donate young gay men or boy.
Okay, so again, this is veryinteresting as we're reading
through.
Oh yeah, it's above your one,you just come.
(22:35):
Yeah, um, I've got one herewhich I've written down, so I'm
going to go to on my listbecause I want to make sure I've
got it right.
Um, yeah, do you know what aprussian is?
A prussian p-r-u-s-h-o-n?
I think I've got one of those.
That works for me.
Well, it's a slang, slang wordused by unhoused communities,
again in the us, to donate ayoung gay man who travels with
(22:57):
an older companion.
Okay so a cushion is like acushion, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, that's actually from the 1890s to the 1980s
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I've never heard of it.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, again, there's some, but, to be fair, never
heard of.
There are a lot of words thatyou say that I've never heard of
and I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
English.
You're Australian by birth.
That heard of, and I don't.
I'm english.
You're australian by birth.
That's probably why it's likeyou run.
I speak australian, um, and youspeak english.
Is that australian oraustralian?
Australian, australian,australia, australia.
Welcome to australia, buddy.
Yo, um yeah, so there's lots ofinteresting words on here, um
(23:36):
any other highlights that youneed to call out before we jump
there's?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
one, like I said to you earlier, the word stud.
Now, if I said to you stud, Imean my interpretation I'd say
thanks, yeah, I know I am.
Yeah, well, we refer to, likeyou say oh, look at that stud
over there, and it's not like abit of wood which, like trainees
would use like a stud wall,it's like referring to a hot
looking guy technically, isn'tit?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
yeah, well a stud is usually the the thoroughbred
it's no, it's usually themasculine version of the slut.
So it's like if a girl's fuckeda lot of people, right, it's
usually usually in my brainbefore reading anything.
It would be like the slut wouldbe the girl that was
promiscuous and fucked everyoneand the guy that, and it would
have like the slut would be thegirl that was promiscuous and
fucked everyone and the guy that, and it would have like the
(24:23):
slut would have the negativeconnotation and the stud would
be the male version that'sfucked everyone, but that's a
positive connotation, whichagain, I think is wrong.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
But that's not what stud means you told me no, so
you're talking the 20th century.
So you're talking only sort oflike just before the 20th
century.
Yeah, so 2000, so up until 1999he was described.
So, basically, community termused for african-american or
latinx masculine queer women,also known as ag.
(24:52):
Ag only use if someoneself-describes in this way and
avoid using for white people, asthis is a term specifically
developed by and forafrican-american and latinx
communities only.
Yeah, there you go, which is so.
Would that be offensive, then,if you, a lesbian, was to call a
white woman a stud, I supposeit would be, wouldn't it?
(25:13):
because it's not really meantfor them, is it?
Yeah, so it's more likeAfrican-Americans and Latinx
women.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
So I also went.
So I also before we end thispart of this session, right,
because we've still got lotsmore to do today.
Yeah, but I went to UrbanDictionary to look up the word
pufta, because I love UrbanDictionary, it's got some great
examples and stuff like that,and it actually tells me that
there's a.
It's a slang word originatingfrom australia in the 1960s,
(25:46):
meaning homosexual word can bederogatory depending on the
context and user's intent, right?
He is so effeminate, mate, whata pofter, right?
But then it's got it because,because um urban dictionary
always gives you a little bit ofa um, a little bit of um a
sentence, to put it in, so a bitof context.
(26:08):
And it says here, um.
And it says andrew, runningaround in hot pink, arseless
chaps and muscle shirt and alittle shih tzu with him, me, oh
jesus, andrew, you're such abloody poof um, okay, well,
that's not a derogatory word, no, no, but this is like that's
(26:28):
just again.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
It's like society, I mean, it's like there's.
I mean poof is not really, inmy opinion, an offensive,
offensive word, but when it'sused in the derogatory sense it
was which was no need for.
Then it becomes derogatory andoffensive to me then, yeah,
because there was no need forthat comment to even even being
entertained.
Yeah, I mean, he knew our names.
(26:50):
He didn't have to refer to usanybody, you know that way.
So that that just summed up hisnegativity to being a?
Um, what do you call it?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
a homophobe, a homophobe, a homophobe, a moron.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Just at the very end of this little segment here,
matt, it's got a list of slursthat generally refer to gay and
feminine men.
All of these terms areoffensive and should never be
used or replicated unlessnecessary as part of a title or
other identifier, in which caseenclosed in question marks only.
And these words are arsebanditse, fucker, booty bandit,
(27:24):
brownie you never heard ofbrownie before um bum bandit,
bum boy, um butt pirate, benderbent.
The words go on and on, yeah,yeah.
So you know these sort of wordsare ones that really are quite
offensive to the gay community.
I suppose when you get like afudge pack of filthy girly boy,
mincer, pillow biter, I don'tmind, pillow biter, pillow
(27:46):
biter's all right.
Shirtlifter, you know thesesort of things are turbo.
These are words that we'veactually heard in the community
and they can be offensive.
I get it.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
They can be Correct, they can be.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And it you know.
I mean they can be correct,they can be, and again, I think
it's all relevant to where thecontext, what's the context and
the intent that it's said with.
So if you've got any specialwords that you want to tell us
about and we'll investigate abit more then let us know on how
they're going to do that matt,yeah, they're going to let us
know on any of our socials,mainly instagram, because I
really don't check facebookbecause it's really you don't
even listen to the podcast, halfthe time I'm joking he always
(28:17):
listens to the podcast.
Yes, he has to, because he hasto okay, you do um.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
So I would say you can contact us on our socials at
fullygrownhomospodcast, or youcan email us at
fullygrownhomospodcast atgmailcom.
Yep, but right now it's timefor for Dave's Letter of the Day
.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
So you're going to have to get into my bag of balls
again, Matt.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Okay, so I'm going to reach in to Dave's balls.
You've got to move over so youcan grab the balls and I'm going
to yep, oh, okay, you haven'tshaved in a while.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Dave, that's not my.
Yeah, that's not the one youwant.
Pick another one.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
All right, want oh pick another one.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Okay, all right, all right, reach it in grabbing,
grabbing.
Oh, what's you doing?
No, oh yeah, fuck, you've justcome on my hand um, okay, that's
not come, just me that's pissedsorry reached in.
I've got your ball here.
It is dave.
What letter have?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I got, you got the letter, so you got letter f matt
.
So I'm just gonna have to gothrough my diary all my letters.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Sorry, we're there okay, so day's letter of the day
today is the letter.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Find where f p f here he goes.
I think we've had that before,but I've got a different list
here as well well, there you go,there you go okay, so different
list of f balls, f bombs, fbombs.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
So first word is fellatio, fellatio love it um
it's basically oral um givenblowjobs not basically it is, it
is it is oral.
It's um the technical term forfor blowjobs, and I love them.
They're my favorite.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
No, they're not my favorite oh, you can't do at the
moment, because you can toothy.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I can't because I've got a tooth, but I can certainly
get one if you want to give one.
I had a wank this morning, soit's okay.
What was that last night?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
You can't freaking remember, because you're so busy
.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I had one last night actually.
But fellatio, I love it.
I like it with a little bit ofteeth, sometimes not too much
Teeth, yeah, not scraping, butjust the feel of it a little bit
.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, there's some really bad people out there.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I love it when people put my balls in their mouth.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
And suck them hard, oh yeah.
Really hard.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I like it when they're squeezed.
Do you like them being smacked,not smacked?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Some people like them being smacked, squeezed.
I don't know.
I'd like them squeezeddefinitely.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Sucked is good, smacked or whatever, um, but I
yeah, I'm not good on pain.
I like the sound of ballsslapping.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Oh yeah, that's good.
Yeah, that's really good.
Or?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
even your ass cheeks being slapped, yeah, yeah,
lightly lightly.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I don't like being slapped or smacked or anything
like that no, no, yeah, davidI'm precious doesn't like pain
um no, um, all right, all right,I think we've covered off.
Yeah, moving on to that,otherwise I'll get hard.
We'll go on to food play food,play food play.
We were talking about this theother week, weren't we about
dressing someone up and eatingoff them?
(31:15):
Yeah, we were.
We were talking about that.
That was one type of food.
That was last weekend we did go.
I can't remember half thefucking time, but we missed it
because it wasn't that exciting.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
The company was great , but anyway, we were on food
play.
We were going to put thebirthday boy down, which was
Justin Brittany's husband, andeat off him like a sushi plate,
weren't we?
No sushi, just pure cream, andthen make some more, but food,
food play.
So in the past I have actuallyand then make some more Yep, but
(31:49):
food food play.
So in the past I have actuallygone the whole chocolate sauce
and stuff like that on nipples.
Don't do chocolate sauce whenyou're rooming someone.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
That could get messy.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And if somebody actually has an accident it
could taste bad.
But I've done the chocolatesauce on nipples and stuff like
that before cream cream.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I've never done honey because I'm always quite hairy
about things like strawberriesand stuff like that strawberries
yeah, I've never bananas.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I've seen somebody put skittles under their
foreskin.
Yes, we've seen that, yeah,yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
And what do they say?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
let's shoot the rainbow yeah, yeah, what shoot
the rainbow?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Taste the rainbow, taste therainbow, yeah, yeah what shoot
the rainbow?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
yeah, yeah, yeah, taste the rainbow taste the
rainbow um food play.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
What else have I used ?
