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June 13, 2024 27 mins

In this revisited episode, we go back to a conversation with Vince Kadlubek of legendary immersive art collective Meow Wolf, whose installations give visitors agency to re-engage their imaginations and create their own stories—an experience that can be transformational.

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© 2024 Future of StoryTelling, Corp.


Produced by Future of StoryTelling, Corp.

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New York, NY 10011


Founder and CEO, Charles Melcher

Director, Carolyn Merriman

Assistant Producer, Madison Brown


in collaboration with Charts & Leisure


Founder, Jason Oberholtzer

Producer, Meghal Janardan

Editor, Garrett Crowe 

Mix and Music, Michael Simonelli


With special thanks to Vince Kadlubek, Bonnie Eldon, Michael Bass, David Gray, and Megan Worman.

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