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March 2, 2023 30 mins

Chief Metaverse Officer at Journey and “Godmother of the Metaverse” Cathy Hackl is paying close attention to the metaverse– and if you’re a creator or an entrepreneur, you should be too. On this episode of the FoST Podcast, Cathy shares how she defines the metaverse, what opportunities it’s creating for commerce and creativity, and how she’s working towards a protopian world both physical and virtual.

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© 2023 Future of StoryTelling, Corp.


Produced by Future of StoryTelling, Corp.

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New York, NY 10011


Founder and CEO, Charles Melcher

Director, Carolyn Merriman

Assistant Producer, Madison Brown


in collaboration with Charts & Leisure


Founder, Jason Oberholtzer

Executive Producer, Mike Rugnetta

Editor, Garrett Crowe 

Mix and Music, Michael Simonelli


With special thanks to Cathy Hackl, Meghal Janardan, Bonnie Eldon, Elisabeth March, Michael Bass, and Megan Worman.

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