Well, I haven't used any thingslike carrots, but I know
someone that has yeah, thatwasn't really food play, so it
was an object that was usedwhich is food, play that's what
food play is.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
No, I associate food play with more as fun fun stuff.
You're eating, though it wasfun.
Yeah, what I'm saying is it'snot I don't know.
Yeah, it's difficult.
In my mind, food play should besort of like whipped cream yeah
, strawberries, custard, honey,ice cream melted on your skin.
I've got to make ice cream, butyou're an ice cream maker now,
(33:04):
so just let you know we aredon't build in as we do always
all's go next, but food play,would you?
Would have you done themilkshake man?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
oh, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah gojo, yeah gojo, our
representative from eurovision,who unfortunately didn't make it
to the finals.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I don't know why, but he was phenomenal, it's a bit
like benson boone in his outfitwise, he was fucking packing
money was, and he loved it aswell, and I think the audience
loved it.
Yeah, where there was a yum-yum, weren't they?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yum-yum, yum-yum.
Yeah, it was awesome.
Talking of yum-yum, talking ofthings have you ever used things
like spaghetti and stuff inyour body?
No, I haven't like spaghetti.
You know this.
I'm not a fan of spaghettibolognese.
No.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
No, but Tin spaghetti , I don't mind, no, I just mean
pasta, then Pasta on On you Forfood play, For food play.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, no, no that would get too messy, Really no
no, isn't messier, the better.
Well, no, because I've got toclean up.
I'm a single man.
I'm going to clean up half formyself, yeah yeah, what's the
next word, dave?
Speaker 2 (34:10):
okay, next one is face sitting face sitting.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Oh well, we know what happened the last time I sat in
someone's face.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
You shut yourself I'm joking, he stuck his tongue
right in my hole.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, and I fucking came everywhere and I hadn't
done that before.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
That was fucking amazing, but I do like to get my
hole eaten, yeah, but you don'teven have to have your hole.
It could be your balls, itcould be your cock in his mouth,
just basically squatting oversomeone's face and letting them
use their tongue.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, as long as I know, I'm completely douched and
cleaned and everything's safeand there's no chance of
anything else coming out.
Because, if there's no chanceof anything else coming out,
because if there's any chanceand somebody goes to go down
there again, no, no, no, no,thanks, yep, yep, um, so yeah,
but I, but I do love it's goodwith threesomes as well, because
you can have one sitting on theother person's cock, riding
them, yeah, facing you as youface them.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Sitting on his face yeah, and that's interesting.
That's gonna be good as well.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I can help, yeah so, face, it's a good one to have
you to have a go, yep.
Then you're looking at frot orfrotting, frotting, oh my God.
I haven't heard of this foryears.
I know right.
Oh, wow, that's lovely.
I love watching the videos on X, yeah, and basically what
frotting is is accidentallyrubbing up against someone.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
It's the art of rubbing against each other's
cocks, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, but I've also seen it done on trains, in
public places and stuff likethat, and you'll see like one
guy with his hand on the barholding the bar and another guy
will be like rubbing his cock onthe bar and they're both
consenting right.
Well, the bar, Well, and youcan see one.
They'll be looking at eachother and it's obviously staged.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
When you say a bar, what do you mean?
What sort of bar?
The bar you're holding on thetrain Right, not a bar you get
drinks from no.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Okay, like the pole.
Okay, sorry, fucking, I forgothe speaks English.
Sorry, listeners, come on.
So yeah, and you'll seesomebody like rubbing their hand
against the other guy's crotchand it's just like, oh, that's
kind of hot, I want to do that.
So yeah, frotting is good.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, it's actually a French word which means frotter
, which also means rubbing or torub.
Yeah, so frotter is the Frenchword for frottingting.
I hadn't heard of it for years.
There you go, so now you've gotyour little bit of memories
back.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, yeah a little fun time you smile on your face
onto x again, yep, yep, um, yougot uh, foreplay, foreplay
what's foreplay?
Who cares?
Um, get straight in there now.
I do like foreplay becauseforeplay is kissing and it's
touching and it's caressing andit's getting those juices
flowing, whether they be pre-cumor just your other kind of
(36:54):
juices, your energy juices areflowing Pretty much yeah, yeah,
I do like foreplay and it can beindividual or together or
multiple.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, so it's an important aspect, I of any
sexual act I suppose yeah, 100%okay, um you got.
What about facial facial?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
haha, we know someone that got a facial last weekend.
Um, don't we miami?
Yeah, um, so miami sent us somephotos in our um in our group
chat that we have called hose upthe hose chat, right, and um,
she basically had given herhusband all this self-care stuff
and he conceded to do it allbecause he got to basically give
(37:35):
her a facial.
Um, and when I said to her howto go and she said well, he's
not stupid, he's known me foryears he made sure he got his
first before I had to deliver onhis.
So that's why he was so relaxedin the photos, because he'd
already fucking dumped a load.
He was just ready to let her dowhatever at that stage.
So, yeah, but yeah, look, I'vegiven a facial to somebody.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
And what's your best terminology of facial?
Is it in the mouth, on the face?
Speaker 1 (38:00):
All over the face On the chin.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Some people like it on their chin, some some people
like it on their chin.
Some people like it, somepeople have I've seen a lot of
videos where they just fuckingsquirt.
It goes in their eye, goesevery fucking way yeah, I'm not
a fan of that you can't help itif you're fucking a big squirter
.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah if you're a big squirt, I'm not a massive squirt
, I can come pretty hard.
You're talking younger guys,you know I mean but that guy
that came over to your house,that straight guy, yep, um
straight bisexual bisexual guy.
I'm sorry um and he wanted meto basically come all over his
face um and so I did.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
And then he went into the mirror and just stood there
looking at himself like this islike the fucking best thing
ever.
It was just like, yeah, this ishot, this is very hot and he'd
get turned on by, wouldn't he he?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
wanted to fucking do it again, and again, and again,
but we Dave's moved now so hecan't find him.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
So yeah, the last one is foot job.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Okay, yeah, no, I don't mind foot jobs.
I've rubbed my foot onsomebody's cock to get them hard
and all that kind of stuff, butI can't say that I've given
anyone a foot job.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I don't have to be sucking your toes no, obviously
no.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
We all know that that's a no for me, it's a yes
for me I know it's a yes fromyou, um, but a foot job for me
would be, I don't know, is that?
Speaker 2 (39:19):
well, I think it's quite hot, though, when some if
you're laying on one end andlike someone is sitting there
reading a book or something, canyou know you can see them see
the temptation is to reach outwith your foot and then start
rubbing their crotch.
Yeah, that's hot, that's hot,that's hot.
And then you end up fucking,just getting your foot together
and just fucking wanking themoff.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Well, you've seen my toe right, it's ugly.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I'm not talking about your toe.
I'm talking about your foot.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah foot.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, I know, but my feet are also ugly um, but yeah
feet are ugly in general.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
I'm I'm.
I'm not a fan.
You're not a foot fetish.
I'm not, I don't have a footfetish.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
There's definitely fair to say, well, I don't have
a foot fetish but I enjoy theactual out of like maybe you do,
I don't know, it's not saying Igravitate to as like I've got
to do, I've got to go do.
It's just like if it happens ithappens and I get it turned on
and enjoy doing it.
You know what I mean?
I don't like socks, don't likeshoes, don't like all that sort
of thing.
They're fetishes.
(40:14):
I don't like them.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I do like to see a pair of boots that come all over
my mouth.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
No, no, work boots.
That's pretty much my list of,anyway, for the F word today.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
For Dave's letter of the day.
So you can put your balls backin your sack now, dave, because
we're done for this week, forthat one, all right, so we have.
It's not really a question, butit's a bit of a listener
conundrum.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
This is someone that we've had contact with in the
past.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
We've had Sultan Royale contact reach out to us a
number of times.
Now he's a sexy, a fucking sexyunderwear model Very hot
looking guy.
He's a hot underwear model.
We need to meet up with him,and I can't remember where he's
from.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Argentina.
I think he's South America.
He's South American.
I think it's Argentina I think.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
But he's hot, regardless of where he's from,
he's actually smoking hot, right.
He is a sexy, sexy, sexy man,all right.
So he's reached out to us andhe said hey, dave and Matt, I
hope all's well, loving thepodcast, love to listen to you
guys on my runs and at timesI'll listen to have a wink,
which we love.
We do the same, don't worrythey always heard you work.
(41:32):
Chanel, stop it.
I don't know what my girls aregoing crazy for.
Sultan?
Yeah, they like him.
Good girl, all right.
So they ready to quiet?
Shush, come here.
Good girl, shirley, all right.
So are they ready to quiet?
No, sit.
(41:53):
Anyway, he's written here andhopefully I'll be able to get
through it without any morenoise and ruckus, shh, oi, shh.
Anyway, last year he wrote tous about his willy worries.
Now he wrote to us last yearand told us that he had
(42:14):
basically been told that he wassmall.
Now he sent us some pics and wedebated this, we reviewed and
we did do a podcast about penissize.
He inspired that podcast for usand he is well above average, I
would say yeah, yeah, he'sdefinitely above average.
Yep, um, especially hard now,none of us.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I'm, I'm sorry, bear with me, you carry on yep, you
carry on, take him out there.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
But yeah, um and um, he he wrote to us about his
willy worries.
Now, now, his willy worrieswere that he was small.
Now, he's not small.
He's got a decent-sized dick onhim.
Right, he's not a monster cock,but no one is, and, trust me,
I've had enough dick to fucking.
Know that.
Right, I've had lots and lotsand lots, especially over the
(43:01):
last few years, of being single.
Right, myself I'm a littleabove average.
Yeah, dave, you're average,average right, um, but again, um
, we've seen pictures of hisdick and it's not small.
No, right, it's, it's average.
And I think the people that arecomparing it are looking at
(43:24):
things like porn stars, which weall know they get hired because
they've got monsters right, andthe percentage of people out
there with a huge, huge big dickis only probably about 25 of
the population anyway.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
And that's world population.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yeah, correct, correct I mean, so that's only
if you're from I think it'sghana and places like that, but
yeah, but anyway.
So he wrote here basicallysaying he's started modelling
again this week Now he's lookingamazing.
He sent us a couple of videosand he's looking fantastic as
well.
His fucking ass is beautiful.
Yep God, I'd love to jump up onthat as well.
(44:00):
Come to Australia, have some funwith us.
Anyway, this time around thedesigner asked him to wear a
penis pouch right for the smallthongs.
And there was really no need,he said basically.
And then the designer alsoasked him to push his dick
downwards to give it a bit moreLength, Like a bit more oomph to
(44:23):
it, and stuff like that.
Now he said that he's thinkingof rebranding himself as a small
cock model.
Well, you can't do that,because your dick's not small,
Exactly, and more so youshouldn't need to anyway.
Yeah, Now your dick's not small,so you don't need to rebrand
yourself.
You've got a very nice cock anda very, very nice ass and a
(44:48):
very nice face.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
And a very nice face and you're a nice, handsome, and
you're a nice guy.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
from the communications that we've had
with you, you're a nice guy aswell.
So my conundrum here is aroundthe would you be inclined?
Why are you breathing so heavy?
Are?
Speaker 2 (45:08):
you all right heavy.
I'm chasing the fucking dogs,that's why.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Okay, all right, sorry I just thought fucking
hell.
Um, we're doing meditation.
I felt like I was back at yoga,um, so I would be hesitant to
put a pouch in for a couple ofreasons.
Right, number one you don'tneed to.
You don't need to, all right,but that's on you, that's up to
you.
Is my first point, right as tohow you want to be portrayed on
(45:31):
camera, if you want to give thevision that you're larger than
you are, um, you miss brandingyourself.
By all means go ahead and do itright, um, but it's not
necessary at all.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Um see, my take on it is that you're being um, what's
your?
The people that are asking youto do these things are body
shaming you.
In that regard, I think thatthey shouldn't be doing that.
They don't need to.
They like you.
They've chosen you to be amodel for a reason, and you've
got the body, you've got thelook and everything else, so why
they need to push you to put apouch down there when it's not
(46:07):
necessary?
Well that and that's on them sothere's brands.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
So if I'm going to use a brand right, I look at the
advertising and all themarketing for aussie bum, who is
an aussie brand.
Um underwear underwear andswimwear.
Um company right for both menand women.
But they started out as atargeted gay audience definitely
.
I don't know what their historyis, but they use guys from all
(46:35):
sizes, shapes and all that kindof stuff the same as budgie
smugglers.
Budgie smugglers do the same.
All right, now, aussie bum,they have underwear that lifts
you up and pushes you forward,right.
So it gives what you've gotright, that look of being bigger
and fuller.
And I have those.
Definitely have those right.
(46:57):
So I get wanting to look bigger, feel bigger, all that kind of
stuff, because that's what themedia tells us, and all that
kind of stuff.
But if somebody is telling methat I should be doing this for
their campaign, I'd almost besaying find a new model.
Um, if you want one that'sgoing to have a giant cock well,
(47:17):
this is what gets me.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
They've chosen him for a reason.
Yeah, because he fits the billwith everything.
He's got his looks, he's gotthe body and he's obviously got
the cock initially.
What they want, so just byasking him to put a prosthetic
pouch inside to give him a bitmore enhancement to emphasise
their design, either is afailure from their brand design
(47:37):
for not allowing it to happennaturally, or they are just
being very Close-mindedClose-minded exactly, and I
don't believe that he shouldhave to do that.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
No, and they should apologize to him personally, I
think, for even asking him yeah,I'd be, I'd I'd be hesitant to
work with him again, quitehonestly, um, and I'd be saying,
well, just ask him why I'm inunderwear.
Fuck you, I'll go make my ownunderwear that fits all types of
men.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yeah, because it should be elastic, but from the
from the videos he sent us ofthe actual shoot.
It looks amazing, yeah, itlooks great, I mean, and they
weren't.
Even when he had no underwearon, you could see his balls
hanging down, yeah, between hislegs, yes, so, and they had no
issue with taking photographs ofhim like that, did they?
you know I mean so they looktasty too, absolutely, you know,
people didn't get to see thefront shots at the same time but
(48:27):
look, at the end of the day, Ithink you know you need to just
say to them, you know, I mean,is it necessary?
What are your reasons for mehaving to do this?
Yeah, and argue your case,because I don't think they need
to insist on you doing it,because I think you've got an
adequate size penis, but also abody and a face that matches
everything they're asking of you.
So you know, for me it's a bitof an insult for them to ask you
(48:50):
.
Yeah, personally, yeah, butagain, I mean, it's up to you.
You're the one that's doing themodeling.
So if you feel like you, youfeel like you want to do that,
that's up to you.
And if you got, if they'reasking you and you feel it's
acceptable, then that's fine.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
But certainly don't brand yourself as a small cock
model because you don't need tohave a small dick, buddy.
Um, you definitely don't have asmall dick and, like I said,
come to aussie, come to sydneyand um, we'll take it for a test
right.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
I'm sure there'll be other modeling companies over
here that would hire you in aheartbeat, you know yeah 100.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
You're a very, very good looking man.
Yeah, definitely, um, but yeahso um so small cock, small cock.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Rebrand not needed at all, not for you anyway, my
friend.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
No, not for you.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
And yeah, you're going to get plenty of followers
on your X and I'd like to seewhat the actual campaign looks
like at the end of it.
So if you do get to, yeah, sendus through, send us a link of
the company.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
I'll see it anyway, because I follow you on
Instagram anyway.
But yes, I'll see it all anyway, so I'll look forward to that
anyway.
But yeah, if you have anyquestions or if you'd like us to
discuss anything, how do theydo that, Dave?
Speaker 2 (49:58):
You can contact us on any of our social platforms,
especially Instagram, which Mattkeeps on saying that Philly
Ground Homos podcast, sorry andour email,
phillygrandhomospodcast atgmailcom.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
And don't forget to jump onto iTunes or Spotify and
have a listen to any of ourAI-made songs or AI-generated
AI-generated We've actuallycreated them.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
We have created them, and a lot of people say to us
it's not all AI.
No.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
We do put in a lot of words and stuff.
We put the words, we put inwhat we want it to sound like
exactly and we choose a genreand everything else.
So it's all down to we writethe lyrics, we do all that kind
of stuff for it.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
But we've had fun.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
Well, me more so because I've had more time with
or four out there.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Disco Cinderella is probably our favourite there's
one that we can't publish,because we're hoping that we
might be able to use it forEurovision next year if we get a
chance We'll see.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
We won't because they don't allow any songs with any
components of AI in Eurovisionno it doesn't say that it does.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
It didn't say that it haven't been published or
anything, or haven't been outthere to get popularity, because
it has to be done, uh, prior tobeing selected.
So as long as it's all in-house, okay, um, because we still
created the lyrics.
I mean, at the end of the day,it's just because, again, good
luck getting in touch witheurovision for that.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah, anyway, yeah, good luck, good luck.
It's a good song.
You can endeavor to do that.
That can be your next project,thank you, but yeah, um, but
yeah, we've had fun with that.
So jump onto either itunes orspotify's and look up fully
grown homos you'll find ourtracks there.
Or you can jump on and type inmatt kavanagh and find my songs
as well that I've actuallywritten and sang yeah, and
(51:41):
there's a few songs on therethat I think that you'll be able
to sing on your own, yeah.
I do have my own.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
But what I'm saying is a few songs that we've
created that you'll be able toeasily make into your own this
silly thing called work thatgets in the way.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Alright, we've been your Fully Grown Homos.
I've been Matt, I've been Dave,as usual, and we'll talk to you
soon.
Love you, bye.
That's a wrap from us.
We've been your Fully GrownHomos and we look forward to
opening your mind, your ears andyour curiosities.
Don't forget to like, commentand subscribe, and share our
podcast with your curiousfriends.
You can contact us onfullygrownhomospodcast at
(52:18):
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Welcome to Fully Grown Homos, a podcast about our
adventures as fully grown homosnavigating today's world full
of inquisitive friends,questions about gay life and the
unexplored activities of a lifelived as fully grown homos.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
We'll discuss the gay 101s, sex sexuality and topics
we don't even know yet, as wewant your input into what you
want to hear.
Nothing is off limits, so emailus on the Fully Grown Homos
podcast at gmailcom or messageany of our socials.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Fully Grown Homos with Dave and Matt.
(00:55):
On today's episode, we're goingto cover off a few things,
aren't we Dave?
We're going to talk about thelanguage of homosexuality and
some of the slurs and stuff likethat we're going to go through
a few things.
We're going to do our normalsegment Dave's Letter of the Day
and we're going to discusssomething that one of our
(01:17):
listeners has sent in to us.
So it's going to be quite abroad spectrum of discussions.
Yeah, we're going to run thegamut, but first of all what's
been happening.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Not a lot this week.
I know We've had quite a boringweek really compared to our
usual week, haven't we reallyyeah?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
it's been very non-eventful this week, which is
kind of good, Busy butnon-eventful.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nothing to report on.
We haven't been out anywhere,we haven't done anything
spectacular, we haven't gotanything to report on but now
I've gone back into my old role,yep, which is great.
I'm enjoying that which is likeon the bottom, but it's also up
in the air, yeah, so no, I'mnot bottom, I'm a verse.
Thank you very much we do likeit that way I do like bottoming,
(01:58):
I like topping, I like.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
It depends on my mood um you like everything I do
like everything, I do likeeverything, I do like everything
.
You are a Verse.
Well, I'd be considered verseVerse.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, verse, verse top More than verse.
I'm verse top.
Yeah, that's what's written onmy Grindr profile.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, Everyone lies on the Grindr profile.
They do.
When I say verse, you know whatit means bottom.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
It's like sending a dick pic and saying that's me
and they say no, it's not.
I say, well, that's not yourface either.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
No, correct.
Well, yeah, where is your face?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, got a few of those last night.
Anyway, we digress.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's normal, and we haven't even got into it.
You're not even two minutes in,so not a lot has been happening
.
We went out on Mother's Day,didn't we?
Yeah, we did.
It was in a club.
That was nice, even though wedidn't have our mothers there,
because yours is no longer withus, unfortunately.
Mine's in the grave, and mineis in the UK.
And I'll leave that one thereat the moment.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
But we celebrated all women.
Yeah, we did All women allmothers out there, I celebrate
you and it's a big job.
I don't doubt it.
I know I was an angel of achild to raise.
Obviously, unlike my siblings,they were very hard work.
That's why I'm the favouritechild.
I'm not the favourite child atall.
(03:18):
Never was, never will be.
I was, yes, but there is somephenomenal mums out there that
we've got in our circle, so wecelebrate them and happy
Mother's Day to them.
But straight into this week's,oh, I had a tooth pulled out.
Oh, you did that's exciting.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, it was exciting for the dentist because he got
a bigger bank balance for theday, didn't he?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
He took your money.
It wasn't as bad as I actuallyexpected to be.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Oh look, any surgical extractions is not good.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, but I was expecting a thousand plus and it
was only like and when I sayonly six hundred dollars, it's
not like I have six hundreddollars just sitting there, but
it wasn't the thousands ofdollars that I was expecting and
that's the sad thing aboutgoing to dentists a lot of
people put off just because ofthe price.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
If the price was cheaper then people would be
more inclined to go I don't like.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I've had so many horror stories stories around
dentistry, um, even from some ofmy family members where they
went there and the dentist said,oh, you need to get this done,
you need to get that done, youneed to get that done and
they're looking at like thousand, tens of thousands of, yeah,
remortgaging the house.
Yeah, yeah, yeah and thisdentist didn't do that.
He basically said here's youroptions.
(04:29):
If I was you, I'd be going forthe extraction, knowing the fact
that you haven't been to adentist in 10 plus years.
Clearly your teeth aren't yourtop priority.
However, like you know, they'renot too bad.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
So I'm just looking at one of Matt's plants.
He's got some brown bits on hismonsterias, which is not good.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
No, that's normal.
That's normal With the reallywhite leaves.
They go brown earlier.
I usually just take scissors tothem so you don't see them.
Oh, I've never seen them brownbefore.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's normal.
That's absolutely positivelynormal.
Okay, normal.
Okay, he's not neglecting his.
He's talking about my Thaiconstellation monsteria your cog
, no, thai constellationmonsteria.
And they are very pretty, um,but when you get an all white
(05:11):
leaf, it's all like, oh god, itlooks so pretty initially, but I
know this is going to happen toit because and I do give it um
silica to try and prolong it.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It's just like a white man sitting in the sun and
he goes red, gets brown.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yeah, yeah it's got a suntan but it's crispy anyway,
again digressing not even fiveminutes in, and we've digressed
him multiple times already.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
There you go talking of being out of the Panthers.
This is where our next topic ofconversation is going to come
into.
So at Panthers, on Mother's Day, we run into our friends who we
love very dearly Ryan and Tomfrom the club.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
And they had a chat with Dave.
Yep, dave told them, they toldDave.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
So basically I was just asking them how their week
was and they were explaining tome how it was and what they did
for Mother's Day, et cetera, etcetera, and then Ryan said to me
he goes's.
Actually I mentioned about oneof the, the members of the of of
a member of of the club club,that's it.
Yeah, sorry, because staffmembers not just remember the
(06:14):
club, that goes their frequencyevery week.
We don't tend to get on withhim.
I don't get on with him.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I don't really like him, like to everyone, and matt
is polite and because of hispoliteness this guy has decided
that we're best buddies and hesays hi to me every week and
asks me how am I going to wintoday?
Am I going to do?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
this and whether they're going to leave anything
for him and everything else.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, and to which, when he says to me, you're going
to leave anything for us, Iusually turn around and go fuck,
no, absolutely not.
I'm going to win everything andI roll my he doing.
And his girlfriend's a moronright.
She walks around.
She's on disability, she walksaround with a stick in her hand
when it suits her, when it suitsher, except for when she's
winning, and she suddenlyforgets that she needs a said
stick.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And she comes running up the stairs on the pokies, or
if she's walking from notwell-liked in the club anyway.
And they're not nice people,and that's between the staff
members and the general publicas well.
So it's not just us thatdoesn't like them, but anyway
the topic of conversation was Iwas just talking to Ryan about
his week and then he said oh,this particular guy won't name
(07:17):
names because there's no point,because he's a fucktist, he's
not even worth having a name.
Um, but basically he said, oh,that guy your friends.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, he said I know your friends and I, like ryan,
said who right?
And he went.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
The fucking poofters right and ryan went really
really you got a problem withthat to which he sort of said,
well, um, and then ryan thenturned around and said, well,
I'm one, but I'm not a pufter,I'm a gay man, and have you got
a problem with it, you know?
So that's where theconversation came, because, I
(07:51):
mean, I was a little bit shocked, because I mean, this day and
age, there's no need to discussthat sort of terminology with
people.
Anyway.
Now he knows our names, so hecould have referred to us as
Matt and Dave, as most people inthe club all know us.
They either call us matt anddave or the boys, so that's how
we're referred to all the time.
We've never had a single issuewith anybody in the club and
they've never had an issue withus either.
(08:12):
But for some reason, this guywho again, like I said, where I
gave him many benefits of doubtof even calling my name, because
to me he's like a amoeba, umsingle cell, that's all he is.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
So yeah, for me personally, I don't give a
flying fuck what someone callsme, right, because someone's
opinion of me is not my problem,right?
Somebody's?
Um?
If they want to call mewhatever they want, go for it.
However, it's time to geteducated, right?
(08:42):
We do it quite frequently,right?
I educate Dave on the regularabout what's okay to say now, in
2025, and what's not okay.
I also learn quite frequentlywhat's okay to say and what's
not okay to say.
I often stuff up, but it's notwith malice or with intent,
(09:03):
right?
So this moron was saying it ina way that was meant as a slur.
It was meant as a derogatoryterm.
Right Now, I've got friendsthat I've got one of my good
friends' husband will happilycall each other.
Him and his mates will calleach other fag, right?
I don't get offended becausethey're him and his mates, right
(09:25):
?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
but it's not derogatory towards it.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
He's not no no, he's not meaning it as a derogatory
term, right, but that's justpart of their language, right,
which is not actually offensive,because the way it's said when
he says it is not offensive,right, and that's um mark
anthony claire's okay and himand all his mates and, and he's
called me names, but again, hedoesn't say it with any hate or
(09:49):
with any vitriol or anythinglike that, and I do not take
offense to it, right, I do notand will not.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
But he's also said it's your face rather than
behind your face, as well,correct, correct.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
And that's even worse when people are talking behind
your back if I thought for onesecond it was meant to be
something that was a negativestatement, I would stand up for
myself.
Um, you know that?
Um, and I am waiting for thismoron at the club to actually
have just just some kind ofballs to say hi to me again well
, my army he's been annoying, he, he's, he, um.
(10:23):
hasn't even looked my directionsince then.
So he must have realized fromRyan that that's not okay and he
must know, or must have known,that Ryan's come and said
something back.
Well, we were at the club lastnight.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, we were.
We had Miami with us and herhusband, Now Miami's a
firecracker, she is All right.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
So she is a fucking short fuse.
All right, so she is all right.
So she is a short fuse, allright.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
So she has been charged for assault in previous
years, but she took offense towhat we were saying.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
She didn't like it she's very protective of her
friends, especially me.
I'm her, her person and she's,and she's one of mine and she's
very protective.
Well, she got up to go and gether son and this fuckwit walked
past and he's going oh, is ityou?
I mean because the rafflenumber had just gone out.
He's going no mate, might beone of the fucking poofters,
(11:15):
right?
Well, he legged it.
He didn't look backwards.
There's no way he couldn't haveheard it.
Yeah, but yeah.
But let's move on from that.
Yeah, because that's brought usto today's topic.
Right, and that is what isacceptable, language and what is
just some.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Just classified as normal these days, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And we've gone to, I guess, some Googling yeah,
because that's our go-to rightand we've actually looked at
different words from differenttimes and some of their
different origins and thingslike that, and we've actually
learnt a little bit today.
Well, there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
I'm still learning there's so many words here, so
so if we go to Fag, Hag rightnow, which is what Miami is, and
that's not an offensive word toher and so is Cleo, and Cleo
owns that word, right, she ownsit.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
She's been a fag hag for years and she knows that,
right.
So a fag hag is typically awoman, a heterosexual woman, who
basically hangs out with gayguys more than she does other
straight people generally, andstuff like that.
Um now, cleo and myself used togo to um Ark, which was a
nightclub in Sydney back in theday, and I don't know whether
(12:34):
she was hanging around with gaymen because it was cool and
because we were like awesome, orbecause every freaking time we
went to Ark she would pick up.
Ark was a gay bar, right, shewould pick up a straight man
there every single time withoutfail, right, every single time.
Right, it was freakingoutrageous.
But fag hag was actuallyderived or invented I don't know
(12:58):
what the word is discovered inthe 1960s, right.
So that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
But, dave, there's a word that we didn't know existed
and it is very similar to faghag, but it is a fag stag.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
A fag stag, which is a heterosexual man who enjoys
the company of gay men and thenit's got in brackets.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
rare, because a lot of straight men don't normally
hang around gay men.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, like the same with women or get enjoyment out
of it by association.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
yeah, because normally they turn to become gay
themselves.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
You know I mean but that was actually from the 1990s
.
That came into play.
Yep, um, and again we're 2025.
I can't believe I'd never heardof that.
Because exactly like and and itis quite rare, because I've got
a lot of straight mates right,but they don't really hang
around.
Even when I was in the scene,it wasn't the straight boys that
(13:49):
hung around the gay scene somuch, it was just if they were
there with their girlfriends andstuff like that.
And I've got a lot of guys thathave definitely hung out at gay
bars and that with me, but onlybecause they had the better
music, the better dance floors,the better DJs or better drinks
the better music, the betterdance floors, the better DJs.
(14:09):
All the better drinks.
The better drugs, the bettereverything.
But they weren't there to hangout with the gay boys, they were
there for the whole vibe of itall.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
As such, so yeah, that one actually was quite.
I've got one here, matt.
It's called Doric Love.
Have you ever heard of thatbefore?
I've not heard of this, neitherhave I, and basically it's a
term used from the 1920s as anexpression for gay sex or
romance relating to classicalgreek terms, sometimes with
(14:36):
overtones of pre sorry, ped,drastic, pedrash katia can't say
the word now pederast,pederastity yeah, yeah, which
you looked up that word and whatdoes that mean?
And it basically Pedarascity, Ican't say the word now
Pedaracity.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, yeah, pedaracity, you looked up that
word and what does that mean?
And it basically says that it'smen in a relationship with
older, men in a relationshipwith a young boy, or sexual
relations, sexual relations witha young boy.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Which now turns into more like Pedophilia Pedophilia
Almost Right, so yeah, likepedophilia pedophilia almost
right, so yeah, so again, andthat was, that was from.
Let me just go back into 1920s,1920s.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
There you go.
Okay, you invented that.
Oh, thank you.
Yes, um, you've got curry queen, and um, what do you think that
would be dave?
I don't know, I haven't lookedthat far ah, that's a gay man
who was attracted to indian.
Oh, so you're a curry queenthen?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
You were a curry queen for a long time.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
That was an offensive racial overtones that had, and
that was in the 1990s, again inthe USA that came about.
So I do know of the term ricequeen, which is again that's
similar to the curry queen andthat's somebody that's actually
attracted to young Asian men assuch.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
So I know about that one I got another one called an
egg egg.
What's an egg?
An egg is basically a slangterm originating online, so it's
from the 21st century, somodern times.
For a person who has not yetrealized they are transgender,
has not yet come out or is in anearly stages of transitioning,
usually used fondly by transpeople to recognize when some,
(16:10):
when aspects of someone'spersonality or behavior remind
them of gender related aspectsof themselves before they
realize they were trans, isnecessary to refer to this in
description, use, speculationabout trans or discussion about
pre-early transition experiences.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
So an egg just like an embryo hasn't hatched, I
suppose, yeah, and I guess it isthe 21st century that one was
discovered.
So, um, and I think there is, Iguess, as we open up our gender
barriers, a lot more, um, thatis very, very common for people
to actually sort of, and andagain it's it's like us, I guess
(16:48):
we spot young gay boys not boys, but young gay men.
We go, oh, they're going to begay when they get older.
Um, and sort of, you can youcan sort of pick certain things
if you're part of that community.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
What's your feelings on the word being called a fairy
?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
oh, look again, I don't care, I know, but I'm not,
I'm so I guess the thedefinition of it is like very
effeminate and all that kind ofstuff and that does not fit with
me, unless of course I've had acouple of picardy breezes that
I can be fairy like um, but it'snot I.
I don't take offense toanything right like literally,
(17:24):
unless it's said with vitriol.
Then I will be offended, rightand fuck.
If I get offended by somethingyou better watch out, because
you'll know you've offended me.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Well, it was originally a slang word used for
the meaning of promiscuouswomen oh, okay there you go, so
I'm just putting you right on afew things here.
Yeah, basically it's beenaround since 1890s, 1890s.
Wow, so they slid it around, so,yeah, so promiscuous women were
fairies back in the day, okay,and then it's been, then
(17:55):
reclaimed by the gay men in the1960s, only used as an
individual self-described inthis way.
So if you want to be called afairy, you can be called a fairy
.
We know people that that thencall themselves fairies in the
game and it's just a term thatthey like being called.
It just makes them like acommunity base or like um group,
doesn't you know?
(18:16):
There you go again.
You learn from from factualinformation.
Sometimes googling is prettygood, sometimes it's not what
about this one?
Speaker 1 (18:23):
d Dave?
Go on then.
Have you ever been this oneCalled this one Rough trade?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
A rough trade.
I'd like to be called a roughtrade.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Well, rough trade is slang for a man who identifies
as straight but sometimes hassex with queer men, usually as a
top All right, okay, queer, men.
Yeah, with queer men.
So that was derived in the1960s, oh wow.
So that was a long time ago.
So I've always said I likerough trade, but I didn't
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realise what I was actuallysaying.
So I'm going to come out ofthis session a whole lot more
educated.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, and you're going to rename yourself.
A lot more different things,aren't?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
you a whole heap of things.
You're going to change yourbirth certificate now.
That just jumped down.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I don't know why that disappeared.
Do you reckon sam smith willappear on this soon?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
stop it I can't go into oyster territory again.
He's had too much hair play sothere's a word, dave back it.
If you can remember, all theway back to our very first
podcast, what was the word thatI actually schooled you on back
then?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
You schooled me on yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I told you that's not an okay word to say anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Oh Well, I'm allowed to say it now You're allowed to
say it for the context of this.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Okay, the word is tranny, that's correct.
Yeah, and here it says highlyoffensive slur for a trans
person.
Originally used to conflatetranssexual people,
transvestites and drag queens,mainly used about trans feminine
people, but offensive to alltrans people.
Tranny is extremely offensiveand avoid speaking it aloud.
(19:58):
And that was the 1970s.
It was come about which, again,I know this and Dave now knows
this because he's actually sortof been taught by myself.
Yeah, but it's not an okay word.
The words that are great to useis their name.
Ask the person what their nameis or what their preference is
(20:19):
to be called.
And because I have heard othertrans folk call each other
tranny and again, that's like mecalling Dave a fully grown homo
.
That's what we are we're homos,but it's actually.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
It's offensive to them, isn't it?
That's an offensive word aswell.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I wonder if that is actually on the list.
Homo, it is here.
It says shortened form ofhomosexual, often derogatory,
always used in the full term indescription, and that was the
1920s.
All right, so, and obviously wedon't take offense to the word
homo, because otherwise we wouldnever have put it in our title.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, exactly Of the show the fully grown homos.
But we own that anyway in termsof like, we own the word
homosexuality in terms of for us, we're happy with that, yep,
homos and stuff like that,because we are homosexuals and
that's a word that's.
It describes the gender ofpeople we are yep, you know, or
the group of people we are notgender yeah our gender is male.
Yes, exactly.
(21:19):
Have you ever heard of a, a gaycat?
Speaker 1 (21:23):
no, what's a gay cat?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
a gay cat is a slang used primarily in unhoused sorry
in in unhold, sorry.
I'll start again.
Slang used primarily inunhoused or criminal communities
from the first half of the 20thcentury in the us generally
donatinga younger homosexualcompanion oh, okay, there you go
.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Okay, and um, there was one in here I've seen before
and I can't find it now, but itwas something about prison and
all that kind of stuff and youlike prison.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
You love prison, sex.
You love everything aboutprison, don't you?
I like the idea of going.
What about you know, gold?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
oh, here it was here it was um, it was a gump, a
slang used by incarcerated menin the us to denote a person in
a passive role in gay sex, andthat was in the 1980s.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
So so, what going on yeah so yeah, gump.
Well, I got one very similar.
It's like gonsel or gunsel orgun shell or gunsel, and it's
slang used by incarcerated andunhoused communities in the us
to donate young gay men or boy.
Okay, so again, this is veryinteresting as we're reading
through.
Oh yeah, it's above your one,you just come.
(22:35):
Yeah, um, I've got one herewhich I've written down, so I'm
going to go to on my listbecause I want to make sure I've
got it right.
Um, yeah, do you know what aprussian is?
A prussian p-r-u-s-h-o-n?
I think I've got one of those.
That works for me.
Well, it's a slang, slang wordused by unhoused communities,
again in the us, to donate ayoung gay man who travels with
(22:57):
an older companion.
Okay so a cushion is like acushion, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, that's actually from the 1890s to the 1980s
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
I've never heard of it.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, again, there's some, but, to be fair, never
heard of.
There are a lot of words thatyou say that I've never heard of
and I don't.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I'm.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
English.
You're Australian by birth.
That heard of, and I don't.
I'm english.
You're australian by birth.
That's probably why it's likeyou run.
I speak australian, um, and youspeak english.
Is that australian oraustralian?
Australian, australian,australia, australia.
Welcome to australia, buddy.
Yo, um yeah, so there's lots ofinteresting words on here, um
(23:36):
any other highlights that youneed to call out before we jump
there's?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
one, like I said to you earlier, the word stud.
Now, if I said to you stud, Imean my interpretation I'd say
thanks, yeah, I know I am.
Yeah, well, we refer to, likeyou say oh, look at that stud
over there, and it's not like abit of wood which, like trainees
would use like a stud wall,it's like referring to a hot
looking guy technically, isn'tit?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
yeah, well a stud is usually the the thoroughbred
it's no, it's usually themasculine version of the slut.
So it's like if a girl's fuckeda lot of people, right, it's
usually usually in my brainbefore reading anything.
It would be like the slut wouldbe the girl that was
promiscuous and fucked everyoneand the guy that, and it would
have like the slut would be thegirl that was promiscuous and
fucked everyone and the guy that, and it would have like the
(24:23):
slut would have the negativeconnotation and the stud would
be the male version that'sfucked everyone, but that's a
positive connotation, whichagain, I think is wrong.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
But that's not what stud means you told me no, so
you're talking the 20th century.
So you're talking only sort oflike just before the 20th
century.
Yeah, so 2000, so up until 1999he was described.
So, basically, community termused for african-american or
latinx masculine queer women,also known as ag.
(24:52):
Ag only use if someoneself-describes in this way and
avoid using for white people, asthis is a term specifically
developed by and forafrican-american and latinx
communities only.
Yeah, there you go, which is so.
Would that be offensive, then,if you, a lesbian, was to call a
white woman a stud, I supposeit would be, wouldn't it?
(25:13):
because it's not really meantfor them, is it?
Yeah, so it's more likeAfrican-Americans and Latinx
women.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
So I also went.
So I also before we end thispart of this session, right,
because we've still got lotsmore to do today.
Yeah, but I went to UrbanDictionary to look up the word
pufta, because I love UrbanDictionary, it's got some great
examples and stuff like that,and it actually tells me that
there's a.
It's a slang word originatingfrom australia in the 1960s,
(25:46):
meaning homosexual word can bederogatory depending on the
context and user's intent, right?
He is so effeminate, mate, whata pofter, right?
But then it's got it because,because um urban dictionary
always gives you a little bit ofa um, a little bit of um a
sentence, to put it in, so a bitof context.
(26:08):
And it says here, um.
And it says andrew, runningaround in hot pink, arseless
chaps and muscle shirt and alittle shih tzu with him, me, oh
jesus, andrew, you're such abloody poof um, okay, well,
that's not a derogatory word, no, no, but this is like that's
(26:28):
just again.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
It's like society, I mean, it's like there's.
I mean poof is not really, inmy opinion, an offensive,
offensive word, but when it'sused in the derogatory sense it
was which was no need for.
Then it becomes derogatory andoffensive to me then, yeah,
because there was no need forthat comment to even even being
entertained.
Yeah, I mean, he knew our names.
(26:50):
He didn't have to refer to usanybody, you know that way.
So that that just summed up hisnegativity to being a?
Um, what do you call it?
Speaker 1 (26:57):
a homophobe, a homophobe, a homophobe, a moron.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Just at the very end of this little segment here,
matt, it's got a list of slursthat generally refer to gay and
feminine men.
All of these terms areoffensive and should never be
used or replicated unlessnecessary as part of a title or
other identifier, in which caseenclosed in question marks only.
And these words are arsebanditse, fucker, booty bandit,
(27:24):
brownie you never heard ofbrownie before um bum bandit,
bum boy, um butt pirate, benderbent.
The words go on and on, yeah,yeah.
So you know these sort of wordsare ones that really are quite
offensive to the gay community.
I suppose when you get like afudge pack of filthy girly boy,
mincer, pillow biter, I don'tmind, pillow biter, pillow
(27:46):
biter's all right.
Shirtlifter, you know thesesort of things are turbo.
These are words that we'veactually heard in the community
and they can be offensive.
I get it.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
They can be Correct, they can be.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
And it you know.
I mean they can be correct,they can be, and again, I think
it's all relevant to where thecontext, what's the context and
the intent that it's said with.
So if you've got any specialwords that you want to tell us
about and we'll investigate abit more then let us know on how
they're going to do that matt,yeah, they're going to let us
know on any of our socials,mainly instagram, because I
really don't check facebookbecause it's really you don't
even listen to the podcast, halfthe time I'm joking he always
(28:17):
listens to the podcast.
Yes, he has to, because he hasto okay, you do um.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
So I would say you can contact us on our socials at
fullygrownhomospodcast, or youcan email us at
fullygrownhomospodcast atgmailcom.
Yep, but right now it's timefor for Dave's Letter of the Day
.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
So you're going to have to get into my bag of balls
again, Matt.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Okay, so I'm going to reach in to Dave's balls.
You've got to move over so youcan grab the balls and I'm going
to yep, oh, okay, you haven'tshaved in a while.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Dave, that's not my.
Yeah, that's not the one youwant.
Pick another one.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Okay, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
All right, want oh pick another one.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Okay, all right, all right, reach it in grabbing,
grabbing.
Oh, what's you doing?
No, oh yeah, fuck, you've justcome on my hand um, okay, that's
not come, just me that's pissedsorry reached in.
I've got your ball here.
It is dave.
What letter have?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
I got, you got the letter, so you got letter f matt
.
So I'm just gonna have to gothrough my diary all my letters.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Sorry, we're there okay, so day's letter of the day
today is the letter.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Find where f p f here he goes.
I think we've had that before,but I've got a different list
here as well well, there you go,there you go okay, so different
list of f balls, f bombs, fbombs.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
So first word is fellatio, fellatio love it um
it's basically oral um givenblowjobs not basically it is, it
is it is oral.
It's um the technical term forfor blowjobs, and I love them.
They're my favorite.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
No, they're not my favorite oh, you can't do at the
moment, because you can toothy.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I can't because I've got a tooth, but I can certainly
get one if you want to give one.
I had a wank this morning, soit's okay.
What was that last night?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
You can't freaking remember, because you're so busy
.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I had one last night actually.
But fellatio, I love it.
I like it with a little bit ofteeth, sometimes not too much
Teeth, yeah, not scraping, butjust the feel of it a little bit
.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah, there's some really bad people out there.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
I love it when people put my balls in their mouth.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
And suck them hard, oh yeah.
Really hard.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I like it when they're squeezed.
Do you like them being smacked,not smacked?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Some people like them being smacked, squeezed.
I don't know.
I'd like them squeezeddefinitely.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Sucked is good, smacked or whatever, um, but I
yeah, I'm not good on pain.
I like the sound of ballsslapping.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Oh yeah, that's good.
Yeah, that's really good.
Or?
Speaker 1 (30:52):
even your ass cheeks being slapped, yeah, yeah,
lightly lightly.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I don't like being slapped or smacked or anything
like that no, no, yeah, davidI'm precious doesn't like pain
um no, um, all right, all right,I think we've covered off.
Yeah, moving on to that,otherwise I'll get hard.
We'll go on to food play food,play food play.
We were talking about this theother week, weren't we about
dressing someone up and eatingoff them?
(31:15):
Yeah, we were.
We were talking about that.
That was one type of food.
That was last weekend we did go.
I can't remember half thefucking time, but we missed it
because it wasn't that exciting.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
The company was great , but anyway, we were on food
play.
We were going to put thebirthday boy down, which was
Justin Brittany's husband, andeat off him like a sushi plate,
weren't we?
No sushi, just pure cream, andthen make some more, but food,
food play.
So in the past I have actuallyand then make some more Yep, but
(31:49):
food food play.
So in the past I have actuallygone the whole chocolate sauce
and stuff like that on nipples.
Don't do chocolate sauce whenyou're rooming someone.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
That could get messy.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
And if somebody actually has an accident it
could taste bad.
But I've done the chocolatesauce on nipples and stuff like
that before cream cream.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
I've never done honey because I'm always quite hairy
about things like strawberriesand stuff like that strawberries
yeah, I've never bananas.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I've seen somebody put skittles under their
foreskin.
Yes, we've seen that, yeah,yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
And what do they say?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
let's shoot the rainbow yeah, yeah, what shoot
the rainbow?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Taste the rainbow, taste therainbow, yeah, yeah what shoot
the rainbow?
Speaker 2 (32:26):
yeah, yeah, yeah, taste the rainbow taste the
rainbow um food play.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
What else have I used ?
Well, I haven't used any thingslike carrots, but I know
someone that has yeah, thatwasn't really food play, so it
was an object that was usedwhich is food, play that's what
food play is.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
No, I associate food play with more as fun fun stuff.
You're eating, though it wasfun.
Yeah, what I'm saying is it'snot I don't know.
Yeah, it's difficult.
In my mind, food play should besort of like whipped cream yeah
, strawberries, custard, honey,ice cream melted on your skin.
I've got to make ice cream, butyou're an ice cream maker now,
(33:04):
so just let you know we aredon't build in as we do always
all's go next, but food play,would you?
Would have you done themilkshake man?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
oh, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah gojo, yeah gojo, our
representative from eurovision,who unfortunately didn't make it
to the finals.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I don't know why, but he was phenomenal, it's a bit
like benson boone in his outfitwise, he was fucking packing
money was, and he loved it aswell, and I think the audience
loved it.
Yeah, where there was a yum-yum, weren't they?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yum-yum, yum-yum.
Yeah, it was awesome.
Talking of yum-yum, talking ofthings have you ever used things
like spaghetti and stuff inyour body?
No, I haven't like spaghetti.
You know this.
I'm not a fan of spaghettibolognese.
No.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
No, but Tin spaghetti , I don't mind, no, I just mean
pasta, then Pasta on On you Forfood play, For food play.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Yeah, no, no that would get too messy, Really no
no, isn't messier, the better.
Well, no, because I've got toclean up.
I'm a single man.
I'm going to clean up half formyself, yeah yeah, what's the
next word, dave?
Speaker 2 (34:10):
okay, next one is face sitting face sitting.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Oh well, we know what happened the last time I sat in
someone's face.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
You shut yourself I'm joking, he stuck his tongue
right in my hole.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, and I fucking came everywhere and I hadn't
done that before.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
That was fucking amazing, but I do like to get my
hole eaten, yeah, but you don'teven have to have your hole.
It could be your balls, itcould be your cock in his mouth,
just basically squatting oversomeone's face and letting them
use their tongue.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, as long as I know, I'm completely douched and
cleaned and everything's safeand there's no chance of
anything else coming out.
Because, if there's no chanceof anything else coming out,
because if there's any chanceand somebody goes to go down
there again, no, no, no, no,thanks, yep, yep, um, so yeah,
but I, but I do love it's goodwith threesomes as well, because
you can have one sitting on theother person's cock, riding
them, yeah, facing you as youface them.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Sitting on his face yeah, and that's interesting.
That's gonna be good as well.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I can help, yeah so, face, it's a good one to have
you to have a go, yep.
Then you're looking at frot orfrotting, frotting, oh my God.
I haven't heard of this foryears.
I know right.
Oh, wow, that's lovely.
I love watching the videos on X, yeah, and basically what
frotting is is accidentallyrubbing up against someone.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
It's the art of rubbing against each other's
cocks, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, but I've also seen it done on trains, in
public places and stuff likethat, and you'll see like one
guy with his hand on the barholding the bar and another guy
will be like rubbing his cock onthe bar and they're both
consenting right.
Well, the bar, Well, and youcan see one.
They'll be looking at eachother and it's obviously staged.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
When you say a bar, what do you mean?
What sort of bar?
The bar you're holding on thetrain Right, not a bar you get
drinks from no.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Okay, like the pole.
Okay, sorry, fucking, I forgothe speaks English.
Sorry, listeners, come on.
So yeah, and you'll seesomebody like rubbing their hand
against the other guy's crotchand it's just like, oh, that's
kind of hot, I want to do that.
So yeah, frotting is good.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, it's actually a French word which means frotter
, which also means rubbing or torub.
Yeah, so frotter is the Frenchword for frottingting.
I hadn't heard of it for years.
There you go, so now you've gotyour little bit of memories
back.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Yeah, yeah a little fun time you smile on your face
onto x again, yep, yep, um, yougot uh, foreplay, foreplay
what's foreplay?
Who cares?
Um, get straight in there now.
I do like foreplay becauseforeplay is kissing and it's
touching and it's caressing andit's getting those juices
flowing, whether they be pre-cumor just your other kind of
(36:54):
juices, your energy juices areflowing Pretty much yeah, yeah,
I do like foreplay and it can beindividual or together or
multiple.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Yeah, so it's an important aspect, I of any
sexual act I suppose yeah, 100%okay, um you got.
What about facial facial?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
haha, we know someone that got a facial last weekend.
Um, don't we miami?
Yeah, um, so miami sent us somephotos in our um in our group
chat that we have called hose upthe hose chat, right, and um,
she basically had given herhusband all this self-care stuff
and he conceded to do it allbecause he got to basically give
(37:35):
her a facial.
Um, and when I said to her howto go and she said well, he's
not stupid, he's known me foryears he made sure he got his
first before I had to deliver onhis.
So that's why he was so relaxedin the photos, because he'd
already fucking dumped a load.
He was just ready to let her dowhatever at that stage.
So, yeah, but yeah, look, I'vegiven a facial to somebody.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
And what's your best terminology of facial?
Is it in the mouth, on the face?
Speaker 1 (38:00):
All over the face On the chin.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Some people like it on their chin, some some people
like it on their chin.
Some people like it, somepeople have I've seen a lot of
videos where they just fuckingsquirt.
It goes in their eye, goesevery fucking way yeah, I'm not
a fan of that you can't help itif you're fucking a big squirter
.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Yeah if you're a big squirt, I'm not a massive squirt
, I can come pretty hard.
You're talking younger guys,you know I mean but that guy
that came over to your house,that straight guy, yep, um
straight bisexual bisexual guy.
I'm sorry um and he wanted meto basically come all over his
face um and so I did.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
And then he went into the mirror and just stood there
looking at himself like this islike the fucking best thing
ever.
It was just like, yeah, this ishot, this is very hot and he'd
get turned on by, wouldn't he he?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
wanted to fucking do it again, and again, and again,
but we Dave's moved now so hecan't find him.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
So yeah, the last one is foot job.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Okay, yeah, no, I don't mind foot jobs.
I've rubbed my foot onsomebody's cock to get them hard
and all that kind of stuff, butI can't say that I've given
anyone a foot job.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I don't have to be sucking your toes no, obviously
no.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
We all know that that's a no for me, it's a yes
for me I know it's a yes fromyou, um, but a foot job for me
would be, I don't know, is that?
Speaker 2 (39:19):
well, I think it's quite hot, though, when some if
you're laying on one end andlike someone is sitting there
reading a book or something, canyou know you can see them see
the temptation is to reach outwith your foot and then start
rubbing their crotch.
Yeah, that's hot, that's hot,that's hot.
And then you end up fucking,just getting your foot together
and just fucking wanking themoff.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Well, you've seen my toe right, it's ugly.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
I'm not talking about your toe.
I'm talking about your foot.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah foot.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, I know, but my feet are also ugly um, but yeah
feet are ugly in general.
Speaker 1 (39:51):
I'm I'm.
I'm not a fan.
You're not a foot fetish.
I'm not, I don't have a footfetish.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
There's definitely fair to say, well, I don't have
a foot fetish but I enjoy theactual out of like maybe you do,
I don't know, it's not saying Igravitate to as like I've got
to do, I've got to go do.
It's just like if it happens ithappens and I get it turned on
and enjoy doing it.
You know what I mean?
I don't like socks, don't likeshoes, don't like all that sort
of thing.
They're fetishes.
(40:14):
I don't like them.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
I do like to see a pair of boots that come all over
my mouth.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
No, no, work boots.
That's pretty much my list of,anyway, for the F word today.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
For Dave's letter of the day.
So you can put your balls backin your sack now, dave, because
we're done for this week, forthat one, all right, so we have.
It's not really a question, butit's a bit of a listener
conundrum.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
This is someone that we've had contact with in the
past.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
We've had Sultan Royale contact reach out to us a
number of times.
Now he's a sexy, a fucking sexyunderwear model Very hot
looking guy.
He's a hot underwear model.
We need to meet up with him,and I can't remember where he's
from.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Argentina.
I think he's South America.
He's South American.
I think it's Argentina I think.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
But he's hot, regardless of where he's from,
he's actually smoking hot, right.
He is a sexy, sexy, sexy man,all right.
So he's reached out to us andhe said hey, dave and Matt, I
hope all's well, loving thepodcast, love to listen to you
guys on my runs and at timesI'll listen to have a wink,
which we love.
We do the same, don't worrythey always heard you work.
(41:32):
Chanel, stop it.
I don't know what my girls aregoing crazy for.
Sultan?
Yeah, they like him.
Good girl, all right.
So they ready to quiet?
Shush, come here.
Good girl, shirley, all right.
So are they ready to quiet?
No, sit.
(41:53):
Anyway, he's written here andhopefully I'll be able to get
through it without any morenoise and ruckus, shh, oi, shh.
Anyway, last year he wrote tous about his willy worries.
Now he wrote to us last yearand told us that he had
(42:14):
basically been told that he wassmall.
Now he sent us some pics and wedebated this, we reviewed and
we did do a podcast about penissize.
He inspired that podcast for usand he is well above average, I
would say yeah, yeah, he'sdefinitely above average.
Yep, um, especially hard now,none of us.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I'm, I'm sorry, bear with me, you carry on yep, you
carry on, take him out there.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
But yeah, um and um, he he wrote to us about his
willy worries.
Now, now, his willy worrieswere that he was small.
Now, he's not small.
He's got a decent-sized dick onhim.
Right, he's not a monster cock,but no one is, and, trust me,
I've had enough dick to fucking.
Know that.
Right, I've had lots and lotsand lots, especially over the
(43:01):
last few years, of being single.
Right, myself I'm a littleabove average.
Yeah, dave, you're average,average right, um, but again, um
, we've seen pictures of hisdick and it's not small.
No, right, it's, it's average.
And I think the people that arecomparing it are looking at
(43:24):
things like porn stars, which weall know they get hired because
they've got monsters right, andthe percentage of people out
there with a huge, huge big dickis only probably about 25 of
the population anyway.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
And that's world population.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
Yeah, correct, correct I mean, so that's only
if you're from I think it'sghana and places like that, but
yeah, but anyway.
So he wrote here basicallysaying he's started modelling
again this week Now he's lookingamazing.
He sent us a couple of videosand he's looking fantastic as
well.
His fucking ass is beautiful.
Yep God, I'd love to jump up onthat as well.
(44:00):
Come to Australia, have some funwith us.
Anyway, this time around thedesigner asked him to wear a
penis pouch right for the smallthongs.
And there was really no need,he said basically.
And then the designer alsoasked him to push his dick
downwards to give it a bit moreLength, Like a bit more oomph to
(44:23):
it, and stuff like that.
Now he said that he's thinkingof rebranding himself as a small
cock model.
Well, you can't do that,because your dick's not small,
Exactly, and more so youshouldn't need to anyway.
Yeah, Now your dick's not small,so you don't need to rebrand
yourself.
You've got a very nice cock anda very, very nice ass and a
(44:48):
very nice face.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
And a very nice face and you're a nice, handsome, and
you're a nice guy.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
from the communications that we've had
with you, you're a nice guy aswell.
So my conundrum here is aroundthe would you be inclined?
Why are you breathing so heavy?
Are?
Speaker 2 (45:08):
you all right heavy.
I'm chasing the fucking dogs,that's why.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Okay, all right, sorry I just thought fucking
hell.
Um, we're doing meditation.
I felt like I was back at yoga,um, so I would be hesitant to
put a pouch in for a couple ofreasons.
Right, number one you don'tneed to.
You don't need to, all right,but that's on you, that's up to
you.
Is my first point, right as tohow you want to be portrayed on
(45:31):
camera, if you want to give thevision that you're larger than
you are, um, you miss brandingyourself.
By all means go ahead and do itright, um, but it's not
necessary at all.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Um see, my take on it is that you're being um, what's
your?
The people that are asking youto do these things are body
shaming you.
In that regard, I think thatthey shouldn't be doing that.
They don't need to.
They like you.
They've chosen you to be amodel for a reason, and you've
got the body, you've got thelook and everything else, so why
they need to push you to put apouch down there when it's not
(46:07):
necessary?
Well that and that's on them sothere's brands.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
So if I'm going to use a brand right, I look at the
advertising and all themarketing for aussie bum, who is
an aussie brand.
Um underwear underwear andswimwear.
Um company right for both menand women.
But they started out as atargeted gay audience definitely
.
I don't know what their historyis, but they use guys from all
(46:35):
sizes, shapes and all that kindof stuff the same as budgie
smugglers.
Budgie smugglers do the same.
All right, now, aussie bum,they have underwear that lifts
you up and pushes you forward,right.
So it gives what you've gotright, that look of being bigger
and fuller.
And I have those.
Definitely have those right.
(46:57):
So I get wanting to look bigger, feel bigger, all that kind of
stuff, because that's what themedia tells us, and all that
kind of stuff.
But if somebody is telling methat I should be doing this for
their campaign, I'd almost besaying find a new model.
Um, if you want one that'sgoing to have a giant cock well,
(47:17):
this is what gets me.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
They've chosen him for a reason.
Yeah, because he fits the billwith everything.
He's got his looks, he's gotthe body and he's obviously got
the cock initially.
What they want, so just byasking him to put a prosthetic
pouch inside to give him a bitmore enhancement to emphasise
their design, either is afailure from their brand design
(47:37):
for not allowing it to happennaturally, or they are just
being very Close-mindedClose-minded exactly, and I
don't believe that he shouldhave to do that.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
No, and they should apologize to him personally, I
think, for even asking him yeah,I'd be, I'd I'd be hesitant to
work with him again, quitehonestly, um, and I'd be saying,
well, just ask him why I'm inunderwear.
Fuck you, I'll go make my ownunderwear that fits all types of
men.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Yeah, because it should be elastic, but from the
from the videos he sent us ofthe actual shoot.
It looks amazing, yeah, itlooks great, I mean, and they
weren't.
Even when he had no underwearon, you could see his balls
hanging down, yeah, between hislegs, yes, so, and they had no
issue with taking photographs ofhim like that, did they?
you know I mean so they looktasty too, absolutely, you know,
people didn't get to see thefront shots at the same time but
(48:27):
look, at the end of the day, Ithink you know you need to just
say to them, you know, I mean,is it necessary?
What are your reasons for mehaving to do this?
Yeah, and argue your case,because I don't think they need
to insist on you doing it,because I think you've got an
adequate size penis, but also abody and a face that matches
everything they're asking of you.
So you know, for me it's a bitof an insult for them to ask you
(48:50):
.
Yeah, personally, yeah, butagain, I mean, it's up to you.
You're the one that's doing themodeling.
So if you feel like you, youfeel like you want to do that,
that's up to you.
And if you got, if they'reasking you and you feel it's
acceptable, then that's fine.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
But certainly don't brand yourself as a small cock
model because you don't need tohave a small dick, buddy.
Um, you definitely don't have asmall dick and, like I said,
come to aussie, come to sydneyand um, we'll take it for a test
right.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
I'm sure there'll be other modeling companies over
here that would hire you in aheartbeat, you know yeah 100.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
You're a very, very good looking man.
Yeah, definitely, um, but yeahso um so small cock, small cock.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Rebrand not needed at all, not for you anyway, my
friend.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
No, not for you.
Speaker 2 (49:33):
And yeah, you're going to get plenty of followers
on your X and I'd like to seewhat the actual campaign looks
like at the end of it.
So if you do get to, yeah, sendus through, send us a link of
the company.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
I'll see it anyway, because I follow you on
Instagram anyway.
But yes, I'll see it all anyway, so I'll look forward to that
anyway.
But yeah, if you have anyquestions or if you'd like us to
discuss anything, how do theydo that, Dave?
Speaker 2 (49:58):
You can contact us on any of our social platforms,
especially Instagram, which Mattkeeps on saying that Philly
Ground Homos podcast, sorry andour email,
phillygrandhomospodcast atgmailcom.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
And don't forget to jump onto iTunes or Spotify and
have a listen to any of ourAI-made songs or AI-generated
AI-generated We've actuallycreated them.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
We have created them, and a lot of people say to us
it's not all AI.
No.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
We do put in a lot of words and stuff.
We put the words, we put inwhat we want it to sound like
exactly and we choose a genreand everything else.
So it's all down to we writethe lyrics, we do all that kind
of stuff for it.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
But we've had fun.
Speaker 1 (50:37):
Well, me more so because I've had more time with
or four out there.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Disco Cinderella is probably our favourite there's
one that we can't publish,because we're hoping that we
might be able to use it forEurovision next year if we get a
chance We'll see.
Speaker 1 (50:53):
We won't because they don't allow any songs with any
components of AI in Eurovisionno it doesn't say that it does.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
It didn't say that it haven't been published or
anything, or haven't been outthere to get popularity, because
it has to be done, uh, prior tobeing selected.
So as long as it's all in-house, okay, um, because we still
created the lyrics.
I mean, at the end of the day,it's just because, again, good
luck getting in touch witheurovision for that.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah, anyway, yeah, good luck, good luck.
It's a good song.
You can endeavor to do that.
That can be your next project,thank you, but yeah, um, but
yeah, we've had fun with that.
So jump onto either itunes orspotify's and look up fully
grown homos you'll find ourtracks there.
Or you can jump on and type inmatt kavanagh and find my songs
as well that I've actuallywritten and sang yeah, and
(51:41):
there's a few songs on therethat I think that you'll be able
to sing on your own, yeah.
I do have my own.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
But what I'm saying is a few songs that we've
created that you'll be able toeasily make into your own this
silly thing called work thatgets in the way.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
Alright, we've been your Fully Grown Homos.
I've been Matt, I've been Dave,as usual, and we'll talk to you
soon.
Love you, bye.
That's a wrap from us.
We've been your Fully GrownHomos and we look forward to
opening your mind, your ears andyour curiosities.
Don't forget to like, commentand subscribe, and share our
podcast with your curiousfriends.
You can contact us onfullygrownhomospodcast at
(52:18):
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